May 23, 2023 • 37 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Nuggets sweep the Lakers and if the Heat does the same to the Celtics, fans have a long break ahead of the Finals. Brady is excited for the return of the emergency QB rule in the NFL and Melo calls it quits on “In Case You Missed It.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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the Eastern Conference Finals Game four. Did the Miami Heat
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Speaker 3 (01:19):
How y'all feeling?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I sweep? I mean, I mean sweep.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Do you feel sweep? That good one?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
That's a good one?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
How could you do that?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Came out the gate with that? Huh?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
It was a slip. I messed up?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Feeling real sweep? I mean sweet today?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I'm gonna use that listens that.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Thank god it's over, because that's the way that it
was going to go. And you knew that sort of
after Game three? All right, are we really going to
drag this on to?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
The Lakers?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Win Game four? And then we got to wait another
couple of nights to try and find out what the
final score is going to be When everybody knows it's
going to be Denver advancing. The Lakers played valiantly, but
the bottom line is Denver's the the best team in
the NBA. Yeah, okay, Broms out there. You know, some
of the other guys might have if they could help
them out a little bit, Yeah, a little bit. But man,
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Denver's fun to watch, man. They are fantastic and Nikola
Jokic absolutely phenomenal the entire series, your Western Conference Finals, MVP,
and the more I watch them, the more I'm looking
forward whoever comes out of the nbaver comes out of
the Eastern Conference, and a newsflash, it's not going to
be Boston. Whoever that is that comes out, they're gonna
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have their hands while having a deal with Jokic and
Mike Malone and that bench and Jamal Murray and everything
that comes along with the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
That's fine, man.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
But Miami looks like, I mean, bam is establishing himself.
I mean, he's not clearly on on the elite level
and status of the Joker, but I mean bam Is
is really really emerged as as a real go to
guy that that is almost like becoming a household name
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based off of the way that he's playing. So you know,
obviously with what you get with with Jimmy Butler, but
I mean the way Miami has been playing. I think
Miami's gonna end up. They might do the same exact
thing that Denver did. You really get this thing going
pretty pretty quickly. I mean, I want to say, because
I was, like, I've watched the Heat play this year
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and I just don't recall in my mind, like man like, hut,
he can do it? Like they can they can make
it to the final round. Cincinnati, Cincinnati, h Like all right,
you know the Heat. It's like the heat out of
the East. Hmm, like all right, you know, and they
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are clearly playing the best basketball in the East. Out
of the final two teams. They I mean, they basically
in essence have made the Celtics quit.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
They quit.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, So it be interesting to see how that plays out.
But it's looking like it's gonna be Miami and in
Denver that that plays in the finals. It's not it's
not the ideal final in terms of markets and what
people want from it. But what what what I appreciate
about this, what's what's taking place right now is Jimmy
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Butler's getting his flowers for how he's playing. Uh, you
have an emerging star and and and bam out of
the Bayou by you. You got emerging star in that,
and the world is getting to see why there's such
a fuss about Jokis. You know that's ay right, yeah, yeah,
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Jokis j all right. I think now everybody's joined into
the conversation comfortably, Like dude should have got m v
P for a third time, Like he's the best player
in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Be careful, you'll start some controversy.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
You go, whoa LeVar.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
I'm not sure if you know this, but yeah, a
lot of people they're not a fan of him winning
it a third time in a row.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Some people think it's because he's white. I'm just saying,
I get it.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Never mind the fact that he's European. That doesn't count,
you know.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
By the way, I love how like everyone brings up
that point, but no one has an issue with the
fact that, what is it, three of our last.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
The last five MVPs, have we've all gone to European players? Yeah, yes,
Nicole Jo and Joe Embii. Now like none of them
from the US, but like, no one cares about that.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
But it's all the last five. It's the color. It's
not about where the color comes from. It's just the color.
Everybody focus on that, Like, let's not talk.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
About the fact that, like maybe maybe there's young men
being developed better overseas right now in professional basketball than
they are in the United States.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Oh, should that be something we can talk about. No, no, no, no, no,
let's not talk about that. Let's talk about something.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Else on it.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's just so manufactured, man, Like, it's just so like
you can't find anything better.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
So that's the angle we go with.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, that's true. Can I be real though?
Speaker 6 (06:19):
When I was watching the first half, I felt like
the Lakers are getting a bunch of calls, and I'm going,
all right, this is this is like typical NBA.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
That's when my conspiracy theory mind started to go.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
I'm like, it's just it feels like it's gonna be
one of those lopsided like Lakers get one so they
don't get swept, because we all know what the narrative
is right now, Like we're right now talking about you know,
Denver and all that. But the narrative is not Denver.
The narratives the Lakers. It's Lebron It's how much more
is he going to play? He hit it out retirement,
he gets swept? What does that mean, for his legacy,
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like all these things that are going to be talked about,
I personally feel like it's really it's really dumb to
focus on that or like when that argument, you know, happens,
because he was phenomenal last night at his age. What
he did, he carried the team basically wire to wire
and even gave the Lakers a shot. Now, I know
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that wasn't how he performed the entire series, but when
they needed him to the most in that game, he
was everything.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
He needed to be played every minute.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
But he just, you know, in the end, like they
needed more like that that the Nuggets teams could man
Like they are a good team as much it's about Jokic,
it's all the pieces involved too, And that's that's why
I'm actually excited to see Denver take on Miami, because
I think Miami's very similar to in that respect. I mean,
Levard just touched on it. You got Jimmy Butler, that's great,
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you got NICOLEA. Jokic, that's great, And you've got these
really good complimentary pieces where other guys step up and
can have some performances, whether it's at at a bio
or you know, you go and look at Michael Porter. J. J.
Murray is probably the next guy that comes to mind, though, Burdo.
Not sure if you watched them this series, but I
mean there's just there's so there's so many complimentary pieces
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on each I mean, who saw Gabe Vincent shooting the
way he did?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
You're right in the last game like there were lights out.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah. I also like the fact that do you hear
what Burdos? Did you hear him in your air cute? Definitely?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
It's all I heard was Michael Porters.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
You know all tell you what you just said? Murray
content behind the scenes here Tuesday, that's you hit the button.
Oh you don't please, please please, that's no, you don't
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want to hit it.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
No, you know, that's beyond the buttons, like.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Where the white women at.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
No, you need to take a time out. You can't,
you can't, don't throw, don't bring anything up for like
ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
It was It was funny, though. I liked how Denver's
approach last night was all right, so we've got we've
got them down three nothing. We could easily sort of
cruise get this back to Denver and try and close
the mountain five And they said, no, we're going to
play seven guys and we're going for it. And you know,
Lebron who mentioned played every single minute of that game.
Jokic only missed three minutes of that game. They clearly
(09:21):
identified let's wrap this up, let's get this over with.
And Brady and I were talking yesterday LeVar about the
fact that the NBA has already said, no matter what,
the finals are starting on June first, sweet cool. So Miami,
you know, closes the coffin on the Boston Celtics tonight,
then we got to wait around eight days for the
NBA Finals to get here. Come on, it's a bit much.
(09:41):
Speed this thing up and let's get.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
It over with.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
It's a lot then you would like for them to
keep I would like for them to keep the rhythm
and the momentum of the schedule. I mean, right now,
I like how it's it's been flowing right, like every
day there's another game sports, right, I just sports.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
You know, I know you your kids are are are
doing their things. Yeah, they're doing their things, So, you know,
I like the flow of it. I think when you
get that break in time, it kind of lets the
momentum die down. It's like that second week between Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, we were there.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
We were hoping somebody got busted for like anything, and
then and then it turned out that it was Michael Irvan.
And we still don't have any clarity on want yeah
about to say what happened with Michael erv no idea, huh,
have no idea what happened?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
By the way, I was with Don Martin yesterday, shouts
out to our guy Don Martin, and I just got
to make sure I put this out there before we
go any further in the show, while it's on top
of my mind. Thank you guys out there who listened
to us and support our show. We were talking yesterday
and the success of our show, the growth of our
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show has been phenomenal and tremendous. And I know I'm
probably speaking for both of us, in all three of
us when when we when I say this, but I
mean it's it is so cool to have a visual
measurement of how how how much work you put in
and what you want to put out there as a
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product to to the people that are listening to us.
So before I go any further, I just wanted to
make sure I let you guys know why it's like
top of mind, Like it's super cool that you guys
support our show, support us the way that you do.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Pretty cool, man, Yeah, appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
While we're sitting here talking about you know, speeches and stuff,
you know, in terms of winning and you know, being
in sports and all that stuff. Like I think that's
pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Like where we're at as people don't know. Var is
a cuddler. He really know.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I'm a spooner like you're.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
But I bet you're a big spool and you could
be a little spoon you know, I can. The big
guy needs to be spooned too.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
That's very true. No, that's very true. I have been spilled.
In fact, you guys should have saw the way I
slept last night. It's one of the coolest ways of
going to sleep ever.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Yeah, And didn't even know that I fell asleep that way,
but I woke up. And the cool thing about waking
up so early for your show is that when you
wake up and your arm is dead like for about
five six, seven minutes, you know, then it's like you know,
but you wake up and it was like, wow, what
an amazing position to fall asleep in, and you know what,
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like my arm is dead forever, but it'll come back
hopefully one day.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And it was worth it.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
What was the position like, it's kind of it's like
almost like I can't say it on air, but okay,
all right, yeah, okay, I mean because it could go
wrong the way if I try to explain.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
It, it could go wrong.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, welcome to the show. Yeah, because I would
have to give details for it to make sense. And
then if I gave the details, then let's.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Start this way.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Were you on your stomach, your back or your side?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
I was kind of I was on my right arm.
So put it to you like this, I like, I
I cuddled her leg. I cuddled her leg like I
went to sleep like literally like you know how you
have like the body pillows. Yeah, well that was her
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leg and it's was she on your arm or were
you on your arm? She was on my arm because
I was holding her leg like a pillow. You're gonna
lose an arm. That's a hell of a way to go.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
It was out of there.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
It's it's coming back now. The feeling is coming back.
But it was sure enough. It was definitely worth it.
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
You can only imagine where I was laying, where my
head was.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Okay, that's and that's where the story could have got
bad going with the details of it. I mean, alright, what, No,
are not too tall for that? No, I was just
she's long, my guy.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, I was thinking about any repercussions.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Like yeah, yeah, but you know what I you know,
if it happened, I was so dead to the world
and sleep. I didn't even realize I fell asleep in
like in that space like we were watching Forensic Fouls.
I mean, you do do a show from six to
nine Eastern times, yeah, and I well, I had just
traveled back to you know, you're so funny. You're so
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funny what you made It's three am here though, I know, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
It's six to nine East Coast. Yeah, yeah, Monday through Friday.
You do that show.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Yeah, that is true anyway. Yeah, I enjoyed that. That's
spooning days five day. That's right, y'all are funny as
f man.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I always knew you were never afraid to get down
and dirty.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I'm just I'm just letting you know. Yeah, that's that's that.
That was my spoon position last night of it. You know,
I was Spoon City is a place spoon you know,
check the oil. Yeah, oh no, oh no, yeah, okay,
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all right, well, time break.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It's two pros.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Jonas would sayage and that'll wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But to Laar's point for making us a part of
your morning, whenever you do as often as you do
on the podcast, whatever we do, appreciate it absolutely. Yeah,
that means a lot to us. And uh, there's a
lot of options out there, and we like the fact
that you're telling us none of them are as good
as ours.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
So there's that.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
There's that fun stuff. It is two Pros and a
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and we'll tell you what that is. That's next.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
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A Day Loose remies Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
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Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here, come it up in We'll call it twenty
minutes from now from the tiraq dot Com studios. Somebody
wants to bring back an iconic moment in the world
of sports, so we'll tell you what that is again
twenty minutes from now here on FSR. But speaking of
bringing something back, how about this the old emergency third
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quarterback rule. Everybody remembers that little diddy. Apparently the NFL,
upon seeing what happened in the NFC Championship game, the
Niners and the Philadelphia Eagles have decided, you know what,
now that we think about it, it kind of sucks
that a team had to roll out Christian McCaffrey or
whoever else it was to try and play quarterback because
they were up against it. When it came to Brian
(17:12):
Mitchell position. Yeah, Brian Mitchell was that the I think
they called that? Was it the body bag Game?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I think it was.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, the Eagles Washington, uh, formally the Washington Washington. Yeah,
the Washington that's ours that team. I can't say, you can't.
But they called it the body bag game because they
knocked out Philly, knocked out all their starting quarterbacks and
Brian Mitchell was playing quarterback who.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Played quarterback in college. But still you had to put
a guy that doesn't it wasn't practicing as a quarterback
at the position.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
By the way, the body bag gig.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Lell me, how about that? Was that Reggie White?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Those guyslick.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, they seth they smashed them.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
But the NFL is the owner approved the return of
the emergency third quarterback, Ruld. It's going to allow teams
to designate an emergency quarterback on game day without accounting
as one of their fifty three active players. It's applicable
of the two other quarterbacks. Yeah, I can't continue.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Again, I'll explain it. I saw in your notes how
you kind of defined it. It's it makes it a
little more confusing that way.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So okay, this is all it is.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Sorry, I'm I'm just trying to help you out.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Yeah, no, I appreciate that they address forty six guys
on NFL game days, you're now going to have see
a forty seventh player. That player is going to be
the third string quarterback. However, he cannot enter the game
all right, So how it typically works is you must
have both your first and second string quarterbacks. They've got
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to be injured and they can they can't be able
to go in and play. And when that first string
quarterback typically goes out with an injury, that's when you're
gonna see the third string guy activated. If they if
they realize that the the the first string quarterback can't
go back in, then at that point they'll activate the
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third string quarterback. They usually don't wait until the second
string quarterback gets injured because at that point it would
take up a long time in the process. So typically
how it works, they go in they literally sign this
this sheet, this form, you deactivate one player, activate the other,
you submit it, and that's how it works forward.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
So it's a little bit of.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
A misnomer because again not to like coylet Jonas, but
like the way you got to play it out is well,
the first and second needs to be.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Then it's like, well it doesn't need to be.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
They'll activate the third string quarterback once they realize that
the first string can't go back in and.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Play at that point, then he would be activated.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
But the general point is this, it's awesome for the
league because you now don't find yourself in a scenario
like we saw in a big game last year with
Brock Purty going in there and not being able to
do anything other than really hand the football off. And
more so than that, it's amazing, Like, what was so
short sighted about the rule going away is is the
development of the quarterback position is paramount to any other
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position on the field. They're the faces of your franchise.
And that's what this is about development in the sense
of even if you've got a first string or excuse me,
a first overall pick that you know is going to
be the guy, it still sometimes helps to be able
to have a capable two, but a third string guy
who is really just there as a veteran presence to
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help him out. Now like Carolina, for example, kind of
has that in Josh McCowan, where if he probably still
wanted to play like he'd be in that third string
quarterback spot, like that'd be his role in his job.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
He's there to get you out of a game and.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
To execute, but he's largely there to make sure he's
helping that younger quarterback ahead of him understand how to
break down film, prepare all those sorts of things and
kind of guiding him along.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
It also works for guys who are maybe a little
more developmental.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
You don't have to activate them or worry about put
them in a backup spot if they're not ready yet,
and so it gives that guy more of a chance
to not just practice during the week, but then travel
with the teams too, because you could say, well, for
a practice squad player, those guys might be able to
you know all that. Well, usually those guys don't travel
them on the weekends, you know, once they go off
to whatever game somewhere else, so you don't get to
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see the additional game planning and everything else that goes
along with it. So to me, it's a rule that
never should have went away. I'd love to hear an
explanation as to why it did outside of trying to
save some money. And it killed off a third of
the quarterback position in the league, because once they got
rid of that rule, most teams of the thirty two
teams only kept two and then they would have a
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practice squad quarterback that you know, may or may not
at some point factor in or could be moved up
to the active roster. Now you're going to you should
see every team keep three and potentially maybe even a
fourth that they stash on their practice squad just to
help out with development everything else too, and maybe just
to have an extra arm out there. So to me,
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it's a huge win for quarterbacks in the NFL, Young old,
all the above. It should help everyone out.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I mean, I like the way the last part of
that because I love development. I mean, it's something that
is so understated. It's not ads prioritized. I mean, people
talk about it, but they don't really live it. It's
not really a priority, a necessity like development. Development Like
people want things ready made. You know, it's crazy. They
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want kids in high school these days ready made. If
you go to a school like a Modern Day or
a Bosco, they want you ready made. When you go
to a college, a major college Power fives, they want
you ready made. So when you get to the league,
they want you ready made. And kind of development is
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a word that's used, but it's very loosely used because
it's not really executed. And so to hear that there's
the possibility that because of this type of rule and
it creating that extra space for that position, you'd have
to say, potentially, the impact on the game as a
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whole could end up being astronomically high. I mean, it
could really impact the way the NFL, what direction it
goes in in terms of the quality of play, just
because you have the ability to develop players without them
having the pressure of having to play, like those guys
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are sitting at home on couches or or you know,
trying to play in different leagues, whatever it may be.
And now they're going to have the opportunity to get
that development time. You know, you look at some of
the best I'll give you one of the best quick
examples off the top of my head is James Harrison.
You know how many times that guy was cut and
let go, went overseas, came back, did back up special teams.
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This that that guy's gonna be a first ballot Hall
of Famer, and so he had an opportunity to develop
and to to grow within the game. And then by
the time he got an opportunity to start, he knew
exactly everything that he needed to do to be able
to have success within the game. You take that and
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you do that with a quarterback, we'll start hearing about
quarterback names that you might have forgot about when you
heard them coming out from college. You hear about them
four or five years later, six years later, and now
they've turned into a perennial Pro Bowl caliber player, performer,
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all because they had the opportunity to develop and have
that time to understand what the game represents on and
off the field, within the meeting rooms, and how your
teammates work, all those different things. At the pro level,
I think it's a great I think it's great to
be able to have four. Like if you're hiding that
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fourth on your practice squad, which you never know what's
going to happen with that, that's probably a very expendable player.
But that third and fourth guy, if these franchises are
approaching this with the right mindset, that's that to me,
that's the guy that's going to replace your franchise guy
if anything were to happen, potentially moving far into the future,
(25:16):
because you've developed that person, and they know what you
you know, they know what you need, they know what
you want as a part of that team, in particular.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Because at least you give you the option. Like the
thing of like this just doesn't make sense to me.
Is they tell you the quarterback position is the most
important position in the NFL. Yeah, but you can only
do it on our terms. You know, listener, we realize
if you're in a tough spot, sorry, you got to
roll out somebody who may have played quarterback in high
school to try and bail you out of this situation.
At least now you've got the option and the opportunity.
(25:48):
I'm just wanting. Has there been any discussion outside of
you mentioned the money issue. I'm trying to save money, Brady.
Has there been any talk about why really the move
was made, Like what was it really about, Like the
roster number active players, et cetera, et cetera. What was
it about when it came to the quarterback position.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Well, again, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
All I can tell you is this is if there
was a a if you're looking at a third string
player on a roster, what player is gonna cost.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Them the most money at that position?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Quarterback?
Speaker 4 (26:20):
A quarterback, and so you know, maybe you get some
guys to sign up for league minimum.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
But that's the only thing that I can think that
comes to mind is you're probably gonna save yourself at
least half a million, a million bucks.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Something like that, maybe more. Who knows.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I just I have no idea because you oftentimes too
like you'll get a guy like let's say you have
three guys on the active roster, that fourth string guy
and he'll get some working, but if he's in the
practice squad, he can go throw for different drills that
you have.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
You know, some of the limitations that you have as
a coach is because.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
You'd like to have a guy whos a quarterback who's
throwing football, even on the defensive side of the ball, Like, hey,
we get a guy to come down here and throw
something for us, like work on what work on, whatever
period it is.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
You can't always go ones on ones.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
A lot of times you have the platoon during the
course of a season, and to be able to have
just a guy to go down and help out an
extra arm, that's also something that's kind of like pivotal
in all of it.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
So I don't know that the justification for it. I
think it was awful. At the time.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
It literally killed off a third of the quarterbacks in
the league because everyone transitioned like that, like I remember,
because it changed over the course of my career, Like
I remember my rookie year.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
It happening. First game, very very first game of my career,
it ended up happening, that's right.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
And I was sitting there, going, this is unbelievable. And
I watched my quarterback coach, Rip Sheheer. He went over,
he got the he's got his you know, his clipboard thing.
He had a little sheet on and all this stuff
deactivated him. Derek Anderson was in. I was next up,
and I thought to myself, Wow, that was fast. I mean,
I was still like I can distinctly remember the first
(28:03):
game in college, first game in the NFL, because until
you see it from the perspective of like having your
your helmet on and looking out through it and you're
in the uniform and it's it's real, you really don't
know how like what that looks like. I remember in college,
like just running out through the tunnel and seeing that
the crowd full and being in that position and thing
and this is so cool and you know, people yelling
(28:25):
at me.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Like, hey, get the personnel and get the personnel, because
I was supposed to be signaling personnel and i'd signal in,
but then I'd like go back right.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Well, I mean it was just like it was first
the first time you ever saw it. You're just like
so enamored with it. It's just different when you're a recruit.
It's different. Then you get in the NFL. I remember
like just even going through warm ups and guys would
be like, you know, they got the Jumbo trying up
there showing players stretching and stuff before and guys like
wrapping into the camera and stuff, and I was like, man, this.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Is really different.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Like no one's like doesn't seem to be focused right
now on the game, Like they're over like signing autographs,
talk of people tapping.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
It up like just chill on the sidelines.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
And then you get a little older and you're like, yeah,
these guys have been doing it for a while, Like
they don't you know, they've got their routine like that,
they're they're comfortable, they're good at it. But I just
remember like even that and like the fans and everything
else for an opening game and how different it was.
But you kind of obviously snap out of it in
that moment because it's a very sobering like okay, like
now now I have to get down to business. But
(29:24):
it's but that was the first time I remember at
the beginning of my career thinking wow, like you could
be a third string quarterback starting a game and you
legitimately could get thrust that into this thing, so you
always have to stay ready. By the end of my career,
was not that most teams only kept two and it
was it was a tough conversation. Like I remember going
out to Seattle Seahawks with Pete Carroll and Tavars Jackson
(29:46):
God rest his soul and myself had had a good preseason,
both of us, and they called me the end of
you know, it was the first time ever got cut
after being in the league seven years, and they called and.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Say, hey, you got a great camp.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
You know you're gonna land somewhere else, but like we're
only going to too right now, and that's just kind
of the way a lot of teams are doing it.
And I was like, damn, Like that was not like
my intent going into it, Like I thought I was
going to be a backup at it, you know, and
obviously Russell was going to start that year. But and
then that hit me and I was like, oh okay,
Like I I didn't think I was gonna be off
the team, especially with you know, all the equity I'd
(30:18):
build up there. So it's just I don't know why
it changed.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It was.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I think it was bad in a lot of ways
for the league.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
And with the cutdown off season, you need another quarterback
in there to help with development. So that's why I
keep going back to it's gonna be awesome for a
lot of players.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
In the league.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, Like it does bring up the point though, you
know now that all these jobs have opened back up
for quarterbacks. You know, like if there are certain quarterbacks
that maybe are are outside looking in and now all
of a sudden, the window opens up and they've got
a bunch of connections in the NFL. You know, it
makes you wonder whose phone's going to ring, you know,
LeVar makes you wonder who's going to get a desper count,
who's going to get a call from uh you might
(30:53):
be the first teams in the NFL quarterback as a
beautiful thing. Yeah, you know, it just makes you wonder
if you know, be somebody, somebody in South Florida is
gonna be.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Getting a call Tom Brady, who Florida?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
You know, somebody who's well connected, knows.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
What people in the league, you know, like Brady Quinn.
That's a great point, LeVar. I mean that would be
a great pool, right, all of.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
A sudden, Mike McDaniel like, what a conversation between Mike
McDaniel phoning out to Brady Quinn, sound like, all right,
give me a ring, Give me a ring and I'll answer.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
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What's up?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Hello Brady? Good morning. So this is like a cool
little thing that's going on. Are I just wanted to
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Speaker 4 (31:52):
Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (32:26):
Hold on a second, hey, coach, are you vaping? Maybe
just a little bit, Brady, maybe just a little bit?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
And uh is that?
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Hold on coaching talk? Why did you out just the
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Speaker 4 (32:52):
Hold on pretty.
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To hear me not to have mentioned banana boats. One year,
two hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I mean it's not bad. Yeah, you know, why why not?
Uh listen, he had a great career.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Just the problem is, I think people are going to
look at Carmelo and go, yeah, well, you never want
a championship.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
The problem is is they're always going to hold him
to a standard next to Lebron because they.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Came into the same draft. So and Dwayne Wade and
d Wade. Yeah, there's a couple others in that track
lay too, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
He had one of the I guess for a one
and done arguably the greatest season bright you can put
together at the college level.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Oh absolutely, at the college level.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
He was phenomenal NBA level, one of the better scores
that I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Super prolific, yep. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
And it's just crazy because he won't be judged off
that maybe until he gets a little bit further away
from the game, just because of the brilliance of Lebron
And like you said, Dwayne Wade, I mean, they had brilliant.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Careers because there was a time he was the best
scorer in the NBA where if you gave him the ball,
he was scoring scoring, you couldn't stop him. And I
think people kind of lose sight of that. They just
focus on, you know, the comps. As we've mentioned, what
else we got lead.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Some NFL news.
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Speaker 3 (37:08):
How about that? Huh?
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Green Bay gats so that wasn't the one that was
up for debate.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
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between La Miami. There's a few places bidding on that
that hasn't been acided.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Little La versus Miami. There little battle. Just put it
in Miami, like just LA can't handle this stuff, all right,
the traffic, the road closures, it's terroristic enough.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
If people care out there, you know, do they care?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Do you think people are here to like football? What
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That's Chargers fans?
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Speaker 3 (01:19):
How y'all feeling?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I sweep? I mean, I mean sweep.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Do you feel sweep? That good one?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
That's a good one?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
How could you do that?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Came out the gate with that? Huh?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
It was a slip. I messed up?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Feeling real sweep? I mean sweet today?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I'm gonna use that listens that.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Thank god it's over, because that's the way that it
was going to go. And you knew that sort of
after Game three? All right, are we really going to
drag this on to?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
The Lakers?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Win Game four? And then we got to wait another
couple of nights to try and find out what the
final score is going to be When everybody knows it's
going to be Denver advancing. The Lakers played valiantly, but
the bottom line is Denver's the the best team in
the NBA. Yeah, okay, Broms out there. You know, some
of the other guys might have if they could help
them out a little bit, Yeah, a little bit. But man,
(02:11):
Denver's fun to watch, man. They are fantastic and Nikola
Jokic absolutely phenomenal the entire series, your Western Conference Finals, MVP,
and the more I watch them, the more I'm looking
forward whoever comes out of the nbaver comes out of
the Eastern Conference, and a newsflash, it's not going to
be Boston. Whoever that is that comes out, they're gonna
(02:32):
have their hands while having a deal with Jokic and
Mike Malone and that bench and Jamal Murray and everything
that comes along with the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
That's fine, man.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
But Miami looks like, I mean, bam is establishing himself.
I mean, he's not clearly on on the elite level
and status of the Joker, but I mean bam Is
is really really emerged as as a real go to
guy that that is almost like becoming a household name
(03:03):
based off of the way that he's playing. So you know,
obviously with what you get with with Jimmy Butler, but
I mean the way Miami has been playing. I think
Miami's gonna end up. They might do the same exact
thing that Denver did. You really get this thing going
pretty pretty quickly. I mean, I want to say, because
I was, like, I've watched the Heat play this year
(03:25):
and I just don't recall in my mind, like man like, hut,
he can do it? Like they can they can make
it to the final round. Cincinnati, Cincinnati, h Like all right,
you know the Heat. It's like the heat out of
the East. Hmm, like all right, you know, and they
(03:49):
are clearly playing the best basketball in the East. Out
of the final two teams. They I mean, they basically
in essence have made the Celtics quit.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
They quit.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, So it be interesting to see how that plays out.
But it's looking like it's gonna be Miami and in
Denver that that plays in the finals. It's not it's
not the ideal final in terms of markets and what
people want from it. But what what what I appreciate
about this, what's what's taking place right now is Jimmy
(04:22):
Butler's getting his flowers for how he's playing. Uh, you
have an emerging star and and and bam out of
the Bayou by you. You got emerging star in that,
and the world is getting to see why there's such
a fuss about Jokis. You know that's ay right, yeah, yeah,
(04:45):
Jokis j all right. I think now everybody's joined into
the conversation comfortably, Like dude should have got m v
P for a third time, Like he's the best player
in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Be careful, you'll start some controversy.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
You go, whoa LeVar.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
I'm not sure if you know this, but yeah, a
lot of people they're not a fan of him winning
it a third time in a row.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Some people think it's because he's white. I'm just saying,
I get it.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Never mind the fact that he's European. That doesn't count,
you know.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
By the way, I love how like everyone brings up
that point, but no one has an issue with the
fact that, what is it, three of our last.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
The last five MVPs, have we've all gone to European players? Yeah, yes,
Nicole Jo and Joe Embii. Now like none of them
from the US, but like, no one cares about that.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
But it's all the last five. It's the color. It's
not about where the color comes from. It's just the color.
Everybody focus on that, Like, let's not talk.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
About the fact that, like maybe maybe there's young men
being developed better overseas right now in professional basketball than
they are in the United States.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Oh, should that be something we can talk about. No, no, no, no, no,
let's not talk about that. Let's talk about something.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Else on it.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's just so manufactured, man, Like, it's just so like
you can't find anything better.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
So that's the angle we go with.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, that's true. Can I be real though?
Speaker 6 (06:19):
When I was watching the first half, I felt like
the Lakers are getting a bunch of calls, and I'm going,
all right, this is this is like typical NBA.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
That's when my conspiracy theory mind started to go.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
I'm like, it's just it feels like it's gonna be
one of those lopsided like Lakers get one so they
don't get swept, because we all know what the narrative
is right now, Like we're right now talking about you know,
Denver and all that. But the narrative is not Denver.
The narratives the Lakers. It's Lebron It's how much more
is he going to play? He hit it out retirement,
he gets swept? What does that mean, for his legacy,
(06:54):
like all these things that are going to be talked about,
I personally feel like it's really it's really dumb to
focus on that or like when that argument, you know, happens,
because he was phenomenal last night at his age. What
he did, he carried the team basically wire to wire
and even gave the Lakers a shot. Now, I know
(07:16):
that wasn't how he performed the entire series, but when
they needed him to the most in that game, he
was everything.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
He needed to be played every minute.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
But he just, you know, in the end, like they
needed more like that that the Nuggets teams could man
Like they are a good team as much it's about Jokic,
it's all the pieces involved too, And that's that's why
I'm actually excited to see Denver take on Miami, because
I think Miami's very similar to in that respect. I mean,
Levard just touched on it. You got Jimmy Butler, that's great,
(07:47):
you got NICOLEA. Jokic, that's great, And you've got these
really good complimentary pieces where other guys step up and
can have some performances, whether it's at at a bio
or you know, you go and look at Michael Porter. J. J.
Murray is probably the next guy that comes to mind, though, Burdo.
Not sure if you watched them this series, but I
mean there's just there's so there's so many complimentary pieces
(08:08):
on each I mean, who saw Gabe Vincent shooting the
way he did?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
You're right in the last game like there were lights out.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah. I also like the fact that do you hear
what Burdos? Did you hear him in your air cute? Definitely?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
It's all I heard was Michael Porters.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
You know all tell you what you just said? Murray
content behind the scenes here Tuesday, that's you hit the button.
Oh you don't please, please please, that's no, you don't
(08:43):
want to hit it.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
No, you know, that's beyond the buttons, like.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Where the white women at.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
No, you need to take a time out. You can't,
you can't, don't throw, don't bring anything up for like
ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
It was It was funny, though. I liked how Denver's
approach last night was all right, so we've got we've
got them down three nothing. We could easily sort of
cruise get this back to Denver and try and close
the mountain five And they said, no, we're going to
play seven guys and we're going for it. And you know,
Lebron who mentioned played every single minute of that game.
Jokic only missed three minutes of that game. They clearly
(09:21):
identified let's wrap this up, let's get this over with.
And Brady and I were talking yesterday LeVar about the
fact that the NBA has already said, no matter what,
the finals are starting on June first, sweet cool. So Miami,
you know, closes the coffin on the Boston Celtics tonight,
then we got to wait around eight days for the
NBA Finals to get here. Come on, it's a bit much.
(09:41):
Speed this thing up and let's get.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
It over with.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
It's a lot then you would like for them to
keep I would like for them to keep the rhythm
and the momentum of the schedule. I mean, right now,
I like how it's it's been flowing right, like every
day there's another game sports, right, I just sports.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
You know, I know you your kids are are are
doing their things. Yeah, they're doing their things, So, you know,
I like the flow of it. I think when you
get that break in time, it kind of lets the
momentum die down. It's like that second week between Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, we were there.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
We were hoping somebody got busted for like anything, and
then and then it turned out that it was Michael Irvan.
And we still don't have any clarity on want yeah
about to say what happened with Michael erv no idea, huh,
have no idea what happened?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
By the way, I was with Don Martin yesterday, shouts
out to our guy Don Martin, and I just got
to make sure I put this out there before we
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measurement of how how how much work you put in
and what you want to put out there as a
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product to to the people that are listening to us.
So before I go any further, I just wanted to
make sure I let you guys know why it's like
top of mind, Like it's super cool that you guys
support our show, support us the way that you do.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Pretty cool, man, Yeah, appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
While we're sitting here talking about you know, speeches and stuff,
you know, in terms of winning and you know, being
in sports and all that stuff. Like I think that's
pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Like where we're at as people don't know. Var is
a cuddler. He really know.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I'm a spooner like you're.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
But I bet you're a big spool and you could
be a little spoon you know, I can. The big
guy needs to be spooned too.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
That's very true. No, that's very true. I have been spilled.
In fact, you guys should have saw the way I
slept last night. It's one of the coolest ways of
going to sleep ever.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Yeah, And didn't even know that I fell asleep that way,
but I woke up. And the cool thing about waking
up so early for your show is that when you
wake up and your arm is dead like for about
five six, seven minutes, you know, then it's like you know,
but you wake up and it was like, wow, what
an amazing position to fall asleep in, and you know what,
(12:22):
like my arm is dead forever, but it'll come back
hopefully one day.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And it was worth it.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
What was the position like, it's kind of it's like
almost like I can't say it on air, but okay,
all right, yeah, okay, I mean because it could go
wrong the way if I try to explain.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
It, it could go wrong.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, welcome to the show. Yeah, because I would
have to give details for it to make sense. And
then if I gave the details, then let's.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Start this way.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Were you on your stomach, your back or your side?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
I was kind of I was on my right arm.
So put it to you like this, I like, I
I cuddled her leg. I cuddled her leg like I
went to sleep like literally like you know how you
have like the body pillows. Yeah, well that was her
(13:17):
leg and it's was she on your arm or were
you on your arm? She was on my arm because
I was holding her leg like a pillow. You're gonna
lose an arm. That's a hell of a way to go.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
It was out of there.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
It's it's coming back now. The feeling is coming back.
But it was sure enough. It was definitely worth it.
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
You can only imagine where I was laying, where my
head was.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Okay, that's and that's where the story could have got
bad going with the details of it. I mean, alright, what, No,
are not too tall for that? No, I was just
she's long, my guy.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, I was thinking about any repercussions.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Like yeah, yeah, but you know what I you know,
if it happened, I was so dead to the world
and sleep. I didn't even realize I fell asleep in
like in that space like we were watching Forensic Fouls.
I mean, you do do a show from six to
nine Eastern times, yeah, and I well, I had just
traveled back to you know, you're so funny. You're so
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funny what you made It's three am here though, I know, yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
It's six to nine East Coast. Yeah, yeah, Monday through Friday.
You do that show.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Yeah, that is true anyway. Yeah, I enjoyed that. That's
spooning days five day. That's right, y'all are funny as
f man.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I always knew you were never afraid to get down
and dirty.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I'm just I'm just letting you know. Yeah, that's that's that.
That was my spoon position last night of it. You know,
I was Spoon City is a place spoon you know,
check the oil. Yeah, oh no, oh no, yeah, okay,
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all right, well, time break.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It's two pros.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Jonas would sayage and that'll wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But to Laar's point for making us a part of
your morning, whenever you do as often as you do
on the podcast, whatever we do, appreciate it absolutely. Yeah,
that means a lot to us. And uh, there's a
lot of options out there, and we like the fact
that you're telling us none of them are as good
as ours.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
So there's that.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
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wants to bring back an iconic moment in the world
of sports, so we'll tell you what that is again
twenty minutes from now here on FSR. But speaking of
bringing something back, how about this the old emergency third
(16:52):
quarterback rule. Everybody remembers that little diddy. Apparently the NFL,
upon seeing what happened in the NFC Championship game, the
Niners and the Philadelphia Eagles have decided, you know what,
now that we think about it, it kind of sucks
that a team had to roll out Christian McCaffrey or
whoever else it was to try and play quarterback because
they were up against it. When it came to Brian
(17:12):
Mitchell position. Yeah, Brian Mitchell was that the I think
they called that? Was it the body bag Game?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I think it was.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, the Eagles Washington, uh, formally the Washington Washington. Yeah,
the Washington that's ours that team. I can't say, you can't.
But they called it the body bag game because they
knocked out Philly, knocked out all their starting quarterbacks and
Brian Mitchell was playing quarterback who.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Played quarterback in college. But still you had to put
a guy that doesn't it wasn't practicing as a quarterback
at the position.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
By the way, the body bag gig.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Lell me, how about that? Was that Reggie White?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Those guyslick.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, they seth they smashed them.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
But the NFL is the owner approved the return of
the emergency third quarterback, Ruld. It's going to allow teams
to designate an emergency quarterback on game day without accounting
as one of their fifty three active players. It's applicable
of the two other quarterbacks. Yeah, I can't continue.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Again, I'll explain it. I saw in your notes how
you kind of defined it. It's it makes it a
little more confusing that way.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So okay, this is all it is.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Sorry, I'm I'm just trying to help you out.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Yeah, no, I appreciate that they address forty six guys
on NFL game days, you're now going to have see
a forty seventh player. That player is going to be
the third string quarterback. However, he cannot enter the game
all right, So how it typically works is you must
have both your first and second string quarterbacks. They've got
(18:43):
to be injured and they can they can't be able
to go in and play. And when that first string
quarterback typically goes out with an injury, that's when you're
gonna see the third string guy activated. If they if
they realize that the the the first string quarterback can't
go back in, then at that point they'll activate the
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third string quarterback. They usually don't wait until the second
string quarterback gets injured because at that point it would
take up a long time in the process. So typically
how it works, they go in they literally sign this
this sheet, this form, you deactivate one player, activate the other,
you submit it, and that's how it works forward.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
So it's a little bit of.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
A misnomer because again not to like coylet Jonas, but
like the way you got to play it out is well,
the first and second needs to be.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Then it's like, well it doesn't need to be.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
They'll activate the third string quarterback once they realize that
the first string can't go back in and.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Play at that point, then he would be activated.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
But the general point is this, it's awesome for the
league because you now don't find yourself in a scenario
like we saw in a big game last year with
Brock Purty going in there and not being able to
do anything other than really hand the football off. And
more so than that, it's amazing, Like, what was so
short sighted about the rule going away is is the
development of the quarterback position is paramount to any other
(20:03):
position on the field. They're the faces of your franchise.
And that's what this is about development in the sense
of even if you've got a first string or excuse me,
a first overall pick that you know is going to
be the guy, it still sometimes helps to be able
to have a capable two, but a third string guy
who is really just there as a veteran presence to
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help him out. Now like Carolina, for example, kind of
has that in Josh McCowan, where if he probably still
wanted to play like he'd be in that third string
quarterback spot, like that'd be his role in his job.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
He's there to get you out of a game and.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
To execute, but he's largely there to make sure he's
helping that younger quarterback ahead of him understand how to
break down film, prepare all those sorts of things and
kind of guiding him along.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
It also works for guys who are maybe a little
more developmental.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
You don't have to activate them or worry about put
them in a backup spot if they're not ready yet,
and so it gives that guy more of a chance
to not just practice during the week, but then travel
with the teams too, because you could say, well, for
a practice squad player, those guys might be able to
you know all that. Well, usually those guys don't travel
them on the weekends, you know, once they go off
to whatever game somewhere else, so you don't get to
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see the additional game planning and everything else that goes
along with it. So to me, it's a rule that
never should have went away. I'd love to hear an
explanation as to why it did outside of trying to
save some money. And it killed off a third of
the quarterback position in the league, because once they got
rid of that rule, most teams of the thirty two
teams only kept two and then they would have a
(21:32):
practice squad quarterback that you know, may or may not
at some point factor in or could be moved up
to the active roster. Now you're going to you should
see every team keep three and potentially maybe even a
fourth that they stash on their practice squad just to
help out with development everything else too, and maybe just
to have an extra arm out there. So to me,
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it's a huge win for quarterbacks in the NFL, Young old,
all the above. It should help everyone out.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I mean, I like the way the last part of
that because I love development. I mean, it's something that
is so understated. It's not ads prioritized. I mean, people
talk about it, but they don't really live it. It's
not really a priority, a necessity like development. Development Like
people want things ready made. You know, it's crazy. They
(22:21):
want kids in high school these days ready made. If
you go to a school like a Modern Day or
a Bosco, they want you ready made. When you go
to a college, a major college Power fives, they want
you ready made. So when you get to the league,
they want you ready made. And kind of development is
(22:43):
a word that's used, but it's very loosely used because
it's not really executed. And so to hear that there's
the possibility that because of this type of rule and
it creating that extra space for that position, you'd have
to say, potentially, the impact on the game as a
(23:03):
whole could end up being astronomically high. I mean, it
could really impact the way the NFL, what direction it
goes in in terms of the quality of play, just
because you have the ability to develop players without them
having the pressure of having to play, like those guys
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are sitting at home on couches or or you know,
trying to play in different leagues, whatever it may be.
And now they're going to have the opportunity to get
that development time. You know, you look at some of
the best I'll give you one of the best quick
examples off the top of my head is James Harrison.
You know how many times that guy was cut and
let go, went overseas, came back, did back up special teams.
(23:50):
This that that guy's gonna be a first ballot Hall
of Famer, and so he had an opportunity to develop
and to to grow within the game. And then by
the time he got an opportunity to start, he knew
exactly everything that he needed to do to be able
to have success within the game. You take that and
(24:11):
you do that with a quarterback, we'll start hearing about
quarterback names that you might have forgot about when you
heard them coming out from college. You hear about them
four or five years later, six years later, and now
they've turned into a perennial Pro Bowl caliber player, performer,
(24:32):
all because they had the opportunity to develop and have
that time to understand what the game represents on and
off the field, within the meeting rooms, and how your
teammates work, all those different things. At the pro level,
I think it's a great I think it's great to
be able to have four. Like if you're hiding that
(24:53):
fourth on your practice squad, which you never know what's
going to happen with that, that's probably a very expendable player.
But that third and fourth guy, if these franchises are
approaching this with the right mindset, that's that to me,
that's the guy that's going to replace your franchise guy
if anything were to happen, potentially moving far into the future,
(25:16):
because you've developed that person, and they know what you
you know, they know what you need, they know what
you want as a part of that team, in particular.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Because at least you give you the option. Like the
thing of like this just doesn't make sense to me.
Is they tell you the quarterback position is the most
important position in the NFL. Yeah, but you can only
do it on our terms. You know, listener, we realize
if you're in a tough spot, sorry, you got to
roll out somebody who may have played quarterback in high
school to try and bail you out of this situation.
At least now you've got the option and the opportunity.
(25:48):
I'm just wanting. Has there been any discussion outside of
you mentioned the money issue. I'm trying to save money, Brady.
Has there been any talk about why really the move
was made, Like what was it really about, Like the
roster number active players, et cetera, et cetera. What was
it about when it came to the quarterback position.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Well, again, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
All I can tell you is this is if there
was a a if you're looking at a third string
player on a roster, what player is gonna cost.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Them the most money at that position?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Quarterback?
Speaker 4 (26:20):
A quarterback, and so you know, maybe you get some
guys to sign up for league minimum.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
But that's the only thing that I can think that
comes to mind is you're probably gonna save yourself at
least half a million, a million bucks.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Something like that, maybe more. Who knows.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I just I have no idea because you oftentimes too
like you'll get a guy like let's say you have
three guys on the active roster, that fourth string guy
and he'll get some working, but if he's in the
practice squad, he can go throw for different drills that
you have.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
You know, some of the limitations that you have as
a coach is because.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
You'd like to have a guy whos a quarterback who's
throwing football, even on the defensive side of the ball, Like, hey,
we get a guy to come down here and throw
something for us, like work on what work on, whatever
period it is.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
You can't always go ones on ones.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
A lot of times you have the platoon during the
course of a season, and to be able to have
just a guy to go down and help out an
extra arm, that's also something that's kind of like pivotal
in all of it.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
So I don't know that the justification for it. I
think it was awful. At the time.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
It literally killed off a third of the quarterbacks in
the league because everyone transitioned like that, like I remember,
because it changed over the course of my career, Like
I remember my rookie year.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
It happening. First game, very very first game of my career,
it ended up happening, that's right.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
And I was sitting there, going, this is unbelievable. And
I watched my quarterback coach, Rip Sheheer. He went over,
he got the he's got his you know, his clipboard thing.
He had a little sheet on and all this stuff
deactivated him. Derek Anderson was in. I was next up,
and I thought to myself, Wow, that was fast. I mean,
I was still like I can distinctly remember the first
(28:03):
game in college, first game in the NFL, because until
you see it from the perspective of like having your
your helmet on and looking out through it and you're
in the uniform and it's it's real, you really don't
know how like what that looks like. I remember in college,
like just running out through the tunnel and seeing that
the crowd full and being in that position and thing
and this is so cool and you know, people yelling
(28:25):
at me.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Like, hey, get the personnel and get the personnel, because
I was supposed to be signaling personnel and i'd signal in,
but then I'd like go back right.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Well, I mean it was just like it was first
the first time you ever saw it. You're just like
so enamored with it. It's just different when you're a recruit.
It's different. Then you get in the NFL. I remember
like just even going through warm ups and guys would
be like, you know, they got the Jumbo trying up
there showing players stretching and stuff before and guys like
wrapping into the camera and stuff, and I was like, man, this.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Is really different.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Like no one's like doesn't seem to be focused right
now on the game, Like they're over like signing autographs,
talk of people tapping.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
It up like just chill on the sidelines.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
And then you get a little older and you're like, yeah,
these guys have been doing it for a while, Like
they don't you know, they've got their routine like that,
they're they're comfortable, they're good at it. But I just
remember like even that and like the fans and everything
else for an opening game and how different it was.
But you kind of obviously snap out of it in
that moment because it's a very sobering like okay, like
now now I have to get down to business. But
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it's but that was the first time I remember at
the beginning of my career thinking wow, like you could
be a third string quarterback starting a game and you
legitimately could get thrust that into this thing, so you
always have to stay ready. By the end of my career,
was not that most teams only kept two and it
was it was a tough conversation. Like I remember going
out to Seattle Seahawks with Pete Carroll and Tavars Jackson
(29:46):
God rest his soul and myself had had a good preseason,
both of us, and they called me the end of
you know, it was the first time ever got cut
after being in the league seven years, and they called and.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Say, hey, you got a great camp.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
You know you're gonna land somewhere else, but like we're
only going to too right now, and that's just kind
of the way a lot of teams are doing it.
And I was like, damn, Like that was not like
my intent going into it, Like I thought I was
going to be a backup at it, you know, and
obviously Russell was going to start that year. But and
then that hit me and I was like, oh okay,
Like I I didn't think I was gonna be off
the team, especially with you know, all the equity I'd
(30:18):
build up there. So it's just I don't know why
it changed.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It was.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I think it was bad in a lot of ways
for the league.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
And with the cutdown off season, you need another quarterback
in there to help with development. So that's why I
keep going back to it's gonna be awesome for a
lot of players.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
In the league.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, Like it does bring up the point though, you
know now that all these jobs have opened back up
for quarterbacks. You know, like if there are certain quarterbacks
that maybe are are outside looking in and now all
of a sudden, the window opens up and they've got
a bunch of connections in the NFL. You know, it
makes you wonder whose phone's going to ring, you know,
LeVar makes you wonder who's going to get a desper count,
who's going to get a call from uh you might
(30:53):
be the first teams in the NFL quarterback as a
beautiful thing. Yeah, you know, it just makes you wonder
if you know, be somebody, somebody in South Florida is
gonna be.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Getting a call Tom Brady, who Florida?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
You know, somebody who's well connected, knows.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
What people in the league, you know, like Brady Quinn.
That's a great point, LeVar. I mean that would be
a great pool, right, all of.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
A sudden, Mike McDaniel like, what a conversation between Mike
McDaniel phoning out to Brady Quinn, sound like, all right,
give me a ring, Give me a ring and I'll answer.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Is Brady Okay, go ahead, go ahead, Fort Lauderdale Fitness.
What's up?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Hello Brady? Good morning. So this is like a cool
little thing that's going on. Are I just wanted to
call you and tell ye there's his coach mc daniel.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
I've been enjoying the NBA playoffs, but I just want
to make some time to get on the phone and
talk to you about me a new opportunity that i'd like.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
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Speaker 5 (32:07):
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Speaker 1 (32:26):
Hold on a second, hey, coach, are you vaping? Maybe
just a little bit, Brady, maybe just a little bit?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
And uh is that?
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Hold on coaching talk? Why did you out just the
like though?
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Hold on pretty.
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and of course, the adult website Cam Soda has taken
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opportunities to offer offer contracts to athletes, It's called cam Soda.
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To hear me not to have mentioned banana boats. One year,
two hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I mean it's not bad. Yeah, you know, why why not?
Uh listen, he had a great career.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Just the problem is, I think people are going to
look at Carmelo and go, yeah, well, you never want
a championship.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
The problem is is they're always going to hold him
to a standard next to Lebron because they.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Came into the same draft. So and Dwayne Wade and
d Wade. Yeah, there's a couple others in that track
lay too, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
He had one of the I guess for a one
and done arguably the greatest season bright you can put
together at the college level.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Oh absolutely, at the college level.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
He was phenomenal NBA level, one of the better scores
that I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Super prolific, yep. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
And it's just crazy because he won't be judged off
that maybe until he gets a little bit further away
from the game, just because of the brilliance of Lebron
And like you said, Dwayne Wade, I mean, they had brilliant.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Careers because there was a time he was the best
scorer in the NBA where if you gave him the ball,
he was scoring scoring, you couldn't stop him. And I
think people kind of lose sight of that. They just
focus on, you know, the comps. As we've mentioned, what
else we got lead.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Some NFL news.
Speaker 8 (36:59):
Green Bay has been selected to host the twenty twenty
five NFL Draft, and Levi Stadium in Santa Clara has
been selected to host Super Bowl LX Super Bowl sixties.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
How about that? Huh?
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Green Bay gats so that wasn't the one that was
up for debate.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Isn't isn't the one sixty one? Isn't that the one
between La Miami. There's a few places bidding on that
that hasn't been acided.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Little La versus Miami. There little battle. Just put it
in Miami, like just LA can't handle this stuff, all right,
the traffic, the road closures, it's terroristic enough.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
If people care out there, you know, do they care?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Do you think people are here to like football? What
you're getting at?
Speaker 4 (37:35):
That's Chargers fans?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
What aw come on?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
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