Hour 2: LaVar Arrington & Jonas Knox – FAKE BIRTHDAYS

Jonas takes a shot in the dark and wishes LaVar a Happy Birthday. Hard Knocks expands its search for a team willing to go through the distractions. Nick Saban takes issue with the College Football Playoff Committee. Plus, role models, darts and ducks on this week’s edition of “Would You Rather…?”

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Didn't go well.

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I didn't even try.

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it back in the chamber and said, nope, it like
that not happening here. It is Two Pros and a
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Live? I'm just saying there it is.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
By the way, we need to get to the bottom
of a major controversy. Uh and it's NFL and college
football related involving a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
We're going to get to that here in just a moment.

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going to really put to test trust. Do you trust
Wikipedia or do you trust Pro Football Reference? And here's

(02:20):
why I asked that question because you've explained this before,
but I forgot, so bear with me on this, all right,
But which birthday is right? Is it today June twentieth
or is.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
It June thirtieth?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'll never tell.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Okay, I'm going to go with June thirtieth, all right, Yeah,
that's the one I'm going to go with, because that's
all right. So Wikipedia has you at June thirtieth, but
Pro Football Reference has you at June twentieth. And you've
told us a story before that you gave out a
fake birthday, or you gave out a birthday that was different,
or there was a grammatical air or something like that.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
That's correct. I gave out a different a different birthday.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Why'd you give out a different birthday?

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Because it was fun to do at the time, and
I was like, you know, the Internet had just become
a thing. Googling people had just become a thing, and
so I changed my birthday one because I was thinking
about identity theft for one, but then for two, I
was really like, on some I wondered like a lot

(03:31):
of people would approach you and like start saying they
know everything about you or their family or this, that
and the other and they would use like, you know,
different facts to prove it, like oh, I know your
aunt such and such and da da dine. Yeah, I
remember when we were celebrating your birthday and you know,

(03:52):
da da die. I was like, oh, when it's my birthday,
you know, oh it's it's a June such and such.
I was like okay, And I know that they were
or a little off on their information, like yeah, you
you actually probably just googled me right before you walked
up to me, you know, and looked at my you know,
looked at my stats.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Oh, so that was how you knew they were full
of crap.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Sometimes it was just one little little that was subtle.
But you'd be surprised how many times your birthday comes up,
like especially on on the on the one that isn't
your birthday. You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
If you could have picked your birthday.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I want the one, the one that I have.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Okay, so you're not like, because I always feel bad
for people that have a birthday, like right next to
a holiday. What a pain in the ass, because then
you just give people the out, like if you've got
a birthday on December twenty fourth, or even if God
forbid the twenty fifth's.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Or even or like imagine on like January second, third, four, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth,
Like you just get short changed because you got New
Year's and you got you know, Christmas.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah, and everybody's broke at that point because they splurged
on Christmas.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
And New Year.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Definitely New Year like what like people people pull money
together to go out and enjoy New Year New Year's Eve,
so and.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Then the second rolls around, they're like, oh damn.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
But if you want to wish next week, you know,
if you want to take a chance and trust one
or the other, you know, you can just wish me
happy birthday on both.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I mean this is this is what got Brady suspended
in the first place, is not not correctly doing your birthdays.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Those are facts.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
So maybe there's the possibility that you'll get suspended because
you're going to mess it up.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
God has got my birthday wrong. Next thing, you know,
man up and vanished like a fart in the wind. Bam,
there are punishments on this show.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Bam.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Talk about the fine system that got you ten dollars
right here.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Well, and by the way, Brady's is going to get length,
then a little longer, because he's not even here to
wish me a birthday if it were my birthday.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Great point, all right, I'm going to add on. It's
like the part on Shawshank when he's talking to do
freight in the hole and he goes, give you another
month to think about it. That's how we're doing, is
two pros and a cup of joe. Though here on
Fox Sports Radio, hey By, we do have ourselves a
little bit of an update. I know this is a
major story here in the NFL, huge story, the saga

(06:31):
of Hard Knocks, where the NFL apparently has expanded its
search beyond the four qualified candidates to try and find anybody,
somebody please take the reins and be featured on Hard Knocks.
So the Jets, the Bears, and the Saints have all
said publicly they don't want any part of this. The
commanders have an ownership fiasco they're trying to sort out.

(06:54):
Not sure the NFL wants to put them on display
with all that going on, So the NFL apparently has
expanded its search to try and find somebody to be
a part of Hard Knocks, and at some point, you
got to stop giving CPR to the corpse. It's over.
Hard Knocks is done, nobody cares, nobody wants to do
it anymore. So now we move on. But it does

(07:14):
bring up the question if you had to pick a
team to be on Hard Knocks, or a couple of
teams you'd be interested in seeing on hard knocks, who
would they be?

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Lebar Arrington?

Speaker 5 (07:24):
If you had your choice, the NFL came to you
and HBO Candy and said, give us, give us some
quality candidates, and let's see if we can figure this
out together.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Who are you going with?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
The Pittsburgh Steelers okay, Kansas City Chiefs okay, the Las
Vegas Raiders?

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Do I need to keep going?

Speaker 6 (07:48):
No?

Speaker 5 (07:49):
I'm just always curious if you had a couple. Okay,
so you're going Chiefs, Raiders and Steelers. Now what is
the appeal? So in Pittsburgh, is it more Mike Tomlin
because he would be the start.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, but I think that he would be the star.
But I mean, who better to have as a star
than the person that is the leader of the team,
you know, so everybody feeds off of that. So I
think that that would be truly entertaining to see that
environment behind the scenes, Like I think that would be truly,
truly entertaining. And there was Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin is

(08:22):
like he's a guy. He's a guy, So to be
able to see him behind the scenes, I think that
him and his coach instead, I think that would be
pretty cool. Along with the players.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
And then the Chiefs. The appeal would be obviously Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Andy Reids a character too. Yeah, he was my coach
in every Pro Bowl as that was back when he
kept coming up short. And you know, when you come
up short, you end up being the coach in the
Pro Bowl when you're the one game before the Super Bowl.
So he did it like three years in a row,
and he was my He was my Pro Bowl coach
three years in a row. So I got an opportunity

(08:56):
to get to know him on that level with him
coaching us, uh, you know at the Pro Bowls, but
I went against him twice a year every year as well,
so I got to got to know Andy Reid. But
I think that that's uh, you know, Kelsey is entertaining.
My homes is definitely he's also entertaining. I think the

(09:18):
whole Chris Jones thing. I think that would be. He
would be entertaining. Well, he would probably you know, reenact
the forty yard dash, Yeah in his backyard.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I think that would be entertaining for some people out there.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
Try jogging with a pair of boxing gloves on your
bell buckle. Damn, forty yard dash gets the best of
us every time. Are those everlasts?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh no? Oh no, they said so. They said those
under armours were bulletproof. I guess that that wasn't true. Yeah,
they weren't true. Uh, you know, I think that would
be super entertaining, And clearly I think that the Las

(10:15):
Vegas Raiders would be. They might be the most entertaining
out of all of them, because you just have no
idea what the hell is about out to happen in Vegas.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
By the way, they might be real bad this year.
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Like, if you look at the Raiders situation, I don't
know how anybody thinks they got better by getting rid
of Derek Carr and the Josh Jacob stuff. And DeVante
Adams has been vocal about it, like I like Jimmy Garoppolo.
Derek Carr is a better quarterback than Jimmy Garoppolo, I'm sorry,
and Jimmy Garoppolo's banged up. It just it feels like

(10:49):
that thing could go to your point in the wrong
direction in a hurry, and you just wonder whether or
not they want to showcase that on it.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
It would be entertaining to see the early, the early
way of how they're doing things before the season gets started. Yeah,
because they if you were called last year, they were
actually a competitive team. They just kept giving up the leads.
They kept you know, losing at the end of the games.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Oh, like the loss to Arizona and Kyler Murray, like
that was one of the most improbable losses of the year.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
They had a few games locked down that they lost.
Then they lose to the Colts too.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
Yeah, yeah, was the one loss win that was Jeff
Saturday was a lone win as head coach of the Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Did they bring him back as the head coach?

Speaker 4 (11:38):
No, they did not. Oh yeah, no he's not. I
believe he's fishing somewhere. Oh from my understanding.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
But but yeah, the Raiders would be a good one.
What do you think about that. I've got a couple
I want to throw at you. Okay, come on the
Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, I would be entertaining.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
I mean, listen, your guy.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I thought we were going into practice with a whole
lot more energy, but then I realized that we didn't
have the energy.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
I mean, it'd be listen.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
You get to see Mike vic day a vape day
at Daniel or whatever they want to call him.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Is it it's making.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
People call me Mike vape Daniel. I don't, I don't,
I don't know, but you know, everything is cool. I
got good players, and we have a good team, and
so we're gonna do the best that we can't. You know,
he's been really confident lately too, by the way, so

(12:38):
it's it's like his confident voice. It's like it's like
been like, well, I think that went really good this year.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
I'm telling you, the season's got to wear him down
before he starts to resort back to.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
I really don't believe that the season is going to
wear me down. I feel really good, Like my voice
is right here right now, it's not dragging like this.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, here's another one for you. Okay, what you got
the Browns? I want to see HBO days. I mean
subjective massage Watson.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
See, but that would get boring. That would get boring
watching them dance around it because everybody would be sitting there,
like can we please show massage table? Oh, can somebody
please reference him as Massage Watson, Like there's going to
be so many different things that you want to know
and understand that way that aren't going to get discussed
that it would actually be to me. I think that

(13:29):
would be a miss. I think the Browns would be
a miss.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
I mean, well, Stefanski kind of looks like a werewolf,
so there is that, and in the middle of training
camp with the sweat flying on.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I just don't think too many people outside of the
Cleveland Browns fan base care about Cleveland. I just don't
know that that. Like it's like the book is like
written on them, like they're dysfunctional, Like they took their
dysfunctional level to a whole nother level when they signed
the dysfunctional Uh uh, you know, I don't know what

(13:59):
you call it, but he was dysfunctional in terms of
needing to be more functional. I guess I'll say.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
What about the Seahawks, Pete.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Carroll a lot of energy.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I think I think I think DK could carry it,
I think, But could he I think he probably could
there there could be somebody else on the team that
could carry it. I just don't find them to be
largely a an entertaining team. There's nothing really entertaining about them.

(14:39):
I wouldn't be in on that.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
I was going to throw in like the Giants, maybe
with day Ball and uh you know you've got obviously
Daniel Jones is there.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
But the Sake one, I think I think that one
would be a little more interesting, just based upon the
market that they're in. I think the Jets and the
Giants you can't miss, Dalli a Cowboys you can't miss.
You can miss out here. You can miss with the
Rams or or the the Chargers, you could miss with them.

(15:11):
But for the most part, I think big market teams.
I don't think that you you could go wrong if
they were on there.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Yeah, it's two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, So we'll keep you posted.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
If the NFL.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Finally, I don't see why we would keep people posted
to pull the plug. They don't care, just like we
don't care to pull the plug on the hard knocks.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
I should uh so coming up next here though, for
the tire Rack dot Com studios. We are going to
have a discussion about somebody and this is like an
all time great head coach apparently not happy with the
way things.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Are done in their sport. We're going to get into
that for you here.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Next on FSR, be sure to catch live editions of
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern
three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the Hard
Radio app Two.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in we'll call
it about twenty minutes from now from the ti Raq
dot Com studios. We are going to have ourselves another
edition of would you Rather? A Tuesday tradition. We've got
to make some hard decisions here on the show. We're
going to have those discussions about sports and some other
topics again, coming up in about twenty minutes from now
here on Fox Sports Radio. So LeVar Arrington, Nick Saban

(16:26):
was in the.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
News recently, it's about that time.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Yeah, Well, like you know Jamiir Gibbs, who's now a
member of the Detroit Lions. He complained about how hard
practices were at Alabama. But I mean, it's kind of
interesting because Jamiir Gibbs is running back. Coach spoke with
the Lions and said that, you know, he's looking for
Jamiir Gibbs to you know, show physicality in every sense

(16:53):
at training camp, which I think kind of feels like
an Alabama move, but apparently like they.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Want him to do that in Detroit.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
So you know, it feels like we've got a little
bit of an issue there since Jamiir Gibbs didn't like
how Alabama practiced all those years. Okay, so nonetheless that
story was out there, and then Nick Saban decided, well,
since everybody's not a big fan of potentially my practice
habits and the things I do at Alabama, why don't
I go ahead and just serve this one up for him?

(17:20):
And so Nick Saban spoke with Joel Klad of Fox
Sports recently about his issue with the college football playoff committee.
Let's take a listen.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
The problem with the way the whole system is. All
we do is take the teams that win the most
games at the end of the year and put them
in the playoffs, But do you really get the best teams?
When they told me that we would be favored against
three out of the four teams that got in the playoffs,
I'm like, well, why aren't we in the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (17:47):
But if you're going to.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
Have parody, you have to have a better way of
figuring out who has the best teams, not just because
you lose two games on the last play of the game.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
So that was Nick Saban talking about the issue he's
got with the voting and the College Football Playoff Committee
deciding which teams get into the four team playoff.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Now this is going to be all irrelevant.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Coming up here soon because they expand the college football Playoff.
But I understand what he's saying as opposed to is
it about your resume or is it about who's the
best team? The eye test and all that. But at
some point the games on the field have to matter.
And look, they lost two games. They were close games
last year. But I don't know how you would take

(18:28):
anybody outside that made it to the College Football Playoff
in the top four, like a TCU and say, well, no, no, no,
Alabama would beat them on a neutral field, so they
should go in. They probably would have, but they didn't
get it done when it mattered during the course of
the season on the field. Thus that's why Alabama wasn't
put into the College Football Playoff.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
I mean, the Penn State won the Big Ten one
year and didn't make it into the playoffs and a team,
how did the Big Ten made it into the playoffs?
Now to me, that's ridiculous out. I can't, I can't.
I can't support if you've lost two games like they didn't.
Did they play in the SEC Championship? I no, they

(19:12):
didn't even make it. Who played it was? Was Georgia?

Speaker 4 (19:16):
And why am I blanking on it? Georgia?

Speaker 5 (19:18):
And oh geez, why am I blanking on it? But no,
Alabama was not.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Part of it, wasn't. I mean, so, if you're going
to be favored against an inferior opponent like you said
that paid played their games that were in front of
them and won enough to make it in that that actually,
in a lot of ways, does have to be your resume.
You do have to win to get in in a

(19:44):
lot of cases, a lot of instances. But L s
U right, Okay, I just don't buy I don't buy
the idea that because you're you're playing a tougher schedule
or whatever it may be. I don't. I don't buy
if you've lost, you should still be able to get

(20:07):
in under the circumstances of you've lost more than one
game two really good opponents. I just don't. If there's
a team that hasn't lost, then they've shown that they
could win against the teams that they're playing, especially if
you're talking about a team that goes through a conference

(20:32):
right like you're whether it's the Big Twelve, whether it's
the Pac Twelve, whether it's the Big Ten, whether it's
the SEC. If someone wins more games than another team
in that that conference, I would assume that they have
more of a right to be in the playoffs than

(20:53):
one that may have had a loss. That's just my
opinion on it, and that might not be a popular opinion,
but I know that that's how my my world was
governed when I was in college. You win, you're in.
Keep winning, Keep winning. Now people got left out, like
what if you had more than you know, one team,

(21:13):
like the year that that Penn State should have been
national chance, but Nebraska got it. It's it's you know,
both teams were undefeated, but you didn't have a playoff then,
so it didn't really matter. But now the fact that
you do have a playoff. I've always said, take the
winner of each conference. How many conferences are there?

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Well, there's I mean the Power five?

Speaker 1 (21:38):
How many power so it's five. So so when you
think about five, all right, you got five participants? How
many how many? How many? How many games are in
the in the playoffs? Right now? There's two rounds?

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Right, Yeah, there's the college flow of playoffs.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Four So it's four four teams, four teams, one championship game,
and that's going to expand. But if I'm where we're
at right now and it's four teams, I just think
that you you got to measure out the strength of

(22:17):
the strength of the conference and if you've won that conference,
like because to me, I feel like it's if if
a school like Kansas State goes undefeated and and they
win their their conference, it's hard to say they shouldn't
be in there to someone who's a runner up or

(22:40):
or didn't even participate in in the conference championship game,
like or even to say the runner up the runner
up should should be in and someone that won their
their conference and went undefeated, shouldn't be in. I just
I don't. I don't. I don't buy that. I don't.

(23:00):
I don't subscribe to that, and I don't I don't
know how to make sense of that any other way.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
I like when Alabama gets in when there's an argument
against them, because it pisses people off that I find
comedy in that, and.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Well, because they can win, yes, you know, they can
win it.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Of course.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
And I would also argue Alabama could have won this year.
I mean them against Georgia would have been a better
matchup than TCU Georgia turned out to be. Like, I
would totally agree, and I like that. Nick Saban is
pointing to the gambling lines and the betting lines as
his argument for why Alabama should have been in the
College Football Playoff. But in every sport, the way it

(23:38):
works is there are tiebreakers. When there's a tie or
there's something of equal value happening, you go down the
list of tiebreakers. Okay, what was their head to head record,
what was their interconference record, division, like all of that stuff,
And so it still goes back to the original tiebreaker,
which is the win loss record. And I would agree

(23:59):
Alibama's two losses last year were really close games. They
lost that epic game against Tennessee and there was a
field goal that won it for you know Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
There that was an amazing game.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
And then they lost that game in overtime on a
two point conversion to LSU. Those are really close games.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
That's the beauty of college football. I hate to say it.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
And you still lost, Like I would agree that. Like, look,
there was four points was the difference between Alabama being
in the College Football Playoff. But those four points have
to matter.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
It's have to matter, and they have to matter.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yeah, I agree that. That's why I think. Look, it
would be once the College Football Playoff expands next year,
this is you know. I mean, I'm sure people will
find the argument for the thirteenth team and then the
seventeenth team and then whatever the expansion turns into down
the road. But when it comes to Nick Saban and Alabama,
it just I would say, listen, man, maybe you would

(24:54):
have beat Michigan last year. I don't know, but they
probably would have had a really good chance.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
That argument point every single year. My again, I mean
it's a different era, but we had the best team
in the world. My last two years of school, my
sophomore and junior year of college, we had probably the
most deepest talented team in all of the world, Craig,

(25:22):
and we ain't win s because we let We always
let a game get away. My sophomore year it was Michigan.
My junior year, my last year there, it was Minnesota.
Like we always let games get away from us at
the end of the year for one reason or another,
no excuses, just we you know, we did not win

(25:45):
those games, and we would slip, like like my sophomore year,
I think we lost what two games or something to
that that effect. My junior year we lost three games
in a row. And I know we lost those those
games because you lost the drive to fight to try
to win, because you weren't going to play for national

(26:07):
title anymore. So you know, it's not always about on
paper the best team, and that to me, that's the
beauty of the game. It's it's really about can you win.
Weeke in and week out, can you deliver the goods?

(26:28):
And sure you can. You can take one setback, and
in the college playoff era, you can take one setback.
But don't be complaining if you took two. I'm sorry.
There's there's a team out there that probably only has
one loss that should have had just as much a
right to be able to be in that playoff to

(26:49):
try to see if they could match and test what
their one loss record is against some other un you know,
teams I haven't undefeated or one teams. They should get
the test themselves over a two loss team. They just should.
I'm sorry. The more losses you have, the less of
a conversation it is, if you ask me.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
And also, like to your point on, you know, the
best team maybe sometimes doesn't always win. Like I would
argue Michigan was a better team than TCU last year.
I could make that argument until they played, and I
can't make that argument anymore. And I would say, listen,
Michigan would have been a better matchup against Georgia because
I think they absolutely would have been, but they didn't

(27:33):
get the job done on the path there, so they
didn't get the opportunity to do it.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Like that's just the way this stuff goes.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
And we can go back and do hindsight twenty twenty
and say, well, if Michigan would have gotten in, or
if Alabama would have gotten in that National Championship game
would have been much better. I think people forget they
look at how bad the National Championship game was between
Georgia and TCU, and they forget the quality of football
we got in the semi final games. Those were That

(28:00):
was the best semi final lineup that we've ever seen.
You were there for Ohio State, Georgia, that was Michigan,
TCU was Banana Land and that we got to see
that and Ohio State and Georgia right after that game,
Like those games were fantastic, and you could argue for Michigan,

(28:20):
you know, or either one of those results. You could
have argued Ohio State should have won that game. If
Marvin Harrison doesn't get injured, Marvin Harrison Junior doesn't get.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Probably wouldn't that game. If he doesn't get injured, They
didn't have an answer for him.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Like we were.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
We were this close to seeing Ohio State and Michigan
in the National Championship, but it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
That would have been amazing, awesome, that would have been
amazing for ratings. So but it would have been you know,
but and that's going to I mean, that's gonna eventually
that is going to happen. You're going to eventually have
you know, two teams from the ten that end up
lock horns. You're going to eventually, depending on how all

(29:04):
of this goes, that that might end up becoming a trend.
Is a superpower a superpower one of the power fives
soon be a superpower school, a superpower conference. You know
it's been the sec of late, but you know you
had what was that that was a Big twelve school

(29:24):
that I played in it last year. I mean, yeah,
you get you get that, you get that set up.
I mean not once once all this once, all this
nil stuff and and all this TV money stuff starts
to kind of pan out. You're probably going to see

(29:44):
a lot of schools get top heavy.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
By the way, I feel bad for the TCU fans
that traveled all that way to come out for the
national title game. First of all, the weather was awful
that entire weekend. Secondly, their team goes out there, they're
all dressed in purple and gets sawed off on national
TV and it was like it was like a five
hour autopsy. This is what's wrong with you. That's what happened.

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Speaker 4 (33:08):
All right, Lee to lap? What do we got? All right? Guys?

Speaker 8 (33:11):
After a careful consideration, I've decided to rephrase.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
A question that I was going to.

Speaker 8 (33:15):
Give you Guys, would you rather if your son had
a poster of this have a poster of this player
on their wall? Would it be Zion Williams Center Dameran?

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Oh wow, that is a that's.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
A good one, Lee.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Yeah, you should have heard the one before. Yeah, the
one before. I wouldn't have landed.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Well, Uh, wouldn't have landed well.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
I'll say Zion because that I'll be able to explain.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Which one would you allow to date your daughter? That
the first one? I knew that's what I was going
to do. Which one would I allow to date my daughter.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah, we didn't know how that would land with you,
so that.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
That was a wise decision. That's a wise one. If
I had to choose, I would go with Zion.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Yeah, I go with Zion's That's an easier thing to
explain and relate to when you're older, as opposed to
holding a hand cannon on Instagram Live.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah. I mean that's like I don't know, like boys
will be boys like nah, I like the boys will
be boys with Zion more than I like the boys
will be boys with John Moran. I mean I might
be right there with Joe with Zion, like yes, Ion,
yes see what up? What up? What up? Like? Uh huh,

(34:41):
I'll see you my guy.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Man.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
I mean the results aren't good. I mean she's clearly
coming for him, but you know, I can understand where
he was at in his thinking.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yes, yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah. I mean, both pistols will get you in trouble.
But I'm just saying, I'm just saying, law.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
What else we.

Speaker 8 (35:08):
Guys, we're in Vegas right now. Would you rather be
hanging out with Jimmy G or the entire team of
the Golden Knights?

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Um, Jimmy G is too good looking? So I don't
want to hang out with Jimmy.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
G Yeah, although.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
I deal with that when I hang out with like
Sean Merriman and Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn, you know,
I don't. I don't really like hanging out with good
looking dudes. So I would have to say I would
hang out with the Golden Knights, but the ones that
have like teeth that they got to put in their
mouth and stuff like that, you know, they have dentures

(35:45):
and all that stuff. I want to be around the uglies.
I don't want to be around the pretty dudes with
the the euro cut suits on and stuff like that.

Speaker 8 (35:52):
You know.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Yeah, But like the thing with Garoppolo is, you know
he can't he can't have all of them, you know.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Like I mean, if there's like a crap.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
But but see, you gotta be you have to be
okay with being that type of dude that you're saying
to be like, he can't, Like I'm with him, he
can't get them all. So I'm gonna get a strackler
that wanted him, But I'm would be able to get
him because I'm with him, Like.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
I work with you and Brady, Yeah, I work with
you and Brady.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
What is that? What exactly does that mean?

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Okay, so when we go out what ends up happening?
People want pictures? Who's the one they asked to take
the picture?

Speaker 6 (36:31):
Me?

Speaker 5 (36:31):
It's never can get in that. It's it's you know what's.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Funny though, It's funny where they're asking you to take
the picture, but they'll say something, They'll quote you from
something from the show.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
It's like, hey, but well you know, hey, you know
you're you're a great at directing traffic.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
How do you take care? Yeahs aren't you?

Speaker 1 (36:55):
You might hold the camera? You're the Joe Please full length,
full dards?

Speaker 4 (37:03):
What else we got? Lee?

Speaker 8 (37:04):
Guys, I know your fans of darts. Would you rather
be given a million dollars straight up? Or ten chances
at a bullseye? For ten million dollars?

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Ooh, a bullseye? I mean scare money, don't make money.
I'm I'm gonna take my shot on that ten million.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
You know, I'm surgical with this.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I'm surgical with this. Who said that Washington Training Day? Yeah,
I'm surgical with this.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
I will Yeah, I'll take my chances. I'm confident I
get in a.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Bullseye, get for ten million, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
For ten million dollars.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Hell yeah, normal normal, you know, normal distance away from
the dart board.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Okay, here's a better one for you.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I'm hitting that all right.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
What if you get your ten chances? But with every
miss it goes down a million.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
So if you get more than one bullseye, ten million
of bulls eye, yeah, I like that, but it.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Goes down a million every time you miss. So you
throw the first one, you miss the bulls eye, it's
down to nine, then down to eight, then down to seven.
It's basically beginning to get get no, just like you
would lose a million if you miss.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Oh, I'm taking a million, then if you make the
rules that I'm taking the million.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Might that might change my thinking as well too, because
I have a.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Feeling that's a little bit more pressure.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
It would it would take me five or six and
I can't handle the stress. So as much as that
would be, you know, more than the one million I
would get, this stress would really.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Wear me out. That would be a problem.

Speaker 8 (38:39):
What else, Lee, I had a long one? How about
a short one here? Donald Duck or Daffy Duck?

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Would you rather.

Speaker 8 (38:46):
As your duck of choice?

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Whoa what's the difference for me. I mean they're they're
you know, one is white, one is black. For what
is one has clothes on and one doesn't. Why? Why
does Glad? Does Dappy not have no clothes on?

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