Up on Game: Hour 1 – Victor vs. Britney, Damian Lillard, and more!

LaVar Arrington and TJ Houshmandzadeh talk about Victor Wembanyama’s run in with Britney Spears, Damian Lillard’s request to be sent to the Miami Heat, Tom Brady’s financial issues after the collapse of FTX, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:43):
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Speaker 4 (00:48):
All right? Happy Saturday to everybody out there. This is
up on Game TJ. Hutchman's out of Plexico Burst, LeVar Arrington.
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(01:30):
there's a lot going on. And I talked to Earl
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Hook from Up on Game Presents to come on in
the second hour to talk about that. And speaking of
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(01:50):
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(02:11):
you know what else should be a good thing to
ask my homeboys, my my roadies, my my dogs. How
y'all Saturday doing, Man, how's everybody doing? How y'all how
y'all feeling well?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
I'm doing a okay, you know, what in a minute,
LeVar A, you're gonna be saying hit us up on
the threads instead of the tweet, turn hit.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Us up on the thread. Yeah, that's that's that's the
new thing. Huh yeah yeah, just thinking like, what are
you talking about yet? No, No, I just saw that
they launched it, like seventy million people signed up already
or something like that. Yeah, man in the metaverse. Yeah,
and there's always something new that's gonna come right. That's
you know, it just is what it is, right, the thread.

(02:51):
So is this a young platform? Is this an old platform?
Talk to me about it, TJ.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I believe it's just a competitor for Twitter, since Twitter
has now taken a check mark away. Now you gotta
pay for your limit the characters. It's characters. So Twitter
gonna have to stop with all the the little hit fees. Yeah,
or people gonna be on his threads. And I don't

(03:17):
think people will ever leave Twitter.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
And you're talking to.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Somebody that was very very very late to join the
social media trend in myself, but the people that I
know said, yeah, they be up on They said, I
doubt if Twitter dies down.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Because it's just so popular.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
But so who you got built in influencers in your crib,
so I'm sure you'd be getting that inside.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
By the way, you on your way.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
By the way, Plexico is with his daughter for a
basketball tournament, by the way, so that that that kind
of slipped me. But Plexico isn't in today. He stretches
with his daughter out of tournament. So it's tj for
for the day. But you still can hit Plexico burs
up on the tweeter or y'all should just hit him

(04:06):
up just cause, just cause, you know, just just just cause.
So let's talk about Victor win Yama, Victor Wimbanyama. I
call him Meama.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
You know, like the Lion King and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
He didn't have an amazing game yesterday. He had some decent,
decent numbers, average numbers. But I thought the more interesting
story ahead of of his his game was Britney Spears. Oops,
she did it again, but she didn't do it again.
She tried to tap the dude on his back get

(04:48):
his attention. I guess you wanted to congratulate him. The
video has surface. The security guard did like one of
those back away back swipes towards towards who he felt
was trying to get close to his client and went
upside her head. Britney Spears fouls a police report against

(05:09):
the security guard in the situation and just it. I
just wanted to say, what's up to him? I find
this topic more entertaining to discuss than his his appearance.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
It was a great appearance.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
He got a great welcome to the NBA welcome and
it was a sold out house. But I mean, he's
he's he's a young buck, he's a rook and and
he didn't he didn't do no Lebron James like type stuff. Yeah,
he ain't do nothing crazy, no AI type stuff. You know,
he ain't do no nothing that that you're you're gonna say,

(05:42):
you you missed it, You missed history being made. Other
than the fact that well it was his first game,
what's your take on the whole? Britney Spears deal man, like, Uh,
you know your you seem like I wasn't around you
when you were an active player. I was around Plexico.
Plexic is a completely different person now that he's retired.

(06:03):
Like he's much more laid back, he's much more approachable,
He's he's nicer like when he was a player.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Dude was was He was not nice. He wasn't the
nicest person. Bro Huh. Could put it bluntly, he wasn't nice. Hey, bruh.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
He was still in that serengetti like some of us
like me, I'm just I don't care, like I'm cool
unless you just disrespect me. Other than that, if you
come up to me while I'm in the middle of
eating my food, I could be literally putting my fork
up to my mouth to put the food into my
mouth with family, and somebody come up and be like, oh,
I'm a fan, LeVar oh start spitting all all you can,

(06:45):
just pump more, just get a picture with you.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
You know.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
And I'm like, I don't like the fact that you're
spitting all my food while you're talking, and it's grossing
me out a tack bit because well, I just you know,
you're you're exchanging germs and I don't don't even know you.
But I'm okay with you, Like, let's get this flick.
Everything's cool. I feel like it's a quicker deal to
to take the picture and and give a fan and

(07:10):
experience and I'm flattered by it, so I'm okay with it.
But some people aren't now Victor bin Yama. He had
his back turn, he was walking, so it wasn't even
like he had the decision to make his security saw
somebody creep up on him and got him off of him.
Was this right or was this wrong? In your in

(07:31):
your opinion, tj oh it was.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Right because his level of popularity of stardom is so big.
If he stops, he'll never get to where he's going now.
When I was a player, we were never to the
We never got to the level of popularity that he's

(07:56):
at already as a rookie because basketball is an international
glow and it's no helmets. You see their face as
clear as day, so everybody knows who he is. When
for me in that position when I played, I signed autographs,
I take pictures. It didn't matter to me because at
the end of the day, who the hell am I

(08:16):
to say no, like just because I can play a sport.
That's what bugs me about guys that are athletes. Like
even to this day, people ask me for pictures and
autographs and I'll sign them. I have no problem with
it because if you think I'm something, wow, I'll take
a picture. I'm always appreciative of it, and I'll never

(08:37):
forget this. When I first got the Cincinnati obviously I
didn't play, and so myself, chad Ron Dugan's, Peter Warck,
a couple I think it was Robert Bean, a couple
other guys, younger guys, some receivers.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
dB.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
He's just different guys with the Bengals. But obviously Dub
Peter Warick was the most popular. He's a fourth pick
of the draft. This is second year. So we go
to the mall in Cincinnati and people want autograph from
Dub Pictures and it was a ton and he did
something he didn't do them all. But in the meantime,
I'm me chad Ron Duken's we just standing there. They

(09:14):
don't ask us for nothing, right, And I didn't care,
but I was like.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
That's how it is when I'm with you, though that
when I'm out with you, that's how it is when
I'm with you. So that's quite crazy, right, So things
happened that way.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I sat there and was like, man, this is cool. Man,
I wish they were me, and Chad was like, man,
I wish they would ask us. And so when they
did start asking, I'm not telling them no, because when
I saw the way they were wanting dubs, autograph and picture,
I was that's what we wanted. So then when you
get it, don't back away from it, right, And I've

(09:50):
always been that way. I'm not mean to anybody. I'm
gonna take pictures. I'm a joke with you. You may
take a joke the wrong way, but if you do,
it's no malicious intent. So back to women, Yama, he's
on a different level than any of us have been
on coming from Europe. If he stops again, bring this

(10:10):
Britney Spears. He didn't know who she was. She's five
foot nothing. And this is the thing though, she know
how it works. She knows when you have security and
they put your hands on you, what's going on.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Imagine if somebody ran up on Britney Spears, Britney Spears,
hid and.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Grabbed her or tapped whatever she did try to get
close to him, what would her security do. Shame on
her for following a police report. Shame on her because
she was a global superstar at one point in time.
She knows how it feels to be in his position,
in his situation. And no, he didn't turn around. It

(10:48):
was his security so I believe she was completely wrong
because if anybody can relate, it's her.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
She was once in this position.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
That's great point. Now his hand did make contact with
her face, well, it went from the video that I saw.
I don't know if it was his hand or her hand.
It was a hand.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
It was a hand. I don't know which one it was,
but you know what it was.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
When I watched it like ten fifteen times just to
try to get like in context, it was one of
those you sweep the arm backwards, like your your palm
is pointing backwards towards your back and your thumb is
pointing down to the ground. If I could kind of
explain this. Ray didn't even look like the security turned
around to see who it was. They just just kept

(11:36):
it pushing. They threw their arm to like keep like,
don't touch him type deal.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Now she's short, she's short.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
It didn't look as though there was like you looked
at the person and you aimed to hit them in
the face. It was more or less you ran up
on the client, You touch them in the back where
it was like an arm sweep to get anybody who
was in that area back off away from his back.
That's what it looked like to me. But you know,

(12:06):
people have different interpretations of how things work. I'm sure
she was quite offended. She she definitely looked like a
victim after the contact was made, her body language and listen.
Like I said on on on two Pros yesterday and
a cup of joke by the way, I don't condone

(12:27):
violence towards women, but I don't think this was a
valance towards women type of situation.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
The scenario.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
I think this was a fan, a fan like, let's
just take Britney Spears's name out of the equation.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
This was a fan that wanted to run up on.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Victor get whatever it is that she wanted out of
the scenario and interaction an autograph, a photo, conversation, whatever
it was, and that wasn't the time or the place
for it, and the securities stopped that person from from
having that interaction with him. And I think it just
went as far as that wasn't anything domestic about it,

(13:05):
wasn't anything egregiously out of order about it. An accident
took place where you know, she was struck in the face,
But I mean, you're in Vegas, it's summer league, you
got to imagine he's probably been getting you know, kind
of ran up on the entire time that he's been there.
So you know, I'm with you on this. I don't

(13:27):
see this as being an issue or seeing this as
being a big, big ordeal. I'm kind of interested in
how quickly this this will be dismissed or if it
does turn.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Into it was dismissed immediately as soon as the video
came out, It's like, oh wow, she thought the police
word this okay, move on, I mean, and it sucks
that that happened to her, But again, she's been in
his position. I'm sure she didn't stop for everybody. I'm
sure she didn't take pictures of I'm sure she didn't.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I'm sure somebody touched her and she didn't know it.
In something.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
When you're at the level that these dudes and these
young women are at, when they're global superstars, it's a
different level. We've never experienced, it never will and so
I get it. But I was just I was different
because the way I came in and.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
I still to do.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
I still try to treat people to dude, you never
know when these people are going to see you, and
so make that interaction when I'm gonna give you a
quick story before I know, we gotta take a break.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Right.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
So my wife, when she was younger, used to always
go to basketball games with her family, Laker games and
she not even a Laker fan. Go figure, right, And
she tells a story when I meet her years ago
of she was getting out of grad there playing to
go to State Warriors and Tim Hardaway was signing out
of grass and she was like the second to last

(14:54):
person before he got on the bus and he didn't
sign her autograph. She remembered that. She remembers that always
every time she So you know, when I was watching
the cart and show on Fox, she was like, and
Tim Hardaway was on there with plaques. She was like,

(15:15):
that's the one that insigned my autograph. I don't like him.
She remembers that. Yeah, of course, and that happened so
many years ago. And so I hope I don't have
and I've never had any of those situations because people
remember those encounters. And I was so lucky and blessing

(15:38):
up the playing the league as long as I did.
I don't want no kid to walk away remember that
about me. And so that's why I am who I am.
I also wanted that to happen when I saw it
happened to Peter Warick, who was, in my opinion, the
best college player that I ever seen in my life.
I agree. Yeah, But man, come on, Britney Spears. You
you of all people, man, you you are a global superstar.

(16:01):
You know what it's like. Well, there you go, that's TJ.
Hitchman Zada Brittany. You know, just him hardaway.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Man. I wasn't trying to call you out, bro, just
telling this true story.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Atim. Man, you should have signed to her autograph though. Man,
you know, come on, man, you autumn crossovers. Man, you're cool, dude. Man,
he should have signed that autograph. Man shouts out the case. Anyway,
this is up on game. We're gonna take a quick break.
On the other side of the break, we're gonna keep
it round ball. Dame Lillard. Well, he said he only
wants to play for one team. Y'all might have heard
which team it is, but we'll tell you what team
it is. And he's basically sending out a message to

(16:34):
all the other teams that may want to trade for him.

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You'll hear that.

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All right, Dame Lillard, you know it's out there, TJ.
That's your boy, you know, baller baller. I want to
stay where I'm at and when where I'm at. But
Dame has since had a change of heart and wants
to go play elsewhere. That elsewhere being Miami. He wants

(18:24):
to play for the Heat and report say that all
the other teams that are calling and messaging Portland about
Dame Lillard and it being a trade, a possible trade opportunity,
they're basically saying, don't waste your time. You're going to
get a very very unhappy Dame Lillard that comes to

(18:45):
your team. I find this to be pretty interesting based
upon the idea that, well, this is a trade situation,
So that would mean that Miami has to be able
to and want to give up in trade what it
is that they're going to give up in.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Trade to get Dame Lillard.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
The Blazers have to get what they want out of it,
which he's their most significant player, so they're gonna want
what they want in terms of what their compensation for
him is going to be. And Dame Lillard wants to
go to where he wants to go to. Now, this
seems like in the NBA, much like James Harden or
some of these other guys that are in the league,

(19:30):
you can actually force your way and force a trade
to exactly the destination that you would like to go to.
I think Anthony Davis did the same exact thing as well.
What's your take on this? How you see this? This
padding out?

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Man, this is gonna be interesting because he's basically saying,
I don't want to go to Boston, I don't want
to go to Philly, I don't want to go to Milwaukee.
I want the Lakers, Clippers, whomever I want to play for,
the Miami Heat figure it out. And the Portland Trump
Blazers are saying the man he they don't have anything
or anybody we want. You don't want Tyler Hero, we

(20:11):
don't want these first round picks that if you get
Damian Lillard, they're probably gonna be late first round picks
with the record you're going to have.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
And so Portland is what are they to do?

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Do you do what's best for arguably the greatest player
in Portland trub Blaze of history, or you do what's
best Portland Trump Portland trumba history.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Who's better than him? Clyde Drexler, Clyde Drexler.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
People many will arguing say it's Damian Lillard, and I
might be some of those people.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I mean, Clyde got a championship there, don't hen in Houston? No,
he didn't get one and nothing play for one?

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah yeah, mister Jordan, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
And so what do you do Drexler get a championship?
Not in Portland? He didn't. Him and Jerome Kersey and him, Nah,
the boys that what Cliff Robinson?

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Cliff Robinson not headband, wearing the head band before everybody
was wearing a head band, Kevin Duckworth. So what do
they do? They don't want hero the heat, they don't
have the assets. So now it looks like it's gonna
have to be a three maybe a fourteen trade to
satisfy what each team wants if they can.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Figure that out. And so you got to do what's
best for your organization.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
But I'm a firm believer in the way Dane was
so stadfast and wanting to get it done in Portland.
I mean, people, why should they look after Dame because
he made it a point to try and stand win
a championship in Portland and say what you want. Oh yeah,
Damien Litterar has requested the trade. What Portland truble is

(21:59):
when you dress to Schoot Henderson, you basically was telling Lillard,
please with crust this trade, We're ready to move on
with our point guard at the future. That's what they
told him, and so he got the hint and he
followed up on that. I just don't believe it's possible
for him to go to Miami if it we believe

(22:20):
was reported. They don't want Tarlie Hero that it has
to be another team or two to get involved to
satisfy what Portland wants. But I truly truly believe Portland
should try to do right Bomb, because he tried to
do right by Portland for many, many years and it
just didn't work. They trade CJ. McCollum, bring in Jeremy

(22:43):
grad and different guys to see if they could get
over the hump. They could not. So to me, I
believe you do right Bomb because now if Scoot Henderson
is that guy and you don't do right by name
who I believe is the greatest player in franchise history. Uh,
what you're gonna do buy Scoot Henderson and then the

(23:05):
next great player to come, and then the next great player.
And so you said a precedent, and so I believe
they should work with them, which they are. Don't take
less than what you deserve and what you believe you
should get, but just work with them. And that's what
it seems like they're doing.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
All right. Here's my question.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
If that doesn't work out, DJ, what I mean, it
sounds as though you're talking about work out of him
being traded. He's he's basically saying he's willing to sit out.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
It got no, no, no, no, it gotta work once to work,
once this comes out, it gotta work. I mean, look
at Bradley Beal going to the Suns. Bradley Bell will
be looking to leave the Washington where's this being He's
gone like it has.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
To work there.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
That's a little different, right because he's giving you one option.
He's giving you one option. It's tough.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
And that's and that's where the Miami Heat gotta really
get on a hustle and cause some of these other
teams around the league, who wants Tyler Hero and this
and that and and make it work. Use your imagination
use your mind and get on the phone and call
some of these other teams and make it happen that that's.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
What you have to do. All right, Well, we'll see
how would you would you agree?

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Like? Yeah, I definitely agree. I mean he's he's giving
them what he has. And again when it was when
getting out seemed to be convenient.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
He ain't winning a championship in Portland, but get leave.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
But it doesn't look like they're building the team to
go in that direction, right.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Hey, guess what.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Guess what, he ain't winning win in Portland and guess
what he get to Miami.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
He ain't winning won there.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Either, So you see to feel like he can go, Hey,
that's the best. That's the best thing in the world.
When you think you can do it. Because they ain't
gonna do it, that ain't gonna I don't. I don't
believe if Damien Lillard is on the Miami Heat that
makes them championship contenders.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Don't.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
I'll debate that it's a better series in the championship
round if Dame Lillard is on that team, And I
agree with it, and it might have been a stressful series.
It's for for Denver fans. If Dame Lillard. It's it's
forty two instead of four to one. Straight up, they
win in six instead of five. But it mightname seven.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
If no, it's not a game seven, absolutely no, if
Jannis doesn't get hurt.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
H do they even beat the Bucks with the Damien?

Speaker 4 (25:35):
I mean, there's the boys, but said they was roughing.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
They was rough in Milwaukee.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
They we all know Jannis wasn't himself in that series
because of the injury. And so yeah, they'll be a
good team, the Miami Heat if they get Damian Lillard.
But I still I just believe there's teams that are
better than them. But Spostra and pat Riley, I don't
know how they do it. I don't know what they doing.

(26:03):
These dudes find guys man that you'd be like, who
is this guy? Oh yeah, in three four years, he
gonna sign for four years, sixty four million. You'll see.
That's just what they do. They develop guys. They developed guys,
and guys turn out to be really good players.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
That get with the Miami Heat.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Like if I was a young guy, I would love
if I knew I was gonna be undrafted, I want
to go to Miami Heat. If I believe in myself
and I can play. They gonna get any better like
the Miami was shown. No, who's done a better job
of getting guys in the second round or undrafted and
making them into really good NBA players.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
They're the best at it.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
All right, Let's let's switch topics here. We're gonna go
We're gonna get a trending. But U before we go
to trending, I'm just giving y'all a quick little teaser.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Thirty million lost in the collapse of cryptocurrency. You want
to about that? Sit tight?

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Hey, mister Isaac lowing Kron, Can you give us a trending?
Can we get an update on what's going on out
there in the sports world before we let him in
on that little secret?

Speaker 6 (27:11):
I certainly can, especially since I had a double check
with my accountant when you said that to make sure
that it wasn't me speaking.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
I'm hoping that but I know you be all right.
I'd just be a little drop in the bucket for you.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
Yeah, I mean, I mean it pretty much is. I mean,
I appreciate you being being honest. You're absolutely right, man,
We're gonna be honest about Victor Webbin Yama's NBA Summer
League debut on Friday Night, the number one overall pick,
his San Antonio Spurs defeated the Charlotte Hornets in Las Vegas,
seventy six to sixty eight. Wembin Yama played twenty seven
minutes scored nine points. He was just two out of

(27:44):
thirteen from the field, but he also had eight rebounds,
three assists, and five block shots. Now, purely for comparison
slash entertainment purposes, fellas I was able to dig up
the stats that Tim Duncan had in his NBA Summer
League debut in nineteen ninety seven in an NBA Summer

(28:08):
League that was known as the Rocky Mountain Review. In
a game against the Utah Jazz the Jazz Beetha Spurs
eighty five to fifty nine. Duncan had fourteen points on
six out of ten shooting from the field, eight rebounds,
and two blocks. But was what was even more notable
was the performance of the player that he was going against.

(28:29):
Utah's Greg Ostertag had twenty one points on seven of
twelve shooting from.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
The field, Big strong fella.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
With ten rebounds and five blocked shots. So, just to
put it into a little bit of perspective on how
Tim Duncan's NBA summer league debut went at both ends
of the court. Some twenty six years ago, multiple outlets
report the Philadelphia seventy six ers restricted free agent forward
Paul Reid has signed a three year, twenty three million

(28:58):
dollar offer sheet with the Utah Jazz. Sixers have until
midnight tomorrow. At the match, free agent forward Dario Sarich
has agreed to a one year deal with the Golden
State Warriors. While in Major League Baseball on Friday night,
the New York Mets what at San Diego in extra inning,
seven to five, the Mets scoring four runs in the
top half of the tenth inning. The Mets now in
a six game winning streak. The Dodgers hit five home runs,

(29:21):
two of them by Mookie Bets, in an eleven to
four win over the Angels. All right, who lost the
thirty million?

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Who?

Speaker 4 (29:28):
All right, here we go, I low. It's Tom Brady.
Tom Brady reportedly lost thirty million in the collapse of
cryptocurrency company FTX. This is this is now. I'm not
really learn it on all of this this investment stuff, TJ,

(29:50):
but it looks as though Tom Brady. A host of
other influential people, including his former wife jesse Albunchin, were
faces to this company. The company was estimated at thirty
two billion in value. Between Tom and his ex wife,

(30:15):
they had like something like forty eight million in stock.
Eighteen million was for Giselle, forty four or excuse me,
thirty four for Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
It collapses.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
They lose all of it, every last penny of it, reportedly,
and now they're being sued by people who invested in it,
and now so they have to deal with the legal
ramifications of being being facial focal figures and influencers, ambassadors

(30:50):
to this brand, to this company that collapsed.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Now.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
I don't know why they collapsed. I don't, I don't.
The market is a volatile market. I don't want to
sound ignorant in this discussion. I'll just keep it, you know,
surface level. Have you ever had a have you ever
had an investment that collapsed on you and you got
caught caught off guard with it? I know I have,

(31:16):
I got I got I got it interesting. I mean
I have a couple interesting stories on that.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, it's happened to me.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Not thirty million, not thirty million but it was See,
this is the difference. That wasn't Brady's thirty million. He
didn't put thirty million in. He was given thirty million
in stock. And I believe his ex wife was given
what was it fifteen eighteen eighteen and stock. So it
wasn't like they invested their hard earned money like you

(31:45):
and I did and lost it. They were giving that
to promote the company. Huge difference, huge difference. And so
but the people that are sowing, it's like they endorse
something that didn't work out. Why are you sewing them
because they endorsed it. You followed him. That's on you, dummy.

(32:07):
If you're gonna follow him because it's Tom Brady and
it's just L Bunching and whomever else, that's on you. Like,
I don't understand how people can sue somebody because they
endorse something and it collapsed. It collapsed. You think they
wanted to collapse? Don't you think they wanted it to
succeed because all the stock they had in it, it would
have been more money for them. But yes, this has

(32:30):
happened to me where I invested my own money, and
that's why I will never invest in anything. I'm so
scared now because it was a friend. It was a
friend of mine. He was really like we was thickest
you've seen him. You've seen me vice versa man, and
he got me. And once he got me, I never
spoke to him again. I ain't never seen him since.

(32:52):
And I mean we were together, damn near every day.
He was at my house. He was like an uncle
to my kids. And once he did what he did,
I stopped dealing with him.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Wow, you know that's that's I think. I think a
lot of us all have one of those that, dude,
Like think all of us have one of them.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Like when it comes to stuff like that. And maybe
I'm naive, man, Maybe I'm naive. I can be, but
when it comes to money and friends and family or whatnot,
like money comes and goes, bro it comes. I stock
grew up with nothing Section eight. I got two younger brothers.

(33:34):
We all shared one box of macaroni and cheese. Bro Like,
so I can live poor, Like y'all have a problem.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I'm happy.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
I prefer not to because once you get out of that,
you realize, like, like.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
There's a whole world where you got so much more.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah, but money comes and goes man, the relationships that
you have with people, the way that you treat people.
You can't pay for that. You cannot pay for that.
And so I just have always been a guy. I'm
not I'm not ripping nobody off of anything. That's just me.
But the people that get extremely wealthy, I guess you

(34:13):
got to sometimes do some things you don't want to
do to friends, family, whomever. It ish. But that that
has never and will never be.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Mem you know, I'm super quick one that really jumps
out at me that I made because I made a few.
I mean, I always thought I was like one of
them super intelligence dudes. Man, and I'd be like, yeah,
I do my due diligence, I did my homework, I
scared it things out. I went on my own. One
of the projects was this Turks and Keko's property and

(34:43):
it was it was called Molasses Reef and the rich Carlton.
Now listen to this, listen to this, TJ. The rich Carlton.
So so that that's a Marriott property, right, I believe
if I have a selective memory, because this it was
pretty traumatic, but I believe that's a Marriotte property. It's
their high end Marriott property. And Lehman, Lehman Brothers. Leman

(35:08):
was taking the lead. Leman was taking the lead on it.
Rich Carlton was going to put their hotel on, put
their brand on it. So there was going to be
villas that were available for rental, and that.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
The others and Caicos was popping.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Come on, bruh, come on like mid mid like early
early early.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Part of two thousands, right, like vacation there.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Yeah, like well like to two thousand and eight nine,
something like that, something like that.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Anyway, So I'm doing my due diligence. Lehman Brothers.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
It would have been two thousand and eight or nine,
because it was right before the first that first economic
bottom fell out and Lehman went under. But there's the
point of the story, right, Leman takes on the lead
of the debt of making this project work, financing the project.
They got a whole bunch of different influential athletes, some big, big,
big names, much bigger than mine, and I put in

(36:09):
a ton of money. I'm like, this is a this
is a can't miss. It's a can't miss. And on
top of that, I was I was specking out to
get a property lot to build a forever home on
that property. So I was going to go you know,
if you know me, you know I'm the type of
dude I'll go catch my food. I'll go catch a fish,

(36:30):
you know, enough fish and cook those bad boys. And
I'll do that every day, like you know what I mean,
like some rice with this fish. Like I'm good that.
That was my forever. That was my plan, Like I
was going to retire there, this that, and the other
day died this, that and the other. The whole bottom
fell out. Lehman Brothers goes under. Now could who could

(36:52):
forecast that? Who could forecast that? Leman goes under? The
rich Carlton is like, eh, we're going We're gonna try
it for a little bit, but if it doesn't, we're
falling out to So the next thing, you know, Rich
Carlton is no longer involved. So now the financial group
that put it together and brought Leaning in as the

(37:15):
lead got got rich Carlton to do it as the
company that would would take care of the island in
terms of like amenities and all that stuff were out.
They were hustling to try to find someone to take
over the project and finish the project. Never happened. Never happened.

(37:38):
So you're sitting there. So you're sitting there and you're
looking you're like, wait, hold on, man like like hold
on wait, wait, wait, wait wait, you ain't calling no more.
I'm not getting no email updates. There's no conference calls,
there's no meetings in New York, there's no renderings and
different things of you know, what's taking place the next thing,

(38:00):
you know, it's just all kinds of mess came out
of it, and your money was gone. And I tell
you what, that is one of the most empty feelings
that you'll ever have. And it's partially part of the
reason why in general, when I'm telling guys about you know,
when I'm mentoring guys when you go to the league,

(38:20):
you are your stock. Like I tell guys this all
the time. The most the safest stock you can make
money off of and get a return is you and
your abilities. That's your stock. You don't have to go
chasing the market, go chasing these different things. Like it's
nice when you hear of a great story somebody did

(38:42):
this boom boom boom it hit You know the one.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Football player who did the outback.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
You know, you got players that make investments they do
really well on their investments.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
It's a handful of guys.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
And I don't say don't look to be a business man,
because I'm a businessman now. I feel like I'm doing
really well in business.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Now.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
I would just say just wait until you're done playing,
because while you're in the market as a football player
or as a basketball player or a pro player, that's
receiving like the type of cash you're receiving, that is
your stock, that is your investment. Like if you're getting
five hundred thousand, three hundred thousand, two hundred thousand a game,

(39:23):
if you're getting three hundred four hundred thousand a year,
just as like a regular a regular player, that is
more than you'll receive in any other type of investment
that you would put out there. So anyway, that's my
thought on the TJ. And you know what, like at
least it wasn't Tom Brady's money, right, So anyway, this

(39:44):
is up on game, We're gonna take a quick break.
On the other side of the break, Josh Allen, Well,
he's down playing off season drama with Stephan Diggs. But
I'm curious to ask TJ as a receiver, what this
really means, but we'll talk about that on the other
side of breaks up on Game Fox Sports radioh A
go ahead, A go a go, A go ahead, A

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go go go go. All right, welcome back into the show.
It's up on Game Huh. We're live from the tyrack
dot Com studios. It's TJ. Hushman's Ida. I'm LeVar Arrington.
Plexico Burst is off for the weekend. We ran a
little long on the last segment, so we have literally

(40:28):
less than one minute before we go to the break.
But I'll tell you what, here's a great little tease.
We'll talk a little bit more Victor Winbin Yama. We'll
got some Rep Butler coming on. I did an interview
with Earl Spence Junior. You guys will want to hear
the soundbites from that with rets commentary and with TJ's commentary,

(40:50):
and we'll get to obviously I'm gonna pay off the tees.
We'll get the Josh Allen down playing off season drama
with Steph on.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Diggs as well. So listen, we'll take a quick break.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
But on the other side of this break, we'll start
hour two and this is up on Game that's t J.
Hitchmanzada'm LeVar Arrington. It's Fox Sports Radio.