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Shane Payton just really jumped out there and then he
played the role of a turtle like a Now, let
me put my head back under the I don't know
we're gonna get into.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
That turtle heading is never good.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Hey, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Is like, you know, I got all this money, but yeah,
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Many? The Jets want everybody.
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Speaker 1 (02:39):
Are y'all jealous?
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I wouldn't say I'm jealous, LeVar. This is the thing, bro,
I was going to the fight, man. And then when
I started looking at the costs of them tickets, yeah,
I said, oh.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
No, I have to catch that the next time. I
can't think you is that that I have a budget
and I just ain't Kevin Kevin Hart type stuff, right, just.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Say able to do it that much for one night,
I ain't doing it. I can't do it. I'm not
gonna do it.
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I found myself saying that plenty of times in my
younger days.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
TJ. I'm not all right.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Hey, some of y'all out there. Ida caught that out there.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It was inappropriate, but it was funny as.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Hell, though I ain't. I ain't doing ain't gonna do
it too much for one night. Yeah, they'll get my dollar.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Gonna have to negotiate.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Wait, they'll get that pay per view bottle, they'll get that.
They'll get you think.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I could get one of them Florida tickets for twenty
dollars in a jaw breaker in from now Laters.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Bruh.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
They going for like ten grand Oh, man, man, you
gotta remind me. Y'all know, I'm a huge boxing fan.
I don't know if you've seen this, LeVar. Did you
see Kayleb plant take off from Jamaar Hollow? No, Oh,
I'm gonna send taste out. I'm gonna send it to you, LeVar.
I promise you, Kayleb Platt would not be walking around lost.
(04:00):
He wouldn't go to this fight today he had done
that to me. He wouldn't be going to this fight
had he done that to me. I'm gonna send it
to you and then we'll get We're gonna talk to
Red about that later on. Okay, but let's just get
straight into it. I hope y'all are doing well the viewers.
Thank you for tuning in listening each and every day. Uh,
let's thank the piece.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Speaking of viewers, you know y'all y'all was both on
that FS one this week.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Huh y'all all week man, I'll be right back next week.
I don't know what's yeah, I'm back next week. So
good content. That's wonderful. Y'all both doing TV.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, y'all have y'all have faces for TV's a holes.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Hey, let's let the jerks know that there's the people
behind the scenes that make this happen and make these
type of shows possible. We got saund Yeah, he's he's
a resident DJ. He's the Sam keep Let's make sure
we put the Iowa in front training Sam. Who else
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we got back there with. We got Bow and we
got mister Bowl Benson. Thank you to those three good
reason we can do what we do.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Oh wow, I've never really done that. I feel horrible. No, no,
I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry. I've never acknoled you like this.
I had to touch the top of the show.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
But it really is the reason we are able to
have a smooth show because of those three. So fellas,
we thank you ahead of time. Uh, well, I don't
know about Sam. Sam is all right, Sam gonna keep
us by.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Wow, my not my guy, Sam.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Sam's just gonna get it the fourth down and punt it.
That's all, you know what I mean. He ain't trying
to score, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
When you get the four he's an analyst guy.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Nah, he's he's an Ayowa guy. So he's going to punt. No,
Sam gonna get the fourth down. Ain't no punting.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
What you think, Sam, which one you going for which
one you're going with? Paying twenty twenty three? No point,
no plunting, noo.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Told you things have changed now intended? Man, did you
get that? We got it?
Speaker 6 (06:10):
We got Let's get this get in because you know
we're gonna hit this commercial so fast, just break.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Sean Payton comes out and ethers deal Ackett.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
He did, and in the way he went on Sings
and ownership GM and then the following day, which was yesterday,
he made these comments on Thursday, and then yesterday Friday,
he kind of backtracks and apologizes for saying that publicly.
I didn't like the apology. I actually liked the fact
that he wrote and said what he was straight on
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his mind. Y'all thoughts, Let's go, what do y'all think?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I mean, do we have sound on it? Sam?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Do we have Do we have Sean Payton sound on
on what he said?
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Because not what he said. I don't believe their sound
on what he said. I think that was a print interview.
But we do have sound on the apology. Let's hear
an apology.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Oh okay, okay, I'm bad. I thought we were I
thought we had it.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, I really just I just really didn't understand the
point of him coming out and saying all the things
that they had to say. I think I think they
to jump off the to jump off the page and
say he apologized to say, I think I had one
of those moments, but I still have my Fox hat
on and not my coaching hat on. I said, well,
(07:35):
that's how we get down over here on Fox. So
he's not he's not an analyst anymore now that he's coaching.
But from for what I understand, that fraternity of coaches,
they're pretty much a close knit group. And for him
to come out and to basically based blame everything on
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the thing, you'll hack it and throw him under the bus.
With everything that happened last year with the Denver Broncos,
I don't think Nathane Hacker was fired, so everybody knew
the horrible job that he came in and did in
his first year with Russell Wilson. And I think Sean
Payton got frustrated and aggravated with how they're basically saying
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that the Delver Broncos are going to finish lasting division.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
They have the worst.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Team, and he is getting criticized from everything that happened
last year and Sean Page's not that kind of guy, said,
Wait a minute, that was last year. Nathanie Hacking was
all alonger here and he's an offensive quarter for the
New York Jets. So I think that kind of got
under his skin a little bit because he's based saying
to himself, Listen, this season hasn't even started yet, and
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everybody has. The Denver Broncos, including myself, finished last in
the division, and I think he just got tired of
everything that dad was saying about his team, even though
you know he's the new first year head coach, and
he kind of put it out there that the Nathaniel
Hackett ran away from the Denver Broncos to go to
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to to go to the New York Jets to be
reunited with Aaron Rodgers. But Daniel Hackett was then Daniel
Hackett was fired. Though it's not like he just walked
out of the door and said, no, what's fed. Yeah,
I'm leaving this organization. I'm going to a better one
and I'm going to be reunited with Aaron Rodgers. Aaron
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Rodgers talk wasn't even on the table while and Thaniel
Hackett was being fired, So don't blame him. For going
to a better situation, to being reunited with his most
valuable player quarterback and Aaron Rodgers and a better team
and a better offense. So now he's coming. He came
out yesterday and apologized because of something that I felt
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had no merit for him bashing today Hackett.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Let's let's hear that.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I'm surprised. Yeah, yeah, listen what apologies Champagne had to say? Yeah, listen,
I had.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
I had one of those moments where I still had
my fox hat on and and not my coaching hat on.
And uh, you know, I said this to the team
in the meeting yesterday. We've had a great off season
relative to that, you know, and I've been preaching that
message and here I am the veteran, you know, stepping
in it. And uh, it was it was a learning
experience for me. It was a mistake. Obviously I needed
a little bit more filter. You know, there's a pound
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of flesh for these guys, and as a coach, you
stick up for him. And after a while, you know,
we're past that season last year, and and you know,
I said what I said, and obviously I needed a
little bit more restraint, and I regret that that being said,
what I told the team is, you know, if it
can happen, and I'm I think I'm pretty good relative
(10:54):
to working with the media and pretty savvy. And I
just had one of those moments to Lattes and the
warning first first one I see, and forty minutes later,
I'm regretting it.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
So, uh, it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Hey, let me just start off by sad this to
love to I would just start off by sad that
he's got to learn to be more careful period, because
he used some terminology in his apology that could.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Put him, you know, in in harm's way as well.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
If you know where the saying a pound of flesh
came from, that's that's that. That was just probably the
wrong Uh. That was probably the wrong words to use, uh,
in order to drive home a point.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
But what I.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Mean, Plack, I know you you gave your feeling on
but but TJ Woden, what's your takeaway from it?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Why that's how we felt, you said how you felt.
I'm not backtracking nothing. We all went into last season
said Denver Bronco is gonna be really good and then
immediately I'm talking immediately they didn't know if they wanted
to kick a field goal, punt the ball, go for it,
let the clock run. They wear a mess, and then
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you bring in Jerry Rossberg, who's a former special teams coach,
to be your clock management guy. Like there's Russell Wilson
literally looked like he was one of the best quarterbacks
in the league when he was under peak Croll on
the Seattle Seahawks. He gets to Denver, did he really
just fall off a cliff that fast?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Nah?
Speaker 6 (12:32):
And that's what Sean Payton is saying. Nathaniel Hackett is
that bad of a coach that he made Russell Wilson
look like he couldn't play. And I don't mind him
saying that because that's how he felt. What I do
mind is the apology, because, let's be honest, an apology.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
He's being politically correct. We shouldn't, we shouldn't say those
things in this fraternity.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Well, it's refreshing when somebody is honest, because that's what
we want. He was being honest and somebody says something
to him after those comments came out, and obviously the
backlash that comes with it. So now, oh, I gotta
apologize because these people don't like the comments that I made.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Because bro, let's just let's just call it what it is.
Sean Payton has been around Russell Wilson. He sees that
he still has it and he couldn't believe how bad
he looked. Very simple. But Nathaniel Hackett, Now you know
what they're gonna say, because Aaron Rodgers is in essence,
the offensive coordinator and the quarterback in New York.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
So he's gonna make Nathaniel Hackett look real good this year.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
So now you know, people go, oh, it wasn't Nathaniel Hackett,
it was Russell. Aaron Rodgers is going to make Nathaniel
Hackett look better than what he is.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
But what if Russell Wilson looked like some stink again
this year?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
And if Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
You said, Nathaniel Hackett is gonna make Aaron Rodgers look
better than.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
No, Aaron Rodgers is gonna make Nathaniel Hackett look better
than what he because you know, you know, Nathaniel Hackett
was offensive coordinator in Jacksonville. Go look those years up
and go look how that offense performed. Go look it up.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
We already know the New York Jets season and the
record and the wins that they have will not be
because of the thing you hack it.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Okay, this applies that Plex could answer this. We both,
all three of us can answer this. And now I
say Plex more than LeVar because LeVar he didn't really
play for a ton of.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Different coaches and teams.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Okay, so this is gonna be a great question, right
and we all know this from playing many years in
the league. How many dumb ass coaches are there in
the league that anything?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
How many? And this is my point, like you think
because they had.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
The league and if they did coach real well, they
were lacking somewhere else.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Listen, man, everybody assumes because they're in the league, these
dudes know what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I'm not even gonna say this coach's name.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
We had a coach he would tell guys in a
meeting what to They would get out and do it,
and the man's wrong. No, no, no, they would be wrong.
Ninety percent of the time. Marvin Lewis would yell at him.
They would say, this is what coach so and so
said to doing the meeting. The coach would say, I
ain't telling them that. Every player in that every player
(15:19):
in that meeting would say to me, because I was
a leader on the team, bro, he lied, That's exactly
what he told us to do. And this went on
all the time, and it's like all these coaches ain't good.
A lot of them are, but a lot of them are.
And I think people need to understand that. It's oh,
(15:40):
your dad, your uncle, your grandfather gave me a job
years ago.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Now I'm gonna repay the favor. That's how this thing works.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
That's how it works. That's how it works.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I've had the you know, I had a career to
where you know I had. I came across a lot
of different coaches from every position, and I think what
I started to realize the older that I got was
that a lot of the coaches in the in the
NFL learned the game on the screen and on the projectory.
(16:15):
They learned to coach the game through x's and o's,
not understanding what the players go through and what they
need to be doing to have success. If you read
a book thirty times in a row, if you read
the book thirty times, then you can learn anything.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
They did not learn.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
The game through practical Yeah, through playing the game and
I think that's one of the things that separates the
coaches that have played and the coaches that have not.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
And this is what I will say though. This is
what I will say though.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
There's some coaches that have never played that that have
an athletic mind. Off, they have an athletic mind. They said,
he played in college, Kyle Shanahan played in college. They
can process things as if they played because they have
an athletic mind. But some of these coaches cannot. Like,
(17:12):
when I was a Cincinnati man, offensively, we had great coaches.
Probably gave us too much information because when I left
Cincinnati and I was with some other coaches, I was like, WHOA.
I had an appreciation for the coaches I had in Cincinnati,
didn't not realizing how good they were when I was there.
It was almost in a relationship. You like, man, my
(17:35):
wife ain't about nothing. She ain't treating my girlfriend whatever
it may be. And then't y'all you leave her or
she leave you and you go get somebody else, And
you like, damn.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
She wasn't that bad. Huh. It's too late now she gone.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
We was getting that from the players. AB was my coach.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Dude. It's so many of the players.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
I was my coaches from players the other players, and
I don't dude. I had a coach one time say,
we're watching film. Just what's talking about? Were watching film?
He pauses and says, why did you do this? I said,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
If I could pause the play in the middle of
the play, I can give you an answer. I don't know.
I don't know why I did that.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
I don't like the Nathaniel Hackett put the toothpaste. I mean,
Sean Payton put the toothpaste back in the tube thing.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
I get it. He has to be politically correct because
of the.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
Just the foundation that these coaches had coaching active, this
brotherhood have why he's a coach.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
You can tell the players not to be that guy
in the media, and you're being that guy in the media.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
That's why I had to do it.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Sometimes you got to be human man, and Sean Payton
was human in this situation. I appreciated it. It was
refreshing the apology. We get it, we get it. Coach Peyton,
you had to do it.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
He wasn't that meat room and told all them players
them all absolutely, but just know it's us again in
the world. John that's what he's created, and good for
him on doing it, you know what I mean. That's
why I look at it, and it probably came down
with John Elwick.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
You never know. But we are past our break time.
We are sorry once again. Man, these discussions the gotta
be human.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You're sorry, I really really apologizing A sorry.
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Speaker 1 (20:49):
Oh see UK, Ready for that race right there? He won?
You was jogging on the.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Jogging on the second. Need a little water, he needs
a little water. He got a little. It's hot outside.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
I hadn't talked that much all morning until that first reason.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Hey, flag, you had to clear them pipes out in
the first second.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
We get to go down.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
But we got TJ.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Let's go baby this way, y'all on TV now, so
you know what I mean? Like you know y'all, y'all
got the goods you have? Mean, it's a good do
you do?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
We got? Come on, what TJ? What we got?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Man?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Man, we're getting into Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
He voluntarily took a thirty five million dollars thirty five million.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
This money was guaranteed.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
He was getting this money regardless in his pocket it's
to help the Jets acquire more players. I don't know
how many guys will do this or would have done
this Aaron Rodgers. Could it be he's getting back at
Green Bay, like I really want to win. I would
(22:04):
have never done this with you guys, But I'm gonna
do this for my new team.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
That's part of it.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
But he's gonna make that money up, Like think about
that thirty five million. That thirty five millionaire gonna mean
ain't gonna mean nothing if he gets the type of
players that can get him a super Bowl for an
organization that has been starving for a super Bowl and
is in the number one, number two media market in
the world like exact. The bottom line is it's smart.
(22:30):
It's smart chess. He's playing chess, not checkers. And like
you just said coming out of the last segment, TJ,
a lot of these people that are making these decisions
that are in places and positions of power, they're not
very They're not agile in mind, they're nimble in mind.
And when you get a guy like Aaron Rodgers that
thinks the way that he's thinking thinking, he's he's like
a few miles ahead. He's a few miles ahead of
(22:52):
everything that everybody's got going on. And taking that thirty
five million dollars pay cut. You know what it does.
It endears him to his teammates in that locker room.
Like them dudes is in that locker room looking at
Zach Wilson like, Zach, hey man, like, I hope you
get good at holding a clipboard and you can carry
(23:13):
a rod's helmet and carry footballs because you just the
scrub at this point, like now you're seeing what a
real man looks like. Now you're seeing what a real
leader looks like. This man is willing to take thirty
five million dollars of his own money to allow for
our team to continue to pay the guys that need
to be here and get other guys in. Dalvin Cook
(23:33):
is going to sign with the Jets. I don't think
there's any doubt about that that he's going to sign
with the Jets. So now you've added Dalvin Cook to
an already amped and ramped up offense in New York.
The defense is about to be boring. We had We
just had Quinnon on. He's talking about how excited they are.
This team looks it looks and feels like it's going
(23:54):
to be a team that competes almost in the same
manner that Tampa Bay did when they brought in and
Tom Ready, that's understanding the game, fellas. And you know what,
I like what he did because in the end you
could say, oh, well, he might have did it for
selfish reasons. It's still thirty five million dollars.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
People.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
You could say it was for selfish reasons or not,
but that's still betting on your saying.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Ain't no five million. I ain't giving up.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I'm not giving up three million.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
He gave up thirty five million.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
He took a pay cut from an annual salary standpoint
that won't go against a salary cap. But I think
the Jets will still allow him the possibility to get
and acquire that thirty five million that he took a
pay cup from.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
So they gave me more money up front.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
So no, no, no, no, no, and.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Roster bonus, no sign And when you look at it,
it literally he just gave that money back. When you
look at the contract, he had two years, one hundred
and seven million.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
That's how I understood it.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
That was two years back.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, he literally they will find he will find a
way to get it back.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
You just don't away.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
He's not throwing it away, he's investing it.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Hey, look here, like there's no guarantee.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
There's no guarantee that Devin Cook is going to join
the New York Jets.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Let's tell you. Let me tell you, I give up
that money. Guarantee.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
He gave up that money because they've already been in
conversations as to what it's going to take for them
to be a super Bowl team. They've already had this conversation.
And then now Aaron Rodgers and and and these subtle
movements that he's he's making and the things that he's done,
he becomes more of a hero and a shorter amount
of time with his body of work that he built
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in an entirely different place, he might be more beloved,
and he might be more reverenced and in New York,
in the New York market than he ever was in
the Green Bay market, just off of simple things like that. Absolutely,
just like this, You ain't got to use an entire
career to build a You already got the Hall of fame,
you already got the accolades, you already got the honors, so.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
You know what I'm gonna do. I'm do some some.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Real, real app like like man, I don't know, I
want admiration, wants you know.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
I'm thinking out here, I'm thinking from an am Ronis standpoint.
You giving him thirty five million dollars to acquire you know,
whoever may be to help me get closer to a
Super Bowl. I mean at that, at this point going
into the training camp, who is that player going to be?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Or players?
Speaker 5 (26:23):
I mean, if this would have happened when he signed
the deal a few months ago, then you could you
could say that, Okay, now we can go out and
get some players. But now that the season has basically
already started, like who are those players are going to be?
And you say he's giving away he's giving up a
thirty five million dollars to acquire Devin Cooking, that's.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
No guarantee that he's going to join in New York.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Jest I believe if Jerry Jones picks up the phone
and offers Devin cook team mean dollars, he would be
playing beside Tony, Tony Poul and Dak Prescott.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
There's no.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Anybody saying that he won't do that, or he won't
join the Miami Dolphins. So for every Roders given thirty
five million dollars to acquire talent to him and get
to the super Bowl they already had that.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I think it also speaks to him possibly staying longer
than one season.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Two.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I think that's a.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Good, great longer than one season.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
It's a great it's a great indicator that he's not
doing a one and done in New York. Because if
I'm if I'm doing a one and done, I'm not
giving away no thirty five million. But if I'm if
I'm planning on coming back and I'm planning on building
something where we could try to get like, Okay, maybe
I can't outdo everything that Tom Brady did, but I'm
on a quest to be considered to be one of
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the greatest quarterbacks, if not the greatest of all time.
You got to get a few more super Bowls. So
if he were able to facilitate them bringing in players
through whether it be through this next upcoming free agency
or whatever it may be, and they can continue to
bolster that roster and keep hold on the guys that
they have, then you might get one or two super
Bowls in a row and if you can pull that off,
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then now you got to seriously have the conversation as
to what Aaron Rodgers represents, because the one thing that
we hold over Aaron Rodgers is he's only got one
super Bowl. He's only got one. So if you're going
to continue to play, he's already made a ton of money.
He's like, let's make no mistake about that. He ain't
hurting for money. He's already made a s load of
money playing this game. So and he lived in Green Bay,
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so it ain't like he was giving a whole lot
of it away either, you know what I mean. So
where he's at right now, it's more about trying to
win that Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
He's ring chasing. He's ring chasing.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
And if you could get those rings in the New
York market and you could get possibly more than one,
which you gotta believe that's how he's thinking. Then now
he solidifies his legacy like forever, And now you got
to have the conversation, is he the greatest of all time?
He didn't win as many Super Bowls as Tom Brady,
but some might debate that Tom Brady doesn't win no
super Bowls without the defenses that he has. Tom Brady
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might not win those super Bowls without having the coaches
that he had. Like, I don't know what the argument
or the discussion point becomes, but right now it's Tom
Brady and next is Joe Montana. So you like, we
might want to act like we're current and we can
forget about what Joe Montana was to the game. But
Joe Montana up until Tom Brady was the goat that
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nobody could touch.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So Aaron Rodgers got a little bit of a hill.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
To climb to to be at the top of tops,
to be the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It's worth more than thirty five million to him.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
I would assume he's talking about getting the multiple super
Bowls in a short amount of time, and uh man,
that's a tough feat.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I mean, what else, Maybe it gets one? What else?
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I don't think he's gonna run off back to back,
maybe two or three super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I don't see that happened.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
If you get one super Bowl, it was well worth
everything that he's done. Now you got Aaron Rodgers been
in the league eighteen years, he's he only has one
super Bowl. You say only one, but eighteen years one
of the best quarterbacks ever played. One of the best
quarterbacks of this generation. He only has one super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Greatest of all time, but you can't you can't, or
Jim Kelly, you can't say greatest of all time. Nobody
will ever go to four Super Bowls back to back
to back to back. Nobody's gonna ever do that way,
They're not going to do it again. But yet Jim
Kelly did it. And Jim Kelly isn't even in the
conversation of greatest quarterbacks of all time because.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
He ain't win them. Imagine if he won four of them.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Think about this.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
If Aaron Rodgers is able to get one more, his
place in history will undoubtedly change just one New York.
If he gets two, oh, Aaron Rodgers now will jump
up historically in New rusition in the National Football League.
And so he understands what's on the line. That's what
this tells me. He's thinking about his legacy. Aaron Rodgers
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has enough money. I don't know who just gives thirty
five million away. But this is why I say Dalvin
Cook isn't just going on a visit. Dalvin Cook is signing.
It's a foregone conclusion. I agree, because now they're talking, Oh,
we're in the same ball park financially because he not
taking these visits and doing this and doing that if
we're not in the same ballpark.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
So now we're in the same ballpark.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Okay to Aaron Rodgers thinking about his legacy, or he
could be saying the Packers, you know what, I would
never do this for y'all, but I'm gonna do this
for them, so you know, it's a little dig at them. Also,
who knows when you draft my replacement without giving me
a heads up, all respect is lost. We can never
be how we once were. It could be a bunch
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of different things. But I like this Aaron Rodgers. Maybe
this is who he's always been, but it's gonna be.
It's going to be Aaron Rodgers gonna play multiple years
with the Jets because their best players, all these dudes
are young.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
He ain't gotas of right now.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
With all the Super Bowl talk because everybody pretty much
has them, you know, Eshton Concrete to win it. Aaron
Rodgers is still trying to catch Ben Roethlisberg and Eli Manning.
So until he gets to that point, we'll start talking
about him being, uh, you know, one of the best
quarterbacks of all time.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, Well, when we get back, do we have time
for ela on trading? We got time? Yeah, list got time,
low and crime.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Hello, fellas, the Jets is exactly where we're starting, because
Dalvin Cook confirmed today that he will be visiting the
Jets tomorrow, and he also said earlier today that he
has no other free agent visits lined up as of now.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Elsewhere.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
In running back free agency news, multiple outlets reporting in
England Patriots hosting running back Ezekiel Elliott today for a
free agent visit. In Major League Baseball, on Friday night,
the Cincinnati Reds defeated the Dodgers in LA six to five.
The Reds now half a game behind first place Milwaukee
in the NL Central Red Sox won there fifth in
a row. Boston victorious at San Francisco three to two,
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Padres pounded Texas ten to one, and San Diego started
Joe Musgrove improved to ten and three. Finally, we go
back to the NFL for this note. New Washington Commander's
owner Josh Harris treated media covering practice today to free
ice cream. Quite a departure from the previous guy who
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thought ice cream was only good for putting on the
desk of his offensive coordinator back to you guys.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Don't be that guy though, don't be that guy. Hey,
I'm going to come be like they like if you.
I'm gonna give them a bit of advice before you
take us to break TJ.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Hey, it is hot out there, so free ice cream,
you know a long way.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Hey, look here, if you overplay the Dance Snyder deal,
which we know what Dan Snyder was as an owner,
if you overplay that, you're you're running the risk of
putting yourself in the same situation where that media market
will tear your ass up. Like, don't don't, don't be
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no scrub, Like, do what you need to do as
an ownership group. Be cool with with the people, but
don't be on that plan off of well he was
his he as a monster. But we're good, we're nice people,
like we're the nice owners. Just we ain't with that either, man,
Stop that, Stop that.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
But all this New York Jets talk, man, and all
the hype going into.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
The and you acquired dal and Cook and all of
this stuff and everything, don't go how they think this
is going to go. Oh, this New York media can
be so forgiven. You gotta take it.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
You if that's if you don't perform up to your abilities,
Uh what it is.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
I have witnessed and seen what this media can do
to players who aren't confident and their abilities to go
out and perform and play well on Sundays.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I've seen. I've seen guys go in the tank. I've
seen guys.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Well, I don't want to do this because I don't
want to be talked about on Monday morning. I'm just
saying to all these these new guys coming into this
city and and everybody has them to win the super
Bowl and to win the division. Well, the Buffalo Bills
and the Miami Dolphins, they're not eveny stout it either
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in this AFC East. They're so I just hope to
division that everything that they are hoping for and they're
looking to achieve happens exactly the way that everybody's projecting me,
because if it does not, it will be a topic
of discussion every single morning, because that is what the
national media here does to teams and athletes.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Well, you better play your best or it's gonna be
a problem. We got to take a break. We'll be
right back up on game LaVar Arrington, Plexical Barris, I'm
Tej Houshman's out of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Y'all stay tuned in Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Yeah, man, my brothers for real, Virginia Beach's own finest.
Welcome back into up on game tie right, dump the
studios on Plexical Birds alongside t J. Hug Minzada and
LaVar Arrington.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
You now, before we wrap up this first hour, when
we just talked about this prior to going to break,
Dalvin Cook is visiting the Jets.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I believe Tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Says its chances are pretty high that he signs with
the Jets. I don't believe they're pretty high. Believe it's
a foregone conclusion. It's one hundred percent. I'm not taking
a thirty five million dollar haircut without knowing we're getting
really good players, and a really good player that's not
on the team right now is Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
And that's a position that they need because still, and.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
It's the thing like if Briest Hall hadn't torn his acl,
they have no need for a running back. He showed
that he was gonna be one of the better young
backs in the league. Now, if you do sign Dalvin Cook,
you don't rush Bree Tall back. You let them get
completely healthy, right. And Dalvin Cook is going to bring
playmaking ability, can score from anywhere on the field. But
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I don't think what people realize when you come in
as a VET in the game, you're gonna impact the
team more than just on the field. These other players,
young players gonna see how you carry yourself, how you
go about your business, how you take care of your body,
how you prepare off the field. Those are things that
not many people talk about that vets bring to a
team because you kind of learn from other vets as
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you get in the league of just how to approach
the game that has nothing to do with being physical,
to your mental preparation and that part.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Of y'all feel do y'all feel like that's how these
new school athletes perceive old heads that come in. Do
you really think that they take from them? They take
the time, they're aware enough to do it. Because I
don't know this new generation of dudes, man, they different.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
They're kind of.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Different man, Like they might be looking at like these
old as cats, man, they don't know what this is
all about. This that is a young man's game, Like
they could be looking at him in not that type
of that type of way, like, how relevant do you
think that is at this point?
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Nah, they may look at us like that, but they
the ones that are smart, because I would do it.
It was crazy. I got in the league. I'm like, man,
all these old dudes, and then I became the old dude.
But you still may call them that, but you know
that experience may help you, and you're not gonna listen.
There's some old dudes that they just don't take care
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of themselves. And there's other dudes that you see what
they're doing. You may not say anything, but you're gonna
pick up on little things that you see them doing.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
You're gonna mimic it.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
That happens every any smart player that wants to play
a long time.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
That's what they're gonna do. You.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
I don't think I don't think of it. I don't
think it happens more such today than it did when
I came in, because I mean we had I mean,
you look back twenty years ago. The roster was full
of guys that were thirty plus years old, I mean,
like real ass grown men, and you just sat back
and watched the way that they conducted themselves. And if
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you want to have longevity in this business, one of
the things that you have to do, you have to
obviously perform well a year and a year out Sunday
to Sunday, and also take care of your body. And
I just don't see that today. And this generation is
more is when I was playing, and you look at
a guy like Dalvin Cook joining this team and this roster,
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and you know, they have guys who are in a second, third,
and fourth seasons and they're already some of the being
recognized as some of the best players at the position.
And Dalvin has never been a raw rah, you know,
out front, being outspoken. He's one of those guys where
you know what, watched me go to work every Sunday
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and you know and follow my lead. You know, you're
talking about four thousand yard seasons in a row. And
he's one of those guys that's going to bring that
attitude to the team. And I think when he go
if he goes to the Jesse signs a one year
deal because they have Breist Hall coming off injury and
you don't want him to go into his second season,
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you know, looking over his shoulder, so to speak. So
I think Davis has a one year deal. Brees Hall
gets to look at dalving away, he conducts himself, and
if he gets healthy through the season, those guys will
be a one two punch a long time.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
That's a whole lot of ifs.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
But I hear you, if if I had more money
of y'all, I would have brought you out to the fight.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Out this week.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
Everybody ain't got the second hour. Fox Sports Radio up
on Game. Y'all, stay tuned in for the second hour.