August 7, 2023 • 39 mins
Jonas and Brady recap Jake Paul’s defeat of Nate Diaz on Saturday. The Pac-12 becoming the “Four-Pac” is not that big of a deal on the West Coast. Plus, Baker Mayfield and Jimmy G are just trying to get to the start of the season, an all-timer in Cleveland for “Play of the Day” and much more on “You In or Out?”
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event over the weekend. Oh yeah, what was that little
Jake Paul representing the great state of Ohio. Huh, that's right,
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getting it done, getting it done?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
How was brother by the way coming to see him?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
He left the WWE event Summer Slam in Detroit. It
was the first match of their pay per view or
premium live event is what they call it now, and
he hopped on a private jet after his match, didn't
even shower, flew straight to Dallas and got there in
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time to be able to walk out with him and
watch watch his pepate Nate Diaz. Yeah, pretty awesome. It
also helped that the fight started well after midnight Eastern time.
There's also that Yeah, I mean, come on, what are
we doing here?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's how I always used to be. I remember every
main event back in the day.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Like Tyson holy Field, like all that, you had to
stay up late to be able to watch.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I didn't realize that of the difference in that until
I watched pay per view a fight, I think it
might've been a UFC fighter, It could have been a
boxing But when I lived in South Carolina, the difference
between everything ending at one am Eastern time and everything
ending at about ten pm on the West Coast drastic
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because on the West Coast, you finish up nine to
forty five ten o'clock, then you go out to the bars,
you hop on some moar liverlube, you start to eat
a crack and a couple of jokes, and it turns
into a fun night of three hours of fights, three
hours at the bar.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
It's a fun night.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Instead, on the East Coast, all you got is the
three hours of the fights and then you got to
go home because most people were doing last call. It's unfortunate, gotta.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Be honest, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
And most people have like a watch party for it too, though,
so you're kind of out partying while you're there.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean I prefer the West Coast.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Well, let me ask you this, would this have been
a fight that was worthy of a big party for it?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, I think. Look, the fight wasn't awful and people
could say whatever they want and dismiss it and say, well,
it's Jake Paul and Logan Paul and they're not Look,
they're legitimate athletes, all right, these guys. It's not like
Jake Paul can't fight at all, all right, It's not
like he's Tim Anders.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So he's proved.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I didn't know my mic was on. Sorry about that,
oh man.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And we will be hearing one of the great calls
of all time coming up later on here this hour.
Just a tremendous call later this hour. But I just
look at it. I go good for these guys and
the fact that this fight between Jake Paul and Nate
Diez has a chance to outdo the Crawford Spence from
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a week earlier, which is the modern day Paqiao Mayweather
that did six hundred and fifty thousand buys. I'm fascinated
to see how many people bought Jake Paul Nate Diaz, Like,
I'm really curious because the crowd was electric, man, people
were fired up about it. It looked like it was
a sellout in Dallas. And so just to see the
whole presentation, I think it's gotten better and better. I
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think he's gotten better and better what it turns into,
who knows. But look, there's a ten million dollar offer
on the table to Nate Dz to do an MMA
fight now, so there's not like they're throwing around chump change.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
People are getting.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Oh I mean, look, Jake, Paul, Logan, Paul, those guys
are going to be able to get whoever they want
to come fight them and you know, box them.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And because they could draw the interest, right, they can
get the money.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
They can draw the interest of fans and people for
pay per view, and they've been able to figure out
that model. They've been able to, you know, help kind
of bring back boxing to a degree now for boxing enthusiasts.
They may not love it that they've got an outsider
who's come in is trying to take up the sport,
but you gotta give him lot of credit. I mean,
he does work his tail off. He wisely chooses his opponents.
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Which let's be real, it's not like the boxing community
doesn't do the exact same thing to build up a
fighter's record before he gets a title shot. Okay, promoters
have always done this, So like, let's let's get off
our high horse here. Okay, he's doing something very similar
he's enticing guys who don't have a you know, a
boxing background, but maybe a fighting history or background to
try to come take him on. And as he's gotten
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better and has you know, grown in the profession, he's
he's fighting more legitimate fighters.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I guess you could say, so I.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Am curious to see, you know, if you know, when
things will will get to a point where he's got
on some more legitimized guys in the boxing world. And
it's not guys who are you know, mixed martial art
artists who are trying to come over and box for
the first time. But look, it was an entertaining fight
to a degree. You got the sense though that and
(06:10):
maybe this is more the concern I have is, you know,
Nate Diaz is a showman.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He's one of the most fun mixed martial artists.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
To watch fight, although there was a little you know,
showmanship that came along with it, and at times I
kind of was watching a thing And is he really
trying to knock him out or is this more just
like exhibition belt right? And I don't know that, you know,
behind the scenes, there's not a wink nod agreement like hey,
let's make sure this goes the way we hope it's
gonna go.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Like I think that for people that haven't seen a
lot of Nate Diaz fights, him and his brother Nick
Diez are legends off the UFC, so much fun to watch.
Neither one of them has won a title, like, neither
one of them was a UFC champion, But the reason
they're legends is because they would do stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It would be in the middle of the fight.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
They would call it the Stockton slap, where in the
middle of a fight they would just slap a guy.
I was like, wait, what, they can't really do that,
but they would just do it. Nate Diaz had a
guy in a triangle, which is a submission where you're
on your back and your legs are wrapped around his
neck and his shoulder and it's it's it's a choke
and it's you know, one of the oldest, you know
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submissions in jiu jitsu and mma to it. Probably did
it when he was taking jiu jitsu this offseason to
try and recover from concussions. Still can't get any clarity
as to whether or not it was judo or jiu jitsu,
but point being, Nate Diaz strapped one of those on
a guy and in the middle of the fight, is
he was getting ready to make the guy tap, just
threw up two middle fingers.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It's like, that's just what they do.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And they don't think they've ever lost a fight, even
if they technically lose a fight, if they got taken
down a bunch, in their eyes and in their mind,
they still won because they won while the fight was standing, right, Like,
that's just that's just the way it is.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Tough.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, they're awesome, and it's it's a bloodbath, it really
is usually and and anyway, look that the.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Fight was what it was.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
It you know, I didn't really expect to see Jake
Paul get knocked down or have him not win. He
was a heavy favor going into it. The old meat
Wagon asked me before he placed the bet. He's like,
what are you thinking for this? He's like, why is
Jake pull such a heavy favor. I was like, well,
he's a legitimate boxer, professional boxer now and Nadiaz is
in his first professional fight, and I think there's a
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pretty strong indication that these fights are supposed to go
a certain way. And so like the meat Wagon would
do he he bet, he bet he'd bet on Nadia.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
By what did he get it at? Like plus three
sixty or something like that, something like that.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
He really didn't share much more information.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, and that was the other thing. It wasn't like
nay Die's was was going to hurt him. They're all
about output and they outpaced an out cardio. Everybody do,
the Diz Brothers, but they're not They're not one punch
knockout artist. They've had a couple in their career. I
think Nick Diez knocked out Robbie Lawler early in his career,
but those are with four ounce gloves in boxing. I mean,
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you're what ten ounce gloves twelve ounce gloves. It just
it wasn't like he was going to knock him out,
So it went the way it went. But all in
all entertaining fight. And you know, big night for the
Paul brothers.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Big night for the Paul brothers. They get the big win.
There's some other big wins over this past weekend.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, huge college huge wins. Not by the PAC twelve
though definitely not by the PAC twelve. That is, that
is not a big win for the PAC twelve, but
a big win for some of the other conferences who
have let the PAC twelve kind of, you know, saw
its own foot off and try and walk around afterwards.
And you've got, you know, the Big twelve, and you've
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got the Big ten that are grabbing a bunch of teams.
Somebody's got to save Oregon State. There's nothing better than
betting on late night games in Core Vallas on a
Saturday night while you're waiting for Hawaii came too.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Are good friends up there on Pullman, Washington, Washington State,
you know, Oregon State, both really unique, awesome places. And
you feel for those student athletes because that's the unfortunate
part that's gotten taken out of their hands is there's
only four teams left in the PAC twelve right now.
And if you're a coach, a player who's a part
of any of those athletic programs, you're concerned because you
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went there thinking you're going to be part of a
Power five conference, or at least a part of the
PAC twelve, which is a more legitimate conference. And now
I'm not sure if they try to take teams from
the Mountain West, if they get absorbed by the Mountain
I mean, at this point, the Mountain West has more
power than the PAC twelve does. Yeah, and so you know,
they run the risk of losing the rest of the
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teams that are in the conference, maybe to the PAC twelve,
maybe not, or somewhere else. But either way, it's not
a good position of being if you're one of those
four schools.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Just to see what's happened to the PAC twelve. And
this isn't an indictment on everybody, because there's a lot
of people who are passionate about playing for their school
or passionate about their alma mater, who really care and
you know, look, call it, we'll just keep it at football.
Football means a lot to them. But there is a
reality and people out here on the West Coast can
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get pissed about this all they want, they can get
upset about this, but this is a fact and we've
talked about it. It just matters more in other parts
of the country. And this is a microcosm of what
has been an issue to where the interest level. Look,
you do big noon kickoff, you go to stadiums that
are packing one hundred thousand people there, you go to
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certain places in the PAC twelve and it's like, eh,
that's cool, Like, yeah, you know, maybe we're fired up
about it, maybe we're not. And as somebody who was
born and raised in southern California, I didn't really get
it until I went and saw college football elsewhere. And
then you go to the SEC and you go to
some of these other places and you realize it's on
another level. And it's why when COVID hit, look you
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at what Justin Fields was out marching and protesting trying
to get a season back. You had Greg Sanki and
the SEC trying to come up with solutions and coming
up with plans. CC had a plan, Notre Dame had
a plan, like everybody had a plan, and the PAC
twelve was like hold on, everybody, wait, like hold on here,
and you've got players in and around the PAC twelve.
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They're looking around, going we'd like to play. Can we
get an opportunity? And just from the top all the
way to the bottom, it just felt like the beginning
of the end, and here we are they got four
teams left as the season's approaching, So after this upcoming year,
who the hell knows what's going to happen to the conference.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
That approach you're mentioning that like, let's wait, we don't
want to be a first mover in that right. That
not only displayed itself during COVID, it displayed itself with
the media rights deal before that. We talked about you know,
Larry Scott back and was at twenty seventeen and even
you know this year with George Kleevekoff and the way
he had handled those negotiations letting the Big twelve get
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to a media right steal before him, which then limits
the amount of windows you can even be in and
really your leverage too if those networks already have another conference.
But that strategy and not prioritizing football, which is ultimately
what you're tapping into, was ultimately the demise of the
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PAC twelve. And people who are PAC twelve enthusiasts can
challenge me on this, but what you said is true.
And I think whether it's Kirk kurb Street and Game
Day or me and anyone else on our crew, a
big new kickoff, you do get a big a different
feel when you go across the country and see these
different places where.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Football is a way of life.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
And football has been very fruitful to many of the
universities who've embraced it and instead of, you know, trying
to promote yourself as the conference of Champions and how
many Directors Cup trophies you've won, which have traditionally been
something like the PAC twelve and Stanford in particular, have
been really competitive in You've missed the boat on the
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economics of how this is all.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Going to work.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And I think a lot of people who are frustrated
with what's happening in college sports are saying, well, this
is unfair to the student athletes and this is all
about a money grab. Well, okay, but you could make
that argument with anything in America. It's a free market.
Anytime a company grows scale sells out Right, what was
a money grab?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
What was it really about what they were doing, what
product they were producing, what service they were providing, or
was it about money?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
It's always about money.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And the problem with the PAC twelve is they didn't
want to prioritize one specific sport like the SEC, like
the Big Ten and some of the others have done
because they understood the revenue model. And so what becomes
difficult now and what a lot of people who are
upset about me or anyone else saying it's Okay, it
was a money grab. Is understanding what's coming down the pipeline.
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There's a world that exists where football, men's and women's basketball,
which are the revenue driving sports, aren't a part of
these schools. Yeah, hypothetically speaking, you could make the case
that they could be looked at as a minor league
or professional sport where they're licensing back the rights to
use the logo and the mascot, the trademark, all these
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things back to the school. And so then the question becomes, well,
if they're no longer considered student athletes and they're in
this professional world, which there's a lot of moving parts
to get to that point, what happens to the rest
of sports, what happens to the rest of the Olympic sports?
And who's going to pay for him? If you don't
have that revenue coming in from the revenue driving sports
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and football and men's WiM's basketball, you're running out of
deficit and you're now putting more pressure on the school
to figure out how they're going to fund those and
so they either have to drop those programs and they
become club sports which are privately funded through donors, or
the university has to come up with other ways of
being able to and maybe from the licensing and trademark fees, etc.
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That they take from that that would fund those sports,
but they may have to drop some sports. And then
you have to factor entitled into all of this and
how you go about supplying equal scholarships because you know,
for at least for women's sports, you have eighty five
less scholarships now that are no longer there that you
have to match on.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
The women's sports side with football not being there.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So there's so many different moving parts and questions that
come up. But it's crazy to me when I hear
people talk about how oh this is, you know, the
greed and money. Okay, I understand that, but do you
want these sports to survive? Exactly, because if they're going
to survive, these universities had to find a way of
being able to not only remain competitive, but provide the
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student athletes with what they need in order to be
able for their scholarship and their travel expenses everything else.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
And so this is a decision they were kind of forced.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Into because of the lack of leadership of university presence,
in particular in the PAC twelve of Larry Scott.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So that's what's got us here.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
But people who are sitting there, like, you know, condemning
the fact that's a money Okay, show me show me
somewhere where it's not. But show me some industry in
the United States where it's not a money.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Grap you know, it's that's a money grab. How could they?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
By the way, can you give me a two dollars
quick pick on the one point five mega millions that's
going on.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Everything is a money grab. That's the whole point.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But my favorite part about just the PAC twelve network
and all that. So last year, you remember when USC
played Oregon State early in the season. It was a
really great game, great game.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Great game, I wouldn't say almost pulled that thing off, yes,
or a ridiculous throw by Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
So I just remember the hoops that I had to
jump through just to be able to watch that game.
And I live in California and I couldn't find the
game and I had to like, you got to go
to this and go to and I'm thinking to myself,
you've got two undefeated teams, one of them is seventh
in the country, and you've got to go through all
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of this just to be able to watch that wouldn't
happened in the Big Ten, that wouldn't happen in the SEC.
It just it was so small time nickel and dime,
and it was a phenomenal game between USC and Oregon
State in Core Vallas that went down to the wire.
It just none of that stuff happens in these other places.
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Like if Alabama's seventh in the country and they're playing
another undefeated team from the conference, I know where I'm
going to be able to watch it. I know when
it's going to be on same with the Big Ten.
But it just felt like that was the PAC twelve,
and that was a microcosm for the PAC twelve and
what was soon to be the end of the PAC twelve,
which is now.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Are we calling it the pack?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Four?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
By the way, is that.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
We're going calling four pack? Probably sounds what do I
think at this point? We need to put those four
teams ahead of the pack or whatever comes.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
After that the four pack.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I'm just saying that maybe the four pack probably sounds
better at this point.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I don't mean to make light of it or joke
about it, As I said before, I do feel for
all the student athletes and the coaches. But as we
also portrayed in the first hour, you know, when when
I was at least comparing the Big twelve and what
those teams that have now moved to the Big twelve
and what their travel schedule looks like, it's not as
drastically different as you would have thought.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Now again for Oregon, Washington.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
USC and UCLA, those schools are going to be much
more impacted by their travel heading to the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
It's a different conversation.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
But what the difference with that is those schools are
also getting compensated more now, maybe not Oregon and Washington
because of when they got in. Eventually they will though
once they get to the new TV METEA rites deal.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But at this juncture we're going to Washington.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Made a decision where they feel like that was in
their best interest moving forward in order to supply the
necessary funding to the student athletes and keep their programs intact.
And it's harder to have an issue with that because
of such bad leadership that you saw from the PAC twelve.
And so you know, again some people are going to
express concern for these student athletes, and I think there
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is a concern for baseball and softball and volleyball and
all these other sports, and how it's going to work out.
I trust the people who are involved in this that
being able to put together a plan that won't be
quite as burdensome. And I also would say to a
lot of people out there that our recollection. The people
who are my age, older people who are largely speaking
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out against us that have issues with it, they've apparently
missed on what's happened in academia.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
There's a lot of stuff online now. Man.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
All these schools have adjusted, especially in undergrad to being
online and so that they can make a lot of
the adjustments they need to with online curriculum and courses
in order to satisfy the degree requirements. And so it's
not as big of a concern as I think it
would have been had we not gone through COVID and
had all these changes to how what curriculum looks like now.
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App Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
less than twenty minutes from now, we are going to
have another edition of a Uni you out where we
go over some things. Lee de lab throws us some options.
We have to make some hard decisions here on the air,
and that'll be yours here again coming up less than
twenty minutes from now from the tiraq dot Com studios. So,
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apparently Jimmy Garoppolo has struggled a little bit at practice.
We've also seen some stuff with Baker Mayfield at practice
as well too. There's been some interceptions that have been
thrown Jimmy Garoppolo, I believe through seven interceptions over a
couple of different practices. There's been some stuff about Baker
mayfield struggles as well too. He even spoke about it
(21:57):
himself recently. I think last week he talked about just yeah,
you know, I had a little bit of a rough practice,
but things got better the following practice. So we're at
the point now during training camp where people are doing
practice grades and now reporting it publicly to the media,
and now you've got head coaches who have to speak
about it afterwards.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
This is always fun. This is always a fun time
of year.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
And the tough thing for me and hearing this is
for like fans who overanalyze this, well.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
When do you want them to throw the interceptions?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
You know, do you want to throw in practice where
they're getting acquainted to a new offense like Baker Mayfield is,
or you know, new surroundings if you're Jimmy g and
coming off of an injury. I mean, there's all sorts
of different things that play a factor into quarterback play
and decision making and what the end result looks like.
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So for these guys, you'd rather them take their risks.
You'd rather them take their learning lessons or their lumps
in practice as opposed to once they get into a
live game scenario. I mean, the good thing for Baker
Mayfield is I don't think for the Buck fans out
there now. Granted, after Jamis Winston you walk into a
Super Bowl, Tom Brady and the you know, the greatest
quarterback of all time playing for you.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
You know, so those are tough shoes to fill.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I don't think he's gonna throw thirty plus interceptions now,
I'm just I'm just gonna go out there on a
limb and say I think Baker will be alright, he
gets in.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
There, you're gonna make it. It's a bold, bold prediction, Lee,
Can we please?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah? Seth a that I don't I don't know. I
don't think.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
And and here's part of the reasoning rationale. If he
throws too many top boles just gonna take him out.
He's not going to give Baker Mayfield a chance to
be able to equate to thirty plus interceptions.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Do you think anybody will ever throw thirty interceptions ever?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Again, I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Know, man, It's it's it's hard to imagineally because there's
not many coaches that would have that sort of tolerance.
You know, that was such a rare thing with Bruce
arians and and just his tolerance for the constantly pushing
the ball and bring aggressive downfield. I mean, Jamis threw
for a five thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
That's ye. People tend to.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Forget this, like he didn't throw for over thirty touchdowns
as well in five thousand yards. It's hard to do.
And so with those risks downfield, you're going to have
some interceptions of bad plays, and there's a you know,
there's a fair amount of those two that weren't necessarily
on him.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
You know, there's other things that caused it.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
But again, the point is people tend to overreact this
time of.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Year this sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
In both cases for Tampa and Las Vegas, I think
you've got some bigger questions outside of just the quarterback spot.
Where where where are these teams at Are they rebuilding,
are they reloading or they trying to survive and hang on.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
It's not like we're picking either of these teams to
win their division.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
And in the case of Tampa, I think it's a
bit unfairly because they still do have a good roster
and if they can get Baker Mayfield to play the
way he did during his peak in Cleveland, I think
there'll be a more competitive team than we're giving him
credit right now.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I mean, Davante Adams just got to be looking around
going what happened? Yeah, he just got there last March,
and now that he's there, his friend, the quarterback he
wanted to play with, Derek Carr is gone, Waller's gone,
Josh Jacobs maybe gone. Who the hell knows how this
(25:16):
is going to finish up. Like DeVante Adams, it's not
what he signed up for.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
He's going to be looking around going.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That's why I can understand if he's not for long
with the Las Vegas Raiders. And I can understand as
much as he wanted to go there and be closer
to the West Coast and he loved Las Vegas. I
could when you hear his frustrations earlier this offseason and
just sort of talking about, you know, I'm not really
sure what our plan is. I'm not really sure what's going.
(25:45):
Like you know, normally, you know, a player talks out
against his front office and goes public with that stuff,
and it's like, all right, what are you doing? Keep
that behind closed doors. I kind of get it in
his case, because this is nothing close to what he
imagined it was going to be when he when he
decided he wanted to go elsewhere and they made the
trade happen.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Well, I mean, he did sign a contract that gave
him about sixty five almost sixty six million guaranteed total guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, that's I mean that plays a factor.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I mean, the Raiders aren't moving on from him, and
I think if he was to go somewhere else, because
they've got him under contract for at least the next
four years, you'd have to say they could find a
sooner excuse me, a suitor because of his talent as ability.
But you've got to be able to to you know,
work out that contract, and that's not necessarily easy to absorb.
(26:34):
He's going to cost you, you know, average annual value
about twenty five million at least north of that this year,
and it probably averages I want to say it averages
around that, you know, per season over the life of it.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You know what I want to know, And you would
probably know this better than obviously anybody else, especially me
here on the show. But when you're a coach or
a quarterback and you had a couple of interceptions that
you threw him practice and then you've got to answer
questions about it from the media at practice in August,
(27:07):
I'd love to know what the discussion is like after
you finish doing the interview and you're very kind about everything.
If you're a coach or a quarterback, or you've got
to be thinking to yourself.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Why am I having to talk about this? What does
it matter?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
I mean, you do the best you can to answer
the questions that you're asked, but honestly, you're just trying
to get out of the interview. As a player or
a coach, you're just trying to get past it, not
creating distractions, move forward. You don't really care if the
outside knows that there was a mis route, a misread,
a miscommunication. Maybe it was something with the protection that
(27:42):
caused things to change. There's just there's so many things
that play a part in what happens on any given
play that you don't really care to communicate all of that.
There's not going to be an understanding of it. They're
not in your meeting rooms breaking down film, understanding the
objective of east play.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It's that's just the truth of it.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
So, you know, kudos to these guys obviously for having
thick skin having.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
To deal with it, owning up to it too.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
When you have a bad practice, Yeah, we had a
bad practice, you know, and obviously you know I'm fired
up to get out there. You know tomorrow or to
get out there the next time we get out there
to improve upon it. It's really all you can say.
You can't change the past or the result of it.
So it's I would just say this to all the
fans out there, if you're a Raiders fan or you're
a Buccaneers fan, just it's let's just get to the season.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
You see what things look like.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Then yeah, come on, everything will be all right. Two
pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio,
and now it is time for the progressive play of.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
The day and another household double right over the bag
at first Now, hoo'sy and Anderson's square up.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
They're fighting, they're swinging. Down, goes Anderson, down, goes Anderson.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Bramrs went in with a head slide. Hosey never gets
upset about anything. They came up showing Anderson squared off
Hosey dectum. It's a five to one Chicago lead, but
everybody from the dugouts and the Bullpens congregated around second base.
(29:22):
You never see Jose Ramirez get upset like that.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Guardians Radio Network on the call, the Great Tom Hamilton, Look,
I would have you got Howard Cosell, Jim Lampley, Barry Tompkins,
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Speaker 4 (29:40):
What really what really was awesome about it outside of
even Tom's call, which was perfect kudos to him for.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Capturing that moment.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Is it turned quickly into a boxing match for about
five seconds and the second base umpire he almost looked
like Mills Lane out and the week had a fact up.
He was like at first he trying to stop him,
and then he got into a stance where he was
like almostficiating it.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
It was.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
It was bizarre, but but you had to go back
and watch it a couple of times to see it
in the stance he took. But he looked like a
typical seriously like flashbacks of like Mills Lane back in
back in the.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Day fishing some of his boxing matches.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Look, I mean, not the greatest technique in the world,
but Jose Ramirez just kind of winged and overhand right
and conn Anderson, and Anderson went down was wobbled and
he was he was Although I will say this, this
is great for the city of Cleveland. Finally you get
your revenge for the Jordan craig Elo shot. You know,
finally it's about time you guys got you.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
This is the moment, this is the moment.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
It took all this time. It's about time you got
your revenge.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I really thought Tim Anderson with the first punchy three,
he might have clipped Jose Ramirez because Ramirez his blow
is more like glancing. Yeah, man, Tim Anderson took that
thing and he could he could barely stand up.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
What a great call in the moment too, it was amazing.
It's a great call. But that is your progressive play
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Speaker 5 (33:19):
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Speaker 2 (33:27):
What do we got guys? If you're looking for something
to watch? Winning Time?
Speaker 8 (33:30):
The Rise of the Lakers Dynasty Season two debuted last night,
you guys enter out on Winning Time?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
How was season one?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Season one was really good? I liked it a lot.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I'll have to give it a give it a shot.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I don't want to have much time to watch the
TV coming up here shortly, so I've got a I
think a long trip planned. I'm not sure it's gonna
come to fruition, but maybe I can watch on that
long trip.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, I'm out, and you want to know why?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Because I don't want the guy from the Pianist to
be pat Riley.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
That's why Adrian Brodie. Yeah, what are we doing here?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I like, I know who the real power casting is.
That's it because he can slick his hair back.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, I can't a lot of actors do that. Probably.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
I just he doesn't have the biggest role through season
one and so far in season two because I'm not
quite he's not the head coach yet of the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I struggle with watching sports documentaries or sports shows about
stuff that we all kind of watched ourselves, Like, I
can't get over that. That's not Magic Johnson, that's not
Larry Bird, that's not pat Riley. We know who all
those people are. Some of us can remember back that
far to when this all was actually happening.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
So I'm looking at some older photos of pat Riley
now with the Lakers. Looks nothing like how Adrian Brody's
character is, at least portrayed in the photos that I'm
seeing in winning time.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, just yeah, I'm out final determination out.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Maybe pat Riley has made the hairdo or the look
or something trademark.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
They couldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
He hasn't. He hasn't.
Speaker 8 (35:08):
It's actually alluded to in the first episode here of
season two that he's he hasn't done it yet, that
he's gonna slick his.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Hair back, which is odd because that's the patent pat Riley, look.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Right, he hasn't got that yet, He's not.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
That's what like says championship to me. I see pat Riley,
I see the slip back here of my championships.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So what did what did he put in his hair?
Is that gel? Or is that just?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Is that what he said?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
You you would know you're you're a hair product fanatics.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
It was mostly well, that's what they've alluded to in
the first episode of the season is.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Who knew that?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
There you go?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
What else we got?
Speaker 8 (35:44):
You know, talking about traveling. I just updated my passport.
I'm super happy about that because I might because you know,
if you're in or out on this. The Lachness Center
in Scotland plans a new search for its elusive monster,
what's been described as the biggest search for the Lochness
monsters into the nineteen seventies. They're asking all monster investigators
to come out.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Didn't they determine it out on this? Didn't they determine
that whoever that was that was supposed to be the
lockedest monster was some drunk who put a sock puppet
on and reached out from under the water, like I
swear to got it.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
I'm almost positive that's not how they discredited it.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I'm actually in on this because I want to put
the bed. Whether or not this thing is real or
if it's not, that's all I care about. Let's find
this thing, all right.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
August twenty seventh in Scotland. Yeah, might make my way
over there.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Why, oh, you're good because you're going to be in
town or something that might.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Be you know, yeah, I can see that happening.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Okay, mock monster.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Some guy it puts on a scoobaut fit, like you
can clearly see when he when the hand is coming
up out of the water.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
You can see part of the guy's snorkel as well too.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Gotcha. Crap? I think that was the porno you were
watching monster the way?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Had you?
Speaker 8 (36:58):
I don't know if you guys are in or out
on gender reveals? Yeah, no, you I knew that where
that was going. But Serena Williams used drones to reveal
the gender of her second child, you know, cool, Yeah,
it is kind of cool. You ever see the you know,
drones go in the sky and they spell something out
or make a picture or whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Is that what they did?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, that's what they did.
Speaker 8 (37:16):
The drones went up three two one, and it was uh,
I think it's a girl.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, it was a girl.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Very cool, very cool, very cool.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Yeah, I'm in on that. That's a new neat way
of doing it. I haven't heard that before.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Out.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Yeah, that's about right.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Feels feels invaded. I'd rather have the Locknest monster announce
my child. That's what I'd rather have. You know, we're
gonna play that game drones wait to be relatable.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Hey, how'd you guys announce what the gender was? Oh?
We had drones fly around?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
What's the matter? Couldn't get ahold, couldn't get a hold
of the space shuttle? Was that tied up from last
week's birthday party?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Dumb?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
What else we got? Lee, guys? In and out?
Speaker 8 (37:54):
Of course, uh Burger chain out here on the West
coast is in litigation with a fake in and out
an een out in Mexico in e, which is spelled I,
but it pronounced e in uh in Spanish in e
not out. Well in Mexico is and well, iy no
(38:20):
I is pronounced e in e.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
No, but it's the letter why in our language. That's
why would be.
Speaker 8 (38:28):
And yeah, no I, I hear what you're saying, but
I'm just telling you what it looks like in Spanish
and how it's pronounced till in.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
What's the problem here, It's it's a ripoff.
Speaker 8 (38:39):
It's got everything you you would find in irregular in
and out. It's got the burgers, the fries, the booths,
the trays.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
I'm in, I'm in, I love it.
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event over the weekend. Oh yeah, what was that little
Jake Paul representing the great state of Ohio. Huh, that's right,
(01:29):
getting it done, getting it done?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
How was brother by the way coming to see him?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
He left the WWE event Summer Slam in Detroit. It
was the first match of their pay per view or
premium live event is what they call it now, and
he hopped on a private jet after his match, didn't
even shower, flew straight to Dallas and got there in
(01:54):
time to be able to walk out with him and
watch watch his pepate Nate Diaz. Yeah, pretty awesome. It
also helped that the fight started well after midnight Eastern time.
There's also that Yeah, I mean, come on, what are
we doing here?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's how I always used to be. I remember every
main event back in the day.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Like Tyson holy Field, like all that, you had to
stay up late to be able to watch.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I didn't realize that of the difference in that until
I watched pay per view a fight, I think it
might've been a UFC fighter, It could have been a
boxing But when I lived in South Carolina, the difference
between everything ending at one am Eastern time and everything
ending at about ten pm on the West Coast drastic
(02:37):
because on the West Coast, you finish up nine to
forty five ten o'clock, then you go out to the bars,
you hop on some moar liverlube, you start to eat
a crack and a couple of jokes, and it turns
into a fun night of three hours of fights, three
hours at the bar.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
It's a fun night.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Instead, on the East Coast, all you got is the
three hours of the fights and then you got to
go home because most people were doing last call. It's unfortunate, gotta.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Be honest, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
And most people have like a watch party for it too, though,
so you're kind of out partying while you're there.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean I prefer the West Coast.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Well, let me ask you this, would this have been
a fight that was worthy of a big party for it?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, I think. Look, the fight wasn't awful and people
could say whatever they want and dismiss it and say, well,
it's Jake Paul and Logan Paul and they're not Look,
they're legitimate athletes, all right, these guys. It's not like
Jake Paul can't fight at all, all right, It's not
like he's Tim Anders.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So he's proved.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I didn't know my mic was on. Sorry about that,
oh man.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And we will be hearing one of the great calls
of all time coming up later on here this hour.
Just a tremendous call later this hour. But I just
look at it. I go good for these guys and
the fact that this fight between Jake Paul and Nate
Diez has a chance to outdo the Crawford Spence from
(04:11):
a week earlier, which is the modern day Paqiao Mayweather
that did six hundred and fifty thousand buys. I'm fascinated
to see how many people bought Jake Paul Nate Diaz, Like,
I'm really curious because the crowd was electric, man, people
were fired up about it. It looked like it was
a sellout in Dallas. And so just to see the
whole presentation, I think it's gotten better and better. I
(04:34):
think he's gotten better and better what it turns into,
who knows. But look, there's a ten million dollar offer
on the table to Nate Dz to do an MMA
fight now, so there's not like they're throwing around chump change.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
People are getting.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Oh I mean, look, Jake, Paul, Logan, Paul, those guys
are going to be able to get whoever they want
to come fight them and you know, box them.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And because they could draw the interest, right, they can
get the money.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
They can draw the interest of fans and people for
pay per view, and they've been able to figure out
that model. They've been able to, you know, help kind
of bring back boxing to a degree now for boxing enthusiasts.
They may not love it that they've got an outsider
who's come in is trying to take up the sport,
but you gotta give him lot of credit. I mean,
he does work his tail off. He wisely chooses his opponents.
(05:20):
Which let's be real, it's not like the boxing community
doesn't do the exact same thing to build up a
fighter's record before he gets a title shot. Okay, promoters
have always done this, So like, let's let's get off
our high horse here. Okay, he's doing something very similar
he's enticing guys who don't have a you know, a
boxing background, but maybe a fighting history or background to
try to come take him on. And as he's gotten
(05:41):
better and has you know, grown in the profession, he's
he's fighting more legitimate fighters.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I guess you could say, so I.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Am curious to see, you know, if you know, when
things will will get to a point where he's got
on some more legitimized guys in the boxing world. And
it's not guys who are you know, mixed martial art
artists who are trying to come over and box for
the first time. But look, it was an entertaining fight
to a degree. You got the sense though that and
(06:10):
maybe this is more the concern I have is, you know,
Nate Diaz is a showman.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He's one of the most fun mixed martial artists.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
To watch fight, although there was a little you know,
showmanship that came along with it, and at times I
kind of was watching a thing And is he really
trying to knock him out or is this more just
like exhibition belt right? And I don't know that, you know,
behind the scenes, there's not a wink nod agreement like hey,
let's make sure this goes the way we hope it's
gonna go.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Like I think that for people that haven't seen a
lot of Nate Diaz fights, him and his brother Nick
Diez are legends off the UFC, so much fun to watch.
Neither one of them has won a title, like, neither
one of them was a UFC champion, But the reason
they're legends is because they would do stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It would be in the middle of the fight.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
They would call it the Stockton slap, where in the
middle of a fight they would just slap a guy.
I was like, wait, what, they can't really do that,
but they would just do it. Nate Diaz had a
guy in a triangle, which is a submission where you're
on your back and your legs are wrapped around his
neck and his shoulder and it's it's it's a choke
and it's you know, one of the oldest, you know
(07:17):
submissions in jiu jitsu and mma to it. Probably did
it when he was taking jiu jitsu this offseason to
try and recover from concussions. Still can't get any clarity
as to whether or not it was judo or jiu jitsu,
but point being, Nate Diaz strapped one of those on
a guy and in the middle of the fight, is
he was getting ready to make the guy tap, just
threw up two middle fingers.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It's like, that's just what they do.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And they don't think they've ever lost a fight, even
if they technically lose a fight, if they got taken
down a bunch, in their eyes and in their mind,
they still won because they won while the fight was standing, right, Like,
that's just that's just the way it is.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Tough.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, they're awesome, and it's it's a bloodbath, it really
is usually and and anyway, look that the.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Fight was what it was.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
It you know, I didn't really expect to see Jake
Paul get knocked down or have him not win. He
was a heavy favor going into it. The old meat
Wagon asked me before he placed the bet. He's like,
what are you thinking for this? He's like, why is
Jake pull such a heavy favor. I was like, well,
he's a legitimate boxer, professional boxer now and Nadiaz is
in his first professional fight, and I think there's a
(08:26):
pretty strong indication that these fights are supposed to go
a certain way. And so like the meat Wagon would
do he he bet, he bet he'd bet on Nadia.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
By what did he get it at? Like plus three
sixty or something like that, something like that.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
He really didn't share much more information.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, and that was the other thing. It wasn't like
nay Die's was was going to hurt him. They're all
about output and they outpaced an out cardio. Everybody do,
the Diz Brothers, but they're not They're not one punch
knockout artist. They've had a couple in their career. I
think Nick Diez knocked out Robbie Lawler early in his career,
but those are with four ounce gloves in boxing. I mean,
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you're what ten ounce gloves twelve ounce gloves. It just
it wasn't like he was going to knock him out,
So it went the way it went. But all in
all entertaining fight. And you know, big night for the
Paul brothers.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Big night for the Paul brothers. They get the big win.
There's some other big wins over this past weekend.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, huge college huge wins. Not by the PAC twelve
though definitely not by the PAC twelve. That is, that
is not a big win for the PAC twelve, but
a big win for some of the other conferences who
have let the PAC twelve kind of, you know, saw
its own foot off and try and walk around afterwards.
And you've got, you know, the Big twelve, and you've
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got the Big ten that are grabbing a bunch of teams.
Somebody's got to save Oregon State. There's nothing better than
betting on late night games in Core Vallas on a
Saturday night while you're waiting for Hawaii came too.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Are good friends up there on Pullman, Washington, Washington State,
you know, Oregon State, both really unique, awesome places. And
you feel for those student athletes because that's the unfortunate
part that's gotten taken out of their hands is there's
only four teams left in the PAC twelve right now.
And if you're a coach, a player who's a part
of any of those athletic programs, you're concerned because you
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went there thinking you're going to be part of a
Power five conference, or at least a part of the
PAC twelve, which is a more legitimate conference. And now
I'm not sure if they try to take teams from
the Mountain West, if they get absorbed by the Mountain
I mean, at this point, the Mountain West has more
power than the PAC twelve does. Yeah, and so you know,
they run the risk of losing the rest of the
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teams that are in the conference, maybe to the PAC twelve,
maybe not, or somewhere else. But either way, it's not
a good position of being if you're one of those
four schools.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Just to see what's happened to the PAC twelve. And
this isn't an indictment on everybody, because there's a lot
of people who are passionate about playing for their school
or passionate about their alma mater, who really care and
you know, look, call it, we'll just keep it at football.
Football means a lot to them. But there is a
reality and people out here on the West Coast can
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get pissed about this all they want, they can get
upset about this, but this is a fact and we've
talked about it. It just matters more in other parts
of the country. And this is a microcosm of what
has been an issue to where the interest level. Look,
you do big noon kickoff, you go to stadiums that
are packing one hundred thousand people there, you go to
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certain places in the PAC twelve and it's like, eh,
that's cool, Like, yeah, you know, maybe we're fired up
about it, maybe we're not. And as somebody who was
born and raised in southern California, I didn't really get
it until I went and saw college football elsewhere. And
then you go to the SEC and you go to
some of these other places and you realize it's on
another level. And it's why when COVID hit, look you
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at what Justin Fields was out marching and protesting trying
to get a season back. You had Greg Sanki and
the SEC trying to come up with solutions and coming
up with plans. CC had a plan, Notre Dame had
a plan, like everybody had a plan, and the PAC
twelve was like hold on, everybody, wait, like hold on here,
and you've got players in and around the PAC twelve.
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They're looking around, going we'd like to play. Can we
get an opportunity? And just from the top all the
way to the bottom, it just felt like the beginning
of the end, and here we are they got four
teams left as the season's approaching, So after this upcoming year,
who the hell knows what's going to happen to the conference.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
That approach you're mentioning that like, let's wait, we don't
want to be a first mover in that right. That
not only displayed itself during COVID, it displayed itself with
the media rights deal before that. We talked about you know,
Larry Scott back and was at twenty seventeen and even
you know this year with George Kleevekoff and the way
he had handled those negotiations letting the Big twelve get
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to a media right steal before him, which then limits
the amount of windows you can even be in and
really your leverage too if those networks already have another conference.
But that strategy and not prioritizing football, which is ultimately
what you're tapping into, was ultimately the demise of the
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PAC twelve. And people who are PAC twelve enthusiasts can
challenge me on this, but what you said is true.
And I think whether it's Kirk kurb Street and Game
Day or me and anyone else on our crew, a
big new kickoff, you do get a big a different
feel when you go across the country and see these
different places where.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Football is a way of life.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
And football has been very fruitful to many of the
universities who've embraced it and instead of, you know, trying
to promote yourself as the conference of Champions and how
many Directors Cup trophies you've won, which have traditionally been
something like the PAC twelve and Stanford in particular, have
been really competitive in You've missed the boat on the
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economics of how this is all.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Going to work.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And I think a lot of people who are frustrated
with what's happening in college sports are saying, well, this
is unfair to the student athletes and this is all
about a money grab. Well, okay, but you could make
that argument with anything in America. It's a free market.
Anytime a company grows scale sells out Right, what was
a money grab?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Right?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
What was it really about what they were doing, what
product they were producing, what service they were providing, or
was it about money?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
It's always about money.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And the problem with the PAC twelve is they didn't
want to prioritize one specific sport like the SEC, like
the Big Ten and some of the others have done
because they understood the revenue model. And so what becomes
difficult now and what a lot of people who are
upset about me or anyone else saying it's Okay, it
was a money grab. Is understanding what's coming down the pipeline.
(14:51):
There's a world that exists where football, men's and women's basketball,
which are the revenue driving sports, aren't a part of
these schools. Yeah, hypothetically speaking, you could make the case
that they could be looked at as a minor league
or professional sport where they're licensing back the rights to
use the logo and the mascot, the trademark, all these
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things back to the school. And so then the question becomes, well,
if they're no longer considered student athletes and they're in
this professional world, which there's a lot of moving parts
to get to that point, what happens to the rest
of sports, what happens to the rest of the Olympic sports?
And who's going to pay for him? If you don't
have that revenue coming in from the revenue driving sports
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and football and men's WiM's basketball, you're running out of
deficit and you're now putting more pressure on the school
to figure out how they're going to fund those and
so they either have to drop those programs and they
become club sports which are privately funded through donors, or
the university has to come up with other ways of
being able to and maybe from the licensing and trademark fees, etc.
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That they take from that that would fund those sports,
but they may have to drop some sports. And then
you have to factor entitled into all of this and
how you go about supplying equal scholarships because you know,
for at least for women's sports, you have eighty five
less scholarships now that are no longer there that you
have to match on.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
The women's sports side with football not being there.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So there's so many different moving parts and questions that
come up. But it's crazy to me when I hear
people talk about how oh this is, you know, the
greed and money. Okay, I understand that, but do you
want these sports to survive? Exactly, because if they're going
to survive, these universities had to find a way of
being able to not only remain competitive, but provide the
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student athletes with what they need in order to be
able for their scholarship and their travel expenses everything else.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
And so this is a decision they were kind of forced.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Into because of the lack of leadership of university presence,
in particular in the PAC twelve of Larry Scott.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So that's what's got us here.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
But people who are sitting there, like, you know, condemning
the fact that's a money Okay, show me show me
somewhere where it's not. But show me some industry in
the United States where it's not a money.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Grap you know, it's that's a money grab. How could they?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
By the way, can you give me a two dollars
quick pick on the one point five mega millions that's
going on.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Everything is a money grab. That's the whole point.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But my favorite part about just the PAC twelve network
and all that. So last year, you remember when USC
played Oregon State early in the season. It was a
really great game, great game.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Great game, I wouldn't say almost pulled that thing off, yes,
or a ridiculous throw by Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
So I just remember the hoops that I had to
jump through just to be able to watch that game.
And I live in California and I couldn't find the
game and I had to like, you got to go
to this and go to and I'm thinking to myself,
you've got two undefeated teams, one of them is seventh
in the country, and you've got to go through all
(17:55):
of this just to be able to watch that wouldn't
happened in the Big Ten, that wouldn't happen in the SEC.
It just it was so small time nickel and dime,
and it was a phenomenal game between USC and Oregon
State in Core Vallas that went down to the wire.
It just none of that stuff happens in these other places.
(18:17):
Like if Alabama's seventh in the country and they're playing
another undefeated team from the conference, I know where I'm
going to be able to watch it. I know when
it's going to be on same with the Big Ten.
But it just felt like that was the PAC twelve,
and that was a microcosm for the PAC twelve and
what was soon to be the end of the PAC twelve,
which is now.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Are we calling it the pack?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Four?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
By the way, is that.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
We're going calling four pack? Probably sounds what do I
think at this point? We need to put those four
teams ahead of the pack or whatever comes.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
After that the four pack.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I'm just saying that maybe the four pack probably sounds
better at this point.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I don't mean to make light of it or joke
about it, As I said before, I do feel for
all the student athletes and the coaches. But as we
also portrayed in the first hour, you know, when when
I was at least comparing the Big twelve and what
those teams that have now moved to the Big twelve
and what their travel schedule looks like, it's not as
drastically different as you would have thought.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Now again for Oregon, Washington.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
USC and UCLA, those schools are going to be much
more impacted by their travel heading to the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
It's a different conversation.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
But what the difference with that is those schools are
also getting compensated more now, maybe not Oregon and Washington
because of when they got in. Eventually they will though
once they get to the new TV METEA rites deal.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But at this juncture we're going to Washington.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Made a decision where they feel like that was in
their best interest moving forward in order to supply the
necessary funding to the student athletes and keep their programs intact.
And it's harder to have an issue with that because
of such bad leadership that you saw from the PAC twelve.
And so you know, again some people are going to
express concern for these student athletes, and I think there
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is a concern for baseball and softball and volleyball and
all these other sports, and how it's going to work out.
I trust the people who are involved in this that
being able to put together a plan that won't be
quite as burdensome. And I also would say to a
lot of people out there that our recollection. The people
who are my age, older people who are largely speaking
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out against us that have issues with it, they've apparently
missed on what's happened in academia.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
There's a lot of stuff online now. Man.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
All these schools have adjusted, especially in undergrad to being
online and so that they can make a lot of
the adjustments they need to with online curriculum and courses
in order to satisfy the degree requirements. And so it's
not as big of a concern as I think it
would have been had we not gone through COVID and
had all these changes to how what curriculum looks like now.
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There cause for concern for two quarterbacks in the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (21:11):
App Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
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have another edition of a Uni you out where we
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We have to make some hard decisions here on the air,
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apparently Jimmy Garoppolo has struggled a little bit at practice.
We've also seen some stuff with Baker Mayfield at practice
as well too. There's been some interceptions that have been
thrown Jimmy Garoppolo, I believe through seven interceptions over a
couple of different practices. There's been some stuff about Baker
mayfield struggles as well too. He even spoke about it
(21:57):
himself recently. I think last week he talked about just yeah,
you know, I had a little bit of a rough practice,
but things got better the following practice. So we're at
the point now during training camp where people are doing
practice grades and now reporting it publicly to the media,
and now you've got head coaches who have to speak
about it afterwards.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
This is always fun. This is always a fun time
of year.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
And the tough thing for me and hearing this is
for like fans who overanalyze this, well.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
When do you want them to throw the interceptions?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
You know, do you want to throw in practice where
they're getting acquainted to a new offense like Baker Mayfield is,
or you know, new surroundings if you're Jimmy g and
coming off of an injury. I mean, there's all sorts
of different things that play a factor into quarterback play
and decision making and what the end result looks like.
(22:47):
So for these guys, you'd rather them take their risks.
You'd rather them take their learning lessons or their lumps
in practice as opposed to once they get into a
live game scenario. I mean, the good thing for Baker
Mayfield is I don't think for the Buck fans out
there now. Granted, after Jamis Winston you walk into a
Super Bowl, Tom Brady and the you know, the greatest
quarterback of all time playing for you.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
You know, so those are tough shoes to fill.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I don't think he's gonna throw thirty plus interceptions now,
I'm just I'm just gonna go out there on a
limb and say I think Baker will be alright, he
gets in.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
There, you're gonna make it. It's a bold, bold prediction, Lee,
Can we please?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah? Seth a that I don't I don't know. I
don't think.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
And and here's part of the reasoning rationale. If he
throws too many top boles just gonna take him out.
He's not going to give Baker Mayfield a chance to
be able to equate to thirty plus interceptions.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Do you think anybody will ever throw thirty interceptions ever?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Again, I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Know, man, It's it's it's hard to imagineally because there's
not many coaches that would have that sort of tolerance.
You know, that was such a rare thing with Bruce
arians and and just his tolerance for the constantly pushing
the ball and bring aggressive downfield. I mean, Jamis threw
for a five thousand yards.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
That's ye. People tend to.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Forget this, like he didn't throw for over thirty touchdowns
as well in five thousand yards. It's hard to do.
And so with those risks downfield, you're going to have
some interceptions of bad plays, and there's a you know,
there's a fair amount of those two that weren't necessarily
on him.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
You know, there's other things that caused it.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
But again, the point is people tend to overreact this
time of.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Year this sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
In both cases for Tampa and Las Vegas, I think
you've got some bigger questions outside of just the quarterback spot.
Where where where are these teams at Are they rebuilding,
are they reloading or they trying to survive and hang on.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
It's not like we're picking either of these teams to
win their division.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
And in the case of Tampa, I think it's a
bit unfairly because they still do have a good roster
and if they can get Baker Mayfield to play the
way he did during his peak in Cleveland, I think
there'll be a more competitive team than we're giving him
credit right now.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I mean, Davante Adams just got to be looking around
going what happened? Yeah, he just got there last March,
and now that he's there, his friend, the quarterback he
wanted to play with, Derek Carr is gone, Waller's gone,
Josh Jacobs maybe gone. Who the hell knows how this
(25:16):
is going to finish up. Like DeVante Adams, it's not
what he signed up for.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
He's going to be looking around going.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That's why I can understand if he's not for long
with the Las Vegas Raiders. And I can understand as
much as he wanted to go there and be closer
to the West Coast and he loved Las Vegas. I
could when you hear his frustrations earlier this offseason and
just sort of talking about, you know, I'm not really
sure what our plan is. I'm not really sure what's going.
(25:45):
Like you know, normally, you know, a player talks out
against his front office and goes public with that stuff,
and it's like, all right, what are you doing? Keep
that behind closed doors. I kind of get it in
his case, because this is nothing close to what he
imagined it was going to be when he when he
decided he wanted to go elsewhere and they made the
trade happen.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Well, I mean, he did sign a contract that gave
him about sixty five almost sixty six million guaranteed total guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, that's I mean that plays a factor.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I mean, the Raiders aren't moving on from him, and
I think if he was to go somewhere else, because
they've got him under contract for at least the next
four years, you'd have to say they could find a
sooner excuse me, a suitor because of his talent as ability.
But you've got to be able to to you know,
work out that contract, and that's not necessarily easy to absorb.
(26:34):
He's going to cost you, you know, average annual value
about twenty five million at least north of that this year,
and it probably averages I want to say it averages
around that, you know, per season over the life of it.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You know what I want to know, And you would
probably know this better than obviously anybody else, especially me
here on the show. But when you're a coach or
a quarterback and you had a couple of interceptions that
you threw him practice and then you've got to answer
questions about it from the media at practice in August,
(27:07):
I'd love to know what the discussion is like after
you finish doing the interview and you're very kind about everything.
If you're a coach or a quarterback, or you've got
to be thinking to yourself.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Why am I having to talk about this? What does
it matter?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
I mean, you do the best you can to answer
the questions that you're asked, but honestly, you're just trying
to get out of the interview. As a player or
a coach, you're just trying to get past it, not
creating distractions, move forward. You don't really care if the
outside knows that there was a mis route, a misread,
a miscommunication. Maybe it was something with the protection that
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caused things to change. There's just there's so many things
that play a part in what happens on any given
play that you don't really care to communicate all of that.
There's not going to be an understanding of it. They're
not in your meeting rooms breaking down film, understanding the
objective of east play.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It's that's just the truth of it.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
So, you know, kudos to these guys obviously for having
thick skin having.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
To deal with it, owning up to it too.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
When you have a bad practice, Yeah, we had a
bad practice, you know, and obviously you know I'm fired
up to get out there. You know tomorrow or to
get out there the next time we get out there
to improve upon it. It's really all you can say.
You can't change the past or the result of it.
So it's I would just say this to all the
fans out there, if you're a Raiders fan or you're
a Buccaneers fan, just it's let's just get to the season.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
You see what things look like.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
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You never see Jose Ramirez get upset like that.
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What really what really was awesome about it outside of
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Capturing that moment.
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Day fishing some of his boxing matches.
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Look, I mean, not the greatest technique in the world,
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and conn Anderson, and Anderson went down was wobbled and
he was he was Although I will say this, this
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I really thought Tim Anderson with the first punchy three,
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is more like glancing. Yeah, man, Tim Anderson took that
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Speaker 3 (33:36):
How was season one?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Season one was really good? I liked it a lot.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I'll have to give it a give it a shot.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I don't want to have much time to watch the
TV coming up here shortly, so I've got a I
think a long trip planned. I'm not sure it's gonna
come to fruition, but maybe I can watch on that
long trip.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, I'm out, and you want to know why?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Because I don't want the guy from the Pianist to
be pat Riley.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
That's why Adrian Brodie. Yeah, what are we doing here?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I like, I know who the real power casting is.
That's it because he can slick his hair back.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, I can't a lot of actors do that. Probably.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
I just he doesn't have the biggest role through season
one and so far in season two because I'm not
quite he's not the head coach yet of the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I struggle with watching sports documentaries or sports shows about
stuff that we all kind of watched ourselves, Like, I
can't get over that. That's not Magic Johnson, that's not
Larry Bird, that's not pat Riley. We know who all
those people are. Some of us can remember back that
far to when this all was actually happening.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
So I'm looking at some older photos of pat Riley
now with the Lakers. Looks nothing like how Adrian Brody's
character is, at least portrayed in the photos that I'm
seeing in winning time.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, just yeah, I'm out final determination out.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Maybe pat Riley has made the hairdo or the look
or something trademark.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
They couldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
He hasn't. He hasn't.
Speaker 8 (35:08):
It's actually alluded to in the first episode here of
season two that he's he hasn't done it yet, that
he's gonna slick his.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Hair back, which is odd because that's the patent pat Riley, look.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Right, he hasn't got that yet, He's not.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
That's what like says championship to me. I see pat Riley,
I see the slip back here of my championships.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So what did what did he put in his hair?
Is that gel? Or is that just?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Is that what he said?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
You you would know you're you're a hair product fanatics.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
It was mostly well, that's what they've alluded to in
the first episode of the season is.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Who knew that?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
There you go?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
What else we got?
Speaker 8 (35:44):
You know, talking about traveling. I just updated my passport.
I'm super happy about that because I might because you know,
if you're in or out on this. The Lachness Center
in Scotland plans a new search for its elusive monster,
what's been described as the biggest search for the Lochness
monsters into the nineteen seventies. They're asking all monster investigators
to come out.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Didn't they determine it out on this? Didn't they determine
that whoever that was that was supposed to be the
lockedest monster was some drunk who put a sock puppet
on and reached out from under the water, like I
swear to got it.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
I'm almost positive that's not how they discredited it.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I'm actually in on this because I want to put
the bed. Whether or not this thing is real or
if it's not, that's all I care about. Let's find
this thing, all right.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
August twenty seventh in Scotland. Yeah, might make my way
over there.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Why, oh, you're good because you're going to be in
town or something that might.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Be you know, yeah, I can see that happening.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Okay, mock monster.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Some guy it puts on a scoobaut fit, like you
can clearly see when he when the hand is coming
up out of the water.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
You can see part of the guy's snorkel as well too.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Gotcha. Crap? I think that was the porno you were
watching monster the way?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Had you?
Speaker 8 (36:58):
I don't know if you guys are in or out
on gender reveals? Yeah, no, you I knew that where
that was going. But Serena Williams used drones to reveal
the gender of her second child, you know, cool, Yeah,
it is kind of cool. You ever see the you know,
drones go in the sky and they spell something out
or make a picture or whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Is that what they did?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, that's what they did.
Speaker 8 (37:16):
The drones went up three two one, and it was uh,
I think it's a girl.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, it was a girl.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Very cool, very cool, very cool.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Yeah, I'm in on that. That's a new neat way
of doing it. I haven't heard that before.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Out.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Yeah, that's about right.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Feels feels invaded. I'd rather have the Locknest monster announce
my child. That's what I'd rather have. You know, we're
gonna play that game drones wait to be relatable.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Hey, how'd you guys announce what the gender was? Oh?
We had drones fly around?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
What's the matter? Couldn't get ahold, couldn't get a hold
of the space shuttle? Was that tied up from last
week's birthday party?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Dumb?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
What else we got? Lee, guys? In and out?
Speaker 8 (37:54):
Of course, uh Burger chain out here on the West
coast is in litigation with a fake in and out
an een out in Mexico in e, which is spelled I,
but it pronounced e in uh in Spanish in e
not out. Well in Mexico is and well, iy no
(38:20):
I is pronounced e in e.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
No, but it's the letter why in our language. That's
why would be.
Speaker 8 (38:28):
And yeah, no I, I hear what you're saying, but
I'm just telling you what it looks like in Spanish
and how it's pronounced till in.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
What's the problem here, It's it's a ripoff.
Speaker 8 (38:39):
It's got everything you you would find in irregular in
and out. It's got the burgers, the fries, the booths,
the trays.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
I'm in, I'm in, I love it.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
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