August 21, 2023 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple.
Joe with Lamar Rings and Rating Winn and Jonas Knox
on four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Jonas, before you get to what you want to talk about, Yeah,
can we give a congratulations to a Spana Spain.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
For women, the women, the women's.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Yeah, I mean congratulations Spain World Cup champions. They beat
England won to nothing.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
He was very excited about that.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I mean, why you are excited? Jonas? Yeah, what's up? Jonas?
I told everybody you told the world, you know earlier.
Why why you told him?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Why?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I mean you might as well, Jonas.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I mean, listen, congratulations to Spain and the Spanish women. Yeah,
you know, winning the World Cup.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
But there has to be someone to hate on it.
And yeah, no one better than you?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Right well, No, I don't have any I don't have
any buddies. Actually I do have a buddy, who's.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Rob Stone's over there? Rob Stone. They picked England.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Rob was struggling with some of his picks over there.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
But they picked England to win. But Carly Lloyd did
she pick Spain? She saw it coming the whole time.
She picked them before the tournament.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Now do you guys, they've got to be so relieved
to come home. I mean, Australia is beautiful, but they've
been out there a long time.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You've been there before, have you been?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But I mean it's.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
From what you've read, what you hear.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Like it looks pretty cool out there, but you're away
from home for how many weeks? What like over like
a month and a half on assignment out there for
the World Cup. Like I would think you'd want to
come home, Rob rob Stone at this point, he's ready
for football season.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
You know, you kick off, he's asking for some shrimp
on the barbie.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Was an awful accent.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Sorry I don't have an Australian accent, so no, you
got an.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I don't know, good day.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
You might see it's solid.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I watched Crocodile dun Day, you know a little bit.
That's about it for.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
The dingo ate your baby.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
What what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Oh? Yeah, that's that's it. Crocodile. I'm trying to do
my blue impression.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's been basically the only place since Crocodile Dundee I've
heard of an Australian accents.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah. What you just referenced though, was was was pat
carry or Jim Jim Carrey, don't and dumb and dumber?
What would you like some shrimp on the barbie stupid? Well?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, congratulations yea Spain inter Miami.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Because people people said, when we don't acknowledge like all
the things that are happening in the sports old So
I always feel like if we just we get it
in here and there, it's.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Like, okay, we're good.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
All right, we talked about it, we gave we gave
our very educated sports opinion on it.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah, and then four years from now we'll break down,
you know, the the Spanish soccer teams potential win at
another World Cup.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know we'll do that.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
You know, everything is covered here, So now we got
it all locked in, everything's figured out.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I thought you were going to say congratulations in Spanish,
given your bilingual skills.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah. I thought he was going to bring it back
to messy personally, but I guess no, it's not.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
There's a messy. The part timer. Yeah there you mister
part time.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Whatever his part time is is better than most of.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
How many is he going to get like like one
fourth of a ring? They have like a one fourth
of it? And then there's elastic.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Do you have a goal in every game lead that
at this point, I believe all but one.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, pretty uh maybe every one of them. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
How many shootouts? Did it take? Penalty shots for ten? Yeah?
Well that's cool.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
How about So what's you trying to say, Jonas?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I mean, I feel like Rinaldo could have done it
in five. But again, you know that's yeah. People want
to people want to fan boy over messy.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Hey, what what's it like living as a natural hater? Though? Like?
What's that? What's that feel like?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Like?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
How does that like when you wake up in the morning,
do you do you like, spin out a bid, put
both your feet down on Like, today's the perfect day
to hate.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I walk around with a wand and I sprinkle hate dust.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's what I knew today. I think today, I think
I'll just dish out so many insults towards this person
in particular.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think they called that like PCP in the movie Friday.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
A Year of War, the Angel dust so yeah with
smoky Yeah, and ever since then, I be telling Hector,
I love what he's like. Dust off his shoulder. I
had to go get my mama, had to go give
me what. Yeah, Jonas, I don't like it. I need
(05:17):
to go. Yeah, somebody's got to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Somebody got Jonas, are you hating on when a guy
like Aaron Rodgers, who's a first Ball Hall of Famer,
decides to play in the last preseason game?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
You hat on that decision.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I'm glad you brought that up, because no, I'm not
hating on that decision. I'm a little surprised by the
decision at this point. What's the point? Why don't you
just get to the regular season and then roll this
thing out there to open up the year against the
Bills on Monday Night. But that is the plan. According
to a source, that Rogers is going to play in
the Jets' final preseason game coming up next weekend against
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the Giants. And so, if you're wondering, when is this
whole thing at a start for Aaron Rodgers and the
Jets in an actual game, it's coming up this this
weekend here for the Genets.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Can I present why it concerns me?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Well, did he get tweaked in practice? He tweaked his
ankle or.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Calf couple of times.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He's got big calves though, so he's always susceptible to
a calf injury. That's one of the blessings of not
having very big calves is cant injur.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Something you don't have.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So and Jonas, you and I are in the small
calf committee. We've talked about this at length.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Bro, My calves are smaller than both. You got small
calves to bro. Have you never seen my calves? That's
why you've never seen. People have probably said, yeah, you know,
oh everybody, I get a leg day joke every day.
I'm like, dude, my legs don't grow. Yeah, but what
do you do calf raises? Like you? You're a squad.
I do squats, I do do toe raises, I do
all of it. They just they don't grow. Yeah, their tone,
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they just don't grow.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But I guess my point is, what's the point He's
already heard it in practice?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Why would you.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Then play in a preseason game that's that close to
Week one, like a meaningful game. You would think that
the second preseason game will be the one that you'd
want to target in the event you did tweak something.
You have a little bit more time to get ready.
Now you might say, hey, I want to knock the
rust off. I'd like to do it closer when I
have to be out there the following week, and so
(07:20):
that's why I'd rather do it then, Okay, I just
I feel like that leaves you a little bit subject
to risk if you maybe could have used an extra
week of time to come back from some sort of injury.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Right. I think that's It's a hard one. That's a
hard one to measure, and the gauge. If everything goes
the way it's supposed to go. You get him in,
he gets a couple reps, he gets out, he gets
the crowd, some good feelings, everything all is good. If
he does get injured, then it's like, why the hell
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did you do it? Just a hard one.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
He's going to hand the ball up a couple of times, like.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well you can't win, right, Like, let's see, is a
great preseason performance? Is anyone really that excited considering Yeah, okay,
like we need this in a regular sesson though it's
always gonna be tempered.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, but you go back to be excited because they
got to see them though. You know how that goes.
I mean that's true. It just you know, that's how
I look at it, like, especially for that market, like
to go through the entire preseason and not give them
just like a like give them.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Just a taste, a little taste you know of what
what you're going to get, not the whole thing, just
a little little bit, and and then.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
That what's your whistle? And then you're you're good? You know? Yeah?
I just I would assume.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
It's still gonna be a couple of weeks before you
play Week one against the Bills on Monday Night, Like,
what is what is whatever he does this game? How
is that going to translate over to anything that happens
two weeks from then on Monday Night against the Bills.
I don't know's You're not gonna You're not gonna replicate
anything like it. Just to me, it feels like, why
(09:01):
run the risk, roll them out there week one. You're
going to work through some kinks and get deal with
some growing pains, and it's gonna happen in real time
during the season. I just don't understand why, like what
this does for getting ready for I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Is it a possibility he just wants to play?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Couldn't He hasn't done this since twenty eighteen, at least
according to a report, which I didn't go back to
verify or check.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
He took a pay cut, so he's doing things that
he wouldn't normally do. Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's possible.
He could just Hey, coach, I want to play Brady.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
You brought this up, I want to say, last week
or the week before that. One of the things with
Rogers and the Packers over the past several years have
been slow starts.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Do you think that is maybe in the back of
his mind, like those slow starts are because I didn't
play it all in the preseason, and so maybe this
would help kind of exercise those humans a little bit
and I can go out there and feel more comfortable
to start off the year, especially Week one against the
Bills on prime time.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Sure, I mean, I think all of it, all of
it could play a role.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You know, even just looking across the field, around the
field and being like, holy hell, I'm more in this
green uniform now and it's a different green than what
I was wearing in Green Bay. Like like all those
things make a difference that they matter, and it sounds small,
and it sounds like, you know, for us on the outside,
we're like, well, how much can it make that big.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Of a difference for him? It could be a huge
difference in.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Providing him confidence and comfort so he can play the
way he's capable of, you know, right out the gate.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
So the slow starts could.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Be something that's he's looking for a solution to. Look,
I'm not sure it's gonna make that big of a difference. Right,
Let's say he plays a series two series and to
your point, mostly hands the football off with those a
few passes. I don't know how of a difference it's
gonna make. He's played so much football in his career,
(11:04):
it's not going to make any difference. A few plays
is not going to make any difference. And I would
venture to say I don't think it exercises the demons
of starting off slow either. I I just think that
that's one of those things. If he start, if they
start off slow, that'll continue to be a part of
mark of his career as teams he's on start slow.
I mean, but I don't there there can't be too
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much of a cursor connected to him playing a few
downs in the last preseason game. I don't think that
that puts anything the rest for him or anything like that.
I would just say, honestly speaking, I mean, why do
you spar right, Like when you go into sparring matches,
that's like a real fight. You're you're, you're, you're trying
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to simulate a real fight.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And so yeah, right, So so by the time you
get to the sin the main fight, like, that's supposed
to be easier. So to me, if if he's going
in there the spar I would say, maybe he's going
in there to see what it feels like to be
the starter for the New York Jets, And that would
totally be it. Like, give your teammates the opportunity to
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see you out there as the starter, give yourself the
opportunity to feel it as the starter in a game
where there there are some jag.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Loons, speedbags one two three, seed bag.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Tripped out, man, Man, I was just.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Trying to match what what what Jonah sounds like?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
What do you say? Oh? Oh, how does he sound? Jonahs?
That's how Jonas sounds. Jonas got soft hands, man, he
don't have them hard by soft boy hands.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
By the way, you know it's not soft.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Oh geez.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And I know we brought this up last week, but
I can't, you know, just to upon taking a closer
look at it, the Jets opening schedule, So you get
the Bills, then you're at the Cowboys, then you get
the Pats at home, then you get the Chiefs at Denver,
and then Philly.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, I mean not easy.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I mean there's a chance there. And again I don't
think this will be the case, but it would not
be outside the realm of possibility to think that maybe
they were one and four going into their bye week.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
I don't know, man, I mean, I think they match
up well with teams.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I agree that d Lie is a beast or two
and four rather, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, two and four heading into the bye week.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's possible with that schedule. But still, now, how much
are it now if you get off to a slow
start and you had those type of teams that early
on in your schedule, how much does that play a
part in that being a slow start that Hannon Rodgers
is having to me, it's not just who's going to
blink at you lose into Kansas City. You know who's
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going to blink at you losing to Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
The Buffalo game to open up the year is going
to be fascinating.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I'm just not I wonder how much of his decision
to play too. Has to do with the schedule early on,
like how important these games are a divisional game out
the gate, and how good some of the you know
opponents are. Again, it's the NFL, so you don't really
ever take any week off. You know, you could sit
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there and say you're playing lesser opponents. That's how you
get beat because the margins of difference aren't as big
as what we perceive them to be on the outsides,
you know, that's why you know, teams end up being closer.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
And we think all the time as far as sports
betting goes.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But I do wonder if he kind of looks at
not so much even like the slow start history, but
the fact that he's not. It's like when he was
in Green Bay, he probably felt at certain points like
he could call it a career whenever he wanted to.
And so when you are the one that ultimately makes
the decision and there's this kind of like finite line
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or there isn't this finite line where you know it's
gonna end, it probably feels different in regards to sense
of urgency. He knows he's there for two years, maybe three,
and that's it, and that's it. So he's got to
do things a little bit different maybe how he did
earlier in his career, to hopefully get the results that
he's looking for and to get a Super Bowl. And
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with the schedule they have, I'm wondering too if that
doesn't play a small portion of the thought process behind it.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yeah, so it's going to be interesting to see how
that plays out. We'll be in Ireland when that preseason
game against the Giants is happening, that's right, Yeah, although
it'll be Uh, what.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Are we going to be doing over there?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I mean, do you think they have LeVar Islands on
an island?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I'm like a variation of it. I'm sure they just
have a a LeVar Island over there. Probably, I'm just
doing whatever, you know, clever once we get there.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Have you been to Ireland? Okay? So Brady, what can
we expect when it comes to cocktail wise? Is it
all the beer?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
I mean the beer is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean, if you like a stout, obviously, Guinness is fantastic,
taste better over there, just how it is. Anything beer
wise you're gonna enjoy and look, i mean Jamison obviously.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Whisky there.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah, no, no, they don't have any of those.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You can go ahead and just just go ahead and
walk home back.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
To the United States from Ireland. If you're an I
p A. I'm just I'm being honest with you, all right,
you know.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But uh, I would say, they'll have all the drinks there,
They'll have all the mixed drinks there for LeVar.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But let me just say that.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I don't need to go mix the nicest people in
the world. They are the nicest people. You will enjoy
yourself as far as like how nice the hospitality everyone
is there, Just the nicest people in the world.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Now, as far as food goes, what's the go to?
We're gonna get some soda bread?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Sure, yeah, you can.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You can play up any sort of traditional Irish Irish
foods if you want a lot of There's still fish
and chips.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Things like that, ham and ham and beef sure or
not not? Not not cabbage, cabbage and beef. Yeah, cabbage
and beef.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I love corn beef. Love me some corn beef.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
You can go ahead and eat every day like it's
uh like I's Saint Patrick's.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I mean, I just want to know. I want to
know what to order, so I don't feel like a horse.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Is it's it's it's a little racist, but it's whatever.
It's all you want to play it. Yeah, no button there,
huh no, no button.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Apparently I'm half Irish.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Just gonna say there we go.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
All right, So there it is. That'll that'll conclude our preview.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
What to eat?
Speaker 5 (17:45):
And here's my question, is what's leg going to eat
over for there?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah, you got your eye on anything.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You want to be around him?
Speaker 7 (17:53):
To be eating bread?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Water is what I'm gonna eating.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
I'm just going to see what's out there.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
God, I cannot be banged up over there.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I just I've seen been out with Lee's socially in
a while, so I like to see old Lee.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
I've been on my best behavior getting ready for this trip.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Lee and I are talking about loose. We're trying to
figure out if we can pull off the no checked
bag feet.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Oh I'm not checking a bag. You guys are going direct.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Thus you've got a much better shot of something making
it even if you check it.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I I do not have that.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Er Lingus did tell us we're hooked up with the
amount of bags we could bring. So that's it's tempting.
But yeah, I'm usually just stick to two bags, especially
my last.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
See I would have like I need to have LeVar
maybe bring some extra clothes if he checks a bag
that I can wear because Jonas is Jonas wears a medium.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
He wears the smallest clothes in the history of the world.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Paint it on.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, like you basically like if they mixed up your
your luggage with a horse jockey.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
No one will be shocked by that.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Not at all.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
I'm just saying it's the exact same size.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
No, listen, I am a firm believer, Like I want
it tight, all right, I like, I want I want
you to be able to look and go all right, Well,
that's clearly somebody who does not believe in in comfort.
He's willing to risk it all for fashion.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
All right, So tight you would think if you look
at the nice luggage, like he bathes in a thimble. Yeah,
like that's what he jumps into for a bathtub.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I mean I'm bringing deep v X, like the type
that you step through the collar.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
To put on the same color. It's great, pretty much.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
What color is that going to be? Yeah, that's come on, Mark,
I mean we're gonna We're gonna take this here. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Every every day is a funeral to Jonas he's just
wearing all black everything.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Every day you wear black, don't you.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well, go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
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Speaker 4 (20:01):
So apparently not everybody in the NFL has figured out
who their starting quarterback is going to be for the
regular season. So let's focus in on the teams that
apparently do not have that decision made. First and foremost
the Houston Texans, because Demiko Ryans is still not ready
to name c J. Stroud the starter.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
C J.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Stroud has been kind of okay, seems like he got
a little bit better this last time around in his
preseason action, but it looks like Demiico Ryans is still
playing this hole. We're having a quarterback competition, Davis Mills CJ.
Stroud as we get ready for the season, so this
will be coming up. All he wanted to point out
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to the media was that, hey, we are going to
have a quarterback Week one against Baltimore, and you guys
will see who that is. So I don't know if
this is another defensive coach kind of playing this quarterback game.
But nonetheless, the Houston Texans still not totally sold, which
I can't imagine. It makes the agent for CJ. Stroud
all that thrilled knowing that he may or may not
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have to take a picture with a quarterback who's going
to be a backup to Davis Mills. Like that's unfortunate
for everybody there. So there's the latest on the Houston Texans,
and then when it comes to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
there was a report that was thrown out there from
Ira Kaufman, who's been covering Tampa Bay for a long time,
that says bar He said that it looks like and
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they've talked internally that Baker Mayfield's going to be the
starting quarterback Week one, and apparently that's not the case.
Mike Evans alluded to that a few days ago. And
now you've got Todd Bowles who's speaking about the situation.
So here was the bucks head coach talking about the
timeline and what to expect with the media when it
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comes to the announcement of QB one for the regular season.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
You have a time people for when you want to
name a starter publicly?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Could this be after the third game and Wheat and
coll after that. We don't have a timetable on it.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
We'll name it when we name it, and you know,
we feel comfortable with where we're at, so we'll go
from there.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
A different kind of playing field with this.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Quarterback battle when one quarterback plays but the other one
doesn't play at all, when you're trying to come up
with who's going to be the starter.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
No, it's not a different kind of playing field. We
monitor everything.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
It's not just preseason games, it's everything that goes through it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
They've both been competing hard.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
We like what both of them do, and we'll go
from there.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
So there's your your latest on the Bucks quarterback situation.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I mean, is he supposed to how else is he
supposed to answer it? Though? C you you.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Know, well, here's what i'd say is by now, and
this is.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Don't get offended when I'm gonna say this, Okay, Dmiko Ryans,
all right, Todd Bowles, what's their background or the offense
or defense?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Defense?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And defensive minded coaches always do this. They always do this.
They have a quarterback competition or they don't want to
name of the starter, and it kind of drags on
and and I understand their perspective. They come from a
different side of the ball where they need to see
the guy do something. They need to see him win
the job. He's got to he's gotta do something in
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a preseason game or training camp to separate himself.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
And he's the one, right The only issue is, like
with CJ.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Strott, you spent the draft pick already, man, like he's
your guy, whether or not you need to see something.
You don't need to see something in preseason. You need
to see something from him in the regular season. And
so you're you're not gonna get to if you're having
him sit and watch a few weeks to then have
Davis Mills start. If that's the track you're on. So
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he's gonna be the guy. I don't know when they're
gonna announce it, and then we'll see what he you know,
what he's capable of doing once he gets out. There's
rookie season and hopefully people are patient. Clearly the Texans
rosters and where it needs to be yet or where
they want it to be in order to be able
to come Pete for an AFC South title. In regards
to Tampa, look, Trask has been there, they drafted him.
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I'm sure there's people in the front office who want
him to have a shot. But you brought in Baker
for a reason. You would have brought in Baker if
you thought Trash could be the heir apparent to Tom Brady.
And so this is just an example of a team
that to me, is going to be in a tough
spot this year. Like, when you let stuff like this
drag on, you're not telling your locker room who the
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guy is.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
You're not telling your.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Locker room the who the leader, at least on the
offensive side of the ball is. And I always feel
like defensive minded head coaches let this stuff drag on
longer than they should or it needs to. And sometimes
they'll tell you that it gives them a greater schematic
advantage or advantage on their opponent because teams don't know
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heading into week one who's going to be the guy
when really, like you've got enough time to scout both
prepare for both Trask and Bayfield aren't that different. And
so I just I always find this to be somewhat
comical because you're you're gonna end up picking one of
the two guys, and in the end it's.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
It's probably not gonna matter all.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
That much, but it's the one you have in mind
to pick, Like you already have them, you already know
what you already know.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
But that's the thing is they feel like there's like
this need to see him, like make some ridiculous player
have some driver. It's like, no, dude, you know what
you need. You needed to get him reps with the
group he's playing with because either he hasn't had any
experience in Kyle's trass case since he's been there because
of Tom Brady's taken all those reps, or Baker Mayfield
just got there. So either one needs to get as
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many reps as possible because there's a lot of other
teams out there that have quarterbacks that have more experience
in the.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
System in the offense.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Now, it just so happens that in the NFC South
has been Riders the one with the most experience, not
saying playing in the NFL, but at least in the division,
right with Derek Carr beying new, Bryce Young being new.
But I'm just stayding like those are advantages that you
miss out on because.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
You're trying to have a quarterback competition. It's like, man,
it's a business.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Like if you brought Baker Mayfield, and you brought him
in because you think his experienced, you think he's got upside.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
You think you can help your team win football games.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Flat out, and there's no reason to let this thing
drag on. You're only hurting your own team at this
point by not allowing the receivers and the offensive line
everyone to mesh and have chemistry with.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Who's going to be the guy. So I just I feel.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Like this is always and ends up being a defensive
lot of head coach or lets this stuff drag on
along that it should, and unfortunately, I think it's going.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
To hurt them this season. You know, it's interesting that
it would be a defensive player to do it, because
it's all about deception. You know. Defensive coordinators, defensive minded
guys are all about less is more or give the
illusion of what it may or may not be. I mean,
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isn't that kind of what's going on in Tennessee too?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I mean, well, Tannehill is the guy, it's more for
the backup spot between Lemons and uh.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
You think it's you think there, you think he's married
to that, that it's going to be him, it's it's
for sure gonna be Tannehill. Well, I guess we guess
for now. I mean at least for the sake of
what this conversation is. Yes, he's the starter, but you know, anyway,
it could end up being someone else that that doesn't
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in Tennessee if you're asking me. But you know, I
really believe with with Bowles, coach Bowles that he's more So,
I don't think this is strategy at this point. I
think that it is a careful approach possibly to what
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he's doing, because I think it is obviously I think
it's Baker Mayfield that he's going to go with, and
I would assume most people would think that it's Baker
Mayfield that he's going to go with and see if
that can work before he you know, pulls the ripcord
on that, because I think it's it's I think it's
an easier sale if you go if you start with
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Baker Mayfield and it doesn't work and you got to
pivot and go in different directions. If you come to
Baker Mayfield after the fact of something not going right.
I think that that doesn't I don't think that's as
easy as seal and so to me, I think he's
going to start with Baker Mayfield, and I think Baker
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is going to have the opportunity to prove that he
can be the starter. And I don't know if he's
not making that readily available or readily known based upon
what he may think of Baker Mayfield based upon what
he's gotten to know of Baker Mayfield. But this could
be one of those situations where he's actually managed it
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based upon the personality traits of the person that he's
he's working with. I don't you know. I don't know.
But as far as with Demiko Ryans, I would say,
go go get it, Like you guys have not been good.
You're a great feel good story. You're you're a native
son of the team. Like, go get it, like I
agree with you wholeheartedly. Like go with Stroud. Let him
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get his lumps and his bumps and his bruises, but
let him get him, you know, and let him let
him have the team, because there's I mean, I don't
know what you drafted. I don't know you guys are
that's why you drafted him. That's why you drafted him.
That is why you drafted him.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Wouldn't if you were one of the teammates, wouldn't you
want to know at this point, like, hey, who's our quarterback?
Like Mike Evans, you know, played it cool, but you
could tell he was kind of frustrated last week. Like
I just you know, looking for some clarity on this.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I just want to know, Like, hey, Jonas, imagine, imagine
you and Q are in a quarterback battle, right, a
tight one too, and you're yeah, and your quarter and
your your receivers like are torn, and and like one
of them starts eating lunch with you and the other
one is eating lunch with Will just does eat lunch,
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So that'd be easy while he's eating attacked while you're
eating peppers and tomatoes like an apple. You're now putting
those receivers in a possible position where it's like, huh, well,
this is my favorite, he's my go to guy, but
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this is who I'm cool with.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
But in the case of c J. Stroud, that's one
of the ones to where when you make the commitment
to him, you're rolling with him this whole year. When
it comes to the Bucks, if you do go with
Mayfield and he struggles just put yeah, put trashkin Like
I don't. It feels like it's it's complicating something that
isn't all that complicated, or.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
You're turning it into a complication. You're turning it into
it like you in a way, you've now turned it
into a focal point. Like you could have minimized it
by just announcing your starter. But I think by continuing on,
because there's going to be the conversation that Tom Brady retiring,
that's the number one conversation connected to it. Boom, all right,
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and then now it's like okay, and they can't even
figure out who they want to put out quarterback. You
could have put kind of that to bid and gave
the team the opportunity, to Q's point, to actually gain
that continuity, gain that trust for one another moving forward,
and to continue to kind of hold it over everyone's
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head and hold them back from having that that opportunity
to bond. I mean that is that's it could be
considered counterproductive for certain Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
It's a little odd, but both teams, by the way,
projected to be non playoff teams this year, so that's
probably a stunning side note to all this, But there's
the there's the update on two teams who apparently haven't
decided who their starting quarterback is going to be in
the season is fast approaching in the NFL.
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Speaker 4 (33:10):
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Speaker 7 (33:10):
In case you missed it, a big update here in
the world for Jim Ersay. The killer whale known as
Lolita has passed.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Don't say it, say it ain't so the last.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Yes, it is a shame. Fifty seven year old orco
that Jim Mersey had pledged twenty million dollars to relocate
from Miami over to the Pacific Ocean to reunite with
its pod tragically has passed away, saving Jim Merseay twenty
million dollars which he can now spend to bring Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Baylee and everybody. Maybe you didn't want to spend.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
That isn't the isn't the whales name Toky. They call
it Lolita Toky Tay, which might be hard for some people.
So the orca was affectionately known as Lolita.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
What yeah, easier to toke tokey there you go.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Ask her.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
It's a sad deal. It is just a sad deal, really, man? Well, yeah, man,
I thought I.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Was gonna be able to make it back into captivity.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
It's fifty seven years old. That hell of a life,
you know, long life has it had a hell of
a life fifty seven years.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
It was just it's been an I mean around for
fifty seven years. This man, it's been a great fifty seven.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
Years captivity for decades, and it's like being given your
walking papers and then you know, getting shanked right before
you're getting out of theree.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Somebody somebody off. I'm telling you that side job. Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Who do you think would have went after the seals
like the Sea Lion exhibit.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
See, I'm gonna say the security for the tree leaners.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Oh, good call, I was gonna say maybe. All right,
do you think they'll question Jonathan Taylor about any of this?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Oh? I don't know. I don't want to give me
an extension. That's Patty. You want to you want to
take my chick takeout for you? Will, I'll take your
black fish? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
So you think that if you're not alive tomorrow and
I'm not in the league, no one cares.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
All right, Well, let's let's say whale. Let's test this
theory out with your whale player.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
By the way, not to connect the dots here, but
how much proportally was Jonathan Taylor asking ballpark million?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
I mean, it's about there, and how.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Much did it? How much does it cost? You're going
to give a whale twenty million, but you ain't gonna
get your star running back exactly.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
You know a lot of connecting the dots here there.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Maybe maybe guys are on a subbe inside job, but it.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Is mthan Taylor. We'll say.
Speaker 10 (35:48):
By the way, after watching the man Cell documentary, anything
fact that, yeah, when his agent admits they're going to
try to make his dad fake a heart attack. At
this point, I don't put anything outside the realm of agents.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I mean, these some of these guys are scummy. I
mean we've already dealt with one earlier. You know, he's
got to take his pictures with all his clients. But
I'm just saying, these these guys will do anything to
make a deal.
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Wow.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Jonas, before you get to what you want to talk about, Yeah,
can we give a congratulations to a Spana Spain.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
For women, the women, the women's.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Yeah, I mean congratulations Spain World Cup champions. They beat
England won to nothing.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
He was very excited about that.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I mean, why you are excited? Jonas? Yeah, what's up? Jonas?
I told everybody you told the world, you know earlier.
Why why you told him?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Why?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I mean you might as well, Jonas.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I mean, listen, congratulations to Spain and the Spanish women. Yeah,
you know, winning the World Cup.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
But there has to be someone to hate on it.
And yeah, no one better than you?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Right well, No, I don't have any I don't have
any buddies. Actually I do have a buddy, who's.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Rob Stone's over there? Rob Stone. They picked England.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Rob was struggling with some of his picks over there.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
But they picked England to win. But Carly Lloyd did
she pick Spain? She saw it coming the whole time.
She picked them before the tournament.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Now do you guys, they've got to be so relieved
to come home. I mean, Australia is beautiful, but they've
been out there a long time.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You've been there before, have you been?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But I mean it's.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
From what you've read, what you hear.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Like it looks pretty cool out there, but you're away
from home for how many weeks? What like over like
a month and a half on assignment out there for
the World Cup. Like I would think you'd want to
come home, Rob rob Stone at this point, he's ready
for football season.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
You know, you kick off, he's asking for some shrimp
on the barbie.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Was an awful accent.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Sorry I don't have an Australian accent, so no, you
got an.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I don't know, good day.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
You might see it's solid.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I watched Crocodile dun Day, you know a little bit.
That's about it for.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
The dingo ate your baby.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
What what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Oh? Yeah, that's that's it. Crocodile. I'm trying to do
my blue impression.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's been basically the only place since Crocodile Dundee I've
heard of an Australian accents.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah. What you just referenced though, was was was pat
carry or Jim Jim Carrey, don't and dumb and dumber?
What would you like some shrimp on the barbie stupid? Well?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, congratulations yea Spain inter Miami.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Because people people said, when we don't acknowledge like all
the things that are happening in the sports old So
I always feel like if we just we get it
in here and there, it's.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Like, okay, we're good.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
All right, we talked about it, we gave we gave
our very educated sports opinion on it.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah, and then four years from now we'll break down,
you know, the the Spanish soccer teams potential win at
another World Cup.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You know we'll do that.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
You know, everything is covered here, So now we got
it all locked in, everything's figured out.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I thought you were going to say congratulations in Spanish,
given your bilingual skills.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah. I thought he was going to bring it back
to messy personally, but I guess no, it's not.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
There's a messy. The part timer. Yeah there you mister
part time.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Whatever his part time is is better than most of.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
How many is he going to get like like one
fourth of a ring? They have like a one fourth
of it? And then there's elastic.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Do you have a goal in every game lead that
at this point, I believe all but one.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, pretty uh maybe every one of them. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
How many shootouts? Did it take? Penalty shots for ten? Yeah?
Well that's cool.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
How about So what's you trying to say, Jonas?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I mean, I feel like Rinaldo could have done it
in five. But again, you know that's yeah. People want
to people want to fan boy over messy.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Hey, what what's it like living as a natural hater? Though? Like?
What's that? What's that feel like?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Like?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
How does that like when you wake up in the morning,
do you do you like, spin out a bid, put
both your feet down on Like, today's the perfect day
to hate.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I walk around with a wand and I sprinkle hate dust.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's what I knew today. I think today, I think
I'll just dish out so many insults towards this person
in particular.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think they called that like PCP in the movie Friday.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
A Year of War, the Angel dust so yeah with
smoky Yeah, and ever since then, I be telling Hector,
I love what he's like. Dust off his shoulder. I
had to go get my mama, had to go give
me what. Yeah, Jonas, I don't like it. I need
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to go. Yeah, somebody's got to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Somebody got Jonas, are you hating on when a guy
like Aaron Rodgers, who's a first Ball Hall of Famer,
decides to play in the last preseason game?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
You hat on that decision.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I'm glad you brought that up, because no, I'm not
hating on that decision. I'm a little surprised by the
decision at this point. What's the point? Why don't you
just get to the regular season and then roll this
thing out there to open up the year against the
Bills on Monday Night. But that is the plan. According
to a source, that Rogers is going to play in
the Jets' final preseason game coming up next weekend against
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the Giants. And so, if you're wondering, when is this
whole thing at a start for Aaron Rodgers and the
Jets in an actual game, it's coming up this this
weekend here for the Genets.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Can I present why it concerns me?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Well, did he get tweaked in practice? He tweaked his
ankle or.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Calf couple of times.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
He's got big calves though, so he's always susceptible to
a calf injury. That's one of the blessings of not
having very big calves is cant injur.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Something you don't have.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So and Jonas, you and I are in the small
calf committee. We've talked about this at length.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Bro, My calves are smaller than both. You got small
calves to bro. Have you never seen my calves? That's
why you've never seen. People have probably said, yeah, you know,
oh everybody, I get a leg day joke every day.
I'm like, dude, my legs don't grow. Yeah, but what
do you do calf raises? Like you? You're a squad.
I do squats, I do do toe raises, I do
all of it. They just they don't grow. Yeah, their tone,
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they just don't grow.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But I guess my point is, what's the point He's
already heard it in practice?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Why would you.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Then play in a preseason game that's that close to
Week one, like a meaningful game. You would think that
the second preseason game will be the one that you'd
want to target in the event you did tweak something.
You have a little bit more time to get ready.
Now you might say, hey, I want to knock the
rust off. I'd like to do it closer when I
have to be out there the following week, and so
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that's why I'd rather do it then, Okay, I just
I feel like that leaves you a little bit subject
to risk if you maybe could have used an extra
week of time to come back from some sort of injury.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Right. I think that's It's a hard one. That's a
hard one to measure, and the gauge. If everything goes
the way it's supposed to go. You get him in,
he gets a couple reps, he gets out, he gets
the crowd, some good feelings, everything all is good. If
he does get injured, then it's like, why the hell
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did you do it? Just a hard one.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
He's going to hand the ball up a couple of times, like.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well you can't win, right, Like, let's see, is a
great preseason performance? Is anyone really that excited considering Yeah, okay,
like we need this in a regular sesson though it's
always gonna be tempered.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, but you go back to be excited because they
got to see them though. You know how that goes.
I mean that's true. It just you know, that's how
I look at it, like, especially for that market, like
to go through the entire preseason and not give them
just like a like give them.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Just a taste, a little taste you know of what
what you're going to get, not the whole thing, just
a little little bit, and and then.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
That what's your whistle? And then you're you're good? You know? Yeah?
I just I would assume.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
It's still gonna be a couple of weeks before you
play Week one against the Bills on Monday Night, Like,
what is what is whatever he does this game? How
is that going to translate over to anything that happens
two weeks from then on Monday Night against the Bills.
I don't know's You're not gonna You're not gonna replicate
anything like it. Just to me, it feels like, why
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run the risk, roll them out there week one. You're
going to work through some kinks and get deal with
some growing pains, and it's gonna happen in real time
during the season. I just don't understand why, like what
this does for getting ready for I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Is it a possibility he just wants to play?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Couldn't He hasn't done this since twenty eighteen, at least
according to a report, which I didn't go back to
verify or check.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
He took a pay cut, so he's doing things that
he wouldn't normally do. Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's possible.
He could just Hey, coach, I want to play Brady.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
You brought this up, I want to say, last week
or the week before that. One of the things with
Rogers and the Packers over the past several years have
been slow starts.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Do you think that is maybe in the back of
his mind, like those slow starts are because I didn't
play it all in the preseason, and so maybe this
would help kind of exercise those humans a little bit
and I can go out there and feel more comfortable
to start off the year, especially Week one against the
Bills on prime time.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Sure, I mean, I think all of it, all of
it could play a role.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You know, even just looking across the field, around the
field and being like, holy hell, I'm more in this
green uniform now and it's a different green than what
I was wearing in Green Bay. Like like all those
things make a difference that they matter, and it sounds small,
and it sounds like, you know, for us on the outside,
we're like, well, how much can it make that big.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Of a difference for him? It could be a huge
difference in.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Providing him confidence and comfort so he can play the
way he's capable of, you know, right out the gate.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
So the slow starts could.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Be something that's he's looking for a solution to. Look,
I'm not sure it's gonna make that big of a difference. Right,
Let's say he plays a series two series and to
your point, mostly hands the football off with those a
few passes. I don't know how of a difference it's
gonna make. He's played so much football in his career,
(11:04):
it's not going to make any difference. A few plays
is not going to make any difference. And I would
venture to say I don't think it exercises the demons
of starting off slow either. I I just think that
that's one of those things. If he start, if they
start off slow, that'll continue to be a part of
mark of his career as teams he's on start slow.
I mean, but I don't there there can't be too
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much of a cursor connected to him playing a few
downs in the last preseason game. I don't think that
that puts anything the rest for him or anything like that.
I would just say, honestly speaking, I mean, why do
you spar right, Like when you go into sparring matches,
that's like a real fight. You're you're, you're, you're trying
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to simulate a real fight.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And so yeah, right, So so by the time you
get to the sin the main fight, like, that's supposed
to be easier. So to me, if if he's going
in there the spar I would say, maybe he's going
in there to see what it feels like to be
the starter for the New York Jets, And that would
totally be it. Like, give your teammates the opportunity to
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see you out there as the starter, give yourself the
opportunity to feel it as the starter in a game
where there there are some jag.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Loons, speedbags one two three, seed bag.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Tripped out, man, Man, I was just.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Trying to match what what what Jonah sounds like?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
What do you say? Oh? Oh, how does he sound? Jonahs?
That's how Jonas sounds. Jonas got soft hands, man, he
don't have them hard by soft boy hands.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
By the way, you know it's not soft.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Oh geez.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And I know we brought this up last week, but
I can't, you know, just to upon taking a closer
look at it, the Jets opening schedule, So you get
the Bills, then you're at the Cowboys, then you get
the Pats at home, then you get the Chiefs at Denver,
and then Philly.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, I mean not easy.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I mean there's a chance there. And again I don't
think this will be the case, but it would not
be outside the realm of possibility to think that maybe
they were one and four going into their bye week.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
I don't know, man, I mean, I think they match
up well with teams.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I agree that d Lie is a beast or two
and four rather, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yeah, two and four heading into the bye week.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's possible with that schedule. But still, now, how much
are it now if you get off to a slow
start and you had those type of teams that early
on in your schedule, how much does that play a
part in that being a slow start that Hannon Rodgers
is having to me, it's not just who's going to
blink at you lose into Kansas City. You know who's
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going to blink at you losing to Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
The Buffalo game to open up the year is going
to be fascinating.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I'm just not I wonder how much of his decision
to play too. Has to do with the schedule early on,
like how important these games are a divisional game out
the gate, and how good some of the you know
opponents are. Again, it's the NFL, so you don't really
ever take any week off. You know, you could sit
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there and say you're playing lesser opponents. That's how you
get beat because the margins of difference aren't as big
as what we perceive them to be on the outsides,
you know, that's why you know, teams end up being closer.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
And we think all the time as far as sports
betting goes.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But I do wonder if he kind of looks at
not so much even like the slow start history, but
the fact that he's not. It's like when he was
in Green Bay, he probably felt at certain points like
he could call it a career whenever he wanted to.
And so when you are the one that ultimately makes
the decision and there's this kind of like finite line
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or there isn't this finite line where you know it's
gonna end, it probably feels different in regards to sense
of urgency. He knows he's there for two years, maybe three,
and that's it, and that's it. So he's got to
do things a little bit different maybe how he did
earlier in his career, to hopefully get the results that
he's looking for and to get a Super Bowl. And
(15:28):
with the schedule they have, I'm wondering too if that
doesn't play a small portion of the thought process behind it.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yeah, so it's going to be interesting to see how
that plays out. We'll be in Ireland when that preseason
game against the Giants is happening, that's right, Yeah, although
it'll be Uh, what.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Are we going to be doing over there?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I mean, do you think they have LeVar Islands on
an island?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I'm like a variation of it. I'm sure they just
have a a LeVar Island over there. Probably, I'm just
doing whatever, you know, clever once we get there.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Have you been to Ireland? Okay? So Brady, what can
we expect when it comes to cocktail wise? Is it
all the beer?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
I mean the beer is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean, if you like a stout, obviously, Guinness is fantastic,
taste better over there, just how it is. Anything beer
wise you're gonna enjoy and look, i mean Jamison obviously.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Whisky there.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah, no, no, they don't have any of those.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You can go ahead and just just go ahead and
walk home back.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
To the United States from Ireland. If you're an I
p A. I'm just I'm being honest with you, all right,
you know.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But uh, I would say, they'll have all the drinks there,
They'll have all the mixed drinks there for LeVar.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But let me just say that.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I don't need to go mix the nicest people in
the world. They are the nicest people. You will enjoy
yourself as far as like how nice the hospitality everyone
is there, Just the nicest people in the world.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Now, as far as food goes, what's the go to?
We're gonna get some soda bread?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Sure, yeah, you can.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You can play up any sort of traditional Irish Irish
foods if you want a lot of There's still fish
and chips.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Things like that, ham and ham and beef sure or
not not? Not not cabbage, cabbage and beef. Yeah, cabbage
and beef.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I love corn beef. Love me some corn beef.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
You can go ahead and eat every day like it's
uh like I's Saint Patrick's.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I mean, I just want to know. I want to
know what to order, so I don't feel like a horse.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Is it's it's it's a little racist, but it's whatever.
It's all you want to play it. Yeah, no button there,
huh no, no button.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Apparently I'm half Irish.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Just gonna say there we go.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
All right, So there it is. That'll that'll conclude our preview.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
What to eat?
Speaker 5 (17:45):
And here's my question, is what's leg going to eat
over for there?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah, you got your eye on anything.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You want to be around him?
Speaker 7 (17:53):
To be eating bread?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Water is what I'm gonna eating.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
I'm just going to see what's out there.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
God, I cannot be banged up over there.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I just I've seen been out with Lee's socially in
a while, so I like to see old Lee.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
I've been on my best behavior getting ready for this trip.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Lee and I are talking about loose. We're trying to
figure out if we can pull off the no checked
bag feet.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Oh I'm not checking a bag. You guys are going direct.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Thus you've got a much better shot of something making
it even if you check it.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I I do not have that.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Er Lingus did tell us we're hooked up with the
amount of bags we could bring. So that's it's tempting.
But yeah, I'm usually just stick to two bags, especially
my last.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
See I would have like I need to have LeVar
maybe bring some extra clothes if he checks a bag
that I can wear because Jonas is Jonas wears a medium.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
He wears the smallest clothes in the history of the world.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Paint it on.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, like you basically like if they mixed up your
your luggage with a horse jockey.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
No one will be shocked by that.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Not at all.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
I'm just saying it's the exact same size.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
No, listen, I am a firm believer, Like I want
it tight, all right, I like, I want I want
you to be able to look and go all right, Well,
that's clearly somebody who does not believe in in comfort.
He's willing to risk it all for fashion.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
All right, So tight you would think if you look
at the nice luggage, like he bathes in a thimble. Yeah,
like that's what he jumps into for a bathtub.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I mean I'm bringing deep v X, like the type
that you step through the collar.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
To put on the same color. It's great, pretty much.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
What color is that going to be? Yeah, that's come on, Mark,
I mean we're gonna We're gonna take this here. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Every every day is a funeral to Jonas he's just
wearing all black everything.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Every day you wear black, don't you.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well, go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
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Speaker 4 (20:01):
So apparently not everybody in the NFL has figured out
who their starting quarterback is going to be for the
regular season. So let's focus in on the teams that
apparently do not have that decision made. First and foremost
the Houston Texans, because Demiko Ryans is still not ready
to name c J. Stroud the starter.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
C J.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Stroud has been kind of okay, seems like he got
a little bit better this last time around in his
preseason action, but it looks like Demiico Ryans is still
playing this hole. We're having a quarterback competition, Davis Mills CJ.
Stroud as we get ready for the season, so this
will be coming up. All he wanted to point out
(20:44):
to the media was that, hey, we are going to
have a quarterback Week one against Baltimore, and you guys
will see who that is. So I don't know if
this is another defensive coach kind of playing this quarterback game.
But nonetheless, the Houston Texans still not totally sold, which
I can't imagine. It makes the agent for CJ. Stroud
all that thrilled knowing that he may or may not
(21:04):
have to take a picture with a quarterback who's going
to be a backup to Davis Mills. Like that's unfortunate
for everybody there. So there's the latest on the Houston Texans,
and then when it comes to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
there was a report that was thrown out there from
Ira Kaufman, who's been covering Tampa Bay for a long time,
that says bar He said that it looks like and
(21:28):
they've talked internally that Baker Mayfield's going to be the
starting quarterback Week one, and apparently that's not the case.
Mike Evans alluded to that a few days ago. And
now you've got Todd Bowles who's speaking about the situation.
So here was the bucks head coach talking about the
timeline and what to expect with the media when it
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comes to the announcement of QB one for the regular season.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
You have a time people for when you want to
name a starter publicly?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Could this be after the third game and Wheat and
coll after that. We don't have a timetable on it.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
We'll name it when we name it, and you know,
we feel comfortable with where we're at, so we'll go
from there.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
A different kind of playing field with this.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Quarterback battle when one quarterback plays but the other one
doesn't play at all, when you're trying to come up
with who's going to be the starter.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
No, it's not a different kind of playing field. We
monitor everything.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
It's not just preseason games, it's everything that goes through it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
They've both been competing hard.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
We like what both of them do, and we'll go
from there.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
So there's your your latest on the Bucks quarterback situation.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I mean, is he supposed to how else is he
supposed to answer it? Though? C you you.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Know, well, here's what i'd say is by now, and
this is.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Don't get offended when I'm gonna say this, Okay, Dmiko Ryans,
all right, Todd Bowles, what's their background or the offense
or defense?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Defense?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And defensive minded coaches always do this. They always do this.
They have a quarterback competition or they don't want to
name of the starter, and it kind of drags on
and and I understand their perspective. They come from a
different side of the ball where they need to see
the guy do something. They need to see him win
the job. He's got to he's gotta do something in
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a preseason game or training camp to separate himself.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
And he's the one, right The only issue is, like
with CJ.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Strott, you spent the draft pick already, man, like he's
your guy, whether or not you need to see something.
You don't need to see something in preseason. You need
to see something from him in the regular season. And
so you're you're not gonna get to if you're having
him sit and watch a few weeks to then have
Davis Mills start. If that's the track you're on. So
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he's gonna be the guy. I don't know when they're
gonna announce it, and then we'll see what he you know,
what he's capable of doing once he gets out. There's
rookie season and hopefully people are patient. Clearly the Texans
rosters and where it needs to be yet or where
they want it to be in order to be able
to come Pete for an AFC South title. In regards
to Tampa, look, Trask has been there, they drafted him.
(24:06):
I'm sure there's people in the front office who want
him to have a shot. But you brought in Baker
for a reason. You would have brought in Baker if
you thought Trash could be the heir apparent to Tom Brady.
And so this is just an example of a team
that to me, is going to be in a tough
spot this year. Like, when you let stuff like this
drag on, you're not telling your locker room who the
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guy is.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
You're not telling your.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Locker room the who the leader, at least on the
offensive side of the ball is. And I always feel
like defensive minded head coaches let this stuff drag on
longer than they should or it needs to. And sometimes
they'll tell you that it gives them a greater schematic
advantage or advantage on their opponent because teams don't know
(24:49):
heading into week one who's going to be the guy
when really, like you've got enough time to scout both
prepare for both Trask and Bayfield aren't that different. And
so I just I always find this to be somewhat
comical because you're you're gonna end up picking one of
the two guys, and in the end it's.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
It's probably not gonna matter all.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
That much, but it's the one you have in mind
to pick, Like you already have them, you already know
what you already know.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
But that's the thing is they feel like there's like
this need to see him, like make some ridiculous player
have some driver. It's like, no, dude, you know what
you need. You needed to get him reps with the
group he's playing with because either he hasn't had any
experience in Kyle's trass case since he's been there because
of Tom Brady's taken all those reps, or Baker Mayfield
just got there. So either one needs to get as
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many reps as possible because there's a lot of other
teams out there that have quarterbacks that have more experience
in the.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
System in the offense.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Now, it just so happens that in the NFC South
has been Riders the one with the most experience, not
saying playing in the NFL, but at least in the division,
right with Derek Carr beying new, Bryce Young being new.
But I'm just stayding like those are advantages that you
miss out on because.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
You're trying to have a quarterback competition. It's like, man,
it's a business.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Like if you brought Baker Mayfield, and you brought him
in because you think his experienced, you think he's got upside.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
You think you can help your team win football games.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Flat out, and there's no reason to let this thing
drag on. You're only hurting your own team at this
point by not allowing the receivers and the offensive line
everyone to mesh and have chemistry with.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Who's going to be the guy. So I just I feel.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Like this is always and ends up being a defensive
lot of head coach or lets this stuff drag on
along that it should, and unfortunately, I think it's going.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
To hurt them this season. You know, it's interesting that
it would be a defensive player to do it, because
it's all about deception. You know. Defensive coordinators, defensive minded
guys are all about less is more or give the
illusion of what it may or may not be. I mean,
(27:00):
isn't that kind of what's going on in Tennessee too?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I mean, well, Tannehill is the guy, it's more for
the backup spot between Lemons and uh.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
You think it's you think there, you think he's married
to that, that it's going to be him, it's it's
for sure gonna be Tannehill. Well, I guess we guess
for now. I mean at least for the sake of
what this conversation is. Yes, he's the starter, but you know, anyway,
it could end up being someone else that that doesn't
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in Tennessee if you're asking me. But you know, I
really believe with with Bowles, coach Bowles that he's more So,
I don't think this is strategy at this point. I
think that it is a careful approach possibly to what
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he's doing, because I think it is obviously I think
it's Baker Mayfield that he's going to go with, and
I would assume most people would think that it's Baker
Mayfield that he's going to go with and see if
that can work before he you know, pulls the ripcord
on that, because I think it's it's I think it's
an easier sale if you go if you start with
(28:18):
Baker Mayfield and it doesn't work and you got to
pivot and go in different directions. If you come to
Baker Mayfield after the fact of something not going right.
I think that that doesn't I don't think that's as
easy as seal and so to me, I think he's
going to start with Baker Mayfield, and I think Baker
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is going to have the opportunity to prove that he
can be the starter. And I don't know if he's
not making that readily available or readily known based upon
what he may think of Baker Mayfield based upon what
he's gotten to know of Baker Mayfield. But this could
be one of those situations where he's actually managed it
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based upon the personality traits of the person that he's
he's working with. I don't you know. I don't know.
But as far as with Demiko Ryans, I would say,
go go get it, Like you guys have not been good.
You're a great feel good story. You're you're a native
son of the team. Like, go get it, like I
agree with you wholeheartedly. Like go with Stroud. Let him
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get his lumps and his bumps and his bruises, but
let him get him, you know, and let him let
him have the team, because there's I mean, I don't
know what you drafted. I don't know you guys are
that's why you drafted him. That's why you drafted him.
That is why you drafted him.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Wouldn't if you were one of the teammates, wouldn't you
want to know at this point, like, hey, who's our quarterback?
Like Mike Evans, you know, played it cool, but you
could tell he was kind of frustrated last week. Like
I just you know, looking for some clarity on this.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I just want to know, Like, hey, Jonas, imagine, imagine
you and Q are in a quarterback battle, right, a
tight one too, and you're yeah, and your quarter and
your your receivers like are torn, and and like one
of them starts eating lunch with you and the other
one is eating lunch with Will just does eat lunch,
(30:14):
So that'd be easy while he's eating attacked while you're
eating peppers and tomatoes like an apple. You're now putting
those receivers in a possible position where it's like, huh, well,
this is my favorite, he's my go to guy, but
(30:35):
this is who I'm cool with.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
But in the case of c J. Stroud, that's one
of the ones to where when you make the commitment
to him, you're rolling with him this whole year. When
it comes to the Bucks, if you do go with
Mayfield and he struggles just put yeah, put trashkin Like
I don't. It feels like it's it's complicating something that
isn't all that complicated, or.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
You're turning it into a complication. You're turning it into
it like you in a way, you've now turned it
into a focal point. Like you could have minimized it
by just announcing your starter. But I think by continuing on,
because there's going to be the conversation that Tom Brady retiring,
that's the number one conversation connected to it. Boom, all right,
(31:16):
and then now it's like okay, and they can't even
figure out who they want to put out quarterback. You
could have put kind of that to bid and gave
the team the opportunity, to Q's point, to actually gain
that continuity, gain that trust for one another moving forward,
and to continue to kind of hold it over everyone's
(31:36):
head and hold them back from having that that opportunity
to bond. I mean that is that's it could be
considered counterproductive for certain Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
It's a little odd, but both teams, by the way,
projected to be non playoff teams this year, so that's
probably a stunning side note to all this, But there's
the there's the update on two teams who apparently haven't
decided who their starting quarterback is going to be in
the season is fast approaching in the NFL.
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a life fifty seven years.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
It was just it's been an I mean around for
fifty seven years. This man, it's been a great fifty seven.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
Years captivity for decades, and it's like being given your
walking papers and then you know, getting shanked right before
you're getting out of theree.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Somebody somebody off. I'm telling you that side job. Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Who do you think would have went after the seals
like the Sea Lion exhibit.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
See, I'm gonna say the security for the tree leaners.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Oh, good call, I was gonna say maybe. All right,
do you think they'll question Jonathan Taylor about any of this?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Oh? I don't know. I don't want to give me
an extension. That's Patty. You want to you want to
take my chick takeout for you? Will, I'll take your
black fish? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
So you think that if you're not alive tomorrow and
I'm not in the league, no one cares.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
All right, Well, let's let's say whale. Let's test this
theory out with your whale player.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
By the way, not to connect the dots here, but
how much proportally was Jonathan Taylor asking ballpark million?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
I mean, it's about there, and how.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Much did it? How much does it cost? You're going
to give a whale twenty million, but you ain't gonna
get your star running back exactly.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
You know a lot of connecting the dots here there.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Maybe maybe guys are on a subbe inside job, but it.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Is mthan Taylor. We'll say.
Speaker 10 (35:48):
By the way, after watching the man Cell documentary, anything
fact that, yeah, when his agent admits they're going to
try to make his dad fake a heart attack. At
this point, I don't put anything outside the realm of agents.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
I mean, these some of these guys are scummy. I
mean we've already dealt with one earlier. You know, he's
got to take his pictures with all his clients. But
I'm just saying, these these guys will do anything to
make a deal.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
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