November 8, 2023 • 38 mins
Carson Wentz gets another shot in Los Angeles. Will Levis gets the go ahead in Tennessee and New England has a wish list for Bill Belichick replacements. Plus, the weekly visit from Petros Papadakis to weigh in on Caleb Williams crying and all things college football. Plus, “You In or Out?”
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So couple of quarterback updates and a head coaching update
or rumor is probably the better word to use there.
Rumor as far as the head coach goes. Carson Wentz
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is back, right, he is back. He has not played
since last year, but Carson Wentz is back. He will
serve his backup to Matt Stafford in LA So kind
of interesting that that was the spot and the destination
that he chose. But Brett Rippin filled in for Matt
Stafford this past weekend in Green Bay and it was
(02:05):
a diaper fire performance. Not well did he perform at all,
And they got just completely manhandled by a bad Green
Bay Packer team in lambeau Field. And so the LA
Rams decided, we've got to make a move, and so
Carson Wentz his back and he will serve ce back
up to Matt Stafford with the Rams there, So I
don't know where that lands with you of are if
(02:25):
you even care?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, listen, I care because it's it's football season, and
it's football. The Rams are a team that obviously is
not doing very well this year, and it's it's sad
because Aaron Donald is still wrecking games and still playing
at a very very high level.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And did you see that? I'm sorry, but did you
see the video? There's a clip online where he's getting
double teamed by two Packers offensive linemen and split some
gets around and makes a play like runs down the
back out of the backfield and it's like they're not
even there. It's just like he's he's that good still
(03:13):
at this stage of his career.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, he's still that good. And and that that league
gets buried by the losing and then you start to
ask yourself the question of what does that mean for
mcveigh's future and in Los Angeles, because this is two
years straight where this team is is underperforming. And and
(03:35):
so you look at Carson Wentz being brought in at
this at this juncture in time, what what are we
expecting from Carson Wentz on a three to win team?
I mean, if we're being honest, what what exactly would
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the expectation be for Carson Wentz if, by chance he
takes over as the starting quarterback of this team. I mean,
what are you looking for, right because, I mean, let's
look at their schedule. They have the Seahawks, that's going
to be a tough one for them. They have the
(04:16):
Cardinals that that's their evenly match. But then you have
the Browns that's a gifted defense there, and now they're
playing they'll probably be better on offense. Then they have
the Ravens that could be the hottest team in football
right now. They have the Commanders, which the Commanders are
always a threat. You're not going to look at them
(04:40):
and say that's a that's a given loss. But you're
not going to look at the Commanders and say that's
a given win either. The Saints are improving, the Giants
now who knows, and then they have the forty nine Ers, right,
So out of all those games, you have one, two, three,
(05:01):
out of the game's remaining, there's like and one of
those three is a possible. The Commander's game is a possible.
So you have two games that you should win and
a possible that you could win.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And also you mentioned the Cardinals with Kyler Murray back
as we've talked about and you've talked about.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Could get better.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, that's not a shouldn't prove like, that's not I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
He makes them better by himself. He makes that team
all the way back, and we.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Know they play hard. So yeah, we could be looking
at a four or five win team at the end
of this whole thing.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Six tops, Yeah, six wins tops. So when you look
at that, what exactly are we supposed to say about
Carson Wentz Carson Wentz. If Carson Wentz were to come
into this scenario and give them more than three wins
and he was the starter for that, then then it's
a different conversation at the point in time that he
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gets the four wins, five wins, you know, whatever it
may be, and you're talking about one of the I mean,
he would have to be up for comeback Player of
the Year.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I think in just the big picture, we're basically staring
at the end of this Rams era square in the eyes.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
It's over, and.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Carson Wentz's career. I mean, if you're gonna if the
segment is about Carson Wentz You're not only looking at
the end of an era for the la Rams, where
they're gonna have to at some point take a good,
heart long look at what they're going to do to
move into the future. But you're gonna look at careers
like Carson Wentz and you're gonna be like, you know,
(06:36):
this is what it is like. We need a quarterback
to back up this guy. We'll bring him in. He's
going to be a traveler. He'll move around, he might
not play much at all, he might get called in
due to an injury, this, that and the other, and
before long he'll disappear.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Now, the other piece of quarterback news we should get
to is the Tennessee Titans have determined they'd like to
get more of a look.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Of Will Levis.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
They'd like Will Lewis to go ahead, and yeah, imagine
that after the the past two performances, here was Mike Rabel,
the head coach of the Titans, talking about the decision
to switch to Levis as a starting quarterback moving.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Forward, going forward, you know, Will's gonna be our quarterback.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
We're gonna go with Will.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
We think that's the best opportunity for our football team
right now. And you know see where he's at. I
think Ryan will progress through here this week. I think,
you know, to be a backup for us and prepare
as a starter. But that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I think about it. We're pulling ten in Hill pulling him,
so that's a big move, like they're moving into the
future with their team, and will Levis is seemingly the guy.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I mean everything you've seen it, and we talked about
it last Friday after the Thursday night game against Pittsburgh,
Like the numbers maybe weren't there in the box score. Oh,
and he threw that late interception, but he's trying to
make a play. But if you just look at how
composed he is, how much more dynamic the offense with
him at quarterback, this is a no brainer. Like I mean,
(08:04):
if I'm Mike Rabel, if I'm a Titans fan, I'm
really excited about what this is going to look like
moving forward. Because this is somebody who you know slipped
in the draft. There was all sorts of stuff about
him and you know, work ethic or whether people got
along with him and instead he waited his turn, he
got his opportunity. He completely you know, lit it up.
(08:25):
The week before through the four touchdowns, and then he
went on the road in Pittsburgh against that defense and
had an opportunity at potentially winning that game. To me,
if I'm Mike Rabel and I'm the Titans, this was
a no brainer the whole way through.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Well, guys are getting getting some yards now, Phillips getting
yards as d hop if he's happy about having will
Levis in there as opposed to any other quarterback there,
and he probably tell you, hell yes. So you're building
the confidence of your players around you on the offense
right now because they believe even Will leftis Will Levis
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and his ability to deliver what he's delivering. So I
think it's a You know, Mike, we've talked about AP
and Antonio Pierces during this show. Mike Vrabel is like
an original Antonio Peers right, Like he's he's one of
those guys who played in the league, played linebacker, hard
(09:22):
knows guy. But as a player's coach, he relates to
his players. He cares about his players, His players know
that he cares about him, and the things that he
does is very interactive and very very just just connected
to what what the environment of the culture is in Tennessee.
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So I don't think he's lost that. I don't think
he's lost this locker room in any shape form any way.
And and so what he's going to do, he's going
to continue to try to build for the future. We
heard the rumors of what could possibly happen with trading
Henry or anything like that. Uh, they've been in some
(10:03):
some transition as of years late, trying to figure out
where where to go because they have not been able
to get over the hump with ten and Hill at
at at the quarterback's position. So you get in Levis.
Levis has that big arm. He's showing that he's learning
the game. He's adjusting and adapting to the NFL game,
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and it looks like he's adjusting and adapting nicely to it.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You want to why here another rumor that's out there.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Let's let's hear the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Let's hear Jabari Arrington I have in my hands right here.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Okay, let me hear it. Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Okay, what you got the Boston Globe?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Okay, what is the Boston Globe have to do with Tennessee?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
According to the Boston Globe, two sources close to the
New England Patriots. Okay view Mike Rabel and Nick Cassario
the Texans gm as their quote unquote home run targets
to replace Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
What do you think about that? What do you think
about that?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
For I've been saying for the last couple of years,
does Bill Belichick's seat get hot? Everybody says he's sitting
on a glacier and there's no way that he could
lose his job, and this and that and the other.
Doesn't sound like that's continuing to be the main theme
and story of what's taking place in New England. Sounds
like people are getting a little bit restless and getting
(11:28):
a little tired of what they're seeing take place. And
there you know, at some point, there comes a point
in time where you got to think about it. Is
there going to be some necessary changes made?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
He ever felt underappreciated at your house? Almost like the
only time the only time you hear from people is
when you do something wrong or they're unhappy with you.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
It's it's never like it.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
If you're and that's all the time.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, And you know, like if you're one of the
people out there that are listening, going, yeah, I feel
the same way. In fact, you left early to go
to work in to go work early just because you
want to get out of the house fifteen minutes sooner
because you're retired of getting ridiculed.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
If you're listening to this, you can relate.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
With Bill Belichick for all he's done for that organization
in the past two decades, and everybody wants him out,
like we've all how quickly we've forgotten how great that
organization has been. And now you got the Boston Globe
writing up articles talking about Mike Vrabel and Nick Cassario
taking over the job.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Hey, you know what was it spelled backwards?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Saul?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Damn?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
If you was doing well, if you was getting it
done and that was continues to be a was, you're
gonna have to flip that word around. You're gonna have
to sew that bat. You're gonna have to saw it off.
So just be careful when you would you become az
when you that was for too long, You're gonna have
(12:52):
to deal with the saw.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I'm a I'm a Bill Belichick guy, So I hope
you wait to sold thing out. In fact, I hope
Bill Belichick tells Robert Craft. I dare you to fire me.
I dare you to fire me?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Okay, anything else.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
And you know what if Bill Belichick does get fired,
you know what does she do on his on his
exit press conference, he should say, you know what, I
think I'm gonna take some time to myself. I'm gonna
go hang out at you know, a massage parlor in Jupiter, Florida,
and just go ahead and just take my time there.
Just real petty, nice, little nice little to the ribs
of robber Craft. You know, something a little dig inside there,
(13:30):
little body work inside.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, yeah, I have fun with that.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Thank you, coach.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
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on x slash Twitter at the old p PE. Good morning,
what's happening?
Speaker 8 (14:59):
Good morning everybod buddy, Hello morning, Hello LaVar, Hey, good
morning morning.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So uh Petros. LeVar has been getting some pushback from
people on social media.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
LeVar, you want to explain.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Why I don't have no problems with That's my former teammate.
I have no problems with with RC and I know
there's been interesting back back and forth between him and Q,
but I don't have it. You know, they're saying I
got to pick a side. You know, it is what
it is. But anyway, I made mention of I had
(15:32):
an opinion on Caleb Williams uh mother's arms, jumping into
the stands to cry in his mother's arms. What what
What was your take on it? Like, did you have
a takeaway from it? Did you think nothing of it
at all? Like I've been getting a little pushback on
my Well, what was your take LeVar? Uh? I think
(15:54):
there's a time and place for everything, and I just
think the you know, the fabric of what football is
is built on and based on is turning young young
boys and young guys into men. It's it's almost it's
the closest thing to being in the military without being
in the military. It's a man's game, and so to me,
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it's it's you know, a lot of people were giving
me flak in terms of basically saying that it comes
across as insensitive or you know, I'm I'm the reason
why young men have mental health issues because I'm basically saying, uh,
you know, take your motions and bury they tuck them away.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Listen, I didn't I see what you did there?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
You can. You can go into the animals and see
when we lost the Minnesota my last year in school,
I was my dad had to come get me out
of the locker room. I collapsed to the ground. What's
the keyword there? Out of the locker room? Exactly out
of the locker room. So there's a time and a
place for everything. But what what's your take on it?
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Well, I was a lot more and not like I
get upset about these things.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
But I was not. Clearly, I was not upset. I
was not perturbed by him doing what.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
You know, a lot of people weren't, like, you know,
I mean, if it was a Penn State guy, you
know a lot of people you would start to know, like, wow,
all these people are upset, you know, like I'm a
USC guy. So a lot of people were upset about it,
Like a lot of people that never even played football
were upset.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
About it.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
I did not like the Utah one right where he
sat there and looked super dejected, knowing that all the
cameras are on him, had to show them how disappointed
he was, had to be coaxed off the bench by
one of those towel waving guys. And when it comes
to family, you never know what's going on in someone's family,
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you know, and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
So and I said that, of course I'm not saying
if somebody was sick, like if his mom was sick
or somebody sick in the family, I would apologize profusely
in terms of having the take that I did, because
I do not know if there was any other circumstances
connected to him doing that outside of the game. But
if I'm keeping it, if I make the the opinion
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and I'm keeping it, apples to apples, it's because you
lost this game. I thought it was a bad look.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
Yeah, there was a lot of people that would say,
I mean, they don't want to say it in public,
but they would say, you know, after the Utah thing,
and after you know, the nail painting and all the
different things that have been reported and some of the
things he said, especially recently that it was performative. But
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I mean, look to me, it's always a general rule
of thumb. If I was a coach, or if anybody
asked me my advice, it's get up the tunnel when
the game is over, especially if you lose. If you
know somebody on the other team, or somebody recruited you,
or there's somebody to give a hug, to go ahead
(19:03):
and do that. If you're too pissed off to shake hands,
that's okay too. Get up the tunnel. Get up the tunnel,
Get up the tunnel. Don't you're done playing, You're you're
on a team. It's not about you as an individual,
even though as much as it is when the game
is over and you've lost, get up the tunnel. That
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that would always be my message when I was an
older player. Look after my very first football game, I
thought I had been through a lot, most of it
self inflicted. Not my very first game, but my very
first game. I scored a touchdown in you know, I
remember crying in my well, my father's arms, you know,
in the tunnel, out out, you know, in in and
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out of the locker room after the game, in the.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Tunnel, What did your dad say to you you nothing.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
You know, it was just an emotional moment.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
You loser, no Ah, that to me, you know, that's
that's just And it doesn't have to be Caleb Williams.
It could be anybody. Get get up the tunnel. But
it is amazing how the equity of faith and love
(20:19):
that was raining down upon Caleb Williams nationally and locally
in many ways has evaporated. Uh and mostly because of
just the overall USC football teams play and it is
a team sport. You know, he is a great individual player,
but I don't know if playing to his individual talents
(20:40):
has really helped us he develop as a team the
last couple of years. I mean, they were eleven and
what they won eleven games last year and or they
they are falling to pieces and it's it's going to
be hard to see where the next victory is coming from.
They're going up to you, Gene. You know they're gonna
(21:01):
have to play a tough UCLA team. You know, this
is not this is not gonna be pretty because they've
lost their motivation for a national title. This guy still
might win a Heisman, but it's not a great scene
over there. And I agree with you to me, it's
something that should be up the tunnel, but when it's
a family thing, you never know. But uh, you know
(21:24):
that's a that was some serious sobbing.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
It was some real shoulder shaking. Yeah. Oh man, belly
belly ache and belly moven. I just listen. Tell me
this because I've asked every football player that I've talked
to since this happened, and asked a question, how many
times have you not seen your family when you come
out of the locker room when they're at the game.
(21:48):
How many times has your family came to a game
and did not come see you when you came up
out of that locker room.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
My grandmother, the Great Angie Papadakis, Okay, they God, let
rest her soul. They used to bring boxes of the
little soldiers, you know. They we owned liquor stores when
I was a kid.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Uh and uh.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
You know I I your grandma Crumpete, Yes she did,
And I got twelve little bottles of freaking Johnny Walker
Red to show, you know, and we'd be on the plane,
you know, and enjoy that. You know what I'm saying is, yes,
your family is always there.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
You know, You've never there's not been one time you
did not see them when you came out with your people.
Don't understand that you sweatsuit on right. That's and that's
my point, Like, if you know all of the inner
workings of all of this, that's something that you you'd
have more than enough time to weep in your mom's
arms and on her shoulder and with your dad and
your family. Get to like you said, get to and
(22:51):
they teach you this, get to the locker room, collect
your thoughts. They don't let the media right in because
they give you a little bit of time to kind
of like get the emotions of the game.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Not a great love, not a great look for a
team leader, you know, that kind of stuff. But I mean, look,
and I've seen some of the greats of the game,
guys that are Hall of famers, you know, like you
have LeVar, totally lose their composure, cry, scream, you know,
wreck the locker room, break stuff, fight others.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
You know.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
I mean, it's football, for God's sakes, But these are
things that that we try to keep because it's a team,
because it's a team.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Sport, you know.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
But uh, but but you know, I mean the whole
Caleb Williams thing. He's becoming about as much of an
individual as you can be while playing a team sport.
And it's happened this year and I don't think it's
up to US's benefit. I don't think anybody could argue.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Do you think that's a Nile driven you know? I
don't even know, uh, you know it's the Yeah, I don't.
You know.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
The NIL thing confuses me so much because, like you
see these dinners that they have like at USC and
it's like all these people that I know that get
invited like cool people, and they're all there talking about
the NIL or having a conversation about the NIL, and
it's like, unless you're super rich, why are you involved, right,
(24:16):
unless you're going to give them a million dollars to
give to some of the players, you know, what, what
are you doing showing up in an NIL event? I
don't I don't understand, right, And I know it's not
pay to play necessarily, but it totally is. And if
let's say Caleb Williams said, well I've done everything I could,
(24:37):
I'm going to shut it down. You know something that
like maybe some ill advised advice from like Acho or something.
Let's say he took that you know, and and upset
absolutely because gms and stuff want to see you finish
a season. But let's say he did that, would the
nil still people still pay him? Would they have to?
(25:01):
You know, I don't. I don't understand. It's such a
wild West. The schools aren't involved, but they are. You know,
it's uh, let's just say it's it's less confusing than
uh than nuclear math. But other than that, it's it's
pretty It's hieroglyphic to me.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Petris Papadegas joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. So,
p I gotta ask you. Colorado made a move. Deon
Sanders made a move this past week, Lewis, Yeah, what
what do.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
You make of that? Because this was a guy you're trying.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
To protect his son and reflect some of the blame
of the offense on his son. Who I mean, changing
the play caller is not going to change the old
line or the identity of the team that you've created already.
You know, you got that guy away from Kent State,
where he was a head coach and a relatively successful
one in the MAC He was doing quite well, and
(25:55):
he takes that job to be your play caller and
you embarrass him and strip him of his duties mid
season because your son's limping around. I mean, I I
that's that's how I read it. But it's a race
to the finish to see who's gonna come apart at
the seams worse Colorado or USC is the season goes off,
(26:16):
which is amazing, right, But.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
What what's the most surprising part?
Speaker 8 (26:20):
I remember that game and you had everybody there, and
everybody was on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
And everybody celebrities, right, everybody the chip.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
What's the most what's the most surprising part of the
USC demise this year?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Is it?
Speaker 8 (26:39):
Is it just the I mean, I just guess, you know,
just to be that susceptible to the run as a
USC college football team is amazing. And you know, I
we we lost, you know, five games or more. You
know a couple times when I was at USC, we
were terrible. But you couldn't run power on seven times
(27:00):
in a row. You know, a lot of our problems
were on offense, and my god, Carson Palmer was our quarterback.
But I mean you just like, that's not the sport
I grew up in. If you play at USC and
they run power down your throat like that and just
(27:21):
make you quit physically. And a running back that no
one has ever heard of, because Washington barely runs the
ball comes out and has like a Charles White OJ
Simpson game against you. Then you're not playing USC footballs.
You're not, you know. I remember we I called a
game a couple of years back, Clay Hilton's era, and
(27:45):
it was Oregon State SSE. Oregon State won their first
game in the coliseum since, like I think forever, and
they had two big tight ends, Teagan Quatriano and Luke
Musk greg Rave I think both are in the NFL now.
US he didn't even have a tight end or practice
against tight ends, and Oregon State ran them over. They
(28:05):
had like three hundred yards rushing, maybe more. And I
remember driving home and my teammates, guys I played with,
they don't contact me very much, would you? I mean,
I'm awful, but I remember, you know, especially about football,
you know. But I remember driving home that night and
guys on the team being like, were we that bad?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
You know? Could would that?
Speaker 8 (28:27):
And I said, well no, not in that way, Like
you couldn't run, you couldn't just humiliate by pulling guards
and running the ball on us and just basically pitting
us down and laughing at us in front of our
home fans. And that's what's been happening to USC week
in and week out. Hell, I did USC Colorado last year.
(28:48):
Colorado had like a half of a win last year,
but they ran the ball on see, you know, And
to me, that's, you know, just this weird seven on
seven stuff that USC and Colorado are playing, which is
going out of style in the world of football. I mean,
Mike Gundhy is the guy that used to play faster
(29:09):
than anybody, and he's getting in the I formation, getting
under center, and they have a back running for three
hundred yards a game in Oklahoma State and they're not
I mean, I did that team twice at the beginning
of the season. They built into that, they grew into
that playing together and being physical. They got beat by
(29:29):
South Alabama. They got their ass kicked at home by
South Alabama.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
This year.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
They went up to Iowa State and lost to a
decimated Iowa State team in ames. But they continue to
run the ball, they continue to believe in each other.
They hunkered down and they became a team. Say what
you will about Mike Gundy. But that's the most consistent
guy in all of football, and it's not even close.
And it's amazing what he does it with and how
(29:55):
And then you sit there and look at sc and
all the offseason hype and all the BS just kind
of shrug my shoulders and say, if you can't stop
people from running the ball on you over and over
and over again, none of it means anything. So to me,
that's you know, I mean, it's that's not only egregious,
it's it's almost like, you know, building a house and
not building plumbing, just blowing it out all over the floor.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Petros papadak Is he is the co host of the
Petros and Money Show, which you could hear on the
blow towards AM five to seventy LA Sports. He is
a Fox College football analyst. And by the way, before
lets you go, you got two games you're doing this
weekend right for Fox?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
What are we looking at here?
Speaker 8 (30:35):
Yeah? Yeah, we have a we have a Saturday. Saturday
is a Big twelve game, sort of a middling Big
twelve game, Houston hosting Cincinnati. A couple of nude Big
twelve teams, and Houston just got a win though at
over Baylor, and then on Friday night exciting Mountain West
matchup Wyoming at UNLV.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Both teams pretty good in the Mountain West. This you're
still with title hope.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
So oh yeah, there it is at the Old pox
or Twitter.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Well, thank you, LeVar.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I appreciate it, you guys, absolutely all right. P We'll
do it again soon. You're the best.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Hey, where's big Head?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
He's off to day.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
You're gonna travel day.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
Wow, it was nice talking to you guys. This is
there on Monday, Jonas and we are.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Right there is the great Petross papadegas here on Fox
Sports Radio. It is Two Pros and a Cup of
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Speaker 3 (31:56):
Ah Sam.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Sam, How does Lee sald when he sees the Alpaca.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Hi ell high do today.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
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Speaker 2 (33:04):
Two pros and a cup of show what.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
If?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
At least if they're out?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
What do we got?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Have got an update on al the alpaca?
Speaker 9 (33:16):
Oh no, I hope they keep him out there basically
through Christmas. So he sits in this pen along with
a bunch of goats, pigs, ducks, a bunch of other things,
but he sticks out he's.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Why why only until Christmas?
Speaker 9 (33:30):
They put him out there during the holiday season and
then they ship him off and then they.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Think he's a reindeer. What does Christmas have to do it?
I have no idea out there.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
I've always wondered because I was worried that he wouldn't
come back.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
He was here last year and I was here this year.
I don't know where they put him. But who the
hell has a seasonal.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Outpac stressful man, that's stressful to relocate him like that.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I do worry about him.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
I worry about al and you know, and apparently I'm
worried about your out, the poor man out.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Where are you going out? Please don't go.
Speaker 9 (34:07):
And apparently the people who run this pumpkin patch slash
Christmas tree lot they're worried about people taking pictures of
the of the animals.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
They say, like, you.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
Can't take pictures unless you buy a pumpkin or whatever.
So now they've put a tarp over the fence part
that between these the animals and the sidewalk, so I
can't see al other than from an angle.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Then, then dress him up like a homeless guy. Okay,
put a sleeping bag around him, and if you want
to keep people away, come on.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I'm very upset about this.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Wow, that's pretty interesting. Jona like that. No, I didn't
like it.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Nobody say.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Like a homeless person. Cheez, guys.
Speaker 9 (34:47):
We have the fifty seventh Annual Country Music Awards tonight,
hosted by Peyton Manning Peyton.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Manning and on ABC Out and Out You're in? Is
it because of many No, it's because, uh, most award
shows are lame.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Like music too. But yes, this guy's a Peyton man
mostly because he's really good at what he does, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
And and it's just not not a fan because it's
the country music doesn't feel like country music anymore, feels
like more like pop.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Weeds, what are you trying to say?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Just feels more like pop music.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
What you're trying to say, Jon's it comes out of
you every once in a while, like your true colors
show up every once in a while.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
What you trying to say doesn't feel like country music anymore.
It feels like pop. And LeVar doesn't really like country music.
He likes that bad movie with Lady Gaga and like.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
The movie, but I love country music too, So.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Just stars born. Yes, guy guy hangs himself in front
of his dog. Well, what an owner he is.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
He didn't do it in front of the dog. He cloor.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I don't want to Ribbi. I'd like to go play catch.
You play catch with his shoes.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Jesuly, My god, good. I mean he flost him with
his laces. I gotta be some bone in my.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Teeth, my god.
Speaker 9 (36:08):
Phellas after taking election day off, that being the NBA,
NBA is back in a with a full slate of
games tonight.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Everybody's playing. You guys, enter out dabble some NBA tonight.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I mean, if it'll keep me away from the Cmas.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, I'm in.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
I'm in. I'll I'll be clicking in between.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
If you're looking for anything else.
Speaker 9 (36:30):
We got some more maction tonight, Bowling Green at Kent State,
acron at Miami, Ohio, Eastern Michigan at Toledo.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I need snow, and we got snow in the forecast
for any of those games.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
You can't dangle that in front of our face last
week and then just have bone dry conditions the week after.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I'll check it out a little bit. I'll check out
as much as I can, but I won't watch it
from like whistle to whistle and and you know, start
to finish, but I'll.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Watch well Cafe to ten. Who, yeah, I got.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I got an interview with coach Franklin in front of
the Quarterback Penn State Quarterback Club at at eleven forty five.
As soon as I finished, quite frankly, I'm gonna give
me some lunch and then I'm going to Cafe to ten. Yeah,
two ten, I'm coming.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
For you guys.
Speaker 9 (37:28):
It's a it's National Cappuccino Day. They have a picture
of this cappuccino with like a face on the phone.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Do you guys make faces in foam.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
Or like faces for breakfast for your kids, like.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You know with the bacon and eggs, making a happy
things like.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
It's just man. But if I could do it with
the phone, I would, But I just I just don't
know how to do it. And as far as pancakes
and bacon and all that stuff, like now, I don't
do that. But if I could do an interesting like
little artwork on the on the phone of the coffee,
I would.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
You don't need to get off fancy, just have a
black coffee.
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So couple of quarterback updates and a head coaching update
or rumor is probably the better word to use there.
Rumor as far as the head coach goes. Carson Wentz
(01:44):
is back, right, he is back. He has not played
since last year, but Carson Wentz is back. He will
serve his backup to Matt Stafford in LA So kind
of interesting that that was the spot and the destination
that he chose. But Brett Rippin filled in for Matt
Stafford this past weekend in Green Bay and it was
(02:05):
a diaper fire performance. Not well did he perform at all,
And they got just completely manhandled by a bad Green
Bay Packer team in lambeau Field. And so the LA
Rams decided, we've got to make a move, and so
Carson Wentz his back and he will serve ce back
up to Matt Stafford with the Rams there, So I
don't know where that lands with you of are if
(02:25):
you even care?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, listen, I care because it's it's football season, and
it's football. The Rams are a team that obviously is
not doing very well this year, and it's it's sad
because Aaron Donald is still wrecking games and still playing
at a very very high level.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And did you see that? I'm sorry, but did you
see the video? There's a clip online where he's getting
double teamed by two Packers offensive linemen and split some
gets around and makes a play like runs down the
back out of the backfield and it's like they're not
even there. It's just like he's he's that good still
(03:13):
at this stage of his career.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, he's still that good. And and that that league
gets buried by the losing and then you start to
ask yourself the question of what does that mean for
mcveigh's future and in Los Angeles, because this is two
years straight where this team is is underperforming. And and
(03:35):
so you look at Carson Wentz being brought in at
this at this juncture in time, what what are we
expecting from Carson Wentz on a three to win team?
I mean, if we're being honest, what what exactly would
(03:55):
the expectation be for Carson Wentz if, by chance he
takes over as the starting quarterback of this team. I mean,
what are you looking for, right because, I mean, let's
look at their schedule. They have the Seahawks, that's going
to be a tough one for them. They have the
(04:16):
Cardinals that that's their evenly match. But then you have
the Browns that's a gifted defense there, and now they're
playing they'll probably be better on offense. Then they have
the Ravens that could be the hottest team in football
right now. They have the Commanders, which the Commanders are
always a threat. You're not going to look at them
(04:40):
and say that's a that's a given loss. But you're
not going to look at the Commanders and say that's
a given win either. The Saints are improving, the Giants
now who knows, and then they have the forty nine Ers, right,
So out of all those games, you have one, two, three,
(05:01):
out of the game's remaining, there's like and one of
those three is a possible. The Commander's game is a possible.
So you have two games that you should win and
a possible that you could win.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And also you mentioned the Cardinals with Kyler Murray back
as we've talked about and you've talked about.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Could get better.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, that's not a shouldn't prove like, that's not I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
He makes them better by himself. He makes that team
all the way back, and we.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Know they play hard. So yeah, we could be looking
at a four or five win team at the end
of this whole thing.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Six tops, Yeah, six wins tops. So when you look
at that, what exactly are we supposed to say about
Carson Wentz Carson Wentz. If Carson Wentz were to come
into this scenario and give them more than three wins
and he was the starter for that, then then it's
a different conversation at the point in time that he
(05:55):
gets the four wins, five wins, you know, whatever it
may be, and you're talking about one of the I mean,
he would have to be up for comeback Player of
the Year.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I think in just the big picture, we're basically staring
at the end of this Rams era square in the eyes.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
It's over, and.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Carson Wentz's career. I mean, if you're gonna if the
segment is about Carson Wentz You're not only looking at
the end of an era for the la Rams, where
they're gonna have to at some point take a good,
heart long look at what they're going to do to
move into the future. But you're gonna look at careers
like Carson Wentz and you're gonna be like, you know,
(06:36):
this is what it is like. We need a quarterback
to back up this guy. We'll bring him in. He's
going to be a traveler. He'll move around, he might
not play much at all, he might get called in
due to an injury, this, that and the other, and
before long he'll disappear.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Now, the other piece of quarterback news we should get
to is the Tennessee Titans have determined they'd like to
get more of a look.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Of Will Levis.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
They'd like Will Lewis to go ahead, and yeah, imagine
that after the the past two performances, here was Mike Rabel,
the head coach of the Titans, talking about the decision
to switch to Levis as a starting quarterback moving.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Forward, going forward, you know, Will's gonna be our quarterback.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
We're gonna go with Will.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
We think that's the best opportunity for our football team
right now. And you know see where he's at. I
think Ryan will progress through here this week. I think,
you know, to be a backup for us and prepare
as a starter. But that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I think about it. We're pulling ten in Hill pulling him,
so that's a big move, like they're moving into the
future with their team, and will Levis is seemingly the guy.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I mean everything you've seen it, and we talked about
it last Friday after the Thursday night game against Pittsburgh,
Like the numbers maybe weren't there in the box score. Oh,
and he threw that late interception, but he's trying to
make a play. But if you just look at how
composed he is, how much more dynamic the offense with
him at quarterback, this is a no brainer. Like I mean,
(08:04):
if I'm Mike Rabel, if I'm a Titans fan, I'm
really excited about what this is going to look like
moving forward. Because this is somebody who you know slipped
in the draft. There was all sorts of stuff about
him and you know, work ethic or whether people got
along with him and instead he waited his turn, he
got his opportunity. He completely you know, lit it up.
(08:25):
The week before through the four touchdowns, and then he
went on the road in Pittsburgh against that defense and
had an opportunity at potentially winning that game. To me,
if I'm Mike Rabel and I'm the Titans, this was
a no brainer the whole way through.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Well, guys are getting getting some yards now, Phillips getting
yards as d hop if he's happy about having will
Levis in there as opposed to any other quarterback there,
and he probably tell you, hell yes. So you're building
the confidence of your players around you on the offense
right now because they believe even Will leftis Will Levis
(09:01):
and his ability to deliver what he's delivering. So I
think it's a You know, Mike, we've talked about AP
and Antonio Pierces during this show. Mike Vrabel is like
an original Antonio Peers right, Like he's he's one of
those guys who played in the league, played linebacker, hard
(09:22):
knows guy. But as a player's coach, he relates to
his players. He cares about his players, His players know
that he cares about him, and the things that he
does is very interactive and very very just just connected
to what what the environment of the culture is in Tennessee.
(09:43):
So I don't think he's lost that. I don't think
he's lost this locker room in any shape form any way.
And and so what he's going to do, he's going
to continue to try to build for the future. We
heard the rumors of what could possibly happen with trading
Henry or anything like that. Uh, they've been in some
(10:03):
some transition as of years late, trying to figure out
where where to go because they have not been able
to get over the hump with ten and Hill at
at at the quarterback's position. So you get in Levis.
Levis has that big arm. He's showing that he's learning
the game. He's adjusting and adapting to the NFL game,
(10:25):
and it looks like he's adjusting and adapting nicely to it.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You want to why here another rumor that's out there.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Let's let's hear the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Let's hear Jabari Arrington I have in my hands right here.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Okay, let me hear it. Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Okay, what you got the Boston Globe?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Okay, what is the Boston Globe have to do with Tennessee?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
According to the Boston Globe, two sources close to the
New England Patriots. Okay view Mike Rabel and Nick Cassario
the Texans gm as their quote unquote home run targets
to replace Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
What do you think about that? What do you think
about that?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
For I've been saying for the last couple of years,
does Bill Belichick's seat get hot? Everybody says he's sitting
on a glacier and there's no way that he could
lose his job, and this and that and the other.
Doesn't sound like that's continuing to be the main theme
and story of what's taking place in New England. Sounds
like people are getting a little bit restless and getting
(11:28):
a little tired of what they're seeing take place. And
there you know, at some point, there comes a point
in time where you got to think about it. Is
there going to be some necessary changes made?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
He ever felt underappreciated at your house? Almost like the
only time the only time you hear from people is
when you do something wrong or they're unhappy with you.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
It's it's never like it.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
If you're and that's all the time.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, And you know, like if you're one of the
people out there that are listening, going, yeah, I feel
the same way. In fact, you left early to go
to work in to go work early just because you
want to get out of the house fifteen minutes sooner
because you're retired of getting ridiculed.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
If you're listening to this, you can relate.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
With Bill Belichick for all he's done for that organization
in the past two decades, and everybody wants him out,
like we've all how quickly we've forgotten how great that
organization has been. And now you got the Boston Globe
writing up articles talking about Mike Vrabel and Nick Cassario
taking over the job.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Hey, you know what was it spelled backwards?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Saul?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Damn?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
If you was doing well, if you was getting it
done and that was continues to be a was, you're
gonna have to flip that word around. You're gonna have
to sew that bat. You're gonna have to saw it off.
So just be careful when you would you become az
when you that was for too long, You're gonna have
(12:52):
to deal with the saw.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I'm a I'm a Bill Belichick guy, So I hope
you wait to sold thing out. In fact, I hope
Bill Belichick tells Robert Craft. I dare you to fire me.
I dare you to fire me?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Okay, anything else.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
And you know what if Bill Belichick does get fired,
you know what does she do on his on his
exit press conference, he should say, you know what, I
think I'm gonna take some time to myself. I'm gonna
go hang out at you know, a massage parlor in Jupiter, Florida,
and just go ahead and just take my time there.
Just real petty, nice, little nice little to the ribs
of robber Craft. You know, something a little dig inside there,
(13:30):
little body work inside.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, yeah, I have fun with that.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Thank you, coach.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
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Speaker 3 (13:42):
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Speaker 1 (14:44):
He is Petros Papadakis. He is the co host of
the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on
the blowtorch Am five seven e LA Sports. He is
a Fox College football analyst and you can get him
on x slash Twitter at the old p PE. Good morning,
what's happening?
Speaker 8 (14:59):
Good morning everybod buddy, Hello morning, Hello LaVar, Hey, good
morning morning.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So uh Petros. LeVar has been getting some pushback from
people on social media.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
LeVar, you want to explain.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Why I don't have no problems with That's my former teammate.
I have no problems with with RC and I know
there's been interesting back back and forth between him and Q,
but I don't have it. You know, they're saying I
got to pick a side. You know, it is what
it is. But anyway, I made mention of I had
(15:32):
an opinion on Caleb Williams uh mother's arms, jumping into
the stands to cry in his mother's arms. What what
What was your take on it? Like, did you have
a takeaway from it? Did you think nothing of it
at all? Like I've been getting a little pushback on
my Well, what was your take LeVar? Uh? I think
(15:54):
there's a time and place for everything, and I just
think the you know, the fabric of what football is
is built on and based on is turning young young
boys and young guys into men. It's it's almost it's
the closest thing to being in the military without being
in the military. It's a man's game, and so to me,
(16:17):
it's it's you know, a lot of people were giving
me flak in terms of basically saying that it comes
across as insensitive or you know, I'm I'm the reason
why young men have mental health issues because I'm basically saying, uh,
you know, take your motions and bury they tuck them away.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Listen, I didn't I see what you did there?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
You can. You can go into the animals and see
when we lost the Minnesota my last year in school,
I was my dad had to come get me out
of the locker room. I collapsed to the ground. What's
the keyword there? Out of the locker room? Exactly out
of the locker room. So there's a time and a
place for everything. But what what's your take on it?
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Well, I was a lot more and not like I
get upset about these things.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
But I was not. Clearly, I was not upset. I
was not perturbed by him doing what.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
You know, a lot of people weren't, like, you know,
I mean, if it was a Penn State guy, you
know a lot of people you would start to know, like, wow,
all these people are upset, you know, like I'm a
USC guy. So a lot of people were upset about it,
Like a lot of people that never even played football
were upset.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
About it.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
I did not like the Utah one right where he
sat there and looked super dejected, knowing that all the
cameras are on him, had to show them how disappointed
he was, had to be coaxed off the bench by
one of those towel waving guys. And when it comes
to family, you never know what's going on in someone's family,
(17:52):
you know, and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
So and I said that, of course I'm not saying
if somebody was sick, like if his mom was sick
or somebody sick in the family, I would apologize profusely
in terms of having the take that I did, because
I do not know if there was any other circumstances
connected to him doing that outside of the game. But
if I'm keeping it, if I make the the opinion
(18:17):
and I'm keeping it, apples to apples, it's because you
lost this game. I thought it was a bad look.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
Yeah, there was a lot of people that would say,
I mean, they don't want to say it in public,
but they would say, you know, after the Utah thing,
and after you know, the nail painting and all the
different things that have been reported and some of the
things he said, especially recently that it was performative. But
(18:43):
I mean, look to me, it's always a general rule
of thumb. If I was a coach, or if anybody
asked me my advice, it's get up the tunnel when
the game is over, especially if you lose. If you
know somebody on the other team, or somebody recruited you,
or there's somebody to give a hug, to go ahead
(19:03):
and do that. If you're too pissed off to shake hands,
that's okay too. Get up the tunnel. Get up the tunnel,
Get up the tunnel. Don't you're done playing, You're you're
on a team. It's not about you as an individual,
even though as much as it is when the game
is over and you've lost, get up the tunnel. That
(19:24):
that would always be my message when I was an
older player. Look after my very first football game, I
thought I had been through a lot, most of it
self inflicted. Not my very first game, but my very
first game. I scored a touchdown in you know, I
remember crying in my well, my father's arms, you know,
in the tunnel, out out, you know, in in and
(19:48):
out of the locker room after the game, in the.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Tunnel, What did your dad say to you you nothing.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
You know, it was just an emotional moment.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
You loser, no Ah, that to me, you know, that's
that's just And it doesn't have to be Caleb Williams.
It could be anybody. Get get up the tunnel. But
it is amazing how the equity of faith and love
(20:19):
that was raining down upon Caleb Williams nationally and locally
in many ways has evaporated. Uh and mostly because of
just the overall USC football teams play and it is
a team sport. You know, he is a great individual player,
but I don't know if playing to his individual talents
(20:40):
has really helped us he develop as a team the
last couple of years. I mean, they were eleven and
what they won eleven games last year and or they
they are falling to pieces and it's it's going to
be hard to see where the next victory is coming from.
They're going up to you, Gene. You know they're gonna
(21:01):
have to play a tough UCLA team. You know, this
is not this is not gonna be pretty because they've
lost their motivation for a national title. This guy still
might win a Heisman, but it's not a great scene
over there. And I agree with you to me, it's
something that should be up the tunnel, but when it's
a family thing, you never know. But uh, you know
(21:24):
that's a that was some serious sobbing.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
It was some real shoulder shaking. Yeah. Oh man, belly
belly ache and belly moven. I just listen. Tell me
this because I've asked every football player that I've talked
to since this happened, and asked a question, how many
times have you not seen your family when you come
out of the locker room when they're at the game.
(21:48):
How many times has your family came to a game
and did not come see you when you came up
out of that locker room.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
My grandmother, the Great Angie Papadakis, Okay, they God, let
rest her soul. They used to bring boxes of the
little soldiers, you know. They we owned liquor stores when
I was a kid.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Uh and uh.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
You know I I your grandma Crumpete, Yes she did,
And I got twelve little bottles of freaking Johnny Walker
Red to show, you know, and we'd be on the plane,
you know, and enjoy that. You know what I'm saying is, yes,
your family is always there.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
You know, You've never there's not been one time you
did not see them when you came out with your people.
Don't understand that you sweatsuit on right. That's and that's
my point, Like, if you know all of the inner
workings of all of this, that's something that you you'd
have more than enough time to weep in your mom's
arms and on her shoulder and with your dad and
your family. Get to like you said, get to and
(22:51):
they teach you this, get to the locker room, collect
your thoughts. They don't let the media right in because
they give you a little bit of time to kind
of like get the emotions of the game.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Not a great love, not a great look for a
team leader, you know, that kind of stuff. But I mean, look,
and I've seen some of the greats of the game,
guys that are Hall of famers, you know, like you
have LeVar, totally lose their composure, cry, scream, you know,
wreck the locker room, break stuff, fight others.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
You know.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
I mean, it's football, for God's sakes, But these are
things that that we try to keep because it's a team,
because it's a team.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Sport, you know.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
But uh, but but you know, I mean the whole
Caleb Williams thing. He's becoming about as much of an
individual as you can be while playing a team sport.
And it's happened this year and I don't think it's
up to US's benefit. I don't think anybody could argue.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Do you think that's a Nile driven you know? I
don't even know, uh, you know it's the Yeah, I don't.
You know.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
The NIL thing confuses me so much because, like you
see these dinners that they have like at USC and
it's like all these people that I know that get
invited like cool people, and they're all there talking about
the NIL or having a conversation about the NIL, and
it's like, unless you're super rich, why are you involved, right,
(24:16):
unless you're going to give them a million dollars to
give to some of the players, you know, what, what
are you doing showing up in an NIL event? I
don't I don't understand, right, And I know it's not
pay to play necessarily, but it totally is. And if
let's say Caleb Williams said, well I've done everything I could,
(24:37):
I'm going to shut it down. You know something that
like maybe some ill advised advice from like Acho or something.
Let's say he took that you know, and and upset
absolutely because gms and stuff want to see you finish
a season. But let's say he did that, would the
nil still people still pay him? Would they have to?
(25:01):
You know, I don't. I don't understand. It's such a
wild West. The schools aren't involved, but they are. You know,
it's uh, let's just say it's it's less confusing than
uh than nuclear math. But other than that, it's it's
pretty It's hieroglyphic to me.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Petris Papadegas joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. So,
p I gotta ask you. Colorado made a move. Deon
Sanders made a move this past week, Lewis, Yeah, what
what do.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
You make of that? Because this was a guy you're trying.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
To protect his son and reflect some of the blame
of the offense on his son. Who I mean, changing
the play caller is not going to change the old
line or the identity of the team that you've created already.
You know, you got that guy away from Kent State,
where he was a head coach and a relatively successful
one in the MAC He was doing quite well, and
(25:55):
he takes that job to be your play caller and
you embarrass him and strip him of his duties mid
season because your son's limping around. I mean, I I
that's that's how I read it. But it's a race
to the finish to see who's gonna come apart at
the seams worse Colorado or USC is the season goes off,
(26:16):
which is amazing, right, But.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
What what's the most surprising part?
Speaker 8 (26:20):
I remember that game and you had everybody there, and
everybody was on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
And everybody celebrities, right, everybody the chip.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
What's the most what's the most surprising part of the
USC demise this year?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Is it?
Speaker 8 (26:39):
Is it just the I mean, I just guess, you know,
just to be that susceptible to the run as a
USC college football team is amazing. And you know, I
we we lost, you know, five games or more. You
know a couple times when I was at USC, we
were terrible. But you couldn't run power on seven times
(27:00):
in a row. You know, a lot of our problems
were on offense, and my god, Carson Palmer was our quarterback.
But I mean you just like, that's not the sport
I grew up in. If you play at USC and
they run power down your throat like that and just
(27:21):
make you quit physically. And a running back that no
one has ever heard of, because Washington barely runs the
ball comes out and has like a Charles White OJ
Simpson game against you. Then you're not playing USC footballs.
You're not, you know. I remember we I called a
game a couple of years back, Clay Hilton's era, and
(27:45):
it was Oregon State SSE. Oregon State won their first
game in the coliseum since, like I think forever, and
they had two big tight ends, Teagan Quatriano and Luke
Musk greg Rave I think both are in the NFL now.
US he didn't even have a tight end or practice
against tight ends, and Oregon State ran them over. They
(28:05):
had like three hundred yards rushing, maybe more. And I
remember driving home and my teammates, guys I played with,
they don't contact me very much, would you? I mean,
I'm awful, but I remember, you know, especially about football,
you know. But I remember driving home that night and
guys on the team being like, were we that bad?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
You know? Could would that?
Speaker 8 (28:27):
And I said, well no, not in that way, Like
you couldn't run, you couldn't just humiliate by pulling guards
and running the ball on us and just basically pitting
us down and laughing at us in front of our
home fans. And that's what's been happening to USC week
in and week out. Hell, I did USC Colorado last year.
(28:48):
Colorado had like a half of a win last year,
but they ran the ball on see, you know, And
to me, that's, you know, just this weird seven on
seven stuff that USC and Colorado are playing, which is
going out of style in the world of football. I mean,
Mike Gundhy is the guy that used to play faster
(29:09):
than anybody, and he's getting in the I formation, getting
under center, and they have a back running for three
hundred yards a game in Oklahoma State and they're not
I mean, I did that team twice at the beginning
of the season. They built into that, they grew into
that playing together and being physical. They got beat by
(29:29):
South Alabama. They got their ass kicked at home by
South Alabama.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
This year.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
They went up to Iowa State and lost to a
decimated Iowa State team in ames. But they continue to
run the ball, they continue to believe in each other.
They hunkered down and they became a team. Say what
you will about Mike Gundy. But that's the most consistent
guy in all of football, and it's not even close.
And it's amazing what he does it with and how
(29:55):
And then you sit there and look at sc and
all the offseason hype and all the BS just kind
of shrug my shoulders and say, if you can't stop
people from running the ball on you over and over
and over again, none of it means anything. So to me,
that's you know, I mean, it's that's not only egregious,
it's it's almost like, you know, building a house and
not building plumbing, just blowing it out all over the floor.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Petros papadak Is he is the co host of the
Petros and Money Show, which you could hear on the
blow towards AM five to seventy LA Sports. He is
a Fox College football analyst. And by the way, before
lets you go, you got two games you're doing this
weekend right for Fox?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
What are we looking at here?
Speaker 8 (30:35):
Yeah? Yeah, we have a we have a Saturday. Saturday
is a Big twelve game, sort of a middling Big
twelve game, Houston hosting Cincinnati. A couple of nude Big
twelve teams, and Houston just got a win though at
over Baylor, and then on Friday night exciting Mountain West
matchup Wyoming at UNLV.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Both teams pretty good in the Mountain West. This you're
still with title hope.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
So oh yeah, there it is at the Old pox
or Twitter.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Well, thank you, LeVar.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I appreciate it, you guys, absolutely all right. P We'll
do it again soon. You're the best.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Hey, where's big Head?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
He's off to day.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
You're gonna travel day.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
Wow, it was nice talking to you guys. This is
there on Monday, Jonas and we are.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Right there is the great Petross papadegas here on Fox
Sports Radio. It is Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe here on FSR. Coming up next here we're gonna
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Speaker 2 (31:40):
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Speaker 3 (31:56):
Ah Sam.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Sam, How does Lee sald when he sees the Alpaca.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Hi ell high do today.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
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Speaker 2 (33:04):
Two pros and a cup of show what.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
If?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
At least if they're out?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
What do we got?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Have got an update on al the alpaca?
Speaker 9 (33:16):
Oh no, I hope they keep him out there basically
through Christmas. So he sits in this pen along with
a bunch of goats, pigs, ducks, a bunch of other things,
but he sticks out he's.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Why why only until Christmas?
Speaker 9 (33:30):
They put him out there during the holiday season and
then they ship him off and then they.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Think he's a reindeer. What does Christmas have to do it?
I have no idea out there.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
I've always wondered because I was worried that he wouldn't
come back.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
He was here last year and I was here this year.
I don't know where they put him. But who the
hell has a seasonal.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Outpac stressful man, that's stressful to relocate him like that.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I do worry about him.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
I worry about al and you know, and apparently I'm
worried about your out, the poor man out.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Where are you going out? Please don't go.
Speaker 9 (34:07):
And apparently the people who run this pumpkin patch slash
Christmas tree lot they're worried about people taking pictures of
the of the animals.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
They say, like, you.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
Can't take pictures unless you buy a pumpkin or whatever.
So now they've put a tarp over the fence part
that between these the animals and the sidewalk, so I
can't see al other than from an angle.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Then, then dress him up like a homeless guy. Okay,
put a sleeping bag around him, and if you want
to keep people away, come on.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I'm very upset about this.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Wow, that's pretty interesting. Jona like that. No, I didn't
like it.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Nobody say.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Like a homeless person. Cheez, guys.
Speaker 9 (34:47):
We have the fifty seventh Annual Country Music Awards tonight,
hosted by Peyton Manning Peyton.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Manning and on ABC Out and Out You're in? Is
it because of many No, it's because, uh, most award
shows are lame.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Like music too. But yes, this guy's a Peyton man
mostly because he's really good at what he does, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
And and it's just not not a fan because it's
the country music doesn't feel like country music anymore, feels
like more like pop.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Weeds, what are you trying to say?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Just feels more like pop music.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
What you're trying to say, Jon's it comes out of
you every once in a while, like your true colors
show up every once in a while.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
What you trying to say doesn't feel like country music anymore.
It feels like pop. And LeVar doesn't really like country music.
He likes that bad movie with Lady Gaga and like.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
The movie, but I love country music too, So.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Just stars born. Yes, guy guy hangs himself in front
of his dog. Well, what an owner he is.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
He didn't do it in front of the dog. He cloor.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I don't want to Ribbi. I'd like to go play catch.
You play catch with his shoes.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Jesuly, My god, good. I mean he flost him with
his laces. I gotta be some bone in my.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Teeth, my god.
Speaker 9 (36:08):
Phellas after taking election day off, that being the NBA,
NBA is back in a with a full slate of
games tonight.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Everybody's playing. You guys, enter out dabble some NBA tonight.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I mean, if it'll keep me away from the Cmas.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, I'm in.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
I'm in. I'll I'll be clicking in between.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
If you're looking for anything else.
Speaker 9 (36:30):
We got some more maction tonight, Bowling Green at Kent State,
acron at Miami, Ohio, Eastern Michigan at Toledo.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I need snow, and we got snow in the forecast
for any of those games.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
You can't dangle that in front of our face last
week and then just have bone dry conditions the week after.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I'll check it out a little bit. I'll check out
as much as I can, but I won't watch it
from like whistle to whistle and and you know, start
to finish, but I'll.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Watch well Cafe to ten. Who, yeah, I got.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I got an interview with coach Franklin in front of
the Quarterback Penn State Quarterback Club at at eleven forty five.
As soon as I finished, quite frankly, I'm gonna give
me some lunch and then I'm going to Cafe to ten. Yeah,
two ten, I'm coming.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
For you guys.
Speaker 9 (37:28):
It's a it's National Cappuccino Day. They have a picture
of this cappuccino with like a face on the phone.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Do you guys make faces in foam.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
Or like faces for breakfast for your kids, like.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You know with the bacon and eggs, making a happy
things like.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
It's just man. But if I could do it with
the phone, I would, But I just I just don't
know how to do it. And as far as pancakes
and bacon and all that stuff, like now, I don't
do that. But if I could do an interesting like
little artwork on the on the phone of the coffee,
I would.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
You don't need to get off fancy, just have a
black coffee.
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