December 7, 2023 • 39 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Robert Saleh backs the return of Zach Wilson to the starting spot. The guys are excited for the weather report on TNF between the Pats and Steelers. Josh Dobb is rightfully under center for the Vikes. Plus emergency surgery, ghost stories and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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least one half of it. We're going to talk about
the Jets in their quarterback situation and history involving the
New England Patriots, and also we'll throw in the Pittsburgh
(00:20):
Steelers as well too. Plus we're going to talk about
a quarterback who is apparently good enough to start yet
again and as not being the fall guy for one organization.
We've also got some hotted house stories from LeVar Arrington
and some NBA players as well too. We've got somebody
who's feuding with a media member on social media and
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(00:41):
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Speaker 1 (01:05):
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we would start off with cause it's kind of you know,
pick a card, any card, and you're dealing with a
deck of diaper fires. And so what do we want
to go with? Do we want to start with Thursday
night football? And the point total that is historically low, Yeah,
been thirty years since we've seen a total in the
NFL at thirty points, and that's where we're at with
(02:09):
the Patriots and Steelers. Or we could talk about the
other diaper fire that happens to belong to the AFC East,
and that is the New York Jets and their quarterback decision.
Good Christ, what a mess man.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
You go ahead and pick Thursday football.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm kind of moving past the whole Aaron Rodgers and
the Jets and all that, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean not a big fan of the Robert Sala
commentary yesterday announcing his decision. As steadfast as he was
he was going to.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Be, he seemed like a beaten man. He really should
he should.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I mean, he has kind of waffled back and forth
in between who's going to be the starter, who's not
going to be the starter. Can we just just for
is in giggles, can we just play the Robert Sala
talking about the decision of who's going to be the
quarterback and why it's Zach Wilson now and why they
(03:09):
had to move on from Tim Boyle because it just sounds.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So it's back to Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I just I just want to mention this because it
is simps love. It is eerily simple.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Loves it to love Jonas from give it to Jonas?
Here what you did? All right?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So here? Damn all right? So here it is Robert
Sala going back on his word from just a couple.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Of days ago.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Zach gives us our best chance to win and uh,
giving another opportunity to.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Go prove that. How did that conversation go when you
called him?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
He's good, He's fired up. Like I said on Monday,
he came into my office. He wants to boughts the
ball and he's excited about in this opportunity to finish
the season strong. It's always believed here's the best best
quarterback in terms of giving us a chance to win.
You know, Tim and Trevor trying to spark to all
(04:00):
fence and all that and uh and those short, fairy
talented quarterbacks. Don't get me wrong, but uh but in
my opinion, uh, Zach gives us the best chance to one.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Tim's awesome.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You know, we all loved him, but this is more
just trying to get another arm in here, Ritt and
just see what he is. It's pretty unique though, you go,
I mean he was a starter for two games that
just boom cut. No, I know it's it's that's a
good question, but you know it's unfortunate the way when
it's come about. I got it, and it's uh, that's
part of the part of the crappy part of the league.
(04:32):
He got his opportunity. We appreciate him, and uh, we're
not saying that he won't come back in terms of practice,
squad and.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
All of them.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So there's the the very latest one.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
So basically what he's saying is, I'll say the same
exact things about Zach Wilson next week and bring Tim
Boyle back and say that the same exact things about
Tim Boyle that I'm saying about Zach Wilson right now.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Is that is that where we're heading?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
If he always felt like Zach Wilson gave them the
best chance to.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Win the why did you go away from that?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't. That's That's why I asked the question.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I'm not there yet.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Who's calling the shots, Like, who's making the decision? Is
this Joe Douglas, Is this him? Is it Woody Johnson?
Is it?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
None of it at like none of it makes sense?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You guys do yesterday. I feel like this is a
groundhog day? Are you really we had the same conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
No, That's why I said, like what that It gets
back to that original question the shots.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
I'll say this, the last time we had this conversation,
you do know that the guy ended up getting fired.
You guys do realize that the last time we had
this conversation about directly who is calling the shots, because
it doesn't sound like the court of the coach is
really necessarily calling the shots here, he ended up being
(05:45):
fired and that's your coach in Carolina. So is this
the same situation that's kind of emerging?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I mean, I don't think they'll move on from Robert
Salah understanding the situation that that he was in this
year with Rogers going down what four places in the season.
I just I think they'll give him to him next year.
But like next year, without a doubt, is a make
or break year, Like that is it? I would think
at least, I don't know. Look, maybe I'm wrong, but
(06:15):
I don't think they're gonna I just I can't imagine
they're gonna make a big, wholesale, sweeping change because this
comes off to me like it's not Robert Solom making
some of these decisions, but he's the one that has
to go to the podium and speak and be accountable
for that.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
That's how it comes off and feels to me watching it.
And they've got a ton of leaks in there, They've got.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
A ton of stuff going on.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I just it feels like he's putting a tough spot
and you can see it on him every time, like, yeah,
he told me Monday he wants the ball, Like okay, yeah,
Like that sounds like something from a movie, like a
coach I went back and I want the ball?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You know, Okay, who says that?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
All right?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Let me ask you this is this worse than when
Charlie Frye was the starter of your rookie year, got
benched at halftime and then was cut after being named
team captain before the opener, Like, which is worse?
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
This is worse because it's Druggne for a long period
of time. Like what was bad about that was all
the reps, all the time, everything else that you invested
into a player that after one half of football you
completely turned course and then traded him Like.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
That was that was bad?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
But this is still the same situation where you've got
a ton of time money invested.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Into a player and then you keep like putting him in, putting.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Back out, putting it like you're almost you're like almost
hurting and stunting that growth of that player by how
you're handling it. Like at least they allowed like Charlie
an opportunity to move on like early in the season
somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That's the key. That's the key.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
If they would do what Brady just said Jonas and
just let let him go like Dell Deltam or whatever
it is they needed to do. Robert Salah, even in
Aaron Rodgers' injury, could have been able to really really
manage this in a way where we lost Aaron Rodgers,
like we're going to do the best that we can do,
(08:15):
and that's that's all we have. Instead, he has to
deal with the continued saga and soap opera of Zack
Wilson in the Days of our Lives, like that's what's
going on here, and that is purely based around Zack
Wilson and whatever the infatuation is of the coverage of
Zack Wilson and Robert Sala has failed miserably on how
(08:39):
he's handled it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And it also feels like they're listening to people on
the outside way too much, because if you if you
looked at the quarterback situation in New York, it's been
obvious and we've talked about it. Zack Wilson has been
the best quarterback and has given them the best chance
to win. Yet for some reason they let outside voice
(09:00):
tell them, no, you got to get somebody else in there. No,
he can't do it. There's got to be somebody else
in there. And it's like multiple years in a row,
somebody else has gone in there, and with the exception
of Mike White, who really had what one decent game,
it just it hasn't worked out. And for some reason,
they just listen to everybody else's opinion on the outside
and then go back to what if we're to believe
(09:21):
what he says, which is tough at this point, but
if we're to believe what he says that we've always
felt Zach gave us the best chance to win, why'd.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
You move on?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
He didn't get hurt. He has played better than last year,
like despite what anybody wants to say. And yet here
we are again and they're cutting another quarterback who just
started a game.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Because he had the fail Mary, the pick six on
the fail Mary on Black Friday. Come on, the game was.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Already overlay, just completely backfu.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I mean, what that's not Tim Boyle's fault.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Though, I know, but there's one of those plays.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Are like, man, all right, God, I'm hoping to pray
that this thing, this thing gets into the ends.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Like it will what you drop back to lots of
that thing? Oh oh wait, what happened? Oh no, oh.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
No, it's just the whole building's terrible. And I just
it really feels like everything they're hearing from the outside
matters to them, Like, oh, well, you know, people are
telling us we got to move on from okay and
you saw the results, like you saw what happens.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
We're doing the same exact conversation yesterday.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, well listen, all right, let's let's transition over to
another team. Yeah, and we're talking a lot of Super
Bowls between these two teams.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It's more likely to be back Bill Belichick or Robert.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Salaw Robert sala which which is shocking.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I think they're both going to be out.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Thirty is the over under for this game. Between the
Steelers and the New England Patriots talk about too proud franchises.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
What's the weather supposed to be like to in Pittsburgh? Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Good, call, let's look that up.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
It's not supposed to be good. I don't think.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Effort this here? Is it still Acupuncture Stadium?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I mean, don't you well, I don't think you have
to put in that exact address. I think Pittsburgh still works.
Don't you have the weather channel U jonahs like always?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, but they're they're showing something.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
The mountain mountains are probably blocking. Yeah, there's snow on
the mountains.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, there's uh.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
We uh gun.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Gun up. What do you got for the weather there?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So I like, so some people would just go Pittsburgh
in general. I'm gonna go zip code specific on just
the state.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, because like in Chicago, if you want the weather
at Soldier Field six six oh five, if you wanted
it at Wrigley Field, it's six oh six one three,
big difference, huge difference there.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Micro climates they call it jonas.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
All right, So here we go Pittsburgh. Is that what
they call it?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yes, that's what they call it.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Varies from place to place, all right. So here we
go that we are looking at slappy.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Uh we slappy.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I'm still efforting.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Still we sloppy.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I told you we got Wi Fi problems here.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's not I think it's usual now.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I'm telling you we got Wi Fi issues here, all right,
So give me one second.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
All right, here's what Pittsburgh looks like for tonight. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, that's about to do high a forty six low
low of thirty six, and the win the most important
looks like it shouldn't be too bad. About six miles
per hour, So should be a good good fall night
winter night.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
What we're gonna call it right now?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
For some football that was was that zip code specific
or was that just a general Pittsburgh overview?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
It was general Pittsburgh because we're up against the break
and you somehow have.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Not been able to deliver.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
All right, So here we go. This is there's no rain,
I mean, this is what I'm looking at here, all right.
You tell me if this differs. I'm looking at eight
o'clock Eastern time tonight, forty two degrees, partly cloudy. Half
a wins southwest at six miles an hour, but it
does feel like thirty eight degrees according to the zip
(13:27):
code specific search.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's actually perfect football weather. Yeah, it really is, like you.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Love that, Yeah, and so you feel like that's going
to impact Maybe we get a shootout here.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Fifty two moderate for New England? Is it going to
be back Jones?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Bailey's appy, I said, Bailey Zapp, you made some comment yesterday.
I think it was where he said, I think you
He said, I think it's pretty obvious who the starter is.
But I'll like coach say that or whatever. So Bailey's
at it feels like we're going to get zapped later
on tonight.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Does it feel like like us getting zap gives them
a better chance of winning?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
No? Yeah, I don't feel that way either.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Right ZAPPI versus Trubisky. So that's what we're getting later
on today.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
They said the wind chill will make it feel like
it's twenty eight degrees, humidity seventy six percent, pressure thirty
point ten I n HG for low and a high
visibility ten miles. It's perfectly clear.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And now you have your.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Weather report from Pittsburgh for the stillers. Now in the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I can guarantee you one thing that is going to
be featured at this game later on tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And it's something that you.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Guys have waxed poetically about when it comes to games
in Pittsburgh at either Hinzfield or Acupuncture Stadium, whatever the
case may be, a little bit of this, yeah, a
little bit of this.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You're gonna play from the beginning though, that's what they like,
the beat really gets.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But Sam, can we get it from the beginning? Why not?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
It's such a it's such a long build up.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
You want, you want the a cappella coming in?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Sam's never been there, he doesn't know no Pittsburgh. It's
it's you've been to Pittsburgh. I've been there a game.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Yeah, I actually saw Iowa playing pitt at Hinesfield at
the time.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Exact same thing, sticks Renegade in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yep, that was not an NFL game.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Sam. I would argue the intro is better than the
actual course.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Hey, by the way, this is a classic Sam. He's
been there in the stadium, so of course he takes
full responsibility of saying I've been there, I've witnessed this
this before, even though he actually has not ever seen
in a Pittsburgh Steelers home stadium game sticks Renegade going
in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Sam, can we play from the beginning? Please?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's been too long of a build up, that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Oh how long are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Was it like? It's like it's like a minute.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Maybe this is bad radio, but you have to play
the you have to turn the base up.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
This is so much better than the actual course, Coop,
am I crazy? So much better?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Understand?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
This is when they get the terrible towel started. Oh yeah,
they have the jumbo tron stuff going on. Come on, yeah,
you understand. See sample's there for an Iowa pit game.
You've got to be there for a Steelers dude. Yeah,
entirely different.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
The pit marching band did a crop circle Democrat by.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
The way, late lay the points with the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, here it is.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, come on, this.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Is where they just punched Sam right in the face.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Risky back to throw he's got picking up dead.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
As a scarred Chicago fan, Jonas, are you not anticipating
this being anywhere close?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, I would say I do like Trubisky more than most.
I felt like he was sort of the fall guy
for Matt Naggi and that whole disaster that too, because listen,
Mentor Ohio guy, you know, that's that's how we feel
about it. But he's uh, he's made a lot of
appearances for Kenny Pop.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Mixed up Trubisky being from Mentor and then Drew Aller
being from Medina to Ohio guys though, Yeah, but they
both mister Ohio's was not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, well, listen, it's gonna be a both representing p A.
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
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Speaker 2 (17:39):
At the right.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
So, I mean there's the conversation of Robert. We heard
some are coming back. Some say he's coming back, yes,
some is saying he's going.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I mean you're already calling your shot. He thinks all
those gone. Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I think it's a strong possibility.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Damn all right. So a strong possibility is we're gonna
have another edition of In case you missed it coming
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unders as we look ahead to this blockbuster matchup later
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NFL regarding their quarterback and it was the right one.
We'll tell you who that is next.
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Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh yeah, you know what movie?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Oh yeah, Chevy Chase looking at the pool, the invisible pool.
There you go, and that rocket ship on the diving board?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Is that funny?
Speaker 5 (19:22):
I think they could have added to that scene once
the the kid walked in of he turned around, it
could have been better right there?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yes, yeah, I agree. All right, we're on the same page.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
By the way, how do you guys feel about National
Lampoon's Christmas Vacation versus a Christmas Story?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What are you going with Christmas Vacation?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I thought that too until about two years ago. It's
kind of corny.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Christmas Story is pretty cool, man, It's pretty classic. They're
both classics. I wouldn't choose. I'd have to go with both.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
By the way, the Christmas Story houses in Ohio?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Do you know that? Brady? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Still there?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Realthy? Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I don't find it quite as entertaining as I do
Christmas Vacation, but it is cool at Cooper's was in Christmas?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (20:16):
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Or excuse me? Christmas Story? Was it? Really? He wasn't.
That would be awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
It looks like him that would be awesome. A Lee
did was your dad. Did he have any involvement since
you like to drop those tidbits on the show that
your dad had involvement in this movie that movie.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Like yeah, you played Biff, you know, and and in
Christmas Story, you know, the little the Little Bully before
he grew up and turned into the bit Bully and uh,
back to the Future, I'm.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Talking to human fly. Yeah, no connections with my my
favorite one of my favorite Lee stories is I tell
him I was like, yeah, I went to Universal Studios.
He goes, oh nice ide. You laugh, like, yeah, I
never been. We went down the Jurassic Park ride and
all that. He goes, oh, yeah, my dad designed that
Tyrannosaurus Rex at the end. Wait what Yeah, I just
(21:05):
just designed it, Okay, Like, way to drop that tidbit.
He was also in Back to the Future. He was
also it's unbelievable, like You've got so many like inside
details and stories about your dad you'd never drop on
the air. He's an interesting guy.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Yeah, many lives lived by mister Lee Roberts Lap the II.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, and you can IMDb that if you want. You
can look up lead to Lap the drummer for the
Pinheads and back to the future. If you doubt the
credibility of this show. He was almost Marty McFly. Let's see,
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Eric Stoltz had the role for a few for a
few weeks to a few months, and then, uh, my
dad was roommates with Eric Stoltz, and he actually was
booked for a day before Marty, before Michael J. Fox
walked off set of what's the name of that show?
He was on Family Family Ties.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah, so your dad would have been McFly calls me.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, it wouldn't have been. It wouldn't have been as
big a movie.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
No, wouldn't have They wouldn't have none. I think it
would have. I think it would have been better. That
movie sucks now because your dad wasn't McFly. That's how
I feel about it.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
What's your dad's name?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Same as mine?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
But he goes by Robert to Lette?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, oh Robert, Yeah, look it up. All right, So
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coach in the NFL, apparently as a superpower, and we
know why it is. We will hear that coming up
here again. Less than twenty minutes from now here on FSR, Hey,
apparently something amazing happened during the bye week in Minnesota.
(22:39):
They've decided, Kevin O'Connell and company, that Josh Dobbs will
be your starting quarterback. He's going to get the start
this Sunday at the Raiders. Do the Vikings have next
on their schedule, so it'll be Josh Dobbs in Vegas
with the return of Justin Jefferson. So although everybody tries
to play up the turnover problem that was the last game,
and he pointed out on this show a lot of deflected,
(23:02):
tipped interceptions things like that, not every interception is the
same as the other one. And Josh Dobbs is going
to get a chance with Justin Jefferson back in the
lineup this Sunday at Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, the crazy thing was, despite the four interceptions and
there was one bad one in there, but one one
right through Jordan Addison's hands. There's a couple of the
deflections that got picked off.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
It happens, but they still had a shot to win
in the end. It ultimately didn't work out. But I
think his athletic potential as far as taking off running, scrambling,
making a bad play into something. It's got to be
the biggest difference between you know, him and Jaron Hall,
him and Nick Mullens. You know, Jared Hall has some
of those skill sets and traits, but he's not as
(23:47):
experienced being that he's a rookie, and Mullens doesn't have
even as much experience as Dobbs. So I think you
give him a shot. You know, see how it goes
with Justin Jefferson in there. Dobbs done a tremendous job
adapting the diferent systems and this will be not like
a new offense with Justin Jefferson being a part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
But I mean that's the reality.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
When you get a superstar, like literally maybe the best
wide receiver in the league back, it's going to change
the way this offense is run because everything runs through him.
How defense play you, it starts and ends with him,
and that's going to change. As a quarterback, how you're
looking at defense is how you're deciding where you're going.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
With the football.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Because he's the type of guy that you give a
little extra second two to get open. You you know,
are looking off at defense to help open him up.
On another portion of a player, part of the field,
and that's just gonna be the biggest difference is seeing
if Josh Thabbs can do.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
That with the preparation he's been given through the bye.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
So it was kind of interesting, like they went into
the buy it almost sounded like wanting to kind of
bench him, and now.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Coming out of it, they're like, yeah, he gives us
the best chance to win. It's like, well, yeah, he's been.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Pretty darn good this season, but do you not remember
for a couple you know, when's he helped you get
when he first got there.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I don't. I didn't get it. I didn't understand why
there was even a debate as to whether or not
he was on.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I didn't understand why it was a debate to begin with.
I mean, sure he had a down game, but aren't
down games relative as well when you're a backup. I mean,
he has done a strong job since getting the opportunity,
since leaving Arizona. So I didn't. I didn't. I didn't
comprehend why it turned into a thing after one one game.
(25:32):
I mean, do you feel like you get a better
opportunity with with Nick Mullins I mean, is he the
one that's going to set the world on you know,
fire and keep their playoff playoff hopes alive. I mean,
he's got some time in you know, he's not he's
not new to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I mean, I just.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Don't see why changing courses would have been, you know,
the prudent move to make. In fact, we just started
the show off talking about a coach who actually has
made those decisions. So then now we would start talking
about the coach of the Vikings almost in the same
manner of which we were having to talk about Robert
(26:15):
Sala in some regards, because you're not you're not showing
that you're trying to create a stability that would lead
to any type of continuity or any type of cohesiveness.
Give this offense and given this team a chance to win.
I mean, they're in a division where it looks like
(26:36):
they still have the opportunity to win.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
LeVar, if you were on defense for Minnesota and Kevin
O'Connell made the decision to go elsewhere this week and
not Josh Dobbs after the past three four weeks, how
would that land defensively for you?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Would you be looking around like.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Well, they're seeing what the coaches are seeing.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
So I would say if the coaches aren't making that decision,
the coach made that decision, it could go one or
two ways.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
It could either go the way of the.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Team sees what the coach is seeing in the sense
that they got to try something different just because it
doesn't look as though, you know, Dobbs is ready to go.
You know, it doesn't look crisp or whatever in having
success in practice, or he's he's doing what he's always done,
(27:28):
and it's like, are you why are you making a change?
You know, it doesn't make sense to make a change.
It could fall on either side. I'm not there and
I don't see what's going on in the practices and
how the interactions are going. But if I'm on the
defensive side of the ball, given whatever that scenario is
that's playing out in practices, if Mullins looks better in practice,
(27:51):
which I would find it be difficult because how are
you conducting your practices if you don't have a starter,
like are you are you giving equal reps? Because generally
the starter takes all of the reps pretty much all
the reps, So who's getting the reps in practice and
going into the game, if there's two quarterbacks that are
(28:12):
taking the reps in practice and you don't know who
the definitive starter is, I don't feel confident about our
opportunities to win because it's hard enough to win with
your starter. It's hard enough to win when we had
Kirk Cousins. It's hard enough to win in the league,
as is all elements given. So when you get to
the point of where you have a backup end or
(28:32):
back ups, yeah, it's you don't feel very That's not
a very very comforting feeling if you're on the defensive
side of the ball and you just feel as though
you got to be the ones that carry the load
and try to keep them off the board and keep
the point total as low as you possibly can.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I'll bet Justin Jefferson as a monster game got to
be fully healthy at this point there it was questionable
if he could come back for that money and night game.
And he set out that one and got a bye week,
and now they're going to Vegas. He's gonna rip the
Raiders apart. That's my projection. Any about that? All right?
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Sports Radio. It is LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox
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you can also do the same at yours next here
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Speaker 7 (29:29):
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Speaker 2 (30:27):
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Speaker 1 (30:33):
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Speaker 6 (30:44):
Good Good morning everybody, Good morning, Jones, morning, Brady, morning LeVar.
Sorry if you missed me yesterday. But guys, in case
you missed it, I missed that, that's for sure. Well, guys,
in case you missed this, Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy underwent
surgery yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Hey, Brady underwent surgery yesterday after he suffered a cute.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Appendicitis acute appendicitis.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Well.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Dan Quinn, who's obviously the defensive coordinator, was asked about
whether or not Mike McCarthy would be back in time
for the game.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
This is what he said.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
Do you think that tough irishman is going to miss
this game? That's a big hypothetical. Who let all that
come to that. We're certainly anticipating Mike being back for
the game. We'll handle and hold it down for practices
and knowing him there'll be no online tonight and wanting to
you know, go through the red zone and third down
and everything else. So yeah, we certainly expect him to
be to be rocking, you know, by game day again.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
So that's a trick. You got to be an irishman.
You want to come back from a cute appendicitis and
be ready for the game. That's the move.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
I mean if you said the other right, racial groups
or you know, ethnic groups, what what is that?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
What is that? Nationality groups? How would that go over?
That's got to be racist? Well, it depends on how would.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
That go depends on which sensitive person is commenting on
the the ball busting or the fun that dan Quinn
was trying to have.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I just was curious, like if if if Mike, Mike
McCarthy was like Asian, what would what type of what
would he have been being kept from that game?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I'm not sure, right, all right.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
If he was from Africa? What what what would that have been?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Well, I'm assuming dan Quinn's also Irish, so maybe he
felt that he had the right to go.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
It was the Irish Brethren.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
You know what, It's interesting to me why anyone makes
a big deal about it. You know, like back in
the day, it used to be like okay to be
like talk about a joke about be proud of what
you are and talk about that truth.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Now it's like, yeah, you can't say that anymore. Like good,
a little touch sensitive. Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I feel like we kind of have broken away.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
From that, you know, I feel like says in this show.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, like we have like make it clear you know
what everybody is and it's okay, Like there's no problem.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
With still got a total line on that one though,
But you know, anyway, what you got.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Lead your thoughts on this. You seem to be open minded.
Doesn't bother me, open guys.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
In case you missed this, a report from the Athletics
says people within the Panthers organization describe the culture as
being like the movie The Hunger Games, with some coaches
and staffers allegedly texting David Tepper about issues behind Frank
Reich's back and go into great lengths to save themselves
when it appeared that Reich was on his way out.
Speaker 8 (33:44):
God.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, I read that article.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
It's unfortunate, like that is the definition of a dysfunctional organization.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
If I was David Tepper, you get rid of every
last one of them. Yeah, I would get rid.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Of everyone everyone, start new, start start over again, and say, like,
I know what dysfunctional organization looks like, because I just
had one for one year, and so I'm moving on
from this. There's no not gonna be backstabbing, in fighting,
any of the stuff that's that's been you know, reported
on that's going on. And mind you, I think the
author of that article, so they talked to twenty different people,
(34:19):
either players, personnel, people, all this within the actual team themselves.
Pretty pretty incredible to read how dysfunctional that was.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And so I feel bad for Frank Reike.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I feel bad for the coaches and players involved because
it's it's one of those scenarios. But it's a wasted year.
And as an owner, you're ultimately tasked with providing the
type of structure you're going to have in the environment
that all these people are working at. And so I
keep going back to, you know, David Temper ultimately has
to take responsibility for his own decision making and figuring
(34:51):
out how to fix it, because clearly it's it's not
going in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Have you guys ever heard anybody have anything bad to
say about Frank Reich. I don't think I ever have.
And so when he made the comment after he was gone,
he was in an interview, he said, look, I'm still
going to be coaching, but you know, my NFL journey
has probably come to an end. I wonder if he
also found some of this stuff out after the fact
and was like, man, f this, like this is how
(35:16):
this stuff goes nowadays. I want no part of it.
Like he's been in the NFL. He's been around the
NFL for a long ass time, like as a player,
as a coach, and the idea that you've got what
twenty something other people like going to the owner like
I would be if I was David Tepper, would that
would have enticed me to keep Frank Reich and get
rid of all them like screwed. Like at least Frank
(35:38):
Reich's not out ratting anybody out, like he's up there
having to defend the team and all the decisions and
the dysfunction and ultimately a costume his job. Crazy.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
What else Lee, guys, in casey miss this, there's a
story out there that is supposedly haunted hotel in Oklahoma
City has terrorized a number of NBA players when they
visit the Thunder. The story goes that owner of this
Skurvin Hilton hotel back in the day when it was
in nineteen eleven when he opened it up, allegedly had
an affair with a maid, got her pregnant, and then
(36:08):
locked her up in room ten fifteen in an attempt
to cover up his misdeeds, where she later committed suicide
by jumping out the window. Now players say that they
have been haunted by this entity, this ghost.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Many players haunted by Well, there's been.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Slammed doors at presence. They say she roams the halls.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Lou Williams, when he was on the Lakers, opted to
book a room in a different hotel. Lots of different
tidbits and antidotes about this alleged ghost.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Are you guys buying into this?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Are you buying into doors close an a hotel?
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Well, he said it was his bathroom hotel like that
he saw it happen.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
That is what one is.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
She hot toaj Gibson, I don't know I do not know.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I will look her up.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Her name is out at minister some type of a
substance test and trying to figure out if this is
legit or not.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
What type of substance testing? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
I don't know what they had going on. It was
the Green Monster or something. I don't I have no idea,
but I'm just saying, take you go that that synthetic,
you know what I mean, like he thought he had wings.
He took that Red Bull commercial to you guys. Yeah,
(37:24):
you know, I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I just don't. I don't subscribe to that stuff.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Like I believe that there's like that type of element
that exists or whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
But I mean, they're not even hair.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Like I've never heard of somebody getting their ass beat
or getting hurt, you know, in any way or or
whatever by anything haunted.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, there's never heard of it.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
There's no assault.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
I've never heard of it. So it's like they're not
even hair, So what does it even matter? Like lay
your ass down and go to sleep. Yeah, God dang,
A little scary mother.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Suckers usually friendly ghosts, you know.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
I had I had a ghost in my uh growing
up in my bedroom, did.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
You in your well?
Speaker 6 (38:06):
No, the guy next to the bartender, the guy next
door committed suicide. And uh, this was long before we
had moved in. But there's always been a presence there.
Everyone sees it, everyone recognizes it.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I'm gonna tell y'all a story. So I bought it
next to you. I bought a house.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
And and it was it was two gay lovers. One
of them killed the other one in the driveway, and
and when it would rain sometimes you could see the
outline of where the body was when that that situation
took place.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Oh, were they laying down cement when he killed?
Speaker 2 (38:46):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
You could see the.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Outline, the outline whatever they did, the outline of the person.
When it would rain, you could see it in the
in the driveway, like you could see like the remnants
of the outlining. So anyway, so in the house, you know,
certain things would happen. I'd be taking a shower, it
(39:07):
go from regular temperature to super like scolding hot type stuff.
So I guess you could say you got injured by
by by a ghost, but I just I just politely
told the ghost.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
I bought and paid this house in cash homie, like
I'm the king of this house.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You could be here.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
You could be here, but you didn't do well while
you were living, So don't be trying to do nothing.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Why you're not here. I'm not going anywhere
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Thursday edition, you talk about dysfunction. Let's
take a closer look at the AFC East, well at
least one half of it. We're going to talk about
the Jets in their quarterback situation and history involving the
New England Patriots, and also we'll throw in the Pittsburgh
(00:20):
Steelers as well too. Plus we're going to talk about
a quarterback who is apparently good enough to start yet
again and as not being the fall guy for one organization.
We've also got some hotted house stories from LeVar Arrington
and some NBA players as well too. We've got somebody
who's feuding with a media member on social media and
his coach is not a fan of it. Somebody else
(00:41):
has doubled down on a hot take involving a quarterback.
Plus we've got another edition of over Unders. We've got
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we would start off with cause it's kind of you know,
pick a card, any card, and you're dealing with a
deck of diaper fires. And so what do we want
to go with? Do we want to start with Thursday
night football? And the point total that is historically low, Yeah,
been thirty years since we've seen a total in the
NFL at thirty points, and that's where we're at with
(02:09):
the Patriots and Steelers. Or we could talk about the
other diaper fire that happens to belong to the AFC East,
and that is the New York Jets and their quarterback decision.
Good Christ, what a mess man.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
You go ahead and pick Thursday football.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm kind of moving past the whole Aaron Rodgers and
the Jets and all that, all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean not a big fan of the Robert Sala
commentary yesterday announcing his decision. As steadfast as he was
he was going to.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Be, he seemed like a beaten man. He really should
he should.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I mean, he has kind of waffled back and forth
in between who's going to be the starter, who's not
going to be the starter. Can we just just for
is in giggles, can we just play the Robert Sala
talking about the decision of who's going to be the
quarterback and why it's Zach Wilson now and why they
(03:09):
had to move on from Tim Boyle because it just sounds.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So it's back to Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I just I just want to mention this because it
is simps love. It is eerily simple.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Loves it to love Jonas from give it to Jonas?
Here what you did? All right?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So here? Damn all right? So here it is Robert
Sala going back on his word from just a couple.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Of days ago.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Zach gives us our best chance to win and uh,
giving another opportunity to.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Go prove that. How did that conversation go when you
called him?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
He's good, He's fired up. Like I said on Monday,
he came into my office. He wants to boughts the
ball and he's excited about in this opportunity to finish
the season strong. It's always believed here's the best best
quarterback in terms of giving us a chance to win.
You know, Tim and Trevor trying to spark to all
(04:00):
fence and all that and uh and those short, fairy
talented quarterbacks. Don't get me wrong, but uh but in
my opinion, uh, Zach gives us the best chance to one.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Tim's awesome.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You know, we all loved him, but this is more
just trying to get another arm in here, Ritt and
just see what he is. It's pretty unique though, you go,
I mean he was a starter for two games that
just boom cut. No, I know it's it's that's a
good question, but you know it's unfortunate the way when
it's come about. I got it, and it's uh, that's
part of the part of the crappy part of the league.
(04:32):
He got his opportunity. We appreciate him, and uh, we're
not saying that he won't come back in terms of practice,
squad and.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
All of them.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
So there's the the very latest one.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
So basically what he's saying is, I'll say the same
exact things about Zach Wilson next week and bring Tim
Boyle back and say that the same exact things about
Tim Boyle that I'm saying about Zach Wilson right now.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Is that is that where we're heading?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
If he always felt like Zach Wilson gave them the
best chance to.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Win the why did you go away from that?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't. That's That's why I asked the question.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I'm not there yet.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Who's calling the shots, Like, who's making the decision? Is
this Joe Douglas, Is this him? Is it Woody Johnson?
Is it?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
None of it at like none of it makes sense?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You guys do yesterday. I feel like this is a
groundhog day? Are you really we had the same conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
No, That's why I said, like what that It gets
back to that original question the shots.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
I'll say this, the last time we had this conversation,
you do know that the guy ended up getting fired.
You guys do realize that the last time we had
this conversation about directly who is calling the shots, because
it doesn't sound like the court of the coach is
really necessarily calling the shots here, he ended up being
(05:45):
fired and that's your coach in Carolina. So is this
the same situation that's kind of emerging?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I mean, I don't think they'll move on from Robert
Salah understanding the situation that that he was in this
year with Rogers going down what four places in the season.
I just I think they'll give him to him next year.
But like next year, without a doubt, is a make
or break year, Like that is it? I would think
at least, I don't know. Look, maybe I'm wrong, but
(06:15):
I don't think they're gonna I just I can't imagine
they're gonna make a big, wholesale, sweeping change because this
comes off to me like it's not Robert Solom making
some of these decisions, but he's the one that has
to go to the podium and speak and be accountable
for that.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
That's how it comes off and feels to me watching it.
And they've got a ton of leaks in there, They've got.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
A ton of stuff going on.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I just it feels like he's putting a tough spot
and you can see it on him every time, like, yeah,
he told me Monday he wants the ball, Like okay, yeah,
Like that sounds like something from a movie, like a
coach I went back and I want the ball?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You know, Okay, who says that?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
All right?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Let me ask you this is this worse than when
Charlie Frye was the starter of your rookie year, got
benched at halftime and then was cut after being named
team captain before the opener, Like, which is worse?
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
This is worse because it's Druggne for a long period
of time. Like what was bad about that was all
the reps, all the time, everything else that you invested
into a player that after one half of football you
completely turned course and then traded him Like.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
That was that was bad?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
But this is still the same situation where you've got
a ton of time money invested.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Into a player and then you keep like putting him in, putting.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Back out, putting it like you're almost you're like almost
hurting and stunting that growth of that player by how
you're handling it. Like at least they allowed like Charlie
an opportunity to move on like early in the season
somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That's the key. That's the key.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
If they would do what Brady just said Jonas and
just let let him go like Dell Deltam or whatever
it is they needed to do. Robert Salah, even in
Aaron Rodgers' injury, could have been able to really really
manage this in a way where we lost Aaron Rodgers,
like we're going to do the best that we can do,
(08:15):
and that's that's all we have. Instead, he has to
deal with the continued saga and soap opera of Zack
Wilson in the Days of our Lives, like that's what's
going on here, and that is purely based around Zack
Wilson and whatever the infatuation is of the coverage of
Zack Wilson and Robert Sala has failed miserably on how
(08:39):
he's handled it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And it also feels like they're listening to people on
the outside way too much, because if you if you
looked at the quarterback situation in New York, it's been
obvious and we've talked about it. Zack Wilson has been
the best quarterback and has given them the best chance
to win. Yet for some reason they let outside voice
(09:00):
tell them, no, you got to get somebody else in there. No,
he can't do it. There's got to be somebody else
in there. And it's like multiple years in a row,
somebody else has gone in there, and with the exception
of Mike White, who really had what one decent game,
it just it hasn't worked out. And for some reason,
they just listen to everybody else's opinion on the outside
and then go back to what if we're to believe
(09:21):
what he says, which is tough at this point, but
if we're to believe what he says that we've always
felt Zach gave us the best chance to win, why'd.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
You move on?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
He didn't get hurt. He has played better than last year,
like despite what anybody wants to say. And yet here
we are again and they're cutting another quarterback who just
started a game.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Because he had the fail Mary, the pick six on
the fail Mary on Black Friday. Come on, the game was.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Already overlay, just completely backfu.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I mean, what that's not Tim Boyle's fault.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Though, I know, but there's one of those plays.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Are like, man, all right, God, I'm hoping to pray
that this thing, this thing gets into the ends.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Like it will what you drop back to lots of
that thing? Oh oh wait, what happened? Oh no, oh.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
No, it's just the whole building's terrible. And I just
it really feels like everything they're hearing from the outside
matters to them, Like, oh, well, you know, people are
telling us we got to move on from okay and
you saw the results, like you saw what happens.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
We're doing the same exact conversation yesterday.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, well listen, all right, let's let's transition over to
another team. Yeah, and we're talking a lot of Super
Bowls between these two teams.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It's more likely to be back Bill Belichick or Robert.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Salaw Robert sala which which is shocking.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I think they're both going to be out.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Thirty is the over under for this game. Between the
Steelers and the New England Patriots talk about too proud franchises.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
What's the weather supposed to be like to in Pittsburgh? Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Good, call, let's look that up.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
It's not supposed to be good. I don't think.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Effort this here? Is it still Acupuncture Stadium?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I mean, don't you well, I don't think you have
to put in that exact address. I think Pittsburgh still works.
Don't you have the weather channel U jonahs like always?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, but they're they're showing something.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
The mountain mountains are probably blocking. Yeah, there's snow on
the mountains.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, there's uh.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
We uh gun.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Gun up. What do you got for the weather there?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So I like, so some people would just go Pittsburgh
in general. I'm gonna go zip code specific on just
the state.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, because like in Chicago, if you want the weather
at Soldier Field six six oh five, if you wanted
it at Wrigley Field, it's six oh six one three,
big difference, huge difference there.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Micro climates they call it jonas.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
All right, So here we go Pittsburgh. Is that what
they call it?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yes, that's what they call it.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Varies from place to place, all right. So here we
go that we are looking at slappy.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Uh we slappy.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I'm still efforting.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Still we sloppy.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I told you we got Wi Fi problems here.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's not I think it's usual now.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I'm telling you we got Wi Fi issues here, all right,
So give me one second.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
All right, here's what Pittsburgh looks like for tonight. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, that's about to do high a forty six low
low of thirty six, and the win the most important
looks like it shouldn't be too bad. About six miles
per hour, So should be a good good fall night
winter night.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
What we're gonna call it right now?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
For some football that was was that zip code specific
or was that just a general Pittsburgh overview?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
It was general Pittsburgh because we're up against the break
and you somehow have.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Not been able to deliver.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
All right, So here we go. This is there's no rain,
I mean, this is what I'm looking at here, all right.
You tell me if this differs. I'm looking at eight
o'clock Eastern time tonight, forty two degrees, partly cloudy. Half
a wins southwest at six miles an hour, but it
does feel like thirty eight degrees according to the zip
(13:27):
code specific search.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's actually perfect football weather. Yeah, it really is, like you.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Love that, Yeah, and so you feel like that's going
to impact Maybe we get a shootout here.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Fifty two moderate for New England? Is it going to
be back Jones?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Bailey's appy, I said, Bailey Zapp, you made some comment yesterday.
I think it was where he said, I think you
He said, I think it's pretty obvious who the starter is.
But I'll like coach say that or whatever. So Bailey's
at it feels like we're going to get zapped later
on tonight.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Does it feel like like us getting zap gives them
a better chance of winning?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
No? Yeah, I don't feel that way either.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Right ZAPPI versus Trubisky. So that's what we're getting later
on today.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
They said the wind chill will make it feel like
it's twenty eight degrees, humidity seventy six percent, pressure thirty
point ten I n HG for low and a high
visibility ten miles. It's perfectly clear.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And now you have your.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Weather report from Pittsburgh for the stillers. Now in the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I can guarantee you one thing that is going to
be featured at this game later on tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And it's something that you.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Guys have waxed poetically about when it comes to games
in Pittsburgh at either Hinzfield or Acupuncture Stadium, whatever the
case may be, a little bit of this, yeah, a
little bit of this.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You're gonna play from the beginning though, that's what they like,
the beat really gets.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But Sam, can we get it from the beginning? Why not?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
It's such a it's such a long build up.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
You want, you want the a cappella coming in?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Sam's never been there, he doesn't know no Pittsburgh. It's
it's you've been to Pittsburgh. I've been there a game.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Yeah, I actually saw Iowa playing pitt at Hinesfield at
the time.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Exact same thing, sticks Renegade in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yep, that was not an NFL game.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Sam. I would argue the intro is better than the
actual course.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Hey, by the way, this is a classic Sam. He's
been there in the stadium, so of course he takes
full responsibility of saying I've been there, I've witnessed this
this before, even though he actually has not ever seen
in a Pittsburgh Steelers home stadium game sticks Renegade going
in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Sam, can we play from the beginning? Please?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's been too long of a build up, that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Oh how long are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Was it like? It's like it's like a minute.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Maybe this is bad radio, but you have to play
the you have to turn the base up.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
This is so much better than the actual course, Coop,
am I crazy? So much better?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Understand?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
This is when they get the terrible towel started. Oh yeah,
they have the jumbo tron stuff going on. Come on, yeah,
you understand. See sample's there for an Iowa pit game.
You've got to be there for a Steelers dude. Yeah,
entirely different.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
The pit marching band did a crop circle Democrat by.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
The way, late lay the points with the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, here it is.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, come on, this.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Is where they just punched Sam right in the face.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Risky back to throw he's got picking up dead.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
As a scarred Chicago fan, Jonas, are you not anticipating
this being anywhere close?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, I would say I do like Trubisky more than most.
I felt like he was sort of the fall guy
for Matt Naggi and that whole disaster that too, because listen,
Mentor Ohio guy, you know, that's that's how we feel
about it. But he's uh, he's made a lot of
appearances for Kenny Pop.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Mixed up Trubisky being from Mentor and then Drew Aller
being from Medina to Ohio guys though, Yeah, but they
both mister Ohio's was not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, well, listen, it's gonna be a both representing p A.
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. We got a lot done there
that segment. There's Lebar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
At the right.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
So, I mean there's the conversation of Robert. We heard
some are coming back. Some say he's coming back, yes,
some is saying he's going.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I mean you're already calling your shot. He thinks all
those gone. Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I think it's a strong possibility.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Damn all right. So a strong possibility is we're gonna
have another edition of In case you missed it coming
up later on this hour. We've also got some over
unders as we look ahead to this blockbuster matchup later
on tonight. Albert Breer is gonna stop by. We've got
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(18:16):
a decision that was made by one team in the
NFL regarding their quarterback and it was the right one.
We'll tell you who that is next.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
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Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh yeah, you know what movie?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Oh yeah, Chevy Chase looking at the pool, the invisible pool.
There you go, and that rocket ship on the diving board?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Is that funny?
Speaker 5 (19:22):
I think they could have added to that scene once
the the kid walked in of he turned around, it
could have been better right there?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yes, yeah, I agree. All right, we're on the same page.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
By the way, how do you guys feel about National
Lampoon's Christmas Vacation versus a Christmas Story?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What are you going with Christmas Vacation?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I thought that too until about two years ago. It's
kind of corny.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Christmas Story is pretty cool, man, It's pretty classic. They're
both classics. I wouldn't choose. I'd have to go with both.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
By the way, the Christmas Story houses in Ohio?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Do you know that? Brady? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Still there?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Realthy? Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I don't find it quite as entertaining as I do
Christmas Vacation, but it is cool at Cooper's was in Christmas?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (20:16):
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Or excuse me? Christmas Story? Was it? Really? He wasn't.
That would be awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
It looks like him that would be awesome. A Lee
did was your dad. Did he have any involvement since
you like to drop those tidbits on the show that
your dad had involvement in this movie that movie.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Like yeah, you played Biff, you know, and and in
Christmas Story, you know, the little the Little Bully before
he grew up and turned into the bit Bully and uh,
back to the Future, I'm.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Talking to human fly. Yeah, no connections with my my
favorite one of my favorite Lee stories is I tell
him I was like, yeah, I went to Universal Studios.
He goes, oh nice ide. You laugh, like, yeah, I
never been. We went down the Jurassic Park ride and
all that. He goes, oh, yeah, my dad designed that
Tyrannosaurus Rex at the end. Wait what Yeah, I just
(21:05):
just designed it, Okay, Like, way to drop that tidbit.
He was also in Back to the Future. He was
also it's unbelievable, like You've got so many like inside
details and stories about your dad you'd never drop on
the air. He's an interesting guy.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Yeah, many lives lived by mister Lee Roberts Lap the II.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, and you can IMDb that if you want. You
can look up lead to Lap the drummer for the
Pinheads and back to the future. If you doubt the
credibility of this show. He was almost Marty McFly. Let's see,
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Eric Stoltz had the role for a few for a
few weeks to a few months, and then, uh, my
dad was roommates with Eric Stoltz, and he actually was
booked for a day before Marty, before Michael J. Fox
walked off set of what's the name of that show?
He was on Family Family Ties.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah, so your dad would have been McFly calls me.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, it wouldn't have been. It wouldn't have been as
big a movie.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
No, wouldn't have They wouldn't have none. I think it
would have. I think it would have been better. That
movie sucks now because your dad wasn't McFly. That's how
I feel about it.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
What's your dad's name?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Same as mine?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
But he goes by Robert to Lette?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, oh Robert, Yeah, look it up. All right, So
coming up here and we'll call it less than twenty
minutes from now from the Tiraq dot com studios, a
coach in the NFL, apparently as a superpower, and we
know why it is. We will hear that coming up
here again. Less than twenty minutes from now here on FSR, Hey,
apparently something amazing happened during the bye week in Minnesota.
(22:39):
They've decided, Kevin O'Connell and company, that Josh Dobbs will
be your starting quarterback. He's going to get the start
this Sunday at the Raiders. Do the Vikings have next
on their schedule, so it'll be Josh Dobbs in Vegas
with the return of Justin Jefferson. So although everybody tries
to play up the turnover problem that was the last game,
and he pointed out on this show a lot of deflected,
(23:02):
tipped interceptions things like that, not every interception is the
same as the other one. And Josh Dobbs is going
to get a chance with Justin Jefferson back in the
lineup this Sunday at Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, the crazy thing was, despite the four interceptions and
there was one bad one in there, but one one
right through Jordan Addison's hands. There's a couple of the
deflections that got picked off.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
It happens, but they still had a shot to win
in the end. It ultimately didn't work out. But I
think his athletic potential as far as taking off running, scrambling,
making a bad play into something. It's got to be
the biggest difference between you know, him and Jaron Hall,
him and Nick Mullens. You know, Jared Hall has some
of those skill sets and traits, but he's not as
(23:47):
experienced being that he's a rookie, and Mullens doesn't have
even as much experience as Dobbs. So I think you
give him a shot. You know, see how it goes
with Justin Jefferson in there. Dobbs done a tremendous job
adapting the diferent systems and this will be not like
a new offense with Justin Jefferson being a part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
But I mean that's the reality.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
When you get a superstar, like literally maybe the best
wide receiver in the league back, it's going to change
the way this offense is run because everything runs through him.
How defense play you, it starts and ends with him,
and that's going to change. As a quarterback, how you're
looking at defense is how you're deciding where you're going.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
With the football.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Because he's the type of guy that you give a
little extra second two to get open. You you know,
are looking off at defense to help open him up.
On another portion of a player, part of the field,
and that's just gonna be the biggest difference is seeing
if Josh Thabbs can do.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
That with the preparation he's been given through the bye.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
So it was kind of interesting, like they went into
the buy it almost sounded like wanting to kind of
bench him, and now.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Coming out of it, they're like, yeah, he gives us
the best chance to win. It's like, well, yeah, he's been.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Pretty darn good this season, but do you not remember
for a couple you know, when's he helped you get
when he first got there.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I don't. I didn't get it. I didn't understand why
there was even a debate as to whether or not
he was on.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I didn't understand why it was a debate to begin with.
I mean, sure he had a down game, but aren't
down games relative as well when you're a backup. I mean,
he has done a strong job since getting the opportunity,
since leaving Arizona. So I didn't. I didn't. I didn't
comprehend why it turned into a thing after one one game.
(25:32):
I mean, do you feel like you get a better
opportunity with with Nick Mullins I mean, is he the
one that's going to set the world on you know,
fire and keep their playoff playoff hopes alive. I mean,
he's got some time in you know, he's not he's
not new to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I mean, I just.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Don't see why changing courses would have been, you know,
the prudent move to make. In fact, we just started
the show off talking about a coach who actually has
made those decisions. So then now we would start talking
about the coach of the Vikings almost in the same
manner of which we were having to talk about Robert
(26:15):
Sala in some regards, because you're not you're not showing
that you're trying to create a stability that would lead
to any type of continuity or any type of cohesiveness.
Give this offense and given this team a chance to win.
I mean, they're in a division where it looks like
(26:36):
they still have the opportunity to win.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
LeVar, if you were on defense for Minnesota and Kevin
O'Connell made the decision to go elsewhere this week and
not Josh Dobbs after the past three four weeks, how
would that land defensively for you?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Would you be looking around like.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Well, they're seeing what the coaches are seeing.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
So I would say if the coaches aren't making that decision,
the coach made that decision, it could go one or
two ways.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
It could either go the way of the.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Team sees what the coach is seeing in the sense
that they got to try something different just because it
doesn't look as though, you know, Dobbs is ready to go.
You know, it doesn't look crisp or whatever in having
success in practice, or he's he's doing what he's always done,
(27:28):
and it's like, are you why are you making a change?
You know, it doesn't make sense to make a change.
It could fall on either side. I'm not there and
I don't see what's going on in the practices and
how the interactions are going. But if I'm on the
defensive side of the ball, given whatever that scenario is
that's playing out in practices, if Mullins looks better in practice,
(27:51):
which I would find it be difficult because how are
you conducting your practices if you don't have a starter,
like are you are you giving equal reps? Because generally
the starter takes all of the reps pretty much all
the reps, So who's getting the reps in practice and
going into the game, if there's two quarterbacks that are
(28:12):
taking the reps in practice and you don't know who
the definitive starter is, I don't feel confident about our
opportunities to win because it's hard enough to win with
your starter. It's hard enough to win when we had
Kirk Cousins. It's hard enough to win in the league,
as is all elements given. So when you get to
the point of where you have a backup end or
(28:32):
back ups, yeah, it's you don't feel very That's not
a very very comforting feeling if you're on the defensive
side of the ball and you just feel as though
you got to be the ones that carry the load
and try to keep them off the board and keep
the point total as low as you possibly can.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I'll bet Justin Jefferson as a monster game got to
be fully healthy at this point there it was questionable
if he could come back for that money and night game.
And he set out that one and got a bye week,
and now they're going to Vegas. He's gonna rip the
Raiders apart. That's my projection. Any about that? All right?
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Speaker 7 (29:29):
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Good Good morning everybody, Good morning, Jones, morning, Brady, morning LeVar.
Sorry if you missed me yesterday. But guys, in case
you missed it, I missed that, that's for sure. Well, guys,
in case you missed this, Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy underwent
surgery yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Hey, Brady underwent surgery yesterday after he suffered a cute.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Appendicitis acute appendicitis.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Well.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Dan Quinn, who's obviously the defensive coordinator, was asked about
whether or not Mike McCarthy would be back in time
for the game.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
This is what he said.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
Do you think that tough irishman is going to miss
this game? That's a big hypothetical. Who let all that
come to that. We're certainly anticipating Mike being back for
the game. We'll handle and hold it down for practices
and knowing him there'll be no online tonight and wanting to
you know, go through the red zone and third down
and everything else. So yeah, we certainly expect him to
be to be rocking, you know, by game day again.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
So that's a trick. You got to be an irishman.
You want to come back from a cute appendicitis and
be ready for the game. That's the move.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
I mean if you said the other right, racial groups
or you know, ethnic groups, what what is that?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
What is that? Nationality groups? How would that go over?
That's got to be racist? Well, it depends on how would.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
That go depends on which sensitive person is commenting on
the the ball busting or the fun that dan Quinn
was trying to have.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
I just was curious, like if if if Mike, Mike
McCarthy was like Asian, what would what type of what
would he have been being kept from that game?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I'm not sure, right, all right.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
If he was from Africa? What what what would that have been?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Well, I'm assuming dan Quinn's also Irish, so maybe he
felt that he had the right to go.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
It was the Irish Brethren.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
You know what, It's interesting to me why anyone makes
a big deal about it. You know, like back in
the day, it used to be like okay to be
like talk about a joke about be proud of what
you are and talk about that truth.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Now it's like, yeah, you can't say that anymore. Like good,
a little touch sensitive. Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I feel like we kind of have broken away.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
From that, you know, I feel like says in this show.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, like we have like make it clear you know
what everybody is and it's okay, Like there's no problem.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
With still got a total line on that one though,
But you know, anyway, what you got.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Lead your thoughts on this. You seem to be open minded.
Doesn't bother me, open guys.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
In case you missed this, a report from the Athletics
says people within the Panthers organization describe the culture as
being like the movie The Hunger Games, with some coaches
and staffers allegedly texting David Tepper about issues behind Frank
Reich's back and go into great lengths to save themselves
when it appeared that Reich was on his way out.
Speaker 8 (33:44):
God.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, I read that article.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
It's unfortunate, like that is the definition of a dysfunctional organization.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
If I was David Tepper, you get rid of every
last one of them. Yeah, I would get rid.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Of everyone everyone, start new, start start over again, and say, like,
I know what dysfunctional organization looks like, because I just
had one for one year, and so I'm moving on
from this. There's no not gonna be backstabbing, in fighting,
any of the stuff that's that's been you know, reported
on that's going on. And mind you, I think the
author of that article, so they talked to twenty different people,
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either players, personnel, people, all this within the actual team themselves.
Pretty pretty incredible to read how dysfunctional that was.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And so I feel bad for Frank Reike.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I feel bad for the coaches and players involved because
it's it's one of those scenarios. But it's a wasted year.
And as an owner, you're ultimately tasked with providing the
type of structure you're going to have in the environment
that all these people are working at. And so I
keep going back to, you know, David Temper ultimately has
to take responsibility for his own decision making and figuring
(34:51):
out how to fix it, because clearly it's it's not
going in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Have you guys ever heard anybody have anything bad to
say about Frank Reich. I don't think I ever have.
And so when he made the comment after he was gone,
he was in an interview, he said, look, I'm still
going to be coaching, but you know, my NFL journey
has probably come to an end. I wonder if he
also found some of this stuff out after the fact
and was like, man, f this, like this is how
(35:16):
this stuff goes nowadays. I want no part of it.
Like he's been in the NFL. He's been around the
NFL for a long ass time, like as a player,
as a coach, and the idea that you've got what
twenty something other people like going to the owner like
I would be if I was David Tepper, would that
would have enticed me to keep Frank Reich and get
rid of all them like screwed. Like at least Frank
(35:38):
Reich's not out ratting anybody out, like he's up there
having to defend the team and all the decisions and
the dysfunction and ultimately a costume his job. Crazy.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
What else Lee, guys, in casey miss this, there's a
story out there that is supposedly haunted hotel in Oklahoma
City has terrorized a number of NBA players when they
visit the Thunder. The story goes that owner of this
Skurvin Hilton hotel back in the day when it was
in nineteen eleven when he opened it up, allegedly had
an affair with a maid, got her pregnant, and then
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locked her up in room ten fifteen in an attempt
to cover up his misdeeds, where she later committed suicide
by jumping out the window. Now players say that they
have been haunted by this entity, this ghost.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Many players haunted by Well, there's been.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Slammed doors at presence. They say she roams the halls.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Lou Williams, when he was on the Lakers, opted to
book a room in a different hotel. Lots of different
tidbits and antidotes about this alleged ghost.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Are you guys buying into this?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Are you buying into doors close an a hotel?
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Well, he said it was his bathroom hotel like that
he saw it happen.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
That is what one is.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
She hot toaj Gibson, I don't know I do not know.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
I will look her up.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Her name is out at minister some type of a
substance test and trying to figure out if this is
legit or not.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
What type of substance testing? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
I don't know what they had going on. It was
the Green Monster or something. I don't I have no idea,
but I'm just saying, take you go that that synthetic,
you know what I mean, like he thought he had wings.
He took that Red Bull commercial to you guys. Yeah,
(37:24):
you know, I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I just don't. I don't subscribe to that stuff.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Like I believe that there's like that type of element
that exists or whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
But I mean, they're not even hair.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Like I've never heard of somebody getting their ass beat
or getting hurt, you know, in any way or or
whatever by anything haunted.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, there's never heard of it.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
There's no assault.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
I've never heard of it. So it's like they're not
even hair, So what does it even matter? Like lay
your ass down and go to sleep. Yeah, God dang,
A little scary mother.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Suckers usually friendly ghosts, you know.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
I had I had a ghost in my uh growing
up in my bedroom, did.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
You in your well?
Speaker 6 (38:06):
No, the guy next to the bartender, the guy next
door committed suicide. And uh, this was long before we
had moved in. But there's always been a presence there.
Everyone sees it, everyone recognizes it.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I'm gonna tell y'all a story. So I bought it
next to you. I bought a house.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
And and it was it was two gay lovers. One
of them killed the other one in the driveway, and
and when it would rain sometimes you could see the
outline of where the body was when that that situation
took place.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Oh, were they laying down cement when he killed?
Speaker 2 (38:46):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
You could see the.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Outline, the outline whatever they did, the outline of the person.
When it would rain, you could see it in the
in the driveway, like you could see like the remnants
of the outlining. So anyway, so in the house, you know,
certain things would happen. I'd be taking a shower, it
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go from regular temperature to super like scolding hot type stuff.
So I guess you could say you got injured by
by by a ghost, but I just I just politely
told the ghost.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
I bought and paid this house in cash homie, like
I'm the king of this house.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
You could be here.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
You could be here, but you didn't do well while
you were living, So don't be trying to do nothing.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Why you're not here. I'm not going anywhere
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