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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with LaVar arings Rady Win and Jonas Knox on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Boys, we got college football weekend here, baby.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Football, we got call.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Let's go call here. Football is here. Let's get it
fired up, Let's get it rocket. Yeah. That's where we
go ahead, and now we have a live studio band.
They are here and ready to.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Run.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
There it goes.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Yeah, I will say that does get me going.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Is it the drums? It feels real collegey.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
It's also the horn.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I don't know when college football decided it was a
good idea to go ahead and just say, you know what,
there's nothing really going on labor day weekend. Why don't
we just go ahead and take Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Let's
go ahead and take five days from everybody, and let's
go ahead and to hijack this entire weekend and take
everybody's labor day. I don't know when they started it.
(01:20):
I don't know how long ago it was, but I
have all four it. It has gotten better and better
every single year.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
You know, some people are upset with the changes in
college football, but you know, take for example, the expanded playoffs,
it's going to allow for more teams in October November
to be played more meeaningful games because there's been more
chances for teams to get it. Take for example, Penn State.
Penn State has not been to the college football Playoff, LaVar,
(01:50):
you brought it up yesterday. They probably should have went
when they won the Big Ten, but at that point,
they you know, only allowed four teams in.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, and we had never had a two.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Loss team make it in, so that you know, stood
against them even though they won the Big Ten conference
and they they could have been able to play the
case for do you know, in a twelve team playoff scenario,
they would have made.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
It six times already.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
So just to give you a sense of you know,
for teams that have been right there knocking on the
door Penn State's won that we would have seen already
six times in this thing.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
In fact, there would have been.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
I think there's been there's fifteen teams that were part
of the four team college football playoffs, just fifteen over
a decade time, all right, forty six I think as
the number I saw would have been a part of
it if it was twelve teams so way more inclusive,
more teams involved, more players not opting out at the
end of the season because they're playing in a bowl
(02:46):
game they're not excited about.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
All of that makes for great stuff.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
And I think more than that than anything else, the
storylines in college football are so much more fun. Fans
and coaches and everyone's more petty. I mean, think about this.
For example, like Colorado and legs that organ hacked into
their private football datus coreat right, that's why Colorado Clims
got their butts kicked.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
By organ last year. Right, there's zero proof that whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
So it wasn't the Landing speech like it was hackers. Okay,
that's a good move.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
But either way, it's stuff like that that goes on
that makes you just go, this is awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
This is the best Connor Stallions.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
You're seeing a documentary about it now a year after
all that took place. College football is awesome for the tradition,
for the history, but also for the drama and everything
else that goes on.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
It's almost like it's the NFL with a little bit
of NBA infused into it.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
That I was gonna say, w w Okay, that's the
reality of it is you get a little bit of that,
a little bit of the fun, a little bit of
the craziness, a little bit of like the drama that
comes along with the.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
W a U.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Can you feel it in Stay College? Is is the movie?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
You know? I interviewed UH coach Franklin for our weekly
I do a weekly sit down with them.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I'm quite Franklin.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah, yeah, make sure you check it out on just
a ps U. We announced it, by the way to
the partnership with with I Harden with Penn State yesterday.
So it's pretty exciting stuff. You can feel it, bro,
You definitely can feel it. You can feel it on
campus amongst the students. They're excited for it. You can
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feel it in the building. You can. It's the way
they say it's palpable is what it is. It's it's
definitely a feeling. It's a it's an energy feeling. So
I've enjoyed it, and I really enjoyed myself last night.
By the way, Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Tap you sound like Lee right now?
Speaker 5 (04:59):
We Wednesday, did I delivery, went and picked back up,
came back and delivered again.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know where they delivered hammers and cannons.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Man it was. It was a it was a good,
good evening. It is what I'll say, it's good evening.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, how was that? Al Moretto?
Speaker 5 (05:22):
It was good, Man down, really smooth. They make they
make long islands here very good. And then when you
add the LeVar island ingredient and it turns into a
LeVar island, it's just it's even better. They already start
off good and they know how to get you, you know,
(05:43):
they know how to get you. Yeah, and they've gotten me. Yeah,
I'm not quite, Lee asked. I'm not. I'm good. You know,
I'm good. I'm just a little I didn't even like
it was such a good night. I forgot to set
my alarm. And it goes to show you how much
your body clock gets connected to the things we do.
(06:06):
I just woke up, woke up like it was nothing,
and you know, got myself together and washed my face
and you know, hit that shower and and got into
my clothes and got over here. Man, and it was like,
no alarm, So I'm good to go. Yeah I'm not.
I'm banged up, but I'm not banged up, if you
(06:27):
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
YEA, who needs body clock when your body rocks. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (06:31):
You know my body was rocky mine. Yeah, yep. I
was about to sing a song, but it would have
been inappropriate and it would have been untrue.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
By the way, North Carolina Minnesota is the game on
Fox which I will match. I was thinking about this
show Fox Fox. I was thinking about this yesterday. They
have delivered some pretty good matchups. The Thursday night traditional
Fox game to start off the year. I think was
(06:59):
it last year Minnesota Nebraska?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Which I yes?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Which is that's a that's a conference matchup, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
So we were there for that.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And was that the game where Jeff Simms was having
the issues or was that the Colorado game the next week?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It was all of them.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
It was all the I'll be honest with you, I've
never seen a young man look more of the part,
and even in warm ups like man, I can understand
why he transferred to Nebra, why Nebraska wanted him, why
he went there, how much supposedly he was paid to
go there. Like if you see him in T shirt
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and shorts, you're like, holy cow, if this guy can
put it all together, and he's throwing warm ups and
just throwing seeds and I'm like, man, he's just and
then the game came on and just you know, you
see some guys where it's it's like they look like
(07:58):
they're great on Instagram and they're throwing you know, even
maybe even seven on seven and stuff. So when you
combine a rush, when you combine a defense that can
hit you and take the football away, and you have
to process and you have to be able to understand
where their weaknesses are, and we're trying to get the
football to go, some guys can't handle it, and he
(08:20):
could not handle it.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Like that was one where I was dead wrong.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
I really thought he was going to take off last
year for Nebraska, and I kept waiting for it. And
after that first game, I'm like, all right, bad game
had some drops. You know, maybe there's some other things
that played a factor. Let's just see where this thing goes.
Week two, he couldn't take a shot in step. I mean,
it was one of the craziest things I've ever seen
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as far as talent ability and just a young man
struggling to be able to find it on a big
stage like that.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
You know, we called that in the locker room. What's
that body? Like Tarzan? Game? Like Jane. A damn, that's
what they called it.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
We still how to use that these days. Feels feels insulting.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I mean that's what it's for. Just you know, it's
it's meant to be insulting. In fact, you.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Gotta be careful.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, you gotta be careful.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Now. It's like body like Tarzan and identify pronouns like Jader,
Game identifies as Jane.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
You could also flip that in certain cases as well.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
That's right, Jane identifies as Tarzan, but Game is Jane.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Okay, ready to.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Go, man, he's ready to go.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
He's talking about he's got a big neon kickoff do
rag one's he's ready to rock fired up here for
a for a college football season. Hell yeah, delivery Wednesday,
let's go. Oh gosh, how can you get Levara a
little spice in his life this morning?
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
But any hair of the dog recommendations to uh to
get drink?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Man, come on, relax, I'm had you're eating. Let's tell
but garlic.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, sweat it out.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, listen, we do know. College football's here, and we've
got a ton of action and we will have you covered.
Here not only tomorrow, but also on Monday as well
to Tuesday, and now that I think about it, the
next several months here are going to be locked and
loaded when it comes to college football, and we got
some good matches also. By the way, how many people
do you think are just rooting for the meltdown that
(10:46):
could be if North Dakota State goes into Boulder and
beats Colorado, Like, how many people are just quietly rooting
for I don't think.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
I don't think it's happening, but I do think that'll
be a little tougher game than maybe they're they're anticipating.
You see Schador just sign a deal with Nike, some
nil deal, yeah for him. Yeah, It's it's hard to
do in some places because sometimes athletes want to sign
with apparel provider that's not the teams. It's one of
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the reasons why when you go to the NFL, like,
you know, Nike's the apparel provider, so you can sign
a Nike deal. If you sign something outside of that,
it's a little more organized and you know, as far
as your restrictions, it's a little easier. Now Colorado's a
Nike school, so that it sets things up easier for Shador,
But either way, it's just it's not as common that
(11:38):
you see a player sign an apparel deal in college, So.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Kudos to him. Obviously, big big things.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Coming in this year as Colorado now you know, joins
a new conference, different competition, but definitely not an easy
game to start off the season, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
You know, they did a whole campaign with with Prime shoes,
like they relaunched the shoot and the cleat he wore. Yeah,
that he that he wore when he played. I think
they were zebras. I think it was zebra print. Was
it zebra? I don't think it was. It was something
like that. I don't I don't know which one you're
talking about. Those are cool, but everybody's wearing them, by
(12:15):
the way, I mean, I don't know you wanted it well,
I said everybody, Yeah, everybody in Jonas, every there's a
lot of guys wearing them, and like I seen it
in preseason, a lot of guys are wearing them. A
lot of guys are wearing them in college, Like I
saw a few guys wearing them. Heir. I mean, it's
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the shoe is out there, so I think it was
a natural progression, you know, for them to do it,
I'm interested. So they didn't do one with with Shallow.
It was just it was just your door, just do That's.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Interesting the way thirty five to one to win the
Heisman seems like that's come down quite a bit. When
they're conversation, he was like a front runner, was at
the number one of next year that he.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Was probably the number one pick.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Do you think he's the number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
No, it's gonna be.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
He'll have the odds to be yeh, because he'll be
one of the top quarterbacks. Wow, there would be between
I think him and Carson beck Hm, the quarterback out
of Georgia, mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
By the way, second eight to one on DraftKings to
win the Heisman, Carson.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I would put back up there pretty high.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
I think when you look at the second half of
his season last year, I mean, he really turned it on.
There was just a sense of like comfort within the offense.
He started to become more aggressive, was taking care of
the football better. I think the first first out of
the season threw like four picks. Second half is like two,
and you just felt like okay, like this is this
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is the guy that they were hoping things would transform into.
And oftentimes that happens your first year starting. You know,
things start to slow down for you. You get more
comfortable with the offense, with the guys you're throwing to,
and it just it takes a few of those like
aha moments in a game and next thing you know,
you're balling out.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So I think he's in for a huge season. He's
the guy who.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I think will be the number one quarterback and end
up for the Heisman. But I'd love to see the
Heisman go to someone besides a quarterback. I know it
sounds like maybe I'm hating on quarterbacks, but it's like,
I feel like every single year it's just a bunch
of quarterbacks that go And you've got Ollie Gordon at
Oklahoma State, who I think, you know, if he can
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go over over two thousand yards, he'd make a great
case for himself and Oklahoma State should have a shot
and one of the Big twelve, they're gonna be in
the mix. There's just some other guys that I think
could be a part of the equation.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Or at least conversation seventy five to one for Ali Gordon.
So if you're looking for that, that's a nice little thing.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
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Speaker 2 (15:41):
We open up the show to discuss college football. It
is here, it is back. It all starts tonight. We've
got a bunch of college football games taking place tonight
all through the weekend. The big one on Fox will
be North Carolina and Minnesota. You got Coach Prime and
Colorado Plane. You got number twelve Utah, who's gonna be
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taken on Southern Utah. A lot of these are gonna
be blowouts, but look, we're gonna get we should get
some interesting games. You know, North Carolina Minnesota is projected
to be I think Minnesota favored by a point and
a half, or I could have that right, that could
be North Carolina. In North Carolina's favored by a point
and a half in some places. So we do have
at least some potential for good matchups here to open
(16:25):
up the season in college football. So your eyes are
not deceiving you. If people look around and realize, oh,
is that actual college football on my screen, Yes it is,
and it's on Fox at eight Eastern time, five Pacific.
Coming up later.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
There's a bunch of games on tonight, but I was
gonna say, that's one I'm really curious to watch. The
other one's gonna be called out of North North Dakota State.
You got that at eight pm Eastern time, five o'clock Pacific.
I don't even know why I'm saying that, but that's
gonna be fun to watch. Missouri's playing Murray State. Not
that that should be competitive. I think the line's like
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forty seven and a half points. But Miszoo really finished
on a high note last year, and that's a team
to keep an eye if you're interested in kind of
how the SEC is gonna shake out. Missoo will be
in the mix. There's no doubt they've got the best
wide receiver in the country and Luther Burden the third
he's a dynamic player. He should be a ton of
fun to watch in the first quarter of this one.
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I don't imagine he's gonna play much after the first quarter,
maybe into the second quarter.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
By the way, you see, you can get into an
Eastern Illinois Illinois game tonight for two dollars. Can you
really two dollars?
Speaker 6 (17:34):
You need to get on a flight and go back,
go to Champagne, go back, get back there.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
By the way, you know, who's two sons play for Illinois?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Who's that?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Owlin Krutz? Both this boys play for Illinois.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Good for you.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
They're getting they're getting fired up for that game at
State calls.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
The other one is the return of Cam Rising.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
All that's right, taking on.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Sam Rising, taking on Southern Utah, It's right. I think Rising?
Is he going to seven year? Did I read that right?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
He's old? Yeah, he's fun to watch, though.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I was already traded to the Denver Broncos by this
point in time.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
That's why I have a conversation with someone yesterday about
this and they're like, oh, so and so is a
belt ready to go fourth on the old time. I'm like, well, yeah,
he's gotten seven years of eligibility to do it.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
I'm like, you know, some people were already in the
NFL by now, like why are we Why are we
keeping stats?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
And we're letting guys accumulate seven years of stats while
in college football it's like shouldn't At some point you
kind of go, yeah, there's an asterisk next to this,
or maybe there's a cutoff where, like I still look
at it.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Was it Michael James for Oregon?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Look at that?
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Was that the three year span he had rushing in
the PAC twelve or maybe in PAC ten. You know,
back then he was incredible, I mean absolutely incredible as
far as the production that he had and had it rolling.
I mean again, you go back to guys like you know,
Barry Sanders in the day and so forth, and now
you see guys who do you know, they rush for
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a bunch of yards, are like, well, they played fifteen games,
like a little different than when guys were playing back
in the day, and they played for six or seven years.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
At this point, cam Raising's twenty five.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I'm not lying. I've literally gotten played three seasons in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
By now, I mean he uh the prior to the
eight oh five, by the way, Newberry Park, Newberry Park
High School, he had the Panthers. Uh, So we get
to watch him come back and return because he had
a he could he he could have come back last year, right,
and he opted to just sit out the entire year
so that we had another year of eligibility.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
So this would be because the met he had a met,
he was going to be able to apply for a
medical red shirt, which I don't know that he would
have been one hundred percent by the time the season began.
So I think the thought was, let's try to play
this into another year where you're fully one hundred percent healthy.
Give yourself every opportunity to improve your draft stock, you know,
help you tab when in this case now a Big
twelve chance and shipped try to go for a national championship.
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So look, Utah is the favorite the Big twelve, as
they should be. You know, Kyle Winningham's done a tremendous
job creating one of the more consistent programs you'll find
in college football.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
I mean, you know what their identity is.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
And Cam Rising is the guy that brings a special
element of playmaking about at the quarterback spot, but elevates
their passing game to one that if they do get
in the playoff, they will be a tough team to play.
And if they host a home playoff game, that's a
nasty place to go man, having to deal with the
must there. Their student body is one of the better
that you'll find in college football. I menagine LeVar at twenty
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four to twenty five in college just sand blasted, he'd
be he would be murdering people like they would literally
probably go down on the field and have to.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Rest them like this, This shouldn't happen. Let the paramedics
sort them out.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Bar yeah, put the.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Women ripping off people's arms and stuff.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Yeah, like what happened? To the guy, well, he lost
his left arm. LeVar Arrington ripped it off on the
field and.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
I used to try at twenty five.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
I think you could do a college kid possible if
they were just pick him up, put him on my knee, spanking,
then throwing down after taking the ball, and then going
to score touchdown, that would be ideal. You know, I'm
super super intrigued with the Colorado game. Obviously with all
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the attention that has been generated around Dion. Coach Prime
has been one of the most talked about coaches leading
up to this the start of this season. It's interesting
because the Buffs are not considered to be a playoff contender,
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not considered to be a title contender. I think most
people have expectations of this Colorado team being a pedestrian team,
an average team, and what does that look like for sans.
So it's curious to me that the attention that you know,
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in the way things have kind of developed with certain
things that have been done by Dion, whether it be
the the banning of of the you know, of the reporter,
the columnists, whether it be the not answering questions from
the other reporter, just the kind of the agitation that
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has seemingly become the storyline connected to Dion Sanders. You
got to believe that there are a lot of people
that see these things and in context of how everything
is played out, are wanting to see Dion Sanders fail more,
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probably more so now, and and knowing that last year
was the year where they looked at it like, well,
can Dion can it translate? From Jackson State. I think
the answer of could it translate what he does to
major power five football that the question was answered, he can,
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it does translate. But now I don't think he's under
the same expectations as he was last year. I think
the expectations are way higher for him and what it
is that is being expected of the team being in
year two, which to me sets the stage for a
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tremendous a tremendous either amount of Like I mean, the
dude want Sportsman of the year. Last year, man, he
won Sportsman of the Year with an average below average team,
So now it's like, if he can win this year.
I think that the admiration, the things that are said
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about him, like I think he becomes one of the
most legendary people in sports. Forget coach, he becomes one
of the most legendary people, even more so now if
he has a great year with this team this year.
But with that being said, I think that's all caps
b ut, because I think the reality of it is
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it's going to be very difficult to have success in
the Pac twelve and if he does not have success.
I don't think they stumbled tonight. I think that North
Dakota State is it's a good name, it's a respectable name.
They win championships at the level that they've played at.
They had really really fine players come from there and
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going to the going to the pros. And you know,
you think Christian Watson recently came from there. Trey Lance,
even though he hasn't had the opportunity to show it
at the pro level, he's come from there. Carson Wentz
is from there. So they have had players come from
North Dakota State that played at the next level. I
don't think this is one of those games where he stumbles.
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I don't think they stumble. I think they have a
good showing. But I don't think that that puts the
rest any of the expectations or what it is that
people are saddling. Coach Prime with at Colorado, and I
think that that storyline is going to be one of
the most intriguing storylines because how will he handle the
media if something doesn't go and it will at some
(25:24):
point not go the way that they would hope for
it to go within the Colorado football ecosystem. How will
coach Prime handle the adversity of this season if heading
into it, it already seems to be sensitivities connected to
how he's handling things.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well, we got some stuff we had to handle here. First,
Eddie Garcia has got some breaking.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
News, breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 9 (25:51):
Well, we found out yesterday that Girodmeyo, the head coach
the New England Patriots, had made his decision on who
the starting quarterback would be for the start of the season.
He said he was going to inform his team and
then inform the media. Adam Schefter reporting that the decision
has been made and that team he's informed the team
that Jacoby Brissett will in fact be the starting quarterback
Week one against the Bengals. So third overall pick Drake
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may will be sitting on the bench for the first game.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
I give up.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I give up. Well, what's the point, what's the point
of calling your shot on this show? What is the point?
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Is he even going to be healthy?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I don't know. But didn't he bang up his shoulder
and also didn't the coach say he was out played
by the other guy, but we're still going to start
him and said they're in for a long season. Remember
you guys were giving me a hard time when I said, look,
everybody buys multiple pieces of dough when they're making pizza
because you assume you're going to burn the first one,
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you don't want to ruin the second one. So maybe
Jacoby Brissett is that dough ball that they're like, hey,
go out there, buddy, we got to get this oven tested,
and we don't want to do it the rookie. So
maybe that's the plan here. But it's just weird that
they would announce that he was getting out played, yet he's.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Going to be the starting quarter. That's your first impression.
What's your impression? Queue?
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Well, my first impression is I'm gonna transition to another
piece of breaking news. Oh, the Browns have restructured the
contract of Deshaun Watson. Oh, they are converting forty four
point eight million of his base salary in twenty twenty
four into a signing bonus. He gets that cash up
front right now, so that they creating thirty five point
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eight million. Now they can get rid of them. It's
just creating cap space. And so they'll now have sixty
two million in cap space, which is by far and
away the most in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
For what what are they doing? Yeah, I would think
they might try to make a move.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
You know, maybe maybe they're a potential suitor who knows
for Brendan and a yuk or a new contractor someone
who's looking for who knows it could be Hassan Reddick.
It's been quiet on that front, you know, maybe they'd
look at trying to stack bring him an even they
have Sadarius Smith. I mean, it's just that you don't
know what they're gonna end up doing with it. But
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that is by far and away the most cap space.
And if you had any doubts, as we've talked about
this at length, because his entire contracts guaranteed, so this
isn't to move on from him. It's the lesson, just
lesson their cap hit. But if you had any doubts
about the commitment they have to Deshaun Watson that I mean,
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ownership just paid him forty four million dollars right now
before the season, like they haven't done anything yet. In fact,
the preseason, it's not like he has shown anything yet.
So for the Browns fans out there, if there's concern
about what this may look like, put on your seatbelt
strap in. You were here for at least two three
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more years.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
He should have never gave him no money.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Deshauna has started one more game than he was suspended
a couple of years ago, and he just keeps getting paid.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Good for him, man, I mean, you know this, this
will be a case study.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
This will be a case study in most graduate schools
across the country in regards to this, you know, sports business.
At some point it will be a case study. Whether
it all works out or it doesn't, it'll be a
case study.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Well for him, but I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
For the team.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I'm talking about for the team, for ownership, for the
front office. And by the way, like the interesting thing
about this is when you make decisions like this to
create more cap space, like you're you're getting you're you're
checking this off from the owner, you know, like Jimmy
HASLM has to.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Be involved in this, like, Hey, this is what we're
looking at doing.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Are we good? Quep paying forty four million? Like, it's
just unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Man, it's fun for Deshaun Watson's fun for his agent,
David Luli, get it correct. I think he's the correct.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Yeah, you think I had the better season, Jacoby Brissett
or Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
I mean I've already said to you guys, I think
Cleveland wins the division.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Did you hear the I think this is the year
for them? The quote last year because Brissette was backing up.
He was the backup in Cleveland last year, correct, I
think correct?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
One of the backups.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
So Brissette said last year, they were like, you know,
how difficult is it for you to go in and
try not to be Deshaun Watson when you're out there
with this offense? And he's like, well, it's actually pretty
easy for me to not be Deshaun Watson. Like people
looked at it and said, well, he's right, Like, you know,
I don't know if he's meeting off the field or
on the field, but yeah, he's absolutely correct. And I
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think Jamis Winston's going to get some pt this year
some burn time as Brady Quiman.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Well, if he if he doesn't get traded to traded,
there's the potential chance he can get traded. I mean
there's some teams that I've said to you before, Jamis
Winston should be a starter in the NFL. I mean,
forget the pregame speeches and all that fun stuff we
see on social media. He should be a starter in
the NFL. The fact that there's a few teams out
there that should have traded for him to have his
services is a bit surprising. But if he gets his
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opportunity in Cleveland, I think he's gonna play well. I mean, look,
Brissett played well last year for like twenty five hundred
yards and twelve touchdowns. I think he had I don't
think he had that many picks, you know, So he
played well up to that point, and obviously Flacco came
in played well.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I mean, like I said, look.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
This is a as talented of a rosters you'll find
in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
I think this is Cleveland's year. I think they win
the division.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
I think they become a thorn in the side for
Kansas City. I mean, this is this is a Cleveland
team that almost had Kansas City beat in Kansas City?
Was that a couple of years ago? Yeah, but Chad
Henney came out on that fourth down with.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Baker Mayfield a quarterback. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
I mean it's it's one of those deals where, like,
I think this team is a lot closer to being
a contender than anyone realizes, and it's purely based on
the focus and everything on Watson, when really the roster
of the way it's constructed is as good as you'll find.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
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Speaker 2 (32:23):
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Some news has come in out of the NFL over
the past several minutes. Obviously New England name of Jacoby
Brissett the starting quarterback. But the Brown's also clearing up
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some CAF space by restructuring Deshaun Watson's contract. What's what's
really going on there in Cleveland. Why is this happening
this morning?
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I has a procedural move, you know, generally like and
then this is the way it is with Deshaun's contract.
You have trigger that allow you to move money around.
The Browns have done this, I think every well. I mean,
the first year was obviously set up that way, and
then they've done it the last couple of years. It
creates cap space so they can maneuver some things during
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the season, they trade that sort of stuff, you know,
and and and then if they have the space left over,
then they can just carry it over to the next year.
So I mean, I know every time that's happened, because
the Browns have done it a couple of times now.
They've done it with different players too, Like it looks
on paper like they've oh my god, they've got all
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this cap space. What are they going to do now?
And certainly, you know, like if if, if they were
going to revisit IUQ, like that's something that you know
would help them. But they've done this procedurally, you know,
almost every year to give themselves flexibility to going to
go into the year with all kinds of different players.
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So I wouldn't make too much out of it. If
they do wind up getting a big fish, great. If
they don't, then they just carry the money over the
next year.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Albert, help us understand the decision, bride grod Mayo, who
it sounded like that Drake May outplayed Jacoby Brissette, and
you can't answer and say he's a veteran, he's got experience,
blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You have to give me a real answer here.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I don't think I don't Brady. I think that this,
like legitimately is about prioritizing Drake May's development and feeling
like he's not ready and the team's not ready to
support him, you know, and so you take him third. Overall,
they reworked his front works from the ground up, and
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something I've talked to their coaches about, like they felt
like they were kind of getting him from zero based
on what he had learned in North Carolina, especially when
it comes to working from under center.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
And that's a real recruiting pitch for North Care.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
A lot of moving forward.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yeah, well, I guess, I mean from what he went through.
A couple of coordinators there too, right like still Longos
there and then left and went to Wisconsin and a
lot of what he was doing was out of the shotguns,
so so they have had to like rebuild his lower half,
and you know, there's a whole ten thousand reps thing.
And I think, like, you know, he's a good enough
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athlete where you might be able to game it up
a certain way and make it work for him because
he can, you know, create a little bit and in
playoff schedule a bunch. But you know, like the the
thing is, they don't really have the infrastructure personnel wise
to support him either. Their offensive line has been a
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dumpster fire through training camp. Their receivers are fine, but
not anything special, you know. I think as much as
anything else, it's like, okay, like, well, if we were
even going to think about putting him out there, we'd
want to have a really strong group around him, and
they don't have that right now. So I think this
is being done mostly in the name of his development.
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I think, you know, the offense to be more dangerous
with Drake in there, but you know, like they don't
want to mess with with the progress that he's made
based on who they would have to put him out
there with.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Abe. I'm curious to what what your take is or
knowledge of what's taking place in Cincinnati, because clearly Stefanski
was not in the know as to all of that information.
Is he now? And how should we be looking at
this Jamar Chase situation?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
You mean you mean that Taylor excuse me, excuse me,
excuse me exactly?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
All good?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
All good, I'll good. I won't make sure we're clear
on that. So so yeah, I mean, like I did this.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
To me.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
I think a big piece of this is just kind
of the effect that the CD Lamb contract had on
both you know, Jamar Chase and and Brandon Aiyuk actually
in San Francisco too, and that like now, the Justin
Jefferson deal is less of an outlier. And we talked
about this over the course of the off season. I
don't really think you can apply the A. J. Brown
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and Tyreek Kill contracts to this one because to these,
because those are more adjustments on existing contracts. You're talking
about young guys getting new contracts, like there were four,
you know, this off season. Earlier in the off season,
Jail and Wadald, Defonte Smith, Nico Collins, i'man Ross Saint Brown,
like the high twenty in the high twenties in real
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money and then Jefferson at thirty five. That's a huge gap.
And so you know, these teams were able to kind
of the Niners, the and and the Bengals were able
to say, well, the Jefferson deal is kind of an outlier. Well,
Lamb just signed at thirty four, so Jefferson deal isn't
an outlier anymore, you know, And like Jamar Chase is
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certainly well within his rights now to say, well, like,
if I'm looking at this for what it is, I'm
certainly in the class of if you, if you honestly,
I'm not in the class of Justin Fine. Certainly in
the class of CD Lamb based on what I've meant
to you over the first three years of my career,
so that's where I should be paid. So it wasn't
pretty yesterday, obviously. But I actually think in a certain
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way this simplifies the contract negotiation with the Angles because
I think there's no argument that he's a top five
receiver in the league and eventually they're going to have
to pay him there so makes it simpler with you know, IU,
I think it actually complicates things because they were working
on numbers that were lower than that, and so like
now that you have a second contract up in the
mid thirties, like it might cause I U can his
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camp to recink their position a little bit.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Albert Briers, Senior NFI reported with the MMQB, also lead
content strategist. Last one for me the decision in Pittsburgh
to name Russell Wilson the starter, but Mike Tomlin saying
there's going to be packages out there for Justin fields
to get on the field. Yeah, is this basically russ
is going to have this moving forward because we were
wondering at that point where will there be a switch
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if need be?
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Yeah, Yeah, And I think that that's I think, you know,
really having the flexibility to do that as part and
parcel to making this decision. Look like the Steelers offensive
coaches went into a deep dive on Justin this offseason,
dug true things and try to figure out how he
lost his confidence in Chicago. And you know one thing
that they I know they did was they just made
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a decision to go back to the footwork and some
of the mechanical stuff he was doing in Ohio State.
And so you know, it took a while for that
to take but I'd say over the last month or so,
that's really started to show up in practice where he's
playing faster and more confidently, and then it really really
showed up in the game the last preseason game against Detroit,
to the point where there were people in that building
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who felt like we should just stay the hell with
it and start Justin because there's more upside here and
we sort of know the limitations that we're going to
be dealing with with Russell now. I think ultimately a
big picture, you know, if you're ol Mar Kahn, the
GM and obviously my comin the head coach, you know
part of this is maybe giving yoursel of two shots
at it. Right like where if you start Justin, I
don't know if you can even keep Russell Russell on
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the roster, and it would be much harder to go
from Russell to Justin, from Justin to Russell than it
would be to go from Russell to Justin. So I
think in this way, they take a shot with Russell,
and whether it's a month two months in, they'll they'll
have a chance to reassess and if they have to
go to Justin, they can where going in the other
direction would have been really difficult. And remember like this
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is a this is a head coach, a general manager wherever.
The last couple of years they have had to make
quarterback changes in the season. So you know, I know
that that that that's part of the thought process here.
We'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
He is Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
at the MMQB.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
You can get him on x.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Aut Albert Breer AB. We appreciate it. We'll talk again
next week when we get set for real games in
the NFL coming up this season.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Absolutely, thanks guys, have a great show on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
Brady there he is.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Look at that. I just wish like it just being
a nice guy here. Never mind the fact that LeVar
and I also have shows on Saturday, but never mind us.
You know, screw it. It is two pros and a
cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Let's say keep the
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Change, no charge, Homide