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September 21, 2024 57 mins

This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Chiefs are on the verge of becoming unlikeable. The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks all things College Football including blowouts and the Dolphins place Tua on IR in order to save face.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the best of two pros and a couple. Joe
with Lamar arrings Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on Box
Forts Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Damn?

Speaker 4 (00:24):
All right?

Speaker 3 (00:27):
We are we are off and running here on a
Monday morning. What we're doing following a week two action
in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
That's what it was called?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Lots of lots of stuff going on in college football. Well,
I was waiting for this to happen. I knew it
was going to happen eventually, and I was wondering, all right,
when are we going to take the turn?

Speaker 5 (00:47):
All right?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
When is it going to go from feel good love
it to the law offices of.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Bitch and moan checking in every single week?

Speaker 6 (00:56):
Well, you totally was calling on off hours last night
on the challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well we'll get well, we'll get to that later.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
But I was waiting on when the Chiefs were going
to become unlikable.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
And I think we're at that point at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well like, not for me, not for me. I got
no issue with it.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
They're just who they are, man.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
And And here's the thing. The Patriots went through this.
Every dynasty goes through the turn where it's feel good
it's new, it's fresh, and then all of a sudden
the accusations start.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
They get every call, they get the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
And so now following another great matchup between Cincinnati and
Kansas City, people are complaining about defensive pass interference being called.
They're complaining about the Chiefs getting all the calls. It
was clearly a past interference. Kansas City is the best
team in the league. Yeah, we are now at the
point to where I think people are getting fed up

(01:59):
with it and are now bitching and moaning constantly.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
I think there's a lot of miscalls in all the games.
I mean I saw I was starting to write down
notes on fed up calls, and it was so many
I just stopped. I was like, I don't even because
I'm going to reference and refer to down.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, you.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
Could be an a hole about it, but if they were
being honest about it, I just didn't feel like doing it.
I mean, I was looking at it. We could start
off Monday with.

Speaker 7 (02:34):
You know, realize the monumental task would have been to
write down all the holding calls and Bess.

Speaker 6 (02:40):
Especially with everything I got going on, you should have
called me before you started that task. I said, don't
do it. It's gonna take too long. Yeah, whatever, Q,
you came in hot today. You know what fines grew you. Hey,
but listen, though there were a lot of bad calls,
there have been bad calls. There were bad calls at college,
there were bad There was a lot of bad calls

(03:01):
this weekend. Like I was looking at it, and I
felt like there were some like what was the game?
The USC game, the Southern Carolina game?

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Bad calls?

Speaker 6 (03:11):
Organs, you push the guy dang quarterback on his shoulder?
How is that? That's the That was the one most
egregious thing to me that I've been looking at is
how are how the quarterbacks are treated? It's like anything
and everything. If it's in, if it's in any type
of question, throw the flag. I don't understand how how

(03:35):
was that a what was it too much? It was
too much roughness or something like that on the quarterback?

Speaker 4 (03:41):
What was it? What was it?

Speaker 6 (03:44):
Because I'm confused anyway, I just saw a lot of
like Shore Kansas City, when they're they're just better, Like, Okay,
there's a lot they get calls. Okay, I get it,
calls go their way, all right. The Chiefs are better,
it seems are just they're that team.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
It's New England all over again. They're going to win
close games, don't it's New England.

Speaker 7 (04:08):
But here's the thing I'll say, why it's not New
England is because they don't act like New England. They
don't play like New England. New England in particular Brady's
first three years, it was much more of a we're
gonna win tight games and we're gonna get by on
a field goal. That was kind of the first three

(04:30):
Super Bowls. It was like, oh, he's gonna drive down
when you have a kick for a field goal. Now, yes,
that's how they won this past week. But it feels
like it's more of Mahomes. It feels like it's more
big plays. It feels like it more comes down to
a drive. Is something else. And I would say that
their defense last year, you might have been say it
was comparable to what the Patriots had early on for

(04:51):
that reign, but not not what their first couple of
Super Bowls were.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
I mean, the Chiefs defense is getting there.

Speaker 7 (04:58):
It wasn't as dominant as the Patriots was, but there's
similarities in the case that if you stay what the hero?

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Long enough, you turn into the villain.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (05:07):
And that's where we're at, right, not to pull line
for Batman, but that's ultimately where we're at. Is they
are turning into the villain. And you could chalk it
up to a number of reasons. It always starts off
with the greatness and the haters, because there's going to
be haters when you're that good, all right, just haters heightened.
But then it transitions to even like all the commercials,

(05:29):
the jealousy that comes.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
With that, Oh they get all the calls?

Speaker 7 (05:33):
Is there somebolity that yes, well, Taylor Swift that plays part.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Of the girl.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah, but think about this.

Speaker 7 (05:45):
No one's gotten more past interference calls since twenty eighteen,
all right, on plays that would have otherwise been incomplete
or not counted than Patrick Maholmes. I think he's that
like it's eighteen sixteen, something like that. In twenty eighteen,
no one's had more. Now that's not a ton, right,
You're talking about six year, sixth season span. Okay, and

(06:09):
think about how many games that is and then how
many plays that is. You're saying, all right, it's sixteen
eight what however many times has been Okay, he's got
the most Well, maybe there's a reason for it, you know,
maybe the reality is they're the team that defenses are
trying their best to stop in those final moments, and
they get desperate and they make a poor decision and
it's passive interference. This was like classic pass interference the

(06:32):
definition of it. On that particular play, I actually thought
the hands to the face, the hands of the face,
called that before that when they converted on fourth and six.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Then they brought it back for the illegal hands to
the face.

Speaker 7 (06:45):
I thought that was more of a kind of a
I don't know, it seemed more incidental.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
It wasn't.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
It wasn't as big of an impact even done to
the play as it seemed to be.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
So then you back them up the fourth and sixteen.
Now you complain about that. I don't know. Again, you
might think they get a lot of calls the re audience.
They're just that good.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
Man, Pat.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
Pat didn't even play Patrick didn't even.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Play that well. They didn't even play that well.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
It was it was the defense in a lot of
ways that that was the reason why they won that game.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
I could watch those two teams play every single day.
I don't.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
And they don't like they get after it and listen,
they they know Spags knows how to to get to them.
I mean they they they pressure him, They they make
them uncomfortable and and they contain like they they you're

(07:40):
not going to stop the Chief's offense. You're not going
to totally stop them. You have to contain them. It's
like contain, contain, contain it. And they do a really
really fine job of doing it. I mean, we watched
a masterful job by flora As yesterday. Defensively, I would
have never thought that that would have took place. You know,
you slow down a Shanahan offense.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
But you know what that that there's just a certain
there's a certain.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Group of guys that know how to defensively scheme and
scheme in a way where it's just it's it's fun
to watch watching Cincinnati play against the Chiefs and how
they're able to have you know, so much, so much success.
I mean I find it to be pretty it's as

(08:33):
a defender, I know, as some people that may not
like it, but like.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
I mean, listen, I like seeing that.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
I like seeing defensive games, and that was that's generally
a defensive game.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
When you see those two.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I mean the past interference penalty. First of all, it
was the right call. Secondly, Joe burrows fumble is what
changed the game. Like it felt like Cincinnati had an
opportunity to really take advantage. You know, they were up,
they had the ball, they were starting to find something,
and then he fumbles. There's a scoop score and still
they had an opportunity to win that game late. But

(09:05):
I look at it and I go, if you're Cincinnati,
you come away from that game going you feel better
about your performance because you didn't look as bad as
you did in Week one. But there were opportunities for
them to win that game.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Imagine if they're Tennessee. I mean same different one.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
Two mistakes, Man, this was I saw a lot of mistakes.
You know what I saw. I saw teams that didn't
make mistakes, like critical mistakes, and I saw teams that
make critical mistakes. And those are differences. I meant Patrick
had two interceptions in the game. How many did how
many did how many did Caleb Williams have? People were

(09:40):
like eating his lunch, including you, Jonas two hundred?

Speaker 4 (09:44):
How many?

Speaker 6 (09:45):
How many interceptions did he throw?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Like three? Two? Should have been three. He threw two.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
So he threw the same amount pretty much as Patrick Mahomes,
and people are like nailing him to the cross today. Man,
it's like the had had some bad moments, like he
had some some I'm just going to throw the ball
up moments. So did Patrick Mahomes. I'm just throw the
ball up moments. Difference is is Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes.

(10:11):
So you know it's going to be judged and looked
that differently.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
But I'm just it's more calculated by Mahomes when he
throws it up. Guys come down with the ball or
they get like a past interference. Other guys do it.
It's like, oh.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
You do that?

Speaker 3 (10:25):
The can Taylor britt interception, the one handed grab indible?

Speaker 4 (10:28):
All right? Is that gloves or is that grip?

Speaker 7 (10:31):
It's both, but it's both. I mean, give the man credit.
You don't make a pick like that and not have
some sort of hands to it. But can I give
you an overarching theme that I think we're seeing right
now in the NFL as well as college because I
feel like we're not gonna newsflash, We're not going to

(10:52):
have a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
That plays as well with c J. Stroud last year.
Is that safe to say?

Speaker 7 (10:58):
Okay, yes, a nomaly like that doesn't come around very often,
and I think they went back to show like he
led the league in passing yards per game at what
two seventy five, which you have to go back to
like the Sammy Baugh era, right, So we're not going
to see that again.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
It's very clear, very evident.

Speaker 7 (11:18):
Even though we had that many quarterbacks taken in the
top of the first round. What we're seeing them at
both levels is quarterbacks who are kind of thrust it
into play. Like in college right now, the transfer portal,
you get these coaches who want to go after a
quarterback and they've got a guy who's got experience, or
he's a little older, so he's an upperclassman, and their

(11:38):
thought is, well, we're gonna plug him into our offense
and this offense will be able to make him work. No,
there's a few exceptions. Cam Woard's the only exception in
my mind right now, based on what we've seen in
college football as far as seeing a guy who's truly
excelling at a really really high level at a blue blood,
big stage school. I mean, I guess you could you're

(12:01):
may throw in coyleb Accords at a good job so
far at Syracuse, but there are a lot of guys.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Who are struggling or applying just average.

Speaker 7 (12:10):
And then you go to the NFL level and you
get all these rookies who these teams have drafted them,
they want to play them right away, and they're struggling.
They are not playing the way we saw at least
even in preseason. Now you've got teams game planning for
you and the struggles real. And so that's not to
say that they're not going to be able to figure
it out and continue to grow and everyone's gonna have

(12:31):
a different learning curve. But the truth is we look
at some of the best in the league and how
they got their opportunity to play. It was either a
long time of playing and allowing them to develop and
not making this snap judgment on what they're going to
be or what they are as a quarterback after even
their rookie year or their second year, like Josh Allen

(12:52):
who went into.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Three years of playing three full years of playing, or you.

Speaker 7 (12:58):
Sit them do what exactly what Drown Mayle's doing in
New England and you say, I have a guy, but
I don't think he's ready yet. So I'm having Jacoby
Brissette take us out and look, we're gonna lose some games,
lost one to Seattle yesterday, but it's what's best for
organization and Drake may moving forward. Otherwise you might get
hurt like Jon Daniels did in Washington, or you're gonna

(13:22):
go out there and you're not gonna look anywhere close
to what you did in preseason, like bow Nick so far,
Killer Williams so far. So there's a bunch of examples
of it, but that's to me, even the overarching theory
theme after three weeks of college and two weeks so
far in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
By the way, cam Warden now the favorite to win
the Heisman courtesy DraftKings.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
As he should be.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
The dude throws lasers and he also should be talked
about as the top end of the first round.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
He's that impressive. At first, I was like, all right,
is he really six ' too?

Speaker 7 (13:53):
I'm curious to see his hype, but man, he his poise,
the way he plays like he's got everything, every slanging it.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Here on Fox Sports Dinglabar Arrington Brady. So we are
going to have coming up later on now, by the way,
we're gonna have Lee's leftovers.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
We don't have well, we don't have which.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
Ones the ones that's going on right now, the left
right now? What a different? Well which ones you talk?
That's all different?

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Left over? Universal CityWalk got Lee?

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Uh so now we're all.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
To anybody could how did the challenge go last night? Absolutely?
I watched it better, better than week one.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
I don't know what Week one looked like because I
just saw it and went to sleep, But last night
was was good. And you wore different color suit? Man
God blessed?

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Was he went all black?

Speaker 6 (14:53):
Blue?

Speaker 5 (14:54):
Blue?

Speaker 6 (14:54):
Okay, maybe with some white blue? Rob Rob had on
like the old hit like you know jacket, what about
uh blue or what's his name?

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Uh? Who?

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Manola, No he's not there, he's not there. Limited appearances
this year.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
Okay, okay, probably for the better, but it was still interesting.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
I think that kind of ran its course.

Speaker 7 (15:18):
If you want me to be honest, I'm just saying
for the clips I saw, it's like, you know, I mean,
I think we can move.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
It wasn't the.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Show, but yeah, Lee Rena did show up, they were there,
made an appearance, and everyone don't start that what.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
They're not together? Nobody's saying there together, but it just works.

Speaker 7 (15:48):
I mean, Lorena, why would you be so defiant saying that?

Speaker 4 (15:52):
I mean, like couple's names, I know, but then something
start with els.

Speaker 7 (15:57):
We have LeVar, Lee and Lorena, but we ain't doing
Lee Rena.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
She's right because you don't invite LeVar, you invite Lee out.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
I asked Mark he wanted to go today?

Speaker 7 (16:08):
He said HeiG, no, I don't want to watch jonas that.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
It was like that are going you want to go?
You want some prisent f No.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
I don't know Lorena and out with Lee before?

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Why are you like trying to distance yourself?

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Alf?

Speaker 4 (16:26):
How bad was I getting murdered?

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Did something changed the past week? By the way, you
want to know, you want to know the best part
to know.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
So Lee walks up and some guy from the production
crew comes back and he goes, hey, man, there's some
guy there like named Lee or whatever, and like he says,
he's like here for the show or something like oh yeah,
I know. When I walk over there, and Lee's literally
like it lit up. Salmon shorts Everyone's like, what's with
this guy?

Speaker 4 (16:53):
I was like, oh, salmon, what did you say? What
you were salmon pants?

Speaker 2 (16:58):
That is true, Yeah, but he was the only one
like it was. Everyone was kind.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Of, uh, why are you let him out like that?

Speaker 7 (17:05):
Yeah, you're making you're literally talking about yourself at times.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
This is how we talked about you. I wasn't wearing shorts.
I know you.

Speaker 7 (17:12):
Weren't last week. There's times when you do stuff. Were like,
you're the only one.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
I mean, look, we're at a golf course and I
was told that that dress code was appropriate where everyone.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Else was wearing shorts list and you wore long salmon pants.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Look, I know you're new to Tartan Field. Let me
explain how this works. You go there and they say listen,
no jeans, all right, no like a T shirts, nothing
like that. So I walked in with some salmon pants
and a decent golf shirt that was like eleven dollars.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
And uh, and we made it worse stress for us. Yeah,
So what I mean you said was slurring his words
when I was to get.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, let's try to get that's well, that's the other
part that right now.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
Oh he's the leftovers be sharing Leftoversaren I did hit.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
Up Lee on the radio yesterday because I go watch
this also with Chopper and I go Lee will be
the only one who will have his radio on spond
right away. And so Chopper was talking to Lee on
the radio, Lee was talking back to really oh yeah,
a full blown conversation.

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Speaker 4 (20:28):
Oh yeah, and that.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
One man is the Old pe Petros Papadakis, the co
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hear on Blowtorch and five seventy LA sports Fox college
football Analysts and get him on X at the Old
pe a Wednesday tradition. Unlike any other Petros, good morning,
how we feel on morning, sir?

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Good morning everybody. Wel unturn. Yeah, happy to see you guys.
Even though I'm not looking at you. We don't do
this zoom thing here. We don't anyway.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
You know.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
I do it, but you know it's hard enough just
to push the button this early.

Speaker 6 (21:10):
I listened to you do your your telecast this past weekend.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
Oh god, that was the second biggest blowout I've ever called.
And I've called a lot of blowouts, right like, I've
called a lot of blowouts, and I could not believe
how big of a blowout that was.

Speaker 7 (21:31):
Can you explain to listeners Petros like that's that's when
you earn your paycheck as a color analyst.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Is that fair to say?

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Yeah? But you out you You know, when I do
a TV game, it's a lot different than radio, right,
You're you're working in radio. We all love Lee to
Lap and everybody involved. Well, yes, but he forgot to
text me last night. But yes, But the truth is,

(22:03):
like you guys know, if you do radio, it's got
to really kind of come from you. If you're not
inspired to do the job and have the ideas and
do the daily show and figure out what you want
to talk about, the producer is not going to help
you that much you could have. You can't really produce

(22:25):
around bad radio talent, right, But in TV you can
produce around anything. You know, TV everything shorter, twenty thirty
seconds at a time, where in radio, you know, those
twenty thirty seconds are like ten minutes. So the point is,
if you're on TV, you can use the producer, the director,
the play by play guy. You don't have to do

(22:47):
it all yourself. You know, every once in a while
you can grab the bag and run with it for
a while because you have a lot to fill. But
it is hard, There's no question you know, it's hard
when you look and there's nine minutes left in the
third quarter, a team is down sixty, right, So now
you're and so they're putting a bunch of people in
that you don't even have prepared four through string guys. Yeah,

(23:09):
and it's just like that. The biggest and that was
Texas Tech for people that don't know, because I know
if people don't follow me that closely. Texas Tech, North Texas,
the Mean Green, the Mean Green was undefeated and then
they took it right in the ball. And the sad
part is the North Texas coach Eric Morris is like
a great slot receiver for Leech. You know, he scored

(23:29):
a touchdown in that Texas Crabtree game, scored the winning
touchdown in their big Nebraska game. He's like a Texas
Tech legend. Was an oc there with Mahomes and they
had three straight picks for three straight touchdowns in the
second quarter.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Hey, I mean that's a rough waiting that history making.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
Well, the biggest blowout I've ever seen was Matt Liinert's
USC team, produced by the now the now president of Fox.
One of our bosses, Brad Zeger, was the producer of
the game and we it was Arkansas USC five right,

(24:13):
a liner, Reggie.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Bush, McFadden tea.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
That's the crazy thing that Nebraska had McFadden, Peyton hillis
Arkansas Arkansas Arkansas?

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Excuse me?

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah, yeah, Nebraska is not involved, that's all right. Arkansas
had Peyton Hillis, they had McFadden, and they had Jones. Yeah,
so they had all three of those backs. Houston Nutt
was the Arkansas coach, and I remember my partner, but yeah,
my partner Barry Thompson's nuts. We went all the way

(24:49):
out to West LA for some reason, which was where
Arkansas was staying for no good reason, and we sat
there and listened to Houston Nutt and we were inspired
by him, you know, talking about how he's gonna let USC, who.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Was inspired by the nut run all over them.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
You know, they're not gonna this is an SEC team
and we're not gonna let USC come in here. And
this and that and uh and I think Arkansas scored
it early. They scored like a seven. They scored seven
points early, and we had a camera on their sideline
and they were like, you know, they're just the average
SEC team. This and that, and USC won that game

(25:24):
seventy to seven. Dang seventy to seven, and I was
reading my driver's license after that one. That was a
tough one. That was two thousand and five. I was
pretty young, guys.

Speaker 7 (25:36):
So that's what I'm saying, is like, so for Tom
Brady's first game he ever calls, it's like the Browns
get blown out by the Dallas Cowboys, And I'm thinking
to myself, Man, of all the games that he had
to start off his career on, it's a blowout where you,
as an analyst, you have to unload everything that you've
got to put into the broadcast.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Unloaded, and everybody's there to help you do that too, right,
Like the producer is gonna say, like on your way in,
So yeah, everybody. So he had a lot of support, right,
so they'd be like, coming in, we're gonna do the
history of the Browns, weird little elf, and then we're
going to talk about that for a couple of plays
while they're playing because it's a blowout. But at least

(26:18):
in that regard, you know, it's a pro football game.
They're not going to put in that many backups because
there aren't that many. But you get a football team
of one hundred and twenty guys and they got gerd
Jot Dolly Wall catching the ball in the in the
fourth quarter and you're just like, hell, you know, I mean, it's.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
It is.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
But you know, that is the job. You know, you
get to sign the game and you call the game
no matter what you know. And you could call a
game that goes into quadruple overtime that everybody's talking about
that no one knew about before the game started, or
you could end up, you know, calling what you thought
was going to be a great game and it's a blowout.
That's the job. But yeah, seventy to seven Arkansas USC

(26:58):
two thousand and five, what.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Was the best game you called?

Speaker 3 (27:02):
We don't be negative all the time here, Like, what
is there a game that you look back on and go.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Well that two thousand and five, you know, when USC
lost to Texas. That's a pretty legendary year in college football,
or at least in my mind. And it was a
legendary year for USC football. And we had a lot
of those games. Just the Pac twelve Game of the week,
you know, if they could do it, they'd pick se

(27:26):
And there wasn't as much East Coast presence for ESPN
and and places like that. So I did that fog
game in Oregon State, remember that one? Oh yeah, I
did the game where Marshawn Lynch was driving around. I
don't remember what year that one.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah, that was so well.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
We thought it was Desmond Bishop right because they had
two number tens and it was an overtime game and
Desmond Bishop caught the interception and ran it back and
then coming out of the same end zone wearing the
number was Marshawn Lynch driving the cart. So we screwed
up the call. Many years ago, we didn't know it

(28:10):
was Marshawn Lynch. Double numbers got us in that one
and a seventy five year old play by playman, but
I didn't know either though. So I did that game
at Oklahoma State versus what was it Central Michigan where
Oklahoma State said they didn't lose and Central Michigan said

(28:31):
they both claimed victory with a weird ending and like
a pitch on a long pass because the quarterback didn't
have enough arm to make it all the way to
the end zone. That was a wild ending. Gosh, I
forget what year that was, But yeah, I've done a
lot of great games and you kind of remember those

(28:51):
and you remember the blowouts, and hell I did Cincinnati
Houston last year and I like totally forgot about it.
I have it again this week.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Nice.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
So uh that's a uh, that's a repeat from year
in and year out. I don't know. You just get
interested in your little world and and and try to
handle it. But if you're Tom Brady, everybody's listening and
freaking out about every word, and you get spliced. Like
Jason Witten, I was glad everybody kind of eased off
him in week two.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
It seemed like, Yeah, speaking of Tom Brady and yourself
and your world.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
You're you're a very different world.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
You're a different worlds collide this weekend. What what's your uh,
what's your thought on on them going to the Big
House as Big Ten participants?

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Well, I think everybody feels a lot differently about the
game than we did if we were talking about it
in August, right, I mean, everybody feels like us. He
has much more of a chance and I think USC
is gonna win the game. Oh, I mean, what does
Michigan have. They have Donovan Edwards, they have they have
a Trump trouble at quarterback. They just made a change
to alex Orgy, which is the uh in well, that's

(30:04):
the uh pause, that's the RG three. You know they're
having an orgy in Theienzole, right, Big Panix Energy beat
up that Beaver. Oh my god, I'm fired. What happened? Ohang?
But yeah, they change quarterbacks, and you don't change quarterbacks, Beaver.

(30:24):
You don't change quarterbacks in September because you're doing well.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
That guy Warren was a great story, Davis Warren, Yeah,
great story, but has not been performing. I think he
just threw three picks against Arkansas State, so they're in turmoil. USC.
It is tackling if you can't just run through USC
at the second level and rip off big plays and

(30:50):
you got to earn it all the way down the field.
And they're athletic and they can tackle like a USC
or a blue blood type of team is supposed to
be able to do that. I think they'll be in
the game, and if the moment's not too big for
Miller Moss and he's accurate, they'll be able to run
the ball. Lincoln Rowland's going to call plays now. Michigan's
probably got a little bit of a physical advantage, but

(31:12):
tactically and moving the ball wise, I mean, it's got
to be USC. They've been smooth all year, so I'd
be very interested to see. But I don't think Michigan
looks like the world beater that they were obviously last year,
or even the way we thought about him before the
season started.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
UCLA.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
They get their first taste of the Big Ten this
past weekend and get annihilated by Indiana.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
How bad is.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
This going to go for them this year? Because it
feels like two different conversations between them and USC.

Speaker 7 (31:43):
Yeah, worse than Deshaun Foster's Big Ten media day.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
Well, one of their first plays. Offensively, they're trying to
separate themselves from that by one of them.

Speaker 7 (31:54):
Dang, I get I would too, Tay.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
You know, they canceled an interview with me.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
No, no, they did that.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
They had that moment right, and then they called our
show and said, you know, can you have him on
or I'm not sure maybe we called them, but we
booked him for a live show after that in Thousand
Oaks where there'd be like three four five hundred white people.
Oh yeah, when there's about you were there, Jonas? Yeah, yeah,

(32:26):
you saw the show. Sorry, I can't do your djvely.
But so we invited to Sean Foster and we booked
him and I was like in my mind, like, Wow,
this will be great. He'll come on our show. We'll
have a laugh about Big ten Media Day, we'll talk about,

(32:46):
you know, adjusting to talking to media. We'll have a
real kind of fun, honest conversation about it. And they
called the night before and they were like, hey, you know,
you can't mention the media day stuff. And I was like, well,
it doesn't work that way. You either trust me with
your coach or you don't. You know, I interview coaches
for a living. It's not it's not my job, or

(33:08):
it's not in my best interest to make enemies of everybody.
We just do the job and have a little fun
and trust me, he'll be happy with the interview. And
then they called the next morning and canceled it. You know,
it just seems like they're really insecure about everything going
on over there. And I heard they gave him a
lot of resources. They gave him a game ball. After

(33:31):
he won his first game, the ad ran down in
the in the locker room in Hawaii and gave him
a game ball, and it's just a very interesting situation.
I really hope that they improve. They had some real
and I hate the word because it always sounds like
you're blaming the team and not the coaches, and it's
really everybody to blame when you lose a football game.

(33:52):
But they really had some execution problems. I'm in one
of their first plays of the game, the back comes
over in a mesh and just knocks the ball out
of the quarterback's hand with his elbow, you know, And
so that kind of stuff was really executionally off for them.
It felt like Indiana. I don't know how good Indiana is.

(34:15):
I know that coach is new Signetti and he wins,
but yeah, google me, I win. Yeah. But some of
the people that watched that game top to bottom said
they don't think UCLA is gonna win another game this season.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
And it was brutal.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
Yeah, the schedule's hard, they're going to the Death Valley
this week, but one in LSU the tougher one than
Clemson these days. But yeah, I don't I don't know
what the endgame is. I don't think And a lot
of people are like, that's it, one and done for
Deshaun it's like, no, that's not gonna happen unless he
punches somebody like Jimmy Lake. So I don't I don't

(34:54):
know where they go from here, but it is a
bit of an overreaction after two games to throw up
your hands and say it's all I'd like to give
to Sean the benefit of the doubt and try to
help this get get him to help this team to
improve before we start to start digging his grave. But
certainly not a good couple weeks to start the season
for UCLA. You know, speaking of DJ's you know what,

(35:15):
it reminded me of Jonas when you were doing this
stupid voice.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah, what's that?

Speaker 5 (35:20):
This LeVar might not know this, but my LeVar might
know this. Brady's not there. Used to be a guy
in La on Star ninety two point three, right, which
was ninety two the beat excuse me ninety two said
trot point three to beat the only stiashan not true.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
To the street.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
No, they had a guy named THEO, right, THEO, and
he did afternoons and he had a real deep, serious,
sexy voice, like Berry White type of thing, right, like,
oh everybody, this is THEO. And that was Jodasy feed
it right, I can't leave you a lord, right, You've

(36:04):
got me feed you know that guy?

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Right?

Speaker 5 (36:07):
So THEO was this deep ass voice student everybody. The
ladies love THEO, you know, ninety two to three. They'd
be calling like, you.

Speaker 9 (36:15):
Know THEO, Well, you played in body Rock and knocking
the booths H Town by h Town, you know, or
you know, a shy ere five a fair.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
I will be.

Speaker 10 (36:31):
Shure by the way, ever fall, I will.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
By the way, Petros, I think I know where you're
going with this story.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
But so THEO, like THEO, had the black community absolutely riveted.
I mean, was the man. And then it came out
he was LEO was going to not know no that
THEO was going to do an appearance on a very
popular sitcom and this brings the LA radio market to

(37:14):
the national world. A popular syndicated sitcom starring a girl
with her eyes so far apart named Brandy Dang ray
J's sister. The name of the show was Moesha Mo
to the and THEO was going to make an appearance.
THEO turned out to be a five foot seven Korean.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Manang THEO Misahara.

Speaker 6 (37:43):
Brandy and THEO and I remember him.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
I don't know a problem with that.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
I don't believe he lasted another month in LA Radio.
I think THEO THEO ended up being jettison to a
more friendly market.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
He told me the black community had an issue with the.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
I'm not saying they did, but I can't remember like existing.
But I just remember the dudes in the stretch lights
being like, Field's Korean.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
We've been hoodwinked.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Yeah, weeping bad, but.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
We're expecting Mookie. We got show.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
Hey what happened every night?

Speaker 4 (38:19):
All dang?

Speaker 5 (38:21):
Every night everybody was touching their own boobs at the rhythm,
tell you maybe, let me hear your maybe. Everybody loved
feel And then he showed up on Brandy and he
was like, hey, oh by from Korea.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
That is crazy.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
Well, I tell you what speaking of Yeah, yeah, I
was looking at it.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
I was looking at you know, just looking show him
a picture of the area.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
Already knew who he was.

Speaker 6 (38:52):
I remember him from the show. I remember the dude
from the show. I wasn't a big Moesia watcher, but
I do remember the show.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
That's unfortunate. They should have just kept that.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
And speaking of urban nineties and eighties sitcoms, Uh, family
matters is a little bit like what's going on in Carolina,
except in reverse. That guy that Bryce Young, when he
was at modern Day here in Alabama, he was like
Stefan and now that he's with Carolina morph.

Speaker 6 (39:26):
By the way, because stephone was definitely cool.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
He was Pete. Doesn't that bum you out? You've spoken highly.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Of h of Bryce Young in the past, kind of
bums you out to see how that's turned in Carolina.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
That's a that's a rough spot.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
To be in. Yeah, I mean, the interesting thing is
and and look, if if picking quarterbacks was easy, it'd
be a lot easier. But we had those three guys
in La DJ who is really struggling mightily more than Bryce, right,
and he didn't really get paid as much as Bryce.
You got Bryce who was beaten I think by DJ

(40:02):
in a really big championship game. And then you had CJ. Stroud,
who none of us knew way out there in San
Burdu Not that none of us knew him, but he
certainly wasn't thought of in the same light as those
other two guys. And it's just very interesting the circumstance
of football. You look at five years later, you know,

(40:22):
DJ's on the brink of losing his job. Bryce Young
just lost his job, and CJ. Stroud from San Bernardino
is the number one guy. And Jayden Daniels is a
trip too. I mean he he in Arizona State. He
could barely throw the ball downfield or didn't and they
had that great running back that's at Tampa Bay two

(40:43):
and Arizona State on those teams with herm and they
weren't good. And the guy turns around, goes to LSU,
wins a heisman and gets picked real high. So all
those guys were here in La, you know. And it's
interesting to see how it plays out because djuing Galle
used to come on our show all he was the
anointed one, and he's probably ended up the worst of

(41:04):
the bunch.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Damn well, Pee, We appreciate it. Always a fun ride
at the old p on X and we'll do.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
It again next week.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
So we got the news yesterday.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
I don't know this is this much of a surprise,
but the Dolphins are placing Tuataga bay Loa on IR.
He will have to miss at least four games. Now
is it four games or four weeks? If the specifics
on that, because they those four weeks. Okay, so he'll
be out for four weeks, four games.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Whatever, But the move was made.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
They brought in Snoop Puntley, who we were trying to
figure out when that name changed. They've got Skyler Thompson there.
And so now this porn star, yeah, I mean I
never heard of. Yeah, it sounds a little bit like
a point star, that doesn't it Skyler Thompson? I mean yeah,
but I know now, I mean, thanks.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
You are aware of that.

Speaker 6 (42:11):
I saw that in the show notes. Hey, you guys
are good at good at identifying born names.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
So so with that being said, is the season on
the brink for the Dolphins if t is out for
these four games?

Speaker 4 (42:27):
And what's my man?

Speaker 5 (42:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
I can't figure out the TVs right now.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
I got alien Coop watches zero sports on TV during
the Ben Mallory shown. But that being said, a lot
of ta watching TV. Well, I mean, the Dolphins is
gonna be watching the playoffs at home, they're going to
be watching a lot of TV two stretch.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Yeah, come on, have a little faith. They got enough talent.
But here's their.

Speaker 7 (42:55):
Schedule coming up at Seattle versus Tennessee at in New England.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
By Yeah, that's not bad.

Speaker 7 (43:03):
They can They can theoretically on two and one, three
and zero. Yeah, I guess if it was gonna happen,
this is probably the best part of the schedule it
could have happened.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Why can't you guys be a little more respectful to
the New England Patriots, Like.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
I know that we know who they are. I mean,
I've been nothing but respectful of them this entire offseason.
I'm not saying that they are not going to be good.

Speaker 7 (43:24):
I'm just saying that that three game stretch, granted two
of the three are on the road, it still gives
you a shot. And here's the other thing. I don't
know if it's Scalar Thompson's going to be the guy
or Snoop or Tyler Huntley is gonna end up being
elevated into the role. I personally like Tyler Huntley. I
think he'd probably be better for the system. And one of

(43:46):
the reasons why I think he's gonna be able to
adapt to it faster than people think is he's been
with Stefanski and that tree actually comes from the Mike
Shanahan tree, which see Mike McDaniel's from. But Stefanski was
with Kubiak Kubiak who comes from Mike Shanahan and all that.

(44:06):
So the terminology should be similar even though they don't
run or doesn't look exactly the same in Cleveland, and
obviously what Miami does there is there is gonna be
some similarities as far as the verbiage and some of
the terminology. So I think he'll be able to get
up to speed relatively fast, and I'm sure that was
part of the thought process and bringing him in specifically.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
By the way, you want to know how bad Will
Levis and the Titans have been through two games, which,
according to our friends of DraftKings, the look ahead betting
line on the Dolphins Titans for next week, not this week,
but the week after, the Dolphins are six and a
half point favorite. The hell is that six and a
half point fit with with no Tua that that feels

(44:51):
like a bit of a stretch. But maybe to your point,
this is if you're gonna have this happen. This is
the time of year and this is the stretch that
it can happen and save the sea.

Speaker 6 (44:59):
You know, the point in a show prior after after
the Tua concussion that this is a bad look for
the National Football League. This isn't just a bad look
if we're looking at it in terms of how does
this houses get handled by the Dolphins. This is a
this is a shield issue, and you know, you look

(45:21):
around and you see how many people are chiming in,
People that don't even pay attention to football are chiming
in on Tua and what he should do. This is
this has transcended just being a football topic, a a
Dolphins topic. This is a yeah, you do hate it
because everybody who's talking about it, they they they take

(45:44):
the narrative, they take the lane of he's got to retire,
Oh my gosh, his health for the rest of his life.
He what you know, then you have players doing it.
You know, I don't know if you guys saw what
what Nate Burleson did, like where he got a message.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
He reached out to Javid Bess who if you know
who remember who he was.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
He was pretty talented running back out of cow that
got drafted to Detroit, and he kept getting concussions, and
he had the same like he had the same type
of symptoms when he went down and got a concussion,
looked like he got knocked out, like by a puncher
in a boxing match. Like, same type of way to
a look when he got knocked out. So I thought
it was interesting that, Okay, you bring in to play

(46:30):
getting a message from him. You read the message and
you're talking about, you know what. His decision was based
off of how he felt about the quality of his
health moving on in his life, and that seems to
be the overarching theme, which again probably should be the

(46:51):
overarching theme, is to think about your long term health
when you see you know.

Speaker 7 (46:59):
To your point, though, like I find it interesting, like
when we see someone smoking a cigarette, how many times
we walk up to them and go, hey, keep doing that,
you're probably gonna get lung cats. Yeah, when hey, hey, buddy,
you should probably put the bottle down. That's not gonna
be good for your liver, right like it, How often
do we ever, like impart ourselves on other people's lives

(47:20):
with their unhealthy habits or poor decisions.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
It's got to be really bad for you to get
cut off at a bar, like for someone to say
you've had enough, Like it's got.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
To get really really bad at that point. And and
I'm not doing it for your long term health. They're
doing it.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Probably their own.

Speaker 6 (47:37):
Yeah, they don't want to get you, You get what
I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (47:40):
Like people were smoking cigarettes and all that, it's like, oh, no,
one walks up to them and says that you really
should quit, you really should stop thinking about that. And
it's like it only comes to like sports where all
of a sudden everyone comes out and they're, oh, I have.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
An opinion on it.

Speaker 7 (47:53):
It's like, no, you could just go back to what
you were doing before and then let the experts, let
the football people, let to his family, the doctors around him,
let them make a decision for him.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
It's his life.

Speaker 6 (48:04):
And I think the problem of the point that I
guess I'm making right now is I think again, I
know I said the NFL needed to how are they
going to handle this, because they indeed have to have
a hand in this. I do not think that they
can stay out of out of the decision making process

(48:25):
or outside of what it is that the Dolphins are
going to do. Because of the optics of how important
it is the way they handle this scenario based upon
the stigmas and the judgments of what CTE has created
and concussions has created in terms of the narrative.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
Of the game of football.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
So to me, I think this is just as much
the NFL being a part of the conversations with the
Dolphins in terms of, Hey, how are we handling this,
let's take let's do I are so we have some
more time to try to figure out how exactly we
go about handling this. This is too specific of a large,

(49:11):
a large conversation and problem that was was super super
prevalent for a moment in time for football. For the NFL,
they had to combat concussions.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
On a standalone stage. Again like the Thursday night he
suffered the one against Cincinnati. This was the Thursday night game.
So you got a lot of people who you know,
and it's not mixed like listen the first year he
suffered those concussions. Kenny Pickett got two concussions that year too,
Like multiple concussions. It's how it looks with too ch
I know, but it's the look of it. It was

(49:46):
also when Kenny Pickett's happened. It was like in the
midst of like a bunch of games in the early
window on a Sunday, and so it didn't get the
attention or the coverage.

Speaker 6 (49:54):
But he dealt with that too, too. Was the only
one that got talked about because of the way it looks.
I'm telling you, it's it's it's a horror story for I.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
Think, well, we all understand what you're saying.

Speaker 7 (50:08):
Just at the end of the day, I mean, four
weeks we'll go by, he'll probably choose to come back
and play, and then we'll.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Move on like that. That's what we do. Like that's
the reality of all this.

Speaker 7 (50:19):
And and look, I'm not trying to make a case
for against CT or anything like that, and not an expert.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
I just feel like there was still a lot that's that's.

Speaker 7 (50:27):
Kind of unknown in regards to our brain, how it works,
what impacts it, and and the direct correlation with with
football and all that. There's a lot of sports that
you know, you if you really do the research and
really look at it, you can attribute to you know,
women's soccer at the high school level, a lot of concussions,
a lot of head injuries, you know, headers things of
that nature.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
It's the highest. It was the highest women's soccer.

Speaker 7 (50:50):
So like, are we just going to start taking away
every single sport because there's this thought that what it
causes CT well, we don't really know. And I think
that's most likely where this is all going to end.
And if we're being real, if a doctor clears him
and he can go back to play, there's a lot

(51:11):
of money that's going to be left on the table
if he chooses not to. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Tuo has made enough money to be able to take
care of himself the rest of his life. It's his
own decision. But you'd be crazy not to think that
he's come about twenty million Coren't twenty million be left
on the table?

Speaker 6 (51:29):
I just think it's the coverage we can talk about.
Do you other sports and we can talk about where.

Speaker 7 (51:35):
Don't you think this is smart to put him on
eye R because then you have to go away, Yes
you have to, but but the moment he comes back,
it's going to come back.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
The conversation are going to come.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Back, especially the criticism the Dolphins got over the handling,
whether it was an independent neurologist or whatever. Why was
he back out there. You knew he has suffered a concussion.
Why was he back out there on a short week?

Speaker 8 (51:55):
No?

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Last Yeah there.

Speaker 6 (51:59):
I don't think it turns into like what it turned
into when that movie came out.

Speaker 7 (52:03):
But I've got it. Yeah an idea. By the way,
I think we need more inside information. I've got an idea.
I think we I think we send in Lee, We
send in lead to Lap. We have him somehow, we
get him to be a character. Maybe it's a little
early for Halloween. Obviously we're sold in September. But maybe
we have him dress up and he becomes one of

(52:26):
the four known experts or neurologists in this field. We
have Lee spend the next three four weeks in South
Florida helping us get a better understanding of what's happening
with Tuam.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
He has the biggest smile on his face, grabbing the microphone.
Let's hear the intellect and the IQ of one lead
to Lap come out talking about the place you.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Could stay and let me tell you why you shouldn't
scoff at that based on some of the opinions that
are thrown out, But he's Lee's has got as good
a credentials as anybody.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
How you feel about this, Lee, I feel very confident.
I have a lot.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Of experience with head trauma.

Speaker 7 (53:07):
Is that mostly induced? Mostly induced by your ex girlfriends?

Speaker 5 (53:14):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (53:14):
That is partly so, yes, more recently than you imagine.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Lee walks into the Lee walks into the building with
a briefcase and they're like, weren't you just at the
Clevelander last night?

Speaker 4 (53:24):
Listen to a different guy? Hey, Lee, we got to
cut your hair though to a normal haircut.

Speaker 6 (53:28):
You have a bullet.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
You're walking around as a.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Neurologist, right, somebody's got a rocket, man.

Speaker 7 (53:35):
No one has to you're you're you're too old for that.
And the other thing is, if you're really going to
go through with this, we need you to look the
part and to be acting the part.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
And I think you're capable of it. I seed you
to commit to it. I could do that. I think
the bullet has come to an end. By the way,
thank you.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
I don't know, man, I think you for rocket hit
on with that.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
Ken.

Speaker 7 (53:57):
You have to be like Australian or something. You know,
you have to one of those like cool neurologists who's
like I mate, yeah, no, I'm a neurologist. Right, yeah,
but uh I, I also say, and uh I once
you know, I didn't go it my baby, that sort
of thing.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
Tang.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Yeah, the guys in Pittsburgh don't look like that. They
don't have bullets. The guys in Pittsburgh yougo see for
the Oh yeah, they don't know. They don't know mullets.
I was also thinking about this when it comes to
the to a discussion, like, I wonder how much of
the hesitancy from the Dolphins to pay him was about

(54:30):
this stuff, because I don't think you can argue that
he wasn't deserving of a contract based on his play,
like he's been great under Mike McDaniel. I wonder if
the delay was Miami's concern over stuff like this and
not even just the concussions he's had injuries throughout the
course of his career, even going back all the way
to college. I wonder how much of that was about

(54:53):
all Right, we like the play, we don't like the
fact that there's been some problems both concussion wise and
health wise elsewhere on the body. And maybe that's why
they were a little bit wary of.

Speaker 6 (55:05):
Maybe wanting to give him the deal that he got
and I don't know if that's really I don't know,
but your injuries, if you have an injury history, that's
always going to play a part. And if a team
wants to sign you to a big deal or a
long term extension or whatever it may be.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Yeah, that's why it was injury only guarantees. Injury only
there you go, because.

Speaker 7 (55:24):
Then it allows them the power to be able to
have a doctor say nope, I think you can go
back in and play, you know, I mean, that's that's
the reality of it.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Jeez.

Speaker 6 (55:33):
So but a factor which he may get a doctor
that says he can't, which means that he's going to
get injury money.

Speaker 7 (55:41):
They would probably settle though in that case, like I don't.
I think if they had conflicting opinions, they would most likely,
you know, have to settle somewhere.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
If if he chose not to play.

Speaker 7 (55:52):
Anymore, because because that's really what's a stake. If he
chooses to come back and play, then it nothing. It's
the same deal.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Yeah, I would be shocked if he doesn't come back
and play. He's coming back. He's coming back.

Speaker 7 (56:05):
Yeah, he's a warrior man like that. That's the one
thing I'd say about all.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
His career, okay, but he's a warrior. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (56:16):
I mean, do you remember when he had the hip injury,
Like he came back too soon with a tightrope surgery
to play Burrow, Like he literally was limping around in
that game. And I remember talking to Tom Rinaldi about
this at the time because I believe he might have
been actually working on that game, but he said he'd

(56:37):
suffered a concussion as well. That's what a lot of
people don't understand, is that injury. Well, you know, everyone
focused on the hip injury, you know, because he was
coming back from the.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
Tightrope, wasn't moving very well.

Speaker 7 (56:49):
He suffers the hip injury, They're like, no, no, no, remember
there's blood on his nose everything else. He had a
concussion in that play too, so there was I mean,
he's been through a lot throughout the course of his career,
dating back to Alabama, and he always comes back.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Man.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
He is a warrior. No one can dispute that.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Yeah, he's a hell of a player.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Saint Louis High, you know, representing our friends listening on
Fox Sports at nine ninety right now, you know, a drop,
I just you know, letting him.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
Know what time is it back on Halloween?

Speaker 2 (57:19):
I think is it two hours behind now or the
one nineteenth five?

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Isn't it maybe five hour flight? Two hours?

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Maybe?

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Yeah, three, I don't know, twelve nights night or something.
Whatever it is, you are represented on this show. That's
for sure.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
That's what I'm
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