September 6, 2021 • 39 mins
Brian Noe and Geoff Schwartz are in for Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, and LaVar Arrington and discuss Brian Kelly's joke after Notre Dame's win over Florida State. Is Notre Dame a playoff contender? Just how good is Jack Coan? Brian and Geoff discuss. Plus, the one team whose expectations are overblown year after year, and the biggest wildcard in the NFL and in college football.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everybody's Brian No. My tag team partner today is Jeff
Schwartz on OutKick the Coverage. We had a lot of fun. Man,
We're talking ball left and right, Irish with a big win.
Brian Kelly with one of the worst jobs quoting another
coach that you will ever ever here. But it's very,
very funny. Also we get to the NFL, looking forward
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to the Cowboys and Tampa. We have a lot of fun.
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you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Yes, Welcome into the
OutKick the Coverage studios. I'll tell you what you're gonna
deal with. A giddy no over here, Jeff sh Worts.
Because I am originally from South Bend, Indiana, I almost
texted you last night because we always before we fill in,
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it's like, hey, we are we leading with what are
you thinking? And I almost texted you Hopefully we'll start
off talking about a Sterling Irish victory. And here we are,
here we are talking about the Irish. How you doing
this morning, Jeff Schwartz, I'm doing better than Brian Kelly's
joke after the game. We're I mean, when when you
have to when you have to do research on a
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joke that was set in the nineteen seventies by by
John McKay, I'm probably not sure that's the one you
want to roll with after a week one performance where
you're right, Notre Dame did win the game. They were
up big, but Florida State made a made a made
a come back, and look, you're abut of college football. Um,
it's very easy to score points, mostly right, unless you're
cleansing to Georgia. I mean, it's scoring points happened so
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fast in this game that you can never never think
you have enough and you can never think that you've
done enough to just win a game, because any point
teams just score will in college football. What's what makes
it fun? Right? You mean? You have you have epic comebacks.
You know, Mississippi State down twenty and uh in the
fourth quarter comes back and wins. You know, Florida State
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was down eighteen and third quarter makes it a game.
It's just kind of just what CULTU football is and
that's I think why we like it. And we saw
last night that Florida State was able to to um dude,
I was impressed with no names offense. I didn't think
Jack Cohen, uh, I's gonna throw for three n yards? Yeah,
and four touchdowns on top of that, And you're right.
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Notre Dame had a thirty eight to twenty lead and
it looked like Florida State was dead and they put
together a drive US long touchdown drive and they barely scored.
They had a couple of penalties on the drive. Didn't
look like it was gonna work out, and they slowly
just chipped away, chipped away, and it became this crazy game.
Not the greatest execution, and we'll get to Brian Kelly's
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thoughts on execution here, but lots of drama and Florida
State quarterback Mackenzie Milton became the story. And this was
like straight out of the Disney playbook. But this guy
suffered this hideous knee injury three years ago when he
was at u CF. We're talking nerve damage, artery damage,
doctors thought he wouldn't be able to walk again without
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experiencing severe pain. And just like Alex Smith did last
year for the Washington football team, you had Mackenzie Milton
fight his way back and it was crazy, Jeff. You
had the starting quarterback get his helmet knocked off, so
he has to come out of the game for a play.
Milton comes in, completes a pass and Mike Northfeld, the
head coaches like screw it, let's ride the hot head.
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That kept Milton in there, and he played well, forced
the game into overtime. Notre Dame just had a little
bit too much. But for that guy to go through
all that rehab fight his way back on the field,
that's literally, it sounds so cheesy. That's literally the stuff
movies are made out of. It was great to see
that from him. It's pretty incredible what modern medicine you
can you can do for people right now. Obviously, the
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will of Milton to rehab and Alex Smith and in
his counts there's uh is incredible. I mean, I've I've
been hurt many times in my career. Um rehab is exhausting,
not not even just physically exhausting, just mentally having to
continue to try to bring your a game every day
because you know, gains happen. Um, it happened very small.
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It doesn't feel like much is happening a lot of
times in rehab and it's just mentally exhausting and so um,
you know, just to overcome that and even get in
a place where you can play in the football game
is impressive, and then let alone play well in the
football game is even more impressive. Right, So, um, that's
a great story. It's awesome when players are able to
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to overcome the odds to get back on the field
and then he played well. Right, it's not just it's
not just enough to to be on the field. Um,
I mean it is enough in his situation, but then
he played really well afterwards. So that was great to
see for him. And look for Mike Norvelle second year
at Florida State. You know, defensively they were question marks
heading in the season. I'm not sure anywhere answered last night. Up,
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we know he can he can drop an offense. His
offenses were great at Memphis and it was gonna see
the offense play well last night, so you know they
have a chance. They'll have a chance in a lot
of games this year because of that. Yeah, and you
get all the second guessing. You know, you got into
overtime and it sounds crazy, but um, there was. It
looked to be a fumble, right, um. And so the
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Florida State was kicking a fifty yard field goal. They
had the possession at first in overtime, so they're dead even, right,
and so Florida State goes on, all right, let's kick
a fifty yard or they they called time out right
before the kick to review the play. So the Florida
State kicker boots it in from fifty yards and that
was a free kick. They whistled it dead and all that,
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so they review the play. It turns out it's an
incomplete pass. So Florida State gets a lot closer. They
get thirteen yards closer. The kicker misses it. So I'm
sure some people are second guessing. Mike Dornveeld, that was
the right call. That was the right call to challenge it.
If you want to second guess something. Second guest midway
through the third quarter when go for it on fourth
and two at their own thirty three, don't get it.
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Notre Dame scores a touchdown and starts to build their lead.
That earlier play is something your second guest. I don't
second guess him challenging an incomplete pass and getting a
lot closer for a more makeable field goal. It's it's
just crazy how it worked out. But he shouldn't get
criticized for that. No, he shouldn't um and look at
the fourth down thing is pretty interesting because you know
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a lot of teams are just are just going for it.
I mean like that, there's not there's really sometimes doesn't
feel like a rhyme a reason, you know, fourth and
two at the thirty. I was watching a bunch of
games this weekend where you know, like, all right, well
let's just do it. I mean, you know because again,
like I just I think scoring is so easy for
the most part, all right, obviously outside of of again
the one game this weekend, really two games, right, I
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mean Wisconsin Penn State and and Clemson Georgia. It's just
if you if you miss on on fourth and and two,
guess what, you have a fourth and two again four
minutes later, right like it, it just seems like it's
worth it to go for it and and be aggressive
and continue to push your team forward, and in that
case it did. It didn't work obviously, but I'm not
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sure that was the difference in the game. I mean
it was it went overtime. Here's the thing about it though,
and you know this as a as a football fan,
overtime tends to tends to to help the favorite, right.
If the underdog is has made it that far overtime,
it's just hard to continue to keep that going, right.
I think underdogs would much rather prefer to win in
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regulation that win overtime, because then we're then over time
it's more controlled, right. Everyone starts in the same at
the same spot. Um, you know, you kind of are
in the same stue, and then that favors the better team. Yeah. Yeah,
typically that's the way it works out. I'm Brian, though,
he's Jeff Schwartz here on OutKick the coverage on Fox
Sports Radio. Now we've been teasing this thing. We gotta
get to it with with Fry and Kelly. The joke
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that just fell flat. This is the Notre Dame head
coach trying to quote John McKay, the old Tampa Bay
Bucketeers coach from the mid seventies. This was Brian Kelly
after the game, I'm in favor of execution. Maybe maybe
our entire team needs to be executed after tonight. Okay,
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all right? So that the greatest quoting right there by
Brian Kelly. And this was the explanation when he was
asked about it by reporters following the game. Why it
was taken serious? Are you people crazy? Everyone's like, oh,
it's a John McKay quote that he used after a game.
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I was stealing one of his old quotes and being funny.
I guess nobody likes to be funny anymore. So yeah,
if you want to, you know, take me to town
on that, please do. Okay, So the quote he was
trying to go with. McKay was asked about his team's
execution and he replied, I'm in favor of it, which
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is hilarious. Somehow that turned in to maybe our entire
team needs to be executed after tonight. So he's screwed
it up. Not the end of the world. But for
him to be like, it's a John McKay quote, it's like,
b K, if you got the quote right, it's not
a big deal. You screwed it up royally, that's all. Also,
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you know, we know this that the best comedians always
have to explain their junks. Everyone. That's that's always it's
always how they work. I mean, you know the best
of them when I'm listening to them, like, can you
explain that to me? Please? Yeah, if you explain a joke, Brian,
any funny? So um, I mean he's not gonna know
what to be in trouble for this, um, but definitely
basically not not the way to go. Um. After you
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win a game like that, after watching that, do you think?
What do you think of Notre Dame? Are they a
playoff contender? Could they make noise if they get there?
Where you at with the Irish? So? I mean yes
and no, right, I mean they can make the playoff,
but that no one's Here's the thing. There are such
a wide gap right now between Alabama is doing and
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everyone else is doing. And it's and I used to
hate it. I used to be like, you know, what's
screw the SEC, screw Alabama. Um, And I've really come
to appreciate it because it is what Nick Saban is
doing in Alabama is really hard to do. I understand
that people will say they get all the five stars
and you're You're right, they do. They recruit their butts off,
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but for me, it's more about the coaching turnover and
they continue drive for success. Right. We know that that
it's hard to win in sports. Okay, if you look
at just look at l s U. I mean two
years ago they couldn't be beaten and last and they
went Saturday. I got pushed around by the powdered blue
of the Bruins, and I'm very happy for that. We
can get it at some point, um, but you know,
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look at all the look at Florida State with the
you know the one year they won with Jimbo or Alburn,
you know, with with with Camping. There's a lot of
teams that have kind of had this this one hit wonder. Right,
Alabama has definitely not been a one hit wonder under Saban.
So the motive they to keep continuing to win. When
you stack up, even even the players that are there,
they continue to win a stack opp charity. It's very
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hard to continue to be motivated at that level, and
so it's very impressive to seem continuing to play well
and execute a high level. They also turn over offensive
coordinates like every season, right, it's now Bill Brian turned
to run. It's you know, they've turned over defensive coordinators
and to continue to play at this high level. And
part of it is is that you know a guy
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like Bryce Young, the quarterback, who has sat for a
year and he's waited his turn. He wasn't he wasn't
a championship two, right, So they continue to be motivated
to play really well, and dude, they can. And I
thought they would smoke Miami was one of my favorite
bets of the week. They came out and smoked my
and Miami's not bad. I don't know how good they are,
but it looked like it looked like a man among boys.
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Man they smoked Miami, And um, you loot, Georgia Clemson
play who you don't score enough points against Alabama? I
don't care how good your defensive line is. Alabama's offensive
line is the best in the country right now. Continue
to be the best in the country. The first pick overall,
first offensive lineman drafted will be on their team, their
left tackle like they there. It's it's I've gone point
where I'm so supremely impressed by their ability to continue
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to dominate teams. One of my my favorite moments of
the weekend was Miami there down twenty seven to nothing
against Alabama. They get a turnover, so they bust out
the turnover chain and it's blamed out even more. It's beautiful.
And then the play was reviewed and then it was
Alabama that recovered the fumble, and it's like, oh gosh,
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into the box, goes to turnover chain and it's it
was a double whammy. You're celebrating down twenty seven nothing
and then it got overturned and you're celebrating for nothing.
It was hilarious. But yeah, we will get to that momentarily.
The Grand Canyon size divide between Alabama and everybody else.
It was one of the quotes of the weekend. You're
either elite or you're not. We'll talk about who said
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it and how it does apply to the college football landscape.
I'm Brian No. He's Jeff Schwartz. This is Outkicked the
Coverage on Fox Sports Radio. This this is Outkicked the Coverage.
Brian No, He's Jeff Schwartz. Welcome back to the OutKick
the Coverage studios here on Fox Sports Radio. You know,
our guy Roberto is with us this morning. Jeff I
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don't know if you wanted to, you know, wish him
a happy Monday and remind him that your Giants beat
his Dodgers last night. I don't know if you want
to do anything like that. Giants have secured winning record
this season against the Dodgers, So now a tiebreaker between those,
you know, the tiebreaker between those two teams, if they
come down the stretch in our time, I think it
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might actually come down to it. I think it might
come down to that's very important considering obviously what's happening
in the NL West. Um, the Giants won a bullpen
game last night, which was infuriating as a fan to
see them used five relievers in three innings, but they
settled down, they won the game. Obviously, It's never a
Giants game unless it's close at the end, and they
made it close. And um, look, I I still waiting
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for this to be over because I don't know how
the Giants. I mean, their pitching staff right now is
just a wreck. Like they don't have an ace. Gossman
has not been terribly good after the break. Um, I
don't even know. If they had a one game who
they throw. I think they would throw a Logan Web
and the would have to be he's been their best
pat like Logan Web. But yes, is there. I mean, like,
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this's the thing about about why I think it's important
for the Giants to obviously win the West and not
playing the play. The Dodgers are set up well to
playing a playing game, right, they have pick a picture
that would I mean obviously sure it would be the
would be the best bet. I mean even be well, yeah,
that's also true. But you know David is not making
any of those roster decisions. Someone upstairs, it's called them,
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and then you end up having nine guys that can
hit a home running any time. I mean, we so,
I I just it's incredible. I keep waiting for the
Giants to screw this up and just have it, and
they're I mean they're rotating. Darren ruff Is batting leadoff
half the time. Now, I mean, it's incredible that even
the Giants ends are saying, I don't even believe this,
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you know, no, totally fans of a team were like,
I knew it. I knew it the whole time. But yeah,
I still wait for them to not fall apart, but
at least dip to second place. They won't do it,
and I have a n L West ticket for the Giants.
I do every year at at plus. Um it's a
five dollar wage, but five dollars for the Giants to
win the n L West and plus, so I make
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a little bit of coin if we, uh, if we
end up doing it. So I I'm look, we'll see
how it goes. Obviously, down the stretch got Colorado, we
have a lot of Padres games left. How about you, uh,
how about your hedge and bet on the Dodgers. What
do you think about that? Jeff, It's five dollars my
my unfortunately my salary in my previous careers on the internet.
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So I'm hopeful that you can understand. I would I
can afford the five dollars here. Um, but yeah, no,
I'm gonna I'm I'm fine. Um, maybe you can hedge
at some point later in the year down the stretch,
but we have a lot of games. It's to Padre
and those games typically are like three to two, So
M fifty five hundred, good lord, Like, that's amazing. It's
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I'm only gonna win two fifty because I've got five dollars.
But um, it would be if i'd bet a hundred
dollars to be even better. But I just putting a
hundred dollars with the Giants were supposed to win seventy
five games this year. That's amazing. Now. Kirby Smart is
the head coach at Georgia, and he said after Georgia
beat Clemson, you're either elite or you're not. What a
quote right there. I love that. The only problem is,
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like you mentioned earlier in the show, Georgia had no
offense whatsoever. So I love their defense. They were flying
around seven sacks on the night to pick six by
Christopher Smith, the safety. It was a defensive gem just
the chef's kished. It was beautiful, but no offense whatsoever.
You gotta score points to take down Bama. I will
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say that. Um I am prize how much Georgia's talking
after this game? Right? One of their running backs put
on Instagram a post of like we don't play with
kids around here, and I thought, and so I was like, okay,
oh wow, dead was a Tunor yard rusher in this game?
You had seventy four yards to the ground, Like what
do you what are we doing? Guys? You want to
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game ten to three? It wasn't like you blew them out.
I mean, good yet Georgia hasn't had wins like this
in a while, So good for Georgia and their defense.
Their defense should be the ones talking. They played outstanding, right,
They arrass d jail game, end up with eight sacks
and obviously a bunch of pressures as well. Um, but Georgia, man,
they are they are talking like they're gonna went through
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with a championship this year. And look, I mean you
haven't obviously a chance to run through an SEC schedule
and make it happen. But offensively you have to be better, right,
I mean you're not. You're not beating Alabama with ten points. Yeah,
it was the fewest points scored by a dab of
Sweeney coached Clemson team. So that you said it perfectly.
If anyone should talk, it should be the defensive players,
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not a running back. That's if I want to play
with kids, I'll have some on my own or something
to that effect. And it's like, you guys scored three
points offensively the same as Clemson. Like. The difference was
the pick six that swung it there, and and that
was a really good job about Georgie's defense and the
pick six and kind of baited with pressure. So a
lot of times when when you when there's pressure from
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one side, the idea for the quarterback as you throw
behind the pressure right because the defensive might be late rotating.
So if there were two guys coming from from DJ's
right side, and so he just stared down the inside
wide receiver and that defensive back was sitting right there
and boom picked it off and back to the house. So, um,
look it's a big win for Georgia. Um and look,
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there's a lot of of overall big pictures and we
can maybe get to to my conference out west. But
the a c C man who I comes in right,
comes and lost. North Carolina is supposed to be a
playoff contender. They didn't look like it. Florida State now
a very close game, lost as well, uh to Miami game.
Miami got blown out. You know, we talk a lot
about and people. Rightfully, the patrol deserves some of it.
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But um, and we didn't play very well this weekend.
But the a CEC is not looking strong. If Clemson
is not going to be your your top dog. And
I still think that Clemson will be good, but they
just ran to a tough defense. Yeah, and let me
just say real fast, I don't know what it is.
A lot of quarterbacks get the benefit of the doubt
when they throw a pick on a slant route, and
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I don't know why that's the case. I don't think
anyone gave DJ the benefit of the doubt. It was
it was you stare down. Yeah, that was a great
play by Christopher Smith. But I mean that's on DJ.
I just go back to I flashed back to. Yeah,
I go back to the Super Bowl when Marshawn Lynch
is right there Seahawks on the one and they go
with the pass play which was a bad cough granted,
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but it's a great play, great play by Balcoot Butler.
It was all Daryl Bevil. That's a hideous decision by
Russell Wilson. Never got any heat. Okay, let's go back
for a second. Is this of the topic of mine
I love talking about I wrote about this and you
could find it. Jeff Schwartz, just Jeff Schwartz, eSPI Nation
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where it was two. No it's not, but you should
you should be You can go find telling you I
wrote I wrote about because this is like it's mind
numbing how people talk about this. Okay, seat don't have
to throw the ball right. They were out leverage up front,
they would have been tackled for a loss. They have
enough blockers, Okay, I don't care. Problem. The problem was
they chose like the popular route concept that year that
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everyone was doing, which that pick play right, and so
it wasn't even that Russell Wilson should have thrown the ball.
That was just a bad play call right. That was
where the ball is supposed to go. It was executed
a little poorly, and then threw the ball to where
everyone knew was going on that play. There were other options.
They should just go a different past concept. Um, I'm
not sure. Again, Wilson's that's where the ball is supposed
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to go. So he was executing the players designed. I
just would have done something that wasn't popular that year,
Like everyone knew that season and really somequent seasons that
in that formation to place coming. And so Malcolm Muller
did a great job. Russell Wilson, I mean, I guess
we're every one else was open. That's where the ball
is supposed to go. And I think he saying Butler
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did a great job. I just I love talking about
this because I go the other way. I have no
problem with it there being a pass called. But like
in that situation, if your guy has covered, you don't
throw it Russell Wilson, you use your legs, you extend
the play trying to do something covered. Though, that's a
point like last night, no see like okay, like last like,
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would you would you say that Georgia defensive back was
all over the Clemson Uh not the same way he
baited DJ He was a lot more and Butler, and
Butler baited Wilson, Like I think that when when Wilson
threw the ball, Butler was still behind right, he came
through the wide receiver and there's look, there's we could
we could debate. I mean, I think Paul Archinson should
have done a better job of kind of playing to
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the ball right And there's a lot of things that
could have been different UM on that play. UM. But yeah, quarterbacks,
especially if we like them, we'll get the benefit of
the doubts. I'm not saying that they don't. UM. And
Wilson's one of those guys, right, Wilson is not very
good sometimes in the pocket. UM as far as his
pocket presence and what he does, but he gets kind
of a pass from that um And you know, this
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is an interesting year first for Seattle. They have a
very tough division and with the Rams now being much improved,
so there's a lot uh you know that that that
that division will be fun to watch. You know, Jeff,
there's one team I want to stop hearing about in
college football. That would be the Oklahoma Sooners because this
number two team in the country and this year a
lot like other years, look out for Oklahoma. Their defense
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is legit. This year they barely survived at home against
two lane forty to thirty five, and two Lane on
fourth and thirteen almost picked up the first down. Quarterback
ran for about twelve and a half yards and was
a little bit short. If he picked up that first down,
we might be talking about Oklahoma losing that game. I
don't want to hear anything more about the fool's gold Sooners.
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This is not an overreaction after Week one. This is
more of the same. They're trumpeted. Oh, they might take
down Bama. They might get blown out by three touchdowns
instead of five this year. That's it. They're not close
to beating Alabama. Stopping no, they're they're not. Um, and look,
defensively they continue to have just you know, not not
the personnel or not you know not. I only it's
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a coaching problem. It's kind of a personnel issue. Um,
they just don't they just don't have those guys. And
it's it's hard to close out games sometimes, but it's
very clear that shut it down and they were a
huge in that game, right and they just mentally kind
of shut it down, and it is it's hard to
kind of get it back going once you have have
kind of shut things down. So um, it's uh, it's
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difficult in that situation. But yes, they're defensively did they
have no chance and they continue to have no chance. Um,
look we we we want parody in sports, and they're
just not in college football right now. I can still
be a fun season. I know my organ Ducks had
a struggle to go to Ohio State. I'm looking forward
to watching that game on Saturday. But you know, but realistically,
we're not winning a championship this year. It's just is
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what it is. And and we kind of a point
in college football that I think is not is not
that great, which is this is the only success for
your team can be a playoff appearance. But I think
it's is bs right. Not every team is good enough
to make a playoff. Not every team is good have
to even win a conference. We have to be we
have to be um realistic with expectations for our favorite teams.
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And yes, Oklahoma is hopeful that they can make a playoff.
But again, guys, what have you shown so far that
has you think and you can have you can play defense,
and there's nothing that has been done under Lenken Riley
where you say, hey, that defense is good enough to
help us win a championship. So yes, maybe you've been
playoff team. Maybe not. Iowa State's really good and you're
you know, they struggled this past weekend. They have Iowa
this week, so we'll see how they do. Um. You know,
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obviously Texas look pretty good, I thought for Stark's debut. Um,
but yeah, you you might win the the the conference,
but you're not good enough to win a cham It's
just okay, And that's okay. It's okay to be that.
It's that's perfectly fine, right, And I think that we've
got a point where it's like playoff championship bust or
bus like that those are the only options. It's tough
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because I hear you, but it goes against everything that
we've known, right, It's we've been no moral victories. Second
place is the first loser. It's different in college football
than March Madness. It's celebrated where you get to the
final four in March Madness way more than in college football.
And if you go there in like Ohio State they
got crushed by Alabama, it's hard to walk away from
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the championship game, like, man, we still had a successful season.
It's like you got your teeth kicked. I mean, but
I think, okay, not every situation is is the same.
Right if you're a Higer state in that spot, if
you're in the title game, I think you would expect,
especially if you're Ohio State who's won championships, you expect
to win that game, right. I mean that's a little
different than Oklahoma was yet to win a playoff game.
I mean, like what I and you know, we we
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see Okay, you know you struggle on defense Week one,
struggle on defense again. I mean, yes, you can be better.
Season goes on. I get that, but how inspiring is
that defense to you know? Like it just it doesn't
feel like you don't feel inspiring, Like you can't feel
any any different than than we do right now about
them after week one? Now, am I wrong about this?
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Or is this some Notre Dame homerism? I feel like
Notre Dame gets the bad rap if they get blown
out in a playoff game, It's like, oh my gosh,
here we go again. Why is Notre Dame in this thing?
We knew what was gonna happen. Oklahoma has gotten dusted
numerous times. I don't feel like their reputation is as bad. No,
And I'm with you there, like I have. I have,
especially last year, argue like who who's better than the
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Notre Dame to play Alabama? Tell me, tell me who
was better? Like who would have put? Who would have
had a better game? And you know we we said,
oh no, I'm should have been in all right, give
me the alternative, give me the who who was a
better option to play Alabama? Last year? The answer is
always I don't have it known as an answer. I'm
with you they, but I think they've also just kind
of stunk in all these games for a long time
now until people are over you know what, in. Here's
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the thing about I really it's interesting. So you know,
people are over kind of the same teams playing in
college football, and look at the twelve team playot if,
I guess will help that, but we'll have the same champion.
But there is such a disparity right now in college football.
A telf team playoff doesn't fix any of that, right,
And it just adds more teams into a playoff, but
doesn't make Alabama worse, or clums in the worse, Ohio
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State worse, or even Oklahoma worse. It just adds more
teams to mix. I mean Cincinnati, Okay, yes, they had
a great season last year. They would lose by thirty
five to Alabama, Like it would even be close if
Alabama's playing to the full potential. I get everyone wants
to see that game and get give the little dog
a chance because in two thousand eight, Utah beat Alabama.
I mean, yeah, okay, Utah. How Alex Smith at quarterback? Right?
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Like they didn wanna pick overall, they weren't to Eric
Weddle at safety like that. They had some NFL talent
on that team, right, Um. I it's just it's silly
that that people I guess believe it will be different
than it has been for a long time. And maybe
I'm just because I'm just a I'm not an optimist
all the time. They realist like it just is, that's
what comfortable is right now, And I get why it
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cannot be fun for people to always think about the
same three teams winning it. But I'm an organ fan,
like I hope we get there. I'm hopeful that we
get there at some point. I don't look at it
as oh my god, I'm not gonna enjoy Ogan football
this year because Alabama is really good. I'm gonna enjoy
Oorgan football. And I hope at some point we can
build to be good enough to to take to take
down Alabama, no doubt. I hear you. I hear what
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you're saying. It's just funny where anything that you heard
throughout this entire weekend apply to some teams that got
out of the gate slowly. Where it's week one, it's
not easy to hit the ground running. If you're Clemson
and you're playing a tough opponent, you know it's it's
not the easiest thing. And then you look at Bama, right,
and then you look at Bama. Everything traces back to
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Bama Oklahoma. They stumbled a little bit, but it's early.
Don't write them off. And then there's Bama winning fort thirteen.
Anything you said to try to give a little grace
to one of these other teams, it just it doesn't
apply Tobama. They're a machine. They're a juggernaut over there.
And I give them credit because it's so difficult to
live up to those expectations. It's championship or bust every
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single year, and sometimes that could be suffocating. It doesn't
even bother them. It's like they're impervious the feeling the
pressure of my expectations. I think again, I go back
to what I said early on. When you have players
that are waiting their turn to beat, to be that
guy right by song, for example, then I think that
it is um you are. You're so motivated to get
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your own championship, right um. And you come in and
you're like, I want to be the first pick overall,
I don't want a championship, and so you wait your
turn for that moment. When you get that moment, you're
ready to go. And that's what I tell you about motivation,
right is that it's it's impressive to Alabama, especially at
the top, right, saving the coaching staff, did you have
the motivate? But but I'll tell you again the turnover
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at coordinator and position coaches like Bill O'Brien right now,
who's the who's the o c He has a reputation
or rebuild, right, Stark had a reputation to rebuil old,
and so they want to be the best version they
can be to become a head coach. Again, it worked
for Stark, right, he came out and he was he
was Texas and Texas again looked pretty good for their
first game. They played a wiry opponent. Right in Louisiana.
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Bill O'Brien wants to be head coach again, right, he
was good at Penn States. He was not actually think
it's the head coach. He wasn't bad in Houston's just
a terrible general manager. So he wants to become a
head coach and so he has motivation to show the
best he can bryce again, the quarterback has motivation to
be the best he can be, to win a championship
and be drafted number one overall. Anyone else who comes in,
you know, a new running back, new wide receiver, new
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a new offensive line, a new linebackers, all the same motivation.
I want to get my own championship, and I want
to be drafting the NFL. And when you continue to
have those those that mindset, you're gonna continue to be good.
There's no You're not stagnant because of of of past
performances because those guys are gone. They're all gone. Now
it's your turn as a young player to win that championship. Okay,
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we got a lot to do this morning, Jeff. I
where as I look at my notes, the pack twelve
is in my notes, you know, I mean, I don't
even know what the notes could be that I mean
how I mean U c A, I guess is the
only note the only positive. Britain Brian Filly is probably
pumped his Bruins to the Tigers. He is beyond pumped.
Pumped isn't even the word. I don't know what he's
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giddy over there. But coming up next it's the wild
card of the entire football season as it relates to
college and also the pros. We'll talk about it. I'm Brian,
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Coverage studios here on Fox Sports Radio. So it's the
wild card of the entire football season, Jeff, and that
is COVID. We've got Zack Martin, stud offensive lineman for
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the Dallas Cowboys. He is vaccinated, but he contracted COVID.
He's not gonna be cleared to play for at least
five days, so he's gonna miss the season opener. That's
a huge loss for the Cowboys. As they take on
Tampa and Tampa's number one ranked rush defense, and you
also have Lane Kiffin, he's gonna miss the game tonight
as old miss. Uh they're on the field against Louisville
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and uh. I just for vaccinated players, for unvaccinated players,
especially because the timeline is longer to get back, you
might be knocked out for two games if you test
positive late in the week. I think this is the
ultimate wild card for both college football and the NFL
to see how this shakes out and how teams are
affected by it. Yeah, I don't know if it's a
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wild card, if it's actually a thing that's that's happening, right,
Like it's gonna happen, and you know, you obviously hope
that uh, you know, for Zach Barney he gets back
in the five day time frame that or whatever it
is for vaccinent players. But yeah, it's gonna be it's
gonna be a huge problem, and you know, you you
hope that, um, it doesn't affect your team. And look,
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Zach martin Is is a future Hall of Famer. He's fabulous.
I mean, even Zeke said, like a lot of our
runs are around Zack martins Is. Definitely gonna hurt them. Um,
but it's gonna hurt teams with unvaccinated quarterbacks at a
far higher rate in my opinion, right, I mean Zack
Martin had to test positive to miss the game. If
you are a vaccinated player and you have a close contact, uh,
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you don't have to quarantine, right, And we know that
unvaccind players have a five day quarantine on you know,
like any time they're near a someone who has has
the positive. So, um, it's it's gonna be you know,
if you're the Colts, right, your quarterback Carson Wentz, your
defensive captain Darius Leonard both not a v accident. I
mean they're gonna miss time this year. It's that simple.
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And um, and again it's it's unpredictable when when that's
gonna be. And you're exactly right, it's gonna hurt a
team even worse than the Cowboys at some point. It's
not not good for the Cowboys, but they'll be okay
if Dak is able to play. Um, but it's gonna
hurt someone at courter position. It is gonna really be
detrimental to them. Yeah, I mean, like with the wild card,
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it's definitely happening. It already is. So that's not a
question of whether it does or doesn't happen, it's just when,
Like just think of I'm looking at the Viking schedule.
Week eight. They play the Cowboys on Sunday Night Football,
and so let's say Kirk Cousins plays great, it's a
win for the Vikings. They got all this momentum. And
then on Thursday, lead ing up to the game against
the Ravens, you've got Kirk Cousin contracting COVID and oh,
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by the way, he's out the next week against the Chargers.
It's like whoa, Like, it's just not normal where we
just saw this guy play on Sunday, he finished the game,
he was healthy, and then on Friday he contracts COVID
and he's gone for two weeks. If he's unvaccinated. That's
where I say it's a wild card. You just don't
know when it's gonna strike and how you're gonna be
affected by it. Correct, the unvaccinated players in the NFL,
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we're testing positive seven times more than vaccine players, right, so, um,
you know there there's ways to help them. And look
and we see the Tampa Bay right, Uh, they have
a fully vaccine team, right, They're committed to winning. And
I get it, it's people's choices of vaccine or not,
but but there is no denying that teams that are
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in the hunt, I think I have a higher vaccination
rate than those who are not. I mean, like Tampa
Bay understands. And look, there's there's players on the team
I know that were hesitant to take the vaccine, but
that decided to because it's better for their team, right,
It's better to help their team out. They want to
be a team player here, and it's you know, Timby
is all in. I mean, we talked about Bama this morning, right, mean,
Tim Bay feels like they're in the same boat, right,
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I mean, they're all in on on on winning a championship. Again,
you know, they're right there. And we mentioned Lane Kiffin,
head coach at Old Miss. He contracted COVID. He's vaccinated,
as the entire team is, talking players, coaches, staff members,
everybody's vaccinated. And so Lane Kiffin, he addressed this on
ESPN's College Game Day because there are people that are like, well, well,
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what's the point of getting vaccinated if you've got COVID.
Here's Lane Kiffin. The great thing is, you know, because
well you vaccine, well had we not been, you know,
we have a lot of close contact shut down and
not playing in this game, including our quarterback. Obviously I'm
near him all day long. Yeah, I just did them.
I mean, if we're just keeping this just with a
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football thing, it's the way the rules are set up.
Matt Corrall, who's a stud quarterback, he wouldn't be playing
tonight for Old Miss. So it's obviously an advantage. Although
it doesn't mean if you get vaccinated there's no chance
you contract COVID. I don't know why some people are
banging that drama, like, hey you contracted COVID? Why even
get vaccinated? For for many reasons, right, the rules are
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set up for a quicker return is one of the reasons.
It's it's simple, man. The people that argue that just
are going to argue anything. It's that simple. Like, they
don't they don't want to understand. They don't. It's there's
no point even arguing. I just I've done with that.
You're right. They just don't. They just don't want to.
They just don't want to. They don't want to be
right about it. Let me ask you this. If you're
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currently in the NFL and one of your big time
players isn't vaccinated and he contracts COVID and he's out
for two weeks, how are you how what are you thinking?
Because there's a lot like publicly here, Well, it's it's choice.
And if that's the scenario, what's going through your mind? Okay,
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so let's let's talk about the Vikings quickly. So let's
say cousins mrs two weeks, he's not about fit and
those two weeks of Vikings lose and that cost that
costs Mike Zimmer his job. And now new coach comes
in and the new coach doesn't like you right as
a player, which is the way it kind of always works.
Um and you know, and then you and then you're
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and then you're you know, you're out um of the
team and you get cut. I mean that that's you
know again, it's it's it's far fetched ish, but it
can happen. They'd be pretty piste. Yeah if that was
the case, right, Like, no, it's a domino effect, right,
I Mean it's harder to say that's exactly gonna happen,
but yeah, yeah, people will be pissed. Oh yeah, really,
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this could wreck someone season. It really could. Because we
talked about coaches losing the locker room, players can lose
the locker room also, And I really think that like
Mike Zimmer, for example, he understands this, like he understands
that that they have to they have to me because
of the play to keep his job. Yeah. Yeah, it's
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It's just it's gonna be fascinating to see how it
plays out. Because it's one thing for a player to
contract COVID in the preseason and it's like, wow, it's
his choice. It becomes real when it's week fifteen and
someone's out for two weeks in your playoff lives are
at steak. That's when it becomes real. And no SoundBite
is gonna be really really interesting. All Right, we're gonna
get to some gambling prop bets in the second hour. Also,
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you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Yes, Welcome into the
OutKick the Coverage studios. I'll tell you what you're gonna
deal with. A giddy no over here, Jeff sh Worts.
Because I am originally from South Bend, Indiana, I almost
texted you last night because we always before we fill in,
(01:06):
it's like, hey, we are we leading with what are
you thinking? And I almost texted you Hopefully we'll start
off talking about a Sterling Irish victory. And here we are,
here we are talking about the Irish. How you doing
this morning, Jeff Schwartz, I'm doing better than Brian Kelly's
joke after the game. We're I mean, when when you
have to when you have to do research on a
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joke that was set in the nineteen seventies by by
John McKay, I'm probably not sure that's the one you
want to roll with after a week one performance where
you're right, Notre Dame did win the game. They were
up big, but Florida State made a made a made
a come back, and look, you're abut of college football. Um,
it's very easy to score points, mostly right, unless you're
cleansing to Georgia. I mean, it's scoring points happened so
(01:49):
fast in this game that you can never never think
you have enough and you can never think that you've
done enough to just win a game, because any point
teams just score will in college football. What's what makes
it fun? Right? You mean? You have you have epic comebacks.
You know, Mississippi State down twenty and uh in the
fourth quarter comes back and wins. You know, Florida State
(02:09):
was down eighteen and third quarter makes it a game.
It's just kind of just what CULTU football is and
that's I think why we like it. And we saw
last night that Florida State was able to to um dude,
I was impressed with no names offense. I didn't think
Jack Cohen, uh, I's gonna throw for three n yards? Yeah,
and four touchdowns on top of that, And you're right.
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Notre Dame had a thirty eight to twenty lead and
it looked like Florida State was dead and they put
together a drive US long touchdown drive and they barely scored.
They had a couple of penalties on the drive. Didn't
look like it was gonna work out, and they slowly
just chipped away, chipped away, and it became this crazy game.
Not the greatest execution, and we'll get to Brian Kelly's
(02:50):
thoughts on execution here, but lots of drama and Florida
State quarterback Mackenzie Milton became the story. And this was
like straight out of the Disney playbook. But this guy
suffered this hideous knee injury three years ago when he
was at u CF. We're talking nerve damage, artery damage,
doctors thought he wouldn't be able to walk again without
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experiencing severe pain. And just like Alex Smith did last
year for the Washington football team, you had Mackenzie Milton
fight his way back and it was crazy, Jeff. You
had the starting quarterback get his helmet knocked off, so
he has to come out of the game for a play.
Milton comes in, completes a pass and Mike Northfeld, the
head coaches like screw it, let's ride the hot head.
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That kept Milton in there, and he played well, forced
the game into overtime. Notre Dame just had a little
bit too much. But for that guy to go through
all that rehab fight his way back on the field,
that's literally, it sounds so cheesy. That's literally the stuff
movies are made out of. It was great to see
that from him. It's pretty incredible what modern medicine you
can you can do for people right now. Obviously, the
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will of Milton to rehab and Alex Smith and in
his counts there's uh is incredible. I mean, I've I've
been hurt many times in my career. Um rehab is exhausting,
not not even just physically exhausting, just mentally having to
continue to try to bring your a game every day
because you know, gains happen. Um, it happened very small.
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It doesn't feel like much is happening a lot of
times in rehab and it's just mentally exhausting and so um,
you know, just to overcome that and even get in
a place where you can play in the football game
is impressive, and then let alone play well in the
football game is even more impressive. Right, So, um, that's
a great story. It's awesome when players are able to
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to overcome the odds to get back on the field
and then he played well. Right, it's not just it's
not just enough to to be on the field. Um,
I mean it is enough in his situation, but then
he played really well afterwards. So that was great to
see for him. And look for Mike Norvelle second year
at Florida State. You know, defensively they were question marks
heading in the season. I'm not sure anywhere answered last night. Up,
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we know he can he can drop an offense. His
offenses were great at Memphis and it was gonna see
the offense play well last night, so you know they
have a chance. They'll have a chance in a lot
of games this year because of that. Yeah, and you
get all the second guessing. You know, you got into
overtime and it sounds crazy, but um, there was. It
looked to be a fumble, right, um. And so the
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Florida State was kicking a fifty yard field goal. They
had the possession at first in overtime, so they're dead even, right,
and so Florida State goes on, all right, let's kick
a fifty yard or they they called time out right
before the kick to review the play. So the Florida
State kicker boots it in from fifty yards and that
was a free kick. They whistled it dead and all that,
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so they review the play. It turns out it's an
incomplete pass. So Florida State gets a lot closer. They
get thirteen yards closer. The kicker misses it. So I'm
sure some people are second guessing. Mike Dornveeld, that was
the right call. That was the right call to challenge it.
If you want to second guess something. Second guest midway
through the third quarter when go for it on fourth
and two at their own thirty three, don't get it.
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Notre Dame scores a touchdown and starts to build their lead.
That earlier play is something your second guest. I don't
second guess him challenging an incomplete pass and getting a
lot closer for a more makeable field goal. It's it's
just crazy how it worked out. But he shouldn't get
criticized for that. No, he shouldn't um and look at
the fourth down thing is pretty interesting because you know
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a lot of teams are just are just going for it.
I mean like that, there's not there's really sometimes doesn't
feel like a rhyme a reason, you know, fourth and
two at the thirty. I was watching a bunch of
games this weekend where you know, like, all right, well
let's just do it. I mean, you know because again,
like I just I think scoring is so easy for
the most part, all right, obviously outside of of again
the one game this weekend, really two games, right, I
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mean Wisconsin Penn State and and Clemson Georgia. It's just
if you if you miss on on fourth and and two,
guess what, you have a fourth and two again four
minutes later, right like it, it just seems like it's
worth it to go for it and and be aggressive
and continue to push your team forward, and in that
case it did. It didn't work obviously, but I'm not
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sure that was the difference in the game. I mean
it was it went overtime. Here's the thing about it though,
and you know this as a as a football fan,
overtime tends to tends to to help the favorite, right.
If the underdog is has made it that far overtime,
it's just hard to continue to keep that going, right.
I think underdogs would much rather prefer to win in
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regulation that win overtime, because then we're then over time
it's more controlled, right. Everyone starts in the same at
the same spot. Um, you know, you kind of are
in the same stue, and then that favors the better team. Yeah. Yeah,
typically that's the way it works out. I'm Brian, though,
he's Jeff Schwartz here on OutKick the coverage on Fox
Sports Radio. Now we've been teasing this thing. We gotta
get to it with with Fry and Kelly. The joke
(07:52):
that just fell flat. This is the Notre Dame head
coach trying to quote John McKay, the old Tampa Bay
Bucketeers coach from the mid seventies. This was Brian Kelly
after the game, I'm in favor of execution. Maybe maybe
our entire team needs to be executed after tonight. Okay,
(08:13):
all right? So that the greatest quoting right there by
Brian Kelly. And this was the explanation when he was
asked about it by reporters following the game. Why it
was taken serious? Are you people crazy? Everyone's like, oh,
it's a John McKay quote that he used after a game.
(08:34):
I was stealing one of his old quotes and being funny.
I guess nobody likes to be funny anymore. So yeah,
if you want to, you know, take me to town
on that, please do. Okay, So the quote he was
trying to go with. McKay was asked about his team's
execution and he replied, I'm in favor of it, which
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is hilarious. Somehow that turned in to maybe our entire
team needs to be executed after tonight. So he's screwed
it up. Not the end of the world. But for
him to be like, it's a John McKay quote, it's like,
b K, if you got the quote right, it's not
a big deal. You screwed it up royally, that's all. Also,
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you know, we know this that the best comedians always
have to explain their junks. Everyone. That's that's always it's
always how they work. I mean, you know the best
of them when I'm listening to them, like, can you
explain that to me? Please? Yeah, if you explain a joke, Brian,
any funny? So um, I mean he's not gonna know
what to be in trouble for this, um, but definitely
basically not not the way to go. Um. After you
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win a game like that, after watching that, do you think?
What do you think of Notre Dame? Are they a
playoff contender? Could they make noise if they get there?
Where you at with the Irish? So? I mean yes
and no, right, I mean they can make the playoff,
but that no one's Here's the thing. There are such
a wide gap right now between Alabama is doing and
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everyone else is doing. And it's and I used to
hate it. I used to be like, you know, what's
screw the SEC, screw Alabama. Um, And I've really come
to appreciate it because it is what Nick Saban is
doing in Alabama is really hard to do. I understand
that people will say they get all the five stars
and you're You're right, they do. They recruit their butts off,
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but for me, it's more about the coaching turnover and
they continue drive for success. Right. We know that that
it's hard to win in sports. Okay, if you look
at just look at l s U. I mean two
years ago they couldn't be beaten and last and they
went Saturday. I got pushed around by the powdered blue
of the Bruins, and I'm very happy for that. We
can get it at some point, um, but you know,
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look at all the look at Florida State with the
you know the one year they won with Jimbo or Alburn,
you know, with with with Camping. There's a lot of
teams that have kind of had this this one hit wonder. Right,
Alabama has definitely not been a one hit wonder under Saban.
So the motive they to keep continuing to win. When
you stack up, even even the players that are there,
they continue to win a stack opp charity. It's very
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hard to continue to be motivated at that level, and
so it's very impressive to seem continuing to play well
and execute a high level. They also turn over offensive
coordinates like every season, right, it's now Bill Brian turned
to run. It's you know, they've turned over defensive coordinators
and to continue to play at this high level. And
part of it is is that you know a guy
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like Bryce Young, the quarterback, who has sat for a
year and he's waited his turn. He wasn't he wasn't
a championship two, right, So they continue to be motivated
to play really well, and dude, they can. And I
thought they would smoke Miami was one of my favorite
bets of the week. They came out and smoked my
and Miami's not bad. I don't know how good they are,
but it looked like it looked like a man among boys.
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Man they smoked Miami, And um, you loot, Georgia Clemson
play who you don't score enough points against Alabama? I
don't care how good your defensive line is. Alabama's offensive
line is the best in the country right now. Continue
to be the best in the country. The first pick overall,
first offensive lineman drafted will be on their team, their
left tackle like they there. It's it's I've gone point
where I'm so supremely impressed by their ability to continue
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to dominate teams. One of my my favorite moments of
the weekend was Miami there down twenty seven to nothing
against Alabama. They get a turnover, so they bust out
the turnover chain and it's blamed out even more. It's beautiful.
And then the play was reviewed and then it was
Alabama that recovered the fumble, and it's like, oh gosh,
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into the box, goes to turnover chain and it's it
was a double whammy. You're celebrating down twenty seven nothing
and then it got overturned and you're celebrating for nothing.
It was hilarious. But yeah, we will get to that momentarily.
The Grand Canyon size divide between Alabama and everybody else.
It was one of the quotes of the weekend. You're
either elite or you're not. We'll talk about who said
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it and how it does apply to the college football landscape.
I'm Brian No. He's Jeff Schwartz. This is Outkicked the
Coverage on Fox Sports Radio. This this is Outkicked the Coverage.
Brian No, He's Jeff Schwartz. Welcome back to the OutKick
the Coverage studios here on Fox Sports Radio. You know,
our guy Roberto is with us this morning. Jeff I
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don't know if you wanted to, you know, wish him
a happy Monday and remind him that your Giants beat
his Dodgers last night. I don't know if you want
to do anything like that. Giants have secured winning record
this season against the Dodgers, So now a tiebreaker between those,
you know, the tiebreaker between those two teams, if they
come down the stretch in our time, I think it
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might actually come down to it. I think it might
come down to that's very important considering obviously what's happening
in the NL West. Um, the Giants won a bullpen
game last night, which was infuriating as a fan to
see them used five relievers in three innings, but they
settled down, they won the game. Obviously, It's never a
Giants game unless it's close at the end, and they
made it close. And um, look, I I still waiting
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for this to be over because I don't know how
the Giants. I mean, their pitching staff right now is
just a wreck. Like they don't have an ace. Gossman
has not been terribly good after the break. Um, I
don't even know. If they had a one game who
they throw. I think they would throw a Logan Web
and the would have to be he's been their best
pat like Logan Web. But yes, is there. I mean, like,
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this's the thing about about why I think it's important
for the Giants to obviously win the West and not
playing the play. The Dodgers are set up well to
playing a playing game, right, they have pick a picture
that would I mean obviously sure it would be the
would be the best bet. I mean even be well, yeah,
that's also true. But you know David is not making
any of those roster decisions. Someone upstairs, it's called them,
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and then you end up having nine guys that can
hit a home running any time. I mean, we so,
I I just it's incredible. I keep waiting for the
Giants to screw this up and just have it, and
they're I mean they're rotating. Darren ruff Is batting leadoff
half the time. Now, I mean, it's incredible that even
the Giants ends are saying, I don't even believe this,
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you know, no, totally fans of a team were like,
I knew it. I knew it the whole time. But yeah,
I still wait for them to not fall apart, but
at least dip to second place. They won't do it,
and I have a n L West ticket for the Giants.
I do every year at at plus. Um it's a
five dollar wage, but five dollars for the Giants to
win the n L West and plus, so I make
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a little bit of coin if we, uh, if we
end up doing it. So I I'm look, we'll see
how it goes. Obviously, down the stretch got Colorado, we
have a lot of Padres games left. How about you, uh,
how about your hedge and bet on the Dodgers. What
do you think about that? Jeff, It's five dollars my
my unfortunately my salary in my previous careers on the internet.
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So I'm hopeful that you can understand. I would I
can afford the five dollars here. Um, but yeah, no,
I'm gonna I'm I'm fine. Um, maybe you can hedge
at some point later in the year down the stretch,
but we have a lot of games. It's to Padre
and those games typically are like three to two, So
M fifty five hundred, good lord, Like, that's amazing. It's
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I'm only gonna win two fifty because I've got five dollars.
But um, it would be if i'd bet a hundred
dollars to be even better. But I just putting a
hundred dollars with the Giants were supposed to win seventy
five games this year. That's amazing. Now. Kirby Smart is
the head coach at Georgia, and he said after Georgia
beat Clemson, you're either elite or you're not. What a
quote right there. I love that. The only problem is,
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like you mentioned earlier in the show, Georgia had no
offense whatsoever. So I love their defense. They were flying
around seven sacks on the night to pick six by
Christopher Smith, the safety. It was a defensive gem just
the chef's kished. It was beautiful, but no offense whatsoever.
You gotta score points to take down Bama. I will
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say that. Um I am prize how much Georgia's talking
after this game? Right? One of their running backs put
on Instagram a post of like we don't play with
kids around here, and I thought, and so I was like, okay,
oh wow, dead was a Tunor yard rusher in this game?
You had seventy four yards to the ground, Like what
do you what are we doing? Guys? You want to
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game ten to three? It wasn't like you blew them out.
I mean, good yet Georgia hasn't had wins like this
in a while, So good for Georgia and their defense.
Their defense should be the ones talking. They played outstanding, right,
They arrass d jail game, end up with eight sacks
and obviously a bunch of pressures as well. Um, but Georgia, man,
they are they are talking like they're gonna went through
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with a championship this year. And look, I mean you
haven't obviously a chance to run through an SEC schedule
and make it happen. But offensively you have to be better, right,
I mean you're not. You're not beating Alabama with ten points. Yeah,
it was the fewest points scored by a dab of
Sweeney coached Clemson team. So that you said it perfectly.
If anyone should talk, it should be the defensive players,
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not a running back. That's if I want to play
with kids, I'll have some on my own or something
to that effect. And it's like, you guys scored three
points offensively the same as Clemson. Like. The difference was
the pick six that swung it there, and and that
was a really good job about Georgie's defense and the
pick six and kind of baited with pressure. So a
lot of times when when you when there's pressure from
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one side, the idea for the quarterback as you throw
behind the pressure right because the defensive might be late rotating.
So if there were two guys coming from from DJ's
right side, and so he just stared down the inside
wide receiver and that defensive back was sitting right there
and boom picked it off and back to the house. So, um,
look it's a big win for Georgia. Um and look,
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there's a lot of of overall big pictures and we
can maybe get to to my conference out west. But
the a c C man who I comes in right,
comes and lost. North Carolina is supposed to be a
playoff contender. They didn't look like it. Florida State now
a very close game, lost as well, uh to Miami game.
Miami got blown out. You know, we talk a lot
about and people. Rightfully, the patrol deserves some of it.
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But um, and we didn't play very well this weekend.
But the a CEC is not looking strong. If Clemson
is not going to be your your top dog. And
I still think that Clemson will be good, but they
just ran to a tough defense. Yeah, and let me
just say real fast, I don't know what it is.
A lot of quarterbacks get the benefit of the doubt
when they throw a pick on a slant route, and
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I don't know why that's the case. I don't think
anyone gave DJ the benefit of the doubt. It was
it was you stare down. Yeah, that was a great
play by Christopher Smith. But I mean that's on DJ.
I just go back to I flashed back to. Yeah,
I go back to the Super Bowl when Marshawn Lynch
is right there Seahawks on the one and they go
with the pass play which was a bad cough granted,
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but it's a great play, great play by Balcoot Butler.
It was all Daryl Bevil. That's a hideous decision by
Russell Wilson. Never got any heat. Okay, let's go back
for a second. Is this of the topic of mine
I love talking about I wrote about this and you
could find it. Jeff Schwartz, just Jeff Schwartz, eSPI Nation
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where it was two. No it's not, but you should
you should be You can go find telling you I
wrote I wrote about because this is like it's mind
numbing how people talk about this. Okay, seat don't have
to throw the ball right. They were out leverage up front,
they would have been tackled for a loss. They have
enough blockers, Okay, I don't care. Problem. The problem was
they chose like the popular route concept that year that
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everyone was doing, which that pick play right, and so
it wasn't even that Russell Wilson should have thrown the ball.
That was just a bad play call right. That was
where the ball is supposed to go. It was executed
a little poorly, and then threw the ball to where
everyone knew was going on that play. There were other options.
They should just go a different past concept. Um, I'm
not sure. Again, Wilson's that's where the ball is supposed
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to go. So he was executing the players designed. I
just would have done something that wasn't popular that year,
Like everyone knew that season and really somequent seasons that
in that formation to place coming. And so Malcolm Muller
did a great job. Russell Wilson, I mean, I guess
we're every one else was open. That's where the ball
is supposed to go. And I think he saying Butler
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did a great job. I just I love talking about
this because I go the other way. I have no
problem with it there being a pass called. But like
in that situation, if your guy has covered, you don't
throw it Russell Wilson, you use your legs, you extend
the play trying to do something covered. Though, that's a
point like last night, no see like okay, like last like,
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would you would you say that Georgia defensive back was
all over the Clemson Uh not the same way he
baited DJ He was a lot more and Butler, and
Butler baited Wilson, Like I think that when when Wilson
threw the ball, Butler was still behind right, he came
through the wide receiver and there's look, there's we could
we could debate. I mean, I think Paul Archinson should
have done a better job of kind of playing to
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the ball right And there's a lot of things that
could have been different UM on that play. UM. But yeah, quarterbacks,
especially if we like them, we'll get the benefit of
the doubts. I'm not saying that they don't. UM. And
Wilson's one of those guys, right, Wilson is not very
good sometimes in the pocket. UM as far as his
pocket presence and what he does, but he gets kind
of a pass from that um And you know, this
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is an interesting year first for Seattle. They have a
very tough division and with the Rams now being much improved,
so there's a lot uh you know that that that
that division will be fun to watch. You know, Jeff,
there's one team I want to stop hearing about in
college football. That would be the Oklahoma Sooners because this
number two team in the country and this year a
lot like other years, look out for Oklahoma. Their defense
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is legit. This year they barely survived at home against
two lane forty to thirty five, and two Lane on
fourth and thirteen almost picked up the first down. Quarterback
ran for about twelve and a half yards and was
a little bit short. If he picked up that first down,
we might be talking about Oklahoma losing that game. I
don't want to hear anything more about the fool's gold Sooners.
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This is not an overreaction after Week one. This is
more of the same. They're trumpeted. Oh, they might take
down Bama. They might get blown out by three touchdowns
instead of five this year. That's it. They're not close
to beating Alabama. Stopping no, they're they're not. Um, and look,
defensively they continue to have just you know, not not
the personnel or not you know not. I only it's
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a coaching problem. It's kind of a personnel issue. Um,
they just don't they just don't have those guys. And
it's it's hard to close out games sometimes, but it's
very clear that shut it down and they were a
huge in that game, right and they just mentally kind
of shut it down, and it is it's hard to
kind of get it back going once you have have
kind of shut things down. So um, it's uh, it's
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difficult in that situation. But yes, they're defensively did they
have no chance and they continue to have no chance. Um,
look we we we want parody in sports, and they're
just not in college football right now. I can still
be a fun season. I know my organ Ducks had
a struggle to go to Ohio State. I'm looking forward
to watching that game on Saturday. But you know, but realistically,
we're not winning a championship this year. It's just is
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what it is. And and we kind of a point
in college football that I think is not is not
that great, which is this is the only success for
your team can be a playoff appearance. But I think
it's is bs right. Not every team is good enough
to make a playoff. Not every team is good have
to even win a conference. We have to be we
have to be um realistic with expectations for our favorite teams.
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And yes, Oklahoma is hopeful that they can make a playoff.
But again, guys, what have you shown so far that
has you think and you can have you can play defense,
and there's nothing that has been done under Lenken Riley
where you say, hey, that defense is good enough to
help us win a championship. So yes, maybe you've been
playoff team. Maybe not. Iowa State's really good and you're
you know, they struggled this past weekend. They have Iowa
this week, so we'll see how they do. Um. You know,
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obviously Texas look pretty good, I thought for Stark's debut. Um,
but yeah, you you might win the the the conference,
but you're not good enough to win a cham It's
just okay, And that's okay. It's okay to be that.
It's that's perfectly fine, right, And I think that we've
got a point where it's like playoff championship bust or
bus like that those are the only options. It's tough
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because I hear you, but it goes against everything that
we've known, right, It's we've been no moral victories. Second
place is the first loser. It's different in college football
than March Madness. It's celebrated where you get to the
final four in March Madness way more than in college football.
And if you go there in like Ohio State they
got crushed by Alabama, it's hard to walk away from
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the championship game, like, man, we still had a successful season.
It's like you got your teeth kicked. I mean, but
I think, okay, not every situation is is the same.
Right if you're a Higer state in that spot, if
you're in the title game, I think you would expect,
especially if you're Ohio State who's won championships, you expect
to win that game, right. I mean that's a little
different than Oklahoma was yet to win a playoff game.
I mean, like what I and you know, we we
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see Okay, you know you struggle on defense Week one,
struggle on defense again. I mean, yes, you can be better.
Season goes on. I get that, but how inspiring is
that defense to you know? Like it just it doesn't
feel like you don't feel inspiring, Like you can't feel
any any different than than we do right now about
them after week one? Now, am I wrong about this?
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Or is this some Notre Dame homerism? I feel like
Notre Dame gets the bad rap if they get blown
out in a playoff game, It's like, oh my gosh,
here we go again. Why is Notre Dame in this thing?
We knew what was gonna happen. Oklahoma has gotten dusted
numerous times. I don't feel like their reputation is as bad. No,
And I'm with you there, like I have. I have,
especially last year, argue like who who's better than the
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Notre Dame to play Alabama? Tell me, tell me who
was better? Like who would have put? Who would have
had a better game? And you know we we said,
oh no, I'm should have been in all right, give
me the alternative, give me the who who was a
better option to play Alabama? Last year? The answer is
always I don't have it known as an answer. I'm
with you they, but I think they've also just kind
of stunk in all these games for a long time
now until people are over you know what, in. Here's
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the thing about I really it's interesting. So you know,
people are over kind of the same teams playing in
college football, and look at the twelve team playot if,
I guess will help that, but we'll have the same champion.
But there is such a disparity right now in college football.
A telf team playoff doesn't fix any of that, right,
And it just adds more teams into a playoff, but
doesn't make Alabama worse, or clums in the worse, Ohio
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State worse, or even Oklahoma worse. It just adds more
teams to mix. I mean Cincinnati, Okay, yes, they had
a great season last year. They would lose by thirty
five to Alabama, Like it would even be close if
Alabama's playing to the full potential. I get everyone wants
to see that game and get give the little dog
a chance because in two thousand eight, Utah beat Alabama.
I mean, yeah, okay, Utah. How Alex Smith at quarterback? Right?
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Like they didn wanna pick overall, they weren't to Eric
Weddle at safety like that. They had some NFL talent
on that team, right, Um. I it's just it's silly
that that people I guess believe it will be different
than it has been for a long time. And maybe
I'm just because I'm just a I'm not an optimist
all the time. They realist like it just is, that's
what comfortable is right now, And I get why it
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cannot be fun for people to always think about the
same three teams winning it. But I'm an organ fan,
like I hope we get there. I'm hopeful that we
get there at some point. I don't look at it
as oh my god, I'm not gonna enjoy Ogan football
this year because Alabama is really good. I'm gonna enjoy
Oorgan football. And I hope at some point we can
build to be good enough to to take to take
down Alabama, no doubt. I hear you. I hear what
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you're saying. It's just funny where anything that you heard
throughout this entire weekend apply to some teams that got
out of the gate slowly. Where it's week one, it's
not easy to hit the ground running. If you're Clemson
and you're playing a tough opponent, you know it's it's
not the easiest thing. And then you look at Bama, right,
and then you look at Bama. Everything traces back to
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Bama Oklahoma. They stumbled a little bit, but it's early.
Don't write them off. And then there's Bama winning fort thirteen.
Anything you said to try to give a little grace
to one of these other teams, it just it doesn't
apply Tobama. They're a machine. They're a juggernaut over there.
And I give them credit because it's so difficult to
live up to those expectations. It's championship or bust every
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single year, and sometimes that could be suffocating. It doesn't
even bother them. It's like they're impervious the feeling the
pressure of my expectations. I think again, I go back
to what I said early on. When you have players
that are waiting their turn to beat, to be that
guy right by song, for example, then I think that
it is um you are. You're so motivated to get
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your own championship, right um. And you come in and
you're like, I want to be the first pick overall,
I don't want a championship, and so you wait your
turn for that moment. When you get that moment, you're
ready to go. And that's what I tell you about motivation,
right is that it's it's impressive to Alabama, especially at
the top, right, saving the coaching staff, did you have
the motivate? But but I'll tell you again the turnover
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at coordinator and position coaches like Bill O'Brien right now,
who's the who's the o c He has a reputation
or rebuild, right, Stark had a reputation to rebuil old,
and so they want to be the best version they
can be to become a head coach. Again, it worked
for Stark, right, he came out and he was he
was Texas and Texas again looked pretty good for their
first game. They played a wiry opponent. Right in Louisiana.
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Bill O'Brien wants to be head coach again, right, he
was good at Penn States. He was not actually think
it's the head coach. He wasn't bad in Houston's just
a terrible general manager. So he wants to become a
head coach and so he has motivation to show the
best he can bryce again, the quarterback has motivation to
be the best he can be, to win a championship
and be drafted number one overall. Anyone else who comes in,
you know, a new running back, new wide receiver, new
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a new offensive line, a new linebackers, all the same motivation.
I want to get my own championship, and I want
to be drafting the NFL. And when you continue to
have those those that mindset, you're gonna continue to be good.
There's no You're not stagnant because of of of past
performances because those guys are gone. They're all gone. Now
it's your turn as a young player to win that championship. Okay,
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we got a lot to do this morning, Jeff. I
where as I look at my notes, the pack twelve
is in my notes, you know, I mean, I don't
even know what the notes could be that I mean
how I mean U c A, I guess is the
only note the only positive. Britain Brian Filly is probably
pumped his Bruins to the Tigers. He is beyond pumped.
Pumped isn't even the word. I don't know what he's
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giddy over there. But coming up next it's the wild
card of the entire football season as it relates to
college and also the pros. We'll talk about it. I'm Brian,
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he's Jeff Schwartz. Welcome back to the oul Kick the
Coverage studios here on Fox Sports Radio. So it's the
wild card of the entire football season, Jeff, and that
is COVID. We've got Zack Martin, stud offensive lineman for
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the Dallas Cowboys. He is vaccinated, but he contracted COVID.
He's not gonna be cleared to play for at least
five days, so he's gonna miss the season opener. That's
a huge loss for the Cowboys. As they take on
Tampa and Tampa's number one ranked rush defense, and you
also have Lane Kiffin, he's gonna miss the game tonight
as old miss. Uh they're on the field against Louisville
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and uh. I just for vaccinated players, for unvaccinated players,
especially because the timeline is longer to get back, you
might be knocked out for two games if you test
positive late in the week. I think this is the
ultimate wild card for both college football and the NFL
to see how this shakes out and how teams are
affected by it. Yeah, I don't know if it's a
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wild card, if it's actually a thing that's that's happening, right,
Like it's gonna happen, and you know, you obviously hope
that uh, you know, for Zach Barney he gets back
in the five day time frame that or whatever it
is for vaccinent players. But yeah, it's gonna be it's
gonna be a huge problem, and you know, you you
hope that, um, it doesn't affect your team. And look,
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Zach martin Is is a future Hall of Famer. He's fabulous.
I mean, even Zeke said, like a lot of our
runs are around Zack martins Is. Definitely gonna hurt them. Um,
but it's gonna hurt teams with unvaccinated quarterbacks at a
far higher rate in my opinion, right, I mean Zack
Martin had to test positive to miss the game. If
you are a vaccinated player and you have a close contact, uh,
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you don't have to quarantine, right, And we know that
unvaccind players have a five day quarantine on you know,
like any time they're near a someone who has has
the positive. So, um, it's it's gonna be you know,
if you're the Colts, right, your quarterback Carson Wentz, your
defensive captain Darius Leonard both not a v accident. I
mean they're gonna miss time this year. It's that simple.
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And um, and again it's it's unpredictable when when that's
gonna be. And you're exactly right, it's gonna hurt a
team even worse than the Cowboys at some point. It's
not not good for the Cowboys, but they'll be okay
if Dak is able to play. Um, but it's gonna
hurt someone at courter position. It is gonna really be
detrimental to them. Yeah, I mean, like with the wild card,
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it's definitely happening. It already is. So that's not a
question of whether it does or doesn't happen, it's just when,
Like just think of I'm looking at the Viking schedule.
Week eight. They play the Cowboys on Sunday Night Football,
and so let's say Kirk Cousins plays great, it's a
win for the Vikings. They got all this momentum. And
then on Thursday, lead ing up to the game against
the Ravens, you've got Kirk Cousin contracting COVID and oh,
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by the way, he's out the next week against the Chargers.
It's like whoa, Like, it's just not normal where we
just saw this guy play on Sunday, he finished the game,
he was healthy, and then on Friday he contracts COVID
and he's gone for two weeks. If he's unvaccinated. That's
where I say it's a wild card. You just don't
know when it's gonna strike and how you're gonna be
affected by it. Correct, the unvaccinated players in the NFL,
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we're testing positive seven times more than vaccine players, right, so, um,
you know there there's ways to help them. And look
and we see the Tampa Bay right, Uh, they have
a fully vaccine team, right, They're committed to winning. And
I get it, it's people's choices of vaccine or not,
but but there is no denying that teams that are
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in the hunt, I think I have a higher vaccination
rate than those who are not. I mean, like Tampa
Bay understands. And look, there's there's players on the team
I know that were hesitant to take the vaccine, but
that decided to because it's better for their team, right,
It's better to help their team out. They want to
be a team player here, and it's you know, Timby
is all in. I mean, we talked about Bama this morning, right, mean,
Tim Bay feels like they're in the same boat, right,
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I mean, they're all in on on on winning a championship. Again,
you know, they're right there. And we mentioned Lane Kiffin,
head coach at Old Miss. He contracted COVID. He's vaccinated,
as the entire team is, talking players, coaches, staff members,
everybody's vaccinated. And so Lane Kiffin, he addressed this on
ESPN's College Game Day because there are people that are like, well, well,
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what's the point of getting vaccinated if you've got COVID.
Here's Lane Kiffin. The great thing is, you know, because
well you vaccine, well had we not been, you know,
we have a lot of close contact shut down and
not playing in this game, including our quarterback. Obviously I'm
near him all day long. Yeah, I just did them.
I mean, if we're just keeping this just with a
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football thing, it's the way the rules are set up.
Matt Corrall, who's a stud quarterback, he wouldn't be playing
tonight for Old Miss. So it's obviously an advantage. Although
it doesn't mean if you get vaccinated there's no chance
you contract COVID. I don't know why some people are
banging that drama, like, hey you contracted COVID? Why even
get vaccinated? For for many reasons, right, the rules are
(37:16):
set up for a quicker return is one of the reasons.
It's it's simple, man. The people that argue that just
are going to argue anything. It's that simple. Like, they
don't they don't want to understand. They don't. It's there's
no point even arguing. I just I've done with that.
You're right. They just don't. They just don't want to.
They just don't want to. They don't want to be
right about it. Let me ask you this. If you're
(37:40):
currently in the NFL and one of your big time
players isn't vaccinated and he contracts COVID and he's out
for two weeks, how are you how what are you thinking?
Because there's a lot like publicly here, Well, it's it's choice.
And if that's the scenario, what's going through your mind? Okay,
(38:02):
so let's let's talk about the Vikings quickly. So let's
say cousins mrs two weeks, he's not about fit and
those two weeks of Vikings lose and that cost that
costs Mike Zimmer his job. And now new coach comes
in and the new coach doesn't like you right as
a player, which is the way it kind of always works.
Um and you know, and then you and then you're
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and then you're you know, you're out um of the
team and you get cut. I mean that that's you
know again, it's it's it's far fetched ish, but it
can happen. They'd be pretty piste. Yeah if that was
the case, right, Like, no, it's a domino effect, right,
I Mean it's harder to say that's exactly gonna happen,
but yeah, yeah, people will be pissed. Oh yeah, really,
(38:45):
this could wreck someone season. It really could. Because we
talked about coaches losing the locker room, players can lose
the locker room also, And I really think that like
Mike Zimmer, for example, he understands this, like he understands
that that they have to they have to me because
of the play to keep his job. Yeah. Yeah, it's
(39:05):
It's just it's gonna be fascinating to see how it
plays out. Because it's one thing for a player to
contract COVID in the preseason and it's like, wow, it's
his choice. It becomes real when it's week fifteen and
someone's out for two weeks in your playoff lives are
at steak. That's when it becomes real. And no SoundBite
is gonna be really really interesting. All Right, we're gonna
get to some gambling prop bets in the second hour. Also,
(39:28):
the true test is if you can succeed while dealing
with this
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