September 9, 2021 • 57 mins
Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington talk tonight's Cowboys at Bucs opener, there's nothing like football season in America, we get some great coming-out-the-tunnel stories from LaVar and Brady. They discuss Tua not being named captain in Miami, and the Deshaun rumors. LaVar says where there's smoke there's fire, and they give their Wild Card picks. Outkick's NFL insider Albert Breer joins the show to help kickoff the new season, and has all the latest from around the league! Danny G. serves up The Scraps, featuring a Tiger update and MJ underwear up for auction. Plus, the fellas make their Super Bowl picks!
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Can you believe it? It has been months, but it
is finally here, and we are jacked to the gills
about it. We will get into all of that coming
up here just a couple of moments from now. It
is I'll kick the coverage here Fox Sports Radio. Jonas Knox,
LaVar Arrington, and Brady Quinn. You can hang out with
us as always at the I Heart Radio wherever you
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are making us a part of your Thursday morning. We're
gonna take you all the way up until nine am
Eastern times six o'clock specific and we appreciate you doing so,
because guys, it's back. The NFL is back. It is
bad damn straight it is, and we have got Cowboys
Bucks kicking off the season later tonight. Just think about
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all those dreadful sporting events we had to sit through
for the past few months, but we are Finally here,
while everybody fake talks how excited they are about US
men's soccer, we move all that garbage to the side
and we focus on the NFL any other sport damn right. Yeah,
I mean we're always faking and let's just football. That's
It's a football country's country. Yeah, I mean, it's only
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excitement when it's football season. Now, I'm tired of hearing
about these other sports. You don't matter. Other sports, you
don't It's football. It's America culture. We cancel everything. You're
not allowed behind the velvet ropes, stand in line with
the rest of the common folk. You're not allowed in
this club. Yeah. How's that for dismissing a bunch of
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other people to make a ton of money. Now here's
the here's what I would point. I don't I don't
know what it's like. And you guys are gonna tell
game day stories. As a player, I will. I'll just
say this as somebody who never played in the league
has loved football's entire life. The first game of the season,
do you know how unproductive tomorrow morning is going to
be for so many people that are watching that game tonight.
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I mean, they will either call out sick or get
nothing done. This is Christmas, man, and and this really
is the first gift you get to open. And then Sunday,
when all the other gifts are under the tree, you
just get to open all this. I've got a theory
on this, Jonah. I'm telling you man. You guys have traveled, right,
I mean, before you traveled, you've been to Europe. You
know how like they have a completely different lifestyle over
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there where, Like they'll just take a couple of months off,
Like they will take their holiday as they call it,
or vacation, and they will go somewhere for like a
month at a time, sometimes two months at a time.
I mean, I'll put it this way. But in some
places they're living like they are enjoying life. Meanwhile over
here we are grinding. We grind, baby, It's America. That's
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what we do here. We grind. But to Jonas point,
if you add up all those days following the first
game of the NFL season, Mondays, after long Sundays in
the NFL, or after a long weekend of football, if
you like college and NFL, have you started adding up
some of those quote unquote sick days off days. That's
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gonna add up to about a month or so. We
we do it the same thing. We just had to
take them spread out and it happens to the following
around American football. Do you okay, do you guys find
yourself now now that you you're out of the league
and you can look at it from a different vantage point,
do you guys find yourself appreciating more of the fan
aspect of things? Or when you when you get to today,
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you immediately go back in a game day mode and
you just start thinking like a player, like first game
day experience, getting ready for the season, first ever debut,
Like how do you how do you handle that psychologically?
You know, for me, I'm a fan first, so so
I've always approached everything from a fan first perspective. So
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the fans have always mattered to me. Um, how I
approached the game has always mattered to me because I
know the players who came before me. I knew the
players that were playing at the same time as me,
So it was always like a badge of honor. Like
like which said, I never played in in in the
pros before. It's like I made it to the Pros.
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But I always approached things like the guy that didn't
make it to the pros, you know, as always like always,
like when I walked around, you see a kid, you know,
a quick story. When I was when I was younger,
my heroes were high school players, high school football, high
school basketball. They were the most like they stood out
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to me. They were the most intriguing to me. And
my favorite player. I remember one time my dad took
me to a playoff game to see them in a
basketball playoff game. We get to to the we get
to the arena and I see him standing because they
you know, you have tournament style playoff games, you know,
once you get to the playoffs, and they're sitting in
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the bleachers waiting for the game before them to get
to the third quarter so they could go change for
their game. I run off on my dad because I
see my guy. He's like, he doesn't know me, and
he doesn't know that he's my guy, but that's my guy.
So I go running up to him and he blows
me off. Dude, blew me off. I won't say his name,
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but because we're actually friends, were actually friends now twitter hand.
So so he blows me off and and and my
Dad's like, you know whoa you know, he finally catches
up and he sees the exchange taking place and do
with like basically like, can you just leave me alone
and let me, you know, watch the game and like
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get my mind right for the game type stuff. And
my dad was like, man, you couldn't you know, take
a moment or sign an autograph for him? And I
stopped my dad. I was like, you know, don't worry
about that. I was like, one thing I'll never do, Dad,
is be like him if I ever make it. And
I pointed at him and when I said it and
go figure like all those years later, I think I
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was in Like heck, I don't know. I had to
been in either at the end of grade school, probably
at like my fifth grade year. It's either my fifth
grade year or my sixth grade year of school. But
I remember telling my dad looked my dad in my eyes,
I was like that, I'll never be like that. So
for me, when I when I watched football and I
approached football, it's like I can't do it as a
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civilian because my mind is always breaking down the XS
and ose of it, so it's it's very difficult to
watch as a normal civilian. But I never have stopped
watching it as a fan either. So it's like I
enjoy watching guys. I enjoy knowing who they are. I
enjoy you know, the stories behind them, the side stories
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and all that stuff. So it's always has been exciting
for me in the same way, even if I was
in a state of competing versus just just trying to
watch it as a civilian that's retired. Now, yeah, listen,
well you know not everybody's a pride of Double Ohio. Right. Well,
I was gonna say, let let me give you the
the alternative point of view. So I are we going
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into like our first game now, is like I can
relate in some fashion to kind of lav Ore in
two senses, like as a player and then as just
kind of like a fan and kind of a young
kid who's like dream came true. Like I remember before
a week one, two thousand seven, We're playing the Pittsburgh Steelers,
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and I remember being in the locker room before the
game and like this, like overwhelming emotions came over me,
like I don't I can't describe it. I don't know why.
It was just that moment when I kind of realized, like,
holy crap, man, you played in the NFL like you
did it. And I started thinking about my parents. I
started thinking about all the people my uncle Dave, my
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high school coach Greg Fry, who worked with me when
I was young. I started thinking about all the people
in my life that helped me get to that point,
and I just I became I was so overwhelmed with
like thankfulness. And I think I told you guys, like
from the youngest time, I grew up a Browns fan man,
like some of the memories, the only memories I have
of going to games with my grandpa was going to
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see the Browns, and so it like all hit me
in that moment when I put the helmet on we
started to walk out the tunnel. I'm like, dude, I'm
trying to fight back tears because it's just it was
so It's so seldom in my life that I took
a moment to realize like what was happening around me.
I was always the type of person that was more
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focused in on like what was going on, the situation
in the game, um my teammates, the scheme, whatever the
case was. I mean, from the youngest stage, my my
dad used to always ask me, are you having fun?
And used to be always so into it and want
to win so bad and so competitive that like I
never stopped to think about how cool it was. And
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I remember for the Pittsburgh Steelers game, like going out
of the tunnel and in the locker room beforehand, like
just those emotions and how it felt because there was
so much hard work and sacrificed by everyone evolved, including myself,
to get to that point. But uh, then the game started,
and then and then I was like, oh, snap, we're
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not very good, like like the Steelers are legit man,
Like we've been watching film, I've been hearing stories, I've
watched them for years, and I'm like, man, we got
some work to do with a bench. Charlie Fry at half,
Derrick Anderson goes into second half, I think he threw
a pick or two. And then now the reality hit
me as I'm I'm walking out of the stadium after
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the game, like, man, we're not very good. We turn
this thing around. And then they traded Charlie Fry that
next week now and now people are like, hey, you
might be starting. I was like, hell, yeah, give me
the raid, let's do this thing. Um. But which at
that point they gave it to Derrick Anderson, and since
Daty's defense was one of which then at least that
year you could throw on them a little bit. So
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that was the funny thing was we always kind of
felt like whoever got the start week two was gonna
be the start of the rest of the way. I
almost kind of apply it to like Florida State after
the Mackenzie Milton Jordan Travis situation this past Sunday, um,
because whoever gets to start this week versus was Jacksonville State.
I think they play they're gonna be the starter for
a while because they should be able to show out
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a little bit. But it was kind of like that,
you see, you were more emotional about walking out to
the field four game one than you were when you
got drafted. Yeah, and and and then part of that
might have to do with like how my draft they went,
not even like sliding to what I thought two. It
was more of like literally, dude, like we were sitting
in Roger Goodell's green room with my family having just
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crushed a bunch of Chipotle burritos, try to clean up
after ourselves, and they're like jerking me onto the stage
after I had spent some time talking to the Ravens,
and then it was the Browns that traded up with
like two minutes left, So it was like kind of chaotic,
to be honest, We're like people were trying to get
me up out of there and Archipotle probably get your
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family out of here. And that's why you were chewing
gum on on the stage, right. Yeah, I was like,
I can't be walking off stage with steak breathe. I
remember you got heat for that, dude, so I forget. Yeah,
he was upset. He didn't think it looked professional when
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Brady was chewing gum. He just said, Chipotle, Man, it's
like eating a sewer rat wrapped in a blanket. What
do you want from him? I'm just saying, like he's
gonna put some in. He's got all those prostate commercials
he does. He's he's good Heath. But but you know
I did because for whatever reason, I think how that
experience went and at that point, like you're you're getting drafted,
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like it's I don't know, you go through it the
first time. I don't know how with Harp when he
got drafted, but I was like, it wasn't it didn't
hit me then, like that's not football. Football is when
you like strap on the path, you strap everything on,
you get ready to go. And it was at that moment,
for whatever reason, and and maybe because you know, I
prayed before games and all that, where it was like
kind of just you know, one of those conversations where
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you're like this, this actually happened, man, Like you dreampt
about this all your life, this is actually happening that
I had one of those more I did. I cried
before every game. I put a towel over my head
like like it was kind of the coolest part at
a point in time in my career would it wouldn't
be my first time um going out, but just at
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one point in time in my career where I was
the leader, the captain of the team, had had you know,
a resume to to with with the respect the defensive
front and the linebackers. We had a routine. Everybody had
to routine. And as as routine wound wind wound up
and we got ready to go out, I would put
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a towel over my head like and they knew when
I put my towel over my head, I knew that
it was five minutes before it was time for us
to go out. For for a small amount of time,
I think about Peewee League football and and in the
uniform that I wore, and how how I used to
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freak out because I couldn't find my socks that where
team issued socks um that had the name of our
team on it. And I thought about like like my runs,
like different highlights from when I played Peewee League with
flashed through my head. My my, my loved ones, like
people that I went to school with, that somewhere in jail,
some have passed away, you know, my family, Like I ran,
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I ran everything through my head and that in that moment,
for about a minute or so, it seemed like an
eternity and I just cry. I just cry, like you motions,
the raw emotions of like this this all happened. Because
of all of this, I think about my Peee League coaches,
my high school coaches, like my teammates from from every
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Like I would think about my uncle's I would hear
random moments where I'd have an uncle out of game
and he'd be standing on the fence and he'd be like,
go Shorty. And that was my nickname growing up with shot,
my middle names were shot and my my my family
called me shoddy. So I just have random moments where
like go shorty, and I hear stuff that would take
me back to a place in a time, and I
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would just cry. Then once I wiped my face off,
I come up out of that towe and I grabbed
my helmet and everybody standing right there ready like ready
for me to get them the words before we walk
out and go onto the field for warm ups. And
now that's one of my most vivid memories is how
cool that was that they would be waiting like that
was like our routine, like I get my I get
my moment in. Once I grabbed ex Caliber, which was
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my helmet. You know, every ex I was dropping that handle.
It's like when you go into the mind of the
of a maniac, Like you know, we talked about how
you can't watch the game as a as a real
civilian grab ex Caliber. Bron who was and it was
the only only one dude could grab ex Caliber from
the lady of the lake, you know what I mean.
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So in the end, I put ex Caliber on and
it was time to go. Man, they knew it was
time to go. We knew it was time to go,
we go, you know. But that's that's football. Though you
want to talk about the energy and the excitement when
you're really in it, like when you're in it, like
as a as a civilian. It's funny because I get
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those moments and I get those feelings when I'm watching
my kids or kids play. But that feeling that you
get where your body knows that it's about to do
some crazy ish and and the way you start feeling
because it's funny. People used to always say you look
normal during the week. They're like, you look way different
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on game day. And there's honest, the God's true. I
would look like a normal dude during the week, but
when we were about to walk out and go onto
the field, warm up and do what we were doing,
I have veins popping out, like my my my muscles
look bigger, you know what I mean, Like your body,
like my body knew, like this dude is about to
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send us through hell. Let's go. That's like the racehorse.
By that's what they say, my racehorses, they say, those
those the best ones know the lights come on, they
feel the crowd, and those things just know when it's time. Man,
just make shorts Ode of racehorses, saying I need to
I won't make it. I'm just saying, just like just
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let you know. You know, that's a dicey proposition there.
Why they're bringing a tent out on to the track.
It is I'll kicked the coverage here on Fox Sports Radio.
This this is I'll kick the coverage. So there's a
story in the NFL. I don't know if it's a deal.
I mean, I've never been named this, I've never been
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given this award, so I'm not sure if it's a
big deal. But it could be. And it's involving a
quarterback with a lot to prove this upcoming season. We'll
get into that here coming up just a couple of
moments from now. It is outkicked the coverage here Fox
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on fs are um. Now, I don't know if this
is a big deal. I've never actually been named a
team captain in any capacity whatsoever. Never once, because in
high school football, you gotta actually play, from my understanding,
in order to uh to still be a team captain.
Long shot. Yeah, but but when you're awful, long shot,
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that is the longest of Yeah. And that's that's a
first for everything in my life. But I'll just say
this could always with a high ceiling. Yeah, I mean
that's a good point. Yes, that that is a good point.
I didn't think about it. He showed a lot of
off the field leadership, yes, a lot of incentives. He's
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got some credentials and I don't. But that being said,
so we're gonna buch your us today like whoa, whoa whoa, bro,
you're not playing speaking on your behalf. Um so to
a tug of Iloa has got a lot to prove
going into year two as an NFL quarterback. And I
don't know if this is if I'm just reading too
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much into this, but he wasn't named a team captain
all right now, Trevor Lawrence was named team captain. He's
never played a snap in the NFL. He was named
I mean, um, I mean, look like before you even
go into where every team does it differently. I don't
know how Brian Flores and his staff concocted this, uh,
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And I don't know what LaVar thinks, but a lot
of times, like even if the players voted, the coaches
are gonna do what they want to do. Um, So
I'll put it that way, like I don't know that
everyone voted Trevor Lawrence as the captain how that all went,
But he's the starting quarterback, like they're they're gonna make
him that guy even if he hasn't earned it yet
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or he's not the guy yet. None of that matters.
What's significant about it if he's not is the fact
that it's just one less thing where it's less awkward
if they were to bench him or move on from
him right like let's say, for example, before the trade deadline,
they make a move for Deshaun Watson, like it looks
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it looks less awkward it right, if you're if you've
got that guy who's captain and you've got to talk
about and all the stuff. But if that, if that
situation was to play itself out, it's just a little
bit less awkward, right to then throw the sea on
that guy's chest. So I'm sure there's some Dolphin fans
who want to see him earn it, that the coaching
staff may say they want to see him earn it,
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maybe some teammates if that's how they voted. But um,
I I just I look at this and I say
it's not overly surprising considering how Brian Flores has handled
things so far with tua And you know, even though
he's come out and said he's our guy, he's our guy,
it's just it still seems like until the trade deadline
and even after the season, like I, I still think
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there's the potential chance of them doing something if they
don't feel confident enough, and when what he brings well,
you ultimately have to look at at this team and
the scenarios that could play out for tua Um being
connected ultimately to them, wanting to take a definitive step
in in the direction of this is a division that's
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up for grabs right now. I mean we can say
that it you know, it's it's the Bill's time and
they're going to dominate, and we're probably right, but it's
still considered to be a division that's a for grabs.
So when you think about how close the Miami Dolphins
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could be right now to what it is they're able
to to get accomplished, if they're not confident in the
most important piece to that puzzle being able to deliver,
then you would have to believe that they're being very,
very aggressive behind the scenes trying to figure out how
they conrectify that problem as quickly as they possibly can.
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I just know this, when you hear a lot of
speculation about something, whether it's true, there's some truth to
it there. That's This is what I've learned in media.
If you continue, you to hair something that is along
the lines of this is the storyline that continues to
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march forward. Mac Jones could be the starter. Did you
just guys see how much that picked up? Mac Jones
could be the starter? When will mac Jones start? Ken
Cam Newton maintained the position. A lot of people are
frustrated about the whole CAM and COVID thing, data DA data,
what wherever the truth was and all of that. It
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ended out playing out that mac Jones ended up being
the undisputed starter for this team. So the idea that
you continue to hear things about Tah and how okay
there has been the support that has been given to
him from Flora as he comes out. We like character guys.
He gave him a glow and endorsement of the type
of guys they want in Miami. But then Bill Belichick,
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which isn't that where the coaching tree that Flores comes from.
Didn't Belichick kind of do the same thing with Cam?
He was he was a champion of Cam and and
next thing you know, Cam isn't on the team. So
I think you could take what coaches say at face value.
I think he does believe what he's saying about to
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A and I think he does represent him well uh
in that regard. But if there's somebody that's gonna make
the Dolphins a better team and gives Floria as an
opportunity to take over that division that's up for grabs,
which he has a team that's good enough to be
able to take the bull by the horns, so to speak.
Then you gotta believe that if a Deshaun Watson is available,
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that there, and if they're working on that right now
they're trying to figure out if that trade takes place.
You have to assume that Miami felt comfortable and confident
that Deshaun Watson would come in and be ready to
play pretty much the moment he sets foot in in
South Beach. Here's what I don't get though, is you
drafted to UH like he didn't have to. You could
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have even traded back and you could have gotten more
picks for a team that I think was viewed in
a rebuilding year or at least in that mode, Like
you didn't have to take him, and they still ended
up taking him with the injury concerns and everything else.
Like that's what I don't understand about them not buying
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into two A and and how they handled things last
year with them, Like you supposedly had done all this
evaluation on the player, you've seen him play. It's not
like he hadn't been at the college level for a
number of years and you couldn't dig up information on him,
and yet you still decided to pull the trigger on him.
And then yet well you have buyer's remorse already. I mean,
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after after a year, we're like statistically looking at it
and even watching some of the tape, Like I understand
some of the concerns, but he's a rookie, Like, you
can't compare his learning to curve the Justin Herbert. Justin
Herbert was a four year starter at Oregon. He played
his entire career true freshman. All that was from Eugene.
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I mean, it's an entirely different set of circumstances. And
mind you, you know, Herbert played his best football as
last year, but he never made it to the stage
that TUA did, playing a national championship and the SEC
and all those matchups we we saw. So I just
I think it's just odd to me that they would
so quickly want to move on from a guy that
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the same coach, the same general manager. That's there, you
made the decision, like you already, you already are gonna
be second guessing this dude. Give him a chance. We
got my bead, Like, let me try to I'm not crazy,
right now, guys, listen, just and if they walk away
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from him after first of all, he came off the
injury last year was a devastating injury. Comes off the injury,
it's it's a OVID years. So it's not like everybody
had the exact proper times to get prepared for a season.
And you know, he didn't play that bad. He wasn't
He wasn't justin everybody wasn't that bad. If they walk
away from all of that after a year for some
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guy who's got twenty two plus complaints for going to
the grab lab and they want to bring him as
their franchise quarterback, and they to me that that is
a that's a gutsy, gutsy call, And I just I mean,
if I'm to at this point, man, get the hell
out of there, man, Like I mean, if if they're
not going to show faith in you in a regular
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season game, I understand, but like you can't like get
the hell out of there, is like kind of like
how do you force your way out? Like I think
the way you get the hell out of there is
about playing well or if by them bringing into Shawn
Watson and then he's gone, well, that's not getting the
hell out of there. You're getting kicked the hell out
of there. I mean, but at this point, like differ,
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every everything is telling him it's like the lee in
the club and get kicked out of the club. Yeah,
but you know what, it depends on what handles that
two completely different, completely, sir. We'd like to help you
to your car. Thank you, worried when you get away
you're kicked out. It's like choke. Yeah, there is no
conversation dragging you ass, shut up. Yeah, it's just it's
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just very different. Yeah, it is, you know it's yeah,
it is. It is very different here. Um yeah, absolutely definitely, LaVar.
I'm glad you see glad you see the same TV.
I don't know what you're talking about either, but man,
what's the weather like out there? You know it's raining?
Z's that's what it is? Uh, all right to Hey,
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we want to get into our our wild card picks.
You guys ready to start to throw it out some
wild card picks? Yeah them again. We've got three wild
card picks in the a f C at n FC.
Brady Quinn, you're our leadoff here are here on out
kicked the coverage, Go right ahead, sir. Let me start
off by saying this. I was shocked. Like again, I
went through this whole thing. I went through week by week,
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game by game, shocked and how this turned out. In fact,
I'll tell you right now, I don't like it, all right,
I but I but I did this. I went through
every week of the season, every matchup, and this is
how it came out. I got the Steelers, in Browns,
A tenant seven, neither of which are making the playoffs.
I know, I don't feel good about it. And so
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uh one of the playoff teams is coming out of
the a f C East. That's the New England Pages
to the eleven and six. I don't like it. I
don't think they're gonna be a wild card team. I don't.
I think it's gonna be Pittsburgh, Cleveland or maybe both
those teams. But again, I I just for the for
the sake of this show, I want to stay true
to you guys. So I've got the Patriots, the Chargers,
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who had a great season by my thirteen and four,
and then the Broncos at eleven and six, which I
think they could be because I'm I'm betting, I'm my
man Teddy be because they gotta stacked roster. But those
are my three teams, the Patriots charges in Broncos. I'm
I'm a bit surprised, to be honest with you, though,
and I don't feel great about it. Interesting. I'm gonna
go with the three Bees is my wild card teams.
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I'm gonna go with the Cleveland Browns. I think their
roster they're two stacked. I like Baker Mayfield. I don't
think he's a top five or ten quarterback, but clearly
he can play. But I like the Cleveland Browns. I
have them getting in over the Pittsburgh Steelers. I just
there's still question marks for me when it comes to Pittsburgh.
I've also got the Buffalo Bills being a wild card team.
Now you're probably asking yourself what builds a wild card team? Well,
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if you want to know who won the division, you
can check out the podcast at Fox Sports radio dot
com because it will be thereof after the show is over.
And then I too have the Denver Broncos getting that
final wild card spot. I like the Chargers. I like
the Chargers a lot. But here we go again. Austin Eckler,
some sort of little issue pops up at practice yesterday
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and I just wonder if we're gonna see a little
bit of a sophomore slump and maybe Justin Herbert isn't
the Justin Herbert everybody thinks he's going to be this
year because of the crowds and because of being in
pack stadiums. I wonder if that's going to be an issue.
So I like the Browns, Bills and Broncois, and he's
used to the Pact twelve pactwel football where no one's
there because they play in That was it the Pack
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twelve championship game? How many people were there? Like you
and Joe Davis called the game? Where was it? That
was like an annual thing for us. Yeah, we were
like trying to give away tickets before the game. I've
been walking around trying to give it away to people here.
Please please come to the game. Please. You could sit
right there way there, next to the field. Please come
to bring your empty seat costume too. You can blend
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right up with everybody else. So there it is. My
wild card picks labar are sticks with picks. Yeah, man,
I'm I'm gonna go with the Titans. I'm gonna go
with the Dolphins, and I'm gonna go with the Ravens team. Alright,
so you think the Dolphins, that team with a quarterback
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not named team captain, is gonna be the It's gonna
be a wild card. I think they're a good team,
and I think that they are again, I think that
they're a team that will be competitive for for the division.
I think they'll keep up. So I had them at
nine and eight. But you know what the difference was
what they weren't a wild card team for me, I
hadn't to and for in the division. So that's where
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you and I differ. I think the Patriots will be
better this year, and obviously the Bill is gonna be good.
But I think that's the difference for them is if
they do better in the vision, like you think, they're
probably a wild card team with the way I ended up.
By the way, why is it fair that Brady gets
to use some playoff predictor things? I said it to
you guys, send it, but just feel like my my
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mind kind of yeah, I agree, I agree, In fact
it's different. In fact, they should have a brain for
the playoff predictor. You know you'll see Hamster willbals deals
and Hamsters get this is this is LaVar stock processing works.
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I can go seek for some people when it comes
to those props. You see the little balls going down,
the little things all the way, making it all the
way to the bottom, the little silver ball. Based on
some of the other stuff, we said each other, that's
not to far off, you guys, remember that gag called
what was it? Where you you pull the thing back
and you shoot the ball into the pinball machine. That's
how my that's how my mind works. Man. I get
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thoughts coming towards me. I hit the side, I got
my little flippers, boom. I got a couple of extra
flippers higher up on. Yeah right, I'm going for the
high school school. And I was terrible at pinball. Where
are you really don't know where you are? Where you
guys valent pinball players or where you just like just
straight strategic life. I was more of a golden tea
guy like gold golden. But what I'm saying is like valent.
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Valent pinball machine players are the ones that shake the
pinball machine. Like some people are very courtous, heart to see,
driven like they'll just hit hit the thing data. But
some people are like and they shake it and they
shake it and they shake it and it's I mean,
I don't you guys, I don't know if you're really
into working out or anything. But in between games, I
used to lift the pinball machine up to get some
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did you did you ever keep hitting your flippers knowing
that the ball had already gone down and probably was over,
But in some weird, strange way, you thought that there
might be an extra ball, so you kept hitting the
flippers because you knew the flippers would stop once your
turn was over, like once your game was over. Yeah,
that's what that charge your security guard was doing on
the sidelines. A yeah, two ball corner. Po It is
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Just to lock in, we're gonna have some fun with that.
But right now, Albert Brier mm QB, senior NFL reporter
joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Albert, Happy NFL
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season to you and yours. It's finally here. Yeah, and
I don't know what the hell was going on. There
was only stuff they sell in stables or something like that. Yeah,
it was. It was an office materials. Uh, yeah it was.
It was an awful bottom of the hour update, is
what it was. Let's just call it that. Okay. So
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I gotta ask you, so Patrick, certain real deal in Denver? Yeah,
I mean I think all indications are that he's come
as advertised, and um, you know, I think the physical ability.
Everybody knows, you know, what he's bringing to the table there.
It's just how quick he's picked up the defense. And
I guess you'd expect that from a guy who you
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know as the son of a former All Pro corner
um and played for Nick Saban at Alabama. But um,
that's a complex defense, tough defense to playing on the
vic Fangio runs there in Denver and the fact that
they're able to move him around um as much as
they have been already as a rookie. I think it's
been eye opening for some people there. And so you know,
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the Broncos are setting up as an interesting team. The
quarterbacks obviously still a question, but they have a lot
going for them in a lot of different places. And
you know, not to spend this thing too far ahead,
but if you look at them, it's not that far
off from where they were, you know. I mean, Brady,
you'll remember this because you're on the team in eleven
when they had a lot of like good young players
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coming together and it really set up for Peyton Manning
to step in in two thousand and twelve where Denver
could wind up being a really attractive destination for an
Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson in two. Well,
that's why I was gonna lead to next because we
know this about the Deshaun Watson situation in Houston. He's
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not playing week one to Rod Taylor's a starter, He's
probably not gonna be active. Nickissario, the general manager, saidy,
they're gonna take you a week by week. What's your
guests as far as how this plays out? Does he
stay on the roster for the rest of the season,
do they trade him before the deadline? How do you
foresee this thing working out? Yeah, Brady, I think if
somebody was going to pay the market price, um, they
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would have paid it by now. And I think if
the Texans we're gonna take any sort of discount, they
were taking the discount by now. So I think, really,
you know, this is sort of in a holding pattern
until there's some clarity from you know, the league and
some clarity um from the legal system. And I mean,
look like I'm not going to litigate innocence or guilt.
I don't know, you know, I like, I mean that
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that's gonna have to play itself out. And I mean,
I think one thing that's sort of interesting here is.
You know. My understanding is like there was a i'd say,
like a reasonable um you know, settlement, Like there's a
reasonable reasonable idea of a settlement out there. And my
understanding of the way that that all went down with
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the Shawn really wanted to kind of what really wanted
to prove his innocence. And if that's the truth and
he really doesn't want to settle, this is gonna take
a long time, you know. And if this thing is
hung up in the course through the season, I don't
know that any team is gonna step up with a
sort of offer that the Texans um are going to
what accept din. I just haven't gotten any sort of
(38:02):
indication whatsoever that nickos Saria is gonna take anything less
than what he would have gotten in January or February
before the lawsuits were filed to move to Shawn Watson.
What what are you working on? What are what's what's
the most relevant story you're working on right now as
it applies to the league storylines, because there there are
so many that are developing. What what do you think
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is the most relevant? I mean, I just think LaVar
the unsettled, the kind of like unsettled situation of quarterbacking
across the NFL. Um to me, that's really what it is.
And you know, I can't remember a season when we
went in where you know, you had superstar quarterbacks and
there was such huge questions on where they're gonna be
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um the following year, you know. And it's not like
we knew like you know, I mean, we had an
idea like that Brady could move on from the Patriots,
but I don't know that people really thought that was
as real as it was going into the nineteen season.
And like Peyton Man and we, I don't think anybody
thought he is not going to be a cult in
two thousand and twelve and two thousand and eleven, and
so like, I think the fact that you got the
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Shawn's name out there, the fact that you got Aaron's
name out there, the fact that Russell Wilson's situation could
um go back to where it was again last January
this January. I just think that that makes this so
interesting because so many of these I think quarterback situations
couldn't look different a year from now, and so many
of them look different now than they did past year.
Where you got Carson Wentzon Indianapolis, Sam Donald and Carolina,
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obviously Matthew Stafford in Los Angeles. So I just think
LaVar the biggest story in the league right now is
how unsettled the quarterback situation is. And if you want
to take it to kind of a broad strokes level,
like why all this is happening, I honestly believe that,
like a big part of it is sort of the
Mahometization of the NFL, where a lot of teams are
looking at the quarterbacks that have made it to the
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final stages um and you know, you look at Josh
All and Buffalo, Tom Brady and Tampa, Um, you know
Patrick and Kansas City the last couple of years, and
obviously Aaron in Green Day. I think a lot of
teams are looking at that and saying, like, can we
really climb the mountain with the quarterback we have? And
so I think that's why you've seen teams like the
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Niners start to move off with Jimmy Garoppolo, like l
a move off of Jared Goff. I think it's just
the bars raising at the position, and I think that's
created sort of an unsettled environment across the NFL. Albert Brier,
senior NFL reporter for the MMQB, joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio. Jonas knoxol Bar Arrington Brady quip with
you here on fs are what do you what do
(40:33):
you think happens with t J. Watt situation with the Steelers.
I mean, look like so like I always think like
it's always darkest before the dawn. Um, with these contract situations.
So you know, I think there's gonna have to be
some level of compromise. The Steelers have really strict rules
about what they do with contracts. They were willing to
(40:56):
bend those rules for Ben Roethlisberger years ago. Um, they
set at the time we're doing this because it's the quarterback.
We won't do it for anyone else. I think they're
gonna have to bend a little bit um to get
t J. Watt done. At the same time, I think
t J. Watson have to come off his spot a
little bit um. You know. It's just it's one of
these where you know, I think, like the deadline of
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Saturday could wind up getting the sides to find some
level of middle ground. And the Steelers have been here before.
You know, They've got David Decast done right on the
day before the season. They got Stephan to it done
right on the day before the season. They got Troy
Paula Mallow in two thousand and eleven done right on
the day before the season. So I think there's a
(41:39):
chance Friday or Saturday you're hearing about t J. Watt
getting a deal done. But I would say that it's
gonna take a fair amount of compromise from both sides
to get there, because I don't think they're that close
right now, Albert, Are you concerned it all that to
a song of Vlow is not a captain down there
in Miami. I mean, it's it's gonna be an interesting
matchup just to contrast where Matt Jones is year one
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in New England. Uh, and those two teams squaring off.
But does that concern you? Does that lead you to
think that, hey, maybe something may happen down the road
this season? I'm yeah, I mean I I'd be at
least a little concerned, right, I mean, like, like, look
like let's call it what it is, um, you know,
like I think in a lot of cases, like coaches
will make their quarterbacks captain if there's any way to
(42:21):
do it, right, Like, so like, say you want five
captains in the quarterbacks, the six leading volt getter. I
think a lot of cases that coach will say, all right,
well we're going with six captains then, you know, because
you want your quarterback to feel the way to that,
you know, leadership. And I like, I look in New
York and Zack Wilson's a captain as a rookie, and
I look in Jacksonville and Summer Lawrence as a captain
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as a rookie. So I mean we can explain it away.
Like however you want to explain it away, I think
it's at least a little like I I got my attention.
I know that what do you think, Brady, because you
were a quarterback, I got my attention that he's not
one because I would think like a four on to
throw with support behind the guy Like then like you
find yeah, I think, I think, But yeah, I think
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I think that would be one way that my quick
answer to would be. You know, he could say whatever
he wants to behind the scenes privately to the team,
but that would be one way. But I also know
that maybe he wants him to earn that, you know,
maybe he feels like it hasn't been earned. Yet there's
that New England culture there that's the only wild card
that I don't know. But to your point, and we
mentioned this earlier and Lavard knows this, like if the
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coaching staff wants to be a captain, you're gonna be
a captain. Especially at the NFL level. It ain't college
where they're actually gonna have these all these players vote
like none of that matters, right, right, And I just
I don't know, like I would think, you know, And
I think like one thing that like one thing I
know about Belichick and I think I think Flow is
the same way like they those guys always sort of
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have an idea of what their team needs. And you know,
I I know this with Bill, Like a lot of
people have this idea of Bill and like the guys
who work with him is like just being tough on
people all the time him, right, And I think one
of the things that Bill does well is and again
I think Flow is the exact same y Am, Miami
is like they know when a guy needs to be
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knocked down, and they know when a guy needs to
be picked up a little bit, and they know when
they need to, you know, put a guy in his place.
And they know when they need to elevate a guy.
And I just like, look at where Tua is and
after having such a weird first year and then you know,
going into year two and on the doorstep of his
second year, he's finally the starter and they finally and
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they and I think they got rid of Fitzpatrick in
part because they didn't want that hanging over to uh,
like he's finally there and now like he's got an
answer for this. So I just I don't know, I
just it just kind of struck me as a little
strange and it made me wonder if something's going on now.
I haven't heard that there is, but you know, I
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I would think that like just having a feel for
the situation, I would think if you're Flores, you would
want to try to build the guy up a little
bit based on everything he has been through and show
confidence in him to do the rest of the locker room. Uh,
we're talking about quarterbacks and obviously mac Jones being the
starter in in New England, what's the probability of them
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being able to win their division with a rookie quarterback.
I think Buffalo is gonna be really good, So, like
I might be the wrong person to ask on that, LaVar.
It's just because I have Buffalo on the super Bowl,
so like the Patriots, failing the win of the division,
to me wouldn't be a failure. I mean, I I like,
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I I just I think that much of where Josh
Allen is um going into going into year uh you
joining the year four. I I know, like what the
league thinks of him. You know, I'm doing a poll
um of and right now I've got sixty ballots back.
It's like head coaches, general manager's, offensive coordinators, quarterbacks, coaches director.
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As a player of personnel, Shallen is a very solid
third right now among all quarterbacks in that pole, behind
only Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes, ahead of Tom Brady. UM.
So I think they're I think Buffalo is in for
a very big year. Um. But I think the Patriots,
like to me, the formulas right there for them, And
you know, I think we're all focused on on on
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on Mac and what Matt can do. I think so
much of this is going to be how the rest
of the team can lift him up and what the
formula is. And the formula to me is the same
as it was in two thousand and one when Brady
was the starter for the first time. It's keep him
out of long distance or keep him out of long
yardage situations consistently. Don't have them playing from behind, and
they have the tools to do that because, like I
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look at it, once they get Steph Gilmore back in October,
I think they've got a chance to be an elite defense.
I think they've got a top five offensive line, and
they've got a really good tale back in Damian Harris,
and so all the tools are there to take the
pressure off him and play the game a certain way
where he isn't in third and fifteen and he isn't
playing from two or three touchdowns down. I think that's
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gonna be the formula for them this year. And I
think if they dropped mac Jones into that sort of scenario,
it'll sort of mirror what he had at Alabama, get
him feeling more comfortable. I think that would be a
good way to get him rolling. He is Albert Brier,
mm QB senior NFL reporter, always kind enough to join
us here on Fox Sports Radio, get him on Twitter
at Albert Breer. Albert always appreciate it, man. We'll do
(47:23):
it again next week. Thanks big all right, thanks all right,
thanks guys. And I got to apologize for last week.
I was a little hazy, so hopefully this one a
little better for you guys. I like last week better.
I like last week better, but a little frisky. If
if you if you guys want, if you guys want
last week back, I can maybe I can accommodate that. Yeah,
(47:46):
a little a little breer on the rocks. That's all right,
good stuff. We'll talk to you suit. He's he's one
of the best. Albert Brier here on Fox Sports Radio.
Be sure to catch live editions about kick the coverage
weekdays at six I'm eastern three am Pacific. Here we go,
Here we go. I've got to tell you something that's
(48:07):
pretty okay. Yes, it's like sooth it you just see
uh Jonas playing the drums. Hilarious, then drums, it's good.
And it goes whoa Jonas is playing the air drum. Whoa,
he's got a highlighter in front of me. Jonas, did
(48:32):
you did you play other instruments or did you just
say yeah, you can play drums A little bit? Little
goes to I got playing Yeah, Roberto, there it is
squeeze that one? Is it? The last half hours have
been weird enough on this show, but let's make some more,
you know, some more crank jokes on Morning Crime. That'll
(48:53):
play well? It is it is. Don't getting the coverage
here on Fox Sports. We are going to have our
Super Bowl picks coming up later on in the segment here,
But right now it is time for something we do
on the show, guys, and it's called this How could
you not get to? These stories? Are the scraps? And
(49:16):
for that we turn it over to Danny g Our,
executive producer, to find out what the hell we've missed
so far on the show. Deep all right? Tiger Tiger Woods, y'all.
He is not going to be one of Steve Stricker's
assistants at the Ryder Cup, but the US captain hinted
around that Woods could be back on a golf course.
Speaking to Sirius XM Radio yesterday, Stricker for the first
(49:38):
time suggested that the fifteen time Major champion might try
to play golf again. He says, I've talked to Tiger
a lot. He's part of the Ryder Cup family. Is
not going to be able to be a captain's assistant
this time around, just because of his ongoing rehab to
try to get better and to play golf again. And
that's going well. He's progressing. He's doing very good. Things
(50:00):
are moving in the right direction. No big surprise though, right,
like what we know about Tiger, we knew he was
gonna try to get back on the cart on the course.
I mean, what's the point he came back in one
of May. He's trying to motivated. He's not motivated by
like Santa Galle, Tom Pratty do it at his age.
You don't think that motivates him. He's trying to get
(50:20):
that record. You have a Tom Brady didn't fall asleep
at the wheel of a car and and and spin
it six times. Oh yeah, that's right. He was only
blacked out drunk on a boat and around the w party. Yeah,
but he was wearing an Eastly if he game prepared,
that is true. He was prepared to party. He was prepared.
If you run east when you go out to party,
(50:42):
you're going all the ready, right, turn on Don Joy
and we go partying. Brady. So I saw I saw
Christiano Ronaldo at the club one time with a Don
Joy on him like bros. Just taking night. Hi. I
love Don Joys managing Don Joys. I'm good enough. All right.
We've talked sports memorabilia before during the scraps. This is
(51:05):
an all time low. A sports website announced that a
pair of Michael Jordan's underwear with signs of definite use,
is being auctioned with a starting bid of five dollars.
What sort of official use? This sort of official They'll
get to it here in the story. I give you,
(51:25):
I'll give you some officially. Yeah. This memorabilia website lands
formerly belonged to the legendary Bulls player and is being
sold by a family member of John Michael wosni Act,
Jordan's former security guard. The website says the unusual item
shows signs of definite use and has some loose threads
(51:47):
evident at the seams. Leland's says the underwear was one
of several items gifted to Woes the Act from Jordan's.
He also received suits, ties, belts, and jackets that were
worn by the legend. Bidding closes septem all right, see,
I thought we were going to go like the direction
of you know, you can tell he had wrapped up
(52:08):
like a baby ruth in that. That's that's what I was.
Anybody's seen that three Musketeers there it is I that
would have been way funnier. Yeah, I just I mean
you ever you ever bought underwear to spa? The whole
(52:29):
thing is weird. Well, the whole thing is weird. But
I remember I bought underwear to store and the guy's like,
just so you know, you can't return these? Like yeah, man,
someone described the guy who bits on them, like like
is he just like living in a basement somewhere and
he doesn't have any social life, Like who wants to
actually announce that they've been in one that particular item? Weird?
(52:50):
Somebody somebody bought Andre the Giants jock strap. Yeah, I
mean it's weird. That's because they're using it as a
handbag and maybe somebody believes that can fly. And then yeah,
(53:12):
by the way, uh you know Andre the Giant and
the Dead a winner. It looks like, you know, he's
writing the statue of Liberty. I mean, it's just like
he is a I just I'm just saying, you know,
like it's it's very uh you know, he's a big guy.
He's a very big guy. You know, he's just he's
a huge man. Have you seen the picture of him
moving the beer? Have you seen the beer next to
his hand? And his short can go down? Weird. I'm
(53:33):
just saying it's so weird. And I really and I
really tried to get a mental visual of the Statue
of Liberty and and here. Okay, okay, if you've seen
how big he is, Okay, yeah, there's a beer. There's
a beer can in his hand. It looks tiny. Yeah,
ok so that that's the point. That was a good point. Job, glad,
(53:57):
we way to get us there? You here the one
bringing up Jockstrap. I did bring up someone I blame.
You've already had two guys there to help him put
it on too, by the like, why do you have
to take us down there? You're gonna take us down
the road? Where? What was the bathroom? Can? We can
(54:18):
we get the can we get the can we get
the super Bowl picks? Here? On the season preview show? Here, guys,
so let's get the super Bowl picks in. He's our
leadoff man. He is the great and powerful TV star
Brady Quinn. He's so mad at me right now. Okay,
(54:39):
I've got in the a f C, the Bills and
Chiefs scoring off in the a f C Championship Game.
It's gonna be a close game, maybe one of the
more entertaining, But I've got the Chiefs winning home, just
another Super Bowl appearance for the Kansas City Chiefs. And
then in the NFC, I've got the Packers they're the
await scene, the number one seeded Buccaneers they're squaring off,
(55:02):
and I've got the Buccaneers winning once again, ruining what
could be the last dance for Aaron Rodgers at a
rematch of this past year Super Bowl. I know it's boring,
but look, these are the two best teams. I'm gonna
go with chalk right now, and I'm sure it's hell
not betting against Tom Brady. Interesting. Nothing ever goes as planned.
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That's just how this all works out. Just it just
doesn't go as plan. I mean a few times you
could say, all right, Buffalo or the Rams, or you know,
even right now what you're dealing with with um who
just went in Kansas City. But I just don't see
either one of them making it back. I don't be
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so negative here. I mean, I'm not trying to be negative.
I'm just trying to keep two people. That's what we
think is gonna happen, and so then when it does happen,
it's a kind of a surprise. I must think that,
and you're probably right. Honestly speaking, you're probably right. But
I'm just thinking this year, I just I really have
different teams going. I think out of out of the NFC,
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I think Green Bay does make it to the super
Bowl this year, and out of the the a f C.
I honestly feel like, for some strange reason, looking at
this Baltimore Ravens team, their defense is pretty stutely. I
think Lamar Jackson has a confidence about him that is
almost scary and like have you figured me out? Like
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you haven't figured me out? That's like that wait until
you get a load of me from the Joker type stuff.
I'm going with Baltimore. I think Baltimore has a serious
chance of making it back to the super Bowl, and
and I think that they will meet uh Green Bay.
See I like that. I like that. Okay, that was
my pick. I literally had Ravens over the Packers. Now
I don't know if I should have the same pick
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as babar Ant, like we gott Yeah, we gotta go different.
I feel like we gotta go different here. So I'm
it's funny because I do think that the Ravens, if
they do make it to the super Bowl, will beat
the Packers. If the Packers make it there, I'll tell
you what, all right, I don't want to have the
same pick as LaVar Arrington's. I want us to, uh
you know, have a different rooting interests here on the show.
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I'm gonna say the Baltimore Ravens over the San Francisco
forty Niners, that will be my super light pick. But
if that's wrong and it ends up being the Packers,
I just wanted on the record that I was going
to say, and I'm writing it down right on the rock.
I write it down right now, so so clear the
Rams there, No one's picking the Rams, not picking the Ramps.
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I'm not. I don't think I'm I'm not. I think
they'll be all right. In the words of Rob park
I'm not bet no step Patford. In the words of
Rob Parker. So again, now we will be back tomorrow
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because guys, it's back. The NFL is back. It is
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all those dreadful sporting events we had to sit through
for the past few months, but we are Finally here,
while everybody fake talks how excited they are about US
men's soccer, we move all that garbage to the side
and we focus on the NFL any other sport damn right. Yeah,
I mean we're always faking and let's just football. That's
It's a football country's country. Yeah, I mean, it's only
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excitement when it's football season. Now, I'm tired of hearing
about these other sports. You don't matter. Other sports, you
don't It's football. It's America culture. We cancel everything. You're
not allowed behind the velvet ropes, stand in line with
the rest of the common folk. You're not allowed in
this club. Yeah. How's that for dismissing a bunch of
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other people to make a ton of money. Now here's
the here's what I would point. I don't I don't
know what it's like. And you guys are gonna tell
game day stories. As a player, I will. I'll just
say this as somebody who never played in the league
has loved football's entire life. The first game of the season,
do you know how unproductive tomorrow morning is going to
be for so many people that are watching that game tonight.
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I mean, they will either call out sick or get
nothing done. This is Christmas, man, and and this really
is the first gift you get to open. And then Sunday,
when all the other gifts are under the tree, you
just get to open all this. I've got a theory
on this, Jonah. I'm telling you man. You guys have traveled, right,
I mean, before you traveled, you've been to Europe. You
know how like they have a completely different lifestyle over
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there where, Like they'll just take a couple of months off,
Like they will take their holiday as they call it,
or vacation, and they will go somewhere for like a
month at a time, sometimes two months at a time.
I mean, I'll put it this way. But in some
places they're living like they are enjoying life. Meanwhile over
here we are grinding. We grind, baby, It's America. That's
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what we do here. We grind. But to Jonas point,
if you add up all those days following the first
game of the NFL season, Mondays, after long Sundays in
the NFL, or after a long weekend of football, if
you like college and NFL, have you started adding up
some of those quote unquote sick days off days. That's
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gonna add up to about a month or so. We
we do it the same thing. We just had to
take them spread out and it happens to the following
around American football. Do you okay, do you guys find
yourself now now that you you're out of the league
and you can look at it from a different vantage point,
do you guys find yourself appreciating more of the fan
aspect of things? Or when you when you get to today,
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you immediately go back in a game day mode and
you just start thinking like a player, like first game
day experience, getting ready for the season, first ever debut,
Like how do you how do you handle that psychologically?
You know, for me, I'm a fan first, so so
I've always approached everything from a fan first perspective. So
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the fans have always mattered to me. Um, how I
approached the game has always mattered to me because I
know the players who came before me. I knew the
players that were playing at the same time as me,
So it was always like a badge of honor. Like
like which said, I never played in in in the
pros before. It's like I made it to the Pros.
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But I always approached things like the guy that didn't
make it to the pros, you know, as always like always,
like when I walked around, you see a kid, you know,
a quick story. When I was when I was younger,
my heroes were high school players, high school football, high
school basketball. They were the most like they stood out
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to me. They were the most intriguing to me. And
my favorite player. I remember one time my dad took
me to a playoff game to see them in a
basketball playoff game. We get to to the we get
to the arena and I see him standing because they
you know, you have tournament style playoff games, you know,
once you get to the playoffs, and they're sitting in
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the bleachers waiting for the game before them to get
to the third quarter so they could go change for
their game. I run off on my dad because I
see my guy. He's like, he doesn't know me, and
he doesn't know that he's my guy, but that's my guy.
So I go running up to him and he blows
me off. Dude, blew me off. I won't say his name,
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but because we're actually friends, were actually friends now twitter hand.
So so he blows me off and and and my
Dad's like, you know whoa you know, he finally catches
up and he sees the exchange taking place and do
with like basically like, can you just leave me alone
and let me, you know, watch the game and like
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get my mind right for the game type stuff. And
my dad was like, man, you couldn't you know, take
a moment or sign an autograph for him? And I
stopped my dad. I was like, you know, don't worry
about that. I was like, one thing I'll never do, Dad,
is be like him if I ever make it. And
I pointed at him and when I said it and
go figure like all those years later, I think I
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was in Like heck, I don't know. I had to
been in either at the end of grade school, probably
at like my fifth grade year. It's either my fifth
grade year or my sixth grade year of school. But
I remember telling my dad looked my dad in my eyes,
I was like that, I'll never be like that. So
for me, when I when I watched football and I
approached football, it's like I can't do it as a
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civilian because my mind is always breaking down the XS
and ose of it, so it's it's very difficult to
watch as a normal civilian. But I never have stopped
watching it as a fan either. So it's like I
enjoy watching guys. I enjoy knowing who they are. I
enjoy you know, the stories behind them, the side stories
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and all that stuff. So it's always has been exciting
for me in the same way, even if I was
in a state of competing versus just just trying to
watch it as a civilian that's retired. Now, yeah, listen,
well you know not everybody's a pride of Double Ohio. Right. Well,
I was gonna say, let let me give you the
the alternative point of view. So I are we going
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into like our first game now, is like I can
relate in some fashion to kind of lav Ore in
two senses, like as a player and then as just
kind of like a fan and kind of a young
kid who's like dream came true. Like I remember before
a week one, two thousand seven, We're playing the Pittsburgh Steelers,
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and I remember being in the locker room before the
game and like this, like overwhelming emotions came over me,
like I don't I can't describe it. I don't know why.
It was just that moment when I kind of realized, like,
holy crap, man, you played in the NFL like you
did it. And I started thinking about my parents. I
started thinking about all the people my uncle Dave, my
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high school coach Greg Fry, who worked with me when
I was young. I started thinking about all the people
in my life that helped me get to that point,
and I just I became I was so overwhelmed with
like thankfulness. And I think I told you guys, like
from the youngest time, I grew up a Browns fan man,
like some of the memories, the only memories I have
of going to games with my grandpa was going to
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see the Browns, and so it like all hit me
in that moment when I put the helmet on we
started to walk out the tunnel. I'm like, dude, I'm
trying to fight back tears because it's just it was
so It's so seldom in my life that I took
a moment to realize like what was happening around me.
I was always the type of person that was more
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focused in on like what was going on, the situation
in the game, um my teammates, the scheme, whatever the
case was. I mean, from the youngest stage, my my
dad used to always ask me, are you having fun?
And used to be always so into it and want
to win so bad and so competitive that like I
never stopped to think about how cool it was. And
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I remember for the Pittsburgh Steelers game, like going out
of the tunnel and in the locker room beforehand, like
just those emotions and how it felt because there was
so much hard work and sacrificed by everyone evolved, including myself,
to get to that point. But uh, then the game started,
and then and then I was like, oh, snap, we're
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not very good, like like the Steelers are legit man,
Like we've been watching film, I've been hearing stories, I've
watched them for years, and I'm like, man, we got
some work to do with a bench. Charlie Fry at half,
Derrick Anderson goes into second half, I think he threw
a pick or two. And then now the reality hit
me as I'm I'm walking out of the stadium after
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the game, like, man, we're not very good. We turn
this thing around. And then they traded Charlie Fry that
next week now and now people are like, hey, you
might be starting. I was like, hell, yeah, give me
the raid, let's do this thing. Um. But which at
that point they gave it to Derrick Anderson, and since
Daty's defense was one of which then at least that
year you could throw on them a little bit. So
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that was the funny thing was we always kind of
felt like whoever got the start week two was gonna
be the start of the rest of the way. I
almost kind of apply it to like Florida State after
the Mackenzie Milton Jordan Travis situation this past Sunday, um,
because whoever gets to start this week versus was Jacksonville State.
I think they play they're gonna be the starter for
a while because they should be able to show out
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a little bit. But it was kind of like that,
you see, you were more emotional about walking out to
the field four game one than you were when you
got drafted. Yeah, and and and then part of that
might have to do with like how my draft they went,
not even like sliding to what I thought two. It
was more of like literally, dude, like we were sitting
in Roger Goodell's green room with my family having just
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crushed a bunch of Chipotle burritos, try to clean up
after ourselves, and they're like jerking me onto the stage
after I had spent some time talking to the Ravens,
and then it was the Browns that traded up with
like two minutes left, So it was like kind of chaotic,
to be honest, We're like people were trying to get
me up out of there and Archipotle probably get your
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family out of here. And that's why you were chewing
gum on on the stage, right. Yeah, I was like,
I can't be walking off stage with steak breathe. I
remember you got heat for that, dude, so I forget. Yeah,
he was upset. He didn't think it looked professional when
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Brady was chewing gum. He just said, Chipotle, Man, it's
like eating a sewer rat wrapped in a blanket. What
do you want from him? I'm just saying, like he's
gonna put some in. He's got all those prostate commercials
he does. He's he's good Heath. But but you know
I did because for whatever reason, I think how that
experience went and at that point, like you're you're getting drafted,
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like it's I don't know, you go through it the
first time. I don't know how with Harp when he
got drafted, but I was like, it wasn't it didn't
hit me then, like that's not football. Football is when
you like strap on the path, you strap everything on,
you get ready to go. And it was at that moment,
for whatever reason, and and maybe because you know, I
prayed before games and all that, where it was like
kind of just you know, one of those conversations where
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you're like this, this actually happened, man, Like you dreampt
about this all your life, this is actually happening that
I had one of those more I did. I cried
before every game. I put a towel over my head
like like it was kind of the coolest part at
a point in time in my career would it wouldn't
be my first time um going out, but just at
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one point in time in my career where I was
the leader, the captain of the team, had had you know,
a resume to to with with the respect the defensive
front and the linebackers. We had a routine. Everybody had
to routine. And as as routine wound wind wound up
and we got ready to go out, I would put
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a towel over my head like and they knew when
I put my towel over my head, I knew that
it was five minutes before it was time for us
to go out. For for a small amount of time,
I think about Peewee League football and and in the
uniform that I wore, and how how I used to
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freak out because I couldn't find my socks that where
team issued socks um that had the name of our
team on it. And I thought about like like my runs,
like different highlights from when I played Peewee League with
flashed through my head. My my, my loved ones, like
people that I went to school with, that somewhere in jail,
some have passed away, you know, my family, Like I ran,
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I ran everything through my head and that in that moment,
for about a minute or so, it seemed like an
eternity and I just cry. I just cry, like you motions,
the raw emotions of like this this all happened. Because
of all of this, I think about my Peee League coaches,
my high school coaches, like my teammates from from every
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Like I would think about my uncle's I would hear
random moments where I'd have an uncle out of game
and he'd be standing on the fence and he'd be like,
go Shorty. And that was my nickname growing up with shot,
my middle names were shot and my my my family
called me shoddy. So I just have random moments where
like go shorty, and I hear stuff that would take
me back to a place in a time, and I
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would just cry. Then once I wiped my face off,
I come up out of that towe and I grabbed
my helmet and everybody standing right there ready like ready
for me to get them the words before we walk
out and go onto the field for warm ups. And
now that's one of my most vivid memories is how
cool that was that they would be waiting like that
was like our routine, like I get my I get
my moment in. Once I grabbed ex Caliber, which was
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my helmet. You know, every ex I was dropping that handle.
It's like when you go into the mind of the
of a maniac, Like you know, we talked about how
you can't watch the game as a as a real
civilian grab ex Caliber. Bron who was and it was
the only only one dude could grab ex Caliber from
the lady of the lake, you know what I mean.
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So in the end, I put ex Caliber on and
it was time to go. Man, they knew it was
time to go. We knew it was time to go,
we go, you know. But that's that's football. Though you
want to talk about the energy and the excitement when
you're really in it, like when you're in it, like
as a as a civilian. It's funny because I get
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those moments and I get those feelings when I'm watching
my kids or kids play. But that feeling that you
get where your body knows that it's about to do
some crazy ish and and the way you start feeling
because it's funny. People used to always say you look
normal during the week. They're like, you look way different
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on game day. And there's honest, the God's true. I
would look like a normal dude during the week, but
when we were about to walk out and go onto
the field, warm up and do what we were doing,
I have veins popping out, like my my my muscles
look bigger, you know what I mean, Like your body,
like my body knew, like this dude is about to
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send us through hell. Let's go. That's like the racehorse.
By that's what they say, my racehorses, they say, those
those the best ones know the lights come on, they
feel the crowd, and those things just know when it's time. Man,
just make shorts Ode of racehorses, saying I need to
I won't make it. I'm just saying, just like just
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let you know. You know, that's a dicey proposition there.
Why they're bringing a tent out on to the track.
It is I'll kicked the coverage here on Fox Sports Radio.
This this is I'll kick the coverage. So there's a
story in the NFL. I don't know if it's a deal.
I mean, I've never been named this, I've never been
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given this award, so I'm not sure if it's a
big deal. But it could be. And it's involving a
quarterback with a lot to prove this upcoming season. We'll
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on fs are um. Now, I don't know if this
is a big deal. I've never actually been named a
team captain in any capacity whatsoever. Never once, because in
high school football, you gotta actually play, from my understanding,
in order to uh to still be a team captain.
Long shot. Yeah, but but when you're awful, long shot,
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that is the longest of Yeah. And that's that's a
first for everything in my life. But I'll just say
this could always with a high ceiling. Yeah, I mean
that's a good point. Yes, that that is a good point.
I didn't think about it. He showed a lot of
off the field leadership, yes, a lot of incentives. He's
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got some credentials and I don't. But that being said,
so we're gonna buch your us today like whoa, whoa whoa, bro,
you're not playing speaking on your behalf. Um so to
a tug of Iloa has got a lot to prove
going into year two as an NFL quarterback. And I
don't know if this is if I'm just reading too
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much into this, but he wasn't named a team captain
all right now, Trevor Lawrence was named team captain. He's
never played a snap in the NFL. He was named
I mean, um, I mean, look like before you even
go into where every team does it differently. I don't
know how Brian Flores and his staff concocted this, uh,
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And I don't know what LaVar thinks, but a lot
of times, like even if the players voted, the coaches
are gonna do what they want to do. Um, So
I'll put it that way, like I don't know that
everyone voted Trevor Lawrence as the captain how that all went,
But he's the starting quarterback, like they're they're gonna make
him that guy even if he hasn't earned it yet
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or he's not the guy yet. None of that matters.
What's significant about it if he's not is the fact
that it's just one less thing where it's less awkward
if they were to bench him or move on from
him right like let's say, for example, before the trade deadline,
they make a move for Deshaun Watson, like it looks
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it looks less awkward it right, if you're if you've
got that guy who's captain and you've got to talk
about and all the stuff. But if that, if that
situation was to play itself out, it's just a little
bit less awkward, right to then throw the sea on
that guy's chest. So I'm sure there's some Dolphin fans
who want to see him earn it, that the coaching
staff may say they want to see him earn it,
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maybe some teammates if that's how they voted. But um,
I I just I look at this and I say
it's not overly surprising considering how Brian Flores has handled
things so far with tua And you know, even though
he's come out and said he's our guy, he's our guy,
it's just it still seems like until the trade deadline
and even after the season, like I, I still think
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there's the potential chance of them doing something if they
don't feel confident enough, and when what he brings well,
you ultimately have to look at at this team and
the scenarios that could play out for tua Um being
connected ultimately to them, wanting to take a definitive step
in in the direction of this is a division that's
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up for grabs right now. I mean we can say
that it you know, it's it's the Bill's time and
they're going to dominate, and we're probably right, but it's
still considered to be a division that's a for grabs.
So when you think about how close the Miami Dolphins
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could be right now to what it is they're able
to to get accomplished, if they're not confident in the
most important piece to that puzzle being able to deliver,
then you would have to believe that they're being very,
very aggressive behind the scenes trying to figure out how
they conrectify that problem as quickly as they possibly can.
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I just know this, when you hear a lot of
speculation about something, whether it's true, there's some truth to
it there. That's This is what I've learned in media.
If you continue, you to hair something that is along
the lines of this is the storyline that continues to
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march forward. Mac Jones could be the starter. Did you
just guys see how much that picked up? Mac Jones
could be the starter? When will mac Jones start? Ken
Cam Newton maintained the position. A lot of people are
frustrated about the whole CAM and COVID thing, data DA data,
what wherever the truth was and all of that. It
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ended out playing out that mac Jones ended up being
the undisputed starter for this team. So the idea that
you continue to hear things about Tah and how okay
there has been the support that has been given to
him from Flora as he comes out. We like character guys.
He gave him a glow and endorsement of the type
of guys they want in Miami. But then Bill Belichick,
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which isn't that where the coaching tree that Flores comes from.
Didn't Belichick kind of do the same thing with Cam?
He was he was a champion of Cam and and
next thing you know, Cam isn't on the team. So
I think you could take what coaches say at face value.
I think he does believe what he's saying about to
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A and I think he does represent him well uh
in that regard. But if there's somebody that's gonna make
the Dolphins a better team and gives Floria as an
opportunity to take over that division that's up for grabs,
which he has a team that's good enough to be
able to take the bull by the horns, so to speak.
Then you gotta believe that if a Deshaun Watson is available,
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that there, and if they're working on that right now
they're trying to figure out if that trade takes place.
You have to assume that Miami felt comfortable and confident
that Deshaun Watson would come in and be ready to
play pretty much the moment he sets foot in in
South Beach. Here's what I don't get though, is you
drafted to UH like he didn't have to. You could
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have even traded back and you could have gotten more
picks for a team that I think was viewed in
a rebuilding year or at least in that mode, Like
you didn't have to take him, and they still ended
up taking him with the injury concerns and everything else.
Like that's what I don't understand about them not buying
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into two A and and how they handled things last
year with them, Like you supposedly had done all this
evaluation on the player, you've seen him play. It's not
like he hadn't been at the college level for a
number of years and you couldn't dig up information on him,
and yet you still decided to pull the trigger on him.
And then yet well you have buyer's remorse already. I mean,
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after after a year, we're like statistically looking at it
and even watching some of the tape, Like I understand
some of the concerns, but he's a rookie, Like, you
can't compare his learning to curve the Justin Herbert. Justin
Herbert was a four year starter at Oregon. He played
his entire career true freshman. All that was from Eugene.
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I mean, it's an entirely different set of circumstances. And
mind you, you know, Herbert played his best football as
last year, but he never made it to the stage
that TUA did, playing a national championship and the SEC
and all those matchups we we saw. So I just
I think it's just odd to me that they would
so quickly want to move on from a guy that
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the same coach, the same general manager. That's there, you
made the decision, like you already, you already are gonna
be second guessing this dude. Give him a chance. We
got my bead, Like, let me try to I'm not crazy,
right now, guys, listen, just and if they walk away
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from him after first of all, he came off the
injury last year was a devastating injury. Comes off the injury,
it's it's a OVID years. So it's not like everybody
had the exact proper times to get prepared for a season.
And you know, he didn't play that bad. He wasn't
He wasn't justin everybody wasn't that bad. If they walk
away from all of that after a year for some
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guy who's got twenty two plus complaints for going to
the grab lab and they want to bring him as
their franchise quarterback, and they to me that that is
a that's a gutsy, gutsy call, And I just I mean,
if I'm to at this point, man, get the hell
out of there, man, Like I mean, if if they're
not going to show faith in you in a regular
(26:35):
season game, I understand, but like you can't like get
the hell out of there, is like kind of like
how do you force your way out? Like I think
the way you get the hell out of there is
about playing well or if by them bringing into Shawn
Watson and then he's gone, well, that's not getting the
hell out of there. You're getting kicked the hell out
of there. I mean, but at this point, like differ,
(26:56):
every everything is telling him it's like the lee in
the club and get kicked out of the club. Yeah,
but you know what, it depends on what handles that
two completely different, completely, sir. We'd like to help you
to your car. Thank you, worried when you get away
you're kicked out. It's like choke. Yeah, there is no
conversation dragging you ass, shut up. Yeah, it's just it's
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just very different. Yeah, it is, you know it's yeah,
it is. It is very different here. Um yeah, absolutely definitely, LaVar.
I'm glad you see glad you see the same TV.
I don't know what you're talking about either, but man,
what's the weather like out there? You know it's raining?
Z's that's what it is? Uh, all right to Hey,
(27:48):
we want to get into our our wild card picks.
You guys ready to start to throw it out some
wild card picks? Yeah them again. We've got three wild
card picks in the a f C at n FC.
Brady Quinn, you're our leadoff here are here on out
kicked the coverage, Go right ahead, sir. Let me start
off by saying this. I was shocked. Like again, I
went through this whole thing. I went through week by week,
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game by game, shocked and how this turned out. In fact,
I'll tell you right now, I don't like it, all right,
I but I but I did this. I went through
every week of the season, every matchup, and this is
how it came out. I got the Steelers, in Browns,
A tenant seven, neither of which are making the playoffs.
I know, I don't feel good about it. And so
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uh one of the playoff teams is coming out of
the a f C East. That's the New England Pages
to the eleven and six. I don't like it. I
don't think they're gonna be a wild card team. I don't.
I think it's gonna be Pittsburgh, Cleveland or maybe both
those teams. But again, I I just for the for
the sake of this show, I want to stay true
to you guys. So I've got the Patriots, the Chargers,
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who had a great season by my thirteen and four,
and then the Broncos at eleven and six, which I
think they could be because I'm I'm betting, I'm my
man Teddy be because they gotta stacked roster. But those
are my three teams, the Patriots charges in Broncos. I'm
I'm a bit surprised, to be honest with you, though,
and I don't feel great about it. Interesting. I'm gonna
go with the three Bees is my wild card teams.
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I'm gonna go with the Cleveland Browns. I think their
roster they're two stacked. I like Baker Mayfield. I don't
think he's a top five or ten quarterback, but clearly
he can play. But I like the Cleveland Browns. I
have them getting in over the Pittsburgh Steelers. I just
there's still question marks for me when it comes to Pittsburgh.
I've also got the Buffalo Bills being a wild card team.
Now you're probably asking yourself what builds a wild card team? Well,
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if you want to know who won the division, you
can check out the podcast at Fox Sports radio dot
com because it will be thereof after the show is over.
And then I too have the Denver Broncos getting that
final wild card spot. I like the Chargers. I like
the Chargers a lot. But here we go again. Austin Eckler,
some sort of little issue pops up at practice yesterday
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and I just wonder if we're gonna see a little
bit of a sophomore slump and maybe Justin Herbert isn't
the Justin Herbert everybody thinks he's going to be this
year because of the crowds and because of being in
pack stadiums. I wonder if that's going to be an issue.
So I like the Browns, Bills and Broncois, and he's
used to the Pact twelve pactwel football where no one's
there because they play in That was it the Pack
(30:19):
twelve championship game? How many people were there? Like you
and Joe Davis called the game? Where was it? That
was like an annual thing for us. Yeah, we were
like trying to give away tickets before the game. I've
been walking around trying to give it away to people here.
Please please come to the game. Please. You could sit
right there way there, next to the field. Please come
to bring your empty seat costume too. You can blend
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right up with everybody else. So there it is. My
wild card picks labar are sticks with picks. Yeah, man,
I'm I'm gonna go with the Titans. I'm gonna go
with the Dolphins, and I'm gonna go with the Ravens team. Alright,
so you think the Dolphins, that team with a quarterback
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not named team captain, is gonna be the It's gonna
be a wild card. I think they're a good team,
and I think that they are again, I think that
they're a team that will be competitive for for the division.
I think they'll keep up. So I had them at
nine and eight. But you know what the difference was
what they weren't a wild card team for me, I
hadn't to and for in the division. So that's where
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you and I differ. I think the Patriots will be
better this year, and obviously the Bill is gonna be good.
But I think that's the difference for them is if
they do better in the vision, like you think, they're
probably a wild card team with the way I ended up.
By the way, why is it fair that Brady gets
to use some playoff predictor things? I said it to
you guys, send it, but just feel like my my
(31:44):
mind kind of yeah, I agree, I agree, In fact
it's different. In fact, they should have a brain for
the playoff predictor. You know you'll see Hamster willbals deals
and Hamsters get this is this is LaVar stock processing works.
(32:05):
I can go seek for some people when it comes
to those props. You see the little balls going down,
the little things all the way, making it all the
way to the bottom, the little silver ball. Based on
some of the other stuff, we said each other, that's
not to far off, you guys, remember that gag called
what was it? Where you you pull the thing back
and you shoot the ball into the pinball machine. That's
how my that's how my mind works. Man. I get
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thoughts coming towards me. I hit the side, I got
my little flippers, boom. I got a couple of extra
flippers higher up on. Yeah right, I'm going for the
high school school. And I was terrible at pinball. Where
are you really don't know where you are? Where you
guys valent pinball players or where you just like just
straight strategic life. I was more of a golden tea
guy like gold golden. But what I'm saying is like valent.
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Valent pinball machine players are the ones that shake the
pinball machine. Like some people are very courtous, heart to see,
driven like they'll just hit hit the thing data. But
some people are like and they shake it and they
shake it and they shake it and it's I mean,
I don't you guys, I don't know if you're really
into working out or anything. But in between games, I
used to lift the pinball machine up to get some
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did you did you ever keep hitting your flippers knowing
that the ball had already gone down and probably was over,
But in some weird, strange way, you thought that there
might be an extra ball, so you kept hitting the
flippers because you knew the flippers would stop once your
turn was over, like once your game was over. Yeah,
that's what that charge your security guard was doing on
the sidelines. A yeah, two ball corner. Po It is
(33:39):
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Just to lock in, we're gonna have some fun with that.
But right now, Albert Brier mm QB, senior NFL reporter
joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Albert, Happy NFL
(34:44):
season to you and yours. It's finally here. Yeah, and
I don't know what the hell was going on. There
was only stuff they sell in stables or something like that. Yeah,
it was. It was an office materials. Uh, yeah it was.
It was an awful bottom of the hour update, is
what it was. Let's just call it that. Okay. So
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I gotta ask you, so Patrick, certain real deal in Denver? Yeah,
I mean I think all indications are that he's come
as advertised, and um, you know, I think the physical ability.
Everybody knows, you know, what he's bringing to the table there.
It's just how quick he's picked up the defense. And
I guess you'd expect that from a guy who you
(35:30):
know as the son of a former All Pro corner
um and played for Nick Saban at Alabama. But um,
that's a complex defense, tough defense to playing on the
vic Fangio runs there in Denver and the fact that
they're able to move him around um as much as
they have been already as a rookie. I think it's
been eye opening for some people there. And so you know,
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the Broncos are setting up as an interesting team. The
quarterbacks obviously still a question, but they have a lot
going for them in a lot of different places. And
you know, not to spend this thing too far ahead,
but if you look at them, it's not that far
off from where they were, you know. I mean, Brady,
you'll remember this because you're on the team in eleven
when they had a lot of like good young players
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coming together and it really set up for Peyton Manning
to step in in two thousand and twelve where Denver
could wind up being a really attractive destination for an
Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson in two. Well,
that's why I was gonna lead to next because we
know this about the Deshaun Watson situation in Houston. He's
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not playing week one to Rod Taylor's a starter, He's
probably not gonna be active. Nickissario, the general manager, saidy,
they're gonna take you a week by week. What's your
guests as far as how this plays out? Does he
stay on the roster for the rest of the season,
do they trade him before the deadline? How do you
foresee this thing working out? Yeah, Brady, I think if
somebody was going to pay the market price, um, they
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would have paid it by now. And I think if
the Texans we're gonna take any sort of discount, they
were taking the discount by now. So I think, really,
you know, this is sort of in a holding pattern
until there's some clarity from you know, the league and
some clarity um from the legal system. And I mean,
look like I'm not going to litigate innocence or guilt.
I don't know, you know, I like, I mean that
(37:19):
that's gonna have to play itself out. And I mean,
I think one thing that's sort of interesting here is.
You know. My understanding is like there was a i'd say,
like a reasonable um you know, settlement, Like there's a
reasonable reasonable idea of a settlement out there. And my
understanding of the way that that all went down with
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the Shawn really wanted to kind of what really wanted
to prove his innocence. And if that's the truth and
he really doesn't want to settle, this is gonna take
a long time, you know. And if this thing is
hung up in the course through the season, I don't
know that any team is gonna step up with a
sort of offer that the Texans um are going to
what accept din. I just haven't gotten any sort of
(38:02):
indication whatsoever that nickos Saria is gonna take anything less
than what he would have gotten in January or February
before the lawsuits were filed to move to Shawn Watson.
What what are you working on? What are what's what's
the most relevant story you're working on right now as
it applies to the league storylines, because there there are
so many that are developing. What what do you think
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is the most relevant? I mean, I just think LaVar
the unsettled, the kind of like unsettled situation of quarterbacking
across the NFL. Um to me, that's really what it is.
And you know, I can't remember a season when we
went in where you know, you had superstar quarterbacks and
there was such huge questions on where they're gonna be
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um the following year, you know. And it's not like
we knew like you know, I mean, we had an
idea like that Brady could move on from the Patriots,
but I don't know that people really thought that was
as real as it was going into the nineteen season.
And like Peyton Man and we, I don't think anybody
thought he is not going to be a cult in
two thousand and twelve and two thousand and eleven, and
so like, I think the fact that you got the
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Shawn's name out there, the fact that you got Aaron's
name out there, the fact that Russell Wilson's situation could
um go back to where it was again last January
this January. I just think that that makes this so
interesting because so many of these I think quarterback situations
couldn't look different a year from now, and so many
of them look different now than they did past year.
Where you got Carson Wentzon Indianapolis, Sam Donald and Carolina,
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obviously Matthew Stafford in Los Angeles. So I just think
LaVar the biggest story in the league right now is
how unsettled the quarterback situation is. And if you want
to take it to kind of a broad strokes level,
like why all this is happening, I honestly believe that,
like a big part of it is sort of the
Mahometization of the NFL, where a lot of teams are
looking at the quarterbacks that have made it to the
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final stages um and you know, you look at Josh
All and Buffalo, Tom Brady and Tampa, Um, you know
Patrick and Kansas City the last couple of years, and
obviously Aaron in Green Day. I think a lot of
teams are looking at that and saying, like, can we
really climb the mountain with the quarterback we have? And
so I think that's why you've seen teams like the
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Niners start to move off with Jimmy Garoppolo, like l
a move off of Jared Goff. I think it's just
the bars raising at the position, and I think that's
created sort of an unsettled environment across the NFL. Albert Brier,
senior NFL reporter for the MMQB, joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio. Jonas knoxol Bar Arrington Brady quip with
you here on fs are what do you what do
(40:33):
you think happens with t J. Watt situation with the Steelers.
I mean, look like so like I always think like
it's always darkest before the dawn. Um, with these contract situations.
So you know, I think there's gonna have to be
some level of compromise. The Steelers have really strict rules
about what they do with contracts. They were willing to
(40:56):
bend those rules for Ben Roethlisberger years ago. Um, they
set at the time we're doing this because it's the quarterback.
We won't do it for anyone else. I think they're
gonna have to bend a little bit um to get
t J. Watt done. At the same time, I think
t J. Watson have to come off his spot a
little bit um. You know. It's just it's one of
these where you know, I think, like the deadline of
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Saturday could wind up getting the sides to find some
level of middle ground. And the Steelers have been here before.
You know, They've got David Decast done right on the
day before the season. They got Stephan to it done
right on the day before the season. They got Troy
Paula Mallow in two thousand and eleven done right on
the day before the season. So I think there's a
(41:39):
chance Friday or Saturday you're hearing about t J. Watt
getting a deal done. But I would say that it's
gonna take a fair amount of compromise from both sides
to get there, because I don't think they're that close
right now, Albert, Are you concerned it all that to
a song of Vlow is not a captain down there
in Miami. I mean, it's it's gonna be an interesting
matchup just to contrast where Matt Jones is year one
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in New England. Uh, and those two teams squaring off.
But does that concern you? Does that lead you to
think that, hey, maybe something may happen down the road
this season? I'm yeah, I mean I I'd be at
least a little concerned, right, I mean, like, like, look
like let's call it what it is, um, you know,
like I think in a lot of cases, like coaches
will make their quarterbacks captain if there's any way to
(42:21):
do it, right, Like, so like, say you want five
captains in the quarterbacks, the six leading volt getter. I
think a lot of cases that coach will say, all right,
well we're going with six captains then, you know, because
you want your quarterback to feel the way to that,
you know, leadership. And I like, I look in New
York and Zack Wilson's a captain as a rookie, and
I look in Jacksonville and Summer Lawrence as a captain
(42:43):
as a rookie. So I mean we can explain it away.
Like however you want to explain it away, I think
it's at least a little like I I got my attention.
I know that what do you think, Brady, because you
were a quarterback, I got my attention that he's not
one because I would think like a four on to
throw with support behind the guy Like then like you
find yeah, I think, I think, But yeah, I think
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I think that would be one way that my quick
answer to would be. You know, he could say whatever
he wants to behind the scenes privately to the team,
but that would be one way. But I also know
that maybe he wants him to earn that, you know,
maybe he feels like it hasn't been earned. Yet there's
that New England culture there that's the only wild card
that I don't know. But to your point, and we
mentioned this earlier and Lavard knows this, like if the
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coaching staff wants to be a captain, you're gonna be
a captain. Especially at the NFL level. It ain't college
where they're actually gonna have these all these players vote
like none of that matters, right, right, And I just
I don't know, like I would think, you know, And
I think like one thing that like one thing I
know about Belichick and I think I think Flow is
the same way like they those guys always sort of
(43:49):
have an idea of what their team needs. And you know,
I I know this with Bill, Like a lot of
people have this idea of Bill and like the guys
who work with him is like just being tough on
people all the time him, right, And I think one
of the things that Bill does well is and again
I think Flow is the exact same y Am, Miami
is like they know when a guy needs to be
(44:10):
knocked down, and they know when a guy needs to
be picked up a little bit, and they know when
they need to, you know, put a guy in his place.
And they know when they need to elevate a guy.
And I just like, look at where Tua is and
after having such a weird first year and then you know,
going into year two and on the doorstep of his
second year, he's finally the starter and they finally and
(44:31):
they and I think they got rid of Fitzpatrick in
part because they didn't want that hanging over to uh,
like he's finally there and now like he's got an
answer for this. So I just I don't know, I
just it just kind of struck me as a little
strange and it made me wonder if something's going on now.
I haven't heard that there is, but you know, I
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I would think that like just having a feel for
the situation, I would think if you're Flores, you would
want to try to build the guy up a little
bit based on everything he has been through and show
confidence in him to do the rest of the locker room. Uh,
we're talking about quarterbacks and obviously mac Jones being the
starter in in New England, what's the probability of them
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being able to win their division with a rookie quarterback.
I think Buffalo is gonna be really good, So, like
I might be the wrong person to ask on that, LaVar.
It's just because I have Buffalo on the super Bowl,
so like the Patriots, failing the win of the division,
to me wouldn't be a failure. I mean, I I like,
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I I just I think that much of where Josh
Allen is um going into going into year uh you
joining the year four. I I know, like what the
league thinks of him. You know, I'm doing a poll
um of and right now I've got sixty ballots back.
It's like head coaches, general manager's, offensive coordinators, quarterbacks, coaches director.
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As a player of personnel, Shallen is a very solid
third right now among all quarterbacks in that pole, behind
only Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes, ahead of Tom Brady. UM.
So I think they're I think Buffalo is in for
a very big year. Um. But I think the Patriots,
like to me, the formulas right there for them, And
you know, I think we're all focused on on on
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on Mac and what Matt can do. I think so
much of this is going to be how the rest
of the team can lift him up and what the
formula is. And the formula to me is the same
as it was in two thousand and one when Brady
was the starter for the first time. It's keep him
out of long distance or keep him out of long
yardage situations consistently. Don't have them playing from behind, and
they have the tools to do that because, like I
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look at it, once they get Steph Gilmore back in October,
I think they've got a chance to be an elite defense.
I think they've got a top five offensive line, and
they've got a really good tale back in Damian Harris,
and so all the tools are there to take the
pressure off him and play the game a certain way
where he isn't in third and fifteen and he isn't
playing from two or three touchdowns down. I think that's
(47:02):
gonna be the formula for them this year. And I
think if they dropped mac Jones into that sort of scenario,
it'll sort of mirror what he had at Alabama, get
him feeling more comfortable. I think that would be a
good way to get him rolling. He is Albert Brier,
mm QB senior NFL reporter, always kind enough to join
us here on Fox Sports Radio, get him on Twitter
at Albert Breer. Albert always appreciate it, man. We'll do
(47:23):
it again next week. Thanks big all right, thanks all right,
thanks guys. And I got to apologize for last week.
I was a little hazy, so hopefully this one a
little better for you guys. I like last week better.
I like last week better, but a little frisky. If
if you if you guys want, if you guys want
last week back, I can maybe I can accommodate that. Yeah,
(47:46):
a little a little breer on the rocks. That's all right,
good stuff. We'll talk to you suit. He's he's one
of the best. Albert Brier here on Fox Sports Radio.
Be sure to catch live editions about kick the coverage
weekdays at six I'm eastern three am Pacific. Here we go,
Here we go. I've got to tell you something that's
(48:07):
pretty okay. Yes, it's like sooth it you just see
uh Jonas playing the drums. Hilarious, then drums, it's good.
And it goes whoa Jonas is playing the air drum. Whoa,
he's got a highlighter in front of me. Jonas, did
(48:32):
you did you play other instruments or did you just
say yeah, you can play drums A little bit? Little
goes to I got playing Yeah, Roberto, there it is
squeeze that one? Is it? The last half hours have
been weird enough on this show, but let's make some more,
you know, some more crank jokes on Morning Crime. That'll
(48:53):
play well? It is it is. Don't getting the coverage
here on Fox Sports. We are going to have our
Super Bowl picks coming up later on in the segment here,
But right now it is time for something we do
on the show, guys, and it's called this How could
you not get to? These stories? Are the scraps? And
(49:16):
for that we turn it over to Danny g Our,
executive producer, to find out what the hell we've missed
so far on the show. Deep all right? Tiger Tiger Woods, y'all.
He is not going to be one of Steve Stricker's
assistants at the Ryder Cup, but the US captain hinted
around that Woods could be back on a golf course.
Speaking to Sirius XM Radio yesterday, Stricker for the first
(49:38):
time suggested that the fifteen time Major champion might try
to play golf again. He says, I've talked to Tiger
a lot. He's part of the Ryder Cup family. Is
not going to be able to be a captain's assistant
this time around, just because of his ongoing rehab to
try to get better and to play golf again. And
that's going well. He's progressing. He's doing very good. Things
(50:00):
are moving in the right direction. No big surprise though, right,
like what we know about Tiger, we knew he was
gonna try to get back on the cart on the course.
I mean, what's the point he came back in one
of May. He's trying to motivated. He's not motivated by
like Santa Galle, Tom Pratty do it at his age.
You don't think that motivates him. He's trying to get
(50:20):
that record. You have a Tom Brady didn't fall asleep
at the wheel of a car and and and spin
it six times. Oh yeah, that's right. He was only
blacked out drunk on a boat and around the w party. Yeah,
but he was wearing an Eastly if he game prepared,
that is true. He was prepared to party. He was prepared.
If you run east when you go out to party,
(50:42):
you're going all the ready, right, turn on Don Joy
and we go partying. Brady. So I saw I saw
Christiano Ronaldo at the club one time with a Don
Joy on him like bros. Just taking night. Hi. I
love Don Joys managing Don Joys. I'm good enough. All right.
We've talked sports memorabilia before during the scraps. This is
(51:05):
an all time low. A sports website announced that a
pair of Michael Jordan's underwear with signs of definite use,
is being auctioned with a starting bid of five dollars.
What sort of official use? This sort of official They'll
get to it here in the story. I give you,
(51:25):
I'll give you some officially. Yeah. This memorabilia website lands
formerly belonged to the legendary Bulls player and is being
sold by a family member of John Michael wosni Act,
Jordan's former security guard. The website says the unusual item
shows signs of definite use and has some loose threads
(51:47):
evident at the seams. Leland's says the underwear was one
of several items gifted to Woes the Act from Jordan's.
He also received suits, ties, belts, and jackets that were
worn by the legend. Bidding closes septem all right, see,
I thought we were going to go like the direction
of you know, you can tell he had wrapped up
(52:08):
like a baby ruth in that. That's that's what I was.
Anybody's seen that three Musketeers there it is I that
would have been way funnier. Yeah, I just I mean
you ever you ever bought underwear to spa? The whole
(52:29):
thing is weird. Well, the whole thing is weird. But
I remember I bought underwear to store and the guy's like,
just so you know, you can't return these? Like yeah, man,
someone described the guy who bits on them, like like
is he just like living in a basement somewhere and
he doesn't have any social life, Like who wants to
actually announce that they've been in one that particular item? Weird?
(52:50):
Somebody somebody bought Andre the Giants jock strap. Yeah, I
mean it's weird. That's because they're using it as a
handbag and maybe somebody believes that can fly. And then yeah,
(53:12):
by the way, uh you know Andre the Giant and
the Dead a winner. It looks like, you know, he's
writing the statue of Liberty. I mean, it's just like
he is a I just I'm just saying, you know,
like it's it's very uh you know, he's a big guy.
He's a very big guy. You know, he's just he's
a huge man. Have you seen the picture of him
moving the beer? Have you seen the beer next to
his hand? And his short can go down? Weird. I'm
(53:33):
just saying it's so weird. And I really and I
really tried to get a mental visual of the Statue
of Liberty and and here. Okay, okay, if you've seen
how big he is, Okay, yeah, there's a beer. There's
a beer can in his hand. It looks tiny. Yeah,
ok so that that's the point. That was a good point. Job, glad,
(53:57):
we way to get us there? You here the one
bringing up Jockstrap. I did bring up someone I blame.
You've already had two guys there to help him put
it on too, by the like, why do you have
to take us down there? You're gonna take us down
the road? Where? What was the bathroom? Can? We can
(54:18):
we get the can we get the can we get
the super Bowl picks? Here? On the season preview show? Here, guys,
so let's get the super Bowl picks in. He's our
leadoff man. He is the great and powerful TV star
Brady Quinn. He's so mad at me right now. Okay,
(54:39):
I've got in the a f C, the Bills and
Chiefs scoring off in the a f C Championship Game.
It's gonna be a close game, maybe one of the
more entertaining, But I've got the Chiefs winning home, just
another Super Bowl appearance for the Kansas City Chiefs. And
then in the NFC, I've got the Packers they're the
await scene, the number one seeded Buccaneers they're squaring off,
(55:02):
and I've got the Buccaneers winning once again, ruining what
could be the last dance for Aaron Rodgers at a
rematch of this past year Super Bowl. I know it's boring,
but look, these are the two best teams. I'm gonna
go with chalk right now, and I'm sure it's hell
not betting against Tom Brady. Interesting. Nothing ever goes as planned.
(55:25):
That's just how this all works out. Just it just
doesn't go as plan. I mean a few times you
could say, all right, Buffalo or the Rams, or you know,
even right now what you're dealing with with um who
just went in Kansas City. But I just don't see
either one of them making it back. I don't be
(55:45):
so negative here. I mean, I'm not trying to be negative.
I'm just trying to keep two people. That's what we
think is gonna happen, and so then when it does happen,
it's a kind of a surprise. I must think that,
and you're probably right. Honestly speaking, you're probably right. But
I'm just thinking this year, I just I really have
different teams going. I think out of out of the NFC,
(56:06):
I think Green Bay does make it to the super
Bowl this year, and out of the the a f C.
I honestly feel like, for some strange reason, looking at
this Baltimore Ravens team, their defense is pretty stutely. I
think Lamar Jackson has a confidence about him that is
almost scary and like have you figured me out? Like
(56:30):
you haven't figured me out? That's like that wait until
you get a load of me from the Joker type stuff.
I'm going with Baltimore. I think Baltimore has a serious
chance of making it back to the super Bowl, and
and I think that they will meet uh Green Bay.
See I like that. I like that. Okay, that was
my pick. I literally had Ravens over the Packers. Now
I don't know if I should have the same pick
(56:51):
as babar Ant, like we gott Yeah, we gotta go different.
I feel like we gotta go different here. So I'm
it's funny because I do think that the Ravens, if
they do make it to the super Bowl, will beat
the Packers. If the Packers make it there, I'll tell
you what, all right, I don't want to have the
same pick as LaVar Arrington's. I want us to, uh
you know, have a different rooting interests here on the show.
(57:12):
I'm gonna say the Baltimore Ravens over the San Francisco
forty Niners, that will be my super light pick. But
if that's wrong and it ends up being the Packers,
I just wanted on the record that I was going
to say, and I'm writing it down right on the rock.
I write it down right now, so so clear the
Rams there, No one's picking the Rams, not picking the Ramps.
(57:32):
I'm not. I don't think I'm I'm not. I think
they'll be all right. In the words of Rob park
I'm not bet no step Patford. In the words of
Rob Parker. So again, now we will be back tomorrow
for a look back and Cowboys Bucks
Hosts And Creators
Brady Quinn
LaVar Arrington
Jonas Knox
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