November 15, 2021 • 39 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar react to the crazy timing of Robert Woods going down with season ending injury the day after the Rams signing Odell Beckham Jr. Dallas proves Jonas right by laying the hammer on the Falcons. Teddy Bridgewater made business decisions vs the Eagles and Mike White comes back down to earth. All that and more including The Scraps.
Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe podcast with Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and myself,
LaVar Arrington. Make sure you catch us live weekdays six
to nine am Eastern or three am to six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local
station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
(00:20):
show over f Fox Sports Radio dot Com, or stream
UT's live every day on the I Heart Radio app
by searching f s R. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
You talk about some strange slash awful luck for one
(00:43):
team and one player in the NFL. We will get
into all of that here coming up just a couple
of moments from now. It is Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas knocks you the here on fs ARE you can
hang out with us as always on the I Heart
Radio app. You can find us on hundreds of Fox
Sports Radio affiliates and wherever you are making us a
part of your Monday morning. We appreciate you doing so,
(01:05):
and we will take you all the way up until
the end of the hour nine am Eastern times six
o'clock Pacific right here on Fox Sports Radio. We've got
a fun Monday night game coming up later on tonight
between the forty Niners and the Rams. Um the Odell
Beckham News he ends up signing with the l A. Rams.
We talked about it last week and then this is
(01:28):
just crazy, terrible luck. Robert Woods in practice on Friday,
tears his A c L. Finished practice, uh you know,
did his you know, post practice obligations, talked with the
media all that. Um felt like, you know, the the
injury wasn't anything too bad, and then they did some
tests and it was revealed that he had a torn
(01:49):
a c L. Just terrible the way that whole thing
went down, in the timing of it. You know, it's interesting.
I won't take this and and make this mind because
quite frankly, I wouldn't said it, but T J. Hushman's
out of we you know, we do a show on
the weekend called up on game and he made mention
of the fact he felt that there was the possibilities
(02:12):
of that the I know, it's crazy, but it makes
a little sense, the O. B J effect, Like maybe
him being in the facility had guys working you know,
a little harder. Maybe maybe you were running routes with
a little bit more bouncing, a little bit more pep
in your step. Maybe you wanted to impress a little
(02:33):
bit um and and maybe you were pushing because there's
quite frankly a new guy in town that has a
big name. But regardless of why it happened or how
it happened, I think that the timing of it is
so weird. It's such a peculiar timing of how that
would happen, and and the day that had happened like
(02:54):
it wasn't even I don't believe it was a hard
what was it a Friday or something? And the report
was that I think it was on a jet sweep.
That was one of the things that I saw that
he was running at just a jet sweep, went down,
got up in finished practice. He didn't think anything of it,
and that that's when Odell Beckham showed up and everybody,
(03:15):
you know, the receivers have that type of perspective. Brutal,
I don't know, but that's sad wishing him well and
speedy recovery. I think the immediate thoughts too, is is
aside from that, which I'm not gonna go there, um
is who this impacts the most. You know, I think
you look at you say, well, this really probably helps O.
B J get more targets. I actually think it helps
(03:38):
Van Jefferson, who was gonna all of a sudden be
lost in the wayside because of you know, the addition
of O. B J. And look, he's been a good
receiver for him this year. You know, he's been that
other reliable option outside of Cooper Cup, outside of Robert Woods,
it's been Van Jefferson. And so I think now he
kind of comes back into that mix as probably that
(04:00):
number two three option, And obviously it helps out Darryl
Henderson and Slie Michelle getting more touches as running backs
not only you know, rushing the football, but potentially in
the passing game too. It it's one less option that
Sean McVeigh is trying to find ways of implementing, you know,
a wide receiver into the mix. So, you know, moving forward,
(04:21):
it's just kind of crazy. I mean, I think it's
almost more in a way of just the kind of
luck that you see from teams. Sometimes they have a
guy down that goes down and you just brought in
someone to add to that roster. It's it's one of
those things where I look at it and say, that's
the kind of luck that hits you when you go
on and win a Super Bowl. It's like those sorts
of breaks kind of break your way where yeah, you
(04:43):
lose the top of the line wide receiver, but you
just signed a guy who's gonna be able to come
in and help carry some of that that load of
that bird moving forward. And what didn't they weren't they
without Cooper Cup when they made the runder the Super
Bowl a couple of years and they were Yeah, yeah,
I think they were without Cooper Cup there. Um, just
for me from a quarterback standpoint, how long does it
take to get a wide receiver involved and comfortable in
(05:06):
that offense? How long is this gonna take? For That's
the thing is like he you know, Cooper Cup and
Matt Stafford obviously have a great rapport and relationship with
one another, and they have to because of the type
of routes that Cooper Cup runs. He's gonna run a
lot of option routes, so he's either breaking in or
out depending on the type of leverage a defender has.
(05:27):
And because there's an element of timing in those plays.
You've got to be able to have that nonverbal communication down,
understand how the guy gets in and out of his cuts,
understanding like where he's gonna sit in the zone coverage.
Sometimes there's guys who they're gonna notice sit in the
first window and they just have a feel for going
to the next window and then sitting and that takes
(05:47):
time to develop. But Stafford cup have been able to
do that. O. B J is not gonna be in
that position, like, I don't think they're gonna put him
in that position. I think they put him in a
position where you know, he's running routes down the field,
or he's running routes where you know, maybe he's the
first option and it's a it's a timing option, right,
it's a stop ro out of nine yards stop he
runs up, stops the nine yards, the balls there on
(06:08):
on his back shoulder at those sorts of place, things
that aren't overly complicated to get a fuel for the
sensing and timing of that. And he's doing only option,
you know, so it doesn't play into how his route,
the depth of it, or how he runs. It could
mess up the rest of a concept you know, screens,
those sorts of things. So that's how I would I
(06:29):
would see him working his way in early on, and
I think that will evolve obviously as the season goes on.
You know, I think that this is one of those
moments in time where you say, is the disruption of
this injury and the acquisition and the addition of oh
b J going to be positive or is it going
(06:53):
to have a setback tone to it? And and and meaning
that we know what the positive off of this can
be in terms of the fact that you dodge a
bullet because you know, Woods goes down and and oh
b J is here. But again, I'm gonna go back
to something that that you said last last week, Brady,
(07:15):
in terms of what Robert Woods represents to this team.
He's that leader of the team. He's that that vocal leader,
he's that emotional leader. Sometimes you don't realize how much
of an impact in the presence that a player is
having on the success of a team until you don't
have that anymore. And you know, as Cooper Cup that
(07:38):
guy that can transition into that leadership role. I don't know,
do you expect O b J to be that guy
that comes in and provides that emotional spark and that leadership.
I don't know, but what I do know is this
can go one or two ways. You can see them
thrive even yet and still based upon um a tragic situation,
(08:00):
aation taking place, and but still having the ability to
fill that void or that void is too big to
fill on other levels outside of just being on the
field and what that represents to the success of this
team and just running routes and catching the ball. This
could this could linger far beyond it being based off
(08:21):
of just the play. I would also think Odell Beckham Jr.
It is smart enough to realize that, Look, things didn't
end well in New York, things didn't end well in Cleveland,
And at some point people are asking the question, well,
there's the common denominator here. Yeah, so so this is
going to be I don't I don't know if well
behaved is the right term to call, but this is
(08:43):
going to be I would think Odell Beckham, Yes, but
but but more like in tune with what you just said,
aware of what you just said, He's going to be
more aware. He's going to be more in tune. And
in fact, you would have to us assume that he's
going to go out of his way to make sure
(09:03):
that he is a positive contributor to this team. Yeah,
I would think so. And you know, whether or not
that turns into him getting uh, you know, a contract
at the end of all this, or a big deal
at the end of all this, I would just I
would venture to guess that he's going to look at
this and realize, all right, I'm on team three here.
Let's start, you know, moving towards because what is He's
(09:24):
twenty nine now, so I mean he's starting to get
to the point to where maybe teams are looking at
him going what does he have left? And and it's
not as drastic because of the injury. Yeah, and it's
not as drastic as the Antonio Brown stuff to where
he whatever the hell, it's actually more drastic in the
health aspect of it. Antonio Brown is healthy. He just wasn't,
(09:47):
you know, handling his affairs off the field properly or
in the locker room. Whereas O'Dell, you still got a
question is he healthy enough? Is there enough left based
upon health? I mean a b did freeze his feet off.
I mean, you know there's that as well too. I mean,
but that's not that's a problem. Yeah, that's a problem. Yeah.
I mean, like he turned into Encino Man one off season.
(10:08):
It's just kind of rough. You know. Encino Man was
a great movie. Would you just say that that Brendan Fraser. Yes,
be ever, I don't leave it a lot of bar
I see that on there. Listen, there was that. There
(10:30):
was also that movie where he was you know, went
to Harvard or some some school with honors. Is that
the movie back in the day with honors? Yeah, there's
that one too. Um, you know, I mean listen, he
woke up in a block of ice and Pauly Shore's garage.
I don't really think that's you know, much character depth there,
to be honest with you, you know. And uh, as
(10:50):
the sirens rolled by, I thought they were coming here.
I don't know, I probably should, but yeah, because absolutely
not absolutely not. Um. And also with the forty Niners
and their situation, Um, this is going to get another
opportunity for for people to be critical of Kyle Shanahan
(11:13):
in prime time. There's there's that as well too. You know,
just some people out there critical of Kyle Shanahan and
his performance thus far. So we get to see how
that all plays out on Monday Night Football, So it'll
be a fun one, a lot of a lot of fun.
Later on tonight, it is too Pros and a Cup
of Joe here Fox Sports Radio, Labar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knocks coming up next. Um, there's a a team
(11:33):
in the NFL who wanted to make things right based
on what happened last week. They absolutely did make things right.
We'll have that for you next, But first we want
to tell you we are brought to you by Discover.
Real credit card questions require real people, someone who understand
your issues and works to resolve them with you. That's
why Discover offers helpful US based representatives available seven. Discover
(11:57):
exceptionally common sense. So that t h in the NFL
made a statement and we should have all been paying
close attention to it. We'll get into that for you
right here on FS are be sure to catch live
editions of two Pros and a Cup of Joe with
Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knocks week days at
six am Eastern three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
(12:18):
and the I Heart Radio app. No no no no
no no no no no it's two pros and a
cup of Joe. Here Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas knocks with you here on FS are coming up
later on this hour. UM, a bizarre moment in an
NFL game played out. I don't know that I've ever
heard of this happened before, but we will have the
(12:41):
details of it four year later this hour on Fox
Sports Radio. UM. Now the Dallas Cowboys. In fact, you
know I'm gonna be nice about this, Listen. I tried
to tell you on Friday. All I do is hand
out winners here. I don't even know what it's like.
I don't know what it's like to lose with that anymore. Yeah,
and you got one. You got one here, coach, because
(13:03):
I don't even know what it's like to lose a
bet anymore. I told you the Dallas Cowboys were gonna
make things right. Uh, Dan Quinn's revenge on the Atlanta Falcons,
who are a bad football team. And Dallas went out
yesterday and laid the hammer, laid the hammer. And I
tried to tell you, Brady, and you know, jump on board,
ride me, man, just ride me all the way to
the winner circle. Because we would have got it done
(13:24):
there in that game. Yeah, can you f eight that?
For all listeners out there, you know what I meant.
You know exactly what I meant. You know exactly what
I meant. That was yesterday. I have no idea what
you're talking about, but that hard and a guy I
can't win with him? Was that a Dan Quinn revenge game? Yeah,
(13:47):
that's gotta be. I mean, I think it played a
role because that Dallas Cowboys defense completely redeemed itself from
what it looked like. That's what I done. It couldn't
get any worse. You go and you totally redeem yourself.
(14:07):
I mean, it's just I don't know what else you
make of that. Matt Ryan. I mean, he looked completely
shell shocked. That was his worst game of the season,
and it's not even close, and he's actually been having
a pretty good year. But my god, I mean it
was it was awful. It was almost as bad as
the Browns Patriots game, which got you know, eventually they
(14:30):
just threw the white flag on that one and then
CBS just turned into a completely different game. But I
don't know. I mean, look, if that version of the
Cowboys comes out every week, and obviously, you know, maybe
the Falcons are the most fraudulent team at this point.
You know, maybe there's gonna fall by the wayside. But
if that version of the Cowboys comes out every week,
Jerry Jones is gonna be a happy man come January,
(14:52):
come February? Is it me? Or when Matt Ryan looks bad,
he just looks really bad, Like what is it about him?
Is it the way and he falls? Is it? Like?
What is it about him that when he when it's
going bad, he just he looks like unwatchable. It's it's
it's the Patrick A. Ramsey effect is what I call it,
because that's what I dealt with. And in Washington, it's
(15:15):
when a guy has been hit too many times during
the duration of their career and he's just been hit
too many times and he doesn't want to get hit
like that's not some guys really are impacted by the
thought of getting hit, like the brutality of the sport itself.
(15:36):
Matt Ryan strikes me as a shell shocked guy. And
if you're able to get to him, if you're even
if you're able to hit a guy like Matt Ryan early,
this would be our scouting report, right if we're playing
against Matt Ryan, I'd be like, all right, here we go.
Like I would get in front of our guys and
I'd be like, here's what we gotta do. I don't
even care if you get a hit on that Ryan.
(15:57):
Swipe your hand at him, wave your hand at him,
swing your hands at him, scream at him, slap his legs,
no matter what it is, if you get close to him.
Was it a haunted house? I mean, guy, there are
some guys that they get rattled so easily, because for
every time that you scream, you slap at him, you
(16:18):
swat at him, there's gonna be somebody who lands home
and is able to hit him. I mean, he was
dropping the ball when they hit him. He was coughing
it up. I mean, that is a classic case of
a guy that's just been he's been hit too many
times and he doesn't like it. And that's honest, that's honest,
to God's true. That would be a scout report. That
would be a part, that would be one of the
(16:39):
paragraphs that if I were doing a scout report on
him for our guys, I would draw that it's pretty insulting.
He's not wrong. I mean, I think I think with
LaVar is speaking to us, he you know, Matt Ryan
knows at this point the biggest thing from keeping him
from playing and and you know, excelling or or even
just continue to keep getting paid what he's getting paid
(17:01):
at this point time in his career is not getting hurt.
Like it's it's easier to come back from injuries when
you're in your twenties. It gets pretty darned difficult to
come back from injuries in your thirties and be able
to play as high of a level. It's just the reality.
I mean, you're still trying to hang on to what
athleticism you've got at that point, so that that's the
(17:23):
truth of the matter. So yeah, I don't think he
wants to get hit. I think he's taken a lot
of hits and I think he knows too, and especially
with Rosen coming in after him, not that he was
set up to win when you're down by a ba
jillion points, but he knows to this gives them the
best chance to win moving forward. Like at one point
in that game, you have to be thinking like I'm
(17:44):
not trying to win anymore because we're not going to
Like I'm in survival mode, Like what gives us the
best chance of making the playoffs is me getting out
of this game healthy and being able to start over
again next week. Like that's the reality of the Falcons
right now. Okay, So when Joey Bosa made comments about
Derek Carr, and we knew if you get to him
early and you rattle him, you know early on, we
(18:05):
know he's a different player after that, like something great example,
and and and Derek Carr was bothered by it, and
probably because maybe there's an element of truth to it,
and and that bother him that that Joey Bosa went
public like that, you believe that there are players around
the NFL that look at that believe that's that's what
it is like when I when I watched Matt Ryan.
(18:26):
That would be again when I was an active player.
One of the things that I used to do is
when we did our scout reports, I would do a
breakdown on certain players, their main players, certain things that
you needed to pay attention to, certain things that could
give us a competitive edge. I would get I would
pass it out, like first I'll print it out for us,
(18:47):
and then I'll read it to us. And one of
the things that I would most certainly say about Matt
Ryan is get to him, because if we get to him,
we're gonna cause we're gonna give ourselves an opportunity to
cause turnovers. We're gonna get easy sacks. This could be
one of those sack extravaganza games. Um, and they're going
to have to rely on their run. They're going to
(19:08):
become a one dimensional team that's on the scout And
I can guarantee you that's what dan Quinn was telling
those guys and and there their scout reports. See. I
just think it's a little unfair. And here's why, um,
and you guys don't want to acknowledge this on the air,
but I'll acknowledge it on the air. I feel like
it's unfair because you guys are judging Matt Ryan next
to Teddy Bridgewater, who will go above and beyond following
(19:31):
an interception to make a tackle and make it a turnover,
to make a tame make a play. So I just
feel like you guys are going to you know, the teddy,
Teddy Bridgewater showed you he will do whatever it takes
to bring down that that defender if he's got the
football about ready. To score. I don't know if you
guys know that or not. Can our can our listeners
understand there was and that it was a fumble that
(19:54):
which I'm still curious about that call. By the way,
I don't know where Ford progress wasn't stop and all that.
But well, let's just get into the play, right, you'll
see it. All you gotta do is either you know,
put it in the old Google machine or put it
in Twitter or whatever you'll find it. Or that's a
business decision, like that's that's coming from He called him
(20:15):
Teddy business decision that that but here kind of just
defend him for a second, Like same comments I'll make now,
like what is best for the Broncos moving forward? Is
it Teddy starting this year or not? Because it is
like if you like, we've already gone through Drew lock
and that's that's not really their best chance of winning,
So Teddy starting is their best shot. He made a decision,
(20:39):
and I think probably what flashed through his head is
all the times he's been injured that have kept them
out of being able to, you know, be at a
different point time in his career as a quarterback. Like
that's the reality of it. You know, his knee injury
granted non contact in Minnesota, but then some other stuff
he's dealt with since like that's what's kept him from
(20:59):
ultimately being the guy that you know, could be a
franchise starting quarterback. So he understands it's a business decision
in the sense of, like, hey, if I want to
be able to roster and actually the last thing I
want is to try to tackle this guy separate my
throwing Ship's not not an ideal. Look though, you know,
I mean, like here and here's here's the other thing
you of all people sitting here saying, listen, I can
(21:21):
understand what he was doing. Okay, I wouldn't have been
what I did exactly because your meathead and you would
you would have tried. You would have tried to maim
somebody to get that ball back like I would have jumped.
I would have jumped on him like a hyena would have.
I literally would have. I would have just absolutely tried
to pick him up and body slam and get the
(21:43):
ball out. I just like, what was what was what
was he trying to do? Like was he trying to
get the like he was trying to maybe he thought
the play was dead I don't know, Like I honestly,
I honestly thought that's what he thinks. Like, Hey, they're
gonna review this. They're going to see that this thing
was dead like ever should have one as far as
it did. I I really do feel like that's where
(22:04):
this is gonna go. I mean, look, there's some people
out there. There's reports that are saying that, well, you know,
he may have quit on them. That he may have
uh you know he said afterwards, this is the quote
from from Teddy Bridgewater afterwards. Uh uh it's the so
so we do have this as this is the quite
the Q and a Teddy Bridgewater, uh, the greatest tackler
(22:28):
the league has ever seen. Talking with the media afterwards
about about his approach in that moment, Sid score, think
you got a chance at him? What happens? He's running
down the side of Yeah, just trying to force the
(22:48):
guy back and signed. I'll buy it. Listen that that
was that was his approach. You wanted to force him
back inside somebody else can make the tackles so they
could get the stats and on him. I think that's
a team player through and through. I don't think he
forced him anywhere, you know, it was. It was a
very passive move to think about did I want he
was He was in his head like do I want
(23:11):
to engage this guy? Does that piss his teammates off
really really bad? And film? Yeah, it's too bad. It's
gonna look awful. I mean, that's that that rewind. You know,
coaches love to rewind film like a hundred times with
one of those with the red laser, like this is
(23:31):
like this right here, and you keep rewinding it this
this right here, like I understand your quarterback, Teddy, But guys,
I want you to understand this. Um, if anybody else
does this this right here, this uh huh that right there, yep, yep,
this right here, if anybody else does this during the
(23:52):
course of this season, you will be immediately released and waved.
It says, oh man, and not includes you, Teddy. I
gotta tell you, like you're a heart and guy, but
this one includes you two. You know, we we had
a second year player when I was in Cleveland, that
oh later guy on the sideline, like literally tight end
(24:14):
running down the sideline business decision just like flat out
didn't want any part of that business now. And he
was a smaller dB. So it really was like, hey,
am I gonna wake up after this collision? And it
was a point of contention in the meeting after the loss,
and I just I remember sitting there thing to myself like, man,
(24:36):
that's the kind of stuff where you get labeled, especially
that early in your career and that seldom playing, you
get labeled with that, and then people start to look
for and moving forward. So granted, like Teddy, it's a quarterback.
I think we we all can realize what decision he made.
But toil LaVar's point, man, you do that in a
(24:57):
in a I've witnessed it. I've literally or a head
coach single like singular, like point out this play and
go off on a tirade for about five minutes dog
cussing a player. I mean, even even in real speed,
it's like, what are you doing, dude? Like I don't
I just I don't get it. It was almost like
(25:18):
he was trying to check him. I think he thought
it was coming back. I really do. I think he
thought like, hey, this there's no way the four progress
wasn't stopped, Like this isn't gonna come back. Because I'm watching,
I didn't get to hear an explanation. Um, you know,
from from any official, I don't get to hear that point.
You probably won't probably him up to That's the thing
(25:40):
about it. He had him, He had him squared up
to hit that balance zone on the shoulder. You hit
that balance zone. You showed me a man with no shoulders.
I'll show you a man with no balance And he
had the ability to to really like like giving that side,
that little side, you know what I mean. Like now,
if he stays up when you hit that balance zone,
that shoulder like bam, you hit that shoulder with your shoulder.
(26:02):
If he stays up, nobody has anything to say about it.
You know, you could have wrapped him up, but we
we will overlook that. You tried. But that pump fake
like you pump faked it. I don't know, man, Like
it looked like Chatty Bridgewater had the ball, like he
was trying to avoid the contact, Like he was like
(26:23):
doing the like little little Lamar Jackson stopping going to
the end zone just so bad. I don't know that.
It's two pros and a cup of Joe here Fox
Sports Radio coming up twelve minutes from now. A very
bizarre scene played out in an NFL game one that
we've never seen before. We will get into all the
details and that for twelve minutes from now on. On
fsl on one of us took the prop on who
(26:46):
would pass out first, that I feel like you're losing though.
I feel like I'm going down fast. I'm telling you,
if I go down, save yourself. O. Man. It is,
uh yeah, a little nicy it here, all right. So, um,
remember when Mike White was good? I mean, listen, I
don't know what the hell to ache of what happened yesterday,
(27:07):
but yeah, Mike White, he did talk about the situation.
This was the Jets quarterback after that just awful loss
to the Bills yesterday. I think I let the score
dictate my decision making. That can't happen as a quarter
You've got to be able to block that noise out
and you know, never too hot, never too low, and
execute the play called. Every player has a life of
its own and once that plays over, onto the next one.
(27:29):
And that's kind of how you need to operate as
a quarterback. In my opinion, he should have faked an injury.
He should have should have faked an injury after his
first start. I mean that's the proper way he kind
of did. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you know, like
he would have gotten a three year deal for like,
you know, twelve million or something a year, had he
just not another game to look at. You know who
(27:49):
was most disappointed they had to start this past week
and replaces Zach Wilson was Mike White. He was Let's
be real, it was the spread was what thirteen points? Yeah,
I mean they didn't have much of a shot, and
and you know, Mike White played so well it made
Zack Wilson look good this year. So if that makes
(28:11):
like seriously like like there's no one benefited more from
yesterday's performance by Mike White than Zack Wilson, I mean
like they'll be happy for him to come back, which
is probably gonna be next week because I think the
Jets didn't want to kick the tires without admitting it
on what he might look like versus the Buffalo Bills.
So keep an eye out for that. One Coming up
(28:33):
this week is we're gonna announce that Zack Wilson has
all of a sudden magically raculous recovery. Miraculous, It's amazing
how that works there. For the for the Jets only
and then the Bills you know, starting to you know,
maybe uh, you know, maybe try and get back on
track as well. The Jets are the tonic. The Jets
(28:54):
are what every team needs when you're having a little
bit of a slump. You know, we'll just call him
the slump bust. Yeah, that is, that is what the
set up to come at this point of The Jets
are the slump busters to your classy guy there, he
is the face of Wendy's here with a wrong tell
me all wrong. You can't be wrong on this one,
(29:16):
even make you wrong. You take the trip up to
New York. You know it'll it'll help you out. Serum.
That's the serum. It is two pros and a cup
of Joe. Here. Jonas has never been to New York.
So New York. No, there's no about the quote unquote Jets.
I've been to New York. The Jets a lick, just
(29:36):
not not that part, not that part of New York.
U coming up next here. This is a bizarre story
in the NFL. I don't think I've ever seen this before.
We will get into all the details for your next
is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on FSR,
be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington and
(29:57):
Jonas knocks week days at six am Eastern three am Pacific. Hey,
it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Mallery,
along with my trustee sidekick David Gascon. Would meet a
lot to have you join us on our weekly auditory journey.
You're asking one in God's name is the Fifth Hour?
I'll tell you it's a spin off of the Ben
Maller short cold hit overnights on fs ARE. Why should
(30:19):
you listen? Picture if you will the world will we
chat with captains of industry in media, sports and more
every week Explorer some amazing facts about the human nature
and more. Let'sten to the Fifth Hour with Ben Mallow
or the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever
you get your podcast. Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe Here Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
(30:39):
knocks at the Here on fs ARE. We are gonna
be back on the air, same time, same place tomorrow,
six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific here on fs ARE.
So also we're back. Yeah, Well, listen, you know, get
some things figured out here, you know, hopefully, I don't know,
I don't know if we're gonna make it all right.
(30:59):
So it is I'm for something that we we normally
do on the show here. Uh, it is a and
I'll just put it this way. It is a cut
above the rest, a scissors edition of the Scraps. We
will explain coming up next. How could you not get
to these stories? Are the Scraps? And for that story
(31:21):
and more, we turn it over to our executive producer,
Lead to Laugh to find out what the hell is
going on Lee, something you don't see every day. Uh.
Game stoppage in the middle of the Raiders Chiefs game.
Someone went to thought that it was lining up off sides,
but actually one of the Raiders players found some scissors
on the field grab them in stop the game one gameplay.
(31:45):
It had to have dropped out of like a trainer's
belt or something. You know, they have those like tape
cutting scissors on the adam in that. I mean, imagine
if they hadn't found it and somebody got tackled on that.
Imagine if a player was trying to use them scissors. Yeah,
oh oh, as like a wet not to cut somebody's
tape off while they were tackling. That interesting, that's that
(32:08):
would readefine Murkin somebody out on the tackle. You know
what I mean? Now? Is this anything? I am joking
every last boy scout? Is this anything similar to how
you know Brady Quinn used to have a you know,
some honey on the field. Uh? Didn't you used to
have a a jar of honey on the field at
(32:29):
all times or one of those little honey whatever my
calling card. It was kind of like, uh, kind of
like the wet bandits from home alone. Did you ever
leave it out on the field during a game in
the fifth yard line? You know, if you would have,
if you would have went on like and it was
more college you can't do in the NFL because there's
too many horrible It was weird. Here's how it started.
(32:51):
When I was young. I used to have like wrestling
and football really really early in the morning, and so
my dad and my uncle were like, hey, we gotta
get you like a jewel of energy. So take a
table spoon of honey, you know, give you a little
sugar high natural sugar high. So I started doing that
and it just became like almost a superstition. And then
I started like leaving it like serious about it, dead serious.
(33:17):
It was the weirdest little tradition. I thought we were
kind of coat wording. Honey, you know that story. I've
heard of guys eating like a mouthful of garlic and
onions and and and going into the game bro like steak.
You know Mark Schlab You know, he's like notoriously known
(33:38):
for like smelling horribly bad during the game, and that
gave him a competitive advantage because he would go to
the bathroom on himself, just saying they called him stink
for a reason. He wants to deal with that filthy look.
I mean, you know they call guys dirt bags. You
know what they called dirt bags? Like they do some
(34:01):
wild stuff. Man. Yeah yeah, if I started doing I
really might go to death. Some extra a little compromise,
Yeah yeah, I start trying it. Be what else you
got you guys. DK Metcalf was losing his cool at
(34:23):
the end of the games, throwing punches and getting injected. Well,
he didn't quite get the memo that he couldn't get
back into the game a few plays right on back
in the refs had to remove him from the huddle
like that. Just that's how you know he had a
blackout moment, like he was first off, he had the
whole joker look going, right, and he kind of looked
just like him without the painted face, right uh. And
(34:44):
then it's just the TLC stuff he does on his face.
Remember TLC, the band, the group, one of them, like
was it was it a right eye? Right? But this
one but right I Rodriguez or whatever name is, I'm
just saying, God man, I'm just I don't know the name.
I'm just saying like he had liked right, fine, but
but he had the joker look like you're stupid, he
(35:07):
had let's keep going all right? Anyway, I think he
blacked out and had a moment and clearly went back
into the into the game when he thought that he
was supposed to be in the game, but he wasn't.
And I feel so awkward right now because you made
me feel out. Thank you, Jonnas, thank you, thank you
(35:28):
very much. As as me being a tap bit off
right now, you had to complicate it with that, Okay,
that goes into scraps, all right, what else we got
lee you guys, if you had noticed during the Patriots
Browns game. When Jacobe Meyers scored that touchdown, the whole
team got pretty excited. There's a good reason for that.
(35:49):
He's the uh he has gone the longest without catching
a touchdown past he has a hundred thirty four receptions
and fifteen hundred plus yards. He's thrown two touchdowns, but
that was actually his first touchdown catch. Good for him,
man good for thirty eight total games. So so that's
the first. God think about that he played with Brady
and that's the first touchdown he's ever caught in his career,
(36:12):
and so he's the most. So he's the most receptions
and receiving yards without a touchdown catch in NFL history.
Think about how sad you would be to have played
with Tom Brady, the Goat and never never caught a
touchdown pass from Think about how look at all the
things jaw Kobe has been a I think he was.
(36:32):
He was an undrafted free agent if I'm not mistaken,
So he's been an incredible story. But think about the
opportunity he had to catch a touchdown pass from the
all time great and it just never hands. It just
never happened, never became, and there must have been a
time where he was close to where he probably, man,
I should have like what happened here? Like I should have? Yeah,
(36:54):
that's uh, but that's historical. That's like the last person
that goes in the draft, you know, Mr Irrelevant, you
know what I mean. So you think it's a good
thing you didn't catch a touchdown pass from Uh? Well,
I mean, look, you can you can brag about something.
I never caught a touchdown pass from him, you know,
and I played against him. Did you score in the NFL?
(37:15):
You score touchdown? I did you? Did you? It was
an interception or fumble both, So you scored a couple
of touchdowns. I have. I have a couple of my
I mean I made a couple of plays. Yeah, I wasn't.
I wasn't always you know this dude in front of you,
I made a few and by the way, Mac Jones,
(37:36):
uh the brand new Tom Brady in New England. He
was asked about Jacoby Myer's touchdown. You were one of
the first ones down to see him in the end zone.
How good did it feel to see Jacoby get his
first touchdown? Perception? That was awesome? I told him today.
I was like, you're gonna score. I didn't know that
I was going to come from a lawyer, but it
was great, soft spoken man. It's a good man. I
(37:58):
just love I love that Jones. Yeah, I mean it's
just kind of funny though too, Like who would have
been able to predict that that the first one he
would catch would end up being from Hoyer as opposed
to mac Joe were Tom Brady? Um and uh and
just you know, you hear a guy like that, just
a kind a kind soul, so happy for his teammate
there and just an aw shucks moment and then he
ripped your leg off your tour, so just you know,
(38:20):
just it's it's he didn't try that with Myles Garrett
after Miles Garrets, well, you know, and then there's that. Yeah,
it is funny, Uh you know hearing Myles Garrett talk about,
you know, how cornerbacks should behave on the field. It's
just funny about the we ever get the truth, if
you ever get the truth on that on that story
from Mason rddoff, anybody, Uh, you're gonna do that with
(38:41):
what I'm saying, You're gonna do that with like thirty
seconds you're saying it was hypocritical because he's beating a
man with his own helmet. Just you know, there's there's
a lot of mics out there. I just you know,
it's odd nobody picked that one thing up. You know,
it's just weird. I just saying, I'm just going to
get the hell out of here. The Saint LeVar please,
Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe podcast with Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and myself,
LaVar Arrington. Make sure you catch us live weekdays six
to nine am Eastern or three am to six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local
station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
(00:20):
show over f Fox Sports Radio dot Com, or stream
UT's live every day on the I Heart Radio app
by searching f s R. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
You talk about some strange slash awful luck for one
(00:43):
team and one player in the NFL. We will get
into all of that here coming up just a couple
of moments from now. It is Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas knocks you the here on fs ARE you can
hang out with us as always on the I Heart
Radio app. You can find us on hundreds of Fox
Sports Radio affiliates and wherever you are making us a
part of your Monday morning. We appreciate you doing so,
(01:05):
and we will take you all the way up until
the end of the hour nine am Eastern times six
o'clock Pacific right here on Fox Sports Radio. We've got
a fun Monday night game coming up later on tonight
between the forty Niners and the Rams. Um the Odell
Beckham News he ends up signing with the l A. Rams.
We talked about it last week and then this is
(01:28):
just crazy, terrible luck. Robert Woods in practice on Friday,
tears his A c L. Finished practice, uh you know,
did his you know, post practice obligations, talked with the
media all that. Um felt like, you know, the the
injury wasn't anything too bad, and then they did some
tests and it was revealed that he had a torn
(01:49):
a c L. Just terrible the way that whole thing
went down, in the timing of it. You know, it's interesting.
I won't take this and and make this mind because
quite frankly, I wouldn't said it, but T J. Hushman's
out of we you know, we do a show on
the weekend called up on game and he made mention
of the fact he felt that there was the possibilities
(02:12):
of that the I know, it's crazy, but it makes
a little sense, the O. B J effect, Like maybe
him being in the facility had guys working you know,
a little harder. Maybe maybe you were running routes with
a little bit more bouncing, a little bit more pep
in your step. Maybe you wanted to impress a little
(02:33):
bit um and and maybe you were pushing because there's
quite frankly a new guy in town that has a
big name. But regardless of why it happened or how
it happened, I think that the timing of it is
so weird. It's such a peculiar timing of how that
would happen, and and the day that had happened like
(02:54):
it wasn't even I don't believe it was a hard
what was it a Friday or something? And the report
was that I think it was on a jet sweep.
That was one of the things that I saw that
he was running at just a jet sweep, went down,
got up in finished practice. He didn't think anything of it,
and that that's when Odell Beckham showed up and everybody,
(03:15):
you know, the receivers have that type of perspective. Brutal,
I don't know, but that's sad wishing him well and
speedy recovery. I think the immediate thoughts too, is is
aside from that, which I'm not gonna go there, um
is who this impacts the most. You know, I think
you look at you say, well, this really probably helps O.
B J get more targets. I actually think it helps
(03:38):
Van Jefferson, who was gonna all of a sudden be
lost in the wayside because of you know, the addition
of O. B J. And look, he's been a good
receiver for him this year. You know, he's been that
other reliable option outside of Cooper Cup, outside of Robert Woods,
it's been Van Jefferson. And so I think now he
kind of comes back into that mix as probably that
(04:00):
number two three option, And obviously it helps out Darryl
Henderson and Slie Michelle getting more touches as running backs
not only you know, rushing the football, but potentially in
the passing game too. It it's one less option that
Sean McVeigh is trying to find ways of implementing, you know,
a wide receiver into the mix. So, you know, moving forward,
(04:21):
it's just kind of crazy. I mean, I think it's
almost more in a way of just the kind of
luck that you see from teams. Sometimes they have a
guy down that goes down and you just brought in
someone to add to that roster. It's it's one of
those things where I look at it and say, that's
the kind of luck that hits you when you go
on and win a Super Bowl. It's like those sorts
of breaks kind of break your way where yeah, you
(04:43):
lose the top of the line wide receiver, but you
just signed a guy who's gonna be able to come
in and help carry some of that that load of
that bird moving forward. And what didn't they weren't they
without Cooper Cup when they made the runder the Super
Bowl a couple of years and they were Yeah, yeah,
I think they were without Cooper Cup there. Um, just
for me from a quarterback standpoint, how long does it
take to get a wide receiver involved and comfortable in
(05:06):
that offense? How long is this gonna take? For That's
the thing is like he you know, Cooper Cup and
Matt Stafford obviously have a great rapport and relationship with
one another, and they have to because of the type
of routes that Cooper Cup runs. He's gonna run a
lot of option routes, so he's either breaking in or
out depending on the type of leverage a defender has.
(05:27):
And because there's an element of timing in those plays.
You've got to be able to have that nonverbal communication down,
understand how the guy gets in and out of his cuts,
understanding like where he's gonna sit in the zone coverage.
Sometimes there's guys who they're gonna notice sit in the
first window and they just have a feel for going
to the next window and then sitting and that takes
(05:47):
time to develop. But Stafford cup have been able to
do that. O. B J is not gonna be in
that position, like, I don't think they're gonna put him
in that position. I think they put him in a
position where you know, he's running routes down the field,
or he's running routes where you know, maybe he's the
first option and it's a it's a timing option, right,
it's a stop ro out of nine yards stop he
runs up, stops the nine yards, the balls there on
(06:08):
on his back shoulder at those sorts of place, things
that aren't overly complicated to get a fuel for the
sensing and timing of that. And he's doing only option,
you know, so it doesn't play into how his route,
the depth of it, or how he runs. It could
mess up the rest of a concept you know, screens,
those sorts of things. So that's how I would I
(06:29):
would see him working his way in early on, and
I think that will evolve obviously as the season goes on.
You know, I think that this is one of those
moments in time where you say, is the disruption of
this injury and the acquisition and the addition of oh
b J going to be positive or is it going
(06:53):
to have a setback tone to it? And and and meaning
that we know what the positive off of this can
be in terms of the fact that you dodge a
bullet because you know, Woods goes down and and oh
b J is here. But again, I'm gonna go back
to something that that you said last last week, Brady,
(07:15):
in terms of what Robert Woods represents to this team.
He's that leader of the team. He's that that vocal leader,
he's that emotional leader. Sometimes you don't realize how much
of an impact in the presence that a player is
having on the success of a team until you don't
have that anymore. And you know, as Cooper Cup that
(07:38):
guy that can transition into that leadership role. I don't know,
do you expect O b J to be that guy
that comes in and provides that emotional spark and that leadership.
I don't know, but what I do know is this
can go one or two ways. You can see them
thrive even yet and still based upon um a tragic situation,
(08:00):
aation taking place, and but still having the ability to
fill that void or that void is too big to
fill on other levels outside of just being on the
field and what that represents to the success of this
team and just running routes and catching the ball. This
could this could linger far beyond it being based off
(08:21):
of just the play. I would also think Odell Beckham Jr.
It is smart enough to realize that, Look, things didn't
end well in New York, things didn't end well in Cleveland,
And at some point people are asking the question, well,
there's the common denominator here. Yeah, so so this is
going to be I don't I don't know if well
behaved is the right term to call, but this is
(08:43):
going to be I would think Odell Beckham, Yes, but
but but more like in tune with what you just said,
aware of what you just said, He's going to be
more aware. He's going to be more in tune. And
in fact, you would have to us assume that he's
going to go out of his way to make sure
(09:03):
that he is a positive contributor to this team. Yeah,
I would think so. And you know, whether or not
that turns into him getting uh, you know, a contract
at the end of all this, or a big deal
at the end of all this, I would just I
would venture to guess that he's going to look at
this and realize, all right, I'm on team three here.
Let's start, you know, moving towards because what is He's
(09:24):
twenty nine now, so I mean he's starting to get
to the point to where maybe teams are looking at
him going what does he have left? And and it's
not as drastic because of the injury. Yeah, and it's
not as drastic as the Antonio Brown stuff to where
he whatever the hell, it's actually more drastic in the
health aspect of it. Antonio Brown is healthy. He just wasn't,
(09:47):
you know, handling his affairs off the field properly or
in the locker room. Whereas O'Dell, you still got a
question is he healthy enough? Is there enough left based
upon health? I mean a b did freeze his feet off.
I mean, you know there's that as well too. I mean,
but that's not that's a problem. Yeah, that's a problem. Yeah.
I mean, like he turned into Encino Man one off season.
(10:08):
It's just kind of rough. You know. Encino Man was
a great movie. Would you just say that that Brendan Fraser. Yes,
be ever, I don't leave it a lot of bar
I see that on there. Listen, there was that. There
(10:30):
was also that movie where he was you know, went
to Harvard or some some school with honors. Is that
the movie back in the day with honors? Yeah, there's
that one too. Um, you know, I mean listen, he
woke up in a block of ice and Pauly Shore's garage.
I don't really think that's you know, much character depth there,
to be honest with you, you know. And uh, as
(10:50):
the sirens rolled by, I thought they were coming here.
I don't know, I probably should, but yeah, because absolutely
not absolutely not. Um. And also with the forty Niners
and their situation, Um, this is going to get another
opportunity for for people to be critical of Kyle Shanahan
(11:13):
in prime time. There's there's that as well too. You know,
just some people out there critical of Kyle Shanahan and
his performance thus far. So we get to see how
that all plays out on Monday Night Football, So it'll
be a fun one, a lot of a lot of fun.
Later on tonight, it is too Pros and a Cup
of Joe here Fox Sports Radio, Labar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knocks coming up next. Um, there's a a team
(11:33):
in the NFL who wanted to make things right based
on what happened last week. They absolutely did make things right.
We'll have that for you next, But first we want
to tell you we are brought to you by Discover.
Real credit card questions require real people, someone who understand
your issues and works to resolve them with you. That's
why Discover offers helpful US based representatives available seven. Discover
(11:57):
exceptionally common sense. So that t h in the NFL
made a statement and we should have all been paying
close attention to it. We'll get into that for you
right here on FS are be sure to catch live
editions of two Pros and a Cup of Joe with
Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knocks week days at
six am Eastern three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
(12:18):
and the I Heart Radio app. No no no no
no no no no no it's two pros and a
cup of Joe. Here Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas knocks with you here on FS are coming up
later on this hour. UM, a bizarre moment in an
NFL game played out. I don't know that I've ever
heard of this happened before, but we will have the
(12:41):
details of it four year later this hour on Fox
Sports Radio. UM. Now the Dallas Cowboys. In fact, you
know I'm gonna be nice about this, Listen. I tried
to tell you on Friday. All I do is hand
out winners here. I don't even know what it's like.
I don't know what it's like to lose with that anymore. Yeah,
and you got one. You got one here, coach, because
(13:03):
I don't even know what it's like to lose a
bet anymore. I told you the Dallas Cowboys were gonna
make things right. Uh, Dan Quinn's revenge on the Atlanta Falcons,
who are a bad football team. And Dallas went out
yesterday and laid the hammer, laid the hammer. And I
tried to tell you, Brady, and you know, jump on board,
ride me, man, just ride me all the way to
the winner circle. Because we would have got it done
(13:24):
there in that game. Yeah, can you f eight that?
For all listeners out there, you know what I meant.
You know exactly what I meant. You know exactly what
I meant. That was yesterday. I have no idea what
you're talking about, but that hard and a guy I
can't win with him? Was that a Dan Quinn revenge game? Yeah,
(13:47):
that's gotta be. I mean, I think it played a
role because that Dallas Cowboys defense completely redeemed itself from
what it looked like. That's what I done. It couldn't
get any worse. You go and you totally redeem yourself.
(14:07):
I mean, it's just I don't know what else you
make of that. Matt Ryan. I mean, he looked completely
shell shocked. That was his worst game of the season,
and it's not even close, and he's actually been having
a pretty good year. But my god, I mean it
was it was awful. It was almost as bad as
the Browns Patriots game, which got you know, eventually they
(14:30):
just threw the white flag on that one and then
CBS just turned into a completely different game. But I
don't know. I mean, look, if that version of the
Cowboys comes out every week, and obviously, you know, maybe
the Falcons are the most fraudulent team at this point.
You know, maybe there's gonna fall by the wayside. But
if that version of the Cowboys comes out every week,
Jerry Jones is gonna be a happy man come January,
(14:52):
come February? Is it me? Or when Matt Ryan looks bad,
he just looks really bad, Like what is it about him?
Is it the way and he falls? Is it? Like?
What is it about him that when he when it's
going bad, he just he looks like unwatchable. It's it's
it's the Patrick A. Ramsey effect is what I call it,
because that's what I dealt with. And in Washington, it's
(15:15):
when a guy has been hit too many times during
the duration of their career and he's just been hit
too many times and he doesn't want to get hit
like that's not some guys really are impacted by the
thought of getting hit, like the brutality of the sport itself.
(15:36):
Matt Ryan strikes me as a shell shocked guy. And
if you're able to get to him, if you're even
if you're able to hit a guy like Matt Ryan early,
this would be our scouting report, right if we're playing
against Matt Ryan, I'd be like, all right, here we go.
Like I would get in front of our guys and
I'd be like, here's what we gotta do. I don't
even care if you get a hit on that Ryan.
(15:57):
Swipe your hand at him, wave your hand at him,
swing your hands at him, scream at him, slap his legs,
no matter what it is, if you get close to him.
Was it a haunted house? I mean, guy, there are
some guys that they get rattled so easily, because for
every time that you scream, you slap at him, you
(16:18):
swat at him, there's gonna be somebody who lands home
and is able to hit him. I mean, he was
dropping the ball when they hit him. He was coughing
it up. I mean, that is a classic case of
a guy that's just been he's been hit too many
times and he doesn't like it. And that's honest, that's honest,
to God's true. That would be a scout report. That
would be a part, that would be one of the
(16:39):
paragraphs that if I were doing a scout report on
him for our guys, I would draw that it's pretty insulting.
He's not wrong. I mean, I think I think with
LaVar is speaking to us, he you know, Matt Ryan
knows at this point the biggest thing from keeping him
from playing and and you know, excelling or or even
just continue to keep getting paid what he's getting paid
(17:01):
at this point time in his career is not getting hurt.
Like it's it's easier to come back from injuries when
you're in your twenties. It gets pretty darned difficult to
come back from injuries in your thirties and be able
to play as high of a level. It's just the reality.
I mean, you're still trying to hang on to what
athleticism you've got at that point, so that that's the
(17:23):
truth of the matter. So yeah, I don't think he
wants to get hit. I think he's taken a lot
of hits and I think he knows too, and especially
with Rosen coming in after him, not that he was
set up to win when you're down by a ba
jillion points, but he knows to this gives them the
best chance to win moving forward. Like at one point
in that game, you have to be thinking like I'm
(17:44):
not trying to win anymore because we're not going to
Like I'm in survival mode, Like what gives us the
best chance of making the playoffs is me getting out
of this game healthy and being able to start over
again next week. Like that's the reality of the Falcons
right now. Okay, So when Joey Bosa made comments about
Derek Carr, and we knew if you get to him
early and you rattle him, you know early on, we
(18:05):
know he's a different player after that, like something great example,
and and and Derek Carr was bothered by it, and
probably because maybe there's an element of truth to it,
and and that bother him that that Joey Bosa went
public like that, you believe that there are players around
the NFL that look at that believe that's that's what
it is like when I when I watched Matt Ryan.
(18:26):
That would be again when I was an active player.
One of the things that I used to do is
when we did our scout reports, I would do a
breakdown on certain players, their main players, certain things that
you needed to pay attention to, certain things that could
give us a competitive edge. I would get I would
pass it out, like first I'll print it out for us,
(18:47):
and then I'll read it to us. And one of
the things that I would most certainly say about Matt
Ryan is get to him, because if we get to him,
we're gonna cause we're gonna give ourselves an opportunity to
cause turnovers. We're gonna get easy sacks. This could be
one of those sack extravaganza games. Um, and they're going
to have to rely on their run. They're going to
(19:08):
become a one dimensional team that's on the scout And
I can guarantee you that's what dan Quinn was telling
those guys and and there their scout reports. See. I
just think it's a little unfair. And here's why, um,
and you guys don't want to acknowledge this on the air,
but I'll acknowledge it on the air. I feel like
it's unfair because you guys are judging Matt Ryan next
to Teddy Bridgewater, who will go above and beyond following
(19:31):
an interception to make a tackle and make it a turnover,
to make a tame make a play. So I just
feel like you guys are going to you know, the teddy,
Teddy Bridgewater showed you he will do whatever it takes
to bring down that that defender if he's got the
football about ready. To score. I don't know if you
guys know that or not. Can our can our listeners
understand there was and that it was a fumble that
(19:54):
which I'm still curious about that call. By the way,
I don't know where Ford progress wasn't stop and all that.
But well, let's just get into the play, right, you'll
see it. All you gotta do is either you know,
put it in the old Google machine or put it
in Twitter or whatever you'll find it. Or that's a
business decision, like that's that's coming from He called him
(20:15):
Teddy business decision that that but here kind of just
defend him for a second, Like same comments I'll make now,
like what is best for the Broncos moving forward? Is
it Teddy starting this year or not? Because it is
like if you like, we've already gone through Drew lock
and that's that's not really their best chance of winning,
So Teddy starting is their best shot. He made a decision,
(20:39):
and I think probably what flashed through his head is
all the times he's been injured that have kept them
out of being able to, you know, be at a
different point time in his career as a quarterback. Like
that's the reality of it. You know, his knee injury
granted non contact in Minnesota, but then some other stuff
he's dealt with since like that's what's kept him from
(20:59):
ultimately being the guy that you know, could be a
franchise starting quarterback. So he understands it's a business decision
in the sense of, like, hey, if I want to
be able to roster and actually the last thing I
want is to try to tackle this guy separate my
throwing Ship's not not an ideal. Look though, you know,
I mean, like here and here's here's the other thing
you of all people sitting here saying, listen, I can
(21:21):
understand what he was doing. Okay, I wouldn't have been
what I did exactly because your meathead and you would
you would have tried. You would have tried to maim
somebody to get that ball back like I would have jumped.
I would have jumped on him like a hyena would have.
I literally would have. I would have just absolutely tried
to pick him up and body slam and get the
(21:43):
ball out. I just like, what was what was what
was he trying to do? Like was he trying to
get the like he was trying to maybe he thought
the play was dead I don't know, Like I honestly,
I honestly thought that's what he thinks. Like, Hey, they're
gonna review this. They're going to see that this thing
was dead like ever should have one as far as
it did. I I really do feel like that's where
(22:04):
this is gonna go. I mean, look, there's some people
out there. There's reports that are saying that, well, you know,
he may have quit on them. That he may have
uh you know he said afterwards, this is the quote
from from Teddy Bridgewater afterwards. Uh uh it's the so
so we do have this as this is the quite
the Q and a Teddy Bridgewater, uh, the greatest tackler
(22:28):
the league has ever seen. Talking with the media afterwards
about about his approach in that moment, Sid score, think
you got a chance at him? What happens? He's running
down the side of Yeah, just trying to force the
(22:48):
guy back and signed. I'll buy it. Listen that that
was that was his approach. You wanted to force him
back inside somebody else can make the tackles so they
could get the stats and on him. I think that's
a team player through and through. I don't think he
forced him anywhere, you know, it was. It was a
very passive move to think about did I want he
was He was in his head like do I want
(23:11):
to engage this guy? Does that piss his teammates off
really really bad? And film? Yeah, it's too bad. It's
gonna look awful. I mean, that's that that rewind. You know,
coaches love to rewind film like a hundred times with
one of those with the red laser, like this is
(23:31):
like this right here, and you keep rewinding it this
this right here, like I understand your quarterback, Teddy, But guys,
I want you to understand this. Um, if anybody else
does this this right here, this uh huh that right there, yep, yep,
this right here, if anybody else does this during the
(23:52):
course of this season, you will be immediately released and waved.
It says, oh man, and not includes you, Teddy. I
gotta tell you, like you're a heart and guy, but
this one includes you two. You know, we we had
a second year player when I was in Cleveland, that
oh later guy on the sideline, like literally tight end
(24:14):
running down the sideline business decision just like flat out
didn't want any part of that business now. And he
was a smaller dB. So it really was like, hey,
am I gonna wake up after this collision? And it
was a point of contention in the meeting after the loss,
and I just I remember sitting there thing to myself like, man,
(24:36):
that's the kind of stuff where you get labeled, especially
that early in your career and that seldom playing, you
get labeled with that, and then people start to look
for and moving forward. So granted, like Teddy, it's a quarterback.
I think we we all can realize what decision he made.
But toil LaVar's point, man, you do that in a
(24:57):
in a I've witnessed it. I've literally or a head
coach single like singular, like point out this play and
go off on a tirade for about five minutes dog
cussing a player. I mean, even even in real speed,
it's like, what are you doing, dude? Like I don't
I just I don't get it. It was almost like
(25:18):
he was trying to check him. I think he thought
it was coming back. I really do. I think he
thought like, hey, this there's no way the four progress
wasn't stopped, Like this isn't gonna come back. Because I'm watching,
I didn't get to hear an explanation. Um, you know,
from from any official, I don't get to hear that point.
You probably won't probably him up to That's the thing
(25:40):
about it. He had him, He had him squared up
to hit that balance zone on the shoulder. You hit
that balance zone. You showed me a man with no shoulders.
I'll show you a man with no balance And he
had the ability to to really like like giving that side,
that little side, you know what I mean. Like now,
if he stays up when you hit that balance zone,
that shoulder like bam, you hit that shoulder with your shoulder.
(26:02):
If he stays up, nobody has anything to say about it.
You know, you could have wrapped him up, but we
we will overlook that. You tried. But that pump fake
like you pump faked it. I don't know, man, Like
it looked like Chatty Bridgewater had the ball, like he
was trying to avoid the contact, Like he was like
(26:23):
doing the like little little Lamar Jackson stopping going to
the end zone just so bad. I don't know that.
It's two pros and a cup of Joe here Fox
Sports Radio coming up twelve minutes from now. A very
bizarre scene played out in an NFL game one that
we've never seen before. We will get into all the
details and that for twelve minutes from now on. On
fsl on one of us took the prop on who
(26:46):
would pass out first, that I feel like you're losing though.
I feel like I'm going down fast. I'm telling you,
if I go down, save yourself. O. Man. It is,
uh yeah, a little nicy it here, all right. So, um,
remember when Mike White was good? I mean, listen, I
don't know what the hell to ache of what happened yesterday,
(27:07):
but yeah, Mike White, he did talk about the situation.
This was the Jets quarterback after that just awful loss
to the Bills yesterday. I think I let the score
dictate my decision making. That can't happen as a quarter
You've got to be able to block that noise out
and you know, never too hot, never too low, and
execute the play called. Every player has a life of
its own and once that plays over, onto the next one.
(27:29):
And that's kind of how you need to operate as
a quarterback. In my opinion, he should have faked an injury.
He should have should have faked an injury after his
first start. I mean that's the proper way he kind
of did. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you know, like
he would have gotten a three year deal for like,
you know, twelve million or something a year, had he
just not another game to look at. You know who
(27:49):
was most disappointed they had to start this past week
and replaces Zach Wilson was Mike White. He was Let's
be real, it was the spread was what thirteen points? Yeah,
I mean they didn't have much of a shot, and
and you know, Mike White played so well it made
Zack Wilson look good this year. So if that makes
(28:11):
like seriously like like there's no one benefited more from
yesterday's performance by Mike White than Zack Wilson, I mean
like they'll be happy for him to come back, which
is probably gonna be next week because I think the
Jets didn't want to kick the tires without admitting it
on what he might look like versus the Buffalo Bills.
So keep an eye out for that. One Coming up
(28:33):
this week is we're gonna announce that Zack Wilson has
all of a sudden magically raculous recovery. Miraculous, It's amazing
how that works there. For the for the Jets only
and then the Bills you know, starting to you know,
maybe uh, you know, maybe try and get back on
track as well. The Jets are the tonic. The Jets
(28:54):
are what every team needs when you're having a little
bit of a slump. You know, we'll just call him
the slump bust. Yeah, that is, that is what the
set up to come at this point of The Jets
are the slump busters to your classy guy there, he
is the face of Wendy's here with a wrong tell
me all wrong. You can't be wrong on this one,
(29:16):
even make you wrong. You take the trip up to
New York. You know it'll it'll help you out. Serum.
That's the serum. It is two pros and a cup
of Joe. Here. Jonas has never been to New York.
So New York. No, there's no about the quote unquote Jets.
I've been to New York. The Jets a lick, just
(29:36):
not not that part, not that part of New York.
U coming up next here. This is a bizarre story
in the NFL. I don't think I've ever seen this before.
We will get into all the details for your next
is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on FSR,
be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington and
(29:57):
Jonas knocks week days at six am Eastern three am Pacific. Hey,
it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Mallery,
along with my trustee sidekick David Gascon. Would meet a
lot to have you join us on our weekly auditory journey.
You're asking one in God's name is the Fifth Hour?
I'll tell you it's a spin off of the Ben
Maller short cold hit overnights on fs ARE. Why should
(30:19):
you listen? Picture if you will the world will we
chat with captains of industry in media, sports and more
every week Explorer some amazing facts about the human nature
and more. Let'sten to the Fifth Hour with Ben Mallow
or the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever
you get your podcast. Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe Here Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
(30:39):
knocks at the Here on fs ARE. We are gonna
be back on the air, same time, same place tomorrow,
six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific here on fs ARE.
So also we're back. Yeah, Well, listen, you know, get
some things figured out here, you know, hopefully, I don't know,
I don't know if we're gonna make it all right.
(30:59):
So it is I'm for something that we we normally
do on the show here. Uh, it is a and
I'll just put it this way. It is a cut
above the rest, a scissors edition of the Scraps. We
will explain coming up next. How could you not get
to these stories? Are the Scraps? And for that story
(31:21):
and more, we turn it over to our executive producer,
Lead to Laugh to find out what the hell is
going on Lee, something you don't see every day. Uh.
Game stoppage in the middle of the Raiders Chiefs game.
Someone went to thought that it was lining up off sides,
but actually one of the Raiders players found some scissors
on the field grab them in stop the game one gameplay.
(31:45):
It had to have dropped out of like a trainer's
belt or something. You know, they have those like tape
cutting scissors on the adam in that. I mean, imagine
if they hadn't found it and somebody got tackled on that.
Imagine if a player was trying to use them scissors. Yeah,
oh oh, as like a wet not to cut somebody's
tape off while they were tackling. That interesting, that's that
(32:08):
would readefine Murkin somebody out on the tackle. You know
what I mean? Now? Is this anything? I am joking
every last boy scout? Is this anything similar to how
you know Brady Quinn used to have a you know,
some honey on the field. Uh? Didn't you used to
have a a jar of honey on the field at
(32:29):
all times or one of those little honey whatever my
calling card. It was kind of like, uh, kind of
like the wet bandits from home alone. Did you ever
leave it out on the field during a game in
the fifth yard line? You know, if you would have,
if you would have went on like and it was
more college you can't do in the NFL because there's
too many horrible It was weird. Here's how it started.
(32:51):
When I was young. I used to have like wrestling
and football really really early in the morning, and so
my dad and my uncle were like, hey, we gotta
get you like a jewel of energy. So take a
table spoon of honey, you know, give you a little
sugar high natural sugar high. So I started doing that
and it just became like almost a superstition. And then
I started like leaving it like serious about it, dead serious.
(33:17):
It was the weirdest little tradition. I thought we were
kind of coat wording. Honey, you know that story. I've
heard of guys eating like a mouthful of garlic and
onions and and and going into the game bro like steak.
You know Mark Schlab You know, he's like notoriously known
(33:38):
for like smelling horribly bad during the game, and that
gave him a competitive advantage because he would go to
the bathroom on himself, just saying they called him stink
for a reason. He wants to deal with that filthy look.
I mean, you know they call guys dirt bags. You
know what they called dirt bags? Like they do some
(34:01):
wild stuff. Man. Yeah yeah, if I started doing I
really might go to death. Some extra a little compromise,
Yeah yeah, I start trying it. Be what else you
got you guys. DK Metcalf was losing his cool at
(34:23):
the end of the games, throwing punches and getting injected. Well,
he didn't quite get the memo that he couldn't get
back into the game a few plays right on back
in the refs had to remove him from the huddle
like that. Just that's how you know he had a
blackout moment, like he was first off, he had the
whole joker look going, right, and he kind of looked
just like him without the painted face, right uh. And
(34:44):
then it's just the TLC stuff he does on his face.
Remember TLC, the band, the group, one of them, like
was it was it a right eye? Right? But this
one but right I Rodriguez or whatever name is, I'm
just saying, God man, I'm just I don't know the name.
I'm just saying like he had liked right, fine, but
but he had the joker look like you're stupid, he
(35:07):
had let's keep going all right? Anyway, I think he
blacked out and had a moment and clearly went back
into the into the game when he thought that he
was supposed to be in the game, but he wasn't.
And I feel so awkward right now because you made
me feel out. Thank you, Jonnas, thank you, thank you
(35:28):
very much. As as me being a tap bit off
right now, you had to complicate it with that, Okay,
that goes into scraps, all right, what else we got
lee you guys, if you had noticed during the Patriots
Browns game. When Jacobe Meyers scored that touchdown, the whole
team got pretty excited. There's a good reason for that.
(35:49):
He's the uh he has gone the longest without catching
a touchdown past he has a hundred thirty four receptions
and fifteen hundred plus yards. He's thrown two touchdowns, but
that was actually his first touchdown catch. Good for him,
man good for thirty eight total games. So so that's
the first. God think about that he played with Brady
and that's the first touchdown he's ever caught in his career,
(36:12):
and so he's the most. So he's the most receptions
and receiving yards without a touchdown catch in NFL history.
Think about how sad you would be to have played
with Tom Brady, the Goat and never never caught a
touchdown pass from Think about how look at all the
things jaw Kobe has been a I think he was.
(36:32):
He was an undrafted free agent if I'm not mistaken,
So he's been an incredible story. But think about the
opportunity he had to catch a touchdown pass from the
all time great and it just never hands. It just
never happened, never became, and there must have been a
time where he was close to where he probably, man,
I should have like what happened here? Like I should have? Yeah,
(36:54):
that's uh, but that's historical. That's like the last person
that goes in the draft, you know, Mr Irrelevant, you
know what I mean. So you think it's a good
thing you didn't catch a touchdown pass from Uh? Well,
I mean, look, you can you can brag about something.
I never caught a touchdown pass from him, you know,
and I played against him. Did you score in the NFL?
(37:15):
You score touchdown? I did you? Did you? It was
an interception or fumble both, So you scored a couple
of touchdowns. I have. I have a couple of my
I mean I made a couple of plays. Yeah, I wasn't.
I wasn't always you know this dude in front of you,
I made a few and by the way, Mac Jones,
(37:36):
uh the brand new Tom Brady in New England. He
was asked about Jacoby Myer's touchdown. You were one of
the first ones down to see him in the end zone.
How good did it feel to see Jacoby get his
first touchdown? Perception? That was awesome? I told him today.
I was like, you're gonna score. I didn't know that
I was going to come from a lawyer, but it
was great, soft spoken man. It's a good man. I
(37:58):
just love I love that Jones. Yeah, I mean it's
just kind of funny though too, Like who would have
been able to predict that that the first one he
would catch would end up being from Hoyer as opposed
to mac Joe were Tom Brady? Um and uh and
just you know, you hear a guy like that, just
a kind a kind soul, so happy for his teammate
there and just an aw shucks moment and then he
ripped your leg off your tour, so just you know,
(38:20):
just it's it's he didn't try that with Myles Garrett
after Miles Garrets, well, you know, and then there's that. Yeah,
it is funny, Uh you know hearing Myles Garrett talk about,
you know, how cornerbacks should behave on the field. It's
just funny about the we ever get the truth, if
you ever get the truth on that on that story
from Mason rddoff, anybody, Uh, you're gonna do that with
(38:41):
what I'm saying, You're gonna do that with like thirty
seconds you're saying it was hypocritical because he's beating a
man with his own helmet. Just you know, there's there's
a lot of mics out there. I just you know,
it's odd nobody picked that one thing up. You know,
it's just weird. I just saying, I'm just going to
get the hell out of here. The Saint LeVar please,
Hosts And Creators
Brady Quinn
LaVar Arrington
Jonas Knox
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Therapy Gecko
An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.