December 10, 2021 • 36 mins
Friday on 2 Pros and Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington are throwing in the towel on the Steelers. LaVar steals birthday cake from the breakroom and Mike McCarthy tries to add confidence gasoline to the fire for the Cowboys.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar are Brady Quinn and Jonas Knocks on
Fox Sports Radio. As Brady Quinn points out, always it
is a football all the way up until night and
more than six o'clock Pacific's it's a birthday. Birthday Friday,
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Burt Friday, birthday, birthday, birthday. Thank you, thank you very much.
Please complin you hit the button, hit the button. You
say you can't say that, you can't say that. Eddie
Garcia got something special for us. You got that, we
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got a little something special forever burno here, all right,
come on, this is I think we're I think we're ready.
I had to kind of call an audible there because
of what Jones just did. So no, what do you mean? Yes? Oho, alright,
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was that speedy Gonzalez? It was a little on the
hippo Yeah, alright, okay, unbelievable. But we're not gonna hit
the butt. I can do that. Ye can do on
the on the hippo sounds so I believe I'm afraid
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to touch it. But okay, here we go about the
happy birthday about all right? So happy that is to
Roberto and we'll be celebrating all throughout the show here
with Roberto now Pack. Well, I mean, I think that's
disrespectful and I don't think we need to sorry, right yeah,
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I was gonna say it's your birthday, man, at least. Yeah.
So I think I know what's going to happen in
the super Bowl, right and and and stop me if
I'm wrong here, But I believe that the Pittsburgh Steelers
will not be a part of this year's Super Bowl.
I'm gonna call right now. I'm gonna call right now.
I think based on what we saw last night, although
they tried to make it a game, well or is
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that just the Minnesota Viking season at a night? Is
that their tenth game decided by the final play? It's
so strange, it's such a strange team. How could you be?
What were the up? I was a twenty six nothing
at one point twenty nine. I mean, it's just uh,
Kirk Cousins. Prime Time almost almost came back. I mean,
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I know kJ Osborne on the one pick that I
kill a Witherspoon got kind of tripped. It was like
a rubb rounding kind of tripped, and then Witherspoon picked
it off. But I just I feel like in prime
time he always has a hard time like getting over
the hump of like not having that narrative. And last night,
as good as he played, Dalvin Cook kind of stole
the show. Like Dalvin Cook coming back. Yeah, not only
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coming back, but uh, he put up some cigarette yards.
I mean, here's the difference in the game. I mean,
two hundred and five yards on twenty seven carries is
is phenomenal. I mean, that's that's if you can get
that type of production from your running game. I mean,
I don't, I don't. I don't know there they could
be a problem for for someone like Green Bay, who's
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pushing for whatever the ranking is that they can get
the seating that they can get. I don't. I don't
know what this game meant for Minnesota per se the hunt.
That's all like they're still the playoff hunt. Yeah, but
I don't, you know, are they a competitor in the
hunt or are they just in the hunt for a
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playoff spot? I don't. I don't know that that question
was answered for me last night. But what I do
know is that coach Tomlin's got his work cut out
for him and and he's going to have to figure out, um,
you know, within his his pay responsibility, his his pay
pay grade, um, how to fix this team because it's
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not it's not a that's not the caliber, that's not
the standard that he's come to expect. That's not the
caliber or the standard that Steelers fans have have come
to expect from their teams. Their defense looks so bad
early on. There were there was someone said it was
Swiss cheese, like Dalvin Cook. There were points where he
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just wasn't getting touched for like ten yards down the field.
You know, I thought it was a combination, like the
offensive line steps up. But it's a little scheme to it.
The way they were like the way teams are using
now this jet sweep action, all right, And so people
don't know that is when you get a wide receiver
runs across the formation and they snap it where there's
the potential chance that he gets the football and he's
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gonna run around the edge, you don't block the defensive end.
And so why that's important is the defensive end has
to stay home because he has to respect that fly sweep.
But what it does is it gives you an extra
offensive lineman that climbs up on linebackers, and so it
almost kind of it evens up the box cut a
little bit with the way you go about using that
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wide receiver and defenses they'll never use that secondary player
that's covering that wide receiver. He never adds to the box.
If it's a man to man, he's running with him
because he's scared as hell. He's either going to release
out in a route or he's gonna get the football
and he's gonna go tackle him. And if it's a
zone coverage, usually those guys aren't taught to then come
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in to be a force defender in the box to
go make a tackle. So that's kind of the brilliance
of that play. They utilize that from time to time.
But the offensive line was kicking ass. And obviously Dalvin
Cook's just special, man that that dude is just special.
He's just never healthy the whole season. Do you guys
want to hear one of our favorite Mike Tomlin afterwards?
He's always I always I like Mike Tomlin anytime. But
Mike Tomlinson, he's got a red ass. Uh. He's talking
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about his personal relations right now, and what's what's going
on now he's uh yeah. Mike Tomlin had some things
to say. Was I'm supposed to comment on red ass?
I mean, is that possible? Can you hit the button?
How is it? How is that what you mean? That's
where we use it? I just do it applies. We
just got started, and Joe Knock sounds about as bad.
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I just don't I just don't know that it applies.
It's not trying to be a professional here. Would you
guys like to hear from Mike Tomlin our favorites, who's
a little bit piste off? Is that better? A little
shif about what happened last night? Ye? You know, just
to be blunt man, we're getting handled up front on
both sides of the ball, and that makes it difficult
to do what we desire to do. It makes it
difficult to maintain balance and makes it difficult to dictate
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to our opponents. You know what happens and what happens next.
We're not whooping enough tail, you know, we're not striking enough.
We're not making the powerfall the right direction enough, and
so I'd be remiss, might be doing that group of
disservice if I didn't look at all options we will
not be bashful about turning the stones over. Oh man,
I love him, I love Mike Tomlin. So what does
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that mean of full wholesale changes? Everybody's gone? Who's he
call up? As he hit up Greg Lloyd's egg? And
you get back here make a statement? Are we going
a secondary? What are we talking about here? LaVar? These
are your guys boyhood team. They didn't look like the
Steelers you grew up with last night? Why'd you trying
to be funny though? You know, you know Greg Lloyd
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isn't coming back to to play for this team. You
know what they have is what they have at this
point is what I would say. It's so far into
the season. You know, when your offensive line is is
not as dominant as it once was, you're not fixing
that during the course of this season. If your defensive
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line isn't dominant this year, there's the possibility that you
could find somebody like and at some point in time
in there, you know, in the NFL, like Dallas did
it with Charles Haley, and Charles Haley gave him you know,
a couple couple of games, you know, a couple of weeks.
You know, uh Alden Smith did it, you know one
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year there there. You know, in small spurts there there
have been times where players can improve a defensive front,
just from they tried with Melvin Ingram. Remember, yeah, he's
making a difference where he's at now. So I just
think that this is one of those things. They were
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there were a team that were able to achieve winning
games at a rapid clip last year, even though a
lot of people suspected that this was was a team
that was not as good as their record indicated. Now
you fast forward to this year, it you know, at
six wins, there's still a team that you look at
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and you're like, at six wins, it's like, I'm not
I'm more I'm more leaning towards them not being a
good football team than i am them being a good
football team. And and and I mean you may start
up front, and I addressed up front, but I just
still think it comes back to the fact that they
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needed to to figure out their quarterback situation. I think
they needed to be a little bit more aggressive on
how they handled that. And I think that having been
Roethlisberger back is really in a lot of ways costing them.
You know, the the amount of development that they would
need with that next guy moving forward into the future. LaVar.
I mean, if they don't get him back, they probably
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get teaching watts tracked, right, That's I mean. And and
you know, I have to be tolerant of the situation
because you know that there's some reality there. There's there.
Um So it's a full disclosure. I wrote off the
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Steelers two weeks ago, and um, I was a little
concerned because like they, you know, had a nice win
what was it last week or whatever. I was like,
all right, like that's not looking too good right now. Now.
I feel pretty confident though, in that that prediction. I mean,
it's over. The reality is and this is gonna sound controversial,
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and I sort of God, if someone from Fox Sports
Radio cuts this up like every other tweek, that's cutting
out from my quote. Okay, I'm gonna fly out to
l A and I'm gonna be knee capping people. Okay,
That's that's all I was saying. Get Ready, it's not
it's not on Mike Tomlin in any way, shape, fashion
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or form. But he's the head coach and so he
has to own it. That's I think It's what you
hear is frustration. UM. I was having a conversation last
week with someone just about being a head coach and
and if if things get stale, and this is grant.
It was talking about Brian Kelly, a Notre Dame, and
one of the comments was, you know, after about ten years,
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it's it's kind of like it gets a little stale.
I think for everyone it gets stale. I think for
the players coming in and coming out, you know that
the culture there, maybe even the university people start to
take things for granted. Uh. And I think even for
the coach. You know, it's hard to in a ten
year time and really moving on after that, it's it's
hard to really kind of adapt and change and be
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truly different and you kind of shake things up like
you might need to. And look, Mike Tomlin has been
one of the most successful head coaches in the NFL
since he took over in two thousand and seven. Like,
I'm not saying that he's the problem and he needs
to go, but I do wonder if he would want
to go to another NFL team if that operator I'm
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just saying, if that opportunity presented itself. Yeah, I don't
think so either, but but I do wonder if, like
if conversation would ever come up in the future, only
because he will be sought after. There's no doubt by
the way, he will only be sought after for any
other head coaching job. He'll be sought after for TV.
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That dude is paid for TV. I I love Mike
Tomlin presss like, could you if you're a CBS and
you're giving Romo that sort of money Chris Collins was
supposedly is asking for what thirteen and a half or
whatever that is. I believe I heard. I mean, you're
telling me Mike Tomlin can't make eighteen twenty million bucks.
If you're gonna put it, he'll be classic on TV.
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He would be awesome. So I don't know what he wants.
And I'm sure they want to get this thing turned
around and you know, move on and find Ben's replacement
and figure things out. But I do also wonder that
at some point, if if he'll maybe look to say,
maybe I want an opportunity somewhere else if that arises,
or and whether it's in football or outside football and
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TV or something like that, because he's also still young
enough where he could go out make a ton of
money and TV and take a break and come back
like again, it has nothing to do with what he's done,
his performance and all that. It's almost like, you know,
maybe at some point in the future if he wanted
to reset. I just always wonder that when I'm watching
the team and how just awful they played in the
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first half, I'm thinking to myself, like, he's too good
for this, Like he's been too good as a head
coach to be able to witness this sort of play
at times, And You're going, like, what's the disconnect here?
It's he's only forty nine years old, And that is
an interesting question if you asked him, you know, what,
do you want to be a part of a rebuild?
Because it does feel like that's sort of where this
is going, especially if they can't make a significant move
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in the off season a quarterback. Do you want to
be a part of a rebuild or would you rather
go pursue something else. I think he wouldn't consider that.
I mean it does sound feasible to I mean, you
gotta consider everything. But Mike Tomlin is back up for
well yeah, I mean I don't know what the Steelers
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are thinking in terms of doing that, but I do
know this he he did inherit an amazing job for
one uh and too you know, I just don't I
think that Mike Tomlin is no different than a Bill Kawer.
I think he's no different than a Chuck Noll. The
the errors are different, but the mentality too. When he
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was done though, yeah, he went he went into he
went into the booth, when he went to behind the desk.
But yeah, but you know, the idea of it with
with him was it really really had at the point
in time that that he left, it ran its course.
But he was there for a really really long time.
And you know, I just think that guys that coach
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for for the Pittsburgh Steelers are long tenure guys. And
when you realize how much job stability and in a
sense put it to you like this is much job
stability that you could have, it's going to exist in Pittsburgh.
So that's kind of to look for another birth somewhere
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else to to to do what you're you're gonna do.
I just think that that would be that would be
a hard one. What what did uh I think Coward
did like fourteen years or something that Tomin's now what's
been coaching as long, if not longer. Yeah, yeah, I
just I think he's one of those guys that he's
a purist. Like from all the interactions that I've ever
had with him, his mind is always on the game,
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and he's a purist. I just don't. I think he's
gonna coach until he's one of those guys. He's going
to coach until he cannot coach anymore. And I think
that he's one of those guys that if he if
he can stay in Pittsburgh, he will stay. If he's
not in Pittsburgh, it won't be because of him. That's
what I would say. That would be my assumption. Been
there since two thousand seven, um and and he and
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only forty nine years old. Man Like that him on
TV would be so clad, I'm telling you. I mean, yeah,
I just give him a blank check, Like I don't
care who the network is, give him a blank check
and just say whatever you want, man, Like that's fine,
Like do whatever you want. You can play golf during
the week, like Tony Roman, not prep I mean, come on,
why not be sure to catch live editions of Two
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Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn LaVar
Errington and Jonas Knocks week days at six am Eastern
three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. You guys, a question off topic, even
though we're all off topic anyway. So I'm hungry as hell.
Yeah you are. Are you eating bacon right now? No,
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it sounds that sounds pretty good. But so I want
to go get a coffee. Um, I'm I'm my my
people's office building. Pay some batch. Shouts out to my people.
Pay some Mattie, pretty dope games. Um, you know, uh,
skill games. But I went to to the break room
to get get some coffee, and yesterday I saw a
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birthday cake. Now, if you know me, my kryptoit, my
kryptonite is is birthday cake. Alright, my birthday. My kryptonite
is birthday cake. I ain't gonna lie, right. So I
walked by it and it's Gal's birthday and then it
takes it there. The cake is there, and it wasn't open.
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You are, and we were leaving, so I was like,
happy birthday, Gal, and I'm walking away like dangn I
really wanted a piece. It looked like it was a
really good piece of cake. It was gonna be one,
and I walked out on it. And I came into
the break room today to get a coffee and it
was in the refrigerator. It was like in the cooler.
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So I pulled it out and I but it was
like not room temperature. And you know, if you really
like birthday cake, you understand that if it's not room temperature,
it's not gonna be as good. If it's cold, it's
super cold. So so I heated it up. Have you
ever heated up a piece of cake? No? I've also
never eaten a stranger's birthday cake either. Get back to this.
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Did you stick your finger in there? Did you get
like a little there's the only gonna be like a
figure mark on side of that thing? No? No, So
it was uncut yesterday, it was it was cut up today. Okay,
So I took a nice big piece like so easy.
Have you ever met Gail All, I'm gonna say yes,
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I do. I do know Gail um And and in fact,
we we celebrated her and saying happy birthday to her
at Frank's last night. Right, all right, But here's the thing, though,
here's the point of it all. If Gail truly wanted
that cake. It would not have been in there this morning,
so I felt it though that's context clues. The context
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clues was this is, now that it's been opened and cut,
is a communal cake. Hold on, hold on, did you
finish it? I haven't finished it yet, but yeah, it's close.
See you think you're almost better off instead of taking
one piece, just finishing the whole thing so that way
there's no evidence left behind it. There's too much. There's
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too much of it left. I couldn't eat the entire ship.
Dexter to come in there too and clean up whatever
messes left. Yeah, I cleaned it up. Now. I cleaned
it up. By the looks at how technically sound this
place is. Everything I've done is on film. So my
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whole thing is I don't I don't move around this
building particularly Um. The CEO of the company is a
former ranger. Um, he walks around. He's got like, you know,
he's got a little bit of Copenhagen going on and
stuff like that. Yeah, I don't mess around. I came
in and and you know, I make sure that I
go straight to where I'm supposed to go. And when
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I went and got that cake, I didn't look suspicious,
Like I didn't look around like I should I do this.
I just did everything like it was what I was
supposed to do. This is what I came in here for.
And yeah, I didn't I know suspicion here man, not
at all? Good? All right, well done, It's happy birthday
and and the cake is the way. If you're ever
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wondering why for people who work a part of a
larger corporation or company when you have to have these
HR meetings and they have to cover some of the
dumbest stuff Leavar just contributed. Someone's gonna file a co
play with HR, and next thing you know, they're gonna
be like, oh, let's make sure we label all our
stuff in the communal fridge, and let's also make sure
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that there's potentially an item that looks like it's eaten.
It's not a communal cake anymore. You know, someone has
to like, there's gonna be some other HR issue that's
gonna come up now and waste of their five or
ten minutes in some onboarding meeting or some of their
meeting they're gonna have eventually, where's than is? People that
leave their food in the fridge for like years, and
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its things that the whole damn fridge and that messes
up your food. The favor I am favorite hero here alright,
but hold on now. But let's be clear here, there's
a difference between a refrigerator and a cooler, Like the
cooler joint is like in a in a locker room
like you put you know, gatorades and waters and and
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all that stuff that the milkshakes and all that. That's
where it was. So it was not like it did
not have the personal item feel to it, like if
it was a personal item, like, oh, this is somebody's
piece of cake. It said happy birthday, Gale on it.
How is that not personal? You know? That's kind of true.
But it didn't say happy birthday. You know if everybody
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in the office, which part of the cake was left
for you? Like what parts of you? Which ones you get? Well,
So here's the thing about it, right, had the cake
been cut while I was here, I would have been
able to get a piece. So in my mind, the logic,
simple logic to me, was is that man, that cake
is still here. I was so pumped up that it
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was there when I went to get my coffee, so
I took a hunk of the the I like the edges,
you know, because you get more icing when you when
you cut off in the edge, so there were still
edges left, You're going to say something else there. I
was like, I was very terrified. It sounded like you
were beginning to say something else. I don't know where
you thought I was going on, but I just said,
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you had no lettering left. You just took off the
edges of it. That's it. There was no the birthday
part of gal Gal was still there, but it was cut.
It was cut like you could tell they had cut
it to distribute it to people. And you know, the
nerve of some of the employees here, the people here
to not to not partake in taking the pieces that
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were already cut for them to take. And by the way,
the piece I cut was literally two to three times
bigger than the way they cut it. Good for you, you
you know, if you're if you're gonna go, go, don't
be Mike McCarthy, you know, no, go all the way in.
I'm gonna eat this cake. I'm guaranteeing you I'm gonna
eat this I'll be honest. I'm not I'm not a
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cake either, though, So I know Jonas is He's always
has been. I'm not really a cake e cakes. I
love eating the cakes, brother, every time I get my
face all up in that cake. Yeah, that's drop by
the way hand. Yes, uh, Gayle, thanks for the cake.
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It is Rosen with Joe. Here in Fox Sports Radio,
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got ourselves a a fun matchup this weekend in the
NFL between the Cowboys and the Washington football team. Uh.
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It is a division matchup, which, by the way, all
of a sudden, this does have big time implications in
the division because Dallas looked like they were going to
run away with it. Washington's gotten a little bit hot here.
Dallas has been up and down, and so this does
narrow the gap as significantly in that division. If Washington
was able to pull off a win, Dallas is a
four to four and a half point favorite, depending on
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what window, as they say you're looking at. And Mike McCarthy,
the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, spoke about the
matchup and added a little bit of a little bit
of confidence gas to the fire. We gotta do whatever
we gotta do to win the game. These guys are
very accountable. The work ethic of our football team, the
whole space is very high. They're very accountable. We know
what people think of us. We love that. We're comfortable
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who we are where we are. But I'm excited about
what's in front of us because you know we we
you know we're gonna win this game. I'm confident in that,
he said, we're gonna win this game, thinking and important.
I mean, what am my posts to say? We fully
I fully expect to win every game I've ever competed in.
I mean, that's that's what sports is all about, That's
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what the NFL. I touch. I understand how hard it is.
They're working hard, we're working hard. But yeah, we were
clearly playing on going, you know, to Washington to win
the game. I mean, there's no doubt about that. I mean,
I wish you would have just said, I think we're
going to win by more than four and a half points.
But here, here's the thing, Jonas and Brady. If you're
going to say I fully expect us to win the game,
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you just called it out that you are going to
win the game. Why tippy toe around it? Like to me,
just said, yeah, I said it, Like I don't give
a damn about their bulletin board. I don't give a
damn what they think. I could care less about what
they think. I'm guaranteeing a victory. Why dance around it.
There's not a game that I've ever went into that
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I didn't expect to win. Like, Bro, you've lost a
lot of game, you know what I mean? Like, don't
don't back away from it. If you're gonna sit there
and make a bowl proclamation and you're gonna put that
out there to the media, into the world the masses
to listen to your Dallas cowboy head coach. You know,
if you're gonna make that bowl proclamation, then living it?
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Am I wrong for that? Like? Why did he just
why did he dance around it after he said, Hey, coaches,
that bulletin board Matti aerial. I could care less if
it's bulletin board material. Yeah, it sounded like he was
playing the deep third and cover three Like he literally
said it was like, let's bail right back out of here.
Deeper than the deepest, deeper than the deepest than the deepest,
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let him get behind me. It literally sounded like he
wanted to say it, and he was like I should
know that. Are we gonna show you that? He questioned.
He was like, yeah, I mean I'm gonna be there. Wait,
oh wait, is my team going to show up? Though
I've never seen you go out there and win one.
And and here's the thing. Here's the thing about this.
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If you're paying attention, uh, Washington isn't playing bad football,
right And then good heeks been Heinek's played played last
year Tyrone heine show. We got two Tyrone's connected to
the show. You still can't get his first name right,
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Tyler Taylor. You can't figure it out. The Jonas has
called him everything to an initial basics. You mess it
up by saying tie though you know what I mean?
Like this is don't mess it up, bro. Anyway, They're
playing better football, man, They're playing better football. And you can't.
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You can't in the in the scenario that's playing out
and how things are shaping up right now, you cannot
afford to give people more motivation than what they already have.
Like they have good enough motivation. You just ratcheted it
up like a hundredfold by being the head coach that
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was Actually, I don't know what we want to call it.
What do we wanna call it? Do we wanna call
it arrogant? Do we wanna call it dumb? Do we
want to call it miss miss informed and miss a misstep?
I don't know how we want to label it. But
if you're gonna do it, then you do it. If
you're if you're gonna halfway do it, then don't do it.
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You got scared in the moment, it scared you, and
and and I didn't like that. I didn't like that
at all. Um, I think that. Let me ask you
guys this, because that's how Jonas would answer. No, I
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always expected where don't don't don't turn that, don't turn
this around me. Here's here's how I would do it.
And Brady, you should know that you work with me
long enough, I'll make a prediction, I'll call my shot,
and then if I get it wrong, I'll tell everybody
they were drunk and they listened wrong. That's how it works, right,
And I'm a professional at it. I've been doing it
for years. Mike McCarthy walks back on the statement you like.
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Do you think the players if a coach makes a
guarantee like this, does it have any impact on how
the players play? Like at all? Whatsoever? Does this put
more pressure on the players and a coachman calls a shot?
Can I just say this. I've always felt like it's
one of the things I wish I would have done more,
to be honest with you, And it's not that it
puts any more pressure on anyone else around you or
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anything else. I just know this there are some other
times where, like privately to my teammates, where I had
said something because I never wanted to be a public
guy like that or create Bolton Bore material. I was
just not trained mentally that way. But you better believe
behind closed doors, I was saying certain things and making
some guarantees, or on the huddle saying certain things and
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guaranteeing some certain things, and like those were all always
powerful moments for me. And and I wish I would
have done it more. I I really do. And maybe
I wish I would have been a little bit more
vocal about it, only because in today's world it's like
there's kind of no downside risk, Like, okay, so it
ends up being Bolton Bore material and you lose. Who cares.
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You're expecting to go out to your point to Mike
book are at this point, you're expected to go win
every game, So you're proclaiming that you're going to win
or guaranteeing it, okay, like it's not a huge difference,
and if it works out all right, you look like
a hero because you're you know, you guaranteed the win.
It's just I don't know, it's it's one of those
things that I do think and I don't know, maybe
it worked for LaVar like this, not that you needed
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a little extra motivation, but almost internally you felt like
a little bit more pressure, which I loved, Like I
loved feeling pressure in those moments or whatever else. And
it was like if I could feel a way of
like setting myself even more, I'm like, hey, you gotta
annie up to this. You're the one who made this guarantee.
Like those moments for me always felt like powerful, like
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those are ones I wish I would have done more
in my career. I think I had a few times
where players or a coach did a guarantee, like we're
going to win this game, and they said it. You know,
I always was so deeply centered and what what I
had to do during during the week, what what I
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wanted to do in the game that it never I
never paid any attention to it. Whatever my storyline was
going into the game, was my storyline. If it was
we got Dallas, it's it's Emmitt Smith, it's Troy Hambrick,
it's it's you know, it's Quincy Carter, like it. Whatever
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my storyline was, it's Keyshawn Johnson, whatever was that's my storyline.
I am going to know everything that I need to
know about it schematically, but then here's what happens as Okay,
So for me, when we get into scouting report, Monday's
Monday's we you know you. You come in, you you,
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you do your corrections, you do to your film review,
and then you go into the next week scout report.
I create a a healthy hate for their best players
immediately off the bat. If it's the quarterback, I hate him.
If it's the running back, I hate him. If it's
if it's a tight end, I hate him. And and
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before I even get into making what what it is
that I have to do this this tight end as
a blocker, So I got to deal with him. He's
a receiving titan. I gotta deal with him. Whatever it
is that I have to deal with in terms of schematically,
it comes after I hate them. So it didn't matter
if somebody guaranteed or not. I hated the dudes that
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I was going to go against, and I was going
to try to f their whole entire life up when
we got out there on the field. So my mentality
was I was going to seek and destroy whatever was
in front of me anyway, So it didn't matter if
they get I could tell you this, It was a
guarantee that I was going to impact somebody's life every
single time I went out there on the field. So
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I didn't even need any more extra motivation. I was
coming out there and I was going to be a
juggernaut no matter what, So it didn't matter to me.
I just think we need to update to our vernacular
a little bit here. I mean, who the hell uses
a bulletin board anymore? You know what I mean? Like,
when's the last time you use a bullet in the
locker room? That they even used? Try a race boards anymore?
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Feel like now there's like more high tech. But but
I will say this, that is a that has always
been a figurative word. I think at some point it
was literal. But even when we played bulletin board, bulletin
board material meant when you were in the meeting room,
it went up on on the screen. But this is
what they think of, but it didn't want to check. Ye,
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can we change that up? Do you want to go? Uh?
iPad material? Is that to iPad material? And that's a
good one that doesn't sound as tough kind of sounds
weeny power point material, you know what that sounds. We
need to though, like it should be something like a
bow tie and glasses looking at me talking trash what
I'm thinking. I'm thinking it should be called team meeting
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room material. That's a good point. Or better yet, meeting
room material. That's a good point. I think one place
I was at we actually did have like a bulletin
board and there would be some clips on there, like
it was kind of old school like that. But then
you know, sometimes the pay like fall off, or they
don't stand about the course of the week, or someone
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cuts the corner a little close like that became an issue,
you know. So it's like, I mean, it's got like
at my house. So I think we've got a bolted
board our house, and it's like crap that falls off
all the time. I'm gonna get a bolton board. Isn't
your refrigerator your bulletin board? Yeah, if they get into
why ours isn't, because it's like a first world problem thing.
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But trust me, I remember as a kid, you always
used to hang stuff up on the fridge. And then
I'm with you on that. Yes see, yeah, I knew
out of what the problem is, but vikings are too nice.
The magnets don't work on them. The most, the most
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Burt Friday, birthday, birthday, birthday. Thank you, thank you very much.
Please complin you hit the button, hit the button. You
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Garcia got something special for us. You got that, we
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got a little something special forever burno here, all right,
come on, this is I think we're I think we're ready.
I had to kind of call an audible there because
of what Jones just did. So no, what do you mean? Yes? Oho, alright,
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was that speedy Gonzalez? It was a little on the
hippo Yeah, alright, okay, unbelievable. But we're not gonna hit
the butt. I can do that. Ye can do on
the on the hippo sounds so I believe I'm afraid
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to touch it. But okay, here we go about the
happy birthday about all right? So happy that is to
Roberto and we'll be celebrating all throughout the show here
with Roberto now Pack. Well, I mean, I think that's
disrespectful and I don't think we need to sorry, right yeah,
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I was gonna say it's your birthday, man, at least. Yeah.
So I think I know what's going to happen in
the super Bowl, right and and and stop me if
I'm wrong here, But I believe that the Pittsburgh Steelers
will not be a part of this year's Super Bowl.
I'm gonna call right now. I'm gonna call right now.
I think based on what we saw last night, although
they tried to make it a game, well or is
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that just the Minnesota Viking season at a night? Is
that their tenth game decided by the final play? It's
so strange, it's such a strange team. How could you be?
What were the up? I was a twenty six nothing
at one point twenty nine. I mean, it's just uh,
Kirk Cousins. Prime Time almost almost came back. I mean,
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I know kJ Osborne on the one pick that I
kill a Witherspoon got kind of tripped. It was like
a rubb rounding kind of tripped, and then Witherspoon picked
it off. But I just I feel like in prime
time he always has a hard time like getting over
the hump of like not having that narrative. And last night,
as good as he played, Dalvin Cook kind of stole
the show. Like Dalvin Cook coming back. Yeah, not only
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coming back, but uh, he put up some cigarette yards.
I mean, here's the difference in the game. I mean,
two hundred and five yards on twenty seven carries is
is phenomenal. I mean, that's that's if you can get
that type of production from your running game. I mean,
I don't, I don't. I don't know there they could
be a problem for for someone like Green Bay, who's
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pushing for whatever the ranking is that they can get
the seating that they can get. I don't. I don't
know what this game meant for Minnesota per se the hunt.
That's all like they're still the playoff hunt. Yeah, but
I don't, you know, are they a competitor in the
hunt or are they just in the hunt for a
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playoff spot? I don't. I don't know that that question
was answered for me last night. But what I do
know is that coach Tomlin's got his work cut out
for him and and he's going to have to figure out, um,
you know, within his his pay responsibility, his his pay
pay grade, um, how to fix this team because it's
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not it's not a that's not the caliber, that's not
the standard that he's come to expect. That's not the
caliber or the standard that Steelers fans have have come
to expect from their teams. Their defense looks so bad
early on. There were there was someone said it was
Swiss cheese, like Dalvin Cook. There were points where he
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just wasn't getting touched for like ten yards down the field.
You know, I thought it was a combination, like the
offensive line steps up. But it's a little scheme to it.
The way they were like the way teams are using
now this jet sweep action, all right, And so people
don't know that is when you get a wide receiver
runs across the formation and they snap it where there's
the potential chance that he gets the football and he's
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gonna run around the edge, you don't block the defensive end.
And so why that's important is the defensive end has
to stay home because he has to respect that fly sweep.
But what it does is it gives you an extra
offensive lineman that climbs up on linebackers, and so it
almost kind of it evens up the box cut a
little bit with the way you go about using that
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wide receiver and defenses they'll never use that secondary player
that's covering that wide receiver. He never adds to the box.
If it's a man to man, he's running with him
because he's scared as hell. He's either going to release
out in a route or he's gonna get the football
and he's gonna go tackle him. And if it's a
zone coverage, usually those guys aren't taught to then come
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in to be a force defender in the box to
go make a tackle. So that's kind of the brilliance
of that play. They utilize that from time to time.
But the offensive line was kicking ass. And obviously Dalvin
Cook's just special, man that that dude is just special.
He's just never healthy the whole season. Do you guys
want to hear one of our favorite Mike Tomlin afterwards?
He's always I always I like Mike Tomlin anytime. But
Mike Tomlinson, he's got a red ass. Uh. He's talking
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about his personal relations right now, and what's what's going
on now he's uh yeah. Mike Tomlin had some things
to say. Was I'm supposed to comment on red ass?
I mean, is that possible? Can you hit the button?
How is it? How is that what you mean? That's
where we use it? I just do it applies. We
just got started, and Joe Knock sounds about as bad.
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I just don't I just don't know that it applies.
It's not trying to be a professional here. Would you
guys like to hear from Mike Tomlin our favorites, who's
a little bit piste off? Is that better? A little
shif about what happened last night? Ye? You know, just
to be blunt man, we're getting handled up front on
both sides of the ball, and that makes it difficult
to do what we desire to do. It makes it
difficult to maintain balance and makes it difficult to dictate
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to our opponents. You know what happens and what happens next.
We're not whooping enough tail, you know, we're not striking enough.
We're not making the powerfall the right direction enough, and
so I'd be remiss, might be doing that group of
disservice if I didn't look at all options we will
not be bashful about turning the stones over. Oh man,
I love him, I love Mike Tomlin. So what does
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that mean of full wholesale changes? Everybody's gone? Who's he
call up? As he hit up Greg Lloyd's egg? And
you get back here make a statement? Are we going
a secondary? What are we talking about here? LaVar? These
are your guys boyhood team. They didn't look like the
Steelers you grew up with last night? Why'd you trying
to be funny though? You know, you know Greg Lloyd
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isn't coming back to to play for this team. You
know what they have is what they have at this
point is what I would say. It's so far into
the season. You know, when your offensive line is is
not as dominant as it once was, you're not fixing
that during the course of this season. If your defensive
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line isn't dominant this year, there's the possibility that you
could find somebody like and at some point in time
in there, you know, in the NFL, like Dallas did
it with Charles Haley, and Charles Haley gave him you know,
a couple couple of games, you know, a couple of weeks.
You know, uh Alden Smith did it, you know one
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year there there. You know, in small spurts there there
have been times where players can improve a defensive front,
just from they tried with Melvin Ingram. Remember, yeah, he's
making a difference where he's at now. So I just
think that this is one of those things. They were
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there were a team that were able to achieve winning
games at a rapid clip last year, even though a
lot of people suspected that this was was a team
that was not as good as their record indicated. Now
you fast forward to this year, it you know, at
six wins, there's still a team that you look at
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and you're like, at six wins, it's like, I'm not
I'm more I'm more leaning towards them not being a
good football team than i am them being a good
football team. And and and I mean you may start
up front, and I addressed up front, but I just
still think it comes back to the fact that they
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needed to to figure out their quarterback situation. I think
they needed to be a little bit more aggressive on
how they handled that. And I think that having been
Roethlisberger back is really in a lot of ways costing them.
You know, the the amount of development that they would
need with that next guy moving forward into the future. LaVar.
I mean, if they don't get him back, they probably
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get teaching watts tracked, right, That's I mean. And and
you know, I have to be tolerant of the situation
because you know that there's some reality there. There's there.
Um So it's a full disclosure. I wrote off the
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Steelers two weeks ago, and um, I was a little
concerned because like they, you know, had a nice win
what was it last week or whatever. I was like,
all right, like that's not looking too good right now. Now.
I feel pretty confident though, in that that prediction. I mean,
it's over. The reality is and this is gonna sound controversial,
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and I sort of God, if someone from Fox Sports
Radio cuts this up like every other tweek, that's cutting
out from my quote. Okay, I'm gonna fly out to
l A and I'm gonna be knee capping people. Okay,
That's that's all I was saying. Get Ready, it's not
it's not on Mike Tomlin in any way, shape, fashion
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or form. But he's the head coach and so he
has to own it. That's I think It's what you
hear is frustration. UM. I was having a conversation last
week with someone just about being a head coach and
and if if things get stale, and this is grant.
It was talking about Brian Kelly, a Notre Dame, and
one of the comments was, you know, after about ten years,
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it's it's kind of like it gets a little stale.
I think for everyone it gets stale. I think for
the players coming in and coming out, you know that
the culture there, maybe even the university people start to
take things for granted. Uh. And I think even for
the coach. You know, it's hard to in a ten
year time and really moving on after that, it's it's
hard to really kind of adapt and change and be
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truly different and you kind of shake things up like
you might need to. And look, Mike Tomlin has been
one of the most successful head coaches in the NFL
since he took over in two thousand and seven. Like,
I'm not saying that he's the problem and he needs
to go, but I do wonder if he would want
to go to another NFL team if that operator I'm
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just saying, if that opportunity presented itself. Yeah, I don't
think so either, but but I do wonder if, like
if conversation would ever come up in the future, only
because he will be sought after. There's no doubt by
the way, he will only be sought after for any
other head coaching job. He'll be sought after for TV.
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That dude is paid for TV. I I love Mike
Tomlin presss like, could you if you're a CBS and
you're giving Romo that sort of money Chris Collins was
supposedly is asking for what thirteen and a half or
whatever that is. I believe I heard. I mean, you're
telling me Mike Tomlin can't make eighteen twenty million bucks.
If you're gonna put it, he'll be classic on TV.
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He would be awesome. So I don't know what he wants.
And I'm sure they want to get this thing turned
around and you know, move on and find Ben's replacement
and figure things out. But I do also wonder that
at some point, if if he'll maybe look to say,
maybe I want an opportunity somewhere else if that arises,
or and whether it's in football or outside football and
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TV or something like that, because he's also still young
enough where he could go out make a ton of
money and TV and take a break and come back
like again, it has nothing to do with what he's done,
his performance and all that. It's almost like, you know,
maybe at some point in the future if he wanted
to reset. I just always wonder that when I'm watching
the team and how just awful they played in the
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first half, I'm thinking to myself, like, he's too good
for this, Like he's been too good as a head
coach to be able to witness this sort of play
at times, And You're going, like, what's the disconnect here?
It's he's only forty nine years old, And that is
an interesting question if you asked him, you know, what,
do you want to be a part of a rebuild?
Because it does feel like that's sort of where this
is going, especially if they can't make a significant move
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in the off season a quarterback. Do you want to
be a part of a rebuild or would you rather
go pursue something else. I think he wouldn't consider that.
I mean it does sound feasible to I mean, you
gotta consider everything. But Mike Tomlin is back up for
well yeah, I mean I don't know what the Steelers
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are thinking in terms of doing that, but I do
know this he he did inherit an amazing job for
one uh and too you know, I just don't I
think that Mike Tomlin is no different than a Bill Kawer.
I think he's no different than a Chuck Noll. The
the errors are different, but the mentality too. When he
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was done though, yeah, he went he went into he
went into the booth, when he went to behind the desk.
But yeah, but you know, the idea of it with
with him was it really really had at the point
in time that that he left, it ran its course.
But he was there for a really really long time.
And you know, I just think that guys that coach
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for for the Pittsburgh Steelers are long tenure guys. And
when you realize how much job stability and in a
sense put it to you like this is much job
stability that you could have, it's going to exist in Pittsburgh.
So that's kind of to look for another birth somewhere
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else to to to do what you're you're gonna do.
I just think that that would be that would be
a hard one. What what did uh I think Coward
did like fourteen years or something that Tomin's now what's
been coaching as long, if not longer. Yeah, yeah, I
just I think he's one of those guys that he's
a purist. Like from all the interactions that I've ever
had with him, his mind is always on the game,
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and he's a purist. I just don't. I think he's
gonna coach until he's one of those guys. He's going
to coach until he cannot coach anymore. And I think
that he's one of those guys that if he if
he can stay in Pittsburgh, he will stay. If he's
not in Pittsburgh, it won't be because of him. That's
what I would say. That would be my assumption. Been
there since two thousand seven, um and and he and
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only forty nine years old. Man Like that him on
TV would be so clad, I'm telling you. I mean, yeah,
I just give him a blank check, Like I don't
care who the network is, give him a blank check
and just say whatever you want, man, Like that's fine,
Like do whatever you want. You can play golf during
the week, like Tony Roman, not prep I mean, come on,
why not be sure to catch live editions of Two
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Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn LaVar
Errington and Jonas Knocks week days at six am Eastern
three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. You guys, a question off topic, even
though we're all off topic anyway. So I'm hungry as hell.
Yeah you are. Are you eating bacon right now? No,
(16:38):
it sounds that sounds pretty good. But so I want
to go get a coffee. Um, I'm I'm my my
people's office building. Pay some batch. Shouts out to my people.
Pay some Mattie, pretty dope games. Um, you know, uh,
skill games. But I went to to the break room
to get get some coffee, and yesterday I saw a
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birthday cake. Now, if you know me, my kryptoit, my
kryptonite is is birthday cake. Alright, my birthday. My kryptonite
is birthday cake. I ain't gonna lie, right. So I
walked by it and it's Gal's birthday and then it
takes it there. The cake is there, and it wasn't open.
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You are, and we were leaving, so I was like,
happy birthday, Gal, and I'm walking away like dangn I
really wanted a piece. It looked like it was a
really good piece of cake. It was gonna be one,
and I walked out on it. And I came into
the break room today to get a coffee and it
was in the refrigerator. It was like in the cooler.
(17:46):
So I pulled it out and I but it was
like not room temperature. And you know, if you really
like birthday cake, you understand that if it's not room temperature,
it's not gonna be as good. If it's cold, it's
super cold. So so I heated it up. Have you
ever heated up a piece of cake? No? I've also
never eaten a stranger's birthday cake either. Get back to this.
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Did you stick your finger in there? Did you get
like a little there's the only gonna be like a
figure mark on side of that thing? No? No, So
it was uncut yesterday, it was it was cut up today. Okay,
So I took a nice big piece like so easy.
Have you ever met Gail All, I'm gonna say yes,
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I do. I do know Gail um And and in fact,
we we celebrated her and saying happy birthday to her
at Frank's last night. Right, all right, But here's the thing, though,
here's the point of it all. If Gail truly wanted
that cake. It would not have been in there this morning,
so I felt it though that's context clues. The context
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clues was this is, now that it's been opened and cut,
is a communal cake. Hold on, hold on, did you
finish it? I haven't finished it yet, but yeah, it's close.
See you think you're almost better off instead of taking
one piece, just finishing the whole thing so that way
there's no evidence left behind it. There's too much. There's
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too much of it left. I couldn't eat the entire ship.
Dexter to come in there too and clean up whatever
messes left. Yeah, I cleaned it up. Now. I cleaned
it up. By the looks at how technically sound this
place is. Everything I've done is on film. So my
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whole thing is I don't I don't move around this
building particularly Um. The CEO of the company is a
former ranger. Um, he walks around. He's got like, you know,
he's got a little bit of Copenhagen going on and
stuff like that. Yeah, I don't mess around. I came
in and and you know, I make sure that I
go straight to where I'm supposed to go. And when
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I went and got that cake, I didn't look suspicious,
Like I didn't look around like I should I do this.
I just did everything like it was what I was
supposed to do. This is what I came in here for.
And yeah, I didn't I know suspicion here man, not
at all? Good? All right, well done, It's happy birthday
and and the cake is the way. If you're ever
(20:20):
wondering why for people who work a part of a
larger corporation or company when you have to have these
HR meetings and they have to cover some of the
dumbest stuff Leavar just contributed. Someone's gonna file a co
play with HR, and next thing you know, they're gonna
be like, oh, let's make sure we label all our
stuff in the communal fridge, and let's also make sure
(20:41):
that there's potentially an item that looks like it's eaten.
It's not a communal cake anymore. You know, someone has
to like, there's gonna be some other HR issue that's
gonna come up now and waste of their five or
ten minutes in some onboarding meeting or some of their
meeting they're gonna have eventually, where's than is? People that
leave their food in the fridge for like years, and
(21:03):
its things that the whole damn fridge and that messes
up your food. The favor I am favorite hero here alright,
but hold on now. But let's be clear here, there's
a difference between a refrigerator and a cooler, Like the
cooler joint is like in a in a locker room
like you put you know, gatorades and waters and and
(21:25):
all that stuff that the milkshakes and all that. That's
where it was. So it was not like it did
not have the personal item feel to it, like if
it was a personal item, like, oh, this is somebody's
piece of cake. It said happy birthday, Gale on it.
How is that not personal? You know? That's kind of true.
But it didn't say happy birthday. You know if everybody
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in the office, which part of the cake was left
for you? Like what parts of you? Which ones you get? Well,
So here's the thing about it, right, had the cake
been cut while I was here, I would have been
able to get a piece. So in my mind, the logic,
simple logic to me, was is that man, that cake
is still here. I was so pumped up that it
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was there when I went to get my coffee, so
I took a hunk of the the I like the edges,
you know, because you get more icing when you when
you cut off in the edge, so there were still
edges left, You're going to say something else there. I
was like, I was very terrified. It sounded like you
were beginning to say something else. I don't know where
you thought I was going on, but I just said,
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you had no lettering left. You just took off the
edges of it. That's it. There was no the birthday
part of gal Gal was still there, but it was cut.
It was cut like you could tell they had cut
it to distribute it to people. And you know, the
nerve of some of the employees here, the people here
to not to not partake in taking the pieces that
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were already cut for them to take. And by the way,
the piece I cut was literally two to three times
bigger than the way they cut it. Good for you, you
you know, if you're if you're gonna go, go, don't
be Mike McCarthy, you know, no, go all the way in.
I'm gonna eat this cake. I'm guaranteeing you I'm gonna
eat this I'll be honest. I'm not I'm not a
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cake either, though, So I know Jonas is He's always
has been. I'm not really a cake e cakes. I
love eating the cakes, brother, every time I get my
face all up in that cake. Yeah, that's drop by
the way hand. Yes, uh, Gayle, thanks for the cake.
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It is Rosen with Joe. Here in Fox Sports Radio,
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got ourselves a a fun matchup this weekend in the
NFL between the Cowboys and the Washington football team. Uh.
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It is a division matchup, which, by the way, all
of a sudden, this does have big time implications in
the division because Dallas looked like they were going to
run away with it. Washington's gotten a little bit hot here.
Dallas has been up and down, and so this does
narrow the gap as significantly in that division. If Washington
was able to pull off a win, Dallas is a
four to four and a half point favorite, depending on
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what window, as they say you're looking at. And Mike McCarthy,
the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, spoke about the
matchup and added a little bit of a little bit
of confidence gas to the fire. We gotta do whatever
we gotta do to win the game. These guys are
very accountable. The work ethic of our football team, the
whole space is very high. They're very accountable. We know
what people think of us. We love that. We're comfortable
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who we are where we are. But I'm excited about
what's in front of us because you know we we
you know we're gonna win this game. I'm confident in that,
he said, we're gonna win this game, thinking and important.
I mean, what am my posts to say? We fully
I fully expect to win every game I've ever competed in.
I mean, that's that's what sports is all about, That's
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what the NFL. I touch. I understand how hard it is.
They're working hard, we're working hard. But yeah, we were
clearly playing on going, you know, to Washington to win
the game. I mean, there's no doubt about that. I mean,
I wish you would have just said, I think we're
going to win by more than four and a half points.
But here, here's the thing, Jonas and Brady. If you're
going to say I fully expect us to win the game,
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you just called it out that you are going to
win the game. Why tippy toe around it? Like to me,
just said, yeah, I said it, Like I don't give
a damn about their bulletin board. I don't give a
damn what they think. I could care less about what
they think. I'm guaranteeing a victory. Why dance around it.
There's not a game that I've ever went into that
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I didn't expect to win. Like, Bro, you've lost a
lot of game, you know what I mean? Like, don't
don't back away from it. If you're gonna sit there
and make a bowl proclamation and you're gonna put that
out there to the media, into the world the masses
to listen to your Dallas cowboy head coach. You know,
if you're gonna make that bowl proclamation, then living it?
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Am I wrong for that? Like? Why did he just
why did he dance around it after he said, Hey, coaches,
that bulletin board Matti aerial. I could care less if
it's bulletin board material. Yeah, it sounded like he was
playing the deep third and cover three Like he literally
said it was like, let's bail right back out of here.
Deeper than the deepest, deeper than the deepest than the deepest,
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let him get behind me. It literally sounded like he
wanted to say it, and he was like I should
know that. Are we gonna show you that? He questioned.
He was like, yeah, I mean I'm gonna be there. Wait,
oh wait, is my team going to show up? Though
I've never seen you go out there and win one.
And and here's the thing. Here's the thing about this.
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If you're paying attention, uh, Washington isn't playing bad football,
right And then good heeks been Heinek's played played last
year Tyrone heine show. We got two Tyrone's connected to
the show. You still can't get his first name right,
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Tyler Taylor. You can't figure it out. The Jonas has
called him everything to an initial basics. You mess it
up by saying tie though you know what I mean?
Like this is don't mess it up, bro. Anyway, They're
playing better football, man, They're playing better football. And you can't.
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You can't in the in the scenario that's playing out
and how things are shaping up right now, you cannot
afford to give people more motivation than what they already have.
Like they have good enough motivation. You just ratcheted it
up like a hundredfold by being the head coach that
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was Actually, I don't know what we want to call it.
What do we wanna call it? Do we wanna call
it arrogant? Do we wanna call it dumb? Do we
want to call it miss miss informed and miss a misstep?
I don't know how we want to label it. But
if you're gonna do it, then you do it. If
you're if you're gonna halfway do it, then don't do it.
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You got scared in the moment, it scared you, and
and and I didn't like that. I didn't like that
at all. Um, I think that. Let me ask you
guys this, because that's how Jonas would answer. No, I
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always expected where don't don't don't turn that, don't turn
this around me. Here's here's how I would do it.
And Brady, you should know that you work with me
long enough, I'll make a prediction, I'll call my shot,
and then if I get it wrong, I'll tell everybody
they were drunk and they listened wrong. That's how it works, right,
And I'm a professional at it. I've been doing it
for years. Mike McCarthy walks back on the statement you like.
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Do you think the players if a coach makes a
guarantee like this, does it have any impact on how
the players play? Like at all? Whatsoever? Does this put
more pressure on the players and a coachman calls a shot?
Can I just say this. I've always felt like it's
one of the things I wish I would have done more,
to be honest with you, And it's not that it
puts any more pressure on anyone else around you or
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anything else. I just know this there are some other
times where, like privately to my teammates, where I had
said something because I never wanted to be a public
guy like that or create Bolton Bore material. I was
just not trained mentally that way. But you better believe
behind closed doors, I was saying certain things and making
some guarantees, or on the huddle saying certain things and
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guaranteeing some certain things, and like those were all always
powerful moments for me. And and I wish I would
have done it more. I I really do. And maybe
I wish I would have been a little bit more
vocal about it, only because in today's world it's like
there's kind of no downside risk, Like, okay, so it
ends up being Bolton Bore material and you lose. Who cares.
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You're expecting to go out to your point to Mike
book are at this point, you're expected to go win
every game, So you're proclaiming that you're going to win
or guaranteeing it, okay, like it's not a huge difference,
and if it works out all right, you look like
a hero because you're you know, you guaranteed the win.
It's just I don't know, it's it's one of those
things that I do think and I don't know, maybe
it worked for LaVar like this, not that you needed
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a little extra motivation, but almost internally you felt like
a little bit more pressure, which I loved, Like I
loved feeling pressure in those moments or whatever else. And
it was like if I could feel a way of
like setting myself even more, I'm like, hey, you gotta
annie up to this. You're the one who made this guarantee.
Like those moments for me always felt like powerful, like
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those are ones I wish I would have done more
in my career. I think I had a few times
where players or a coach did a guarantee, like we're
going to win this game, and they said it. You know,
I always was so deeply centered and what what I
had to do during during the week, what what I
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wanted to do in the game that it never I
never paid any attention to it. Whatever my storyline was
going into the game, was my storyline. If it was
we got Dallas, it's it's Emmitt Smith, it's Troy Hambrick,
it's it's you know, it's Quincy Carter, like it. Whatever
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my storyline was, it's Keyshawn Johnson, whatever was that's my storyline.
I am going to know everything that I need to
know about it schematically, but then here's what happens as Okay,
So for me, when we get into scouting report, Monday's
Monday's we you know you. You come in, you you,
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you do your corrections, you do to your film review,
and then you go into the next week scout report.
I create a a healthy hate for their best players
immediately off the bat. If it's the quarterback, I hate him.
If it's the running back, I hate him. If it's
if it's a tight end, I hate him. And and
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before I even get into making what what it is
that I have to do this this tight end as
a blocker, So I got to deal with him. He's
a receiving titan. I gotta deal with him. Whatever it
is that I have to deal with in terms of schematically,
it comes after I hate them. So it didn't matter
if somebody guaranteed or not. I hated the dudes that
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I was going to go against, and I was going
to try to f their whole entire life up when
we got out there on the field. So my mentality
was I was going to seek and destroy whatever was
in front of me anyway, So it didn't matter if
they get I could tell you this, It was a
guarantee that I was going to impact somebody's life every
single time I went out there on the field. So
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I didn't even need any more extra motivation. I was
coming out there and I was going to be a
juggernaut no matter what, So it didn't matter to me.
I just think we need to update to our vernacular
a little bit here. I mean, who the hell uses
a bulletin board anymore? You know what I mean? Like,
when's the last time you use a bullet in the
locker room? That they even used? Try a race boards anymore?
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Feel like now there's like more high tech. But but
I will say this, that is a that has always
been a figurative word. I think at some point it
was literal. But even when we played bulletin board, bulletin
board material meant when you were in the meeting room,
it went up on on the screen. But this is
what they think of, but it didn't want to check. Ye,
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can we change that up? Do you want to go? Uh?
iPad material? Is that to iPad material? And that's a
good one that doesn't sound as tough kind of sounds
weeny power point material, you know what that sounds. We
need to though, like it should be something like a
bow tie and glasses looking at me talking trash what
I'm thinking. I'm thinking it should be called team meeting
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room material. That's a good point. Or better yet, meeting
room material. That's a good point. I think one place
I was at we actually did have like a bulletin
board and there would be some clips on there, like
it was kind of old school like that. But then
you know, sometimes the pay like fall off, or they
don't stand about the course of the week, or someone
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cuts the corner a little close like that became an issue,
you know. So it's like, I mean, it's got like
at my house. So I think we've got a bolted
board our house, and it's like crap that falls off
all the time. I'm gonna get a bolton board. Isn't
your refrigerator your bulletin board? Yeah, if they get into
why ours isn't, because it's like a first world problem thing.
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But trust me, I remember as a kid, you always
used to hang stuff up on the fridge. And then
I'm with you on that. Yes see, yeah, I knew
out of what the problem is, but vikings are too nice.
The magnets don't work on them. The most, the most
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