January 5, 2022 • 39 mins
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks and coming up on
the show, Baker Mayfield makes a decision and it's a
little bit curious the timing and all. We're also going
to take a look at what would be a clown
show literally in Jacksonville this weekend. We've got a brawl
involving an NFL player at a Walgreens. We've got an
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agenda against Aaron Rodgers. We've got some more Jim Harbaugh rumors,
and also the Great Petro's Papadakis stops by the old
p first time in two All of it is yours
coming up next year on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah yeah, yeah, man, Yeah,
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come on, it's two and let me do this correctly,
let me open this up correct Hey, two pros and
a cup of radio. I was having a real moment, right,
you just go mess with well, I thought we were
past the groovy part on this something else. You know,
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you gotta do what makes you feel good. Yeah, I
just gotta gotta get that out early in the It's
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We appreciate you doing so. We will take you all
the way up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock
Pacific here on fs ARE. We're approaching the final week
of the regular season in the NFL. Uh teams already
acknowledging that they are out, that they are finished, that
they are done. Uh. Yeah, it's just and some players,
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in particular, some quarterbacks who have acknowledged that they are done.
And one of those quarterbacks would be Baker Mayfield, who
is now electing to have surgery, obviously dealing with the
shoulder injury that he's been nursing throughout the course the
majority of the season. But he is going to have
the surgery asap. He's going to be out this Sunday
against Cincinnati, And Uh, I gotta be honest with you,
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I just don't get it. Uh, there's one game left.
They were eliminated on Monday night, and he still played Brady.
I can't make sense of why this would be the
move that he would need to opt out or or
be done with the regular season a game early as
opposed to going out there with his guys. Uh So,
when this initially came out, my first thought was, well,
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then why did he play Monday night if they were
already eliminated going into that game. Now the reason being
would be he prepared the entire time to be the starter.
He'd really be putting case Keenom in a tough spot.
He would have been putting his entire team in a
tough spot because they were eliminated after the results of
the games on Sunday. So kind of made some sense
at that point that he would just go out play
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the Monday football game and then elect to get this surgery.
And I do wonder if they even had conversations before
that game. But I'm with you, like, what's a week?
I mean, seriously, like what's a week in the difference
of him coming back from a non throwing shoulder posterial
labor tear fixed to to what's going on there. So
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I it doesn't make as much sense to me unless
this is what's at play, Unless he feels or is
getting signals from the team that maybe he's not gonna
be there next year. I mean, they picked up his
fifth year option. It's fully guaranteed, so they're on the
books for the eight team million or so whatever the
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number is, eighteen point nine something like that, which is,
by the way, a very economical amount for a starting
quarterback in the NFL. If you believe, you know that's
you know, that's what he's gonna be next year from
the Cleveland Browns. But I do wonder if he decided
to say, we've got one game left, but we're not
going to the postseason, and I don't know what's gonna
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happen right now with the team. So I'd rather sit
here and take care of myself as opposed to put
in my self back out there to get a win
for this team where I don't know that they're not
gonna deal me and they're not gonna send me elsewhere
and try to make a trader trying to figure out
how to upgrade it this position or replace me. So
why shouldn't I look out for my best interest? Maybe
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that's what's playing out right now. Uh, you definitely have
to protect yourself at this this point in time. I mean,
I think that that logic makes perfectly good sense. You
you practice all week, you you finish out. Um. In
terms of what this looks like for his future, I
think a lot is up in the air. They grossly
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underachieved this season. No one would dispute that. Uh how
much of that falls on him internally? Uh, it may
be very different than external forces and how those things
are being discussed. But why why risk it right? Why
why play another week when you could be getting yourself
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he'll up and getting yourself repaired for for your future.
I mean, I think that for what it's worth, it's
logical to say, if I haven't gotten or received or
redone my contract for a long term contract, and I
do have one more year left on my contract, then
I should start preparing myself for next season. And if
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that means I'm going to be a part of this
team next year, then you know what, I want to
be as healthy as I can be going into the summer.
You know, the O T A s or the mini
camps depending on how all that stuff goes with with
COVID or whatever. But I think that he's going to
want to be think about it, this way, right, Guys,
if he plays well, if he were to play this
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upcoming week and he plays well, does that boat better
in the long run than him coming and getting as
healthy as he can for the upcoming preparation for next season,
like the mini camps and different things like that. You know,
to me, if he's if he's still behind health wise
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during during the mini camps, then that says that that
sets off a red flag to the guys that are
making the decisions that you know, maybe he's not going
to be ready. Maybe he's not. Maybe we're going to
have to go through an entire season again of Baker
being hurt and being injured. So I think that he's
making a logical decision here to try to get himself
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repaired and gets as healthy as he can. I just
think it makes sense. Just but it's just a week.
Like I don't I don't know. My thing is can
he hurt it anymore? Like if this was one thing
to where it was his throwing shoulder and it was
similar to a Drew Breese who got hurt regular season
finale in San Diego, and it was there was questions
about whether or not he could play again. You know,
I could understand that. But if it's a non throwing
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shoulder he's been dealing with the majority of the year,
to me, he would earn a lot of whether you
want to say, credibility, respect, whatever word you want to use,
if you want out there acknowledging, Hey, we're out, but
I'm not leaving you guys behind. We're gonna go out there.
We're gonna do this together. And maybe I'm looking at
it from and you know, just sort of being a
little bit but already, but they already did that. He
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he has already done that. He had he could have
probably went and got that surgery long before now, right,
But I get what Jonas is saying is he's saying
he's kind of because he's competitive and he's doing it
for his team and all that that he's trying to
stick it out and and now I guess their postseason,
since those aspirations are done, it's like, well, now he's
just gonna throw in the talent it. He's basically saying,
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like pulling Matt Correll, if you're gonna play in what
is a meaningless game in the NFL, it's really only
gonna hurt their draft order. Wherever However, this you know,
season ends and where they end up. I mean, there's
probably some Browns fans are like, hey, we wouldn't mind
losing this just so he end up in a spot
where a little bit closer it's not going to be
a successful season anyway. And we talked about a little
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bit yesterday. The reality is like, like a lot of
places do these like what postseason grades on or you know,
season reviews when you look back, I think it's the
stupidest thing in the world because in the NFL, everything's
past fail. Like you either did what you were hoping
you were gonna do. You made it to the playoffs
you wanted to run, You won the Super Bowl, you
won the a f C, NFC, whatever the case, maybe
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you won your division or you didn't. And for Cleveland,
it was a really big step back from what they
were a year ago. You know, they were a playoff team.
They beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, like they took a huge
stride for this organization since they came back in and
this year they took almost a step back. I mean
maybe two steps back depend on how you look at it.
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But there was a lot of you know, extenuating circumstances
with COVID, with injuries, you know, even with the coaching
staff not being able to be a part of it.
So there's there's reasons for that, and I understand, you know,
every team deals with that, but they probably dealt with
a little bit worse this season. So like, I kind
of see the whole thing and what's going on. I
just think the aiming of this, and Jonas had kind
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of pointed this out is really interesting as to when
he's decided now to say, all right, enough enough, like
what is one more game and trying to ride this
thing out with your teammates and with your guys. But
if you feel like, hey, there's no point in it
because we don't have any postseason aspirations now, let case
Keenum have a week to prepare and give him a shot,
so be it. I just I would hope that you'd
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want to try to go out on a better note
than what we saw the last two games. And I think, look,
I I like Baker Mayfield probably more than a lot
of people. And I do think he gets hammered by
a lot of people in the media, maybe too much so,
because he's shown that he can be bothered by it
and he'll buy it back like I like him too.
I think he should be the longest term guy. But
he does bring a lot of this on it. I
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totally agree. But that being said, I mean, this was
Baker Mayfield post game. And if you were to tell
me after these comments, what do you think he's going
to do for the regular season finale? I would just
assume he was going to play based on these comments
following Monday's game at Pittsburgh. Gonna always be pretty or smooth,
But I'm a fighter. Uh. If anybody ever questions so much,
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I wanted to just turn on this tape. It was pretty,
but I kept going, kept swinging. Um. That's who I am,
and that's what I continue to be. UM and so
I've always been. So I'm just a little surprised why
he decided he didn't want to play again. Uh. I
think that you could use the logic the totally opposite direction, right.
It doesn't It doesn't always have to be cynical or
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and and and and the approach of it. You you
can look at it from the standpoint of he again,
he has wrote written it out with his guys. They
have written it out together and wrote it out together
and and and for what it's worth. Where they're at
right now, who knows what the internal conversations are. Right
Let's get you ready for for next season. You know,
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if they were, if they were in a position where
I mean, I guess now that doesn't really matter. But
I mean in years past, you you have guys that
they rest up on on the last week before the
playoffs and they don't play until they get into the
first round. If you're saying that this is and and
for what it's worth, I mean, let's let's look at
it that face value on this. If you're thinking that
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he's your which we don't know of Cleveland's thinking this
yet or not, but if you're thinking this is your
franchise quarterback, a week does matter. It does matter to
to to get everything going, to get the process the
road of recovery, uh and and being repaired. It does matter.
And so if you're looking at him and you're valuing
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him as your franchise guy, then that's something that I
would assume internally everybody is aware of that. I would assume,
you know, Miles Garrett and and the rest of these guys,
Juice and all those guys realize how much pain the
dude is in and how much he's pushing to get through.
I mean when when I did the game against Detroit,
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Cleveland versus Detroit, and I did the interviews with him,
you know the way that those those players talked about
Aker Mayfield. I mean, Juice Landry said that he wouldn't
he wouldn't, he would wouldn't rather play for another quarterback
other than Baker Mayfield, which is to me is high praise.
You know, look, I love that. It's a great sentiment
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and statement. He's his quarterback. Now you put his ass
with Tom Brady or Aeron Rode. Yeah, you know, I
get I get that too, But I mean the beautiful
but in the world Ali Berry online too. Sorry, bab,
I gotta go giferent name, but I would you signed here?
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But but again, for the thought of it. In the moment,
it seemed genuine and and if they caught up, hold on,
did you get caught up in that production meeting? Uh?
I felt a little bad for him listening to the
way they sounded and in the way that they were
trying to make sense of things. I might have got
a little caught up into if they could have played
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some soundtrack music underneath it, like it would have been
like more of that soft or it would have been
e E N Y, it would have been something like
Book of Days. You know. Yeah, was there anybody you
were talking to your like, yeah, they're full of crap.
I'm a former player. I know this goes. They're just
not telling the truth. Coach Wood, Yeah, yeah, I said,
Coach Wood. He really wanted Hey, Glenn, Hey, Glenn wanted
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to really say some other things I could tell you
he wanted to, you know, but but he just you know,
you you mask that way. We just got to get better.
You know, that's when when you coach, when you hair
coach can't say anything really good, and then at a
certain point they say, you know, we just got to
get better. That's code work before we stink. These dudes stink.
I got a bunch of stink and they've given me
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this to maintain my job. You just have to find
five minutes with the coach before the production meeting, after
the production meeting, or on the field, if you have
a chance to get a practice or walk through, that's
when you get the real info. And then, you know,
as an analyst, especially talking on TV, you have to
decide like does it fit, does it make sense? Should
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I even say this? Or how do I say this?
Like that's where you start to develop relationships with them
where they can be a little bit more candid into
production meetings because they'll hear if you like, out them
about something that you said. But they're not gonna trust
everyone in that production meeting room. So it's not even
about like the coach not trusting the analyst. It's more
about other people sitting in the room because they know
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how TV works and they know a lot of the
you know, producers, directors, other people involved. They'll talk and
if you say enough in those production production meeting rooms
and it gets out, you start to hear those rumor mills.
You know, it's not coming from the analyst. It's usually
coming from the other people who are involved, you know,
around the production of that game up next. If you've
been listening to this show over the past couple of months,
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we tried to warn you, tried to tell you, tried
to get everybody a clue, tried to let them all
know what was really going on with one team in
the NFL that was on the verge of a Super Bowl,
not that long ago, and it turned turns out we
were on spot on. We'll give you all the details
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I was expecting something else, all right, and I think
I'm getting fast. We've already taken one dump. I'm not
gonna dump on you again. So I got dumped yesterday,
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and you know what, I don't feel like I was
supposed to get dump perfect. I gotta be honest. I mean,
you come from a preacher's household, Like, I don't think
you really used the term they thought you did. Yeah,
I didn't. It was a t on there, yeah, And
I said darn on top of that. You know, it's
like I can't even give you the example because I
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might get dumped, but it certainly is not a term
that that was, you know, yeah, I am a preacher's kid. Yeah,
there's I understand the terminology and where you can go
and where you can't go. I mean, but if it's
you know, it's like in the NFL, there's a penalty
or not. If it was a bad call still counts
as a penalty. I mean, I mean when it comes
to the dump, you know scale and dump ratings here
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so far in two LaVar's high atop the lists. Kids
have potty mouths though, and and they're they're freaks. You know,
what do you mean by that? You know, you get
a church camp or something, you live a little you
live a little bit more on the edge because you
know all the rules and regulations. Oh, I'm sorry, I
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was about to say too much. So that's I'm just saying.
You know, I'm just saying, you know, you can get forgiveness,
that's all. Yeah. Oh, I thought it was gonna be
more of like you kind of know, like right and wrong,
so you kind of live, you know, on the edge
of that wrong, where like some people might just be
ignorant to all of it, so they're just like, I
don't know what I should be doing here. You know,
you know exactly what you should be doing. You know
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the difference between right and wrong, but you also know
that you always have a chance to be forgiven. Yeah,
like do real bad things, and then if you know
the Bible well enough, you're like, well, this character and
the Bible did this, and this was way worse than
what I did, and they got forgiveness for it. So
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I'm just gonna go ahead and shoot my shot. You know.
That's how you know young you know, preachers, kids like
myself used to handle all right, So we're gonna have
another edition of in case you missed it, coming up
later on in the hour. But in case you might
have missed this show. Over the past a couple of months,
we've been trying to tell you that the armpit fart
of the NFL is the Jacksonville Jaguars. They can try
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and pin it on Urban Meyer, and we gotta get
rid of herb. He's the problem, and they can have
a nerdy of course, yeah, he was. He was the
fall guy, was like Chris Carter at the Rookie Symposium.
And then all of us, all of a sudden, we
approach Week eighteen in the NFL, and uh, as it turns,
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according to the Associated Press, There was a report that
came out Mark Long of the Associated Press who says
that some Jaguars fans are planning to dress up as
clowns for this Sunday's finale against the Indianapolis Colts. So
we're gonna have an old fashioned clown out. Back in
the day, it was the brown paper bags over the
faces at New Orleans Saints game. They call him the
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ants Brady Quinn. The Jacksonville Jaguars are taking it up
a notch. We're gonna get clowns at whatever the hell
that stadium is with swimming pools in the top deck.
How about that. The clowns are also going to have
the signature mustache that is on buy shot Kan just
to represent that's actually who they are referring to as
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a clown. So kind of interesting. I mean, look, this team,
outside of one miracle run thanks to playoff Leonard four
Nett and an unbelievable defense to the a f C
Championship game. Outside of that one miracle season aberration, whatever
you wanna call it, they haven't been anything close to that.
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And a lot of it has to do again with
shot Con, you know, overseeing all of this, and I
think really falling victim to what a lot of owners
fall victim to. They make their money in some other
industry and then they buy an NFL franchise or a
sports franchise and a team, and they think that they
can just you know, have success because they've got a
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ton of money and it and it always strikes me
as odd because for the most part, a lot of
the lessons are ways that these owners made their money,
if they even made it, if they're not in hurning
it right, it was the fundamentals and things that like,
they're not applying to the NFL franchise and and that's
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where they kind of fall apart and go wrong. So
the reality is for Shot Khan, you know, he's lucky
he's not in a bigger market. If can you imagine
if this team moved to London the amount of flak
he would take if they were as bad as they
have been since he's taken over his owner, I mean,
it would be it would be a blood bath in
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that sports media market, considering like the buttons you know
they push over there across the pond. But it's it's
tough to watch this and it's tough even more just
to listen to all the media that again you wanted
to make urban Meyer the scapego you will once he leaves,
you see just even how bad this team is evil
without him. And I feel terrible for Trevor Lawrence because
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at the end of the day, he is one of
the most draftable prospects we had ever seen in that
number one overall position and he has thrusted into a
bad organization that's ultithing gonna eat away of what he
can truly be as a player and as a town
in the NFL. And it's a sad, sad deal, and
it happens all too often, and you know what, it'll
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just be moving on. Here's another sad story of can't
miss prospect that missed. It's it just happens way too often.
And that's that's just the reality of what pro football,
you know, pro sports in general, you know it presents.
I mean, think about this. They were less than three
minutes away. There was under three minutes to go at
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Foxboro in the a f C title game. They had
a lead to go to the super Bowl. That was
less than four years ago. What the hell happened? And
that that roster and take you a Jalen Ramsey and
studs his Brady point at Leonard four Nette and there
was a player that was missed by Leonard Fournette in
that game. But if he would have said, hey, less
than four years from now, Urban Meyer will have come
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and gone. Jalen Ramsey and all those superstars are gone.
Oh and by the way, and the regular season finale, uh,
fans are gonna dress up like clowns with a shot
Khan mustache and show up to the game. People have
thought you were crazy. That's what a disaster this team
has been. And and just to see it play. That's
why I'm fascinated to see who they end up with
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as a coach, Like like what like what what is
the direction they're gonna take here? And and Trent Balky
The report is he saved. But I don't know how
you're not looking at this entire thing going. This is
a problem, that's all. That's the other part of the frustration, right,
is that they're keeping Bulky as a part of it.
I think the fans are wise to his track record
and just how this whole thing is run and the
fact that he survived the last regime. He was the
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hold over from the last regime, and maybe you know
that's if you asked urban Meyer, one of the mistakes
he made was keeping Trent Bulky in place and not
having someone that he could bring in that he trusted
that wasn't gonna kneecap him or you know, talk behind
his back to force what happened earlier this season. So
I mean, that's that's part of the frustration too, I
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think for the fans is is leaving someone in place
that you know how all these leaks got out. You
know how all this stuff came out. It's not that
hard to figure out where the source was, where it
was coming from. And that's the hard thing about any
organization when you have that sort of dysfunction going on,
you have to just start over and wipe clean. And
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it's unfortunate for a lot of the people who are
a part of that organization they get caught up in it.
But that's the reality is you've got to wipe the
whole thing clean, build back up and give some of
these young talented players, Trevor Lawrence in particular, a guy
like Josh Allen, Labisca, Channault, whoever. You want to talk about,
James Robinson, you know, you can throw on a bunch
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of these young players. They've got talent there, but you've
got to give them a shot and a chance. And
you're not with the way this organization is operating operating
right now, so good for the fan base there in Jackson.
I just wish there was more than you know, forty
people doing this. I don't think it's gonna be a
huge showing. It's kind of like, remember they're trying to
get Tebow. They're trying to the Jaguars to sign Tebow
and way back when and they had like ten people
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standing outside the stadium has a huge rally, but you
know that was that was the kind of drumming up
support they really got for it. Well, it's the old
the old trick in professional wrestling, they call it papering
the arena, where when you know you can't draw a
lot of people, you just got give out a bunch
of free tickets to make sure it looks like it's
more full than it actually is. I mean they try that,
just start giving out some free tickets paper that stadium.
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It's all about the camera angles. I mean, you can
make too like a lot of people when you get
close ups, the kind of like bunched in together and
they're all yelling really in the camera, and then you
actually pan out and you're like, oh, let me ask
you this, because you live in Florida Jacksonville. What's the
humidity like this time of year? Uh? And how's that
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clown makeup gonna feel if they're dressed up like they're
at the circus with the perfect outside this time of year.
It is why you live in Florida. In any port
it actually i'd be if I had to guess, I'd
say it's like seventy two up there for game day.
It will be perfect weather for it. But Jacksonville is
much different than where you're at, Brady. I mean, no, no no, no, no,
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but it ain't that different this time of year. I
mean I'll will get the extended forecast and I'll tell
you right now it'll be beautiful weather up there for
what Sunday perfect for a clown out. Man, I'm into
The high on Sunday in Jacksonville is seventy eight degree
is the lowest sixty two that actually is perfect football.
I'm not lying to you, like this is why you
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live in Florida this time of year is for the
weather across the entire state. It is beautiful. It's nice,
perfect for football weather. Or if you want to don
a clown costume and put a bunch of makeup on
a fake mustache, this will be the time of year
to really come out and do a Week eighteen of
the NFL season. Now do you wear? Do you what
do you have on? What can? It was considered a
clown costume because you can't have just the pain and
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the wig, Like you've got to have a rubber nose.
You got to have yeah, what a unitar what do
they call it? It's like a onesie and sometimes you
like gloves you had like the collar that that bluffs out,
or you have the jacket, you know, but it's all
got to be signy. You know that's a good Do
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you have to have any like props? Yeah? The little horn?
What do I hold me? The clown hold me? The
clown had that at that shock? I mean you can
bring one of those though, don't mess around, Yeah, I mean, yeah,
beat beat ritchie um. Now here's that this is going
to watch the scary movie. Let's see if Brady has
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heard any of the conversations that I've had with the
in laws. While on the phone, Brady, what how do
you say clown? In Spanish? You would say, there it is,
there's my guy right there. You don't know how I
know that. Basically, Jonas calls me a pioso four times
a week. It's just a fun word. I'll pay attention.
You say it to me, I'll punch you on your face.
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But yeah, I would pay attention until you guys, aren't
you more excited to watch that Jags game now? Because
I know there's like this uh, this you know thing
out there where it's like, well, you know, if the
Jags win that game and the Raiders and Chargers end
in a tie, they could just set it a tie
and both go to That's not happening, all right, So
let's not even have a fake conversation. What if the
Jacks beat the Colts? Yeah, because the Colts have to
(27:19):
win to get in. I mean, it's it's dumb. It
is dumb. But it would be amazing though if it
did somehow happen and then you you looked at the
Chargers and Raiders they just looked at each other and
they're like, yeah, we're just gonna kneel the whole time.
That wonderful. Would it would be amazing to see just
to ensure they both get into I would be curious though,
like what the seating would look like in that case.
(27:41):
I don't even know. I haven't even well. I mean,
it would make sense, It would make the most sense
to have it play out that way if they would
have to play each other again in the first round
of the wild card round. But they couldn't in that
case because they both be wild cards, so obviously they
be they'd be positioned to play someone else, you see.
I I just I'm more say to watch the Jacks
game now that I know people are gonna dress up
(28:02):
like that, so whatever. It is the hell of a
hype job for the Jaguars. Who knew it was gonna
take this? What's that? I mean that should be part
of our over unders. I mean, I'm into it. Who knows?
It could be on Knox Walks as well too, which
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feel it, but drugs may make you feel cool. Yeah,
Is it is Jim Mercy's musical career. Is it better
or worse than James Dolan of the Knicks, because there's
(30:17):
j D in the straight shot James Dolan's band, which
is just I mean, it's like listening to homeless people
barfund each other. I'm just saying, that's what That's what
it sounds like. I keep paying a picture here. I
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off while I was in the parking lot this morning. Yeah, bro,
you know the last time I gave food to a
(30:38):
homeless person, They're like, I don't want that garbage, And
I was like, okay, yeah, you've hit the old time
odd time to like try to help someone. Yeah. I
mean literally I didn't even touch it too. It was
like it was like a side order I think of.
I forget what it was. It was tacos or something,
and they're like, yeah, no, I don't want that. I
was like, okay, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah quick. Yes.
(31:06):
He has like a legit band around and then he's
like the drunken guy at a karaoke bar who thinks
he's a lot better than he actually is. And you're like,
oh man, this is uh, it's not good. But I
think the clip I said you he's got like a
three man band. One of my buddies said, what's three
and a half if you count the tree? That? Yeah,
(31:26):
he's hitting. He holding that tree. That was his safety.
Blank you for sure. He did not leave that tree alone.
He doesn't want to fall over. Started with his back
to the camera. Let me have him. Why he why
is he hammered singing outside the Washington mind? I mean,
(31:46):
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(33:14):
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(33:37):
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So big stuff here, definitely not Yeah. Did you hear
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(33:58):
if he gets cleared, well well hesitated, well, I mean
if he's in you know, if he's in jail, he
can't play quarterback for the team. So that I got
locked up, Let me out anyway. Speaking of trouble with
(34:22):
the law, did you guys see that not only did
uh Titans linebacker defensive and he gets described as both
bud dupree, not only did he get charged with misdemeanor assault,
but there was leaked video from his altercation at Walgreens
where he got in a brawl with I guess because
there were two employees, uh they were videotaping him I
(34:46):
guess are recording him with his with their cell phones,
and he did not appreciate that, and so they got
into a little bit of a scuffle. I watched the video.
It looks like they have not updated their security system
since the nineties, but there's a there's other video as
well from cell phones, and it's just it's interesting to me.
Bring you, did you ever get upset at people, uh
(35:06):
sticking their phones in your face? Yeah, I mean usually
I'll just be like, what are you doing? I mean hi,
Like never never an altercation though, No, because that's where
they're like, they win if someone's taping you, like they
all like, that's where they win because they're gonna there.
(35:27):
There's no upside for you to act out or whatever
if they're doing that now. The hard thing is if
you've asked them not to repeatedly and they keep doing it,
now they're being an a hole. But in this society
we're now everyone's just guilty and they have to prove
their innocence, which is a slippery slope. And that's the
(35:48):
problem is like we don't give bud Dupree in this instance,
the benefit of the doubt. We don't know if there
is more to this story and if someone was treating
them like an a hole or doing something he asked
them not to do. Well, Like in the video, the
person who was filming bud Dupree looks like a horse jockey,
Like they look tiny and and I'm surprised bud Dupree
wasn't able to get the phone away right away because
(36:09):
there was a legitimate scuffle. Um, but it's not like
he was beating the hell out of this person. And
to Coop's point, this video, I mean there's a brooder
film had better quality. Like what are we looking at here?
What is this? It's just weird how this whole thing
to get some money out of big time. Big Time
don't don't valuate people's personal space though. Man, that's as
(36:31):
long as they don't valuate your personal space. I mean,
you just gotta be able to handle Jonas does that.
Jonas is a big hugger, Like he hugs a lot.
I ain't gonna lie, but I only hug people that
that you know, Uh, yeah, you see the problem is
it's like Coop, you know, as an actor, he's famous, LaVar,
(36:51):
great football player, famous Brady legendary football player. Uh you
see him on TV. He's famous. I'm not don't have
to worry about any of this. So you guys got
problems and I don't what are you? What are you
talking about? Frontman for Dishevel. That's a good point, that is.
That is a great point, Coop, no doubt about it.
(37:12):
You were called Jonas knocks n Yeah, Lenny Lenny last,
Lenny light switch. One man's videos, another man's thermis. That
is out of I don't even know. All right, moving
(37:36):
on here, do you do you guys remember do you
guys remember Isaiah Wilson? Did he jump out of a
window at like a college party? Oh? Yeah? From the Times? Yes,
this guy's got the weirdest story. He's he's up to
all kinds of stuff all the time. He So he
just got let go by his third team in less
than two years. The Giants let him go. Uh this time. Uh,
(37:59):
they're saying was because he continually fell asleep in meetings.
A lot of people sleep in meetings. Man, there's the
old dage stand up. You know if your job matters
to you. Stand up. This guy is a character. Earlier
(38:19):
he really like in his career. He released a rap
song when he wasn't on a team. He was arrested
at gunpoint after a high speed car chase, and then
the passenger he was with had acid on them, which
is interesting. That's not usually the drug that you find
in the in the car with the players. But what drug?
(38:39):
What did you find? Cope? So we Yeah, I mean
of the times, marijuana, green wolf, little hippie lettuce, say off,
I mean what else, Coop? If he had to pick
another narcotic that would be found in the powder powder cocaine, Yeah,
little booger, sugar bog that's good. Alright, So okay stick around.
(39:02):
More on what drugs would be found in a player's
car is the seventies. U
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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involving an NFL player at a Walgreens. We've got an
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(00:41):
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the way up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock
Pacific here on fs ARE. We're approaching the final week
of the regular season in the NFL. Uh teams already
acknowledging that they are out, that they are finished, that
they are done. Uh. Yeah, it's just and some players,
(01:48):
in particular, some quarterbacks who have acknowledged that they are done.
And one of those quarterbacks would be Baker Mayfield, who
is now electing to have surgery, obviously dealing with the
shoulder injury that he's been nursing throughout the course the
majority of the season. But he is going to have
the surgery asap. He's going to be out this Sunday
against Cincinnati, And Uh, I gotta be honest with you,
(02:10):
I just don't get it. Uh, there's one game left.
They were eliminated on Monday night, and he still played Brady.
I can't make sense of why this would be the
move that he would need to opt out or or
be done with the regular season a game early as
opposed to going out there with his guys. Uh So,
when this initially came out, my first thought was, well,
(02:30):
then why did he play Monday night if they were
already eliminated going into that game. Now the reason being
would be he prepared the entire time to be the starter.
He'd really be putting case Keenom in a tough spot.
He would have been putting his entire team in a
tough spot because they were eliminated after the results of
the games on Sunday. So kind of made some sense
at that point that he would just go out play
(02:51):
the Monday football game and then elect to get this surgery.
And I do wonder if they even had conversations before
that game. But I'm with you, like, what's a week?
I mean, seriously, like what's a week in the difference
of him coming back from a non throwing shoulder posterial
labor tear fixed to to what's going on there. So
(03:12):
I it doesn't make as much sense to me unless
this is what's at play, Unless he feels or is
getting signals from the team that maybe he's not gonna
be there next year. I mean, they picked up his
fifth year option. It's fully guaranteed, so they're on the
books for the eight team million or so whatever the
(03:32):
number is, eighteen point nine something like that, which is,
by the way, a very economical amount for a starting
quarterback in the NFL. If you believe, you know that's
you know, that's what he's gonna be next year from
the Cleveland Browns. But I do wonder if he decided
to say, we've got one game left, but we're not
going to the postseason, and I don't know what's gonna
(03:52):
happen right now with the team. So I'd rather sit
here and take care of myself as opposed to put
in my self back out there to get a win
for this team where I don't know that they're not
gonna deal me and they're not gonna send me elsewhere
and try to make a trader trying to figure out
how to upgrade it this position or replace me. So
why shouldn't I look out for my best interest? Maybe
(04:14):
that's what's playing out right now. Uh, you definitely have
to protect yourself at this this point in time. I mean,
I think that that logic makes perfectly good sense. You
you practice all week, you you finish out. Um. In
terms of what this looks like for his future, I
think a lot is up in the air. They grossly
(04:36):
underachieved this season. No one would dispute that. Uh how
much of that falls on him internally? Uh, it may
be very different than external forces and how those things
are being discussed. But why why risk it right? Why
why play another week when you could be getting yourself
(04:59):
he'll up and getting yourself repaired for for your future.
I mean, I think that for what it's worth, it's
logical to say, if I haven't gotten or received or
redone my contract for a long term contract, and I
do have one more year left on my contract, then
I should start preparing myself for next season. And if
(05:22):
that means I'm going to be a part of this
team next year, then you know what, I want to
be as healthy as I can be going into the summer.
You know, the O T A s or the mini
camps depending on how all that stuff goes with with
COVID or whatever. But I think that he's going to
want to be think about it, this way, right, Guys,
if he plays well, if he were to play this
(05:44):
upcoming week and he plays well, does that boat better
in the long run than him coming and getting as
healthy as he can for the upcoming preparation for next season,
like the mini camps and different things like that. You know,
to me, if he's if he's still behind health wise
(06:07):
during during the mini camps, then that says that that
sets off a red flag to the guys that are
making the decisions that you know, maybe he's not going
to be ready. Maybe he's not. Maybe we're going to
have to go through an entire season again of Baker
being hurt and being injured. So I think that he's
making a logical decision here to try to get himself
(06:30):
repaired and gets as healthy as he can. I just
think it makes sense. Just but it's just a week.
Like I don't I don't know. My thing is can
he hurt it anymore? Like if this was one thing
to where it was his throwing shoulder and it was
similar to a Drew Breese who got hurt regular season
finale in San Diego, and it was there was questions
about whether or not he could play again. You know,
I could understand that. But if it's a non throwing
(06:52):
shoulder he's been dealing with the majority of the year,
to me, he would earn a lot of whether you
want to say, credibility, respect, whatever word you want to use,
if you want out there acknowledging, Hey, we're out, but
I'm not leaving you guys behind. We're gonna go out there.
We're gonna do this together. And maybe I'm looking at
it from and you know, just sort of being a
little bit but already, but they already did that. He
(07:14):
he has already done that. He had he could have
probably went and got that surgery long before now, right,
But I get what Jonas is saying is he's saying
he's kind of because he's competitive and he's doing it
for his team and all that that he's trying to
stick it out and and now I guess their postseason,
since those aspirations are done, it's like, well, now he's
just gonna throw in the talent it. He's basically saying,
(07:36):
like pulling Matt Correll, if you're gonna play in what
is a meaningless game in the NFL, it's really only
gonna hurt their draft order. Wherever However, this you know,
season ends and where they end up. I mean, there's
probably some Browns fans are like, hey, we wouldn't mind
losing this just so he end up in a spot
where a little bit closer it's not going to be
a successful season anyway. And we talked about a little
(07:56):
bit yesterday. The reality is like, like a lot of
places do these like what postseason grades on or you know,
season reviews when you look back, I think it's the
stupidest thing in the world because in the NFL, everything's
past fail. Like you either did what you were hoping
you were gonna do. You made it to the playoffs
you wanted to run, You won the Super Bowl, you
won the a f C, NFC, whatever the case, maybe
(08:18):
you won your division or you didn't. And for Cleveland,
it was a really big step back from what they
were a year ago. You know, they were a playoff team.
They beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, like they took a huge
stride for this organization since they came back in and
this year they took almost a step back. I mean
maybe two steps back depend on how you look at it.
(08:39):
But there was a lot of you know, extenuating circumstances
with COVID, with injuries, you know, even with the coaching
staff not being able to be a part of it.
So there's there's reasons for that, and I understand, you know,
every team deals with that, but they probably dealt with
a little bit worse this season. So like, I kind
of see the whole thing and what's going on. I
just think the aiming of this, and Jonas had kind
(09:01):
of pointed this out is really interesting as to when
he's decided now to say, all right, enough enough, like
what is one more game and trying to ride this
thing out with your teammates and with your guys. But
if you feel like, hey, there's no point in it
because we don't have any postseason aspirations now, let case
Keenum have a week to prepare and give him a shot,
so be it. I just I would hope that you'd
(09:23):
want to try to go out on a better note
than what we saw the last two games. And I think, look,
I I like Baker Mayfield probably more than a lot
of people. And I do think he gets hammered by
a lot of people in the media, maybe too much so,
because he's shown that he can be bothered by it
and he'll buy it back like I like him too.
I think he should be the longest term guy. But
he does bring a lot of this on it. I
(09:44):
totally agree. But that being said, I mean, this was
Baker Mayfield post game. And if you were to tell
me after these comments, what do you think he's going
to do for the regular season finale? I would just
assume he was going to play based on these comments
following Monday's game at Pittsburgh. Gonna always be pretty or smooth,
But I'm a fighter. Uh. If anybody ever questions so much,
(10:05):
I wanted to just turn on this tape. It was pretty,
but I kept going, kept swinging. Um. That's who I am,
and that's what I continue to be. UM and so
I've always been. So I'm just a little surprised why
he decided he didn't want to play again. Uh. I
think that you could use the logic the totally opposite direction, right.
It doesn't It doesn't always have to be cynical or
(10:27):
and and and and the approach of it. You you
can look at it from the standpoint of he again,
he has wrote written it out with his guys. They
have written it out together and wrote it out together
and and and for what it's worth. Where they're at
right now, who knows what the internal conversations are. Right
Let's get you ready for for next season. You know,
(10:48):
if they were, if they were in a position where
I mean, I guess now that doesn't really matter. But
I mean in years past, you you have guys that
they rest up on on the last week before the
playoffs and they don't play until they get into the
first round. If you're saying that this is and and
for what it's worth, I mean, let's let's look at
it that face value on this. If you're thinking that
(11:10):
he's your which we don't know of Cleveland's thinking this
yet or not, but if you're thinking this is your
franchise quarterback, a week does matter. It does matter to
to to get everything going, to get the process the
road of recovery, uh and and being repaired. It does matter.
And so if you're looking at him and you're valuing
(11:32):
him as your franchise guy, then that's something that I
would assume internally everybody is aware of that. I would assume,
you know, Miles Garrett and and the rest of these guys,
Juice and all those guys realize how much pain the
dude is in and how much he's pushing to get through.
I mean when when I did the game against Detroit,
(11:53):
Cleveland versus Detroit, and I did the interviews with him,
you know the way that those those players talked about
Aker Mayfield. I mean, Juice Landry said that he wouldn't
he wouldn't, he would wouldn't rather play for another quarterback
other than Baker Mayfield, which is to me is high praise.
You know, look, I love that. It's a great sentiment
(12:15):
and statement. He's his quarterback. Now you put his ass
with Tom Brady or Aeron Rode. Yeah, you know, I
get I get that too, But I mean the beautiful
but in the world Ali Berry online too. Sorry, bab,
I gotta go giferent name, but I would you signed here?
(12:35):
But but again, for the thought of it. In the moment,
it seemed genuine and and if they caught up, hold on,
did you get caught up in that production meeting? Uh?
I felt a little bad for him listening to the
way they sounded and in the way that they were
trying to make sense of things. I might have got
a little caught up into if they could have played
(12:56):
some soundtrack music underneath it, like it would have been
like more of that soft or it would have been
e E N Y, it would have been something like
Book of Days. You know. Yeah, was there anybody you
were talking to your like, yeah, they're full of crap.
I'm a former player. I know this goes. They're just
not telling the truth. Coach Wood, Yeah, yeah, I said,
Coach Wood. He really wanted Hey, Glenn, Hey, Glenn wanted
(13:19):
to really say some other things I could tell you
he wanted to, you know, but but he just you know,
you you mask that way. We just got to get better.
You know, that's when when you coach, when you hair
coach can't say anything really good, and then at a
certain point they say, you know, we just got to
get better. That's code work before we stink. These dudes stink.
I got a bunch of stink and they've given me
(13:42):
this to maintain my job. You just have to find
five minutes with the coach before the production meeting, after
the production meeting, or on the field, if you have
a chance to get a practice or walk through, that's
when you get the real info. And then, you know,
as an analyst, especially talking on TV, you have to
decide like does it fit, does it make sense? Should
(14:04):
I even say this? Or how do I say this?
Like that's where you start to develop relationships with them
where they can be a little bit more candid into
production meetings because they'll hear if you like, out them
about something that you said. But they're not gonna trust
everyone in that production meeting room. So it's not even
about like the coach not trusting the analyst. It's more
about other people sitting in the room because they know
(14:25):
how TV works and they know a lot of the
you know, producers, directors, other people involved. They'll talk and
if you say enough in those production production meeting rooms
and it gets out, you start to hear those rumor mills.
You know, it's not coming from the analyst. It's usually
coming from the other people who are involved, you know,
around the production of that game up next. If you've
been listening to this show over the past couple of months,
(14:46):
we tried to warn you, tried to tell you, tried
to get everybody a clue, tried to let them all
know what was really going on with one team in
the NFL that was on the verge of a Super Bowl,
not that long ago, and it turned turns out we
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I was expecting something else, all right, and I think
I'm getting fast. We've already taken one dump. I'm not
gonna dump on you again. So I got dumped yesterday,
(15:51):
and you know what, I don't feel like I was
supposed to get dump perfect. I gotta be honest. I mean,
you come from a preacher's household, Like, I don't think
you really used the term they thought you did. Yeah,
I didn't. It was a t on there, yeah, And
I said darn on top of that. You know, it's
like I can't even give you the example because I
(16:14):
might get dumped, but it certainly is not a term
that that was, you know, yeah, I am a preacher's kid. Yeah,
there's I understand the terminology and where you can go
and where you can't go. I mean, but if it's
you know, it's like in the NFL, there's a penalty
or not. If it was a bad call still counts
as a penalty. I mean, I mean when it comes
to the dump, you know scale and dump ratings here
(16:36):
so far in two LaVar's high atop the lists. Kids
have potty mouths though, and and they're they're freaks. You know,
what do you mean by that? You know, you get
a church camp or something, you live a little you
live a little bit more on the edge because you
know all the rules and regulations. Oh, I'm sorry, I
(16:57):
was about to say too much. So that's I'm just saying.
You know, I'm just saying, you know, you can get forgiveness,
that's all. Yeah. Oh, I thought it was gonna be
more of like you kind of know, like right and wrong,
so you kind of live, you know, on the edge
of that wrong, where like some people might just be
ignorant to all of it, so they're just like, I
don't know what I should be doing here. You know,
you know exactly what you should be doing. You know
(17:18):
the difference between right and wrong, but you also know
that you always have a chance to be forgiven. Yeah,
like do real bad things, and then if you know
the Bible well enough, you're like, well, this character and
the Bible did this, and this was way worse than
what I did, and they got forgiveness for it. So
(17:39):
I'm just gonna go ahead and shoot my shot. You know.
That's how you know young you know, preachers, kids like
myself used to handle all right, So we're gonna have
another edition of in case you missed it, coming up
later on in the hour. But in case you might
have missed this show. Over the past a couple of months,
we've been trying to tell you that the armpit fart
of the NFL is the Jacksonville Jaguars. They can try
(18:02):
and pin it on Urban Meyer, and we gotta get
rid of herb. He's the problem, and they can have
a nerdy of course, yeah, he was. He was the
fall guy, was like Chris Carter at the Rookie Symposium.
And then all of us, all of a sudden, we
approach Week eighteen in the NFL, and uh, as it turns,
(18:23):
according to the Associated Press, There was a report that
came out Mark Long of the Associated Press who says
that some Jaguars fans are planning to dress up as
clowns for this Sunday's finale against the Indianapolis Colts. So
we're gonna have an old fashioned clown out. Back in
the day, it was the brown paper bags over the
faces at New Orleans Saints game. They call him the
(18:45):
ants Brady Quinn. The Jacksonville Jaguars are taking it up
a notch. We're gonna get clowns at whatever the hell
that stadium is with swimming pools in the top deck.
How about that. The clowns are also going to have
the signature mustache that is on buy shot Kan just
to represent that's actually who they are referring to as
(19:06):
a clown. So kind of interesting. I mean, look, this team,
outside of one miracle run thanks to playoff Leonard four
Nett and an unbelievable defense to the a f C
Championship game. Outside of that one miracle season aberration, whatever
you wanna call it, they haven't been anything close to that.
(19:26):
And a lot of it has to do again with
shot Con, you know, overseeing all of this, and I
think really falling victim to what a lot of owners
fall victim to. They make their money in some other
industry and then they buy an NFL franchise or a
sports franchise and a team, and they think that they
can just you know, have success because they've got a
(19:47):
ton of money and it and it always strikes me
as odd because for the most part, a lot of
the lessons are ways that these owners made their money,
if they even made it, if they're not in hurning
it right, it was the fundamentals and things that like,
they're not applying to the NFL franchise and and that's
(20:08):
where they kind of fall apart and go wrong. So
the reality is for Shot Khan, you know, he's lucky
he's not in a bigger market. If can you imagine
if this team moved to London the amount of flak
he would take if they were as bad as they
have been since he's taken over his owner, I mean,
it would be it would be a blood bath in
(20:28):
that sports media market, considering like the buttons you know
they push over there across the pond. But it's it's
tough to watch this and it's tough even more just
to listen to all the media that again you wanted
to make urban Meyer the scapego you will once he leaves,
you see just even how bad this team is evil
without him. And I feel terrible for Trevor Lawrence because
(20:53):
at the end of the day, he is one of
the most draftable prospects we had ever seen in that
number one overall position and he has thrusted into a
bad organization that's ultithing gonna eat away of what he
can truly be as a player and as a town
in the NFL. And it's a sad, sad deal, and
it happens all too often, and you know what, it'll
(21:15):
just be moving on. Here's another sad story of can't
miss prospect that missed. It's it just happens way too often.
And that's that's just the reality of what pro football,
you know, pro sports in general, you know it presents.
I mean, think about this. They were less than three
minutes away. There was under three minutes to go at
(21:37):
Foxboro in the a f C title game. They had
a lead to go to the super Bowl. That was
less than four years ago. What the hell happened? And
that that roster and take you a Jalen Ramsey and
studs his Brady point at Leonard four Nette and there
was a player that was missed by Leonard Fournette in
that game. But if he would have said, hey, less
than four years from now, Urban Meyer will have come
(22:00):
and gone. Jalen Ramsey and all those superstars are gone.
Oh and by the way, and the regular season finale, uh,
fans are gonna dress up like clowns with a shot
Khan mustache and show up to the game. People have
thought you were crazy. That's what a disaster this team
has been. And and just to see it play. That's
why I'm fascinated to see who they end up with
(22:20):
as a coach, Like like what like what what is
the direction they're gonna take here? And and Trent Balky
The report is he saved. But I don't know how
you're not looking at this entire thing going. This is
a problem, that's all. That's the other part of the frustration, right,
is that they're keeping Bulky as a part of it.
I think the fans are wise to his track record
and just how this whole thing is run and the
fact that he survived the last regime. He was the
(22:44):
hold over from the last regime, and maybe you know
that's if you asked urban Meyer, one of the mistakes
he made was keeping Trent Bulky in place and not
having someone that he could bring in that he trusted
that wasn't gonna kneecap him or you know, talk behind
his back to force what happened earlier this season. So
I mean, that's that's part of the frustration too, I
(23:06):
think for the fans is is leaving someone in place
that you know how all these leaks got out. You
know how all this stuff came out. It's not that
hard to figure out where the source was, where it
was coming from. And that's the hard thing about any
organization when you have that sort of dysfunction going on,
you have to just start over and wipe clean. And
(23:27):
it's unfortunate for a lot of the people who are
a part of that organization they get caught up in it.
But that's the reality is you've got to wipe the
whole thing clean, build back up and give some of
these young talented players, Trevor Lawrence in particular, a guy
like Josh Allen, Labisca, Channault, whoever. You want to talk about,
James Robinson, you know, you can throw on a bunch
(23:47):
of these young players. They've got talent there, but you've
got to give them a shot and a chance. And
you're not with the way this organization is operating operating
right now, so good for the fan base there in Jackson.
I just wish there was more than you know, forty
people doing this. I don't think it's gonna be a
huge showing. It's kind of like, remember they're trying to
get Tebow. They're trying to the Jaguars to sign Tebow
and way back when and they had like ten people
(24:08):
standing outside the stadium has a huge rally, but you
know that was that was the kind of drumming up
support they really got for it. Well, it's the old
the old trick in professional wrestling, they call it papering
the arena, where when you know you can't draw a
lot of people, you just got give out a bunch
of free tickets to make sure it looks like it's
more full than it actually is. I mean they try that,
just start giving out some free tickets paper that stadium.
(24:29):
It's all about the camera angles. I mean, you can
make too like a lot of people when you get
close ups, the kind of like bunched in together and
they're all yelling really in the camera, and then you
actually pan out and you're like, oh, let me ask
you this, because you live in Florida Jacksonville. What's the
humidity like this time of year? Uh? And how's that
(24:50):
clown makeup gonna feel if they're dressed up like they're
at the circus with the perfect outside this time of year.
It is why you live in Florida. In any port
it actually i'd be if I had to guess, I'd
say it's like seventy two up there for game day.
It will be perfect weather for it. But Jacksonville is
much different than where you're at, Brady. I mean, no, no no, no, no,
(25:10):
but it ain't that different this time of year. I
mean I'll will get the extended forecast and I'll tell
you right now it'll be beautiful weather up there for
what Sunday perfect for a clown out. Man, I'm into
The high on Sunday in Jacksonville is seventy eight degree
is the lowest sixty two that actually is perfect football.
I'm not lying to you, like this is why you
(25:30):
live in Florida this time of year is for the
weather across the entire state. It is beautiful. It's nice,
perfect for football weather. Or if you want to don
a clown costume and put a bunch of makeup on
a fake mustache, this will be the time of year
to really come out and do a Week eighteen of
the NFL season. Now do you wear? Do you what
do you have on? What can? It was considered a
clown costume because you can't have just the pain and
(25:52):
the wig, Like you've got to have a rubber nose.
You got to have yeah, what a unitar what do
they call it? It's like a onesie and sometimes you
like gloves you had like the collar that that bluffs out,
or you have the jacket, you know, but it's all
got to be signy. You know that's a good Do
(26:14):
you have to have any like props? Yeah? The little horn?
What do I hold me? The clown hold me? The
clown had that at that shock? I mean you can
bring one of those though, don't mess around, Yeah, I mean, yeah,
beat beat ritchie um. Now here's that this is going
to watch the scary movie. Let's see if Brady has
(26:36):
heard any of the conversations that I've had with the
in laws. While on the phone, Brady, what how do
you say clown? In Spanish? You would say, there it is,
there's my guy right there. You don't know how I
know that. Basically, Jonas calls me a pioso four times
a week. It's just a fun word. I'll pay attention.
You say it to me, I'll punch you on your face.
(26:57):
But yeah, I would pay attention until you guys, aren't
you more excited to watch that Jags game now? Because
I know there's like this uh, this you know thing
out there where it's like, well, you know, if the
Jags win that game and the Raiders and Chargers end
in a tie, they could just set it a tie
and both go to That's not happening, all right, So
let's not even have a fake conversation. What if the
Jacks beat the Colts? Yeah, because the Colts have to
(27:19):
win to get in. I mean, it's it's dumb. It
is dumb. But it would be amazing though if it
did somehow happen and then you you looked at the
Chargers and Raiders they just looked at each other and
they're like, yeah, we're just gonna kneel the whole time.
That wonderful. Would it would be amazing to see just
to ensure they both get into I would be curious though,
like what the seating would look like in that case.
(27:41):
I don't even know. I haven't even well. I mean,
it would make sense, It would make the most sense
to have it play out that way if they would
have to play each other again in the first round
of the wild card round. But they couldn't in that
case because they both be wild cards, so obviously they
be they'd be positioned to play someone else, you see.
I I just I'm more say to watch the Jacks
game now that I know people are gonna dress up
(28:02):
like that, so whatever. It is the hell of a
hype job for the Jaguars. Who knew it was gonna
take this? What's that? I mean that should be part
of our over unders. I mean, I'm into it. Who knows?
It could be on Knox Walks as well too, which
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(29:54):
don't make you cooler? You're looking at it. That's money,
don't make you better. Jimmy Er say, don't make you
feel it, but drugs may make you feel cool. Yeah,
Is it is Jim Mercy's musical career. Is it better
or worse than James Dolan of the Knicks, because there's
(30:17):
j D in the straight shot James Dolan's band, which
is just I mean, it's like listening to homeless people
barfund each other. I'm just saying, that's what That's what
it sounds like. I keep paying a picture here. I
had a homeless person out back tell me to f
off while I was in the parking lot this morning. Yeah, bro,
you know the last time I gave food to a
(30:38):
homeless person, They're like, I don't want that garbage, And
I was like, okay, yeah, you've hit the old time
odd time to like try to help someone. Yeah. I
mean literally I didn't even touch it too. It was
like it was like a side order I think of.
I forget what it was. It was tacos or something,
and they're like, yeah, no, I don't want that. I
was like, okay, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah quick. Yes.
(31:06):
He has like a legit band around and then he's
like the drunken guy at a karaoke bar who thinks
he's a lot better than he actually is. And you're like,
oh man, this is uh, it's not good. But I
think the clip I said you he's got like a
three man band. One of my buddies said, what's three
and a half if you count the tree? That? Yeah,
(31:26):
he's hitting. He holding that tree. That was his safety.
Blank you for sure. He did not leave that tree alone.
He doesn't want to fall over. Started with his back
to the camera. Let me have him. Why he why
is he hammered singing outside the Washington mind? I mean,
(31:46):
why not be an Indian? Like why are you in
today's capital? All right? So coming up next year on
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(32:30):
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(32:51):
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Justin Cooper. Everybody, Yeah, thank you, thank you, appreciate it.
(33:14):
What's that? What's your Twitter handle? It's at you? H
Bronco fans. So Bronco fan, Yeah out there that involves
Coope that that heavily tweets into our show. Yeah that's
not me. Oh oh yeah, suck at Coope that one. Yeah, yeah,
that's that's justin and Cincinnati. Yeah wow Cooper, I mean big,
(33:37):
big Fangio fan looking forward to having him back next year.
So big stuff here, definitely not Yeah. Did you hear
my theory on what they should do? What's that? Go
after Nathaniel Hackett? You see a green band and see
if you can get eight Bronchers with him. Yeah, that
would be great. I would. I'll take Aaron Rodgers, I'll
take Russell Wilson, I'll take anybody about Shaun Watson absolutely well,
(33:58):
if he gets cleared, well well hesitated, well, I mean
if he's in you know, if he's in jail, he
can't play quarterback for the team. So that I got
locked up, Let me out anyway. Speaking of trouble with
(34:22):
the law, did you guys see that not only did
uh Titans linebacker defensive and he gets described as both
bud dupree, not only did he get charged with misdemeanor assault,
but there was leaked video from his altercation at Walgreens
where he got in a brawl with I guess because
there were two employees, uh they were videotaping him I
(34:46):
guess are recording him with his with their cell phones,
and he did not appreciate that, and so they got
into a little bit of a scuffle. I watched the video.
It looks like they have not updated their security system
since the nineties, but there's a there's other video as
well from cell phones, and it's just it's interesting to me.
Bring you, did you ever get upset at people, uh
(35:06):
sticking their phones in your face? Yeah, I mean usually
I'll just be like, what are you doing? I mean hi,
Like never never an altercation though, No, because that's where
they're like, they win if someone's taping you, like they
all like, that's where they win because they're gonna there.
(35:27):
There's no upside for you to act out or whatever
if they're doing that now. The hard thing is if
you've asked them not to repeatedly and they keep doing it,
now they're being an a hole. But in this society
we're now everyone's just guilty and they have to prove
their innocence, which is a slippery slope. And that's the
(35:48):
problem is like we don't give bud Dupree in this instance,
the benefit of the doubt. We don't know if there
is more to this story and if someone was treating
them like an a hole or doing something he asked
them not to do. Well, Like in the video, the
person who was filming bud Dupree looks like a horse jockey,
Like they look tiny and and I'm surprised bud Dupree
wasn't able to get the phone away right away because
(36:09):
there was a legitimate scuffle. Um, but it's not like
he was beating the hell out of this person. And
to Coop's point, this video, I mean there's a brooder
film had better quality. Like what are we looking at here?
What is this? It's just weird how this whole thing
to get some money out of big time. Big Time
don't don't valuate people's personal space though. Man, that's as
(36:31):
long as they don't valuate your personal space. I mean,
you just gotta be able to handle Jonas does that.
Jonas is a big hugger, Like he hugs a lot.
I ain't gonna lie, but I only hug people that
that you know, Uh, yeah, you see the problem is
it's like Coop, you know, as an actor, he's famous, LaVar,
(36:51):
great football player, famous Brady legendary football player. Uh you
see him on TV. He's famous. I'm not don't have
to worry about any of this. So you guys got
problems and I don't what are you? What are you
talking about? Frontman for Dishevel. That's a good point, that is.
That is a great point, Coop, no doubt about it.
(37:12):
You were called Jonas knocks n Yeah, Lenny Lenny last,
Lenny light switch. One man's videos, another man's thermis. That
is out of I don't even know. All right, moving
(37:36):
on here, do you do you guys remember do you
guys remember Isaiah Wilson? Did he jump out of a
window at like a college party? Oh? Yeah? From the Times? Yes,
this guy's got the weirdest story. He's he's up to
all kinds of stuff all the time. He So he
just got let go by his third team in less
than two years. The Giants let him go. Uh this time. Uh,
(37:59):
they're saying was because he continually fell asleep in meetings.
A lot of people sleep in meetings. Man, there's the
old dage stand up. You know if your job matters
to you. Stand up. This guy is a character. Earlier
(38:19):
he really like in his career. He released a rap
song when he wasn't on a team. He was arrested
at gunpoint after a high speed car chase, and then
the passenger he was with had acid on them, which
is interesting. That's not usually the drug that you find
in the in the car with the players. But what drug?
(38:39):
What did you find? Cope? So we Yeah, I mean
of the times, marijuana, green wolf, little hippie lettuce, say off,
I mean what else, Coop? If he had to pick
another narcotic that would be found in the powder powder cocaine, Yeah,
little booger, sugar bog that's good. Alright, So okay stick around.
(39:02):
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