June 29, 2022 • 47 mins
Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington believe the tables have turned for Baker Mayfield who should make the Browns crawl back and pay him more money to return. They applaud Terry McLaurin for being the latest to cash in on the WR market and putting the Commanders in position to win the NFC East. Plus the Old P, Petros Papadakis weighs in on Freddie Freeman crying about his “thick ex,” Baker Mayfield in position to comeback for the Browns and more.
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Is the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with LaVar Areas and Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks
on Fox fourth Radio. So we talked about the the
Baker Mayfield excuse me, the Deshaun Watson situation, uh, and
some of the criticism this show Mayfield, it's it's turned
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into it now. Um. So, Baker Mayfield was at a
he was at a youth football camp in Norman, Oklahoma,
on Tuesday, and he was asked about a possible reconciliation
with the Browns if they need to turn to him
because of the Deshaun Watson stuff. Here's what Baker had
to say yesterday. I think it's been pretty obvious the
mutual decision on both sides is to move on. You know,
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I'm I'm thankful for my four years in Cleveland. There's
a lot of ups and downs and a ton of
learning experiences that you know forever keep with me, teammates
and friends and relationships that will have for a lifetime.
And I think a lot of people think if they
didn't have a quarterback from the next year, but would
there be any chance of reconciliation there? No, I think
for that to happen. They would have to be some
reaching out, but we're ready to move on. I think
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on both sides, Hey, is there some hope there? It
sounded like it we got some hope there. Come on,
it sounded like he wants them to crawl that well,
and what other way? What they? What other way would
it have to happen? You know, why wouldn't it be
crawling back, grappling, begging? You know, why wouldn't it be
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that down on a bended knee. Yeah, boys to men um.
I'll be honest with you. I think the tables have
turned that you guys might you might say, because it's
crazy when I say this, the tables have turned so
much to the point where the Browns need Baker Mayfield.
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I'd go ask for more money. I would. I would
go ask for an extension. I'd say, you're gonna row
another year on my deal, and you're gonna pay me
a big signing bonus that I get right now. Because
here's what I know. I know you you've got deep pockets.
You must think a lot of this team. Maybe not
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a lot of me, but you must think a lot
of this team because you went out and paid a
guy more eighty million dollars in total guarantees, more than
anyone ever has in NFL history to sign a guy
who didn't play a year ago with all these allegations,
and so as much as that's about Deshaun Watson, it's
also about where you feel like this team's at because
you felt like he was a missing component. Well, guess what,
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you don't have him right now, but you can have me,
and if you want me, you're gonna have to pay
up for it, and then then you can trade me
for whatever you want after I ball out this season,
Like I would almost propose it as, Yeah, I know
you've got the pockets to pay it, because I've already
witnessed you pay another quarterback at someone else. But now
he's not gonna be there, so you need to figure
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out a way of compensating me what I want if
I'm gonna come back and play for your organization. And oh,
by the way, after this year, we're gonna figure out
a way of you trading me where I want to
go because I'm gonna ball out and there will be
greater trade demand for whatever contract we agree to, I mean,
and not the bare minimum they are already paying him
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a guaranteed contract, So you're gonna you're gonna put something
on top of that. You're gonna put something on top
of that, like you're gonna compensate me. You've embarrassed me.
You you have. You have made a poor decision and
in terms of what direction you were going to go
in away from me. And while the player on the
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field is better than who I am, and that might
not be up for debate, I think we all will
agree that the character issue far has exceeded anything that
would matter towards the playing aspect of what's going on here.
Baker Mayfield has never been an issue in in that manner,
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you could say what you want to say. He might
be brash in your opinion and assessment assumption of how
he handles the media. You know, different members of the media.
You know you may not like his his commercials where
where the stadium is his home. You know you might
not like him on the high I don't know who cares,
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but Baker Mayfield has been put in a position where,
almost if we're being real here, his career has been
put on hold, and by this decision, it's been put
on old. So you're gonna compensate me for that. If
I'm Baker Mayfield, I'll come back and I'll play for you.
But you're gonna compensate me for for this. You're not
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going to just bring me back. And it's like, Okay,
you're still on the roster, come back and play now.
You were getting rid of me. You didn't want me.
You you clearly valued someone tremendously, tremendously, tremendously more than me.
Taking consideration the mental emotional aspects of going through a
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season hurt. It's not even like he went through. It's
a regular season. I had a bad season. The entire team,
key pieces of the team were hurt, including him, and
guys were pushing through, including him, to get through the
season on on injury on injuries. So to me, I
don't Yes, I don't think I closed the door because
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I think he kept it open. They would have to
reach out one but two, I'm with you, Q. I
think that you definitely you definitely go for more compensation
and being uh the former starter that becomes the relief,
pick up the pieces and clean up the mess and
see what we can do with this season person in
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the scenario, and that does carry value with it and
we out about it yesterday. It's not like they were
a two win team. They won eight games last year
and they had injuries all over the place. Odell Beckham,
that whole situation was a disaster. Jarvis Landry's was breaking down. Yeah,
like they So it's not like this was just an
awful football They weren't the four win team that Deshaun
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Watson last played for in Houston, all right. They weren't
the worst team in the league. And Baker Mayfield was
banged up. So you look look at the depth chart.
I mean, he's better than Jacoby Brissette, He's better than
Josh Dobbs and and and Deshaun Watson's not there and
probably not gonna be there. So I just to me,
isn't this all on Andrew Berry? Because if you asked
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Kevin Stefanski, I'll bet you Kevin Stefanski would say, hey,
I'll run it back with Baker. I mean, like, if
we're in this position here and we've got to compete
with all the talent in our division and in the
a f C, I'd rather deal with it, deal with
maybe the attitude and some of the hurt feelings and
run it back with Baker Mayfield. But doesn't this come
down to either Andrew Berry or Jimmy Hasm or whoever
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signed off on all these moves to swallow their pride,
understand they're gonna have to take a couple of els
this offseason, and they're gonna have to make things right
with Baker Mayfield. Otherwise. I just don't see how what happened.
It's uh, it's it's almost as if though you want
to kind of I don't know, like called the season
a wash, but it's unfortunate for Kevin Stefanski, the entire
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roster that you've built at this point that is talented
and has the opportunity to do something. Um, it's hard
to it's hard to feel like the NFL is not
going to suspend Watson for a year. And if that's
the case, I just you know, what are the solution
do you have? You know, who else are you looking for?
Do you try to trade them to Carolina eat some
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of the money's and just bringing Sam Donald? You know,
I mean there's not many other Jimmy G. I think
the problem is, you know, I got like Jimmy G.
Maybe Sam Donald. They might look at it and say Okay,
like I get an opportunity to go start, Watson's not there.
It's a talented roster, all these things, but you know
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it's a one year deal and then you're moving on
again after a year. Maybe they don't care. I don't know.
I'm just saying it's it's hard to find someone who's
willing to come in for a year's time knowing it's
not going to be your team and there's no long
term solution for you to want to sign up for that.
But it is an opportunity. You know, in Carolina, we
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don't know that Sam Donald is gonna receive an opportunity.
Maybe it'll be mac correl. You know, we don't know
how that's all gonna play out eventually, but we do
know this. I mean San Francisco, it sounds like it's
trade lance. So if that's the case, if you're gonna
help you helping Jimmy Garoppolo, maybe you find a way
of trading for him. But you know, I don't think
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Baker mayfand wants to go there. I mean, that's the
hard thing about this is is you're almost making either
a three team trade or you're doing separate trades where
it's like future draft picks or maybe current players on
the roster not involving Baker because San Francisco doesn't need
a quarterback solution, right, I mean, Carolina technically doesn't need one.
Maybe they just don't like the guy they have that much.
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So it it's gonna be interesting to see how it
would be orchestrated. That's why you you're kind of looking
and go, yeah, I don't know. I don't know where
Baker Mayfield ends up at this point in time, given
how late it is in the year, and he talked
about that in this interview, but he's frustrated with it
because he would have rather been in there for o
T as a minicamp. That time's past now and so
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now he's just hoping to be in there for a
training camp with some of the teams so he can
learn that offense and move move forward. But it definitely
sounds like he wants the Browns to come crawling back
to him, and it would be, I would say comical
to see if that actually ended up taking place, would
be one of the most I mean, but don't you
think that, don't you You're right, don't you think that
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Cleveland has positioned themselves where no matter what decision they
make outside of using air backups, like it's it's gonna
be uh, it's just going to be a bad outcome
in terms of how they're they're perceived, how it's reported,
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how it's covered there there, they've put themselves in pretty
much no win's situation. If if Baker were to come
back and play poorly, I mean, does he have the
reasoning to say, look at the circumstances I was brought
back under, Like, can you really hold Baker Mayfield accountable
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if this season does become a wash, if this team
doesn't perform this year, when you put all that money
down on Deshaun Watson to be that missing piece Cleveland,
Cleveland has to look at whoever the quarterback situation or
the Cuban well, it doesn't matter because you when when
it comes down to the Shawn Watson situation, it makes
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the entire situation bad. There's no way to look at
the season unless they're winning. Unless they're winning, there's that's
the only like, that's the only way Cleveland kind of
stays face getting through all of the mess that they're
sitting in right now, is they have to win don't
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everything else is bad. Don't you guys think if if
they have to turn back to Baker Mayfield, Because first
of all, I think they've supplanted Jacksonville. This soft season
is the laughing stock of the league. I I think
that that ship is sailed and they are running away
with it. But if you were, if you were a
Browns fan, and you're looking at the scenario in the
situation the way it is, and that's a great fan base,
and Brady would know this better than anybody. I I
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get the feeling if Baker Mayfield came back and started
for the Browns, the reception he Oh my god, the
reception he would get from that fan base. I think
they would welcome him back with open arms, and I
think they would celebrate him coming back in the starter there.
I don't think they're gonna hold him accountable if he
didn't play the best for Paul. I really don't. I
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don't think the fan base would. Now I don't know
what that means for his career, but I don't think
the fan base under these circumstances would feel as though
Baker Mayfield was put in a position to have success
as a starting quarterback for this team in particular. Man,
it is tough. I think he I think he would
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receive a a warm the reception for coming back. A
lot of people though in Cleveland, feel like part of
the reason why they've got Deshaun Watson or find themselves
in this position is because of how Baker Mayfield handled
himself in all of it in regards to those contract negotiations,
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and so it's not completely blameless, but I think a
lot of people would probably forget about that to have
a shot at being a playoff team again, winning a
playoff game, both things that Baker Mayfield already accomplished as
the Cleveland Brown's quarterback. So um, I'm I'm with you.
And by the way, like we tend to forget, like
they traded from Mary Cooper, the Odell Beckham situation gone.
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You know, I think they'll be better off, you know,
this year, passing and doing some of the things they'll
be doing, um in what they were in the past,
especially when Baker is healthy. So it makes sense. We'll
see if the two sides can reconcile their differences. Be
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I ha LaVar, your former team, the Washington Commandos in
the news, and it's not about dance night or hiding
from you know, you gotta be you gotta be happy
about that right, big time. That's a step in the
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right direction, right step in the right direction. And you
gotta believe that it was purposefully done. You think do
you think the Terry McLaurin suspendon had something to do
with dance I'm sorry, I've had Watson. You go too
much to Sean on the brain and that's why that's
why you should have thought extension. You are stupid and
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you know what they but you and they can't hold you.
They can only hope to contain. There's nothing. There's nothing
wrong with what I just said. I mean, that might
be the quickest witty response I've heard. That was quick.
That one was like almost. I mean, qu that is
that is wow with a tear in my eye, what
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he has become on radio With a tear in my eye,
It's what I'm going to move on. Which one I've
always wanted. My god, it's happened. That was funny as hell.
I don't know how many people caught it at this
hour during the day, but it was pretty clear through
it did. Pathy. So Terry, Terry McLaurin, the Commandos star
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wide receiver, UH, he has got a three year extension
worth reportedly up to seventy one million dollars. He also
got a signing bonus, which, if I'm not mistaken, this
is the UH largest signing bonus ever given to a
wide receiver twenty eight million dollars. So Carson Wentz has
got some help there in d C. Is the UH.
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The Commandos look to try and take a step in
that nfc EA's great offseason for the wide receiver position group.
Huh man. I mean, Terry McLaurin is their their best
their best threat, their best offensive threat. And and you
know whether I'm not going to get into debating that that.
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You know, okay, I know I wouldn't consider him a
top top top like you know, first tier receiver yet
at least I wouldn't. I wouldn't, sirium that. But he's
what the doctor ordered for this team. I mean, all
all things, given the things that I've heard about Terry
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McLaurin have been glowing. Um. I mean they needed a
feel good story too too to come from that that organization.
So you would have to assume if you were going
to do something this this was this was going to
be a contract that needed to get you know, done anyway,
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So why not do it in a form and a
fashion that takes the spotlight off of anything negative and
and makes it a positive. And in terms of the
interesting thing about the the team is is that they
have been changing the culture of of the organization. I
can confirm that I still keep in contact with several
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different people, um, you know, from from the team president
to uh Tim high Tower who handles things with with
UM you know, alumni relations to a few other people
that still work in the in front office that that
I have relationships with. UM. The team is improving and
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and and I think they've improved this offseason. Um how much,
I don't know. I don't know how much Carson Wentz
will make them improve. But too to award McLaren with
a you know, a nice contract, I think it was
a move to honestly, I mean, you're rewarding your guy,
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But I just think that it was obviously to make
sure that there is a feel good story or or
to take the attention off of so many negative things
that have been surrounding the owner versus what direction is
that the actual team going in. He seems like like
everything to your point that we've heard. I think even
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Urban Meyers spoken pretty highly of him, like that he's
just a good dude, good leader. Um and and he's
the right guy to give a contract to at this
point seems like no. I mean, he's the best wide
receiver on their team, and you know, he's got all
of the components that you're looking for for a wide receiver.
He's blazing fast, he's a precise route runner, good hands, guy,
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blocks does everything well. I mean, I remember when he
was at Ohio State watching him, like man, he was
just it was it was such a loaded roster of
wide receivers and it has been there for quite some time.
It was just hard for everyone to get touches and
people they could be And I remember talking to Brian Hartline,
He's like, he'll end up having a better pro career
than he will college career, purely because of you know,
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at the time some of the circumstances around the offense.
But just even the fact of how many players that
he was, you know, playing with and around him that
we're gonna take away from his touches. And sure enough
you could see once he got to the NFL level
and he's really been able to seize the opportunity. So
kudos to him. Uh, it would in every capacity, and
I think it's signing most what we said, the largest
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the wide receiver signs. So you know, it's always funny
to me, though. You'll get some haters out there who
are like, oh, well, you know he's he's not the
top five wide receivers. You get paid like one. It's like,
come on, man, like you go buy gas right now
and to fill up your tank. And and it's just
it's the cost of doing business, you know that. That's
what it is. And that's why all these wide receivers
have been able to have this big time you know,
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off season of signing these extensions and deals because the
domino effect that that occurs, and that's what it costs off.
You've got a number one wide receiver and he's sniffing
an opportunity of free agency. This is what happens. This
is what you do, and honestly, you should. You should
take this, you know, and apply it to your professional situation.
Like if you've got one year left on your deal
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with your company and you're outperforming and you look at
the curve. I mean, look at airlines right now. You
have pilots left and right are trying to strike and
you know, trying to put it to some of these
airlines because they know they're needed, they know they're in
high demand. They see how much they're charging for flights,
and they're like, we need to get a piece of this,
so they're trying to better their situation. You should do
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the same. And I think I think it's what all
the wide receivers have really done, you know, so far
this offseason. It will be interesting to see though. Um
I saw a tweet out from the Washington Commandos and
it was a picture of a picture of Carson Wentz
is QB one. There's a very very mixed reactions. And
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to that point, McLaren has paid played for nine different
starters during his short time there, and and and think
about this, and think about this and three years and
three season nine and three years and listen and think
about this and those three seasons, two times he's gone
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over a thousand yards receiving. So you take those odds
with that production, UM, I would say he's definitely deserving
of the contract that he's received. That's unbelievable. But I'm
glad you brought up gas can I can I bitch
about something real quick? Here's here's what kisces me off
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the gas station? Are you doing some of them you
can fill all the way up. The others they'll stop. Okay,
if I'm there, I don't want to have to make
another trip. I had to fill up after the show yesterday.
I didn't even fill up my entire tank, and it
stopped me in a hundred dollars. So now I have
to go back earlier to fill up again at some point. No, no, no, no,
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that that's crap. You just you got to fill up.
I don't have to make two trips if I'm gonna
have to wear it and and get stuck by gas
stations and by the by the oil prices. Let me
just make one trips. I don't have to go back
there a couple of days earlier than I would have
had to because you stopped me in a hundred dollars.
It sounds like a rich guy to me planning right now.
That's a hard hat lunch pail take is what that is?
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That to your buddies on Instagram, Lavard? Also, do you
guys give Washington be be honest here? Do you give
him any chance at winning the NFC East? Okay, alright,
I mean, but that has a lot to do. I
think with Ron Rivera like, I believe in him as
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a head coach. I believe their roster defensively, especially comes back.
He's healthy. I mean that that they're a beast now
on that side of the ball, and offensively, I mean looks.
Say what you want about Wentz. I mean he didn't
play great down the stretch and there was some some
flashes of just what the hell was that? But he
wasn't that bad. I mean, I think the toughest thing
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for him was it was the first year to new offense.
He's gonna do that again. But I don't know. I
like what they have out around them. I like what
they've built out around them. I mean, this team that
could surprise a lot of people this year in the
NFC East. They'll sneak up on some people, and their
defense underachieved last year. You know, they had even gotten
to the point we saw to the leaders to the Alabamians, Uh,
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you know, having a debate on the sideline during one
of the games games. Yeah, it was a debate. Um.
I think they have the potential to have one of
the best defenses, um in the NFC, not just the
NFC East. They have the potential to have one of
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the best defenses in the NFC. Now, the question has
always been can their offense do what they need to
do in order for them to be able to take
that that next step. So that's going to be to me,
you know, the biggest question is can they can they
take a a bigger step forward? You know, keep in
mind they lost Brandon Sheriff, um, who was you know,
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obviously a an anchor for for their offensive line. So
it'll be interesting to see what there what their offense
looks like. I'm I'm with you on the chase young take.
Can he come back and and and re established his
dominance um that he was able to do so early
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on in his career. But I don't I don't. I
don't count them out of being in in the hunt
for winning an NFC East crown. Everybody has given it
to to Dallas. But I honestly think that the team
in pole position is Philly and the dark Horses, the
Washington Commanders. Where do you put Carson Wants amongst quarter
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starting quarterbacks in that division? Do you put him ahead
of Jalen Hurts? I do today? Yeah? Today? Yeah, the
dude's done more in his career. You gotta give him
some credits today. Yeah, you gotta give him put a
little bit spects. Yeah, you guys have some respect for
old w D. Forty neck over there. And and I mean,
are you taking h dimes over him? No? Yeah, I
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mean are you taking Daniel Jones over it? Yeah? Absolutely not? Definitely.
Why are you laughing? I just not just this show?
What are you? What are you trying to make out
of that? That's I don't kid, Oh my gosh, I
just no, no, no, just uh. Don't they call him Danny?
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What's not? What? It's not what we call Daniel Jones?
What we call Carson Wentz Daniel Jones? Oh you're trying
to laugh at your own jokes? W Yeah, that was
a bars joke. He called him w D. Forty neck
a couple of months ago. So I just I mean,
that's kind of funny. I don't you know, kind of
the key. Yeah, it's jokes. Don't act me. I don't know.
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It's a bar joke. Well, I probably delivered it differently
than you did, though, sure it could have been just
as corny is that when you just did it. Now,
by the way, A plus five hundred if you like
the Commandos to win the NFC East according to our
I would take it. Yeah, take the hundred bucks to
win five hunder, I'll take that. So there's so there
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you go. And uh and it is Dallas, uh plus
one thirty five, Philly plus one sixty five Giants plus
eight hundred, which basically means, uh, with the Giants, you
lay down ten dollars if they win the division. You
want to lear jet it is based on what they're saying.
By the plus eight hunters, they've got no chance, zero
chance whatsoever. But uh, there it is so LaVar plus
one sixty five. If you're so confident in Philly, you
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can make some money there. So how about that? I
think Philly's gone go and get it. I think that
if all things given, God stay healthy, I think Philly
is going to be a fine team this year. It's
uh to know you got a guy. You got a guy,
by the way, not not to jump in on your plug,
but you got a guy and a coach that will
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try to beat your ass in rock paper scissors. And
you know, when you're that competitive, you gotta believe that
your team has an opportunity to be competitive. Um and
winning the division. By the way, pretty are you like
the fact that you mean you and Syrianni like you know, Sirianni.
The fact that you've now discovered that your Italian Like,
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don't you think that would bring you guys even closer
now that he's discovered it. Yeah. Be sure to catch
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He's also a Fox college football analysts Pee. What's happening?
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How are you doing? Good morning? Hello? Hello? Do you
good morning? Everybody? You didn't come out to the seven? Awesome? No.
I thought about it and then I went on with
the rest of the weekend. But people toxically and I
was too busy screaming at my kids all weekend. I
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couldn't be bothered. But how did we do? Did did
Charter out perform? We came at third? We lost? Uh
we lost to Alamidos who ended up winning the Griffins.
They have the quarterback that's committed to USC don't oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
and he's good. He's pretty good. Yeah, he's he's He
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was the kid who was with McKay lemon, his receiver.
He was committed to Oklahoma, but he was one of
the kids who they flipped with usc flip how they
might flip again. Who knows he's he can put the
ball in there? I'll tell you that. Yeah, I saw
him play. I did one of his games during the
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COVID season when I was doing the high school games
because we didn't have anything going on in the spring,
and he was a lot of fun to watch when
I was a kid. Los Salamidos High School which is
in northern Orange County. It's got a race track there,
the home of the Griffins. A lot of people would
remember Low Salamidos because the great J. T. Snow, who
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was a baseball play or son of Jack Snow. The
legendary ran from that of John Snow. Snow. Yeah, cold bastards,
all of the bastard. I'm a cold bastard like I
was John Snow and Snow Snow the rap right piano
you're a big fan of him is yeah from Toronto,
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you know, say come yeah. There is a large Jamaican
contention of people in the city of Toronto, and there's
there's Jamaicans in Canada a lot like they're Jamaicans in
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England because uh, you know, the whole UK connection there,
and because of that they did produce Daddy Snow, who
is the white dancehall rapper from the song Informer. He
has a song called anything Just for You that he
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did in Jamaica that literally has like twelve of the
most famous dance hall artists of all time on it,
which is funny. I mean it would be like if
Vanilla Ice had a song that had Kanye West Tupac
peg small like it's an amazing But he was popular
in Jamaica. He was not seen as a fraud like
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a lot of people would think. They They saw him
as a guy who was bringing their very very obscure
genre of music to the world. So I like Daddy Snow.
I like that song when it came out. I could
do without the wrapping part. Uh, Petris, I gotta get
your thoughts on this. Uh you follow Snow on Instagram?
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That's all good? Um? Now do you follow Freddie Freeman
on Instagram? And is he still uh you know, crying
about everything? Okay? So now he fired his a gent
reportedly because he didn't like how things were handled. It
was really awkward. This past whole thing is very odd.
What's going on. I've never seen anything so odd. I mean,
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we all understand nostalgia and being emotional about being part
of something in the past, but you're playing baseball and
you're being paid tens of dozens of millions of dollars
upon every year to play the game, and it's just
hard to imagine that he could be I guess we
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talked to Don mcclin about this, Don McClain, who is
pretty adroit when it comes to negotiations and modernor not
Don Martin, not Don mcdono, yeah, Don mcclin. Well, Don
mcclein is a basketball analyst and a former NBA player.
But and that's all great, but he's not just a
talking head, and he works for C A A and
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he works out like every morning he spends the day
working out with Paul George and people like that. I mean,
NBA players pay him to work them out. So he's
kind of got more of an inn in that way.
And it was interesting with talking to Don about the
Freddie Freeman thing was how how could you have been
so uninformed throughout the situation? I mean, how could your
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agent have really been that rogue or how could you
have not known what was going on in the negotiation,
which is alleged. Now with the firing of the agent,
it just seems really odd, Like I didn't know about
all this until I went back to Atlanta and talk
to some people. It's like, well, you don't have a
phone like where, you know what I mean, just because
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there was a lockout didn't mean that you like couldn't
communicate with anybody. I mean, it's very odd the way
that whole thing played out. And then you see him
crying and screaming for the second time, and I think
there was a lot of shoulders shrugging within the Dodger
organization and on the team. From what I understand, Clayton
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Kershaw made weird kind of cryptic second fiddle comment that
was interesting, and I've never seen anything like it. And
now I have Dodger people starting to send me pictures
of all the guys and the dug out up on
the rail and Freddie Freeman sitting alone like it's weird.
It's a long way away from when everybody was chanting
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Freddy and he was on the second base when the
season started, and he's from here, you know, I mean,
it's not like he's from Kentucky and he needs he
sings my old Kentucky home every night and he needs
to get back like he's from Orange County. So it
is very curious, and it's a I mean, love the
one you're with, right the eagle flies with the dove.
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Love the one you're with. Nobody wants to hear about
your ax, you know, when you dance them too close
to your thick ax. In the South, it started to
make the Dodgers a little bit angry that you don't
think that the Atlanta Braves were a woman. You don't
think she'd be thinking and an abundant woman, I mean,
just a world serious champion and a bundo. Is it
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distasteful to ask you about the latest on Cleveland Browns
and and what they got going on? Obviously, Baker Mayfield comments,
I was going to make a joke out of it,
but I think it's too soon, So I kind of like,
stay're clear of it. Um too soon you? Uh no,
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I'm not gonna say it. Um the Baker Mayfield common see,
he doesn't close the door, uh completely. On the scenario
of possibly returning to the team. What what do what's
your take on it? Do you think there's any possibility
that could happen? Yeah? Well, I think we all know
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how to love the one we're with, right, I mean,
in the world of football and the world of what
whatever you're doing broadcasting. But but you know what I mean,
I mean, you have to be able, you have to
be able to be a little bit more measured in
these situations. And the social media part of it has
really hurt a lot of these guys. Baker Mayfield should
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should just have kept his mouth shut the whole time,
and he would be in a much better position right now.
But because he had to go say all that stuff
right when all this stuff started, he wasn't an Instagram post,
am I correct and saying that I think it was
snap face. Maybe I don't know. Yeah, he was once
check out a face. And because Jonas doesn't know what
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it is, yeah, you know, I mean, he would look
he would end up looking like he doesn't look super
bad right now, but he would end up looking like
like a guy who was really rising above the fray.
If he had never sent that post, right then he
would be in a much more powerful, less bitch like position.
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And and I would appreciate that. I like, I like
what I mean, you don't sound like a little bit
like we don't want meal and write a whole thing
about it. I mean, that's not professional, that's petro. So
how would Don Martin um thing about it being a
little bit Don Martinis, I'm approachable right now, but there
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is a two week a two week radius, uh that
we need to keep from Dawn because one of the
Colorado teams just won a championship. So if one of
the Colorado team, my man, they are painting the town, yeah,
snow colored for the als he loves. I mean, he
was very upset about how the Tampa Bay guy alleged
there was like we any of us know the rules
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in hockey, Like you know how many guys get to
me my mom? They wouldn't have participate in You saw
clearly there was a live change and he was walking
around telling everybody about So Don is very If you
want to talk to Don right now, just be very
excited about the ass and his Rockies have taken two
or three so far from the Dodgers. Who Freddie Freeman's
like him exact with his stick X. Don't you guys,
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don't you guys think of Baker Mayfield never said anything
about this? Did he be in a much better negotiable position. Yes,
which is why it pays you not like as much
as you want to be like one of those outspoken
like I wear my emotions. I wrote the Athletic I
wrote a big thing to the players tribute. It's just
like you just don't say anything and then like maybe
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this thing will you'll look out, it will work in
your favor. But even now, like now, how he's you know,
kind of well, you know, we mutually agreed to go
our separate ways and he had ruled out, but he
makes it seem as if like, oh, Cleveland's gotta come
crawling back to me just anyway, um am I am.
I am curious though, And I know we've talked about
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like the Watson stuff and all that, do you I
don't know. Happy Baby was so suggestive whenever they gave
me into the happy Baby post. Now whenever yoga every day,
I'm like, damn, I hope somebody hasn't grabbed my boots.
Well I think that was the point of it, though.
I think they wanted the puzzo grabbed. Yeah, I guess
he would like lean over there, like, hey, a little
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a little batting practice with the old We're so tired
of talking about it. Yet, I don't know that there'll
ever be anything that comes close to this ever again
in sports? Is that a fair assessment of what's happened? Well,
I mean, I don't think he's the first gun to
get a massage and then expect to knuckles shuffle, which
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is obviously with seventy different women over representation, right. No, No,
he's he's he's definitely got some kind of issue. I mean,
I don't know, but the fact that we're all just
trying to sit here and process it, like, hey, I
guess he's an eccentric, Like I don't you know the
fact that he's going to be under center playing quarterback
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for like five years for Cleveland under center? Huh yeah? Well,
or unless out he's out of the shotgun. I mean,
it really just depends on the If you've ever, guys,
ever seen what a new room massages? No, I think
I think Deshan knows, and you are you it's not
(40:11):
safe for work. I'm sure you're at home. We'll leave
that alone. But I think that's what I think DeShawn
knows about that. I mean, you just think about like
all the exotic forms of massage that he's heard of
and is into I mean, what a weirdo, Right, he's
just a he's a weirdo. Well, that's pretty weird. Have
jail powder for these the new room Yeah, I mean
(40:37):
I think you need like like one of those giant,
like floaty things you would put in the pool to
put like the middle of the bathroom for a new
room massage. It's basically where the other person massages you
with their whole body. Yeah. I think if it doesn't
lead to sex, somebody's got to be impotent. Oh, I'm
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just saying. You know, there's all kinds of different massage.
I mean, but hey, you know two d thirty million
dollars guaranteed later and a lot of massage. That's a
lot of new room. Yeah, that's a lot of powder.
On all the fats of Google, all those are slippery, Yes, massage. Petris,
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what's the weird Since you've been doing sports talk radio?
Said you glad you caught it. You brought it up.
One of the one of the things to describe it
was slippery, Petros had you've been doing sports radio, what
what is the essence? This is a weird story that
the Shawan saga. What's one of the weirdest stories that
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comes to mind that you go, that's a weird story
that I'll never be covering in radio. The truth is
always stranger than fiction. So like there's we all have Brady,
maybe not because of the Notre Dame thing. And they're
a little bit more like Stanford in a way where
like when you talk to the guys and you and
you exchange stories, sometimes the Stanford guys are like and
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you'll be like, well, you know, we had this guy
and he had a baby mom and then he got
caught naked running down the street with it, you know,
like sub like that. And they'll be like, yeah, well,
one night, you know, we drank a twelve or a
mountain dew and uh, Andrew Luck played Tchaikovsky all night
on the piano, you know. Uh. But I mean a
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lot of this stuff just from when you were playing
and stuff like that you just took for granted as
an eighteen year old kids as a normal thing. You know,
like sleeping in the locker room next to Charles White.
You know, even though you want to Heisman, it's like,
why is he sleeping on the locker room floor with me?
What where our lives converged in this way. Uh, you know,
just stuff like that. But I mean, we talk about
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guys in plastic countfits running into each other for millions
of dollars a year, like that's our job. So to
not expect things to be quite strange and people to
be really weird and have some really strange things going
on is I think a little bit naive. But what's
the craziest thing I've ever heard of? I don't, I
mean something repeatable, nothing being horrible things. I walked into
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rooms and been like, oh my god, I had to
turn around and walk right back up just from from
you doing radio, like the weird story you can remember.
Oh I don't know. I mean, I remember one time
when I was first starting radio, the Lakers were all
out and like Manhattan Beach or something, and one of
them like took guy's birthday cake and threw it on
his head, like Rony turry off or and it's like,
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you know, you get like the sixties, seventy year old
sports writers like, well, gonna throw the cake on his head,
and there's not better any comment from the tree. But
it's it's like, oh my god, you know, I can't
really it's five thirty in the morning. Though out here
I can't really think of anything like I mean, there's
just all the USC stuff. It's just like when the
guy tried to say he was saving his cousin from
(44:02):
drowning and he was really running from the cops, and
they're like, but he saved him for drowning, and they
were like, yeah, but the but the cousins the house
doesn't have a pool. Who was that again, Josh? But
the thing that makes me sick he just got drafted.
Didn't here recently? He played? Am I thinking I played
(44:22):
a long time. Now I'm thinking of the other kid. Uh,
never mind, I'm thinking a completely different kid from USC.
But everybody lined up to like defend the kid before
they even learned the story, right that USC tried to say,
Like the USC had like the crossover media there that day,
like good Morning America. Everybody ready to call this kid
a hero until somebody with half a brain was like,
(44:45):
he's lying the lie and they had to walk it back.
But I guess people's willingness to believe things like if
I was a football player and the captain of that
team with that guy and that happened, I'd be like Okay,
I'd call him up say, Okay, what really happened, you know,
before any of that stuff actually went down. So I
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guess everybody's naivete to a certain degree is what continues
to surprise me. Like I remember walking out of a
meeting with Art Briles with a with a certain football analysts,
and uh, the analyst was like, that's a that's a
great man. I was like, are you kidding me? DoD
We just we just in the same I feel like
I need to take a shower, Like, were we just
in the same meeting? You know, well, you don't understand
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the Big twelve. You don't know what it's like here.
It's like, okay, stuff like that. I guess get him
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Joe with LaVar Areas and Rady Quinn and Jonas Knocks
on Fox fourth Radio. So we talked about the the
Baker Mayfield excuse me, the Deshaun Watson situation, uh, and
some of the criticism this show Mayfield, it's it's turned
(00:24):
into it now. Um. So, Baker Mayfield was at a
he was at a youth football camp in Norman, Oklahoma,
on Tuesday, and he was asked about a possible reconciliation
with the Browns if they need to turn to him
because of the Deshaun Watson stuff. Here's what Baker had
to say yesterday. I think it's been pretty obvious the
mutual decision on both sides is to move on. You know,
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I'm I'm thankful for my four years in Cleveland. There's
a lot of ups and downs and a ton of
learning experiences that you know forever keep with me, teammates
and friends and relationships that will have for a lifetime.
And I think a lot of people think if they
didn't have a quarterback from the next year, but would
there be any chance of reconciliation there? No, I think
for that to happen. They would have to be some
reaching out, but we're ready to move on. I think
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on both sides, Hey, is there some hope there? It
sounded like it we got some hope there. Come on,
it sounded like he wants them to crawl that well,
and what other way? What they? What other way would
it have to happen? You know, why wouldn't it be
crawling back, grappling, begging? You know, why wouldn't it be
(01:30):
that down on a bended knee. Yeah, boys to men um.
I'll be honest with you. I think the tables have
turned that you guys might you might say, because it's
crazy when I say this, the tables have turned so
much to the point where the Browns need Baker Mayfield.
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I'd go ask for more money. I would. I would
go ask for an extension. I'd say, you're gonna row
another year on my deal, and you're gonna pay me
a big signing bonus that I get right now. Because
here's what I know. I know you you've got deep pockets.
You must think a lot of this team. Maybe not
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a lot of me, but you must think a lot
of this team because you went out and paid a
guy more eighty million dollars in total guarantees, more than
anyone ever has in NFL history to sign a guy
who didn't play a year ago with all these allegations,
and so as much as that's about Deshaun Watson, it's
also about where you feel like this team's at because
you felt like he was a missing component. Well, guess what,
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you don't have him right now, but you can have me,
and if you want me, you're gonna have to pay
up for it, and then then you can trade me
for whatever you want after I ball out this season,
Like I would almost propose it as, Yeah, I know
you've got the pockets to pay it, because I've already
witnessed you pay another quarterback at someone else. But now
he's not gonna be there, so you need to figure
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out a way of compensating me what I want if
I'm gonna come back and play for your organization. And oh,
by the way, after this year, we're gonna figure out
a way of you trading me where I want to
go because I'm gonna ball out and there will be
greater trade demand for whatever contract we agree to, I mean,
and not the bare minimum they are already paying him
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a guaranteed contract, So you're gonna you're gonna put something
on top of that. You're gonna put something on top
of that, like you're gonna compensate me. You've embarrassed me.
You you have. You have made a poor decision and
in terms of what direction you were going to go
in away from me. And while the player on the
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field is better than who I am, and that might
not be up for debate, I think we all will
agree that the character issue far has exceeded anything that
would matter towards the playing aspect of what's going on here.
Baker Mayfield has never been an issue in in that manner,
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you could say what you want to say. He might
be brash in your opinion and assessment assumption of how
he handles the media. You know, different members of the media.
You know you may not like his his commercials where
where the stadium is his home. You know you might
not like him on the high I don't know who cares,
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but Baker Mayfield has been put in a position where,
almost if we're being real here, his career has been
put on hold, and by this decision, it's been put
on old. So you're gonna compensate me for that. If
I'm Baker Mayfield, I'll come back and I'll play for you.
But you're gonna compensate me for for this. You're not
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going to just bring me back. And it's like, Okay,
you're still on the roster, come back and play now.
You were getting rid of me. You didn't want me.
You you clearly valued someone tremendously, tremendously, tremendously more than me.
Taking consideration the mental emotional aspects of going through a
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season hurt. It's not even like he went through. It's
a regular season. I had a bad season. The entire team,
key pieces of the team were hurt, including him, and
guys were pushing through, including him, to get through the
season on on injury on injuries. So to me, I
don't Yes, I don't think I closed the door because
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I think he kept it open. They would have to
reach out one but two, I'm with you, Q. I
think that you definitely you definitely go for more compensation
and being uh the former starter that becomes the relief,
pick up the pieces and clean up the mess and
see what we can do with this season person in
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the scenario, and that does carry value with it and
we out about it yesterday. It's not like they were
a two win team. They won eight games last year
and they had injuries all over the place. Odell Beckham,
that whole situation was a disaster. Jarvis Landry's was breaking down. Yeah,
like they So it's not like this was just an
awful football They weren't the four win team that Deshaun
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Watson last played for in Houston, all right. They weren't
the worst team in the league. And Baker Mayfield was
banged up. So you look look at the depth chart.
I mean, he's better than Jacoby Brissette, He's better than
Josh Dobbs and and and Deshaun Watson's not there and
probably not gonna be there. So I just to me,
isn't this all on Andrew Berry? Because if you asked
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Kevin Stefanski, I'll bet you Kevin Stefanski would say, hey,
I'll run it back with Baker. I mean, like, if
we're in this position here and we've got to compete
with all the talent in our division and in the
a f C, I'd rather deal with it, deal with
maybe the attitude and some of the hurt feelings and
run it back with Baker Mayfield. But doesn't this come
down to either Andrew Berry or Jimmy Hasm or whoever
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signed off on all these moves to swallow their pride,
understand they're gonna have to take a couple of els
this offseason, and they're gonna have to make things right
with Baker Mayfield. Otherwise. I just don't see how what happened.
It's uh, it's it's almost as if though you want
to kind of I don't know, like called the season
a wash, but it's unfortunate for Kevin Stefanski, the entire
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roster that you've built at this point that is talented
and has the opportunity to do something. Um, it's hard
to it's hard to feel like the NFL is not
going to suspend Watson for a year. And if that's
the case, I just you know, what are the solution
do you have? You know, who else are you looking for?
Do you try to trade them to Carolina eat some
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of the money's and just bringing Sam Donald? You know,
I mean there's not many other Jimmy G. I think
the problem is, you know, I got like Jimmy G.
Maybe Sam Donald. They might look at it and say Okay,
like I get an opportunity to go start, Watson's not there.
It's a talented roster, all these things, but you know
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it's a one year deal and then you're moving on
again after a year. Maybe they don't care. I don't know.
I'm just saying it's it's hard to find someone who's
willing to come in for a year's time knowing it's
not going to be your team and there's no long
term solution for you to want to sign up for that.
But it is an opportunity. You know, in Carolina, we
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don't know that Sam Donald is gonna receive an opportunity.
Maybe it'll be mac correl. You know, we don't know
how that's all gonna play out eventually, but we do
know this. I mean San Francisco, it sounds like it's
trade lance. So if that's the case, if you're gonna
help you helping Jimmy Garoppolo, maybe you find a way
of trading for him. But you know, I don't think
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Baker mayfand wants to go there. I mean, that's the
hard thing about this is is you're almost making either
a three team trade or you're doing separate trades where
it's like future draft picks or maybe current players on
the roster not involving Baker because San Francisco doesn't need
a quarterback solution, right, I mean, Carolina technically doesn't need one.
Maybe they just don't like the guy they have that much.
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So it it's gonna be interesting to see how it
would be orchestrated. That's why you you're kind of looking
and go, yeah, I don't know. I don't know where
Baker Mayfield ends up at this point in time, given
how late it is in the year, and he talked
about that in this interview, but he's frustrated with it
because he would have rather been in there for o
T as a minicamp. That time's past now and so
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now he's just hoping to be in there for a
training camp with some of the teams so he can
learn that offense and move move forward. But it definitely
sounds like he wants the Browns to come crawling back
to him, and it would be, I would say comical
to see if that actually ended up taking place, would
be one of the most I mean, but don't you
think that, don't you You're right, don't you think that
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Cleveland has positioned themselves where no matter what decision they
make outside of using air backups, like it's it's gonna
be uh, it's just going to be a bad outcome
in terms of how they're they're perceived, how it's reported,
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how it's covered there there, they've put themselves in pretty
much no win's situation. If if Baker were to come
back and play poorly, I mean, does he have the
reasoning to say, look at the circumstances I was brought
back under, Like, can you really hold Baker Mayfield accountable
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if this season does become a wash, if this team
doesn't perform this year, when you put all that money
down on Deshaun Watson to be that missing piece Cleveland,
Cleveland has to look at whoever the quarterback situation or
the Cuban well, it doesn't matter because you when when
it comes down to the Shawn Watson situation, it makes
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the entire situation bad. There's no way to look at
the season unless they're winning. Unless they're winning, there's that's
the only like, that's the only way Cleveland kind of
stays face getting through all of the mess that they're
sitting in right now, is they have to win don't
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everything else is bad. Don't you guys think if if
they have to turn back to Baker Mayfield, Because first
of all, I think they've supplanted Jacksonville. This soft season
is the laughing stock of the league. I I think
that that ship is sailed and they are running away
with it. But if you were, if you were a
Browns fan, and you're looking at the scenario in the
situation the way it is, and that's a great fan base,
and Brady would know this better than anybody. I I
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get the feeling if Baker Mayfield came back and started
for the Browns, the reception he Oh my god, the
reception he would get from that fan base. I think
they would welcome him back with open arms, and I
think they would celebrate him coming back in the starter there.
I don't think they're gonna hold him accountable if he
didn't play the best for Paul. I really don't. I
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don't think the fan base would. Now I don't know
what that means for his career, but I don't think
the fan base under these circumstances would feel as though
Baker Mayfield was put in a position to have success
as a starting quarterback for this team in particular. Man,
it is tough. I think he I think he would
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receive a a warm the reception for coming back. A
lot of people though in Cleveland, feel like part of
the reason why they've got Deshaun Watson or find themselves
in this position is because of how Baker Mayfield handled
himself in all of it in regards to those contract negotiations,
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and so it's not completely blameless, but I think a
lot of people would probably forget about that to have
a shot at being a playoff team again, winning a
playoff game, both things that Baker Mayfield already accomplished as
the Cleveland Brown's quarterback. So um, I'm I'm with you.
And by the way, like we tend to forget, like
they traded from Mary Cooper, the Odell Beckham situation gone.
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You know, I think they'll be better off, you know,
this year, passing and doing some of the things they'll
be doing, um in what they were in the past,
especially when Baker is healthy. So it makes sense. We'll
see if the two sides can reconcile their differences. Be
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I ha LaVar, your former team, the Washington Commandos in
the news, and it's not about dance night or hiding
from you know, you gotta be you gotta be happy
about that right, big time. That's a step in the
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right direction, right step in the right direction. And you
gotta believe that it was purposefully done. You think do
you think the Terry McLaurin suspendon had something to do
with dance I'm sorry, I've had Watson. You go too
much to Sean on the brain and that's why that's
why you should have thought extension. You are stupid and
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you know what they but you and they can't hold you.
They can only hope to contain. There's nothing. There's nothing
wrong with what I just said. I mean, that might
be the quickest witty response I've heard. That was quick.
That one was like almost. I mean, qu that is
that is wow with a tear in my eye, what
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he has become on radio With a tear in my eye,
It's what I'm going to move on. Which one I've
always wanted. My god, it's happened. That was funny as hell.
I don't know how many people caught it at this
hour during the day, but it was pretty clear through
it did. Pathy. So Terry, Terry McLaurin, the Commandos star
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wide receiver, UH, he has got a three year extension
worth reportedly up to seventy one million dollars. He also
got a signing bonus, which, if I'm not mistaken, this
is the UH largest signing bonus ever given to a
wide receiver twenty eight million dollars. So Carson Wentz has
got some help there in d C. Is the UH.
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The Commandos look to try and take a step in
that nfc EA's great offseason for the wide receiver position group.
Huh man. I mean, Terry McLaurin is their their best
their best threat, their best offensive threat. And and you
know whether I'm not going to get into debating that that.
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You know, okay, I know I wouldn't consider him a
top top top like you know, first tier receiver yet
at least I wouldn't. I wouldn't, sirium that. But he's
what the doctor ordered for this team. I mean, all
all things, given the things that I've heard about Terry
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McLaurin have been glowing. Um. I mean they needed a
feel good story too too to come from that that organization.
So you would have to assume if you were going
to do something this this was this was going to
be a contract that needed to get you know, done anyway,
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So why not do it in a form and a
fashion that takes the spotlight off of anything negative and
and makes it a positive. And in terms of the
interesting thing about the the team is is that they
have been changing the culture of of the organization. I
can confirm that I still keep in contact with several
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different people, um, you know, from from the team president
to uh Tim high Tower who handles things with with
UM you know, alumni relations to a few other people
that still work in the in front office that that
I have relationships with. UM. The team is improving and
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and and I think they've improved this offseason. Um how much,
I don't know. I don't know how much Carson Wentz
will make them improve. But too to award McLaren with
a you know, a nice contract, I think it was
a move to honestly, I mean, you're rewarding your guy,
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But I just think that it was obviously to make
sure that there is a feel good story or or
to take the attention off of so many negative things
that have been surrounding the owner versus what direction is
that the actual team going in. He seems like like
everything to your point that we've heard. I think even
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Urban Meyers spoken pretty highly of him, like that he's
just a good dude, good leader. Um and and he's
the right guy to give a contract to at this
point seems like no. I mean, he's the best wide
receiver on their team, and you know, he's got all
of the components that you're looking for for a wide receiver.
He's blazing fast, he's a precise route runner, good hands, guy,
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blocks does everything well. I mean, I remember when he
was at Ohio State watching him, like man, he was
just it was it was such a loaded roster of
wide receivers and it has been there for quite some time.
It was just hard for everyone to get touches and
people they could be And I remember talking to Brian Hartline,
He's like, he'll end up having a better pro career
than he will college career, purely because of you know,
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at the time some of the circumstances around the offense.
But just even the fact of how many players that
he was, you know, playing with and around him that
we're gonna take away from his touches. And sure enough
you could see once he got to the NFL level
and he's really been able to seize the opportunity. So
kudos to him. Uh, it would in every capacity, and
I think it's signing most what we said, the largest
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the wide receiver signs. So you know, it's always funny
to me, though. You'll get some haters out there who
are like, oh, well, you know he's he's not the
top five wide receivers. You get paid like one. It's like,
come on, man, like you go buy gas right now
and to fill up your tank. And and it's just
it's the cost of doing business, you know that. That's
what it is. And that's why all these wide receivers
have been able to have this big time you know,
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off season of signing these extensions and deals because the
domino effect that that occurs, and that's what it costs off.
You've got a number one wide receiver and he's sniffing
an opportunity of free agency. This is what happens. This
is what you do, and honestly, you should. You should
take this, you know, and apply it to your professional situation.
Like if you've got one year left on your deal
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with your company and you're outperforming and you look at
the curve. I mean, look at airlines right now. You
have pilots left and right are trying to strike and
you know, trying to put it to some of these
airlines because they know they're needed, they know they're in
high demand. They see how much they're charging for flights,
and they're like, we need to get a piece of this,
so they're trying to better their situation. You should do
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the same. And I think I think it's what all
the wide receivers have really done, you know, so far
this offseason. It will be interesting to see though. Um
I saw a tweet out from the Washington Commandos and
it was a picture of a picture of Carson Wentz
is QB one. There's a very very mixed reactions. And
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to that point, McLaren has paid played for nine different
starters during his short time there, and and and think
about this, and think about this and three years and
three season nine and three years and listen and think
about this and those three seasons, two times he's gone
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over a thousand yards receiving. So you take those odds
with that production, UM, I would say he's definitely deserving
of the contract that he's received. That's unbelievable. But I'm
glad you brought up gas can I can I bitch
about something real quick? Here's here's what kisces me off
(21:23):
the gas station? Are you doing some of them you
can fill all the way up. The others they'll stop. Okay,
if I'm there, I don't want to have to make
another trip. I had to fill up after the show yesterday.
I didn't even fill up my entire tank, and it
stopped me in a hundred dollars. So now I have
to go back earlier to fill up again at some point. No, no, no, no,
(21:52):
that that's crap. You just you got to fill up.
I don't have to make two trips if I'm gonna
have to wear it and and get stuck by gas
stations and by the by the oil prices. Let me
just make one trips. I don't have to go back
there a couple of days earlier than I would have
had to because you stopped me in a hundred dollars.
It sounds like a rich guy to me planning right now.
That's a hard hat lunch pail take is what that is?
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That to your buddies on Instagram, Lavard? Also, do you
guys give Washington be be honest here? Do you give
him any chance at winning the NFC East? Okay, alright,
I mean, but that has a lot to do. I
think with Ron Rivera like, I believe in him as
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a head coach. I believe their roster defensively, especially comes back.
He's healthy. I mean that that they're a beast now
on that side of the ball, and offensively, I mean looks.
Say what you want about Wentz. I mean he didn't
play great down the stretch and there was some some
flashes of just what the hell was that? But he
wasn't that bad. I mean, I think the toughest thing
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for him was it was the first year to new offense.
He's gonna do that again. But I don't know. I
like what they have out around them. I like what
they've built out around them. I mean, this team that
could surprise a lot of people this year in the
NFC East. They'll sneak up on some people, and their
defense underachieved last year. You know, they had even gotten
to the point we saw to the leaders to the Alabamians, Uh,
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you know, having a debate on the sideline during one
of the games games. Yeah, it was a debate. Um.
I think they have the potential to have one of
the best defenses, um in the NFC, not just the
NFC East. They have the potential to have one of
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the best defenses in the NFC. Now, the question has
always been can their offense do what they need to
do in order for them to be able to take
that that next step. So that's going to be to me,
you know, the biggest question is can they can they
take a a bigger step forward? You know, keep in
mind they lost Brandon Sheriff, um, who was you know,
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obviously a an anchor for for their offensive line. So
it'll be interesting to see what there what their offense
looks like. I'm I'm with you on the chase young take.
Can he come back and and and re established his
dominance um that he was able to do so early
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on in his career. But I don't I don't. I
don't count them out of being in in the hunt
for winning an NFC East crown. Everybody has given it
to to Dallas. But I honestly think that the team
in pole position is Philly and the dark Horses, the
Washington Commanders. Where do you put Carson Wants amongst quarter
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starting quarterbacks in that division? Do you put him ahead
of Jalen Hurts? I do today? Yeah? Today? Yeah, the
dude's done more in his career. You gotta give him
some credits today. Yeah, you gotta give him put a
little bit spects. Yeah, you guys have some respect for
old w D. Forty neck over there. And and I mean,
are you taking h dimes over him? No? Yeah, I
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mean are you taking Daniel Jones over it? Yeah? Absolutely not? Definitely.
Why are you laughing? I just not just this show?
What are you? What are you trying to make out
of that? That's I don't kid, Oh my gosh, I
just no, no, no, just uh. Don't they call him Danny?
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What's not? What? It's not what we call Daniel Jones?
What we call Carson Wentz Daniel Jones? Oh you're trying
to laugh at your own jokes? W Yeah, that was
a bars joke. He called him w D. Forty neck
a couple of months ago. So I just I mean,
that's kind of funny. I don't you know, kind of
the key. Yeah, it's jokes. Don't act me. I don't know.
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It's a bar joke. Well, I probably delivered it differently
than you did, though, sure it could have been just
as corny is that when you just did it. Now,
by the way, A plus five hundred if you like
the Commandos to win the NFC East according to our
I would take it. Yeah, take the hundred bucks to
win five hunder, I'll take that. So there's so there
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you go. And uh and it is Dallas, uh plus
one thirty five, Philly plus one sixty five Giants plus
eight hundred, which basically means, uh, with the Giants, you
lay down ten dollars if they win the division. You
want to lear jet it is based on what they're saying.
By the plus eight hunters, they've got no chance, zero
chance whatsoever. But uh, there it is so LaVar plus
one sixty five. If you're so confident in Philly, you
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can make some money there. So how about that? I
think Philly's gone go and get it. I think that
if all things given, God stay healthy, I think Philly
is going to be a fine team this year. It's
uh to know you got a guy. You got a guy,
by the way, not not to jump in on your plug,
but you got a guy and a coach that will
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try to beat your ass in rock paper scissors. And
you know, when you're that competitive, you gotta believe that
your team has an opportunity to be competitive. Um and
winning the division. By the way, pretty are you like
the fact that you mean you and Syrianni like you know, Sirianni.
The fact that you've now discovered that your Italian Like,
(27:26):
don't you think that would bring you guys even closer
now that he's discovered it. Yeah. Be sure to catch
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How are you doing? Good morning? Hello? Hello? Do you
good morning? Everybody? You didn't come out to the seven? Awesome? No.
I thought about it and then I went on with
the rest of the weekend. But people toxically and I
was too busy screaming at my kids all weekend. I
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couldn't be bothered. But how did we do? Did did
Charter out perform? We came at third? We lost? Uh
we lost to Alamidos who ended up winning the Griffins.
They have the quarterback that's committed to USC don't oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
and he's good. He's pretty good. Yeah, he's he's He
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was the kid who was with McKay lemon, his receiver.
He was committed to Oklahoma, but he was one of
the kids who they flipped with usc flip how they
might flip again. Who knows he's he can put the
ball in there? I'll tell you that. Yeah, I saw
him play. I did one of his games during the
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COVID season when I was doing the high school games
because we didn't have anything going on in the spring,
and he was a lot of fun to watch when
I was a kid. Los Salamidos High School which is
in northern Orange County. It's got a race track there,
the home of the Griffins. A lot of people would
remember Low Salamidos because the great J. T. Snow, who
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was a baseball play or son of Jack Snow. The
legendary ran from that of John Snow. Snow. Yeah, cold bastards,
all of the bastard. I'm a cold bastard like I
was John Snow and Snow Snow the rap right piano
you're a big fan of him is yeah from Toronto,
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you know, say come yeah. There is a large Jamaican
contention of people in the city of Toronto, and there's
there's Jamaicans in Canada a lot like they're Jamaicans in
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England because uh, you know, the whole UK connection there,
and because of that they did produce Daddy Snow, who
is the white dancehall rapper from the song Informer. He
has a song called anything Just for You that he
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did in Jamaica that literally has like twelve of the
most famous dance hall artists of all time on it,
which is funny. I mean it would be like if
Vanilla Ice had a song that had Kanye West Tupac
peg small like it's an amazing But he was popular
in Jamaica. He was not seen as a fraud like
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a lot of people would think. They They saw him
as a guy who was bringing their very very obscure
genre of music to the world. So I like Daddy Snow.
I like that song when it came out. I could
do without the wrapping part. Uh, Petris, I gotta get
your thoughts on this. Uh you follow Snow on Instagram?
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That's all good? Um? Now do you follow Freddie Freeman
on Instagram? And is he still uh you know, crying
about everything? Okay? So now he fired his a gent
reportedly because he didn't like how things were handled. It
was really awkward. This past whole thing is very odd.
What's going on. I've never seen anything so odd. I mean,
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we all understand nostalgia and being emotional about being part
of something in the past, but you're playing baseball and
you're being paid tens of dozens of millions of dollars
upon every year to play the game, and it's just
hard to imagine that he could be I guess we
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talked to Don mcclin about this, Don McClain, who is
pretty adroit when it comes to negotiations and modernor not
Don Martin, not Don mcdono, yeah, Don mcclin. Well, Don
mcclein is a basketball analyst and a former NBA player.
But and that's all great, but he's not just a
talking head, and he works for C A A and
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he works out like every morning he spends the day
working out with Paul George and people like that. I mean,
NBA players pay him to work them out. So he's
kind of got more of an inn in that way.
And it was interesting with talking to Don about the
Freddie Freeman thing was how how could you have been
so uninformed throughout the situation? I mean, how could your
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agent have really been that rogue or how could you
have not known what was going on in the negotiation,
which is alleged. Now with the firing of the agent,
it just seems really odd, Like I didn't know about
all this until I went back to Atlanta and talk
to some people. It's like, well, you don't have a
phone like where, you know what I mean, just because
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there was a lockout didn't mean that you like couldn't
communicate with anybody. I mean, it's very odd the way
that whole thing played out. And then you see him
crying and screaming for the second time, and I think
there was a lot of shoulders shrugging within the Dodger
organization and on the team. From what I understand, Clayton
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Kershaw made weird kind of cryptic second fiddle comment that
was interesting, and I've never seen anything like it. And
now I have Dodger people starting to send me pictures
of all the guys and the dug out up on
the rail and Freddie Freeman sitting alone like it's weird.
It's a long way away from when everybody was chanting
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Freddy and he was on the second base when the
season started, and he's from here, you know, I mean,
it's not like he's from Kentucky and he needs he
sings my old Kentucky home every night and he needs
to get back like he's from Orange County. So it
is very curious, and it's a I mean, love the
one you're with, right the eagle flies with the dove.
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Love the one you're with. Nobody wants to hear about
your ax, you know, when you dance them too close
to your thick ax. In the South, it started to
make the Dodgers a little bit angry that you don't
think that the Atlanta Braves were a woman. You don't
think she'd be thinking and an abundant woman, I mean,
just a world serious champion and a bundo. Is it
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distasteful to ask you about the latest on Cleveland Browns
and and what they got going on? Obviously, Baker Mayfield comments,
I was going to make a joke out of it,
but I think it's too soon, So I kind of like,
stay're clear of it. Um too soon you? Uh no,
(35:26):
I'm not gonna say it. Um the Baker Mayfield common see,
he doesn't close the door, uh completely. On the scenario
of possibly returning to the team. What what do what's
your take on it? Do you think there's any possibility
that could happen? Yeah? Well, I think we all know
(35:47):
how to love the one we're with, right, I mean,
in the world of football and the world of what
whatever you're doing broadcasting. But but you know what I mean,
I mean, you have to be able, you have to
be able to be a little bit more measured in
these situations. And the social media part of it has
really hurt a lot of these guys. Baker Mayfield should
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should just have kept his mouth shut the whole time,
and he would be in a much better position right now.
But because he had to go say all that stuff
right when all this stuff started, he wasn't an Instagram post,
am I correct and saying that I think it was
snap face. Maybe I don't know. Yeah, he was once
check out a face. And because Jonas doesn't know what
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it is, yeah, you know, I mean, he would look
he would end up looking like he doesn't look super
bad right now, but he would end up looking like
like a guy who was really rising above the fray.
If he had never sent that post, right then he
would be in a much more powerful, less bitch like position.
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And and I would appreciate that. I like, I like
what I mean, you don't sound like a little bit
like we don't want meal and write a whole thing
about it. I mean, that's not professional, that's petro. So
how would Don Martin um thing about it being a
little bit Don Martinis, I'm approachable right now, but there
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is a two week a two week radius, uh that
we need to keep from Dawn because one of the
Colorado teams just won a championship. So if one of
the Colorado team, my man, they are painting the town, yeah,
snow colored for the als he loves. I mean, he
was very upset about how the Tampa Bay guy alleged
there was like we any of us know the rules
(37:37):
in hockey, Like you know how many guys get to
me my mom? They wouldn't have participate in You saw
clearly there was a live change and he was walking
around telling everybody about So Don is very If you
want to talk to Don right now, just be very
excited about the ass and his Rockies have taken two
or three so far from the Dodgers. Who Freddie Freeman's
like him exact with his stick X. Don't you guys,
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don't you guys think of Baker Mayfield never said anything
about this? Did he be in a much better negotiable position. Yes,
which is why it pays you not like as much
as you want to be like one of those outspoken
like I wear my emotions. I wrote the Athletic I
wrote a big thing to the players tribute. It's just
like you just don't say anything and then like maybe
(38:24):
this thing will you'll look out, it will work in
your favor. But even now, like now, how he's you know,
kind of well, you know, we mutually agreed to go
our separate ways and he had ruled out, but he
makes it seem as if like, oh, Cleveland's gotta come
crawling back to me just anyway, um am I am.
I am curious though, And I know we've talked about
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like the Watson stuff and all that, do you I
don't know. Happy Baby was so suggestive whenever they gave
me into the happy Baby post. Now whenever yoga every day,
I'm like, damn, I hope somebody hasn't grabbed my boots.
Well I think that was the point of it, though.
I think they wanted the puzzo grabbed. Yeah, I guess
he would like lean over there, like, hey, a little
(39:07):
a little batting practice with the old We're so tired
of talking about it. Yet, I don't know that there'll
ever be anything that comes close to this ever again
in sports? Is that a fair assessment of what's happened? Well,
I mean, I don't think he's the first gun to
get a massage and then expect to knuckles shuffle, which
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is obviously with seventy different women over representation, right. No, No,
he's he's he's definitely got some kind of issue. I mean,
I don't know, but the fact that we're all just
trying to sit here and process it, like, hey, I
guess he's an eccentric, Like I don't you know the
fact that he's going to be under center playing quarterback
(39:50):
for like five years for Cleveland under center? Huh yeah? Well,
or unless out he's out of the shotgun. I mean,
it really just depends on the If you've ever, guys,
ever seen what a new room massages? No, I think
I think Deshan knows, and you are you it's not
(40:11):
safe for work. I'm sure you're at home. We'll leave
that alone. But I think that's what I think DeShawn
knows about that. I mean, you just think about like
all the exotic forms of massage that he's heard of
and is into I mean, what a weirdo, Right, he's
just a he's a weirdo. Well, that's pretty weird. Have
jail powder for these the new room Yeah, I mean
(40:37):
I think you need like like one of those giant,
like floaty things you would put in the pool to
put like the middle of the bathroom for a new
room massage. It's basically where the other person massages you
with their whole body. Yeah. I think if it doesn't
lead to sex, somebody's got to be impotent. Oh, I'm
(41:01):
just saying. You know, there's all kinds of different massage.
I mean, but hey, you know two d thirty million
dollars guaranteed later and a lot of massage. That's a
lot of new room. Yeah, that's a lot of powder.
On all the fats of Google, all those are slippery, Yes, massage. Petris,
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what's the weird Since you've been doing sports talk radio?
Said you glad you caught it. You brought it up.
One of the one of the things to describe it
was slippery, Petros had you've been doing sports radio, what
what is the essence? This is a weird story that
the Shawan saga. What's one of the weirdest stories that
(41:44):
comes to mind that you go, that's a weird story
that I'll never be covering in radio. The truth is
always stranger than fiction. So like there's we all have Brady,
maybe not because of the Notre Dame thing. And they're
a little bit more like Stanford in a way where
like when you talk to the guys and you and
you exchange stories, sometimes the Stanford guys are like and
(42:08):
you'll be like, well, you know, we had this guy
and he had a baby mom and then he got
caught naked running down the street with it, you know,
like sub like that. And they'll be like, yeah, well,
one night, you know, we drank a twelve or a
mountain dew and uh, Andrew Luck played Tchaikovsky all night
on the piano, you know. Uh. But I mean a
(42:28):
lot of this stuff just from when you were playing
and stuff like that you just took for granted as
an eighteen year old kids as a normal thing. You know,
like sleeping in the locker room next to Charles White.
You know, even though you want to Heisman, it's like,
why is he sleeping on the locker room floor with me?
What where our lives converged in this way. Uh, you know,
just stuff like that. But I mean, we talk about
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guys in plastic countfits running into each other for millions
of dollars a year, like that's our job. So to
not expect things to be quite strange and people to
be really weird and have some really strange things going
on is I think a little bit naive. But what's
the craziest thing I've ever heard of? I don't, I
mean something repeatable, nothing being horrible things. I walked into
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rooms and been like, oh my god, I had to
turn around and walk right back up just from from
you doing radio, like the weird story you can remember.
Oh I don't know. I mean, I remember one time
when I was first starting radio, the Lakers were all
out and like Manhattan Beach or something, and one of
them like took guy's birthday cake and threw it on
his head, like Rony turry off or and it's like,
(43:41):
you know, you get like the sixties, seventy year old
sports writers like, well, gonna throw the cake on his head,
and there's not better any comment from the tree. But
it's it's like, oh my god, you know, I can't
really it's five thirty in the morning. Though out here
I can't really think of anything like I mean, there's
just all the USC stuff. It's just like when the
guy tried to say he was saving his cousin from
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drowning and he was really running from the cops, and
they're like, but he saved him for drowning, and they
were like, yeah, but the but the cousins the house
doesn't have a pool. Who was that again, Josh? But
the thing that makes me sick he just got drafted.
Didn't here recently? He played? Am I thinking I played
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a long time. Now I'm thinking of the other kid. Uh,
never mind, I'm thinking a completely different kid from USC.
But everybody lined up to like defend the kid before
they even learned the story, right that USC tried to say,
Like the USC had like the crossover media there that day,
like good Morning America. Everybody ready to call this kid
a hero until somebody with half a brain was like,
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he's lying the lie and they had to walk it back.
But I guess people's willingness to believe things like if
I was a football player and the captain of that
team with that guy and that happened, I'd be like Okay,
I'd call him up say, Okay, what really happened, you know,
before any of that stuff actually went down. So I
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guess everybody's naivete to a certain degree is what continues
to surprise me. Like I remember walking out of a
meeting with Art Briles with a with a certain football analysts,
and uh, the analyst was like, that's a that's a
great man. I was like, are you kidding me? DoD
We just we just in the same I feel like
I need to take a shower, Like, were we just
in the same meeting? You know, well, you don't understand
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the Big twelve. You don't know what it's like here.
It's like, okay, stuff like that. I guess get him
on Twitter at the old p Petris pop It gets
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