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October 19, 2024 • 112 mins
In this episode Doug talks about Axis Deer vs Elk game meat. Do you have any good problems? What in the world is Doug talking about? You have to listen to the show to find out. Doug give his opinion on the old days. How the newspapers wrote about the outdoors. Why did this stop? What is the best shotgun shell to kill a snake and a turkey. Check out what the callers have to say about this. Why do some gun rangers allow you to bring your gun in the case and others don't? This is a goood discussion. Shoud it be a law? What is the strangest thing/fish you ever caught? Doug answers emails from the audience and gives water fowl tips. Also, when is oyster season plus a whole lot more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Dogpike Show, brought to you by American
Shooting Centers Guns Shooting at Instruction since nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now here's Doug Pike.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hi, Welcome aboard Saturday morning editions. The program starts right now.
Thank you all for joining us. Wherever you are, whatever
you're doing. It's not Sunday, so you're not on your
way to church. It'd be a little late to be
on your way to a bird hunt in the morning.
Most bird hunts start. Oh, once waterfowl season starts, we'll
be out there half an hour before sunrise.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Pardon me, I got something.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I don't know. There's something in the air that's been
bothering me lately, and I don't know what it is.
I can't put my finger on it, but it's something,
and whatever it is, it's driving me crazy. It gets
me a little, doesn't hurt. I'm not sick, have no
signs of sickness. It's just every now and then, it's
a little tickle in there. And I think part of

(00:57):
it has part of it is it originates at home
in the little bucket full of hay. Well, it's a
big plastic tub full of hay that we keep for
our guinea pig, and I have to sit in there
and kind of sift.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Through the regular.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Hey, he's a pretty spoiled little pig, and he gets
just the tops he likes, not all of the hay.
It's not like a horse. He doesn't just grab a
mouthful and chew it up and eat it. He'll he'll
cherry pick the little tops off, the off the stems,
and so to keep peace around the house. Every now

(01:33):
and then I'll sit down and peel off just some
of those to give that pig, because that's what I do.
Seven one three it's kind of weird. Seven one three,
two one two five seven ninety. Email me Doug Pike
at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
I'll be happy to hear from all of you.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
And after the show, I'll be spending at least I
don't know, probably forty minutes of my morning trying to
delete emails and that not any that come from you guys,
but the ones that just show up at random. And
I find myself on just far too many mailing lists.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
I'm going to have to get rid of some of them.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
It was only about a month ago I put a
concerted effort toward reducing emails, and I peeled off two
thousand of them. It took me two days to do it,
but I got rid of two thousand emails and they're
all back now, so I gotta I gotta go in
there and do it again. That's all the time it

(02:37):
takes for me to watch my email inbox just soar
out of control, mostly mostly with stuff that's I can't
say it's all irrelevant, but it's just not of tremendous
interest to me, and by me, I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
For the show for you guys.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
So if it doesn't, if it doesn't really stack up
in my inbox, I'm gonna let it go. There's one
sitting there right now, for example, that will stay there
from Hunters for the Hungry. I'm trying to coordinate an
interview either today or tomorrow. And I didn't get back
to the young to Paula, who sent me the original
email in time. I had some stuff pop up that

(03:23):
I couldn't get away from, and because of that, she
sent me another one yesterday said hey, are we still
on for the weekend? So I've responded I'm hoping to
get them on today. I actually talk about Hunters for
the Hungry it's a fantastic program that enables any of
us who have extra meat, and a lot of ranches
in Texas have to take a lot of doze off

(03:44):
those properties every year to maintain their MLD permits or
to just just to keep up with their own personal
management efforts. And sometimes it's I know guys who have
to take a like dozens of deer off those properties
of theirs and they just can't find enough people to

(04:06):
give up tags for it, so they get involved with
the MLD program where you don't have to use up
a tag, but you do have to register with your
hunting license number, and those deer oftentimes go into that
program that provides for processing of the meat and then
distribution to food banks around the state where there are

(04:29):
always plenty of people who would just love to have
some delicious venison.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
That's what I buy about lunchtime this morning.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
I'm not I don't think, I don't know that I've
ever eaten will Yeah, I have. I've eaten venison tacos
in deer camps in the morning, venison breakfa breakfast tacos.
There's nothing wrong with those, certainly, I haven't had say
what would be good and we have to find a way.
We'd have to find a way to do it first.
We got to get it first. We got to buy
a ranch Melbourne. We need a big ranch. And then

(05:00):
we're gonna need We're gonna need a big staff because
I'm not getting up and cooking.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
I'm not that good a cook.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I don't want to be responsible for breakfast and a
big hunting ranch full of people. So we're gonna have
to hire a chef and we're gonna have to have
a big old kitchen where they can cook comfortably. And
then Melvin, then we can enjoy some delicious either. I
don't know access deer tacos that would be good access deer.

(05:33):
Have you ever had access deer No?

Speaker 4 (05:35):
I haven't.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
If ever given the opportunity, if somebody says, hey, I
tripped over this access deer backstrap a guy sent it
to me the other day, or handing it to me,
I don't think you'd really want it sent to you
through the mails US post Office.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
It might be it might be jerky by the time
it got there.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
But anyway, if you can get your hands on some
of that, just say yes, I'll come get it. Don't
even ask them to bring it to you, so I'll
just come get it. Stay where are you drop a pin,
I'll start driving that. It's very good, delicious I was having.
I had that conversation with Chris McGinley from kirk Combs
the other day. We had lunch down at El Tempo
in the fountains and we were we were debating whether

(06:18):
elk or or access deer was the better of the two,
and I tended to lean toward Elk only because of
a dinner I had two years in a row up
in Deer Valley, a restaurant. I don't remember the name
of the restaurant. It's right at the base of the
mountain at Deer Valley, and it was some of the

(06:41):
most delicious wild game I had ever tasted. And well,
I don't know how wild there elk are, but nonetheless
off just off the charts good. And then I also
remember more than one axis deer slab that was laid
on my plate, and that's right up there with it.

(07:03):
At that point, if you just lay the two meats
outside by side, at that point, it just becomes how
good the chef is and how it's prepared. And I
don't know that there's any way to mess up something
like that. I really don't, I really truly don't. So
we got another nice day kicking off across southeast Texas
and not a drop of rain in the forecast either,

(07:25):
which is becoming a bit of a problem, honestly, up
and down the coast the base systems that could use
a little bit of fresh water, well a lot of
fresh water at this point getting more than enough salt
content after not that long ago, having that we were
all kind of wondering about if we'd ever get salt

(07:45):
water back in the bay systems.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Well, that's we've solved that problem.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
We've overcome that, kind of like the same way I've
overcome my inability as a younger man to not gain
weight or to gain weight. It was forever it took
me to cross that hill, and once I topped it,
I've never looked back. All I gotta do is look
at a cookie, and I put on about two pounds.
It's I'm not kidding you, Melvin Lee. I'm trying to

(08:13):
lose some weight right now. Not a lot, but just some.
And it's hard, man, uh for a kid who when
I was playing baseball over in Mobile, I would eat
in the afternoon at where we were all supposed to eat,
And then there were a couple of us who were
similarly afflicted with just we just burned like a furnace.

(08:36):
And we would go to McDonald's before going to bed
and eat. My order was a quarter pound of with cheese,
a big mac, large fries, large coke, and two apple
pies on top of dinner. And couldn't put on a pound.
Not a problem anymore, now, weren't they. Oh yeah, holy cow,

(08:56):
you could eat. Oh and spice is spicy. Yeah, double down.
Let's go see how hot you can make it. And
we just walk away like nothing happened. Holy cat, that's
something else. I don't know that I could just stick
my nose up to a Tabasco bottle and get away
with it.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Man, oh man, it's different.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
It certainly is different to be a little bit north
of midlife or no way I can live to double
my age now, I don't see that happening. I crossed
that corner too. You're you're a younger man than I.
If you multiplied your age by two, would you consider
that a reasonable goal for longevity?

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yes? Okay, yeah, well yeah, you're younger.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
You're way younger than holy than me, Holy key, I
don't have a I don't have a snowball chance of
living to be one hundred and thirty eight.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
I know that.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Well I'm not quite there in a month, nonetheless, And
you know what, honestly, I don't.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Really have complaints.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I've got some things I would fine tune along the way.
But the run that I got to have when I
was at the paper and editing Tide Magazine and doing
these radio shows all at once, was that wass as
hard as I had worked up until these last few

(10:23):
years when I've changed what I do around here.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
But it was fun work, you know.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I was.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
I was having to maybe.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Try to reschedule my trip to Chesapeake Bay so that
I could get down to Stuart in Florida. And those
are good problems to have, you know, wondering whether I
ought to go snoop fishing in Florida or snowboarding in
Park City. Those were good problems to have, and I

(10:53):
enjoyed every minute of that. I hope you guys enjoyed
reading about some of those exploits. But in mine and
Joe Doggett's and Bob Brister's and Shannon Tomkins we really
did have a pretty good run back then, and it
saddens me asked you that that's all kind of gone

(11:14):
away that I don't know of any major city newspapers
that even have active, full time outdoors departments anymore. There
may be one or two up north. There still is
a lot of emphasis on and maybe in the Midwest.
I would bet those Midwestern papers probably have deer hunting

(11:35):
reports and duck hunting and pheasant hunting, but I'm not
so sure. Even the magazines are having more difficulty now
staying alive, and that it starts at the regional and
state levels. It's very difficult for those verticals to hang
in there, and even the national magazines. I would be

(11:55):
willing to bet if I was to go thumb through
one right now, it'd be a little lighter and little
fewer pages. Pages go out and eight at a time,
And at one point some of the big magazines were
doing like ninety six pages for a while, and now
they're down to sixty four some of them, and even

(12:16):
fewer in a couple more. It's sad because there's definitely
interest in hunting and fishing, you know it, I know it.
On a beautiful summer afternoon right around the bay and
see if you don't bump into a bunch of people.
Everybody wants it. Not everybody, but a lot of people
want to be out there.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Still.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
I think we're returning to the outdoors from being away
from it for quite some time. There was this trend
where being a hunter or a fisherman wasn't cool for
a little while, and I think most people have kind
of sobered up and realized that actually, we need that
outdoors exposure. It does a lot of a lot of

(12:57):
good for all. You're noding your head. Agree with me,
don't you one hundred percent? You need that fresh air.
You need to get out. You need to here the
leaves ruffle, disconnect with all the garbage that goes on
in big cities. Take a hike. Yeah, literally, take a hike.
We're not saying that to be mean either, are well?

Speaker 4 (13:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
No, Yeah, used to say that when you were just
kind of sick and tired of talking to somebody. Right now,
it's it's good advice, exactly. Yeah, thank you for that, Melbourne.
That was well played, actually very well done.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Sir.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
All Right, we're gonna take a little break your rockets
and astros live here.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
We are Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
The conversation continues this as the Doug Fike Show.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
If you know, you know, and if you don't, you're
youngs because everybody in here who is somewhere between Melvins
age and my age knows exactly where that came from.
Do you watch that show?

Speaker 4 (13:57):
I sure did. I love that show.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Out now here's where I'll learn your age in black
and white or in color both. Oh man, okay, okay,
og man.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Doesn't that mean original gangster?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Is that what that is?

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Oh ge okay, I just wasn't sure. May or maybe
just old guy. Hey, that's a new one. Could be
that as well. Yeah, we'll start a we'll start a
trend seven one three two one two five seven ninety.
Email me, Doug Pocket, iHeartMedia dot Com. Let's go talk
to Dave. See what's up. What's going on?

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Dave?

Speaker 7 (14:34):
Oh golly, y'all just gave me the old flashback of
the lifetime man. So when the nanas to come riding
by and we were hanging over the side of the
rail with our black cowboy hats on and white shirts
with the red rose and they were swapping on the hands.
Oh man, what what a thrill?

Speaker 3 (14:51):
You know?

Speaker 5 (14:51):
Hey, hey, and you were talking about yeah, back in
the day, playing football, get out of the football.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
All practice or whatever and getting ten tacos And now
I barely make it through.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Too jacket of box tackers.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah, you gotta be careful eat, no, don't you.

Speaker 7 (15:10):
Hey, you know, but everything's everything's been doing good. We
get this weather has been very beautiful. I've been able
to breathe.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
Right now I'm finishing up here at the parting lot
over here, and then, boyd.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
I gotta go rest up. I got a big day.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
I sent you a couple of pictures on your Facebook page.
My dress.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
I had a dress rehearsal.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
Yeah, it was the last time you heard that, you know,
for tonight for the our forty fifth class reunion, and uh, yeah,
that's gonna be really cool. I'm gonna walk in there.
I'm a guitar strapped on my back, and I'm gonna say, hey, y'all,
I'm guitar day and I probably you know what, and
I probably played for I don't know how many of

(15:56):
those people my classmates are out there for their weddings.
And then twenty eighteen, nineteen twenty years later played for
their kids' weddings and trammon on Grandpa, it's too crazy.
And then we'll be doing a lot of oh and
a lot of them may be listening right now. Yeah,
you know, and then yeah and then uh oh, and

(16:18):
then real quick for American Legion Post five eighty six.
On Sunday, starting at eleven o'clock, they're having a pump
Punkin Festival and all the proceeds from there that is
going to be going for food for people on Thanksgiving
and Christmas.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Pretty good there, man.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
That's so it's going to be a lot of fun.
And uh so we're going to go over there to
the reunion and then we're staying in a hotel over
there and then come back and then we're going to
go to the Pumpkin Festival and then I'll probably play
a couple of tunes over there. And then I got
a head back to Willis. Oh man, did you see

(16:59):
will Boy? They romped Tom read.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
It was I didn't high school.

Speaker 7 (17:06):
Well anyway, the football game. Hey, you know, I love football.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
I know who you do. I know too, man, but
I can't keep up with all It's hard enough to
keep up with professional teams. I can't keep up with
high school teams.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
Mate, And just what Gary Kubiak may be there with
his wife Rondo tonight.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
That'd be kind of guy.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
Yeah, she's yeah.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
She's my cousin, so I mean, and they've been to
anything that we played, you know.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
So anyway, all right, the ranch.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
Let me get out of here.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
I'll see audios. You know, it's funny watching Bonanza for
so many years. They what they were was anything but cowboys.
They're great actors. They were just good actors. They made
you believe that if you had a ranch and they
showed up, they could just hop on a horse and

(17:57):
ride for hours, which is probably not the case. But
that's all right, man. Let me let me grab this
and go talk to Alan here. See what's up Alan?

Speaker 4 (18:06):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Man?

Speaker 5 (18:08):
What's up?

Speaker 7 (18:09):
Doug Moore?

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Than how you doing?

Speaker 4 (18:10):
I'm doing okay?

Speaker 5 (18:11):
You know, I think Dan Blocker is the only one
that didn't have an extra show. You know, the other
three had spin off show when shows that they were
in extra movies. Yeah, yeah, I think Dan Blocker, you know,
he might have been a few other movies, but he
didn't have like a series like the other ones.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Did right.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
But I used to. I used to. I used to
crawl into my living room because my mom was sitting
on the couch she couldn't see, and I was slipping
behind the couch and watching watch Vnanza.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Oh that's cool, man.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
And it was over, and it was over. I could
crawl back to the bedrooms. And she was sitting there
smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee. Did have a clue. I
was behind her watching watching Vananza.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Oh that's funny.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
When I was supposed to be in bed.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
A little later, I remember that. Oh yeah, letting Dodia
so holy cow. I don't remember it being that late.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Wow, it might have been that late.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Might have felt that late as a little kid. What's up, man?

Speaker 5 (19:13):
So what's the hottest shell? Fourteen shell there is? Is
it a turkey load.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
With four to ten?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I don't know I know who to ask, though, I'm
gonna I'll send an email to or a text to
Ada Riggy out there at American shooting Centers and ask them.
And then I might I'll, in fact, I may just
kind of shotgun no pun intended to them and to
uh shooters corner and up to carters too.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
All three.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Somebody's gonna get me an answer pretty quick, and if
they all three answered, I'll give you all three answers.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
I'll be listening. Okay, I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Is that what you want to do? You want to
go turkey hunting with a four ten?

Speaker 5 (19:53):
No, but I'm gonna buy a I'm gonna buy a
pub fourteen because I've always one to one. Yeah, but
if I'm going to have it turn around for snakes
or whatever, I just want to have to I just
want the hottest load in there. I can wait.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
You know, Honestly, for snakes, I'd rather have more small
pellets than a few bigger pellets. You're not gonna get
a whole lot of pellets in a four ten, Okay.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Not not, Yeah, exactly, so I might.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
I might be looking at just like six or seven
and a half. So that's gonna take out a snake.
If it gets hit with four or five of those
things in the head, it's not going anywhere.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
I didn't think about it like that, but that does
make sense.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, you're only shooting something the size of a golf ball,
you know.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Unless I can hit that.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, all right, you gotta gotta hit it before it
up off the ground and starts hissing.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
At you and all that.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
I mean, I'm not willing to killing the snakes out
trying to movement all of the way right. Yeah, like
I'm some mad snake killer. I know I didn't take
If you happened and need to shoot something, I want
to something hot enough to take care of me.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
I don't want to carry around my twelve or twenty games.
It's too heavy.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Amen to that man. All right, Well i'll help you out.
I'll see what's up by way. Yeah, that was something
that's kind of funny.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Really, he didn't need to apologize from just from talking
to him. I knew he wasn't going to be out
there killing ribbon snakes and garter snakes and king snakes
and rat snakes. No. But if I'm if I'm walking
down a trail and I look down and I got
I got venomous snake in front of me, Yeah, then
maybe I don't do that.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Maybe I don't do that.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Something one three two, one two five seven ninety Email
me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. Getting pretty close
to the break we need to take, and you know what,
let's take it a minute early. So I can get
on this text message and find out about the Turkey
loads Turkey Load aka Rattlesnake load in a four ten.
I just don't know, but I know the people to call,

(22:02):
and I'll make a text or I'll do a I'll
travel a phone call and I'll see what I come
up with. We'll take a little break here, we'll be
right back. The Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
We are Sportstock seven nineties, Houston Sports. Where you go
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Speaker 3 (22:22):
Center thirty four on Sports Talk seven ninety The Doug
Pike Show. Thank you for listening. I certainly do appreciate it.
There's one of the at least one or two more
of these things we got to look up before the
end of the show, Melvin, and I'll tell you about
them in a minute.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Hang on one second, Okay, I'm back.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Let me go get rick Byce up here.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Let's see what's going on with him.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
What's up, Ricky? Bye?

Speaker 5 (22:42):
Well, I'm still on the injured reserve list, but I'm
here at the Bailville meat Market.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Okay, you're just gonna hobble in there. You got a
heel is it a heel issue, is that right?

Speaker 5 (22:53):
No, right in the middle of the well, it's behind
the toe. But all right, that's fine. No, I'll sink
you picture that Hollway shot doning that I was an observer,
couldn't really make the wall. But I think this first

(23:13):
time they were called knocktop hunting and fishing. But y'all
started it. You in Major Melvin started it. Bonanza came
on on. Here's trivia question. What night did it come on?
And what show came on right after?

Speaker 3 (23:28):
I can't remember either one of those things. I'm guessing
Friday night because that was the big Monday night, Sunday night. Okay, yeah,
you're right.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
And right behind it was The Wonderful World of Disney
with Walt Disney.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Oh that's right. I remember that, The Wonderful World of Disney.
I do remember that was Disney.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Now did you look down up or did you know it?

Speaker 5 (23:59):
No? I knew I knew it. I knew it. I'm
not saying I'm gonna know it. I just I'm just
always remember that. I just remember, like that guy was
talking about on the couch, you know, I just remember
that was my mom and dad wasn't going to miss
either one of them. That's funny, man, all of us
wanted to watch them, whether I wanted to watch them
or not. Of course I liked them, but it didn't

(24:20):
matter Saturday, and that's what I hated it, because all
I had played was porda wagoner and all that stuff.
But one comment on that, gentleman, I'm I can help
him a little bit if i'll try. I'm not an
expert nothing. But the guy that called in on the
fourteen turkey.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Hunt, right well, he didn't want it for turkey hunt.
He wants it for snakes. He doesn't want it for turkeys.
We established that he was just using that as kind
of an idea. He was hoping for bigger pellets. But
I suggested smaller pellets and more of them.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
So yeah, okay, well I may have missed that part.
I carried a fourteen with me. It goes everywhere I go,
and I mean it's right here beside me right now. Sure,
but I shot it a billion times six is seven
seven and a half eight. You know for a snake,

(25:15):
you know that will work.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Yeah, that's what we're talking about.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Yeah, okay, well I miss something. I was gonna make
a suggestion on the team's gonna make challenge a real
challenge in turkey hunting with a fourth ten. I was
gonna give him a couple of kIPS, okay for it anyways, what.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
I said, go for it.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
There's got to be somebody who wants a challenge on
a turkey hunt. As if turkey hunting were not challenging.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
Well for hunting turkey with the fourth in is a challenge,
no doubt, or would be a challenge. I never would
do it, okay, But the thing you got to do,
like you said, you ever really got to hit a
golf ball? Yeah, and you're gonna have to really get
close and personal turkey with the fourth ten. But if
you're going I want to do it, you need to
set up some kind of target about forty yards thirty

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twenty ten And but you're gonna have to pull them
in really close and see where that pattern is and
can you whit that golf ball? You know that that's
a bit wise, you're gonna run a really the consequences
you don't really figure out that pattern. At different distances,
you're gonna instead of kill that turkey, you're gonna have

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a greater chance of wounding the turkey.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yeah, that's a that's a very good point.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
There's so many people who when they're practicing their shotgunning,
they go to the range they pull clay targets all
day and that's all they do. And there is so
much to be learned from getting yourself a big old
roll of butcher paper about at least three feet wide,
and taking it out there and putting two steaks in

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the ground about four feet apart, and just put that
paper target up there, draw a dot in the middle
of whatever you want to do, about a thirty inch circle,
and then just see where your different choke tubes push
those pellets.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
At ten well not ten yards, but maybe.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Say twenty thirty forty yards, and see if you're still
getting a pattern that is consistent and full and would
actually take down a bird anywhere in it.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
You start buying cheap loads.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
You know this as well as I do, Rick, but
I'm gonna say it anyway. You start buying cheap shells,
and you get this softer shot that malforms on the
way down the barrel, and all of a sudden you
look at a thirty yard pattern out of a say,
just an improved cylinder choke and man, you got holes
the size of a bowling ball in it. Sometimes the

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birds are gonna get through there.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
Well, it's a high brass high and low brass decision
for me on what I'm hunting. But even if I'm
like I'm a big, big time grow hunter.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I know that.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
Forty decoys in the back of my truck. I just
can't go walk up through and do it right now.
I'm just sitting here calling them. Okay, I'm staying tuned up. Yeah,
but you know you got to figure out, you know,
on the distance, you know, real real quick. Oh no, no, yeah,
and that pattern.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Audios man by Rick oh Rick, the the Mighty crow
Hunter is added again that crows don't stand a chance
out there with him. God, I wonder, I wonder what
would be better to lower crows in close a half
a dozen decoys or fifty pounds of corn? I don't

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better if you would drop a sack of corn in
the road where he is, he'd gets some crows in
there pretty quick. Seven one three, two one two five
seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. I've
got an email from ed Riggy out there at at
American shooting centers, and he agreed with me that the
more pellets you've got, the better. And he actually has

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a four to ten he uses for the same purpose,
and he loads, he shoots when he needs to. Number
nine shot much smaller than even I was thinking about
more pellets. You got to go back to the size
of your target. You're basically trying to shoot something the
size of a mouse, and you don't need number four's

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or number six is even, or number seven and a
half's even. You just want a bunch of pellets so
that there's nowhere that that little snake's head can be
that doesn't get rained down on with death and destruction.
The venomous snake close to your dog, close to your kids,
close to you, I'll give you a pass on taking

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it out. Most snakes aren't venomous. And I would encourage
all of us around here to learn that.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Because a can you grab that, Melvin.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I'll encourage everybody to learn that, because we've got to
be able to id so we don't get scared when
we see a king snake or a a chicken snake
or whatever. There's so many really cool, really beautiful snakes
out there that aren't that. They're not venomous, so leave

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them alone. And if you got to pull out your
four to ten full of number nine on a cotton
mouth or they're pretty aggressive, maybe a rattlesnake that just
doesn't want to back up and warn you instead wants
to bother you. I don't have a problem with that.
Real quick, I'm gonna go, and I hope I don't
get in trouble with Melvin David. What's up, man?

Speaker 8 (30:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (30:38):
Real quickly?

Speaker 9 (30:39):
My ears perked up when you mentioned doing a podcast
with Billy Carter. I mentioned earlier doing a segment or
something on shooting range etiquette. Wow, you men, you see
all kinds of people out there, but one question, particularly
Doug and I'm hanging up because you know, you've got
to take a break.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (30:57):
Why is it that when you go to some ranges
and I shoot almost exclusively at Carter's, they want you
to have your take your gun into the store with
uncased with the bolt open, which I kind of tend
to agree with. But I went to another range once
and walked in there with my gun, you know, exposed.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
They're all over.

Speaker 9 (31:23):
Me, you know, like, no, only you only bring your
gun in here in a case. Yeah, so I never
understood why, but I would love to hear Billy's comments.
Like I said, I'm etiquette and also why some ranges
want you to have it case and others say uncase.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
You know, okay, thanks you. I appreciate that. Thank you,
David very quickly. You don't want to tell you what.
I'll get to that when we get back, because I
don't want to. I don't want to rush an answer
and maybe forget something. But there's reasons for that, and
I think I can help explain a little bit when
we get back.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
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Speaker 2 (32:03):
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Speaker 6 (32:04):
The conversation continues this as the Doug Pipe Show.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
All right, welcome back seven forty nine, well actually almost
seven fifty and bam there it is seven fifty on
Sports Talk seven nine. His first hour is moving along
pretty good. That's I dream of Jeanie, is that right?
Bewitch bewitched? Same thing, same thing I mean when push
comes to shove superpowers good looking star, Yeah, same thing. Yeah,

(32:37):
now that you mentioned it, that's right. I dream a Jeanie.
That was no, I never mind it doesn't matter. I've
got another Western themed when I just asked Melbourne to
come up or come to bring up. So let's get
back to where what was golly, what was the dog
on question that David? Yes, thank you, Melvin. I'm sorry

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I had to go do I had to go multitask
during the break and it just slipped away from me,
and I apologize. David.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
It's not that your question wasn't important. It's just that
my mind it's full right now.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
So every range has the option to write its own rules,
and that's understandable. And I think if you sat back,
you could probably make a.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Case for both.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
If a gun is in the case when it's being
transported through the store, in theory, it couldn't fire because
the trigger would be so hard to get to. It
should be hard to get to anyway, we would you
and I would probably assume that the gun was empty
and in the case. But as Billy and I talked

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about when we did when we did a range etiquette
piece podcast, they have on almost on a regular basis.
I hate I don't know how common it is, but
when I talked about it with him, he said, yeah,
it's pretty common for somebody to come in and say, yeah,

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you know, last time I had this gun out, I
was cleaning it and I broke it all down and
put it all away. And then they get the gun
out of the case or they've brought it in uncased, whatever,
and when the action is opened or the bolt is
opened or whatever, the round comes flying out. They have

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a jar at the Treshwek store, I believe, is what
Billy was telling me, and they may have one at
all three stores. I don't know of live rounds that
came popping out of unloaded guns when customers brought them in,
and that's frightening that it would happen so often that

(34:54):
you could I'd be scared if you could even fill
a pickle.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Jar full of those.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
But apparently it's a pretty significant size container that's holding
all of those live rounds that came out of so
called empty guns that customers brought in. So in the
case shouldn't be able to be fired or hurt anybody
open with the bolt open or with the action open,

(35:22):
or some way to see to physically see that the
gun is not not loaded. That seems every bit at
least is good and maybe a little bit better to me.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Because there's there's visible evidence.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
And the reason I say that is because it goes
back to the issue that happened out on the prairie
years ago when a man was dropping his unloaded shotgun
into his case after a hunt muddy ground, put the toe,
put the barrel into the case on his the toe

(35:58):
of his boot so that it wouldn't get muddy, and
when he dropped his shotgun in there, it went off.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Not good. The man lost a toe.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
It wasn't in my spread, thank goodness, but wherever he was,
he lost a big toe that day, and that wasn't good.
And so even in a case if that man had
managed to case that gun without it going off, and
then taking it to a gun store because he needed

(36:28):
a little work done on it, and then right after
the hunt let them clean it too, what the heck
he would have walked in there would have loaded gun,
not thinking it was loaded, but certainly loaded. So yeah,
I prefer one way over the other. I prefer visibly unloaded.

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But you also have to abide by the rules of
wherever you're going. Best way to worry and not worry
about it is not to carry your gun in without
going in first and if you get make two trips,
you make two trips, say just poke your head in
the door and just say, do you prefer that I
bring in a gun loaded? Well, no, let's don't do
that wrong word. Do you prefer that I bring in

(37:12):
a gun cased or uncased? And if it's uncased, how
would you like the action? And they're gonna say either
uncased with the bolt open, or they're gonna say cased
so that we know you nobody could pull the trigger.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
And then just go with that. This solves a lot
of problems.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Be curious, Jay and Ed and Billy, if any three
of you three are listening, by all means, please weigh
in on that. I did get heard back from JTK
from down there Shooter's corner too. He said he's got
all kinds of loads for four tens, everything from buckshot
to seven and a half and eighths and even nine,

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and he, like me, prefers either eight or ninees because
you got a whole lot more little pellets raining down
on that snake's head. And in a time like that,
this kind of goes back to that if if you've
got a cottonmouth bearing down on you, that's just really
aggressive and just looks intent on on biting you, but

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he's not real close to you. You don't want five
big pellets running out of there and possibly leaving a
cotton mouth head sized hole in the pattern.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
I want it.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
I want it raining little tiny bebes. Just send them
on down range and take care of that snake. Seven
one three two seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia
dot com. They gotta release Thursday, and this is just information.
I don't want to I don't want to deep dive
into this, but I gotta release Thursday to let me
know that oyster season opens along the coast on November one.

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I'm far more interested in duck and deer and goose seasons,
and far more interested also in the flounder closure, which
goes November one to December fourteen. We've got a bide
by that the deer season openers. That's probably the biggest

(39:11):
I think of all of them. Tough season is a
cool thing, but deer season probably takes more kids out
of school on Friday than any of the others. It's
gonna be a pretty nice season too.

Speaker 8 (39:22):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
The oyster season, by the way, runs all the way
through April thirtieth, and that's the good news. The bad
news is that only about ten of the state's twenty
eight shellfish harvest areas are going to be open. They're
just not enough market sized oysters. And a lot of
the problem, A lot of the blame for that is

(39:44):
being dropped on Hurricane Barrel and Tropical Storm Alberto, which rolled.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
Through here earlier in the years.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
A lot of fresh water, this, that, and the other.
I can't help though, but think that there's some some
people related. We got so much development along the coast,
We have so many more chemicals pouring into the water
along the coast, and oysters are the filters, that's that's.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
What we need to filter all that water.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
But even oysters can't filter all of the stuff that
we're dropping in there, all the silt that's in these
bays right now. It's just a big, fat mess. And
I think it at least some of the blame needs
to fall on people. There are a lot more people
along the coast than there were even thirty years ago.
Even then, that's not that long ago, and I can't

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imagine what the based system. How beautiful it must have
been long enough ago that the bay where NASA is
now was named Clear Lake. It wasn't named that way
for the water conditions it has now. It was named
that way because it was full of seagrass. It was
full of oysters, it was full of everything, and full

(40:58):
of fish. All right, we gotta te a little break
here at the top. I'm just diving off into the
weeds here. The seagrass is no pun intended. Ra after
me services pressing my buddy Preston.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
He has been.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
This is the Doug Pike Show, brought to you by
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Speaker 2 (41:22):
Now here's Doug Pike.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
All right, welcome back. Second out of the program starts
right now.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Loaded or unloaded? Now, I'm not talking about.

Speaker 10 (41:33):
That.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Never mind the potato the what potato potatoes?

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Loaded?

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Oh now you're talking. Yeah, you lost me there for
a second. You know, honestly, I've had to stop buying
these big baked potatoes they sell in the deli up here.
They're delicious, There's no question about it, especially when they
laid along about a i don't know about a cup
and a half of barbecue on top of all the
other stuff. But I just can't eat that much anymore.

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We talked about that at the very opening of the program,
how hard it was as younger men to gain weight,
and how we.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Fixed that problem.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
We did indeed, So anyway back to man, I just
fell out of my head again. What was I talking about, Melvin?
Thank you, my God? I got to thinking about the
potato and I couldn't get back to the gun store.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Don't feel bad, I know.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
And the reason I bring it up is because Mojo
sent me an email during the break. Mojo worked as
a baggage handler up in Denver for many, many years,
and as you can imagine, all kinds of things come
rolling down toward the airplanes to get piled up in
there and then ferried off to get lost wherever they

(42:49):
get lost. And one time, this is a sad story,
and it's kind of sad ending, So don't wait around
for the happy ending. Once I tell you what happened.
Some guy left a load handgun in his duffel bag.
The bag fell off, the ramp hit the ground, and

(43:11):
the gun went off and it killed a baggage handler.
Absolutely no excuse whatsoever. And so now the baggage handler's
family is forever changed. The idiot who did that, life
is forever changed. And it just it trickles, It just spreads,

(43:33):
It just spreads like a wildfire something like that. Some avoidable,
easily avoidable mistake, monumental mistake, life taking mistake is so
easy to not have happen if you're just paying attention
and very careful with your firearms. Those are the kinds

(43:56):
of cases that end up making headline, especially nowadays when
so many people are so against firearms ownership because they've
never been threatened by anybody else, They've never had a
situation that made them feel so uneasy that they wish

(44:17):
they did.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Have a gun. And I don't.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
I have no interest whatsoever in taking guns out of
the hands of law abiding citizens. But the way things
are headed, unless there's some change coming the way things
are headed, they're going to change the laws so that
you and I might have to give up guns for

(44:46):
a number of reasons. And if that reason's not on
the books yet, they'll come up with it and they'll
put it there. The red flag laws scare me a lot,
because now somebody can just accuse you of something and
that sets off just this snowball rolling downhill of potential

(45:06):
misuse of somebody, maybe even just saying something out of
spite or just because they don't like you, and that's
that's a scary thing. It's a very scary thing to
take away the ability of someone to defend themselves if necessary,
just because somebody's got a beef with you seven one

(45:28):
three two two five seven ninety Email me Dougpike at
iHeartMedia dot com. Overall, I think the hunting season thus
far is doing pretty well. We've got had a pretty
good dove season. There were record numbers of doves in
the state of Texas. I bet some of them high
tailed into hiding. I don't think they've left the state,
but they're darn sure not where. If they made it

(45:50):
through the first few days, they put some distance between
those fields and themselves. I think that would be a
very smart thing for a dove to do under those conditions.
I doubt that there are going to be enough snow
geese here on opening day to make a to give
anybody a really good shot at loading them up, and
certainly throughout the season there won't be enough of them

(46:12):
here to even come close to mimicking what was going
on back in the late nineties and or in the
late eighties through the nineties and into the two thousands,
early two thousands, that was something I don't think we'll
ever see again. Farming has changed too much. Too much

(46:32):
of the prairie has turned into backyards and swing sets,
places that aren't really conducive to water fowl hunting. But
it can be good, just as I and my friends
found out last year in Okampa with waterfowl specialties, when
when we got to go down there and take a

(46:53):
swing at those snow geese, there were enough there that
it was for someone who doesn't know what it used
to be, the experience there last year would be enough
to make you pretty happy and it feel like you
had good shots at snow geese, get your specklebellies, maybe
a Canada or two during crane season, some of them.

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The pintails down there in El Campo absolutely worked that
ragspread we had out and there wasn't really any open
water where we were. This was just a well, I
can't call it a dry field. It wasn't that, but
it wasn't a flat either. It wasn't a flooded rice field.
And those pintails buzzed us well. Of course it was

(47:38):
during this during the break in the duck season. Of
course they would buzz us close. But it was It
was good and hopefully Mitchell and his crew down there
will have that opportunity for a lot of people this
year too. If you need contact information for somebody who
can boy if any he's got the tools and the

(48:01):
time and the and the land to put it on.
If you want to go down there and hunt a
big ragspird for geese, they can do it for you
down there. Just email me or text me or whatever
however you can get in touch with me and I'll
give you his number seven one three two one two
five seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com.
So the snow geese deal too, by the way, is

(48:22):
some of the best hunts I ever had were during
that stretch. And when people would call from out of
state and ask when to come down, it was between
November or between Thanksgiving and Christmas. That's when we had
lots of birds down here by then. But we also
had enough, and we also had enough young birds that

(48:46):
still hadn't quite figured out the program. They were still
pretty gullible. The old geese. The average snow goose, even
in the population now, even though things have changed about
where they go and what they do, average snow geese
goose still seven or eight years old. That means they're
really smart. And unless you've got fog, unless you've got

(49:06):
a good sun angle, unless you've got a million dollars
spread out of nothing but mounted geese, and you're in
a hole up to your neck and shooting out of it,
and they'll make you out. The old geese are smart
as whips. They really are. I've talked about it before,
but I watched I watched mature snow geese in flights
really really high. There'd be a bunch of birds coming

(49:27):
over high and there'd be two, three, four young geese
drop out, the little gray ones say, oh, you can
spot them a mile away on a nice clear day.
And the young ones would drop out, and they'd start
coming down toward the spread, and three or four older
geese would drop out behind them, and my hunters who
weren't really supposed to be looking. But you can't keep

(49:50):
people from looking at wildlife. It's just it's in us.
It's in their DNA. And I didn't get on them
too bad about it. But they would look up and say,
oh good, there's three old ones coming down with those
young ones. And I just say, no, they're not. This
is the end of that. Watch what happens next. And
the old one would just tuck their heads and drop
down below the young ones and then get back up

(50:12):
with them and then just lift them right back up
into the flight. No, no, no, don't go down there.
No no, no, do not go down there. And I
watched it one hundred times. If I watched it once,
there's no doubt in my mind that's what those birds
were doing. Pretty amazing. Ashley seven one three two five
seven ninety. Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. I've

(50:32):
got a question I want to ask everybody when we
get back, and I'm kind of curious to see what
your answers are. And there is no right or wrong answer,
by the way, there's really not. There's really not.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
On the way out of.

Speaker 6 (50:46):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety online at sports seven
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Speaker 2 (50:51):
Now there's more, Doug Pike.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
All right, most of you who knew the Bananza thing
probably know this one as well. And I guarantee if
my old buddy, Joe Dogget is listening.

Speaker 8 (51:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
He certainly knows that one, because I would say shortly
after he retired. Seven of ten times, if I called
him between about say ten in the morning and noon,
let's say what you doing, Joe, he'd say watching Gun Smoke.

(51:28):
That I think that was he was just fascinated for
some reason by that show. And I'm not fooling seven
out of ten times that I would call him somewhere
in the late morning early afternoon. I think he may
have found the Gun Smoking Network or something. I don't know,
but he was always watching Gun Smoke seven one three
two one two five seven ninety. Email me Doug Pike

(51:50):
at iHeartMedia dot com. The question I want to ask you, guys,
and I was thinking about this this morning on my
way in. We talk about going out door and going fishing,
going hunting, going hiking, bird watching.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
I don't care what it is.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
If there's something that you really enjoyed doing in the outdoors,
and you're willing to invest the time and effort and
investment in equipment that it takes to do whatever it
is you like to do, what's your return on your investment?
What's your ROI What do you get out of that?

(52:28):
What about you, Melvin, what do you get out of
going outdoors? Independence? Freedom? Independence? I hadn't even thought about that.
Being on my own helps me think clarity. Have you
ever have you ever walked so far? Have you ever
on purpose walk so far into the woods that you
had to really think about being able to get back out,

(52:51):
either before dark or whatever. Oh yeah, yeah, that's the
crazy feeling. And the younger you are, the more you
inclined to do that too. I think, get out of here,
don't worry. Yeah, you know, we'll get back. I've had
Have you ever felt like you were truly lost for
a brief moment and then I kind of like backtrack

(53:12):
and figure out where I am? Just yeah, I've had
that happen to me, probably in a couple of places
that were just on ranches in Texas, where I knew
that if I could just get to a fence, I
would kind of recognize and walk that fence a little while.
I might even be walking the wrong way down the fence,
but at least I would get to a crossing somewhere

(53:35):
that would kind of tell me where I was. There
was once up in Utah where I was on a
ranch that was it was owned by the man my
father worked for a long time ago in the oil business.
And this ranch was something like one hundred and twenty
five thousand acres. Okay, it took like two hours just

(53:55):
on the ranch road to get to the ranch house
when you got on this place. And I got out there,
and I was feeling pretty comfortable and confident about where
I was. I could see a lot of things that
made sense. And then it started the snow, and the
clouds come down, and the snow's coming down, and the

(54:16):
ground starts to look the same no matter where you look,
because it's got a little just this little patina of
snow on it that covers up anything that looks like
a trail. And I was a little bit nervous for
a while, and I just had to really think and regroup.

(54:36):
I actually went to a little bit higher ground so
I could kind of overlook this valley, and I don't
even remember what it was I saw, but I saw
something that I recognized that I knew if I could
just get to that, I would be able to find
my way out. And whatever I managed to get there,
I don't even remember how, but I managed to get

(54:57):
there and get out of there, but it wouldn't have
been probably had three hours of daylight left, so I
had a little there was a little comfort level in there.
And it's not like I hiked half a day to
get back where I was. I'd been dropped off and
I had probably gone on my own for maybe an hour,

(55:18):
maybe an hour, trying to get up to where somebody
said they'd seen some elk the day before. And anyway,
I didn't shoot anything, and I made it out. So
here I am all the way back down at sea level.
I'm much more comfortable. At sea level. You can just
climb a tree and see your house. I was laughing

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at with Billy Brown out there at Big Easy on
the Covey, that amazing golf course he's built out there.
I'm going to get to play another amazing golf course
out that way too, in just a week and two
days from now, and I'm so excited. I'll tell you
all more about that once I get that knocked out.
But we were sitting up in what he calls the
eagles Nest out there, this beautiful new amenity at Big

(56:04):
Easy Ranch, and I just kind of laughed with him.
I said Man, if this thing was any higher, I
could probably stand on my tiptoes out there on the
patio and see my house from up here. What a
gorgeous view that is. And it's not full on hill country.
It's kind of on the edge of the hill country,
which Columbus is, but it's still just these beautiful little
rolling hills. And I think I told him one of

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the cool things about being up there on days when
you've got a thunderstorm coming or something, you'll be able
to see it from coming from twenty thirty miles and
that'll be kind of interesting in a different perspective altogether.
And I suspect that there will be more than a
couple of people who will stop their carts there after
playing number nine and wind up sitting around and eating

(56:49):
a sandwich or something better for an hour and a
half or two hours before they go finish up the
big putting green under there too.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Someone three two one two five ninety Email me Dougpike
at iHeartMedia dot com. The question I want to ask you, guys,
I just did. I asked Melvin, what do you get
from the outdoors? What is it I've got to go?
You know what I've got to do. I've got to
go check email. I've been neglectful this morning. And if
you've sent me an email already this morning and haven't

(57:18):
heard back from me, I apologize. But I got kind
of tied up with all the other stuff. Where's that?
What is that? That's not that? There we go.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
That's that.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
I don't want it. I want it from when it
was received, and that may or may not be it.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
I'll have to double check this.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Tell you what.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Okay, No, I'll bite that.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
I had a question yesterday, by the way, one of
the guys I played golf with at at black Hawk
Mark asked me about taking a five year old fishing. Now,
we covered this subject almost we covered it heavily this
past week. Okay, I know that I'm aware of that,
but I want to go back to it for just
a minute, because there's got to be somebody at least

(58:03):
in this audience and who has been wondering how to
get a kid fishing and missed it last week. The
short story is ten minutes per year of age. He's
got a five year old he wants to take out there,
and that's the attention span. So with a five year old.
I would recommend fishing for about twenty minutes, then asking

(58:25):
if you want to keep fishing, or you want to
toss a baseball or a football or kick a soccer ball.
If you brought a friend, you two can go do that,
and I'll keep an eye on the lines all these
little things so you don't ever get them to the
end of their attention span where they're going to lose interest.
That's the last thing you want where you're going to
lose interest. I'm gonna get into some of these emails

(58:52):
here too. I've got a couple of minutes I want
to do this. Billy wade in and says I carry
ninety nine point nine percent of the time, always had
land to shoot on. So I've not been to but
a couple of ranges that city folks use well. Country
folks use ranges well. No, I guess maybe not. They
just walk out in the backyard. His question is with

(59:13):
the concealed carry part. It says you're going into a
gun store or range, assuming no signs are posted, reading
that I can't carry. If I go in with my
carry weapon concealed, maybe I look at some AMMO and
guns and then see there's a range out back, so
I decide to use the range with my conceal.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
What's the procedure with this?

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Being that I'm more than likely am not carrying a
case and it's loaded with a round chambered, I'm assuming.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
My standard answer to anybody who's got that question when
they're gonna walk into a store carrying a weapon, I would,
especially when everybody in the store is also carrying I
would absolutely positively find the first employee I can find
and say, Hey, I've got my carry weapon with me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
What are your procedures on that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
And I think that that's the first thing you ought
to tell everybody, because I don't know that they would
be equally comfortable if you leaned over to look at
something in a in a case and it exposed your
weapon and nobody really knew you were carrying it. I
wouldn't mind at all, especially walking into a gun store,
just say hey, I've got my carry weapon. Is there

(01:00:29):
a problem with that? And then just move on and
would do whatever they tell you to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Do with it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
That's as easy as it can be Some one three
two one two five seven ninety Kevin writes, we've discussed
this before, but I'd be curious as to the strangest
thing you've shot or caught in the most likely place.
I've mentioned it before, but I will have to defer
at this point to my son's catch from Buffalo Bio

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about two miles west of Loop six ' ten off
Memorial somewhere up in there, and that was about a
twenty twenty two inch redfish. How that fish got that
far upstream? I'm really not sure. Redfish don't have a
problem living in fresh water. But man, you talk about

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taking a wrong turn somewhere. That's like just waking up
in a strange house in clothes that you didn't have
on when you left the night before. That's kind of crazy.
Melvin's laughing and nodding. Hey, Melvin, what's up with that?
I just made that up.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
I kind of like it. I'm gonna use that again.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Side too. You don't know where you are. You don't
know where he got the clothes you're wearing. Holy cow. Uh,
let me see back the boy I got I got
a Steve ways in. Let's see that just got back
from jewelers in Comstock. Oh, I don't know what he's

(01:02:01):
said that this voice to text got that one got
my two feeders with the lids on with very strong
spring loaded hooks, both pushed off. Wow, And it's just
so happened that these are sim cards that didn't work
on my game cameras. Thinking black bear. Maybe you know
you're out around Comstock. Absolutely it could have been a
black bear. So yeah, I'm going with that Mark all

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the way over from Georgia. What's he looking for here? Oh,
I've got to go to this. I gotta go to
the break right after this. Uh yeah, Mark says over
in Georgia, he asked that very question when he walked
into a shooting center.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
They wanted it open. They want to see the gun.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
They want to see that the action is open, that
the bolt is open. Uh. He puts down the two
reasons here, they said. It allows the shop to know
what kind of weapon you're bringing in. Some of them
are not allowed because of the caliber. That's a good point.
And it also lets the guys behind the counter know,
at least initially your level as a shooter to how

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you handle a weapon walking up to the counter. That's
a very good point. See what's his name, Walls, what's
his first name? Oh, gosh, what's his name Melvin VP
candidate Kamala's running mate first name. I can't either. His

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last name's Walls though. Yeah, and if you've seen the
pheasant hunting video from him, he doesn't look terribly comfortable
with his firearms.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
We gotta take a break.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
So that's not really the guy I want telling me
whether I can or cannot carry a gun. Now, don't
even get me started on any more of that. Stop it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:43):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Hey, thirty six Sports Talk seven ninety Would it be
again appropriate if I got up and ran around this
console about thirty times? I'm all fired up now, Holy cow,
No it witn't, because that's how I felt every time
this show came on. Man oh man, oh man, Yeah,
I love that. Holy cow. I loved it, absolutely loved it.

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Someone three two one two five seven ninety email me,
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Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
Strangest thing you ever shot or caught.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Everybody couldn't help himself, he wighed in, and this may
I don't know. I just he's got a shop somewhere,
I guess it's a shop out back, probably like a
workshop in a barn. Maybe I don't know. He caught
beaver in the back shop bathroom, And why that, I

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don't know. Maybe he had some two by fours laying around.
Maybe Beaver's trying to build a damn and chopped down
all the trees already and went sniffing out lumber. Biaber
get a hold of my garage. He'd find some things
to build with. I'm sure someone three two one two.
I already told you that I do. Go back to
my stranges. I tip a cap to my son's redfish

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sixty miles inland. That's got to be worth something. But
many years ago, and forgive me if you've already heard
this story, I was wadefishing the surf, throwing a spoon
and just throwing that spoon and not catching anything, and
throwing that spoon and not catching anything, and watching people
around me catching a few trout. It wasn't like it

(01:05:27):
was loaded up, but they were catching them on live shrimp.
And I was a little frustrated, and so I decided
it was time to go and either go home or
go somewhere else. And I made one more cast as
far as I could sling it, and then left the
spool open and walked all the way back to the beach,
almost dumped the reel, and I started reeling just one

(01:05:51):
hail Mary pass goal post to goal post, seeing if
I could catch a fish, and the line suddenly came tight.
Holy cow, what is this? But it just it wasn't fighting.
It just it was it wasn't fighting, and I couldn't
figure out what on earth I had hooked. And it
got closer and closer I was. I was making headway

(01:06:14):
and getting it in through the little bitty waves that
were rolling over the second bar and then over that
little first bar even and when it finally came to
the surface, I had snagged with one hook of the
treble hook on my spoon a stringer, a nylon stringer
that was attached to a bait bucket with live shrimp

(01:06:37):
in it. And I couldn't get that treble hook off
the split ring on that spoon fast enough and walked
back out there. I wasn't able to cast just with
a shrimp and a and a treble hook very far
out in front of myself, but apparently it was far
enough and I ended up catching I don't know, three

(01:06:59):
four speckl trees out out there before the bucket was emptied,
and I didn't see anybody walking up and down the
beach looking for their bait bucket, So who knows where
it had originated, But it came off of somebody's belt
that morning and had found its way to me, and
that was that was probably one of the more unusual catches.

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I can't think of anything. Well, there was a brant
goose once that I and several guides just out hunting
together one morning, no clients with us, but a brant
goose out of nowhere, had no business being on the
Katy Prairie, was flying around with a bunch of little
cackler candidates and every one of us immediately spotted it,

(01:07:40):
and it didn't stand a chance of getting out of there.
And that was the only brant goose that I know
ever has been shot on the Kady Prairie. And that's
exactly what it was. Though it stood out amongst the candidates,
it clearly did. Melbourne, have you ever caught anything unusual
while you were fishing? And don't say turtle, all caught
turtles other than turtles. Oh, he's working on something he's

(01:08:07):
feverishly working over there. Did you hear me? I'm working
on something? Oh no, I was very quickly. What is
the most on you other than a turtle? Don't say
a turtle, because we've all caught turtles. Anything that you've
caught while you were fishing, that is very unusual.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
A stingray.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Ah, you know, that's not so much unusual as unwanted.
Even that's the last thing you want to have to
wrestle with when you get it up in there and
you're trying to get back your ten cent hook from
that stingray and end up taking a barb in the
in the wrist or the leg.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
I remember catching a stingray. You haven't ever been stabbed
by one? As No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
There are really not good ways to handle stingrays because
they can turn their bodies.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Far more, far more flexibly. They're like little gymnasts.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Just think of that, right, I remember my grandfather had
to cut the line. Yeah, that's a good idea. Cut
it as far up as you want to we can go.
It's a lot cheaper to buy hooks and swivels and
weights than it is to go to the er. Right,
that just sum it up right there, cut it wherever
you need to cut it, so you don't have to
touch that thing, and don't think that you can do

(01:09:24):
it even There's a video that I saw probably two
three months ago now of some idiot walking around in
a marsh somewhere and there's a stingray right in front
of him. And he's I mean, he's barefoot, he's just
he's a country kid somewhere, but not this country, but
he's country country through and through. And he's walking around
there and he sees this thing and he puts a

(01:09:46):
foot on it, and it does exactly what it's DNA
told it to do. Oh my gons smacks him right
in the shin bone and yeah, and you can pretty
much tell. But he wishes he hadn't done that. He
wished all the heck he hadn't done that. All right,
we'll take a little break.

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
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Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
That contact back to the Doug Fight show.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
That was the one I thought was the other one,
the other superpowered lead female character from back. You know,
those shows were before their time because those women ran
those households, no doubt about it I dream of. Well,
she lived in a bottle. There's probably a lot of

(01:10:38):
people you could say that about, but it wouldn't mean
the same thing, you know, same words, Yeah, just a
different kind of bottle. Good thing.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
Geenny wasn't in that kind of bottle. That'd have been
a mess.

Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
A couple of things real quick? Where is my email here?

Speaker 5 (01:10:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
David Wade in talking about strangest things we'd ever caught.
He said, I caught a blow fish once, and it
is Have you ever caught one of them?

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Melvan Negative? It's really they're really cool. I've never caught one.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Then they do exactly as their name implies, when when
they get caught and they're like, oh boy, okay, you
got me now. But I don't feel really safe being
dragged in. So what I'm gonna do is I'm just
gonna fill my whole body with air and float up
here on the top like a cork and expose all
these little hard spines I have so you won't want

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to pick me up. It's a safety mechanism for them.
When they're startled and threatened. Instead of looking like a smooth, bodied,
tasty little fish, they suddenly become a coronavirus. Remember what
they look like with a head and a tail. That's
that's a blowfish. And I used to catch them down
in Florida at my my grandparents' backyard. As a matter

(01:11:50):
of fact, some little ones. They'd be cruising the canals
in there, and you'd think you had a hardhead catfish,
which is tough enough to get off a hook, and
then up would pop this blow fish like, oh really, man,
and Granddaddy come out here, quick.

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
Help me out.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
I mean, he wouldn't do it, he would make me
do it, but he would instruct me on how to
use the plyers and how to use a towel and
whatever to get that thing off that hook. That was
before I decided to start mashing the barbs on my
hooks too, And in hindsight, I wish I had him
all smashed down. I talked to my buddy Mark about

(01:12:29):
that too the other day, about how we might He said,
do you have problems with turtles using that corn for bait? Well,
they're fun and they're different, especially for a five year
old kid. That kid's going to be excited to see
that turtle come lumping up there. But if you've got
barbleous hooks. You don't even really have to get him.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
Out of the water.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
You just have to kind of tug on the line
until you can expose that hook and then grab it
right down there by the bend and just turn it
backwards and slide it out.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
Someone three two.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
One two five seven ninety email we Dug Pike at
iHeartMedia dot com. I wanted to take an opportunity to
mention you've heard me talk now this morning about Phoenix
Knives and about rafter V Services, and one of the
reasons I've got them in this show is because they
also are supporting this Week in US Military History feature

(01:13:19):
that I've been doing now for quite some time, and
I feel like needs more exposure. I feel like needs
more plays every week. Far as I'm concerned tipping a
cap to our military and all that it's done to
keep us in a position where we can enjoy the
things we enjoy so much we had to have the

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freedoms we have, I think it ought to play on
every station that we own that I heard owns and
the rest of them too. It's a simple thing to
sponsor if any of you are interested in doing that.
It's not a terribly expensive endeavor either and your your
company will get plenty of mention, It'll get plenty of
run in there. I'll take care of that, because that's

(01:14:03):
part of what I do. It's just a simple sixty
second feature that highlights usually three events from that week
that are related to military history, and usually three depending
on how much time. I've got three recipient recipients of
this Nation's Medal of Honor, and I'm really proud to

(01:14:24):
do that. I'm very happy to do that. Not a
problem at all. All you got to do if you want,
if you're interested, and you want to see what it
takes to get involved with that and find a place
to call it home, for it to call home other
than where a rafter V Services and where Phoenix Knives
have it stationed. Right now, I'd be happy to talk
to you about it. Seven one three seven ninety email

(01:14:47):
me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
I'd still I'm I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
I don't know if I want to hear the story
about how a beaver got into Rick Biss's shop bathroom
or not. It makes no sense to me, But then again,
a lot of things in the outdoors don't make sense.
They just make you more aware. They make you more
excited to be alive. They make you more excited to
have been where you were when you saw that happen,

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when you felt it, when you saw it, when you
smelled it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
Whatever it took.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
If you're not in the outdoors, I don't care how
tight cameras get, how I don't care how lifelike some
video representation of something is. I remember some guy sent
me a video game, probably twenty twenty five years ago,
when I was still at the paper and the video game.

(01:15:40):
This was when all of that was still fairly new,
and in the pitch that he sent with the email
kind of bragged about how realistic the trees look in
this game. And the minute I read that, I just
felt like, what an idiot I am to even be
thinking about that. If I want to see a real tree,

(01:16:02):
I'll walk outside, I'll go to the woods. I'll walk
right up to one and just pad it, just pat
it on the trunk. Hey, yep, that's a tree. I'm
not gonna look for trees and video games. What a
waste of time, What a waste of an opportunity to
go into the wild, to go into just somewhere where
they're I'm not going to say where nobody's ever been,

(01:16:24):
because that's pretty hard to pull off these days, but
at least where nobody is today. Hey, Joe, I got
just a couple of minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:16:32):
What's up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Hey, I don't know what it's called, but Texas City Dike.

Speaker 8 (01:16:36):
We're fishing and we cat it's an ugly looking fish.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Looks like a rock, a dog fish, maybe a dogfish probably, Yeah,
I'd almost bet on it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
Yeah, because they are some kind of ugly.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Yeah, make a freight train, take a dirt road as
they say. Yeah, thanks a lot, Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
That's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Yeah, yeah, I've caught I caught those down there in
Florida too, and a couple of them here off the
pier when I was a little kid and off the Yeah.
Every now and then, you're just gonna up in some
of the backwaters of the bays. You catch a dog fish,
You're the first thing you're gonna say it, what is that?
Because it looks unlike anything else out there? Really, Uh,

(01:17:23):
I can't think of anything that it even halfway mimics.
Maybe like a not nearly so colorful lion fish, almost
with the big big wide pectoral fins and just big ugly.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
But it's just a.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Brown and brown and gray and orangish and just dark
olive green, if I'm remembering correctly, just a but ugly fish.
I feel pardon the pardon the expression. Yeah, I don't
want to catch another one of those. There's just no
that's They're kind of like the mosquitoes of the sea.

(01:17:58):
I guess I can't figure out what the purposes. And
I'm sure they have a purpose or they wouldn't be there,
but I just don't know what it is. All right,
let's take a little break here, get out on to
this break on time. Uh, for the first time this morning,
I believe Melbourne, Happy days.

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Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Thank you for listening. Certainly do appreciate it. A oh,
there's another Kevin's weighing in with something on. Oh maybe
this is him. Let me see hold on, let me
get the right mouse in my pocket. We'll go straight
here and then at some point we'll get to some golf.
Don't worry. What's up, Kevin, Hey, Doug, how you doing this?
I'm good man, Thank you.

Speaker 10 (01:18:48):
I've got an unusual catch.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
Bring it on, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:18:52):
I fish down here on the on the coast Dud
area quite a bit. One morning I was fish waitfishing
at on Neapreme Waiters, the water with gin clear, a
little bit chilly, just enough to have a smoke coming
off the water, fished over by the Coastguard station off
of the surf side Jettie Channel, and I looked down

(01:19:13):
and there's something swimming up to me and it was
a little seahorse, but it cool. It was a sea horse,
unlike anything I've ever seen. It also looked like it
had twigs coming off of it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
That was a saddle.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
That was his saddle, Yeah, now it was.

Speaker 10 (01:19:32):
It was one of the otter crews.

Speaker 5 (01:19:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
There are different kinds of seahorses that a lot of
people don't realize that there's several of them out there,
and that I don't. I don't know exactly which one
you saw, but you saw a fairly rare one, I
would bet yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:19:47):
And I was able to catch it. In my hand
out for a few minutes and then I let it swim. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
Wow, that's pretty neat, man, it really is. That seahorse
had a good story to tell them too, when it
got back to his friends. You know, yeah, hey, this
big human. Yeah, you're not gonna believe there's a whole
world above the water. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
That's awesome, man, that's a good one. Thanks.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:20:09):
Other than Adam, just out riding the roads going between
my parts, this morning's beautiful morning.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
Any more events down there in the guy, wouldn't it
be nice to have an event today? Holy cow?

Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
Well?

Speaker 10 (01:20:20):
Actually, truthfully, there is what's going on today. It's a
kidfish event that's going on the lawn at Bass Pro Shop.
That's put on by the Brissouri County Parks in conjunction
with Bass Pro Shop going up.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
There at at eighty eight and ninety or to eighty
eight and Bell Way eight. Yes, right there.

Speaker 10 (01:20:39):
They've got the little stocked ponds there and they have
to kids fish in there and they'll catch bass, catfish
and a few other things.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Boy, I wish they'd open it up to two people
who did radio shows. I'd like to go check.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
I have to go fish that lake.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Well, you know, they probably let you sneak in their dug.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
They keep pretty tight wraps on it. I've heard.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
I know one guy who tried to go fish over there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
He had his laure, hadn't even hit the water, and
there's somebody running out there to run him off. Hilarious. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:21:10):
But they have a bunch of different seminars, oh wow,
and instructional boots where one of them they have the
where they're teaching them how to cast to the little
plastic fish. One of them that, matter of fact, the
one that I've done the last few years is explaining
the terrain and topography of lakes and saltwater estuaries.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
Yeah, wow, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
And then yeah, they.

Speaker 10 (01:21:36):
Got one on terminal tackle shows you all the different
ways of tyna not and boy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
You know, no, I guarantee you they're not showing us
all the different ways to tie not if you watch,
if you looked at YouTube and Facebook lately, every it's
probably because of what I do and what I like,
but every day it seems like somebody's showing me how
to tie a new not.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
I just don't have time to know all those knots.

Speaker 10 (01:21:59):
I know, I get the same stuff on my timeline.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
I'm sure you do their slick to some of them, like, oh,
I'd like to learn to tie that. Oh, look, here's
something shiny, and then I'm done. Okay, man, it's great
to hear from you, Doug. We'll have a great weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
Thanks Kevin.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Thanks for the call.

Speaker 10 (01:22:16):
Now, I don't have another kid, fish of vent or
anything event going on, Okay until May of next year.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Lords all right, well let me know sometime in like
March or April, will.

Speaker 10 (01:22:27):
You oh, I definitely will all be sitting in the information.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
Thank you, Kevin.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
All right, take care of anybody. Audios.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
All right, let me go check with LJ. Here see
what's on his mind. LJ.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
What's going on, buddy?

Speaker 11 (01:22:39):
Well, just got a strange catch story, or rather what
you catch on how Yeah, sure have a friend that
have a friend that those two to throw fish. I
mean he's a member of a trap club in Colorada
and he just soon go ahead in the boat set
out throw lines. We fished the Aransas River, which is

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really not much of it. We yeah, but we were
maybe the eight or ten miles from the bay catching
blue cat on throw lines baited with Zotase soap.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Got it right, Oh it's ay. See that's one of
the few.

Speaker 11 (01:23:17):
Soaps left that's got tallowed and it actually oh fat, Okay,
a nine pound fish just love one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
So that's you.

Speaker 11 (01:23:29):
You never know what you're gonna catch or have.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
That's my story. Holy cow. Yeah, that's something unusual. I
haven't heard about using soap for catfish bait. Probably in
twenty years, man, maybe more. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 11 (01:23:42):
Parks Wildlife goes ahead and puts out there fishing report
every week, freshwater, salt water, and there's somebody I'm some
y somewhere that you do Zota soap. And my only
tip is get the pink when I don't know if
it beats anything or not, but there's white and there's pink.
Go somewhere where they sell a lot of it, because
if you don't, it gets real dry and hard to cut.

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But that it in't about a three quarter inch qube
put it on a circle hook.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
You'll catch fish.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
Wow, who knew? Huh?

Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
Who knew?

Speaker 5 (01:24:14):
I know?

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Yeah? Thank you. I appreciate you listening and calling anytime, buddy,
Thank you you beck Yes, sorry audios.

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
That's new to me, almost new to me.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
It was tucked away into a corner of my brain
that I don't use very often, which is most of
it probably according to some people.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
And yeah, that brings up some memories too.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
I have never fished with soap for bait, but I
have I definitely remember hearing about it. There was somebody
up on Lake Conrod who used to bait that way
one of the guides. Actually, that's the cheapest bait I
could find. It's just soap. And that was back when
soap was cheap. Now you have to get some fancy
pump bottle or something like that, and you can't hardly

(01:24:58):
get that to stick to a hook. I guess yes.
But nonetheless, if you can buy, if you can get
the right soap, you'll catch him on pink too. Don't
use the white now used to pink. Sure, you know,
I wonder, I wonder how much the fish. That's one
of those things, you know that it's ingrained into Lj's
head that he needs the pink, and if he sees

(01:25:20):
the white and there's no pink, he might not even
go fishing. But that's just something that it worked for
him for the first couple of times they were out
there and for some strange reason, the fish were eating
the pink when first. But I guarantee you the guy
who's who's got a bushel basket full of white soap
of that brand saying, Yo, that's all I catch him on.
That's why I bought a whole bushel basket of it.

(01:25:42):
That's the funny thing about fish baits and fish lures.
It's so much about confidence. It's almost as much about
confidence as it has as it is in legitimate color
selections and whatnot. Now, there are times, and there are
places I know, and I'll concede that sometimes a Speci
Pacific bait will outfish another for six months or a year,

(01:26:05):
and it's the only color they seem to want. But
part of that is because people have already decided that's
the only color the fish want to eat, and everybody's
throwing that same lure because everybody's catching fish on it.
But I used to I used to test that when
I was fishing with guides a lot. They'd say, oh, yeah,
they're eating nothing but purple with a white tail to

(01:26:28):
this month, or purple with a shark truse tail this month.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
Especially along the Middle Coast there was that. For a
long time, it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
Had to be purple and either a white or shar
truse tail, and then all of a sudden I'd put
on something else just to see and you know what
the other colors were working well too. You never know
what those old pesky fish. But I do know that
if you're not if you're tying knots like well, I
tend to do it a lot because I want to
deliberately try different lures and stuff. But if you've got

(01:26:57):
a lure that you like, and you'll a lure that
you've caught fish on and you feel like the conditions
are similar or same to when you were catching fish
with that, stick with it because as long as there's
a lure in the water, you still have a chance.

Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
If you called.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
Time out and now you're just you're fumbling through the
box for three minutes and you're tying knots for another
minute and whatever it is, then that's minutes past that
you can't possibly catch fish. There's no line in the water.
You don't get them. Jeff, what's up man?

Speaker 8 (01:27:26):
I had a question about this week in military history
that first a cow is that about Saratoga.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
I don't have to go back and look, because what
I do is I record these things for at a
time and I don't remember, to be perfectly honest with you,
what's in this week's eight.

Speaker 8 (01:27:42):
If it was him and Gates, Benedict Arnold was there
and he had two horses shot out from under him,
and he rallied the troops and then soured his reputation
and disgraced himself later, But he was a hell of
a commander. If you just studied that along. And I'm
not an expert, I appreciate you bring up such a
variant or different stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
I appreciate you listening to them.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
It's I've got to Actually, when I talked about it
a minute ago, I got a couple of people who
are interested in doing more of these. So hopefully they'll
be on more stations more often, and more people will
give me.

Speaker 8 (01:28:16):
Over to seven ninety. I heard one of them, a
lot of Sean Sells very show or later in the afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Maybe everything right now is is is home based on
seven ninety. The rafter V option is also running on streaming,
which I and I brought in different genres. So if
you were listening to streaming feed of the stations we
have here in Houston. You might get them on a
couple of I think they're on talk news, talk and sports,

(01:28:44):
so it would be kPr C, ktr H and kbm
E and there's there's a lot of way again that cat.

Speaker 8 (01:28:51):
I think your timing is good, especially going and the
next year. I appreciate you bringing it back.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
My pleasure. Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:28:57):
I'm going to say that every week is because I mean, really,
what for don't thank me?

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Think the people who are sponsoring these things, because I
can record them all day long, but we can't get
them on the air without somebody backing them up.

Speaker 8 (01:29:08):
And they're they're doing a beautiful weather.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
Thank you, Amen, Thank you, Jeff. Good to hear from you, buddy, audios. Yeah,
that's I'm hoping I can get a few more cooking
and and it's me you need to call I can.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
I can do the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
You don't have to call in and ask for somebody
else to help put something like that together. I work
that side of the fence over here as well. Seven
one three, two five seven ninety Email me Dougpike at
iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
Gotta take a little break.

Speaker 6 (01:29:35):
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Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
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Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
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Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
Oh, I remember this one. I could sing the song,
but I don't want to bore everybody with it. Shot
was it Ava Goamore Jajah? It was Ava Gabor who
was on that show, not her sister's jajah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
You remember which one it was. There were twins.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
I believe that, really, I think so, Maybe maybe not,
I don't know. I just thought they were very good
looking women because the period in the story moving on,
and of course the husband. This was one of the
earliest shows where the husband was just portrayed as the
bumbling idiot, you know. In fairness to him, he was

(01:30:24):
a big city guy, but he wanted to be in
the country, and she came along with him, to her credit,
and they started a new life out in the middle
of nowhere, knowing nothing, which people who are from the
country probably looked at and just rolled their eyes, because
every city person who comes out to the country, there's
a There was a sheriff in some Colorado county, I

(01:30:45):
don't remember where it was, wrote an entire book, Melvin
of complaints that he had gotten from people who had
moved out into his very rural county from by you know,
people who had moved out there from big cities in California,
in Texas, at wherever, and they'd moved out into rural Colorado,
and by god, they wanted to know why the road

(01:31:09):
to their house, which was gravel when they bought the place,
the ranch at ten twelve acres, whatever they bought, why
hadn't this road asphalted yet? The real estate agent told
me that it was going to be done, and the
county was going to do it. It was gonna be
done just any day now. And we've been here two
months and it's not done. And the sheriff would have

(01:31:29):
to say, you're not getting an asphalt road unless you
pay for it, exactly, county not doing that. You're on
a dirt road place, you're on a gravel road. Place. Sorry,
you might want.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
To call them back.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
There were complaints about the smells coming off of pig farms,
all these you know, that's why it think back to
when that real estate person was showing you that place.
That's why he only took you out there on a
north wind South Wind's a little different and that's just
the way the country is. And I'm sure Rick Rick

(01:32:05):
bikes now, he'd tell you straight up. I honestly, God,
that's what he does for a living, and he's very
good at what he does. And I'm not saying that
he would do that, but I bet he knows people
who would You know? You don't, You don't show him
the ugly part of something. It's like knowing that the
air conditioner's on its last leg, right and just hoping
the inspector doesn't find the leak in the in the
coil and win in Texas. Oh yeah, there's that. Holy cow,

(01:32:28):
I've got one of them. One of my two units
at home is limping right now, and we're coming into
the cooler season, so it's probably not gonna matter. But yeah,
you start buying free on now when it used to
not be much. I have coolant replaced in there, and
and you you had the old stuff, the real true
free on whatever it's called.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
That wasn't that expensive.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
Now the stuff that they put in there is like
one hundred dollars a pound, and the last time mine
got tuck topped off.

Speaker 4 (01:32:58):
It needed three pounds. Thank you. Very much on top
of what it costs for the checkup.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Anyway, off to golf we go, and I do want
to go over to the PGA Tour. Let me get
back over here into this laptop of mine. They're playing
in Vegas this weekend, so it draws a little bit,
a little bit higher level of participation because, after all,
it's the guys at the top of the PGA Tour

(01:33:27):
who have more money than the guys at the bottom.
A lot of the guys who play in the smaller
tournaments this time of year are just out there trying
to make sure they're going to be in the field
next year.

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
Nonetheless, here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
So we are at the Shriners Children's Open, playing at
TPC Summerlin out there in Vegas, close to Vegas, a
little outside town. Taylor Pendrith leading the way at ten
under par, and that's through a completed round one. He
shot sixty one yesterday. For heaven's sakes, these guys are
just nuts good and this is not the hardest course.

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
They play on the PGA Tour.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
But nonetheless, so he's on top at ten through one round.
Rico Hoe shot nine under yesterday. He's finished with his
first round. He and Pendrith both are playing their seventh
hole in the second round.

Speaker 4 (01:34:18):
Doug gimm is at.

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
Eight, along with JJ Spawn, Davis Thompson, Kurt Kittayama, j
T post No Yeah, JT posting. Matt Koocher got two
more of them too, Chad Rami and Scott Pearcy. They're
all at eight under par, just two shots off the lead.

Speaker 4 (01:34:36):
And it's early.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
They had some sort of weather anomaly yesterday, I don't know,
kept off the golf course a long time. A lot
of these guys are just playing their first holes of
round two or aren't not. Yeah, they're yeah, they're into it.
It's daylight out there, so they're going and they're going
to try. I'm presuming to get in two rounds today.

(01:34:58):
I'm looking for a a big name, one of the
big name guys whom I have Ricky Fowlers out there
scrolling just a little bit more before I get bored
with looking way down the list doesn't look like actually,
you know, a lot of these guys are taking the
whole season off. They committed to it early and they're
gonna keep on doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
I guess, yep, We'll leave it at that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
On the Shriner's Children's open I'll take another look tomorrow
when we get back in here, and I want to
go back a little bit. I've actually gotten another another
inquiry about sponsoring the military appreciation piece that I do,
and I'm thrilled with that. I truly am. I talked

(01:35:40):
to David Malsby the other day. I don't know if
I'll hear back from him or not. He's the guy
who runs Camp Hope. That Veterans organization a great place
where some of these veterans who are really struggling can
make a phone call and just have somebody who can
listen and understand the way they feel after coming back
from combat do. It's a it's a fantastic place. There's

(01:36:03):
it's kind of a halfway point between between where they
are and where they can be. I don't want to
say where they were, because that's that's in the past,
and they're they're starting from whenever they make that first
phone call to Camp Hope, and then they in many
cases get opportunities to live on that property.

Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
On that facility, there's a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
Of room for people who really need a place, and
and there's a lot of help for people who need
to find some purpose and reassimilate into a society that's
very different than what they knew in the military and
what they experienced in the military. And I'm I'm thrilled
that Camp Hope is there. Man. We we get some

(01:36:48):
of those guys from Camp Hope out for our Saint
Jude Golf Tournament at Golf Club of Houston every year.
We're going to have a few more of them this
year as well. Come out there and play a little
golf and have a little fun and just just keep
working on getting back to as close to where they
were when they left when they left for boot camp
as as we can get them seven one, three, two

(01:37:10):
two five seven ninety email and me Doug Pike at
iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 4 (01:37:14):
And I'm so glad that some of you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
I get emails fairly regularly from people asking about that
and why it started and how it started. And I
don't even remember what prompted me to do that, other
than that it seemed a really good idea. And the
first person who ever sponsored it was the man who
owns Oh gosh, what's the name of that dog on place?

(01:37:39):
You know what it's It's slipping my mind right now.
Oh my gosh, it's just fallen out. I don't know why.
I'll get it back in a minute. I'll get it
back when we get back from this break. Let's do that.
I'll have it because it's It's on the tip of
my tongue, and so help me. As soon as I
finished telling you about Timber Creek, I'm gonna remember it,
and I'm gonna wish I had gotten it ten seconds earlier.

(01:38:03):
Seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (01:38:05):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety Houston Sports Online at
sports seven ninety dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Back to the Doug Fike Show, Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
Thirty seven on Sports Talk seven ninety. That's another good one, man.
How long can you keep this up? These are all
shows that were super popular back in the day, and
I don't know how far back we can go. I
wonder how far back we would have to go to
find one that somebody younger than thirty would just never
have heard of. Even younger people have heard of Gilligan's Island.

(01:38:37):
I would think, I accept your challenge. Okay, okay, here
we go. We there's certainly no shortage of television shows,
and I'll open it up. It doesn't have to be
it can be from the Detective Show era. I'm thinking, boy,
the Lord knows there's plenty of those to go around.

(01:38:58):
Some of them I may not. I got that one.
I got Bewitched, and I dream Agenie mixed up earlier.
That's possible. By the way, the name I was trying
to remember, the original sponsor of the This Week in
US Military History was Federal Maintenance Services, and the guy's
name is Tim Garcia, a great guy.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
He just had to pull back from that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
Because he was building a new building on his property
that where his business starts every morning out in Missouri
City or actually in Stafford, and he needed he needed
to funnel some money that way to get that building
taken care of so he could grow his business. And
more power to him, he's got a fantastic business if

(01:39:40):
you ever need some of that work done. I see
the trucks from Federal Maintenance Services out there at black
Hawk all the time, and they work all over town.
You'll see him. There's a big eagle on the side,
and the text around that eagle, toward the bottom, I
think it is says where a handshake still means something.

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
I saw that years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
And that's what triggered the phone call that started that relationship,
and we did business together for a long time, and
I hope I can get him back someday. I hope
I can, because that's really that's kind of the way
I look at stuff, where a handshake still means something.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
That's the way I was brought up.

Speaker 3 (01:40:19):
Got a couple of emails I need to go over,
but it's okay. Billy Stoker wade fishing in Rockport late November.
Thought I hooked a stingray since it was staying on
the bottom. Let's see, thought I hooked a stingray. It

(01:40:41):
was staying on bottom, getting close, and a blue and
white rope appeared and it was tied to a hammer.
My buddies gave me so much grief. Yeah, I bet
they did. You're bragging about this big, big fish you
had stuck on the bottom. Might be a giant stay,
who knows it might be a whale? Oh no, just

(01:41:03):
a hammer boy, the funniest one. And I saw this
prank played on somebody just the other day, a revival
of a very old school prank in offshore fishing. As
you take up and he find get somebody to go
in and get a sandwich or whatever out of the
salon in a boat, or even on a smaller boat,

(01:41:25):
you can do it if they'll just turn their heads
for a little while and it's their turn to be
on the rod.

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
By gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
And somebody ties a bucket, just an empty bucket, to
the line on a reel, lets a bunch of line out,
and then closes that reel and hollers fish on, and
of course the boat's moving and you're out there trolling
and the boat's moving.

Speaker 4 (01:41:50):
Forward, so boy, there's line.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
There's just drag stripping off of there, and the rod's
all bent over, and this guy goes over and grabs
a rod and sets the hook, and you just keep encouraging,
and if the boat captains any good at all, he
can turn that boat and move that boat very subtly
and raise the throttle, ower the throttle a little bit
to make it feel for all the world like that

(01:42:15):
bucket is fighting that guy, fighting him hard, and it's
it's pretty funny when the guy finally gets it in
close enough to see what he's got, and everybody else
bursts out laughing, and hopefully he does too. It's an
old prank, but it's a good one. Someone three seven
to nine email Medugpike at iHeartMedia dot com. Moving down

(01:42:37):
the line forrest waited in faux pro ways in do
we even need a real camera anymore for outdoors pictures?
My android does such a fine job, such a great job.
Wondering if I really need a camera anymore? And honestly,
the way the cameras are on phones now, you you

(01:43:00):
really don't. You really don't. Unless you're doing some very
specific thing that requires even more than the broadcast quality
than Hollywood quality, then no, you don't need a bigger camera. Now,
if you're going to try to zoom in on something

(01:43:22):
very very far away, you get into some aspects of
bigger lenses that it would be required. But by and large,
anything you want to just be shooting while you're running
around in the outdoors, you can do it with your
phone and you can get excellent images. I've talked about
that a lot, and as so long as you're first
of all the thing I tell people to do, and

(01:43:46):
every time I talk.

Speaker 4 (01:43:47):
First of all, just get the image first.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
If your subject is still where it needs to be,
if everything still looks kind of the same and you
want to try to blow it up a little bit,
go ahead and shoot that image, blow it up a
little bit, blow it up a little bit more. But
one of those images then you can go back into
once you have it, and you can crop it. I'm
not a big fan of filtering and saturation of color

(01:44:11):
and all of that and really changing what nature looked like. Usually,
if you get a decent shot, nature will take care
of all that part for you.

Speaker 4 (01:44:19):
You just need to crop it right.

Speaker 3 (01:44:22):
And once you learn how to crop photographs and you
understand the rule of thirds in photography, it's all over
the internet if you want to go look it up
and start taking better pictures. Once you understand that, you'll
get a real handle on how to take fantastic shots
that are certainly easily put onto Facebook and any other

(01:44:42):
social media site you want to put them on. And
in some cases you could actually transfer them over and
download them to a difference. So I actually you could probably
just take your phone into some of the photography places now.
Walmart has used to have, at least I don't know
if they still do. I used to get a lot
of my photographs that I actually sold printed at Walmart

(01:45:05):
because they had high tech equipment in the store. I
was going to I don't know if they still do
that or not, but most of what's done on modern phones,
on contemporary phones now, well it's just just the phone's
just one of the apps on these devices. They're like
baby laptops, is what they are. And the capacity for
those cameras to take excellent quality images, both in video

(01:45:28):
and instills is amazing. You don't have to carry a
camera bag anymore. I don't even if I'm going on
some sort of assignment.

Speaker 4 (01:45:38):
I don't carry a camera.

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
I carry my phone and I trust it to get
the images I want and it hadn't let me down yet.
Knock on wood. All right, Well, take this last break
of the program. When we get back, we'll wrap it up,
figure out what we've talked about, what we've missed it.

Speaker 6 (01:45:52):
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Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
Now more bike.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
We've only missed one today of all the incredible television
show we could do, make this the whole weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
Okay, can you do it tomorrow too? Surely you can, Yes,
we could do that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
We'll find some great rejoin music that brings up some
of the great shows of the past. Dragnet that was
pretty cool. What was that guy's name, the guy who
starred in it. I can't remember off him, remember, Yeah, Well,
don't worry about it, don't go looking for it. We'll
maybe we'll bring that up tomorrow again after you play one.

(01:46:33):
But that was another show that I liked to watch
because and that all of those shows were very well written.
A lot of the TV shows today are either just
new twists on old old themes or even the original ones.
The writing pool available to television now that there are
one hundred TV stations and not just three networks, the

(01:46:56):
number of quality writers available to write these shows has
greatly dwindled. They're just used to be. They'd have like
the Dick Van Dyke Show, I Love Lucy things like that,
they'd have six or eight or ten writers, and they
were all very good. I would venture to guess that
in television now, in scripted shows like that, whether they're

(01:47:19):
whatever kind of show they are, they have like maybe one,
possibly two good writers and five or six or eight
who are trying to break into the business and get
better and are good enough to land on the staff
of a decent show, but not good enough to carry
anything with maybe just three or four of them and

(01:47:41):
nobody else.

Speaker 4 (01:47:42):
It's a lot of work, a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (01:47:44):
Coming up with weekly shows like that and weekly scripts
like that, and I tip my caps to them. It's
not easy, and the more deluded the talent pool, the
more difficult it becomes. Every now and then I'll see
something awkward or hears something awkward, especially in the dialogue
in a script, and I don't know whether they just

(01:48:05):
let an ad lib get through or whether it was
actually written that poorly. But if you listen for him
and you kind of know what you're looking for, you
can see it when it comes up. Anyway, I'm glad
to report that Mark, as he drove his dad out
of Florida ahead of Helene. I believe it was Helene

(01:48:25):
it got him out of there, or maybe it was Milton.

Speaker 4 (01:48:27):
It might have been Milton.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
He went down there for I got a chance to
listen to the show, and his dad liked it and
made nice compliment to me when he brought up the
names of Kurt Gowdy and the American Sportsman and my
show all in the same sentence. Apparently, I'm super flattered
by that. That's pretty good stuff there. Thank you for that, Mark.

(01:48:50):
That was kind of a rough ride out of there too,
Holy Cow rough ride. Going down the list, down the list,
down the list. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that,
and I'm okay with that. One other thing Kevin wanted
to kind of throw out, and we don't really have
time to go into it today.

Speaker 4 (01:49:07):
You might look at it tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
Is the regional names for some of the fish that
we catch. A crappie is also called a white perch
and is also called soak lea over in Louisiana. Ling
that's a lemon fish. In other parts of the coast,
Kobe is the proper name, and then we call them

(01:49:29):
ling a lot here in Texas and lemon fish over
in Florida. Why lemon fish, I have no idea. I'm
trying to think of what it might be. Although a
slab of lemon fish buttered up just right and under
a little slice of lemon sure comes out of the
oven pretty tasty. I'll guarantee you that. That's kind of

(01:49:50):
like the that's the axis deer of the sea. When
when you're talking about easily accessible fish. You can catch
them right along the beach front in springtime, and they
sure are good It's not like having to go out
all the way to catch a red snapper, where even
down down farther down our coast, where the water gets
deeper faster, you still got miles to cover before you

(01:50:13):
get to good snapper water. It was fun over in
Florida when I was a little kid fishing over there
from my grandparent based at my grandparents house in summertime.
We occasionally caught red snapper off the pier. You'd chum
him at night and just start dropping chum in the water,
and thirty forty five minutes later and some of these

(01:50:34):
big fat red snapper would come idling in from the
next reef out off the pier, off the end of
the pier, and holy cow, that was pretty special. Also
caught Kobe.

Speaker 4 (01:50:44):
I watched a kid with an.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
Old, old rod and really heavy line hook of kobe.
He had a live bait and he just stuck the
rod in a little hole that was drilled in the
railing on the pier.

Speaker 4 (01:50:57):
He didn't know what he was doing, but he had
a little live.

Speaker 3 (01:50:59):
I think a pilchered on there, dropped it over the side,
had about a three ounce lead weight on it, and
just send it straight down to the middle of the
water column and then put it in that holder, and
half a minute later this rod was just almost to
the bursting point.

Speaker 4 (01:51:15):
Jack Webb, that was that guy's name.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
Thank you, Dan. All Right, I might finished at Kobe
a story tomorrow, might not. Anyway, we gotta check out
of here. Dan Matthews coming up next on Sports Saturday,
and we're gonna find out all about what's going on
in college football with him, what's going on with the
Texas with him. The Rockets might be talked about. They're

(01:51:42):
playing really well so far. I'm gonna be watching a
lot more Rockets games and see, well, I watched a
lot last year. They're looking like contenders. Boy, there's a
lot going on in sports in this town. We'll get
to that some other time. I'm focused on the outdoors
and golf mostly.

Speaker 4 (01:51:58):
Although I am a fan of all sports.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
I'll be back in here tomorrow morning. At Hey. Thank
you all so very much for listening, and I'll get
back to those of you who wanted to talk about
that military appreciation piece as well. See you then get outside,
have some fun.

Speaker 4 (01:52:13):
It's gorgeous outside. Take the whole family.

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
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