AM Show Hr 3 | We Lost One Of Harris County's Best

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We lost to Harris County deputy yesterday. You know, I described this story
like this. I saw a storyyesterday that the sheriff will have to do
kind of a press release that youknow, we've lost a deputy. Was
he was hit by he was struckby a vehicle while he was assisting at

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a crash scene. And he think, well, that's unfortunate and I was
busy, and I thought, youshould stop and engage. You should find
out who the family is. Weshould mention him on air, We should
his life mattered, and we shouldtake a moment and honor that. And

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I got busy, as we alldo. About twenty minutes later, we're
wrapping up a segment and we're doinga podcast for the weekend, and I
paused and checked emails because I geta lot of great show content from you
with the emails you sent in.And I get an email from someone who

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says, my cousin died today.He was a they're deputy, and we're
a law enforcement family. This guywas law enforcement, His dad was law
enforcement, His dad's brother was lawenforcement. His dad's brother's son was law
enforcement. Who is the guy whowas killed? Over a twenty year veteran.
The whole family a law enforcement AndI thought, you know, I

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found that to be an unfortunate story. But there's a wife, there's family.
I mean this their whole world isrocked. It'll never be the same
And we've all had a moment likethat, right where you get that call
and you realize life will never bethe same again. Khou had the story.

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A grieving widow and other family membersjoined law enforcement family this afternoon,
escorting and then honoring Harris County Sheriff'sDeputy John can Do as his remains arrived
at the Emmy's office. Our heartsare broken, our spirits are crushed.
A US Army that could joined theSheriff's office as a detention officer more than
twenty years ago, then became adeputy in twenty oh five. At the

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time of his death this morning,he was an investigator with the Violent Crimes
Unit, likely in playing clothes whenhe decided to stop and help at a
minor crash scene. Something happened tostop just to help the people out,
just so those what kind of personhe use? Montgomery County Sheriff's Deputy Zach
Vercher just recently met Cadou during afishing trip with the nonprofit Texas Boys Outdoors,

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which takes out first responders, militaryveterans, and kids in need on
outdoor trips. They're a wonderful man, very humble at you know, well
spoken and down to earth, andthe family mans for sure, Virtuer says.
Kado even made this funny sign sinceit was cops versus firefighters to see
who'd get the biggest catch, lookabout his career. We spoke about my
career, and at the end ofthe day, you know the conflict took

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to win, and you know Johnwas Derek excited about it. Texas Boys
Outdoors posted about the sudden, shockingloss and how KDO wanted to help with
future trip, saying in part quotevery sad day to lose a true hero
and top notch Texas Boy veteran andpolice officer man. I found the email.

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The woman who sent it, hername is is Julie Crochet or it
might be crutching. It might Idon't know. It might be like keeping
up appearances. I don't know ifthis is missus Bucket or missus Bouquet.
But she sent me a message.My brother and I are both fans of
your show. Our beloved cousin,Johnny was killed today assisting with a crash.
We are devastated. We are alaw enforcement family. And then she

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goes through her own dad was HPDfor thirty eight years, her brother was
HPD before becoming Homeland Security. Hercousin Johnny served for over twenty years.
But you think about this, Heserved in the army. Then he got

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there is a certain sheep dog mentality. It's important that we understand that we're
not all built the same, andwe shouldn't all be built the same.
We can't have a nation of justcomputer programmers. We can't have a nation
of just football players. You haveto have a broad set of skills,

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and we should honor those. Weshould reward those, We should respect those.
We should acknowledge that we need peoplethat are going to put on a
uniform and shave their head and gothrough hell and go and fight for us.
And we need people that are goingto be on the streets when these

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democrats come to kill you, stealyour car, do all these awful things
that are going to get in betweenthem and you wherever possible, So John
could do rest of peace, theMichael Berry Show, Love of Mine.

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Someday you will die, but I'llbe close behind. I'll follow you into
the dark. You'll blinding lie ortunnels to gates of why our hands clasp
so tired waiting for this is thewhat do they call heaven and hell?

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Aside death? Our satisfy a th A luminate the nose death tab for
cutie death Cab for Cutie's. Sothat's the thing now with bands is that
they all have to have really stupidnames. Do you notice that? And
restaurants too. I find it sofascinating that people who want they live and

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die off good reviews, right,and they all they act like they're so
independent and artistic, but actually they'rethe ultimate conformists. They are doing exactly
what you're supposed to do. Youknow, you can't be the Yardbirds anymore.

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You got to be death Cab forQT. I mean, what the
hell is that? I mean,at least to her credit, Taylor Swift
goes by her damn name. Soyou know what my wife said yesterday,
Emily is a Taylor Swift nut.I mean loves Taylor Swift. So she

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and Jody some of you remember Jodyof Jody and Alex fame. She was
also at the RCC. She's thechiropractor. Now they had a listening party
just the girls of Taylor Swift becauseTaylor Swift had her big album come out.
It's the biggest selling album of alltime or at least downloaded, And
I honestly can't tell you one TaylorSwift song. And that's not to brag.
That's just I don't listen to modernmusic. And so she was raving

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about Taylor Swift and she told mywife, you got to hear this.
And so my wife, who doesn'tlisten to any music ever, said,
Okay, pick one song, letme play it now, let me hear
it. So she listened to itand she goes, okay, give me
another one that's representative, not onone end, and she said, I

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was so depressed at the end ofthose two songs. I said, well,
my understanding is that's kind of it. It's women in dysfunctional relation,
it's sex in the city music.And apparently she just turns out song after
song after song about he left me, and yeah, he left you.
Hell, I never even met you, and I've left you. You talk

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too much, you whine too much, you complain too much, you feel
sorry for yourself. Jiminy's I'm tiredof you already and I have literally never
even met you. I got sotired of you and that Kelsey and just
the over the top romance that's nevergoing to end. Well, I mean,

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you think about in history, youthink of all the romances that got
all the you know, they don'tI guess they do do that as Brad
and Angelina or Brad and Jennifer,or you know, there's a certain type
of girl who I bet now alllistens to Taylor Swift, who really get
off on the celebrity couple and they'lltell you that and a couple together who

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cares. I mean, honestly,so, Linda says, death Cab has
been around forever. Look up myfavorite song, CAF. It's based in
some English novel that you'll get geekedabout. I don't think I will.
I really don't think I will,but I do want to say this.
I received a meme and it's Bethfrom Beth Dutton from Yellowstone, I forget

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her name, and it has herwith this kind of you know, because
women really liked her because she fightsand she's tough, and they all got
a little mean in them. Womenall have a little mean in them.
She drinks too much and fights toomuch, and f's too much and she's
crazy and they're like, yeah,I like her. Oh, nobody wants
to marry her. I mean,even rip has to be anyway. It

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said everyone who had quote talks toomuch end quote on your report card?
What do you do for a livingnow And I posted that and Jim Budd
sent sent me an email and hesaid, do you realize that this is
the theme of our show more daysthan not. It's talking to my wife

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last By the way, I wantto if you were labeled the class clown,
if somebody told you you were goingto be a loser, if somebody
if you got the talks too muchand you got suspensions and you feel like
you turned out well. I'm notsaying you need to be a head of
NASA. I'm just saying you feellike you turned out well despite that,
and maybe the talking is a keyto your success. Call us seven three

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nine nine nine one thousand seven onethree nine nine nine one thousand. I
was talking to my wife last nightand we were talking about how much of
a kid's childhood is driven by theirperformance in school. Whether a teacher gives
them an A or a C canaffect the the entirety of a child's being.

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And I said, I feel I'min a position to be able to
talk about this because I didn't goon January sixth. I was invited private
jet. The whole experience come toJanuary sixth. We're gonna eat at these
great restaurants, wouldn't it cost mea dime and some really cool people that
I haven't to really like. AndI didn't because I don't do anything.

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If I had gone, I wouldnow be talking about the overreaction by the
FBI of January sixth, and somepeople would think he's just saying that because
he was there and he's trying todefend himself. But I didn't go.
Yet I still believe that. Doesthat? Does that make sense? So
I feel like because I was anerd, and I was really really good

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at school, and I got alot of attention from adults by being really
really good at school. He's agreat kid. He's wonderful. Date our
daughter of Michael, come and hangout, Come watch TV at I I
want my kids to be around you. Because I made the top grades,
well, that didn't make me abetter person, that's the game. Whereas

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my brother a more decent human being, a person with greater integrity, a
person that you would want you knowas your next door neighbor because he'd actually
fixed stuff and care about stuff.He was terrible in math, It was
terrible in school. And I don'tknow some of you will remember, we
used to get our report cards everysix weeks. You get a progress report

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every three weeks. It was alwaysone. And I remember one time the
report card was this little like anindex card now, and they'd put the
grades in there, and there werethree layers to it, and they would
rip it out and there was awhite and a yellow and a pink.
And Chris was failing. Might havefailed, I don't know. And he
he forged my mom's signature. Now, the problem with that is he said

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he was left handed. Anybody whoknows lefties back in the day, they
didn't know how to teach them howto write. So you know, we
hold the pen, the pen lagsbehind us when we move left to right.
For you young people, we usedto write with a pin. We
didn't have a computers back, sothe pin drags behind you. Well,
what lefties do is they make ahook and they hook it and then they

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write inside their hand, which meanstheir handwriting shifts. It tilts very far
because of the angle in which they'redoing it. So anything a lefty rights
from that era, I can spotit, and a teacher can spot it.
They have a very distinctive handwriting,so he forged my parents handwriting.

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They go back and look at lastyear and they go, well, that's
funny. His parents don't write likea lefty. He's a left So he's
getting in trouble. He's coming.I mean, I can remember these long
drawn out well, it's not likemy parents were bad people. My mom
subscribe to the theory which everyone did. You've got to do well in school
or you'll be in prison. Right, You've got to do well in school

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or you'll go to prison. Yougot to do well in school or you'll
be on welfare. And we're notone of those families. We're gonna work
hard and make something of ourselves.Well. As it turns out, your
grade in school is not terribly uh, causative of where you're going to be
there. It might be correlative becauseof behaviors. And so I just think

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about all that lost time and howmany families, how many kids need you
know, antidepressants because they didn't dowell in school. We've got to teach
people there's a better way. TheMichael Berry Show kid. Every year at

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the Little League World Series, they'llhave pro players who will come and announce,
and those pro players at some pointthe non athlete. Broadcaster will say,
did you play in the lit LeagueWorld Series? And there are no
At twelve, I didn't even makethe All Stars. Michael Jordan didn't make
his high school basketball team, hegot cut from it. Scottie Pippen wasn't

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any good until into his twenties.Dennis Rodman the saying, there's so many
of these stories, and yet therewere kids who were a blaze of glory
when they were ten, eleven,twelve. It's true in academics as well.
We create an educational system to establishand share a common language, in

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a common skill set that's necessary ina civilized society, the ability to do
basic math, for instance. Andwe learn these skills in a civilized society,
and then we create the Olympics ofwho performs best on the tests.

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And that's where we fall down becausewe don't reward the things that we also
need in society, and we overhypethe things that there aren't enough positions for.
And that is very unhealthy. Soif you were told you were a
loser, talked too much, orwhatever else, what's your story. Let's

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start at the bottom with Duncan inNew Orleans. What you got duncan,
Oh, my lord, yeah youdoing I'm yeah. I was always told
that I was the class clown.And what I really think was happening is
they were mistaking I was telling thetruth. I was confused half the time.

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Well, I went to a Lutheranschool. My daddy was a Methodist,
my mother was a Battists. Theyraised my brother a Baptist. He
turned out normal, and they sentme to Missouri sented Lutheran school in a
Catholic town, and half the timeI was trying to figure out whether I
was going to heaven or hell.And of course the Lutheran schools, just

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like the Catholic schools here, theyall have a religion class first thing in
the morning, and then you getthrough your other stuff. But I would
be picked out. You know,what's wrong with you? You look confused,
and I'd tell them, well,what about this? And where are
you hearing that? Well, I'mhearing that at home. And so half
the time. So I went allthrough kindergarten through eighth grade through this Lutheran

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school, and I was confused halfthe time. I took up math and
did well with that, but Igot a passion for radio, and I
was with WSMB here in New Orleansfrom junior achievement from junior in high school
and they eventually offered me a joband I worked as as a night manager

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for five years, put myself throughtwo years of college doing that. And
while I was doing that, Itaught myself how to program, which got
me into a communications company here intown to help pioneer cellular and I was
able to retire at age fifty one. Who was that? That was radio

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phone. I don't know if youremember that or not have been in Cox
because y'all gave us Ray Nagan andyou should be ashamed of that, you
know, you know your experience withnot doing well in school and being in
radio. Radio, in my experienceis almost all dropouts. People who did
not do well in school end upin radio. But that doesn't mean they're

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not extraordinarily creative, doesn't mean they'renot extraordinarily bright. They just, you
know, a lot of it,and especially for boys, is being told
to go to this place, sitin this cramp chair, listen to someone
drone on about something you don't careabout, when you really want to pull

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Susie's pigtails because you want to makeout with her, and then more as
you get older, and then sendingyou to the principal's office, and then
later medicating the hell out of youand telling you you're an awful person.
This is a horrible way to builda society. It's a horrible way to
build a society. And those womendoing that have no clue what they're doing.

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And in fact, most of thewomen doing that, we're gonna go
to Ben next. Most of thewomen doing that are women who could not
survive outside of being a high schoolcounselor assistant principle. That is their little
niche. That's all they can do. Yeah, change your own tire,
Yeah, rebuild your engine, Yeah, go fight a war. They can't

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do any of that. And mostof them can't raise kids either. Ben,
you're on the Michael Berry Show,Ben, what say you, sir?
Hey, Michael, I appreciate thecall. I got like a trip
downer. I was raised very affluent. My father was a doctor, raised
very well, went to a privateCatholic boys school over Memorial and Shephard You're

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probably familiar with what I'm talking about. I was a little scrawny kid.
I was put down in high school, picked on all that stuff. Really
didn't have a good self opinion ofmyself. Got out of school still strong,
went to college up in Ncadochis.Came out of there with a general

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business degree. Didn't know what Iwas going to do, had very little
confidence in myself. Found a jobat a prominent bank with the stage involved
the stage coach. Got in there, I started accounting, went into their
lending department with all these Stanford andall these other high prestige Texas, A

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and M people. They downlooked onme too. Performed outperformed those people.
Then it goes into my marriage.My wife was picking on me and saying
that now I wasn't doing right.Ultimately got divorced, had four children,

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and all of them worked out right. I quit the bank after my divorce,
took a couple of years off andkind of wandered by the wayside.
Figured out I got to do something. Now I'm a truck driver. But
the point is that was three differenttimes and I went down and tried to
feel I wasn't worth And you knowwhat's interesting, Ben, I hear from

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truck drivers more than any other anyother occupation followed by police, and I
never hear from truck drivers that theyhate their job. I hear from truck
drivers very positive messages. Hey loveyour show. Heard you talking to this

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person. I heard you talking aboutthis and I really identify with that.
And you referenced a book and I'mgoing to go back to the podcast and
find it. And hey, haveyou read this book over here? And
uh, you know that you weretalking about this particular valley. And I
think the valley you were talking aboutis where seventy one hits thirty two.
And if you and it's it's interestingbecause nobody thinks when they're a kid they
want to grow up to be atruck driver, because you're supposed to want

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to be a lawyer or a doctor, or a president, or athlete or
singer. But but maybe I'm gettingthe wrong view. But my truck driver
listeners, which is the biggest demo. They love what they do and they
have to be release. Keep thepetting ball home, the pedald, break,

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let it all thing out, callwe got around the baker, the
boys up thirsticks here in Texas,Cana. We'll bring it back no matter
what its. I wonder how manypeople became truck drivers because of the truck

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driving craze. In the seventies.We had a station wagon and I would
crawl back in the back in thatarea behind the seat. You get up
there and you go to tugging totry to get them to blow their horn.
If an eighteen wheeler blew their horn, it was the best day ever.

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Like nothing, no amount of icecream, nothing could be better.
He just blew the horn in reactionto you. But and this is what
I've come to learn in life.On the other side of that, no
good deed goes unpunished. Because hedidn't go and you went, thank you.

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I appreciate that. I'll leave youalone. You were like done again,
done again, kid, I justI just pissed the whole highway off.
Leave me alone, all right?What was yours? Joe? Make
it quick? Go ahead, makeit quick? How quick? How quick?

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One minute? Okay? Well,I I had a mom and dad
who who had an affinity for alcohol. My dad was a musician, and
I was very much a class clown. And I went on to get a
record deal and had some hit recordsand then went into the tech business in

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LA did pretty well there, andnow I live here in Nashville. What's
your last name? That is thatquick enough? That's pretty quick? What
is it? That's squally? Ithink you've beat me before I did.
I emailed you because I listened tothe Uh I listened to the interview where

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they told the story of Clenn Eastwoodand uh getting fired. Oh yeah yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, I recognize you now Okay, I
looked away. The story is alot better. The story is a lot
better when Burt Reynolds tells it.Uh well, uh, well, because

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he's involved in Are you the onethat sent me the link to it last
night? I did? Yeah,I saw that. It's uh and look,
Burt Reynolds is the best. Youcan't you can't ask Lee or anybody
else to tell a story with thequality that Burt Reynolds does, because he's
so cool, and he's he's kindof chewing while he's while he's doing that,

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and and you just you just neverknow what what's what's going to say
next? And and he's kind ofgot this this little, you know,
cocky swagger even as he's sitting withhis foot up there and he's chewing on
something you don't know what it is. And then this is what happened.
That was and he has the sunglasseson and size got the black hat on.
Yeah, no, thank you forsending that. Sending me that was

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I don't think Eastwood would have beenable to tell that story as well either.
By the way, Cliff, you'reon the Michael Berry Show. What'say
use sir? He graduated two pointone out of high school. I was
the class clown. I was theloser. I was also in the Gifted
and Talented program, loser at home. Just like you were saying earlier today,

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you don't go directly into college.I left home at seventeen, finished
high school, figured I had togo to college, wanted to be an
architect, wound up getting a minorin chegology, and then life took over.
Became a welder, owned a bar, went on to become a paramedic,

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and then Medican Harris County, startedworking in the hospital. My wife
at the time said, you realizeyou plateaued. You're good at this,
you have a talent. Go toschool. So at age thirty four,
with two kids, I went backto school full time, worked full time,
had a house payment, everything thatthat includes, and graduated valedictorian.

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And I love what I do.What do you do. I'm a nurse
right on where so I'm the smallestdemographic for your show. Oh you're out
in the country. I'm gonna tellyou where you are? You called recently?
You're out in either Wharton or ElCampo. Yeah, I live in

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Wharton. I took a job.It is a lot less than I'm accustomed
to in the med center, butI serve people in an underserved community and
it is so it's fulfilling, itreally is it. You took a job
in the medicenter, but now you'reout because you called several weeks ago.

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I remember this story. I rememberyour voice. Now we were going to
break so I was going to talkabout the need for male nurses because they're
going to be stronger to lift thepatients out. You got to have one
of those on every shift. Soare you working in Wharton or El Campo?
El Campo and the Memorial Hospital?Where do you work? What hospital?

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El Campo? Memorial? Now?Do you make a lot more money
doing that than you would have ifyou'd stayed being an EMT Oh yeah?
Can you make six figures? Doit? Oh? Hell yeah? If
you work hard enoughs if you havea passion for it if you're good at

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what you do. I've been doing. I've been in I've been in healthcare
for thirty years. I've been anurse a little over twenty. You enjoy
it, Oh get up every morning, I mean not sometimes not as happy
as it should be, but Igo home. It's where it's at for

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me. It's a talent. Iutilized the talent I was given. I
didn't realize I had that talent.Back in high school. I thought I
was going to become an architect,right, you know, everyone has to.
I sucked at math, chemistry,no science, great history and English
were my strengths. But no onebelieved in me. I didn't believe.

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People asked me, why didn't youbecome a doctor because no one believed in
me. I didn't believe in myself, and getting out of high school going
directly to college thinking that, youknow, and I was on my own.
When I went to college, Ihad a full time job, had
lived in a three hundred and fiftydollars a month, two bedroom apartment.
You can imagine what that looked like, and went to school. It didn't

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work. And then, you know, like I said, I was a
welder. I owned a bar.Yeah, no, I think that.
I think that's amazing. I thinkwe have to be careful as parents and
teachers and coaches and grandparents that wedon't tell kids they're losers. Now,
I'm not saying every kid gets atrophy, but I think it's very important

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that we don't set up a systemof rewards and punishment based on how a
school teacher marks an exam as tohow well you regurgitate what she gave you
in class. You know, alot of people don't understand why we need
algebra much less calculous. You doneed algebra because you have two bits of

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information and you need to get youneed to understand the third and that is
That is about processing, That isabout rationalizing, That is about computing and
analyzing, and that's very important.Well, that's a failure of a tea
not to explain why we need algebra. Algebra is not some quirky little hobby

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over here like playing the harp.This is very important to what you do.
You're going to need this for therest of your life. So I
just think we have to be betterat teaching our kids as they're growing to
communicate, to be confident in whoyou are, to be humble in who
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