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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time. Time, time, luck and load. The Michael
Varry Show is on the air. To the phone lines,
(00:26):
we go, Oh, James, you are on the Michael Berry Show.
Welcome sir, Well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Mike. Well, Mike, I'm a long time listener.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I just feel like you're going a little too far
with this North Texas situation.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Okay, tell me why.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, I mean, when I first heard the situation, you know,
we're saying the blacks are stabbing and the boiler terrified,
and you know, new details are coming out that he
was bullied, you know, and I don't know the whole story,
but I feel like it's a Sometimes it's a farce
on blacks. It's all the time that you farce with.
I have buddies from East Textas, the Coons, the Winning area,
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the just the same area that you're from, Nederland, all
the area. And you know, we we play around with
race jokes all the time. But some of this crime
and I think we're using the nineties, the Boys in
the Hood, the Minutes of Society. We're using that that
that imagery from the early nineties to project that all
black neighborhoods are crime ridden. And they're they're they're necessarily
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they're not. Really the crime actually is when you mix
blacks and Hispanics. That's where the crime comes in. The
predominantly black areas don't have a lot of crime. They
have education, they have elders, and they have children. And
it's not a lot of rival gangs. The rival gangs
when you mix racist also the use they don't have anything.
They're taking out all the commercial businesses, they don't have
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any walmarts, targets that it's just the urban. It's the
urban urban Plannet and know a lot of Blacks don't
necessarily want to leave. Its the fact they don't have
the education, the schooling, or the resources. So I feel
it's just a lot of we you know, I mean,
you pretty much lost a listener. I partly land in
Republic Grand Ranch. You know, you know, your your suggestion
really helped out a lot. With that, I'm ready to
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pull out. I mean, those Montgomery people they're not necessarily
like that. I don't feel I don't feel, you know,
threatened or anything, but you've kind of lost the listener today, Michael.
That's what I want to tell you.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, I appreciate you, you sharing that with me. Let
me start by telling you my approach to doing the show.
I arrive every day with the intention of entertaining, engaging,
interacting with people and ideas, and I believe in the truth.
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I also know that I might like my corn bread
different than the other person. But I'm going to tell
you how I like it, and I must tell you
that if you choose not to listen, that's perfectly understandable.
We add and subtract listeners every day, and that's the
nature of what we do. If I concerned myself with
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whether people liked what I have to say, if I
believe it is important to say it, then I couldn't
look myself in the mirror, and I think I would
lose the respect of a lot of other listeners, black
and white alike. Now you're free to not like what
I have to say, But you've made some statements, and
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let me respond to those. First of all, you don't
know if the black kid who stabbed the white kid
was bullied or not. You don't know that you've heard
that because the quant LX of North Texas has said that,
the Al Sharpton of North Texas has said that, and
there are people who are complete Charlattan grifters, who put
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on a tie from Soup Mart and get in front
of the camera and talk in that style and try
to tried to harken back to the civil rights movement
and make people think that blacks are being abused and
that's why this kid got stabbed to death is because
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this black guy's being abused somehow. These are people who
will lie, cheat steel. They are knaves. I've watched Sheila
Jackson Lee do it. I watched Sylvester Turner do it.
These are people who will make claims. I watched the
George Floyd case rollout, and the fact of the matter is,
oh j And I'm sure you know this, whether you
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admit it or not. Most white people have been so
maumowed into this in this country, into submission that y'all
think that's progress. And if anyone doesn't know what mau
mawing means, it's a verb to come from the Mau
Mau revolution that Barack Obama's father was a part of
in Kenya that swept through eastern Africa, and it was
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a a very angry, very violent revolution of black African
natives who were throwing off the yoke of British imperialism.
They were tired of the white man. They didn't want
Cecil Roads, they didn't want Kipling, they didn't want Churchill.
They did not want the English occupation. It wasn't just English.
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There was the French. There were the Belgians in the Congo,
there were the French in Cameroon. But they wanted Africa
for Africa. Understandable. The Indians wanted the same thing, they
just took a different approach with that. I don't have
a problem. The means by which they took back power,
just as in Cuba, was one of great violence. The
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whites who remained were basically subjugated in a reverse reversal
of power, and that term came to be used here
for the menace that was imposed upon whites in public
life by the threat of violence of groups like the
Black Panthers. All of those things are facts. You don't
have to like them, but you cannot keep thinking that.
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You can feign indignance and white people will not state
the truth. Failure to be honest about things like this
has plunged us deeper into problems. Because I'll tell you this,
when I'm with a group of blacks, and they feel
very comfortable with me because we go back twenty years
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or more and somebody will make a statement about something
that is an internacine, intercommunity, intra community issue, whether it's
ashy elbows or skin or some kind of black secret.
They'll say, oh, y'all, don't say that, Michael Logo, tell
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the white people, we don't want the white people knowing.
And it's a joke and we all laugh, right, But
there's also talk that is held amongst blacks that knows
that OJ committed to murder right, they know, they know
that knows that George Floyd was a drughead, that he
wasn't held down to death, that knows that Jesse Jackson
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is a complete charlatan who's out to rip everybody off
and doesn't believe a word he says. It's no, Well,
I'm gonna tell you something else. White people know things
too that they don't say across the tracks. And you
know what happened. You know who gets hurt? OJ, You
get hurt. My kids get hurt when somebody sees you
or my kids walk into a workplace and they go,
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I ain't gonna say a word, but I ain't gonna
hire him. I ain't gonna say a word, but I'm
not gonna trust him because I've seen you can't trust
those people. The minute something goes wrong, they'll say that
the guy who stabbed the other kid, that he was
a victim. They'll hang together. That's what they do. They'll
lie cheap, they'll support George Floyd. We have to be honest, right.
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The problem is not black in Hispanic The problem is
black home black. And the reason there aren't any commercial
businesses is because there's pilfering and stealing at those businesses
and they can't succeed there. We ought to make that
stop and then the businesses will come back. You know,
we got an email doing the break from our fellows.
(08:25):
I'm a Vietnam veteran. I'm not listening anymore. Your service
in Vietnam is appreciated it, but I'm not sure how
that's relevant to where we're going. Let me see why
he's not listening anymore. He's not listening because I said
that if you get COVID or die of COVID after
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having taken the VACS, then that is poetic justice. It's
not what I said. I said those who pushed the vacs.
That is Fauci and Biden. I do hope they get COVID.
I do hope it takes them down. You don't need
to tell me that's evil or devilish or not Christian.
I understand I have family members who died from taking
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that shot. I feel pretty passionately about it. You're free
to have your opinion. You're free to forgive, forget, justify, judge,
But I'm not changing my position. My wife and kids
took that stupid thing. You think I want people to
die from that. But the bigger issue is not the
COVID shot. The bigger issue is this, As I wrote
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to the guy, you misunderstood what I said. Here's what
I said, and here's what I intended. But if you
say you're not listening ever again because I said something
with which you disagree, I want to be as clear
as I possibly can. If I'm left with three people listening,
but there are three honest to goodness, truth seeking, honorable, honest,
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open minded, thoughtful people, I consider that better. I don't
listen to other shows. But we've all heard it. We've
all heard the pandering, the jingoistic patriotism, the jingoistic manhood,
(10:12):
We've all heard it. If the only reason you listen
to our show is you agree one hundred percent with
what I say, why are you listening honestly for an
affirmation of what you already believe? That feels weird. The
old line, if we agree on everything one of us
isn't necessary to me. The interesting parts are where we disagree.
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Why I disagree? Shot, I'm not gonna listen. Look, I
know this sounds arrogant, but why not be honest? You
not listening is not enough to make a difference. Our
show is not sold on ratings. Our ratings are great.
Our show is sold on the basis that people who
sponsor the show spend a lot of money on it
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because they know that our listener it's a qualitative not
a quantitative back They don't want everybody groupon didn't end.
Groupon didn't fall apart because nobody came to the restaurant.
Groupon fell apart because everybody came to the restaurant. It
was just all the wrong kind of people. Houston Restaurant
Week is not a bust because people don't come out
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to eat at a restaurant that would normally be one
hundred dollars per person for a twenty dollars that goes
to charity. Houston Restaurant Week is a bust because you
find out that those people coming out there that you're
not gonna make any money on, they're not samplers that
you want to come back. They're the deal seekers. They
eat half their meal and send it back. They show
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up drunk, They stand up and stagger through the aisles,
They argue with your staff, they humiliate your staff. They
don't tip, they spill things, They piss all over the
floor in the bathroom. The only thing worse than groupon
not or the Houston Restaurant Week, or groupon not delivering
people to your rest is they delivered too many of
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all the wrong kind. What makes our show special is
that companies partner with us because they get the kind
of people that you you would seek out that special person.
How often is it during a transaction that you enjoy
the experience. How often is it that you are providing
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air conditioning services or plumbing or roofing or whatever else
and you feel the need when you're done to send
me an email because you just talked to the most
interesting guy ever. That's where our listener is. You passed
up nine houses to get there, and eight of those
nine you don't want to do that roof. You do
not want to have to argue. You do not want
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to worry he's going to sue you. You do not want
to warr he's going to threaten. You don't where you're
gonna call the cops. You don't know where he's going
to show up or not show up tomorrow. So if
you're that person, you got me fed up. You don't
get me, And that's okay. I say this all the time.
Not every marriage works. Hey, we're not meant to be together.
I'm not offering what you're wanting in you're wanting what
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I am not offering what I am offering you don't want,
which is to have your opinions challenged. I'm gonna say
things on the air that you might not agree with.
I'm gonna say things that you might agree with but
don't realize it and can't give voice to it. I'm
gonna say things that are gonna upset your wife or
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your mother, or your secretary or your boss. Know that
in advance. That shouldn't come as a surprise, even though
I haven't done it in a little while, because I've
gone softer of late. I'm gonna do that, and I'm
going to keep doing it, not to provoke, not because
I'm a shock jock, because I believe the truth is
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more important than people's feelings. If you can't tell the truth,
you can't be honest. If you can't offend, you can't
be honest. That was the essence of Thomas Payne's statements.
A series of them being completely honest is going to
upset people. And if you respond by saying, but I'm
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going to not listen anymore, good, But I need you
to know I'm not listening. Okay, remote, can you redo
the role and not call out Bob tomorrow so we
don't have him as absent. We just we already know
he's moved school districts. You're not with us anymore. The
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last statement I didn't get to was the commercial when
OJ said, you got to understand in the inner City,
we don't have business in our neighborhood. You know, when
I was on city council, I really dug into that,
and I talked to grocery stores. They all wanted star
but we want to Starbucks in our neighborhood. It was tried,
but when it happens, there's staff, there's violence, and so
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the business says, we're getting out of here. Did you
jump in and say no, no, no, we want that
violence prositut you said no, it's a young black man
doing it. Businesses aren't going to stay there, And that's
what you're left with. How you respond to adversity, whether
you demand exceptionalism or make excuses for failure, is going
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to determine what you end up with. It's while mommies
don't make good football coaches because Billy fumbling five times
in a row, Mommy says, well, he's doing his best.
Nick Saban gets in his head and before you know it,
he's got stick them. He's holding that ball so tight
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it ain't come and loose. When you explain things away,
excuse things away, you end up perpetuating that and making
it worse. George Zimmerman was scoffed at as this over
the top neighborhood patrol guy in an association that had
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an over the top neighborhood patrol. And that's why they
don't have gang banging in the neighborhood. Because they don't
have their own police force. They have to do it themselves.
And that was laughed at. But that's what that's what
middle class neighborhoods have taken to doing. It's a broken
pain theory. You don't allow individuals to be picked off
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by the gang bangers. You aggressively patrol your own streets.
When I hear someone say as OJ did that, you
know we don't have businesses in our black community. That's true,
and that's tragic. Let's start. Let's start with where we
can all agree. It's a real bummer that many blacks
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in America live in majority, if not exclusively, black neighborhoods
that have high crime and poor schools and businesses around.
Let's come a bummer. You know, you'd like to be
able to stop and get a cup of coffee. You'd
like to be able to stop and get something to eat,
a cafe. You like to be able to walk up
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to something if there's but you don't have that, Well,
why don't you have it? Because of racism? No, racism.
Commerce is green. It only wants money. They're typically our businesses.
They'll be a check cashing shop, There'll be a fried
chicken joint. There may be a you buy we fry
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shrimp place, and there may be because there's a brave bug,
greedy Asian owned convenience store, and that's all there will be.
We don't have nice things in our neighborhood. Okay, all right,
we'll have grocery stores. Look at how many grocery stores
have opened and closed in inner cities in the last
ten twenty years. There was a big movement. There was
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free money for it. The government would loan them money
to do it. Businesses didn't want to come out and
say we're closed. They closed and goes see, y'a, I
don't want to serve black people. No, we don't want
our employees to get shot. And our employees won't show
up to work because they're getting jacked every day. The
theft was through the roof. Well, how does that happen?
How come nobody stops it? You can't tell me that
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everybody coming in and doing this, nobody knows who they are.
How come that doesn't happen on the other side of town.
But it's happening. And when it's happening, people are going
to respond and the dollars are going to flee. That's
what's happening. Dunkin donut franchises in Chicago are now installing
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bulletproof glass after a record six hundred and fifty three
restaurant burglaries in twenty twenty four. Listen to this.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Look how they taking money at dunkin Donuts shall Like,
come on, man, what is this? It's crazy straight bulletproof
glass through the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I mean, you can't even breathe on these people. Look
how see what this is? This is a professional seal.
Like you can't even talk to these people.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Bar, I appreciate you mane.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Piitting up every day and singing something like this, Bro,
that do something to your mental output. They tell you
like this is how you feed animals in a zoo
gang Like that's pretty much what it's telling your mentality, Like.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I don't I just say I don't trust you. You
feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
At what point do we be like we tied of
getting treated like animals, tried to getting treated like this,
like bro, like you telling me I can't even hand
you my money game like bro, Like.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
The people who be owning these don't be for the community.
They don't be from the city.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
You grow up, imagine you see this every day for
your whole life, and then you go to someplace else
and you see them handing the money, you gonna think
something wrong with you.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Gang like it's it's crazy mentality. So the guy who
owns that page is called Rickoff an impact. You know,
I gotta wonder, do you really believe? You genuinely Let's
be honest. Okay, let's cut the crap. You you really
think people go to all these links to spend all
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this money on security measures in this neighborhood but not
across town because they hate black people. You really believe that.
You really think this is their way of insulting black people.
Open a store yourself, Open a store yourself, Ask the
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small business owner, the black small business owner, what he thinks.
Open a store yourself. Tell me how it goes. If right,
let's make this subjunctive. Let's make this conditional hypothetical. If
there are more stick ups at a store in the
black neighborhood committed by black patrons than there are across
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town in the predominantly white neighborhood, would that make it
okay to put the bulletproof glass? If you were a
black owner, would you say, well, I don't mind that
pistol in my face as long as a hand holding
it is black, because I shan't insult your skin color
by putting a barrier between me and you, knowing that
you're tweaking and you might blast my head off because
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we've had three Indian owned convenience stores killed in the
last two years. But I don't care because I don't
want to offend anybody. Really, I've heard all these arguments
the schools are failing because of the white people, and
then what happened. You bring in this black guy, Mike
Miles to be the superintendent, and all we heard was
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how he's hurting the kids, hurting the kids, hurting the kids.
On Monday of this week, five former HISD employees pled
guilty to a pay for play scheme stealing money from
the school district, all of them black, and not a
word one. It's a broken culture. Our culture is a
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broken culture that has said, when it's black, just don't
say anything and just do this over here because you
don't want to upset them, and hopefully we can all
just get along and you won't need any government employee. Hopefully,
hopefully it'll all just kind of keep itself together because
we don't want to confront it, because we don't want
to upset people because there are certain people who have
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learned that if you scream loud enough, you're going to
get it free. If you scream loud enough, you're going
to get hired. If you scream loud enough, you'll get
your job back. If you scream loud enough, you'll get
released after committing a murder. If you scream loud enough,
you'll get elected. Well, you think everybody else in society
isn't see what's seeing what's happening, and they go, oh,
that's good. We like that we're falling, declining into a
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third world country. We really like this, We really enjoy
and appreciate this. When we see the videos of you know,
electronics store being raided and all this stuff, and I
think to myself, you know what, maybe we had slavery,
but we sure are making progress today. Nobody's thinking that
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because everybody is afraid. And by the way, the problem
is not just the violent thug. The problem is every
single person, white and black, who refuses to say anything
about it. Who knew all these people supported Trump, who
knew all these people hated the government waste so people
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came out and said something about it. Michael Berry all back.
Huh okay, Well, if he calls back, I'll turn my
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mic off and let him make his point. It is
not my intention to disagree with someone's position, and I
do do it passionately. I understand that it's nothing personal.
I've come to learn it can seem a bit overbearing,
but it is not my intention for some want to
state their position and then me go back and undercut it.
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If he wants to call back, I will just simply
let him make his his points if he feels that
I have said something that is untrue. Seven one three
nine nine nine one thousand seven one three nine nine
nine one thousand. It breaks my heart for this country,
It really does it. It is. It is a really
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awful thing. What has happened in this country, so many things.
How many young black kids are in an apartment with
no furniture that the government is paying for and mom
is turning tricks and there's no one there for them.
That's awful. It's horrible. The only thing worse that nobody
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will talk about it is it happening with white kids
and Hispanic kids. Yes, but not nearly to the extent.
How many young black men are shooting each other. But
that's okay. I mean, as Jesse said, that's just Miller time.
How many young black kids are getting through school and
can't don't have the skill set to compete. But I'm
the bad guy for pointing it out instead of demanding
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higher standards. Why is it? It was a guy the
other day when the Cougar's lost, he said, I'm done
with the Cougars. Never gonna root for them again. Fifty
three years I've rooted for them and they lose like this,
I'm done. I thought, well, that's weird. So two minutes ago,
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if when he elevates, if there's nobody out to block
the shot, he elevates, shoots, strokes that shot and they
make it. You love the school and you'd give them
your kidney. You love that school, you love that team,
you love everything about them. Whatever you guys need, I'm
gonna go spend my heart earned money. I'm gonna get
a jersey, I'm gonna put a sticker on my vehicle.
I'm gonna tell everybody. I'm gonna post about it. I
love them, I love them, I love I love them.
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They are me and I am them, and we're together.
And this is deep and abiding love, but because the
other player bested him on that one play and they
didn't score more points than the other team, you hate
them and you want nothing to do with them. Again,
on a profound level, think about this for more. It's
the silliness of sports fandom. We start there. But let
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me let me do you the disfavor of assuming you're
being serious. Let's take your words at face value. What
you've just told me is he wasn't good enough to
win that game. And when you root for somebody, you
want them to win because then you win. Right, That's
why we struck when our team won. You didn't throw it,
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catch it, kick it, tackle, but you rooted for the
team that won. You picked correctly, You had an affinity
with the right jersey, whether you went to school there
or just saw him on TV. Right. Likewise, when that
team loses, that's an insult to you. You bear shame.
There is embarrassment to you because you picked and your
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team lost, and now someone's going to taunt you and
you want nothing to do with it. So you're gonna
go find a team that's definitely gonna win, and you're
gonna root for them because you want the feeling of winning,
because you don't get to win a lot in life,
but you could have won this time, and they let
you down. They stole that from you, and they did
it on purpose. They didn't want to win. They wanted
to lose. Those kids have put thousands of hours in,
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They've sacrificed everything to get here, and they chose to lose.
They wanted to lose. They preferred to lose. Losing was
more fun, No, of course not. They wanted it more
than you did. They wanted it so desperately. We would
have changed their lives. They would get a ring, they
would have bragging rights, they would be in the books,
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they would do more interviews, they would make more money,
they would have celebrity. They would get more girls, which
is what really matters at twenty one, right, maybe rock stars,
they wanted it more than you did. You've never worked
so hard. You've never worked a day in your life
the way they've worked months at a time to get
to that point. You've never suffered. Every one of them
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ankles hurt, their fingers hurt, their neck hurts, their back hurts,
their eye sockets path blown out to have surgery after
the season, their hamstring hurts, every time they come up
and down the court, their toes are gnarled, they're in extreme,
excruciating pain, and they put it aside because they want
to win. And you're up there, eight beers in pissing
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your pants, aggravated that the shot didn't go in.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Again.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
All right, but let's take that to a logical extreme.
You want them to win. What is winning scoring more
points than the other team so that when the last
buzzer rings, you have more points. You want them to
win so much that you're willing to tell them to
be better, to do something differently, to work harder, to
build a better team, to employ new tactics. But you
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wouldn't dare say that what we ought to do. Yeah,
it's let's ope, let's set up a black owned business,
and let's set up a neighborhood patrol, and let's get
local law enforcement involved, because at some point, see, here's
the problem with crime in the hood. The person who
is caught for committing the crime is going to be black.
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And here is the social breakdown that no one will
ever say. Nobody wants to say, punish a black man
who's committed a crime. They don't want to do it.
Blacks will hide from that fact. And that's why you'll
see the mama, her daughter's just been murdered by domestic disserbent.
Eight of them. He's out, he's cut the thing now
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he's killed her, and she's like, my girl, my baby girl,
he killed my baby girl. Nobody black will say anything like, yeah,
he's a black, and uh, it's so force and let's
just keep on moving on a road. See, we can't
talk about George Floyd. Well what wait? What what about
when the guy that goes in and robs the or
robs the store or shoots the store up as black?
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Nobody wants to say anything about it. And then you
got some poor comp he's the one got arrest him,
and you arrest one hundred black dudes. One of them's
going George Floyd. One of them's gonna fight you till
the death. One of them's got a brother in law
who's an attorney. One of them's got kwant lex on
speed dive. It's gonna happen. And there you are and
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you're not allowed to talk. You're suspended with pay, Your
wife and kids are scared. They dots you. Everybody knows
where you live and this is going on every day.
We just keep letting it go on. This is what
and this is good for black people. See, this is
good for black people because if you don't ever call
out the black criminal, then everything is good. But the
black criminal's victim is black. You can't put any business.
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Nobody wants to put businesses in black neighborhoods. Black kids
are only seeing people shot in their neighborhoods. We're only
electing Sylvester Turner and Rodney Elysis and Sheila Jackson Leeze.
And I'm the bad guy. Okay. I feel like al Pacino,
you know, and scarface being taken out of the restaurant.
(31:14):
But I set my piece. RJ called up to defend me.
I couldn't let that happen because they're like, oh, he
got that black dude on call bar and tell him
he's all right. I don't need a black dude to
tell me I'm all right. But I do love you, RJ.
Thank you. And it ain't racial with OJ, It's about truth.
You tell me you might not like it, that's racist, Okay,
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what about it's racist? Well, just racist here we are, okay,
keep going. This dude sent me an email being disappointed
and Dunkin Donuts
It's that time. Time, time, luck and load. The Michael
Varry Show is on the air. To the phone lines,
(00:26):
we go, Oh, James, you are on the Michael Berry Show.
Welcome sir, Well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Mike. Well, Mike, I'm a long time listener.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I just feel like you're going a little too far
with this North Texas situation.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Okay, tell me why.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, I mean, when I first heard the situation, you know,
we're saying the blacks are stabbing and the boiler terrified,
and you know, new details are coming out that he
was bullied, you know, and I don't know the whole story,
but I feel like it's a Sometimes it's a farce
on blacks. It's all the time that you farce with.
I have buddies from East Textas, the Coons, the Winning area,
(01:05):
the just the same area that you're from, Nederland, all
the area. And you know, we we play around with
race jokes all the time. But some of this crime
and I think we're using the nineties, the Boys in
the Hood, the Minutes of Society. We're using that that
that imagery from the early nineties to project that all
black neighborhoods are crime ridden. And they're they're they're necessarily
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they're not. Really the crime actually is when you mix
blacks and Hispanics. That's where the crime comes in. The
predominantly black areas don't have a lot of crime. They
have education, they have elders, and they have children. And
it's not a lot of rival gangs. The rival gangs
when you mix racist also the use they don't have anything.
They're taking out all the commercial businesses, they don't have
(01:47):
any walmarts, targets that it's just the urban. It's the
urban urban Plannet and know a lot of Blacks don't
necessarily want to leave. Its the fact they don't have
the education, the schooling, or the resources. So I feel
it's just a lot of we you know, I mean,
you pretty much lost a listener. I partly land in
Republic Grand Ranch. You know, you know, your your suggestion
really helped out a lot. With that, I'm ready to
(02:10):
pull out. I mean, those Montgomery people they're not necessarily
like that. I don't feel I don't feel, you know,
threatened or anything, but you've kind of lost the listener today, Michael.
That's what I want to tell you.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, I appreciate you, you sharing that with me. Let
me start by telling you my approach to doing the show.
I arrive every day with the intention of entertaining, engaging,
interacting with people and ideas, and I believe in the truth.
(02:43):
I also know that I might like my corn bread
different than the other person. But I'm going to tell
you how I like it, and I must tell you
that if you choose not to listen, that's perfectly understandable.
We add and subtract listeners every day, and that's the
nature of what we do. If I concerned myself with
(03:07):
whether people liked what I have to say, if I
believe it is important to say it, then I couldn't
look myself in the mirror, and I think I would
lose the respect of a lot of other listeners, black
and white alike. Now you're free to not like what
I have to say, But you've made some statements, and
(03:28):
let me respond to those. First of all, you don't
know if the black kid who stabbed the white kid
was bullied or not. You don't know that you've heard
that because the quant LX of North Texas has said that,
the Al Sharpton of North Texas has said that, and
there are people who are complete Charlattan grifters, who put
(03:52):
on a tie from Soup Mart and get in front
of the camera and talk in that style and try
to tried to harken back to the civil rights movement
and make people think that blacks are being abused and
that's why this kid got stabbed to death is because
(04:13):
this black guy's being abused somehow. These are people who
will lie, cheat steel. They are knaves. I've watched Sheila
Jackson Lee do it. I watched Sylvester Turner do it.
These are people who will make claims. I watched the
George Floyd case rollout, and the fact of the matter is,
oh j And I'm sure you know this, whether you
(04:34):
admit it or not. Most white people have been so
maumowed into this in this country, into submission that y'all
think that's progress. And if anyone doesn't know what mau
mawing means, it's a verb to come from the Mau
Mau revolution that Barack Obama's father was a part of
in Kenya that swept through eastern Africa, and it was
(04:59):
a a very angry, very violent revolution of black African
natives who were throwing off the yoke of British imperialism.
They were tired of the white man. They didn't want
Cecil Roads, they didn't want Kipling, they didn't want Churchill.
They did not want the English occupation. It wasn't just English.
(05:24):
There was the French. There were the Belgians in the Congo,
there were the French in Cameroon. But they wanted Africa
for Africa. Understandable. The Indians wanted the same thing, they
just took a different approach with that. I don't have
a problem. The means by which they took back power,
just as in Cuba, was one of great violence. The
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whites who remained were basically subjugated in a reverse reversal
of power, and that term came to be used here
for the menace that was imposed upon whites in public
life by the threat of violence of groups like the
Black Panthers. All of those things are facts. You don't
have to like them, but you cannot keep thinking that.
(06:11):
You can feign indignance and white people will not state
the truth. Failure to be honest about things like this
has plunged us deeper into problems. Because I'll tell you this,
when I'm with a group of blacks, and they feel
very comfortable with me because we go back twenty years
(06:33):
or more and somebody will make a statement about something
that is an internacine, intercommunity, intra community issue, whether it's
ashy elbows or skin or some kind of black secret.
They'll say, oh, y'all, don't say that, Michael Logo, tell
(06:53):
the white people, we don't want the white people knowing.
And it's a joke and we all laugh, right, But
there's also talk that is held amongst blacks that knows
that OJ committed to murder right, they know, they know
that knows that George Floyd was a drughead, that he
wasn't held down to death, that knows that Jesse Jackson
(07:18):
is a complete charlatan who's out to rip everybody off
and doesn't believe a word he says. It's no, Well,
I'm gonna tell you something else. White people know things
too that they don't say across the tracks. And you
know what happened. You know who gets hurt? OJ, You
get hurt. My kids get hurt when somebody sees you
or my kids walk into a workplace and they go,
(07:41):
I ain't gonna say a word, but I ain't gonna
hire him. I ain't gonna say a word, but I'm
not gonna trust him because I've seen you can't trust
those people. The minute something goes wrong, they'll say that
the guy who stabbed the other kid, that he was
a victim. They'll hang together. That's what they do. They'll
lie cheap, they'll support George Floyd. We have to be honest, right.
(08:03):
The problem is not black in Hispanic The problem is
black home black. And the reason there aren't any commercial
businesses is because there's pilfering and stealing at those businesses
and they can't succeed there. We ought to make that
stop and then the businesses will come back. You know,
we got an email doing the break from our fellows.
(08:25):
I'm a Vietnam veteran. I'm not listening anymore. Your service
in Vietnam is appreciated it, but I'm not sure how
that's relevant to where we're going. Let me see why
he's not listening anymore. He's not listening because I said
that if you get COVID or die of COVID after
(08:45):
having taken the VACS, then that is poetic justice. It's
not what I said. I said those who pushed the vacs.
That is Fauci and Biden. I do hope they get COVID.
I do hope it takes them down. You don't need
to tell me that's evil or devilish or not Christian.
I understand I have family members who died from taking
(09:08):
that shot. I feel pretty passionately about it. You're free
to have your opinion. You're free to forgive, forget, justify, judge,
But I'm not changing my position. My wife and kids
took that stupid thing. You think I want people to
die from that. But the bigger issue is not the
COVID shot. The bigger issue is this, As I wrote
(09:28):
to the guy, you misunderstood what I said. Here's what
I said, and here's what I intended. But if you
say you're not listening ever again because I said something
with which you disagree, I want to be as clear
as I possibly can. If I'm left with three people listening,
but there are three honest to goodness, truth seeking, honorable, honest,
(09:52):
open minded, thoughtful people, I consider that better. I don't
listen to other shows. But we've all heard it. We've
all heard the pandering, the jingoistic patriotism, the jingoistic manhood,
(10:12):
We've all heard it. If the only reason you listen
to our show is you agree one hundred percent with
what I say, why are you listening honestly for an
affirmation of what you already believe? That feels weird. The
old line, if we agree on everything one of us
isn't necessary to me. The interesting parts are where we disagree.
(10:36):
Why I disagree? Shot, I'm not gonna listen. Look, I
know this sounds arrogant, but why not be honest? You
not listening is not enough to make a difference. Our
show is not sold on ratings. Our ratings are great.
Our show is sold on the basis that people who
sponsor the show spend a lot of money on it
(10:58):
because they know that our listener it's a qualitative not
a quantitative back They don't want everybody groupon didn't end.
Groupon didn't fall apart because nobody came to the restaurant.
Groupon fell apart because everybody came to the restaurant. It
was just all the wrong kind of people. Houston Restaurant
Week is not a bust because people don't come out
(11:21):
to eat at a restaurant that would normally be one
hundred dollars per person for a twenty dollars that goes
to charity. Houston Restaurant Week is a bust because you
find out that those people coming out there that you're
not gonna make any money on, they're not samplers that
you want to come back. They're the deal seekers. They
eat half their meal and send it back. They show
(11:41):
up drunk, They stand up and stagger through the aisles,
They argue with your staff, they humiliate your staff. They
don't tip, they spill things, They piss all over the
floor in the bathroom. The only thing worse than groupon
not or the Houston Restaurant Week, or groupon not delivering
people to your rest is they delivered too many of
(12:03):
all the wrong kind. What makes our show special is
that companies partner with us because they get the kind
of people that you you would seek out that special person.
How often is it during a transaction that you enjoy
the experience. How often is it that you are providing
(12:27):
air conditioning services or plumbing or roofing or whatever else
and you feel the need when you're done to send
me an email because you just talked to the most
interesting guy ever. That's where our listener is. You passed
up nine houses to get there, and eight of those
nine you don't want to do that roof. You do
not want to have to argue. You do not want
(12:48):
to worry he's going to sue you. You do not want
to warr he's going to threaten. You don't where you're
gonna call the cops. You don't know where he's going
to show up or not show up tomorrow. So if
you're that person, you got me fed up. You don't
get me, And that's okay. I say this all the time.
Not every marriage works. Hey, we're not meant to be together.
I'm not offering what you're wanting in you're wanting what
(13:12):
I am not offering what I am offering you don't want,
which is to have your opinions challenged. I'm gonna say
things on the air that you might not agree with.
I'm gonna say things that you might agree with but
don't realize it and can't give voice to it. I'm
gonna say things that are gonna upset your wife or
(13:33):
your mother, or your secretary or your boss. Know that
in advance. That shouldn't come as a surprise, even though
I haven't done it in a little while, because I've
gone softer of late. I'm gonna do that, and I'm
going to keep doing it, not to provoke, not because
I'm a shock jock, because I believe the truth is
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more important than people's feelings. If you can't tell the truth,
you can't be honest. If you can't offend, you can't
be honest. That was the essence of Thomas Payne's statements.
A series of them being completely honest is going to
upset people. And if you respond by saying, but I'm
(14:16):
going to not listen anymore, good, But I need you
to know I'm not listening. Okay, remote, can you redo
the role and not call out Bob tomorrow so we
don't have him as absent. We just we already know
he's moved school districts. You're not with us anymore. The
(14:38):
last statement I didn't get to was the commercial when
OJ said, you got to understand in the inner City,
we don't have business in our neighborhood. You know, when
I was on city council, I really dug into that,
and I talked to grocery stores. They all wanted star
but we want to Starbucks in our neighborhood. It was tried,
but when it happens, there's staff, there's violence, and so
(15:00):
the business says, we're getting out of here. Did you
jump in and say no, no, no, we want that
violence prositut you said no, it's a young black man
doing it. Businesses aren't going to stay there, And that's
what you're left with. How you respond to adversity, whether
you demand exceptionalism or make excuses for failure, is going
(15:20):
to determine what you end up with. It's while mommies
don't make good football coaches because Billy fumbling five times
in a row, Mommy says, well, he's doing his best.
Nick Saban gets in his head and before you know it,
he's got stick them. He's holding that ball so tight
(15:41):
it ain't come and loose. When you explain things away,
excuse things away, you end up perpetuating that and making
it worse. George Zimmerman was scoffed at as this over
the top neighborhood patrol guy in an association that had
(16:04):
an over the top neighborhood patrol. And that's why they
don't have gang banging in the neighborhood. Because they don't
have their own police force. They have to do it themselves.
And that was laughed at. But that's what that's what
middle class neighborhoods have taken to doing. It's a broken
pain theory. You don't allow individuals to be picked off
(16:26):
by the gang bangers. You aggressively patrol your own streets.
When I hear someone say as OJ did that, you
know we don't have businesses in our black community. That's true,
and that's tragic. Let's start. Let's start with where we
can all agree. It's a real bummer that many blacks
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in America live in majority, if not exclusively, black neighborhoods
that have high crime and poor schools and businesses around.
Let's come a bummer. You know, you'd like to be
able to stop and get a cup of coffee. You'd
like to be able to stop and get something to eat,
a cafe. You like to be able to walk up
(17:09):
to something if there's but you don't have that, Well,
why don't you have it? Because of racism? No, racism.
Commerce is green. It only wants money. They're typically our businesses.
They'll be a check cashing shop, There'll be a fried
chicken joint. There may be a you buy we fry
(17:33):
shrimp place, and there may be because there's a brave bug,
greedy Asian owned convenience store, and that's all there will be.
We don't have nice things in our neighborhood. Okay, all right,
we'll have grocery stores. Look at how many grocery stores
have opened and closed in inner cities in the last
ten twenty years. There was a big movement. There was
(17:55):
free money for it. The government would loan them money
to do it. Businesses didn't want to come out and
say we're closed. They closed and goes see, y'a, I
don't want to serve black people. No, we don't want
our employees to get shot. And our employees won't show
up to work because they're getting jacked every day. The
theft was through the roof. Well, how does that happen?
How come nobody stops it? You can't tell me that
(18:18):
everybody coming in and doing this, nobody knows who they are.
How come that doesn't happen on the other side of town.
But it's happening. And when it's happening, people are going
to respond and the dollars are going to flee. That's
what's happening. Dunkin donut franchises in Chicago are now installing
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bulletproof glass after a record six hundred and fifty three
restaurant burglaries in twenty twenty four. Listen to this.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Look how they taking money at dunkin Donuts shall Like,
come on, man, what is this? It's crazy straight bulletproof
glass through the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I mean, you can't even breathe on these people. Look
how see what this is? This is a professional seal.
Like you can't even talk to these people.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Bar, I appreciate you mane.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Piitting up every day and singing something like this, Bro,
that do something to your mental output. They tell you
like this is how you feed animals in a zoo
gang Like that's pretty much what it's telling your mentality, Like.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I don't I just say I don't trust you. You
feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
At what point do we be like we tied of
getting treated like animals, tried to getting treated like this,
like bro, like you telling me I can't even hand
you my money game like bro, Like.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
The people who be owning these don't be for the community.
They don't be from the city.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
You grow up, imagine you see this every day for
your whole life, and then you go to someplace else
and you see them handing the money, you gonna think
something wrong with you.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Gang like it's it's crazy mentality. So the guy who
owns that page is called Rickoff an impact. You know,
I gotta wonder, do you really believe? You genuinely Let's
be honest. Okay, let's cut the crap. You you really
think people go to all these links to spend all
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this money on security measures in this neighborhood but not
across town because they hate black people. You really believe that.
You really think this is their way of insulting black people.
Open a store yourself, Open a store yourself, Ask the
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small business owner, the black small business owner, what he thinks.
Open a store yourself. Tell me how it goes. If right,
let's make this subjunctive. Let's make this conditional hypothetical. If
there are more stick ups at a store in the
black neighborhood committed by black patrons than there are across
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town in the predominantly white neighborhood, would that make it
okay to put the bulletproof glass? If you were a
black owner, would you say, well, I don't mind that
pistol in my face as long as a hand holding
it is black, because I shan't insult your skin color
by putting a barrier between me and you, knowing that
you're tweaking and you might blast my head off because
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we've had three Indian owned convenience stores killed in the
last two years. But I don't care because I don't
want to offend anybody. Really, I've heard all these arguments
the schools are failing because of the white people, and
then what happened. You bring in this black guy, Mike
Miles to be the superintendent, and all we heard was
(21:31):
how he's hurting the kids, hurting the kids, hurting the kids.
On Monday of this week, five former HISD employees pled
guilty to a pay for play scheme stealing money from
the school district, all of them black, and not a
word one. It's a broken culture. Our culture is a
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broken culture that has said, when it's black, just don't
say anything and just do this over here because you
don't want to upset them, and hopefully we can all
just get along and you won't need any government employee. Hopefully,
hopefully it'll all just kind of keep itself together because
we don't want to confront it, because we don't want
to upset people because there are certain people who have
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learned that if you scream loud enough, you're going to
get it free. If you scream loud enough, you're going
to get hired. If you scream loud enough, you'll get
your job back. If you scream loud enough, you'll get
released after committing a murder. If you scream loud enough,
you'll get elected. Well, you think everybody else in society
isn't see what's seeing what's happening, and they go, oh,
that's good. We like that we're falling, declining into a
(22:38):
third world country. We really like this, We really enjoy
and appreciate this. When we see the videos of you know,
electronics store being raided and all this stuff, and I
think to myself, you know what, maybe we had slavery,
but we sure are making progress today. Nobody's thinking that
(22:58):
because everybody is afraid. And by the way, the problem
is not just the violent thug. The problem is every
single person, white and black, who refuses to say anything
about it. Who knew all these people supported Trump, who
knew all these people hated the government waste so people
(23:21):
came out and said something about it. Michael Berry all back.
Huh okay, Well, if he calls back, I'll turn my
(23:42):
mic off and let him make his point. It is
not my intention to disagree with someone's position, and I
do do it passionately. I understand that it's nothing personal.
I've come to learn it can seem a bit overbearing,
but it is not my intention for some want to
state their position and then me go back and undercut it.
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If he wants to call back, I will just simply
let him make his his points if he feels that
I have said something that is untrue. Seven one three
nine nine nine one thousand seven one three nine nine
nine one thousand. It breaks my heart for this country,
It really does it. It is. It is a really
(24:27):
awful thing. What has happened in this country, so many things.
How many young black kids are in an apartment with
no furniture that the government is paying for and mom
is turning tricks and there's no one there for them.
That's awful. It's horrible. The only thing worse that nobody
(24:48):
will talk about it is it happening with white kids
and Hispanic kids. Yes, but not nearly to the extent.
How many young black men are shooting each other. But
that's okay. I mean, as Jesse said, that's just Miller time.
How many young black kids are getting through school and
can't don't have the skill set to compete. But I'm
the bad guy for pointing it out instead of demanding
(25:11):
higher standards. Why is it? It was a guy the
other day when the Cougar's lost, he said, I'm done
with the Cougars. Never gonna root for them again. Fifty
three years I've rooted for them and they lose like this,
I'm done. I thought, well, that's weird. So two minutes ago,
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if when he elevates, if there's nobody out to block
the shot, he elevates, shoots, strokes that shot and they
make it. You love the school and you'd give them
your kidney. You love that school, you love that team,
you love everything about them. Whatever you guys need, I'm
gonna go spend my heart earned money. I'm gonna get
a jersey, I'm gonna put a sticker on my vehicle.
I'm gonna tell everybody. I'm gonna post about it. I
love them, I love them, I love I love them.
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They are me and I am them, and we're together.
And this is deep and abiding love, but because the
other player bested him on that one play and they
didn't score more points than the other team, you hate
them and you want nothing to do with them. Again,
on a profound level, think about this for more. It's
the silliness of sports fandom. We start there. But let
(26:16):
me let me do you the disfavor of assuming you're
being serious. Let's take your words at face value. What
you've just told me is he wasn't good enough to
win that game. And when you root for somebody, you
want them to win because then you win. Right, That's
why we struck when our team won. You didn't throw it,
(26:38):
catch it, kick it, tackle, but you rooted for the
team that won. You picked correctly, You had an affinity
with the right jersey, whether you went to school there
or just saw him on TV. Right. Likewise, when that
team loses, that's an insult to you. You bear shame.
There is embarrassment to you because you picked and your
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team lost, and now someone's going to taunt you and
you want nothing to do with it. So you're gonna
go find a team that's definitely gonna win, and you're
gonna root for them because you want the feeling of winning,
because you don't get to win a lot in life,
but you could have won this time, and they let
you down. They stole that from you, and they did
it on purpose. They didn't want to win. They wanted
to lose. Those kids have put thousands of hours in,
(27:24):
They've sacrificed everything to get here, and they chose to lose.
They wanted to lose. They preferred to lose. Losing was
more fun, No, of course not. They wanted it more
than you did. They wanted it so desperately. We would
have changed their lives. They would get a ring, they
would have bragging rights, they would be in the books,
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they would do more interviews, they would make more money,
they would have celebrity. They would get more girls, which
is what really matters at twenty one, right, maybe rock stars,
they wanted it more than you did. You've never worked
so hard. You've never worked a day in your life
the way they've worked months at a time to get
to that point. You've never suffered. Every one of them
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ankles hurt, their fingers hurt, their neck hurts, their back hurts,
their eye sockets path blown out to have surgery after
the season, their hamstring hurts, every time they come up
and down the court, their toes are gnarled, they're in extreme,
excruciating pain, and they put it aside because they want
to win. And you're up there, eight beers in pissing
(28:25):
your pants, aggravated that the shot didn't go in.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Again.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
All right, but let's take that to a logical extreme.
You want them to win. What is winning scoring more
points than the other team so that when the last
buzzer rings, you have more points. You want them to
win so much that you're willing to tell them to
be better, to do something differently, to work harder, to
build a better team, to employ new tactics. But you
(28:56):
wouldn't dare say that what we ought to do. Yeah,
it's let's ope, let's set up a black owned business,
and let's set up a neighborhood patrol, and let's get
local law enforcement involved, because at some point, see, here's
the problem with crime in the hood. The person who
is caught for committing the crime is going to be black.
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And here is the social breakdown that no one will
ever say. Nobody wants to say, punish a black man
who's committed a crime. They don't want to do it.
Blacks will hide from that fact. And that's why you'll
see the mama, her daughter's just been murdered by domestic disserbent.
Eight of them. He's out, he's cut the thing now
(29:41):
he's killed her, and she's like, my girl, my baby girl,
he killed my baby girl. Nobody black will say anything like, yeah,
he's a black, and uh, it's so force and let's
just keep on moving on a road. See, we can't
talk about George Floyd. Well what wait? What what about
when the guy that goes in and robs the or
robs the store or shoots the store up as black?
(30:05):
Nobody wants to say anything about it. And then you
got some poor comp he's the one got arrest him,
and you arrest one hundred black dudes. One of them's
going George Floyd. One of them's gonna fight you till
the death. One of them's got a brother in law
who's an attorney. One of them's got kwant lex on
speed dive. It's gonna happen. And there you are and
(30:27):
you're not allowed to talk. You're suspended with pay, Your
wife and kids are scared. They dots you. Everybody knows
where you live and this is going on every day.
We just keep letting it go on. This is what
and this is good for black people. See, this is
good for black people because if you don't ever call
out the black criminal, then everything is good. But the
black criminal's victim is black. You can't put any business.
(30:49):
Nobody wants to put businesses in black neighborhoods. Black kids
are only seeing people shot in their neighborhoods. We're only
electing Sylvester Turner and Rodney Elysis and Sheila Jackson Leeze.
And I'm the bad guy. Okay. I feel like al Pacino,
you know, and scarface being taken out of the restaurant.
(31:14):
But I set my piece. RJ called up to defend me.
I couldn't let that happen because they're like, oh, he
got that black dude on call bar and tell him
he's all right. I don't need a black dude to
tell me I'm all right. But I do love you, RJ.
Thank you. And it ain't racial with OJ, It's about truth.
You tell me you might not like it, that's racist, Okay,
(31:35):
what about it's racist? Well, just racist here we are, okay,
keep going. This dude sent me an email being disappointed
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