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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Verry Show is.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
On the air.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's Charlie from BlackBerrys Motor. I could feel a good
one coming on. It's the Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
And I saw a meme this week and I thought
it was really good, really really wise and said break.
Many people believe that the grass is greener on the
other side, but actually the grass.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Is greener where you water it.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
And I wish I was at a black church live
right now, because somebody would go as a an outward
show of boy, you got to with that one. That
one's clever. I've always liked the ooh at a black church.
I've spoken at Black churches many times over the years,
particularly as a candidate. But it's a much more interactive experience.

(01:13):
If you've ever heard Ralphie May on the Black Movie Theater,
it is also a very It's just a different culture.
Some people are uncomfortable if you point out that there
are cultural differences. There is nothing to be uncomfortable about
with that. If you don't think my wife, who spent
her first twenty one years in India, does some things

(01:33):
differently than I do because I spent my first twenty
one years in a trailer park. If you don't think
that we have some different ways we do things, then
you're in it. You're Cleopatra Ramon and you're to Queen
of denial. You don't our differences don't need to be
something we're ashamed of. Our differences don't need to be
something we deny. The Left has taught you that celebrate

(01:58):
your differences, have fun with them, make jokes about him.
You know, my great, my great sadness for this country
is how many you know you think about in the
history of mankind, people toiled, they suffered it.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
We didn't. It's only yesterday we figured out that if.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
We've got to cut your leg off, we can at
least put you under so you don't have to have
you don't have to feel it being sawed off. Or
if we take a tooth out, you don't have to
sit there wishing you could die over the tooth.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
We can put you under. Hell, I just went under.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
My dentist put me under a couple of weeks ago
because I was overdue for a deep clean. And that's
a true story. I was overdue for a deep clean,
and I told him was so bad that if I
could get a little sedation.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
And he said, you got it.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
And I woke up from a nap and I put
my tongue on my teeth, and ah, I feel so good.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Truth be told, I'm not proud of this.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
I needed a deep clean because my mother every six months.
We didn't have any more, but my mother took us
to the dentist every six months because good dental care
because her mother lost our teeth was important to her.
So my mom died September nineteenth and I realized I
hadn't been taking good care of my teeth. I needed
to go to the dentist. And I took from September
nineteenth until a few weeks ago to finally bring myself

(03:16):
to go see my show sponsor and get my teeth
taken care of. That's sad or what we can I say.
But throughout history, people didn't live very long, and while
they were alive, it was mostly suffering and pain and
filth and disease. We live in such a happy time
relative to that. We got air conditioning, and we've got sedation,

(03:38):
and we got food, and yet we're more miserable than
people have ever been. It's a state of mind it's
a question of what you're watering. So I'm going to
tell you today water how wonderful things are today. Donald
Trump is actually doing what he promised, and that upsets
the left, and the left gets upset, and you get
upset because they're upset. You don't need to be upset.

(03:58):
You need to drink up those tears. The fact that
the left is upset. You know, people say to me,
you know when they die, they're gonna say bad things
about you, Michael, and I say, I hope. So that's
how I know I succeeded. If they're not, If the
Left is not glad when I'm dead, then I didn't
do my job. And that's how I look at it.
So you don't need to cry for me, Argentina. All right,

(04:20):
let's get a started. Phone lines were open seven one
three nine nine nine one thousand, seven one three nine
nine nine one thousand. If you can't get through, you
can always leave a message and to get a start,
as we always do a courtesy the greatest executive producer
and all the land chatted Cooney Knakanishi your week in review.
Let's check in on drunk Mark. Drunk Mark, are you drunk.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Here for I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
I'm dead serious. How can you be drunk twenty four
to seven?

Speaker 5 (04:48):
I could walk around pass killed, maybe kill test. Look
did you get in my email?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Mark?

Speaker 4 (04:54):
You're becoming tedious? What do you want to do? Are
you going to go get a driver's last?

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Nay?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Are you going to show up to court?

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Are you going to I did get my I D
went and got my D.

Speaker 7 (05:03):
The United States has dramatically entered Israel's war against Iran.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
The American jets bomb three nuclear site tonight.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
I can report to the world that the strikes were
a spectacular military success.

Speaker 8 (05:15):
President Frump announcing a ceasefire between Iran.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
And Israel interesting and surprising and disappointing to see how
many people are rooting for that conflict not to end
as it looks like it now will, at least for
some period of time, but rather to escalate, just so
they can call it a failure for Trump.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
It's crazy and to a foot chase inside the gallery,
man jumped from the second floor and landed on the
ice rink below.

Speaker 9 (05:43):
At some point while being chased by police, the suspect
jumping over this glass barrier and onto the ice skating
rink down below, breaking both of his legs.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
That story is so good. You know how you know
a story is good. It takes on a life of
its own. News stations will continue to find reason to
go back to that story.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
Like we have Governor Greg Abbott vetoed with a lieutenant
Governor Dan Patrick's biggest priorities the band on th HC.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
This is life and death. This is life and death.
Read this destroys lives. This reaches a whole another.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Level when Dan Patrick tells you that people are gonna
die and all I ask is read research that has
not been what's happened with marijuana? By and large?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
But if it is and it's not, what do you
think has happened with alcohol?

Speaker 5 (06:30):
It gets tired? What a maroon Michael show? What an ignorandom?

Speaker 4 (06:48):
You remember the crying Indian commercial from the seventies. It
started with an Indian feather not bought, paddling his canoe
of a cree. Turned out he was Italian f a,
not Indian, but hey, the Indians got it so bad
he don't even get to play himself. When he gets out,

(07:09):
he sees trash.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
On the shore.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
And someone throws trash out of their car window and
he sheds a single tear. Remember that commercial.

Speaker 10 (07:19):
Some people have a deep probiding respect for the natural
beauty that was once this country, and some people who don't.
People starting pollution. People start right for pollution. Booklet Bucks,

(07:41):
seventeen seventy one Radio City Station, New York.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Send us some money.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
The Indian in the commercial was Iron Eyes Cody, or
so we were told. He was born Espeta Oscar de Courti.
He was an American actor of Italian descent who portrayed
Native Americans in Hollywood films, including the role of Chief
ironized in Bob Hope's The Pale Face in nineteen forty eight.

(08:11):
Lived in Hollywood, and he began to insist even in
his private life that he was Native American over time,
claiming membership and several different tribes. He would forget what
he had said. Nineteen ninety six, his half sister said
that he was of Italian ancestry, but he denied it.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
After his death.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
It was revealed that he was of Sicilian parentage and
not Native American at all. I mean, he could have
been in the Godfather movies. It's not only entertainers who
do this. The left loves to pretend they are a
member of a minority group. They love it, they get
off on it. It's their mother's milk.

Speaker 9 (08:49):
Remember, so centered, why did you list yourself as an
American Union on this Texas bar application?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Sota?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
This was about thirty years ago. And all, I am
not a tribal citizen. Tribes and only tribes determine citizenship.
When I was growing up in Oklahoma, I learned about
my family the same way most people did. My brothers

(09:17):
and I learned from our mom and our dad, and
our brothers and our sisters, and those were our family stories.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
But that said, there really is.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
An important distinction of tribal citizenship. I am not a
member of a tribe, and I have apologized for not
being more sensitive to that distinction. It's an important distinction.

Speaker 9 (09:44):
The President made the case that you have used this
part of your background to get ahead. Are you saying
that this is something you fundamentally believed about yourself, or
how do you respond to that criticism. This was a
knowing attempt to get ahead by using that claim of ancestry.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
So that is a claim that has been fully investigated,
and it has now been shown completely that nothing about
my background ever had anything to do with any job
I got in any place. It's been fully documented and

(10:19):
there's no evidence of any kind other than it had
nothing to do background.

Speaker 9 (10:26):
Are there any more documents or any more forms like
this out there that you have listed yourself as they
could come out?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
This is who I grew up believing with my brothers.
This is our family's story, and it's all consistent from
that point in time. But as I said, it's important enough.
I'm not a tribal citizen, and I should have been

(10:55):
more just more mindful of the distinction with tribal citizens
and tribal sovereignty. And that is why I apologize to
Chief Baker and why I've made a very public apology.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Forget the tribes. She's not an engine at all. Remember
the former n DOUBLEACP leader Rachel Dola's all. She wasn't black,
She was white as all get out, but she identified
as black.

Speaker 11 (11:23):
So what I say to them is, you know, I
don't give to what you guys think. You know, like
you're so far done and out of my life.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
The president of the NAACP, who we think is a
black woman, who says she's the victim of hate crimes
might not be black. That seems like a misrepresentation.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I can understand that.

Speaker 11 (11:48):
I mean, like I said, it's more important for me
to clarify that with the black community and with my
executive board than it really is to explain it to
a community that I quite frankly, I don't think you
know really understands the definitions of race and ethnicity.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
Do you think anyone within the Spokane NAACP is unclear
about your identity?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Would you identify yourself as an African American?

Speaker 11 (12:20):
I actually don't like the term African American. I prefer black,
and I would say that if you know, if I
was asked, I would definitely say that, yes, I do
consider myself to be black.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
So the reason I bring this up today, there's nothing
in the news necessarily that this is relevant to. But
I've been noodling on this idea of the mental health
problems of the left and the attempt to change reality,

(12:59):
the inner ability to live in reality, the pathological nature
of their mindset cannot be reasoned with. This is what
leads you to believe that this past weekend there was
an argument that yes, a man can get pregnant well,

(13:21):
they're talking about women who call themselves men but still
have a vagina and fallopian tubes. Okay, Well, if you
have a vagina and you're not a man, you can
take some testosterone and grow a beard.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
I think it's gross, but whatever.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
You can cut your boobs off, which they do, and
you can do what else they do, which is undergo
a horribly painful disfiguring surgery where they take a lump
of fat and muscle from your thigh, leaving you with
a massive gash, and they hang a sausage from your
but it doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
So I mean, I guess.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
It's that important that you have a bulge in your underwear.
Put a sop good grief what Ramond does. But this
is the mental health. There's more to this story coming up.
This is these people don't live in reality.

Speaker 12 (14:15):
There's more to like on Facebook, like the Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
I didn't want the week to go by with help
making reference to Carrie Lake and her appearance appearance before
the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
You got to realize the timing of this.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
It comes just days after notices of layoffs went out
to hundreds of staffers at the US Agency for Global
Media and Voice of America an eighty five percent staff reduction.
As you can imagine, the left is not happy about
these cuts. The Democrat congressman from Arizona, Greg Stanton, took

(15:05):
shots at Lake. Remember she ran for governor and I
believe the Senate there as well, so they've got a
little bit of a history. So this Congressman, Greg Stanton,
he takes shots at her and asks her to admit
that she lost her election back.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
In twenty twenty two.

Speaker 12 (15:23):
Here's what he said, Miss Lake, to regain a semblance
of your credibility. Are you finally ready to admit you
lost the twenty twenty two Arizona election.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
It saddens me that you are from Arizona and you're
okay with it.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
So yes or no questions, like.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Me that you are from Arizona.

Speaker 12 (15:42):
I think it's the answer is no reclaiming. In my time,
these are adjudicated lies. Courts of law have determined that
these are lies. These are not me saying it. You
didn't just lie to the press. You took those lies
to court and lost again and again. Every one of
your lawsuits failed, and a federal judge said that you
were furthering false narratives that blamelessly undermine public trust.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Well, Carrie Lake is nothing if not feisty. She's spicy, and.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
She punched back.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
And I got to say this was one of the
finest moments this week. This was up there with the
media member asking President Trump if the NATO chief called
him daddy.

Speaker 8 (16:29):
And I want to apologize to the people of Arizona
that we have somebody who's representing the folks in one
of our great parts of the valley that doesn't care
about the integrity of our election.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
But you weren't here. You came in late.

Speaker 8 (16:42):
And we're talking about USAGM today, the Agency for Global Media,
and how they can put out absolute, abject lies and
we can't control any We have no say over what
the editorial content is. And I would hope that you
would not be okay with that. They could literally put
out a lie about anybody here. And I know you've
been the victim of that. I know you've been the victim.

(17:04):
I remember the stories about you where they said you
had a gay lover, and those were going.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Mister chairman, chairman, can I I hoped you honor.

Speaker 13 (17:14):
What you just gave is a caution to everyone and
I moved those.

Speaker 8 (17:19):
Words visas to tell you that those kind of lies,
and you said those were lies. Those kind of lies
could be broadcast today on VOA, and you couldn't pick
up the phone Representative Stanton and call them and say, hey,
you're putting out lies about me. You would not be
able to do that because they would sue you for
breaking the firewall. So lies are being told on Voice

(17:40):
of America. It's inappropriate. You've been subjected to lies that
you said were lies about you in the media before,
and how would you like it if those lies were
put on Voice of America right now, because they could
do it and you couldn't do a thing about it.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
You couldn't stop it.

Speaker 8 (17:54):
You couldn't stop all those those lies that you said
were said about you if they went on Voice of
America today.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
You have to sit and take it.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
My favorite part of that exchange was the Democrat who
objected to her remarks about Stanton having a gay lover.
Wit a second, You're the party of inclusion, the party
of drag Queen Story Hour for children, the party that
wants to cut your kids ween are off, the party

(18:25):
that wants boys to compete in girls sports you know
that party. They just objected to Carrie Lake bringing up
rumors that one of their members may be gay. Why
are you so upset about her saying one of your members.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
May be gay?

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Gay is great, remember, and the congressman practically harumphed, we've
got to.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Protect our phony.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Belonni job, gentlemen, we must do.

Speaker 12 (18:54):
Something about this immediately, immediately.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I didn't get her oum f out of that guy,
the governor.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
MSNBC's Nicole Wallace posted a video to social media that.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
She's just gutted. That's what she said. I'm just gutted.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
I'm severely traumatized thinking about Trenda Arragua TDA gang members
being scared down in El Salvador.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
She's really really worried about the.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Gang members being scared in prison, because you know these
gang members.

Speaker 14 (19:34):
I remember the first day I read about the deportations
to El Salvador of the of the alleged Trendy A
Aqua members, for whom no evidence was ever presented that
they had anything to do with Trendy Aragua. And I
remember saying to Mike, like, I wish I didn't feel
so gutted, and I wish I could stop thinking about

(19:56):
these guys being scared in El Salvador. And then I
was somewhere I was in I was in Westchester. It's
usually a baseball trip that has mean I don't I
don't know what I was doing, but I we stopped
to get somebody to eat, and I saw the paid
ads that Homesz CURTI was doing in front of the

(20:18):
deportes who are now prisoners in.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
At Seacott, and I was gutted.

Speaker 14 (20:23):
And I think I'm sometimes scared by how much anguish
I feel about how they're treating human beings. But I
think that if you abandon the anguish, then you carry
out horrible things against human beings.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
ABC seven in Los Angeles is reporting that there is
a push in Los Angeles for a moratorium on evictions.
Why oh why would they need a moratorium on evictions?
According to ABC seven, people have suffered through COVID, a

(21:05):
bad economy, and now worst of all, ice raids.

Speaker 15 (21:11):
Tenants Union, along with some other major labor unions, are
joining forces today.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
Demanding action to protection to.

Speaker 15 (21:17):
Protect Angelino's against immigration rates. The local SEIU seven to
twenty one labor union, along with CLUE and the Tenants
union are asking the La City Council to pass an
emergency protection to help.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Families who may face.

Speaker 15 (21:31):
Eviction due to the immigration rates. The unions say many
families may not be able to cover rent due to
a family member who may have been taken by Ice,
or who have family who may not be able to
leave their homes due to fear of kidnapping. The group's
claim Latino's make up majority of renters in the city
of La.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
We also say local.

Speaker 15 (21:49):
Residents have had enough to deal with from COVID to
the economic crisis and our deadly firestorm. Now the raids
are creating unnecessary fear.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Nowadays.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
I mean, you don't know who's the call, who's an
ICE agent, who's a bounty hunter?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
And now I can be discip.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Just go kidnap people.

Speaker 16 (22:10):
No matter what your legal status. Cities, right now we
are all in fear. I had mentioned earlier. I mean
I'm a not Allied citizen, but my daughter is a
born citizen in Jesus.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Here.

Speaker 15 (22:23):
While groups are making these demands, the only city council
is looking to take action against the federal government due
to the immigration raids. Last week's seven city council members
signed a proposal asking the city attorney to take immediate
legal action to protect people from being racially profiled or
unlawfully detained. Now, the proposed lawsuit still has to head

(22:43):
the three council committees for consideration. The full Council is
expected to vote by the end of the week.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
I was the hunted, and now I'm the hunter.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Michael Barry, It's down.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
See it ends. Natasha Burger is a deep state mouthpiece.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
You'll remember she's the one who wrote the political piece
claiming that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Maybe you don't remember that, that's what she did.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
She's the one who broke the news about top secret
information claiming that Operation Midnight Hammer was not the success
that President Trump is saying it was, even though most everybody,
including folks from the Obama administration, are saying, yeah, it
was very successful. Whether you agree with it or not,
the mission was accomplished.

Speaker 7 (23:35):
And it was produced by the Defense Intelligence Agency, which
is the Pentagon's intelligence arm And it is worth noting
that it is a very early assessment. The strikes were
only a matter of days ago, and the intelligence community
is still gathering intelligence. They are still working to come
up with a full comprehensive picture of what exactly happened here,
but based on a battle damage assessment that was carried

(23:56):
out by US Central Command, essentially looking at the images
and looking at what was actually damaged, The Defense Intelligence
Agency has assessed that the core components of Aron's nuclear
program are largely intact and that Iron's nuclear program has
essentially only been set back by months now. We presented
this information to the White House for comment, and White

(24:17):
House Press Secretary Karen Lovitch she did acknowledge the existence
of this assessment, but she said in a statement that
the administration disagrees with it. She said, quote, this alleged
assessment is flat out wrong and was classified as top secret,
but was still leaked to CNN by an anonymous low
level loser in the intelligence community. The leaking of this
alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump

(24:39):
and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly
executed mission to obliterate Aron's nuclear program. Everyone knows what
happens when you drop fourteen thirty thousand pound bombs perfectly
on their targets. Total obliteration. Now, it is worth noting
here that there has been dissent, I should say, within
the intelligence community, within the Defense Commune unity about just

(25:01):
how much of an impact these massive bunkerbuster bombs would
actually have on Around's nuclear facilities.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
It was far from certain, given.

Speaker 7 (25:07):
That these bombs had never been tested in an actual
combat scenario, whether they would actually penetrate those very very
deep underground tunnels that lie underneath these nuclear facilities. And
what we are told is that as of now, this
Defense Intelligence Agency assessment, it does conclude at this point,
again it is still very early that those underground facilities,

(25:28):
including the centrifuges, including the highly enriched uranium that everyone
has been talking so much about, those are largely intact now.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Of course, this.

Speaker 7 (25:36):
Does stand at odds with what President Donald Trump and
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth had been saying in recent
days about the impact of these US military strikes. Of course,
President Trump said it was totally obliterated, and Secretary Hexth
did as well, and he actually also provided CNN with
a statement and he said that quote, based on everything
we have seen, and I've seen it all, our bombing

(25:57):
campaign obliterated Around's ability to create nuclear weapons. Our massive
bombs hit exactly the right spot at each target and
worked perfectly. The impact of those bombs is buried under
a mountain of rubble in Iran. So anyone who says
the bombs were not devastating is just trying to undermine
the president and the successful mission. Now, our sources did

(26:18):
emphasize here that there was a severe damage that was
done largely to the above ground structures at these nuclear sites.
And so there was damage done, of course by these
massive bombs, but the core components of the nuclear program,
we are told they are largely intact, and it only
set the program back by a matter of months.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and let me say this,
I've never been a Marco Rubio fan. I didn't think
he was a good senator, and I didn't think he
would be a good Secretary of State. I have been
wrong so far, and I we'll admit it, and I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
To be wrong in this case.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Here's Secretary of State Marco Rubio calling these leakers.

Speaker 13 (27:00):
Stabbers stuff about the intelligence. This is what a leaker
is telling you. The intelligence says, that's the game these
people play. They read it and then they go out
and characterize it the way they want to characterize and
their leakers this is the game they play.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
So that's number one.

Speaker 13 (27:13):
Number two, here's a fact, the conversion facility, which you
can't do a new good weapon without a conversion facility.
We can't even find where it is where it used
to be on the map. You can't even find where
it used to because the whole thing is just blackened out.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
It's gone, it's wiped out.

Speaker 13 (27:27):
Then we dropped twelve of the strongest bombs on the
planet right down.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
The hole in two places.

Speaker 13 (27:32):
Everything underneath that mountain is in bad shape. And I
refer you to the statement of the IAEA, mister Grossie.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
You know what he said.

Speaker 13 (27:39):
He said there was aron the way it looked the
day before the attack and what their nuclear program looks
like now two very different things. They are way behind
where they were just seven days ago.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Now, anything in the world can be rebuilt, but.

Speaker 13 (27:51):
Now we know where it is, and if they try
to rebuild it, we'll have options there as well. But
all this leaker stuff, these leaks are professional stabbers, that's
what they are. They go out and they read this
stuff and then they tell you.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
What it says.

Speaker 13 (28:04):
Against the law, but they characterize it for you in
a way that's absolutely false. There's no way Iran comes
to the table somehow, nothing had happen. This was complete
and total obliteration. They're in bad shape. They are way
behind today compared to where they were just seven days
ago because of what the president there.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
So the liberal media has been rooting against our boys
in bombers, against the security of the world, hoping that
the bombs that were dropped on Iran were not successful
and Iran still has nuclear capability, and so that's what

(28:41):
they've been reporting because that's what the Alatola says. Rt
McGirk is a former National Security member and he Security
Council member, sorry, and he told CNN there's this CNN
that he is confident that the centrifuge in Iran are gone.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
What we now know from that brief the first.

Speaker 17 (29:05):
Time we know it is that as it was designed
as these massive ordinance penetrators with significant computer software engineering
went directly down to those three MATA later shafts specifically
as designed and until you actually do it, we never
know if it's going to work. It worked, it seems
of work flawlessly. That is very important information. He also

(29:25):
pointed out some things we take for granted. You know,
a Patriot interceptor is traveling at three thousand miles an
hour about Mac four to hit a ballistic missile traveling
out about six thousand miles an hour Mac eight. This
is really difficult we take for granted how this stuff
all works.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
I thought that was very important lay out.

Speaker 17 (29:42):
So as I as I come out of this briefing,
I now know BDA level two. As I mentioned level
one first twenty four hours, you're looking at imagery level two.
Did the ordinance work? Did everything go as we had wanted?
The answer and that was yes. And we're now in
the phase of level three, collecting all sources of into
information and then putting that together with nuclear experts to

(30:03):
determine if they have these pieces and parts here, could
they reconstitute them, with some political analysts to say, would
the Iranians do that? What would be the restraints To
then have a comprehensive assessment of where we are, with
the objective being iron can never a amular weapon, and its.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Enrichment program has to be completely destroyed.

Speaker 17 (30:22):
I think from what I've seen, the twenty thousand centrifuges
you had about seventeen thousand in the tons, about three
thousand and four too.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
They are all completely destroyed.

Speaker 17 (30:31):
I am very confident those centrifuges are gone. The Israelis
destroyed the centrifuge manufacturing production facilities that we know of Isfahan,
which is the conversion facility, key part of the fool
site Will also appears to have been destroyed. So if
you add it up from what we're seeing, massive catastrophic
setback for Iran's program, the term of art obliterated, destroyed.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
I kind of step out of that. This is an
analytical process. It's important for the.

Speaker 17 (30:57):
Professionals now in the intelligence community be able to do
their work without political pressure and come out with their assessments.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
And we'll know soon enough.

Speaker 17 (31:05):
There's a lot of work going on here from US
intelligence agencies, from Masaud and the Israelis, from other partners.
But I thought that briefing was important. We now know
that operation that was developed over multiple multiple administrations worked
exactly as it was designed, so we didn't I didn't
know that. I couldn't have confirmed that twenty four hours ago.

(31:26):
I now know those three ventilators that went down there
and it worked that's new, and that means probably Porto
is rendered inoperable for the foreseeable future, probably forever.
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