November 14, 2025 • 31 mins
Celebrate Texas music with Ray Wylie Hubbard on his 79th birthday! Michael Berry dives into Hubbard’s journey from Oklahoma roots to Austin’s progressive country scene, sharing stories about Willie Nelson, Jerry Jeff Walker, and songwriting secrets. Plus, insights on Houston culture, local spots, and the evolution of live music.
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your skin. Got Moon. I got what we're dealing with here.
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Here's a lack of respect for the laws.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So apparently there is some soy boy. He calls himself,
I guess a leftist influencer named Bill Brooker, and he
put out his fativa list of what he calls trumpy
restaurants in Houston. In Houston, and they are common Bond Presley's.
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Presley's is the one that puts is over in the heights.
They're the ones that put the sides up on their
marquee that upsets the left so much. You know, it's
a great day on Trump's inauguration. There's nothing to them.
They're pretty basic patriotic things, and they make people in
the heights so angry. White liberals are such sad, miserable sacks.
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Federal American Grill who we've talked about, and taste of Texas.
That's the four. Let's see what he says on here.
It's in the middle of it's a TikTok video, but
I haven't seen that Maga conservative appears to support Trumps,
and I guess this is his cause. He's going to
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he's giving a speech about how these people. He's got
a real bad comb over, especially for a guy this young.
Looks like a complete dweeb. But that's usually what these
types are. A friend of mine wrote me a little
note earlier in the week. He will occasionally send his
random thoughts, and I encourage that because they're usually interesting,
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and he wrote, white liberal women are human shaped black
holes of nurturing energy. Beginners start out with unsolicited child
rearing advice to conservative moms on social media. They later
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advanced to stockpiling used dogs in five oh one c
three sanctuaries housed in their living rooms. When they reach
their final form, they push open door policies indifferent to
community damage, just like they ignore the pack of blind
senior rescue dogs destroying their sofas. It's not about the
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dog or the immigrant. It's about filling the huge void.
And that is how America lost New York City. You know,
we tend to live in bubbles, all of us, in
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one way or another. We tend to live in bubbles,
and social media particularly, but even cable television to a
lesser extent. But let's social media, the algorithm method of
giving you what you want. And everyone is so upset
about Well, everybody's done that in the course of my life.
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The top forty radio. Every market has a top forty
radio station, normally more than one, typically more than one.
And I remember when I was growing up, the top
forty radio station would play the hot songs of the day,
and you might hear them, you might hear the hot
song of the day in a day. By the time
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I was in radio in two thousand and five, they
would play the hot song of the day once an hour,
and what it meant was that a song got bigger
at a particular time because it took you sort of
went an inch wide and a mile deep of the
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public's time and attention at that moment. But it also
hastened the amount of time between. Man I really liked
this song, to please never play this song again. I
don't listen to pop music. I don't listen to pop radio.
I don't know what's going on. But for something to
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bleed out to my level, it's got to be really big.
I remember that song used somebody was that Kings of Leon.
That song was everywhere all the time, and I will
confess for a top forty song that's popular right now,
I thought that's a pretty good song the first five
times I heard it, and then it went to that
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I kind of liked that song, but man, they're playing
it too much. And then it went to this thing
is going to be done overnight. And so that's what
happens in these bands, you know, Mumford and Sons goes
from nobody knows them to they're the biggest thing out there.
And there's a lot of this. But what the algorithm does.
So my point is the idea of super serving you
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because once you find what people like, you just keep
giving them that same thing because it's tried and true.
Look at the movie industry. When the movie industry went whoke,
they lost the ability to communicate with their audience. They
lost the connection with their audience. And that really is
the problem of the movie industry for the last twenty
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five years. Is there there is? When's the last movie?
Not something your kids in or one of those, not
a concept movie and not a franchise. When is the
last movie you thought about? Man, I can't wait, it
is gonna be good. I want to go see this. Well,
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they lost the connection with their audience because they don't
live amongst their audience anymore. In four or twenty twenty, famously,
there was a New York Times columnist who said, I
don't know anyone who drives a truck. What is all
this truck talk? I don't know a single person who
drives a truck. That is your movement. There, there is
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your watershed moment. That disclosure tells you everything you need
to know and vice versa. By the way, for most people,
if you saw how these people live, it is so
outside your norm it would be considered highly sinful, erratic, disheveled, unstable.
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But it is quite normal for those people, and that
is their life, and this is most of America's life,
and that's why they can't. Trump understands who we are.
He recognized, whether he's selling a productor or campaigning or
making play, he gets it. And those people don't have
the slightest clue. In Michael Barry Show continues a little bit,
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Chad Nakanishi, you put a proposed this week I saw
on Facebook machine about his grandfather and it read quote,
I am indeed proud to have him serve in the
United States Army and am confident that he will bring
honor to the uniform he wears. Those words were written
by my great grandmother, Fujiko Nakanishi, an immigrant from Japan.
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It comes from a thank you note she took out
in our hometown newspaper, the Hawaii Tribune Herald, back in
nineteen forty three, after my grandfather, Comeichi Kame Nakanichi enlisted
in the United States Army. This was in the midst
of World War Two, when people like them were being
interned across the United States by FDR. And the note said,
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we say thank you on behalf of my son Komeichi.
I wish to take this Oh sorry, I wish to
take this means It's a printed newspaper article, so it's
a little uh splotched. I wish to take this means
of extending my sincere thanks and appreciation to the many
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friends for the many gifts and congratulatory messages extended him
prior to his induction in the United States Army. I
am indeed proud to have him served in the United
States Army and am confident that he will bring honor
to the uniform he wears. Signed Missus Fujiko Nakadishi Honmu
no mu Hawaii. It's a little bit about Chad, not
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an issue what you think Chad should have read it.
I could do. You want to know what happened. I
couldn't decide whether to put my glasses on or keep
my glasses off. And if I have my glasses on,
I can see from distance. If I take them off,
then I can't see far enough to see you or
the screen. So I was kind of stumbling and bumbling
in the middle of that, if I'm being completely honest.
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But that's a great story about Chad. Are you see
you're feeling jealous because we're talking about somebody other than you,
because that's how you are, like a child. People need
to know a little more about Chad. He's the most
interesting person on the team. So Uncle Jerry, ever endeavoring
to open another RCC, was looking at liquor sales in
the north part of Houston, and he found a place
called Marshall's Tavern in Conroe. And he's just looking at
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you know, what succeeds and what doesn't. I'm gonna just
tell you this right now. I don't know if you've noticed,
but COVID affected retail establishments in a way that I
don't know if it will ever come back. It is
opening a bar or restaurant today, the audience is so
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much smaller than it ever was, or than it was
five years ago. And the reason is, and I don't
know if this is true of you, but the numbers
bear this out. People aren't going out the way they
used to. People aren't going to concerts, they're not going
to the bar, they're not going to the restaurant. Now,
you personally may, but if you think about people around you,
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everybody is down. And if you're a well run business.
You're fine. You keep on going, and there will be
more businesses that will continue to fail because they don't
lose a lot of money, or even much money. But
they don't. They're just trading water. And after a period
of time, people grow exhausted of that, especially when they
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know there were better times before them. But anyway, this
Marshall's Tavern did sixty eight thousand in sales last month.
And well, they're not set in the world on fire,
but that's pretty good numbers for what it is. It's
not terribly big, it's in a strip center. It's pretty simple.
They're they're obviously working it. It looks like it's probably
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owner owner operated. But I noticed and I had to
take a shot of this. On their drinks menu, they
have you listen to this from on you pick what
you'd like to drink. Here they have a cherry icy
for six dollars, an orange mule for six fifty, a
pink panther for six fifty, a palm beach Paloma for
seven dollars, a sum beach for seven dollars. But here
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was the one I liked, the cage and lemonade for
five dollars and twenty one cents. I don't know where
five dollars and twenty one cents comes from, but it's
so insanely random that I loved it. By the way,
listen to what's in it. Bourbon, lemon juice, simple syrup,
and a dash of cayenne pepper for a kick, topped
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with soda water and a lemon slice. Tell me that
doesn't sound like it's kind of an old fashioned a
little bit, but that cayenne pepper pull up popping there.
Bourbon lemon juice, simple syrup and a dash of cayenne
pepper for a kick, top with soda water and a
lemon slice. Anyway, we were surprised because sixty eight thousand
is for what it is is pretty good. I will
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tell you that anything you're thinking of asking me what
the sales were in that area, this has higher sales
than those and a lot of things that you would
expect to have much higher liquor sales. It has higher
liquor sales than those things. And that's you know, you
got to sell to stay in business. I came across
something on Roger Clemens High School records at spring Woods
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High School in Houston. Listen to this for a moment.
In his senior year, he was named Baseball America High
School Player of the Year, led his team to a
state title, finished with a five twelve batting average. More
than one out of every two times he comes up
to bat, he gets a hit. Twelve home runs fifty
six RBIs a state record at the time, and a
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twelve and oh record. You're not beating the dude. His
era was point four zero. If he gives up a
run in this game, if his team beats you four
to one, then the next game and he pitches a
complete game and it gives up one run. The next game,
he doesn't give up one run going into the third game.
There are innings where he doesn't give up a run.
He also broke school passing records in football and was
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a star in basketball. How about that? How about that?
That's that's solid right there? That is solid. You know.
I think back to when Congress dragged him down there
to try to embarrass him and used him as a
political football boy. It just gives me the red ass.
That is where my hate and I need hate for
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those people comes from. I don't view them as harmless.
I view them as devils. They are the occult. They
ruin people's lives, they self deal, they are awful. Oh
it's it was Raywdy Hubber yet birthday yesterday, and we
talked to him. You're right, thank you. We talked to
him right after the show. Here's that conversation coming up,
and you need to escape from the every day escaped
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of the Michael Arry Show. We welcome to the program,
great and powerful Ray Willy Hobbard on his seventy ninth birthday.
Happy birthday, my friend.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Oh thank you man, Michael. How are you.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's been a while, It's been a while. How are you?
How are you doing? It's your birthday?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Well, I'm probably doing better than I deserve. As they say,
I should have hooked this up. But remind me, is
it Soper, Oklahoma? Soper, Oklahoma. That's where I was raised,
a borning Hugo, Oklahoma, which was known as Circustown, USA
back in the fifties and sixties where all these circus
made their winter home. And then we moved to sober
and then we moved to Dallas Oakcliff when I was
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eight years old, went to high school there and got
in got a little folk group there at the w
A Shathamson Michael Murphy. I saw him performing an assembly
and I went, oh, man, I got to get a guitar.
So that's where it kind of starting.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
And and everybody has their first guitar story. It's usually
somebody bought it for them as a gift. But how
did yours come about?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Well? Uh, I think my mom bought me one, and
I went and learned, uh, hang down your head, Tom Dooley,
and Delia's gone, oh and then uh, and then I
think I learned, uh, Peter Gunn the thing from Peter
Gunn down out.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Out out, down out out out. Yeah, how about that?
And how did you know? I mean, you just had
the book and you picked that it.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Now, well, they didn't have that back and you would
have to listen, you know, you would listen put it
you know, they had the record player and you'd have
to pick you'd listen to it. If you picked the
needle up and put it back over till you can
hear the lick, you know. Oh yeah it was. There
wasn't no any YouTube or anything. You had to, like
I say, pick up the needle and put it back
at the start and learn that lick and just keep
doing it. Till you finally.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Figured it out. When I was in about third grade.
My brother was in seventh grade and he got a
guitar and he was musically inclined. He played the trumpet
and and as I said, he was musically inclined and
I wasn't. And he was sitting in his room, which
was right next to mine. The doors were hollow, so
I'd put my ear to it and then I'd burst
in and make fun of him. But he'd sit in there, PE's, p's,
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p's PE's. He was learning his chords, and he just
sing along to him, eating goober peas. And so I've
told that story on the air, and apparently a lot
of people learned to play the guitar to that.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
That was it. Yeah, you just you know, you didn't,
you know, we couldn't afford to go to take music
lessons or anything. And so yeah, you get that Male
Bay chord book and you play till your fingers hurt
and you quit, and you go back and you play
it again, you know, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So take me from there. You buy the first guitar,
and then what.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Happens, Well, then I got a little folk group in
high school called, you know, a two guys, Rick and Wayne,
and we had a little folk group and then we
got a I got a gig in Red River, New Mexico,
which at a barbecue joint. So we got on a
bus in Dallas and twenty eight hours later we got
off in Questa and we go to this barbecue joint
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and the guy says, well, boys, was out of playing
at night. One of you is gonna wrap potatoes in tenfold,
one of u's gonna mop, one of the's gonna wash ishes.
So that was our big time professional gig that Then
that next year, the banjo player now we left and
we went up to Colorado and it was just the
two of us, and while we would do about six
o'clock at night, we'd find a cafe like in Brecking
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Ridge or Grand Junction or you know wherever, and we're
about six o'clock. H'd strap on a banjo and I'd
put on a guitar and we'd walk in the front
door playing Foggy Mountain break Down, and all of a
sudden he would stop and he'd go, I'm Rick, this
is Ray. We're the Seth Righteous Brothers. And that's still
a good name for a band band and then they say,
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and we wondered if we could play some songs for
a hamburger and a place to stay, to go back
in the fall, you use. The owner would come out
and some guys say, I'll buy a burger. And then
we'd said. We went all through Colorado that summer when
we were I guess eighteen years old doing that and
a couple. You know, there was the time we slip
on a loan from at but you know, it was fun,
that's what we did, you know. And then uh then
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after that, I just kept playing and uh ran into
Austin do that whole progressive country scare with Willie and Jerry, Jeff,
Michael Murphy and just got into writing, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So uh so he wasn't Michael Martin Murphy back then.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
He was just he was actually uh he was a
senior at Amson High School and I was a sophomore
and uh he may not mind me telling this, but
he was a cheerleader there you go. Yeah, and uh
he was you know, famous and uh in high school
and he was just and he came out on stage
one time and wrote a said, this is a song
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I wrote, Alison. I went songwriter. Wow, you know. So, yeah,
he was very instrumental in uh getting me Morrow.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Was a was a cheerleader at Memorial High at Stratford
High School. Yeah you look so I wouldn't ask any
dumb questions or fewer. But it says you went to
high school, would be W Stevenson.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yep, yeah he was, Uh, he was. I was a sophomore.
He was a freshman back then. And then after high school,
BW went into the Air Force and was stationed up
in uh Wichita Falls. And I was had a little
apartment there in Denton, and he would come down on
the weekend. We would learn guitar chords and play and
everything and so yeah, and then he went out to
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California with us and hung out.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
So yeah, I just heard my Maria two days ago.
I was pulling up to see my dad at the
old Folks Home and I'm pulling up and I'm pulling
into my spot and my Maria comes on and I
pulled in and sat there. I call that a driveway listener,
when you listened to the radio this way and and
I had to listen to the end of that, and
you know the original version. His version, I think is
that's such a good song.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Well, he was just you know, we were out. We
went out to California. We were we was at my
little folk group. We had a gig out there at
the Passaic House in Pasadena, and BW went out there
and he'd rode out there with us, and all of
a sudden, Uh, we were staying with an actor friend
of Aris Roy Sapplegate up Hollywood Hills and being able
to said I'm gonna go out and see what's out there,
and he left two bits. Two weeks later he came
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back and said, I wrote these songs. I said, sing
me one. So he's sang uh Highway one, and I said,
sing me in otherland it maybe you just got lucky.
And then he I feel like a baby boy on
my own baby boy being born. And man, he was
just off and running. You know. He was a great cat,
incredible voice, greater songwriter.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I don't think it's accidental how often you see these guys,
whether it's the great American writers in Paris in the
twenties or you know, you see these guys that that
that they create a you know, kind of a cabal,
a little collective, and it becomes sort of a fraternity
and they're playing off of each other and encouraging each
other and competing against each other, you know, the Beatles
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versus h the Beach Boys, and and I think that's
that seems to be a very common trend. I mean,
I wonder if Michael Murphy or Michael Martin Murphy as
we call him, hadn't done that, if you'd be where
you are today.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Probably not. You know, I feel very fortunate started off
in folk music, you know, and uh, you know, you
find uh, you know, Peter, Paul and Mary and through
them you find Dylan. Then you find what he got
through and you find Cisco Houston all that. But at
that same time, U when I was, you know, getting
into it all of a sudden, man, you had Guy Clark,
townsman Zant and Billy Joe Shavern Willie and Jerry Cheff
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and and all these guys, you know, and uh there
there wasn't really any big eagle thing. I mean, Jerry
Cheff was a great songwriter, but he would always include
a song by an unknown young songwriter on his album
Gary Dunn or you know, Guy Clark or me, and
uh so it was just a really was a fellowship
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of of uh you know, these guys learning and from
each other and caring. I remember Rushi Weir was a
big shot, you know, and I was supposed to open
for him at some club and we had a flat.
So I called the club and said, hey, man, I
don't think open. Russey said, God didn't matter. I'll go
in first. You know, there wasn't any big ego about
top billing. He said, yeah, I'm going first, which I
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means I had to follow Russy Weir, But you know
what I mean, it was there really were just very gracious.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, well there's a group of those guys. Some of
them have left us. Was Stephen Fromhol's part of that fraternity?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, Stephen Promos, Yeah, Steve Framos, that was a great fan. Yeah,
he came to out from Colorado and he was part
of that.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
In fact, actually very few beers one now became blood brothers.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Well, you know you are the best stories, right Michael
Berry's show, singer, songwriter, legendary personality, friend of Willie Nelson
in every Texan Ray Willy Hubbard is our guest. It's
his birthday. I know, Willie thanks the world of view.
And I'm assuming Leon Russell was kind of weaving in
and out of this group at some point.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, we uh, you know he was John was. You know,
it's some back in those days, Willie had his picnic.
You know, Leon would sit in with everybody and we
went up there and uh did some stuff at the
church and but yeah, Leon was just a great part
of it too.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
You know. You know, I think my favorite Robert o'
keene story is about his his car burning up and
he gets invited to come and meet Willie on his bus,
but they're leaving to go jam with Leon Russell. And
you know, all these years later the Highwaymen recorded his song.
So it all made it, It all made it, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, it was just you know, I say, Willie's picnic
was just an incredible you know, uh, you know, you know,
I'm pretty strange, but it was you know, there was
there wasn't any you know, we uh I'm playing. And
also you know, I remember when Willie the first time
played Caesar's Palace in Lake Tahoe. He called me, he said, hey, man,
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you want to a couple play Caesar's Palace with me?
And I said yeah, And but Anya, they said, well,
they didn't have opening acts in the main room, so well,
I want you play in the lounge. So we set
up in the lounge and all these people were being
live to see Willie. Well will It is over on
the side of the stage sitting on an Applan guitar with me.
You know, he said, don't kill anybody. You know, they
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could have just come in the lounge and seen Willie.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Right there right.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
But you know it was you know, there there wasn't
any There wasn't a lot of ego involved with you know,
once you kind of became a member of the group.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
You know, I've noticed with you, uh, perhaps more than
anybody else that I came in contract contact with through
the RCC days and through chasing my music across the state.
Is there's no ego? Is there is that intentional or
is that just kind of your personality? Did you make
a decision one day, Hey, I don't want to be
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like that guy.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Well, it's a thing too it all of a sudden,
I think, keeping my gratitude higher than my expectations, that's
one thing. And then all of a sudden, really uh,
you know it's it's it's right. Of these songs they like,
say b and Austin, I'll send you write this song
and I'll say, he say, man, it's a great song.
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I'll send you walk into a club and all of
a sudden, mcmurcury goes, here's a song I wrote, and
you go, oh, you know. So it keeps you humble,
you know, among all the songwriters. So you know, you
couldn't couldn't get a big ego, you know, because there's
always you know, Guy or Towns or Billy Joe, you know,
writing these incredible songs and U and one of the
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one of the great things that happened comes up and says,
hey man, I like that little song. That was a
graphics you know. It wasn't an eagle thing. It was
a self esteem thing that hey man, you know I
got Kevin Welsh of.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
One of my songs, you know, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah,
that makes sense. You mentioned Jerry Jeff Walker, and I
know that y'all had quite the association. What did it
do for you? In seventy three when he records Up
against the Wall read Nickmother, which of course you'd written.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well, well, it gave me a middle name, you know,
I was Ray Hubbard up before that. But then Bob
Bloomingston on the album said, this only is by Ray
Wiley Hubbard, you know, so all of a sudden and
Jerry's regularly we wanted to take that off the record
because they said, well, if they hear this on the radio,
but we'll think that's Ray Waller Hubbert singing, and Jerry goes,
I don't care leave it on there. So for one thing,
I got a middle name. Also, I was Ray Walley
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Hubbert then and at the time it was now, and
that was the only thing I was known for, you know,
red neck mothers I do with these old honky talks
and I'd walk on stage and they go play red
neck mother and I played red neck mother and I go,
here's another and so yeah, it was kind of a
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not an alvatroar, but it was the only thing I
was known for a while. And today you know, I
still do it, but it's fun. So I got a
you know, pretty strong arsenal, you know with drunken poet
snake form.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, alles you do, you have a very strong ersenal.
I've told the story many times over the years. Ray
Wilder Hobbert is our guest. By the way, of how
you helped me get Tony Joe White. He wouldn't return
our calls. And then he called you and said, who
is this guy, Michael Berry? And why does he want
me to come play his place? And what is it?
And you said, yes, yes, you must play his place.
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And then I leaned against a wall and somebody comes
up and standing right over my shoulder, but hidden around
the wall so nobody see it. And you had driven
in to see him play. And I asked you why
he took your advice to heart like that, because that
was quite a leap of faith. And you told a
great story. Would you mind telling that again?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Well, remind me of which story that was.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well, he I guess. I guess you were down and
out and you needed some cash and he bought the
remainder of your studio sessions.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, yeah, he was, you know, telling Joe just always.
He was one of those guys like Cherry Jiff and
Billy Joe who really respected other songwriters, you know. And
so I remember I called him out. Thank you called me, Yeah,
I sure, I get telling Joe here and I said, well,
you know, and he wouldn't ask us. I called Tony.
Joe said, Tony, Joey says, place down there, and you
(29:03):
know around Houston, you know, And I said, you know,
he said, well, I don't know. Well then I said, no, man,
I think you'll dig it, you know, And so he said, okay,
I'll do it. Then, you know, Tony, Tony Joe was
just one of those great cats. I'll tell you a
great Tony Joe's story. So Tony Joe was playing my
Print and Grew festival. So he shows up, and Tony
Joe was the first cat. We're just a guy and
(29:26):
of drummer, you know, before the white stripe, so the
black keys, you know, guitar and drums. So Tony Joe
shows up at my festival and he's with this guy
and you know, walking back me and I go, hey,
Tony Joe goes all good to be here. I said,
who's this? Said, isn't my drummer Fleetwood? And I go, really,
I said, how'd y'all meet? He said? They both started laughing.
(29:49):
He said, oh, I just I went to the institution
checked him out for the weekend. We just never been back.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I love the old great stories.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, so I mean that's so, but yeah, I'm telling you, Joe,
I remember, yeah, that was really a three old after that, Yeah,
he tough plays. I want to come down and open
for him. You know, I got to hang out you know.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Well it was it was very kind of you and
and and you and mother Hubbard were very kind to
us in landing us Uncle Lucius, your relationship to Kevin
who looks up to you, and and he's Carl and
and all these folks that looked up to you and
her uh and still do as as you know, the
godfather and the guy that could be trusted in, the
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guy that would give him good advice.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And you always always said good things. And it opened
a lot of doors for us. So a very happy
birthday to you, Ray Willy Hupper, thank you very much.
We just love an a door to you. Here's too
many many more.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
My friend, Hey, and I think we're going to be
playing in Houston. I don't know where, but I think
it's around December fourth or fifth with Shane Smith. We're
voting for Shane Smith. So stay in tell with you man,
I'll put you on the guest list. Ye, I would
love to see you. I think it's look, I think
it's rund December fourth or one of those days.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Sit in December fourth. Vermon Sensence four seven one three viewsic.
Call December fourth.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Okay, yeah, well come on, you'll give me a call.
We'll put you on the list, but like to hang
out with you.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
We'll be there and we'll send our and we'll send
our folks out to support you. Thank you, brother.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I want to take care man idea.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Man a good deal. Thank you and good night
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Very Show is.
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I'll see that bars just like a tattoo gets under
your skin. Got Moon. I got what we're dealing with here.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Here's a lack of respect for the laws.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So apparently there is some soy boy. He calls himself,
I guess a leftist influencer named Bill Brooker, and he
put out his fativa list of what he calls trumpy
restaurants in Houston. In Houston, and they are common Bond Presley's.
(02:02):
Presley's is the one that puts is over in the heights.
They're the ones that put the sides up on their
marquee that upsets the left so much. You know, it's
a great day on Trump's inauguration. There's nothing to them.
They're pretty basic patriotic things, and they make people in
the heights so angry. White liberals are such sad, miserable sacks.
(02:26):
Federal American Grill who we've talked about, and taste of Texas.
That's the four. Let's see what he says on here.
It's in the middle of it's a TikTok video, but
I haven't seen that Maga conservative appears to support Trumps,
and I guess this is his cause. He's going to
(02:48):
he's giving a speech about how these people. He's got
a real bad comb over, especially for a guy this young.
Looks like a complete dweeb. But that's usually what these
types are. A friend of mine wrote me a little
note earlier in the week. He will occasionally send his
random thoughts, and I encourage that because they're usually interesting,
(03:10):
and he wrote, white liberal women are human shaped black
holes of nurturing energy. Beginners start out with unsolicited child
rearing advice to conservative moms on social media. They later
(03:32):
advanced to stockpiling used dogs in five oh one c
three sanctuaries housed in their living rooms. When they reach
their final form, they push open door policies indifferent to
community damage, just like they ignore the pack of blind
senior rescue dogs destroying their sofas. It's not about the
(03:56):
dog or the immigrant. It's about filling the huge void.
And that is how America lost New York City. You know,
we tend to live in bubbles, all of us, in
(04:17):
one way or another. We tend to live in bubbles,
and social media particularly, but even cable television to a
lesser extent. But let's social media, the algorithm method of
giving you what you want. And everyone is so upset
about Well, everybody's done that in the course of my life.
(04:42):
The top forty radio. Every market has a top forty
radio station, normally more than one, typically more than one.
And I remember when I was growing up, the top
forty radio station would play the hot songs of the day,
and you might hear them, you might hear the hot
song of the day in a day. By the time
(05:02):
I was in radio in two thousand and five, they
would play the hot song of the day once an hour,
and what it meant was that a song got bigger
at a particular time because it took you sort of
went an inch wide and a mile deep of the
(05:23):
public's time and attention at that moment. But it also
hastened the amount of time between. Man I really liked
this song, to please never play this song again. I
don't listen to pop music. I don't listen to pop radio.
I don't know what's going on. But for something to
(05:44):
bleed out to my level, it's got to be really big.
I remember that song used somebody was that Kings of Leon.
That song was everywhere all the time, and I will
confess for a top forty song that's popular right now,
I thought that's a pretty good song the first five
times I heard it, and then it went to that
(06:08):
I kind of liked that song, but man, they're playing
it too much. And then it went to this thing
is going to be done overnight. And so that's what
happens in these bands, you know, Mumford and Sons goes
from nobody knows them to they're the biggest thing out there.
And there's a lot of this. But what the algorithm does.
So my point is the idea of super serving you
(06:32):
because once you find what people like, you just keep
giving them that same thing because it's tried and true.
Look at the movie industry. When the movie industry went whoke,
they lost the ability to communicate with their audience. They
lost the connection with their audience. And that really is
the problem of the movie industry for the last twenty
(06:53):
five years. Is there there is? When's the last movie?
Not something your kids in or one of those, not
a concept movie and not a franchise. When is the
last movie you thought about? Man, I can't wait, it
is gonna be good. I want to go see this. Well,
(07:15):
they lost the connection with their audience because they don't
live amongst their audience anymore. In four or twenty twenty, famously,
there was a New York Times columnist who said, I
don't know anyone who drives a truck. What is all
this truck talk? I don't know a single person who
drives a truck. That is your movement. There, there is
(07:38):
your watershed moment. That disclosure tells you everything you need
to know and vice versa. By the way, for most people,
if you saw how these people live, it is so
outside your norm it would be considered highly sinful, erratic, disheveled, unstable.
(08:02):
But it is quite normal for those people, and that
is their life, and this is most of America's life,
and that's why they can't. Trump understands who we are.
He recognized, whether he's selling a productor or campaigning or
making play, he gets it. And those people don't have
the slightest clue. In Michael Barry Show continues a little bit,
(08:33):
Chad Nakanishi, you put a proposed this week I saw
on Facebook machine about his grandfather and it read quote,
I am indeed proud to have him serve in the
United States Army and am confident that he will bring
honor to the uniform he wears. Those words were written
by my great grandmother, Fujiko Nakanishi, an immigrant from Japan.
(08:56):
It comes from a thank you note she took out
in our hometown newspaper, the Hawaii Tribune Herald, back in
nineteen forty three, after my grandfather, Comeichi Kame Nakanichi enlisted
in the United States Army. This was in the midst
of World War Two, when people like them were being
interned across the United States by FDR. And the note said,
(09:20):
we say thank you on behalf of my son Komeichi.
I wish to take this Oh sorry, I wish to
take this means It's a printed newspaper article, so it's
a little uh splotched. I wish to take this means
of extending my sincere thanks and appreciation to the many
(09:40):
friends for the many gifts and congratulatory messages extended him
prior to his induction in the United States Army. I
am indeed proud to have him served in the United
States Army and am confident that he will bring honor
to the uniform he wears. Signed Missus Fujiko Nakadishi Honmu
no mu Hawaii. It's a little bit about Chad, not
(10:01):
an issue what you think Chad should have read it.
I could do. You want to know what happened. I
couldn't decide whether to put my glasses on or keep
my glasses off. And if I have my glasses on,
I can see from distance. If I take them off,
then I can't see far enough to see you or
the screen. So I was kind of stumbling and bumbling
in the middle of that, if I'm being completely honest.
(10:21):
But that's a great story about Chad. Are you see
you're feeling jealous because we're talking about somebody other than you,
because that's how you are, like a child. People need
to know a little more about Chad. He's the most
interesting person on the team. So Uncle Jerry, ever endeavoring
to open another RCC, was looking at liquor sales in
the north part of Houston, and he found a place
called Marshall's Tavern in Conroe. And he's just looking at
(10:44):
you know, what succeeds and what doesn't. I'm gonna just
tell you this right now. I don't know if you've noticed,
but COVID affected retail establishments in a way that I
don't know if it will ever come back. It is
opening a bar or restaurant today, the audience is so
(11:07):
much smaller than it ever was, or than it was
five years ago. And the reason is, and I don't
know if this is true of you, but the numbers
bear this out. People aren't going out the way they
used to. People aren't going to concerts, they're not going
to the bar, they're not going to the restaurant. Now,
you personally may, but if you think about people around you,
(11:30):
everybody is down. And if you're a well run business.
You're fine. You keep on going, and there will be
more businesses that will continue to fail because they don't
lose a lot of money, or even much money. But
they don't. They're just trading water. And after a period
of time, people grow exhausted of that, especially when they
(11:50):
know there were better times before them. But anyway, this
Marshall's Tavern did sixty eight thousand in sales last month.
And well, they're not set in the world on fire,
but that's pretty good numbers for what it is. It's
not terribly big, it's in a strip center. It's pretty simple.
They're they're obviously working it. It looks like it's probably
(12:11):
owner owner operated. But I noticed and I had to
take a shot of this. On their drinks menu, they
have you listen to this from on you pick what
you'd like to drink. Here they have a cherry icy
for six dollars, an orange mule for six fifty, a
pink panther for six fifty, a palm beach Paloma for
seven dollars, a sum beach for seven dollars. But here
(12:31):
was the one I liked, the cage and lemonade for
five dollars and twenty one cents. I don't know where
five dollars and twenty one cents comes from, but it's
so insanely random that I loved it. By the way,
listen to what's in it. Bourbon, lemon juice, simple syrup,
and a dash of cayenne pepper for a kick, topped
(12:53):
with soda water and a lemon slice. Tell me that
doesn't sound like it's kind of an old fashioned a
little bit, but that cayenne pepper pull up popping there.
Bourbon lemon juice, simple syrup and a dash of cayenne
pepper for a kick, top with soda water and a
lemon slice. Anyway, we were surprised because sixty eight thousand
is for what it is is pretty good. I will
(13:18):
tell you that anything you're thinking of asking me what
the sales were in that area, this has higher sales
than those and a lot of things that you would
expect to have much higher liquor sales. It has higher
liquor sales than those things. And that's you know, you
got to sell to stay in business. I came across
something on Roger Clemens High School records at spring Woods
(13:39):
High School in Houston. Listen to this for a moment.
In his senior year, he was named Baseball America High
School Player of the Year, led his team to a
state title, finished with a five twelve batting average. More
than one out of every two times he comes up
to bat, he gets a hit. Twelve home runs fifty
six RBIs a state record at the time, and a
(14:01):
twelve and oh record. You're not beating the dude. His
era was point four zero. If he gives up a
run in this game, if his team beats you four
to one, then the next game and he pitches a
complete game and it gives up one run. The next game,
he doesn't give up one run going into the third game.
There are innings where he doesn't give up a run.
He also broke school passing records in football and was
(14:24):
a star in basketball. How about that? How about that?
That's that's solid right there? That is solid. You know.
I think back to when Congress dragged him down there
to try to embarrass him and used him as a
political football boy. It just gives me the red ass.
That is where my hate and I need hate for
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those people comes from. I don't view them as harmless.
I view them as devils. They are the occult. They
ruin people's lives, they self deal, they are awful. Oh
it's it was Raywdy Hubber yet birthday yesterday, and we
talked to him. You're right, thank you. We talked to
him right after the show. Here's that conversation coming up,
and you need to escape from the every day escaped
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of the Michael Arry Show. We welcome to the program,
great and powerful Ray Willy Hobbard on his seventy ninth birthday.
Happy birthday, my friend.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Oh thank you man, Michael. How are you.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's been a while, It's been a while. How are you?
How are you doing? It's your birthday?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Well, I'm probably doing better than I deserve. As they say,
I should have hooked this up. But remind me, is
it Soper, Oklahoma? Soper, Oklahoma. That's where I was raised,
a borning Hugo, Oklahoma, which was known as Circustown, USA
back in the fifties and sixties where all these circus
made their winter home. And then we moved to sober
and then we moved to Dallas Oakcliff when I was
(15:47):
eight years old, went to high school there and got
in got a little folk group there at the w
A Shathamson Michael Murphy. I saw him performing an assembly
and I went, oh, man, I got to get a guitar.
So that's where it kind of starting.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
And and everybody has their first guitar story. It's usually
somebody bought it for them as a gift. But how
did yours come about?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Well? Uh, I think my mom bought me one, and
I went and learned, uh, hang down your head, Tom Dooley,
and Delia's gone, oh and then uh, and then I
think I learned, uh, Peter Gunn the thing from Peter
Gunn down out.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Out out, down out out out. Yeah, how about that?
And how did you know? I mean, you just had
the book and you picked that it.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Now, well, they didn't have that back and you would
have to listen, you know, you would listen put it
you know, they had the record player and you'd have
to pick you'd listen to it. If you picked the
needle up and put it back over till you can
hear the lick, you know. Oh yeah it was. There
wasn't no any YouTube or anything. You had to, like
I say, pick up the needle and put it back
at the start and learn that lick and just keep
doing it. Till you finally.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Figured it out. When I was in about third grade.
My brother was in seventh grade and he got a
guitar and he was musically inclined. He played the trumpet
and and as I said, he was musically inclined and
I wasn't. And he was sitting in his room, which
was right next to mine. The doors were hollow, so
I'd put my ear to it and then I'd burst
in and make fun of him. But he'd sit in there, PE's, p's,
(17:09):
p's PE's. He was learning his chords, and he just
sing along to him, eating goober peas. And so I've
told that story on the air, and apparently a lot
of people learned to play the guitar to that.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
That was it. Yeah, you just you know, you didn't,
you know, we couldn't afford to go to take music
lessons or anything. And so yeah, you get that Male
Bay chord book and you play till your fingers hurt
and you quit, and you go back and you play
it again, you know, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So take me from there. You buy the first guitar,
and then what.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Happens, Well, then I got a little folk group in
high school called, you know, a two guys, Rick and Wayne,
and we had a little folk group and then we
got a I got a gig in Red River, New Mexico,
which at a barbecue joint. So we got on a
bus in Dallas and twenty eight hours later we got
off in Questa and we go to this barbecue joint
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and the guy says, well, boys, was out of playing
at night. One of you is gonna wrap potatoes in tenfold,
one of u's gonna mop, one of the's gonna wash ishes.
So that was our big time professional gig that Then
that next year, the banjo player now we left and
we went up to Colorado and it was just the
two of us, and while we would do about six
o'clock at night, we'd find a cafe like in Brecking
(18:22):
Ridge or Grand Junction or you know wherever, and we're
about six o'clock. H'd strap on a banjo and I'd
put on a guitar and we'd walk in the front
door playing Foggy Mountain break Down, and all of a
sudden he would stop and he'd go, I'm Rick, this
is Ray. We're the Seth Righteous Brothers. And that's still
a good name for a band band and then they say,
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and we wondered if we could play some songs for
a hamburger and a place to stay, to go back
in the fall, you use. The owner would come out
and some guys say, I'll buy a burger. And then
we'd said. We went all through Colorado that summer when
we were I guess eighteen years old doing that and
a couple. You know, there was the time we slip
on a loan from at but you know, it was fun,
that's what we did, you know. And then uh then
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after that, I just kept playing and uh ran into
Austin do that whole progressive country scare with Willie and Jerry, Jeff,
Michael Murphy and just got into writing, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So uh so he wasn't Michael Martin Murphy back then.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
He was just he was actually uh he was a
senior at Amson High School and I was a sophomore
and uh he may not mind me telling this, but
he was a cheerleader there you go. Yeah, and uh
he was you know, famous and uh in high school
and he was just and he came out on stage
one time and wrote a said, this is a song
(19:39):
I wrote, Alison. I went songwriter. Wow, you know. So, yeah,
he was very instrumental in uh getting me Morrow.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Was a was a cheerleader at Memorial High at Stratford
High School. Yeah you look so I wouldn't ask any
dumb questions or fewer. But it says you went to
high school, would be W Stevenson.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yep, yeah he was, Uh, he was. I was a sophomore.
He was a freshman back then. And then after high school,
BW went into the Air Force and was stationed up
in uh Wichita Falls. And I was had a little
apartment there in Denton, and he would come down on
the weekend. We would learn guitar chords and play and
everything and so yeah, and then he went out to
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California with us and hung out.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
So yeah, I just heard my Maria two days ago.
I was pulling up to see my dad at the
old Folks Home and I'm pulling up and I'm pulling
into my spot and my Maria comes on and I
pulled in and sat there. I call that a driveway listener,
when you listened to the radio this way and and
I had to listen to the end of that, and
you know the original version. His version, I think is
that's such a good song.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Well, he was just you know, we were out. We
went out to California. We were we was at my
little folk group. We had a gig out there at
the Passaic House in Pasadena, and BW went out there
and he'd rode out there with us, and all of
a sudden, Uh, we were staying with an actor friend
of Aris Roy Sapplegate up Hollywood Hills and being able
to said I'm gonna go out and see what's out there,
and he left two bits. Two weeks later he came
(21:05):
back and said, I wrote these songs. I said, sing
me one. So he's sang uh Highway one, and I said,
sing me in otherland it maybe you just got lucky.
And then he I feel like a baby boy on
my own baby boy being born. And man, he was
just off and running. You know. He was a great cat,
incredible voice, greater songwriter.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I don't think it's accidental how often you see these guys,
whether it's the great American writers in Paris in the
twenties or you know, you see these guys that that
that they create a you know, kind of a cabal,
a little collective, and it becomes sort of a fraternity
and they're playing off of each other and encouraging each
other and competing against each other, you know, the Beatles
(21:47):
versus h the Beach Boys, and and I think that's
that seems to be a very common trend. I mean,
I wonder if Michael Murphy or Michael Martin Murphy as
we call him, hadn't done that, if you'd be where
you are today.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Probably not. You know, I feel very fortunate started off
in folk music, you know, and uh, you know, you
find uh, you know, Peter, Paul and Mary and through
them you find Dylan. Then you find what he got
through and you find Cisco Houston all that. But at
that same time, U when I was, you know, getting
into it all of a sudden, man, you had Guy Clark,
townsman Zant and Billy Joe Shavern Willie and Jerry Cheff
(22:23):
and and all these guys, you know, and uh there
there wasn't really any big eagle thing. I mean, Jerry
Cheff was a great songwriter, but he would always include
a song by an unknown young songwriter on his album
Gary Dunn or you know, Guy Clark or me, and
uh so it was just a really was a fellowship
(22:45):
of of uh you know, these guys learning and from
each other and caring. I remember Rushi Weir was a
big shot, you know, and I was supposed to open
for him at some club and we had a flat.
So I called the club and said, hey, man, I
don't think open. Russey said, God didn't matter. I'll go
in first. You know, there wasn't any big ego about
top billing. He said, yeah, I'm going first, which I
(23:08):
means I had to follow Russy Weir, But you know
what I mean, it was there really were just very gracious.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, well there's a group of those guys. Some of
them have left us. Was Stephen Fromhol's part of that fraternity?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, Stephen Promos, Yeah, Steve Framos, that was a great fan. Yeah,
he came to out from Colorado and he was part
of that.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
In fact, actually very few beers one now became blood brothers.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Well, you know you are the best stories, right Michael
Berry's show, singer, songwriter, legendary personality, friend of Willie Nelson
in every Texan Ray Willy Hubbard is our guest. It's
his birthday. I know, Willie thanks the world of view.
And I'm assuming Leon Russell was kind of weaving in
and out of this group at some point.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, we uh, you know he was John was. You know,
it's some back in those days, Willie had his picnic.
You know, Leon would sit in with everybody and we
went up there and uh did some stuff at the
church and but yeah, Leon was just a great part
of it too.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
You know. You know, I think my favorite Robert o'
keene story is about his his car burning up and
he gets invited to come and meet Willie on his bus,
but they're leaving to go jam with Leon Russell. And
you know, all these years later the Highwaymen recorded his song.
So it all made it, It all made it, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, it was just you know, I say, Willie's picnic
was just an incredible you know, uh, you know, you know,
I'm pretty strange, but it was you know, there was
there wasn't any you know, we uh I'm playing. And
also you know, I remember when Willie the first time
played Caesar's Palace in Lake Tahoe. He called me, he said, hey, man,
(24:50):
you want to a couple play Caesar's Palace with me?
And I said yeah, And but Anya, they said, well,
they didn't have opening acts in the main room, so well,
I want you play in the lounge. So we set
up in the lounge and all these people were being
live to see Willie. Well will It is over on
the side of the stage sitting on an Applan guitar with me.
You know, he said, don't kill anybody. You know, they
(25:12):
could have just come in the lounge and seen Willie.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Right there right.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
But you know it was you know, there there wasn't
any There wasn't a lot of ego involved with you know,
once you kind of became a member of the group.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
You know, I've noticed with you, uh, perhaps more than
anybody else that I came in contract contact with through
the RCC days and through chasing my music across the state.
Is there's no ego? Is there is that intentional or
is that just kind of your personality? Did you make
a decision one day, Hey, I don't want to be
(25:44):
like that guy.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Well, it's a thing too it all of a sudden,
I think, keeping my gratitude higher than my expectations, that's
one thing. And then all of a sudden, really uh,
you know it's it's it's right. Of these songs they like,
say b and Austin, I'll send you write this song
and I'll say, he say, man, it's a great song.
(26:06):
I'll send you walk into a club and all of
a sudden, mcmurcury goes, here's a song I wrote, and
you go, oh, you know. So it keeps you humble,
you know, among all the songwriters. So you know, you
couldn't couldn't get a big ego, you know, because there's
always you know, Guy or Towns or Billy Joe, you know,
writing these incredible songs and U and one of the
(26:26):
one of the great things that happened comes up and says,
hey man, I like that little song. That was a
graphics you know. It wasn't an eagle thing. It was
a self esteem thing that hey man, you know I
got Kevin Welsh of.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
One of my songs, you know, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah,
that makes sense. You mentioned Jerry Jeff Walker, and I
know that y'all had quite the association. What did it
do for you? In seventy three when he records Up
against the Wall read Nickmother, which of course you'd written.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well, well, it gave me a middle name, you know,
I was Ray Hubbard up before that. But then Bob
Bloomingston on the album said, this only is by Ray
Wiley Hubbard, you know, so all of a sudden and
Jerry's regularly we wanted to take that off the record
because they said, well, if they hear this on the radio,
but we'll think that's Ray Waller Hubbert singing, and Jerry goes,
I don't care leave it on there. So for one thing,
I got a middle name. Also, I was Ray Walley
(27:18):
Hubbert then and at the time it was now, and
that was the only thing I was known for, you know,
red neck mothers I do with these old honky talks
and I'd walk on stage and they go play red
neck mother and I played red neck mother and I go,
here's another and so yeah, it was kind of a
(27:40):
not an alvatroar, but it was the only thing I
was known for a while. And today you know, I
still do it, but it's fun. So I got a
you know, pretty strong arsenal, you know with drunken poet
snake form.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, alles you do, you have a very strong ersenal.
I've told the story many times over the years. Ray
Wilder Hobbert is our guest. By the way, of how
you helped me get Tony Joe White. He wouldn't return
our calls. And then he called you and said, who
is this guy, Michael Berry? And why does he want
me to come play his place? And what is it?
And you said, yes, yes, you must play his place.
(28:13):
And then I leaned against a wall and somebody comes
up and standing right over my shoulder, but hidden around
the wall so nobody see it. And you had driven
in to see him play. And I asked you why
he took your advice to heart like that, because that
was quite a leap of faith. And you told a
great story. Would you mind telling that again?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Well, remind me of which story that was.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well, he I guess. I guess you were down and
out and you needed some cash and he bought the
remainder of your studio sessions.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, yeah, he was, you know, telling Joe just always.
He was one of those guys like Cherry Jiff and
Billy Joe who really respected other songwriters, you know. And
so I remember I called him out. Thank you called me, Yeah,
I sure, I get telling Joe here and I said, well,
you know, and he wouldn't ask us. I called Tony.
Joe said, Tony, Joey says, place down there, and you
(29:03):
know around Houston, you know, And I said, you know,
he said, well, I don't know. Well then I said, no, man,
I think you'll dig it, you know, And so he said, okay,
I'll do it. Then, you know, Tony, Tony Joe was
just one of those great cats. I'll tell you a
great Tony Joe's story. So Tony Joe was playing my
Print and Grew festival. So he shows up, and Tony
Joe was the first cat. We're just a guy and
(29:26):
of drummer, you know, before the white stripe, so the
black keys, you know, guitar and drums. So Tony Joe
shows up at my festival and he's with this guy
and you know, walking back me and I go, hey,
Tony Joe goes all good to be here. I said,
who's this? Said, isn't my drummer Fleetwood? And I go, really,
I said, how'd y'all meet? He said? They both started laughing.
(29:49):
He said, oh, I just I went to the institution
checked him out for the weekend. We just never been back.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I love the old great stories.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, so I mean that's so, but yeah, I'm telling you, Joe,
I remember, yeah, that was really a three old after that, Yeah,
he tough plays. I want to come down and open
for him. You know, I got to hang out you know.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Well it was it was very kind of you and
and and you and mother Hubbard were very kind to
us in landing us Uncle Lucius, your relationship to Kevin
who looks up to you, and and he's Carl and
and all these folks that looked up to you and
her uh and still do as as you know, the
godfather and the guy that could be trusted in, the
(30:32):
guy that would give him good advice.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And you always always said good things. And it opened
a lot of doors for us. So a very happy
birthday to you, Ray Willy Hupper, thank you very much.
We just love an a door to you. Here's too
many many more.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
My friend, Hey, and I think we're going to be
playing in Houston. I don't know where, but I think
it's around December fourth or fifth with Shane Smith. We're
voting for Shane Smith. So stay in tell with you man,
I'll put you on the guest list. Ye, I would
love to see you. I think it's look, I think
it's rund December fourth or one of those days.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Sit in December fourth. Vermon Sensence four seven one three viewsic.
Call December fourth.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Okay, yeah, well come on, you'll give me a call.
We'll put you on the list, but like to hang
out with you.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
We'll be there and we'll send our and we'll send
our folks out to support you. Thank you, brother.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I want to take care man idea.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Man a good deal. Thank you and good night
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