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You're listening to Later with Mo Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty AM
m M six forty. It's Laterwith Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app and California Government.They're doing it again. I know our
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government is made up of the peoplethat we, when I say we citizens
have voted for, but it doesn'tmean that everything that they do is worthy
of emulation or applause or anything likethat. And when I talk about government
in a general sense, I don'tthink people who are elected to office by
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and large have the interests of theirconstituencies at heart. Someone hit me on
Instagram and said, mo, youshould run for office. I said,
I should absolutely not run for office, because it's almost like I know too
much as far as how the sausageis made. I know that most politicians
are full of ish. Most politiciansand elected officials are unserious, and it's
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about staying in office and the perpetualcampaigning and what have you. And they
will say anything to just about whomeverthey think is the constituency which is best
suited to get them re elected.I have no illusions. That's why I'm
registered independent. There are deeply heldbeliefs I have, and there are certain
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politicians who are more in alignment withthem, But by and large, I
just can't take elected officials seriously.Here's what I mean. In California,
for the past two years, morethan the past few years, we've again
and again and again sought to passbills which were more in the purview of
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the FDA than actual governance in thesense of things which actually improve our lives.
I don't need the government to tellme what to eat, what not
to eat, how to eat.I don't need the government to tell me
what can or cannot be put intofood. I leave that to the state
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Department of Health, leave that tothe FDA. Proposed California bill would ban
methylene chloride from decaffeinated coffee production.I said I was going to talk about
this. I didn't get to itlast hour. I'll get to it this
hour. And I say this assomeone who is very rare. I don't
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drink coffee, never have I know, Mark, I'm serious. I don't
drink coffee, and working in radio, you think I drink coffee. The
only time I've ever had coffee,as in like hot coffee, I was
in Spain, I went to adunkin Donuts and they didn't have any water
per se. You know, theydidn't have any drinks. Everything was coffee.
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Coffee was everywhere, and I said, well, when in Barcelona,
do is the Barcelonians? So Ihad coffee while I was there. Didn't
like it. Never grew on megrowing up. Both my parents heavy coffee
drinkers, didn't like it. Nevergrow on me. I liked hot chocolate
because I didn't like to taste ofcoffee. And at best I will have
an iced coffee. Back when Iwas filling in for Bill Handle on rare
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occasion, I'm not a morning person, so getting up at four o'clock in
the morning to do a six amshift, I needed a little pick me
up. That's the only time outsideof that. Never so I don't have
a personal vested interest in whether theybanned this particular coffee ingredient or if they
banned coffee altogether. I won't missit. I won't care about it one
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bit. You really hate America,don't you. I hate everything about America
when it comes to coffee. Ohmy god, this is abnormal. Realize
that you're the abnormal one. Iadmit that I am a strange individual.
This is just one of my peculiarities. Okay, it's just one of them.
I got a bunch of them.But the chemical in question is methylne
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chloride. It's a colorless liquid thatfederal regulators have already banned in certain manufacturing
and industrial processes, but not infood or drinks. Coffee companies use methyline
chloride to remove caffeine and this one. Assembly Member Eloise Gomez Rees is the
author of Assembly Bill two zero sixtysix, which would ban methylene chloride from
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all coffee products in the state.Quote. There are three ways of decaffeinating
coffee going through the process. Thisis the only one that uses a known
carcinogen to decaffeinate it. Of course, the National Coffee Association is against this
proposed ban. The President and CEOBill Murray, not that Bill Murray,
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but his name is Bill Murray,had this to say. Quote. The
activists sponsoring this bill have not presentedany evidence to justify banning the most common
type of decalf because none exists.Not only is there no evidence of any
health risk, but in fact,decades of independent scientific evidence demonstrate that drinking
European method decalf like all coffee,is associated with reduced risk of multiple cancers
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and chronic diseases. The World HealthOrganization, the American Cancer Society, the
American Institute for Cancer Research, theWorld Cancer Research Fund, and California's own
Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment agreeclose quote. Well, it's pretty simple
to me. Just be a noncoffee drinker like me. That'll in all
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your problems. Sean, do youdrink coffee? You do a little bit.
I do an occasion thought, onlyice, though I don't like hot
drinks either. Okay, at best, I'll do ice coffee and it's definitely
not decaffeinated in nature. What's thepoint. Yeah, it's like a non
alcoholic beer. Yeah, and Inever I never drank beer for the taste,
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right, I drink beer for thebuzzy exactly. If I'm going to
a baseball game and that's about theonly time I have beer, I will
have a beer for the purpose ofhaving a light buzz and watching the Dodgers.
I don't go home and say,hey, why don't I have me
and old duels? Nor Mark,do you have the hotline to the nuthouse?
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Because I need you to get themon the line and have some straight
jackets come up here with this coffee. That is a politically incorrect way to
emotionally and unstable people. Okay,coffee, beans, nuts, it's all
in the same. We need somesort of intervention here, We need we
need you to be put in volunteer. You're more upset at me not drinking
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coffee than this proposed California bill whichwould outlaw methylne chloride. When they packed
the caffeinated is it a carcinogen oris it not? I don't know.
I'm saying that's what the story saysit is because wait, wait, there's
a carcinogen in cigarettes and that hasn'tbeen outlawed. Well, the existence of
one bad thing doesn't justify the existenceof further bad things. I would say
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that just because there is a carcinogen, that doesn't mean that it's been worthy
of being banned. So you're gonnatake this bold pro cancer stance, This
is admirable. Lie like this.No, no, no, there's a
carcinogen in alcohol. I am prothe ability to have a drink, to
have a smoke, it, evenhave decaffeinated coffee. Now, if you
want to say there has to bea warning label as there is on cigarettes.
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If you want to limit how itcan be advertised, as there is
a limit to the way you canadvertise alcohol and cigarettes, that's a different
discussion. I'll have that discussion,but damn it, when I get home
tonight, and probably you will too, we'll have a nightcat. Well,
let's meet in the middle on this. I think we can find some common
ground here. Anybody who wastes mytime drinking decaffeinated coffee, maybe you deserve
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cancer. How about that or aslap slap. I'm not gonna wish cancer
on anybody. I'm just trying tocompromise. Don't drink decoffinated decaffeinated coffee.
Don't do it. You are lowerthan low and I'm the person who's supposed
to be in the nutthouse. Goodness, gracious, you just around here wishing
cancer on people just because they don'tdrink your fully caffeinated coffee. Don't blame
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the people trying to compromise in youthe American way. You say I hate
America. Do you know how Americancoffee is? You might as well be
running around the office here in aspeedo with a rising sun on it.
Look at the top. Yeah,it's Later with Mo Kelly if I am
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six forty. How did we gethere? How did we get here?
With life everywhere? In the iHeartRadioapp, you're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on demand from KFI AM sixforty. Well, welcome to the party,
y'all, Welcome to the party.It's it's so funny hearing all the
discussions today across social media. OnTV, you even had political commentators talking
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about why is Caitlyn Clark not makingas much as the man? Why is
she only gonna make maybe three hundredand forty thousand dollars across the four years
of her rookie contract. And Isaid, oh, y'all so cute.
You haven't been actually following WNBA basketballor women's college basketball. You just came
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to it recently because of Caitlyn Clark. It's so cute. And your fake
outrage because you don't even understand howany of this works. You don't know
what a collective bargating agreement is.You don't understand how the NBA had to
fight for all these progressive rays increasesfor the players over thirty five years or
so. They had lockouts, theyhad strikes, They had all sorts of
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fights about revenue sharing and merchandise andbroadcast rights. And you say, well,
Kitlin Clark should be paid more.No, she shouldn't, because she
is being brought in under the twentytwenty collective bargaining agreement, which was negotiated
and agreed upon by two sides,the owners and the Women's Players Association,
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the union. It was agreed uponand there's a payscale, a rookie payscale.
It didn't matter if it was CaitlandClark or it was maybe Bethany Brown
in the newsroom, whoever was goingto be number one pick overall, they
were going to get that exact samecontract because that was collectively bargained agreement.
That wage scale was agreed upon.Why, because that's all the WNBA can
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afford. Realistically, you can't payCaitlin Clark the same as you did Victor
Winbeyama the number one overall draft pickfor the men in the NBA, because
they're not there as in the WNBA. They're not bringing in the same level
of revenue, they're not commanding thesame amount of money for their broadcast rights.
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In twenty fourteen, the NBA soldits broadcast rights for twenty four billion
dollars was ten years ago. Tenyears ago, and when they're renegotiated next
year, it's expected to sell fortwo point five times that. It should
be maybe sixty billion that'll be soldfor across many networks. The WNBA is
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not there. You raise that rookiepay scale and also the average pay or
minimum pay for all the players inthe league. By expanding their broadcast rights,
which they have to sell, they'vemade one step forward by selling.
I should say that that deal thatthe WNBA entered into with CBS, and
so the Indiana Fever and other teamswill be shown on national TV through all
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out the WNBA season, which Imight add is only half the length of
the NBA season. WNBA only playslike forty games. NBA plays eighty two
games. There's another point of comparison. But if you believe, if you
personally believe that Caitlin Clark should bemaking more money or the women of the
WNBA should be making more money thanit's incumbent upon you to put your money
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where your mouth is. That meanspurchasing a description, a subscription on the
w NBA League Pass it means buyingmerchandise, it means watching the events,
it means talking about the league andalso the games on social media. But
it just seemed like you just foundout about the league last year, maybe
last week, or nothing before,Caitlyn Clark. That's what it sounds like,
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because if you're talking about the women'spay and you don't understand what a
collectively bargained agreement or revenue sharing,how both of those things figure into the
rookie pay scale, which is lockedin and has been locked in for the
WNBA since twenty twenty. If youdon't understand those things, then yes,
it's going to seem like it's sounfair. It's just unfair. Kitlin Clark
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deserves more money. Did you seethe ratings for the NC two A game.
It's a different league. I don'tcare. It just seems unfair Kinglin
Clark, she was so good onSNL, she deserves millions of the get
an endorsement. I don't care.That's how you sound because you don't understand
how it actually works. And ifyou don't understand how it actually works,
then yes, it's going to seemunfair. The WNBA can't even afford can't
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even afford to fly all their players'private they still are flying commercial. Lakers
got their own team plane. Allthe NBA team's got their own team plane.
Why Because they're bringing in billions andbillions of dollars. The w NBA
is presently losing millions of dollars eachyear. Can that change? Absolutely?
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That's why you have a Kitlin Clarkand hopefully get a better TV deal.
But the point is you cannot paythe WNBA until they on the same level
as the NBA, until they startmaking NBA level revenue from ticket sales,
merchandise, jersey sales, broadcasts andstreaming rights soul. Until the WNBA performs
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on a level pun intended of theNBA in a monetary sense, then the
players are not gonna get paid thesame amount. I don't want to hear
about. Well, the women aredoing the exact same job as the men.
Oh no, no, no,we're talking about a business here.
Well, what about the ratings forthe NCWA. That's one game and that's
college that's not pro that'll do barngangbusters for the next TV deal for the
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nc two A tournament. But we'retalking about the NWNBA. The WNBA has
to demonstrate in this year, thistime, while they have Caitlin Clarks and
all the eyes of America watching.Since you're now in WNBA fan for all
of twenty minutes, you gotta putyour money where your mouth is and actually
support the league, not just you, but your family members, your friends.
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And then you will start to seeit more places. Because I remember,
Stephan, I don't know if youremember this, or maybe I didn't
tell you this, but Mark wouldn'tknow this because he wasn't here yet.
But when we first started the showand I had John Jackie Ray, we
were talking about the WNBA CUNC consistentlyand people were saying they were hitting me.
Then when I was on Twitter andother social media, why you're always
talking about WNBA. No one caresabout that league. No one cares about
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women's basketball. That's what I got. I have been consistent. I have
always been all in on women's basketball, women's soccer, women's tennis. I
am a legitimate fan. I cantell you about the teams. I can
tell you about the star players,the key executives, all of that.
And now people were sending around thismeme talking about Caitlyn Clark. Deserves more
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money. No. No, TheWNBA owners negotiated and collectively bargaining agreement keyword
agreement with the players union as faras salary and pay structure and revenue sharing
relative to the money they were bringingin, and the league wasn't bringing in
money. It is subsidized. Theleague is subsidized by the NBA. It
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is losing money, and they're stillpaying their players as at this moment,
is not generating a profit, sothere's no revenue to speak of to share.
If Caitlin Clark can be the catalystto change all that wonderful, I
am all for it. But ifyou're gonna send me that meme one more
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freaking time talking about how Caitlin Clarkis only as gonna make some four hundred
thousand dollars from her w NBA contractfor the first four years, You're an
idiot. You're dumb. You're dumb, dumb, dumb. You need to
stop sending it to me. You'rejust mad and loud and dumb. I
know that sounds harsh, but someoneneeds to tell you that because I've been
talking about w NBA for years now, and now you want to say,
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Mo, did you see this I'msurrounded by idiots. Not you, Mark,
Not that's around. I'm just sayingin the in the you know,
the bug sphere, in the inthe web and the worldwide web, of
course, of course, and getback to me when you're ahead of the
curve. On women's wrestling, wetalked WWE. We've had Bianca bell Air
on here twice. What are youtalking about? Okay, are you sure
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you work on this show? Stefan? Can you remind them how many wrestlers
we have on it? Let's seefemale wrestlers. Well, let's just focus
on that a little bit more.Please, all right, we've had a
number of female wrestlers, wrestlers ingeneral. Okay, I'm a fan of
wrestling, and I would like tomeet I think you should pay closer attention
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to the show. You might becomea fan. My goal is to do
that at some point. It's Ladywith mo Kelly. We have more w
NBA talk and Caitlyn talk because y'allneed to be educated and just woman.
You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
It's weird. I was watching cablenews. I was watching broadcast news.
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I was listening to commercial radio,I was listening to public radio, and
just about every outlet was discussing theCaitlyn Clark phenomena. That's good, but
also talking about the pay disparity inthe WNBA. That's bad because that's not
new. But people want to actlike, oh my gosh, this is
such a tragedy. This is justa this is something which just can't happen
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in America. It's unfair. It'sgender disparity. No, it's not.
It's not gender disparity. It hasto do with capitalism and revenue sharing.
And I'm gonna remind folks, andI leaned on Stephan but now I had
to go back and look it up. Do you remember Britney Griner. We
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were talking to Jackie Ray, whois a w NBA correspondent for night Cast
Media, and Britney Griner. Thatwas the biggest story in the nation,
how she pled guilty to having youknow, marijuana something something on her in
Russia and people were asking, whatthe hell are you doing playing in Russia?
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And we had the discussion. Thenthe WNBA players were not making enough
money in the WNBA, so theywere playing in international leagues. Russia at
the time was one of the toppaying leagues. That's how they were able
to afford a Britney Grinder. Ithink she was making about a million dollars
a year playing in Russia. Theysaid, why the hell would you go
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to Russia because they were paying.This is not a new issue. We
were discussing back in July of twentytwenty three and all you new found WNBA
fans did not care because you didn'tlike Britney Grinder. But the underlying foundational
issue was still there. It wasyou didn't care when those players not named
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Caitlin Clark, who had actually proventhemselves in the WNBA. You didn't care
when they were not getting paid.You just care now you can't even tell
me who is the number one playerin the draft last year. That's what
I thought, So save all theoutrage about this is so unfair. You
know what fair is for fairies forfive year olds, because when you're five
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years old, that's when your mamaand your daddy should have told you that
fair to that actually exist. Thisis not about fair This is about a
collectively bargained agreement between owners and theplayers union which dictates the payscale for the
subsequent years until the next collectively bargainedunion agreement. If you want to be
mad at someone, be mad atthe WNBA players Union, which agreed to
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this deal. Or you can bemad at the owners for continuing to subsidize.
When I say owners, they're usuallyNBA owners that own both the NBA
franchise and a WNBA franchise. Youcan be mad at the owners for subsidizing
the NBA, which would not existwithout the continued financial support of the NBA
team's slash owners. Having said allthat, there is an opportunity here to
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change the trajectory of the WNBA,and it was never more apparent than watching
the draft last night. I hadit on in the studio. It was
going on up until my show.It started a few hours before my show,
went into my show, and Igot to tell you it was well
done. The ladies were well dressed. You could tell they took advantage of
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the moment. And I don't saythis to be salacious, but the women
look beautiful and how they're being presented. It was a good way to showcase
the league and the growth of theleague, the impending growth. There were
a number of names in that draftclass that you and I both know because
of the storylines. We talked abouthow the storylines were so important. Because
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of the storylines of Caitlin Clark,you already know who Angel Reese was.
When they showed Paige Becker's from Yukon, who's not coming out this year,
who will probably be the number onedraft pick overall next season, you know
who she was because of the storylinebetween Iowa and Yukon in the tournament.
That's what grows the game, andyou will have some of these players coming
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out of this growth in the leaguewho will become stars, not w NBA
stars, but transcend the where casualfans, non fans know who these athletes
are. There are a lot ofpeople who have no interest in the w
NBA who now know who Angel Reeseis. For example, Okay, it's
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little by little, brick by brick, but if one more person sends me
that damn Caitlin Clark mean about howmuch money she's not making or deserves to
make her pay them what they're paythem what they're worth, I promise you
I will block you on site.I like blocking people anyhow. If I
had a block button for Mark Ronn. I would have blocked him ages ago.
You wouldn't. He always has somethingto say. I'd rather at least
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mute him, but I can't.I don't control Thank you, Stefan.
You don't have the willpower. Idon't have the means. Oh, I
have the willpower. I like blockingmother father's. I will block y'all left
and right. I will throw ablock party in them in a heartbeat.
I would be so empty without me, you wouldn't know what to do with
it. I'll put up those conesand those those concrete barriers around the studio
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and I will just block people therest of the night. I'll open up
my threads. I don't have Twitteranymore, but I'll open up every social
media app. I have a truesouls. I'll just get on there and
just block people. I have anaccount there. I don't even use.
Just block. I think you needto get back on Twitter and start arguing
with people again. I enjoyed that. Nope, I enjoy not going through
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the stress of people who were justtrolling. They didn't have anything constructed to
say. They were just mad thatI was in this time slot. Well,
I'm not going anywhere. Too badso said block. See there,
here we go. That's what Ilike. But to be serious for a
moment, just one of course,of course, let's bring it down.
This is a time. If youreally want to see the WNBA succeed,
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you actually have to act like it. You can't send me on one day,
going back to last segment, jokesabout how nobody watches the WNBA,
nobody cares about the women's game.It's bad basketball. You can't send that
to me last year, and thesame account send me this year. This
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is so unfair to Caitlin Clark becauseyou only care about the league now because
of Caitlin Clark. That is youronly point of entry. That's the only
name that you know. That's theonly thing you know about this sport.
And for all of twenty minutes thatyou've been paying attention, twenty minutes,
you want to tell me now whatI need to look out for, what
I need to discuss, what Ineed to be aware of of, you
know, just the unfairness of itall and your outrace. You're angry.
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You want me to do something aboutit. I want you to learn how
simple stuff works. When they renegotiatefor the last time, the collectively bargained
agreement which will dictate the rookie paystructure and contracts revenue sharing going forward.
That next agreement, which I believeis next year. I think it's like
every five years you will see adramatic increase in pay for not only rookies
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but also players at large in theWNBA. So fewer because of this moment,
fewer will have to go overseas toplay to just make ends meet.
Like a Britney Griner who made maybetwo hundred thousand in WNBA, but made
a million dollars in Russia, andyou were okay with her being jailed in
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Russia because she'd enact the way thatyou wanted her to act. But now
you're mad because Caitlin Clark is notmaking that money. Well, if you're
actually concerned about the WNBA, theleague, then you have to be concerned
about the league. Buy a tshirt, buy a ticket, watch a
game, call a friend. Idon't know what you need to do,
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but you have to actually support theleague. Get a subscription to WNBA,
League pass, whatever, Tune untillater with Mokelly as we talk about it
just about every week, shout outJackie Ray. You have to actually support
the league. And if you actuallysupport the league, then you can say,
hey, the WNBA salaries are increasingand people like Caitlin Clark are being
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paid there. But until you dothat, it will never happen. None
of your memes or hashtags mean anything. You actually have to support the league.
You're listening to later with Moe Kellyon Demand from KFI AM six forty.
But Steph, and I gotta askyou. I know you're a dog
lover like me. Coming up onSunday, Sir, is the Wiggle Waggle
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Walk. I'm gonna be there.Riley's going to be there, Benson is
going to be there. My wife, I don't know. She's still undecided.
She may just want to stay inbed. But the three of us
are gonna be there. I'm gonnameet all of you. The question I
have to you, Stephan, isare you going to be there? Not
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sure? I'm not syre like TimCammy, I don't know. Well,
if you'd like to come out andjoin us. The Wiggle Waggle Walk and
Run is one of Pasadena Humane's biggestfundraisers each year, with proceeds helping to
save lives of thousands of animals inour community with programs such as foster Care,
Kit Nursery, Animal ICEEU Wildlife andmore. I am part of the
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KFI team. I have donated insupport of Amy King, who's our team
captain, and KFI has been thetop fundraising team for the last three years
and we want to make sure thatit's fourth year. This year, we
want to keep our street going.We can only do that with your help.
You can go to kfiam six fortydot com, forward slash wiggle and
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it'll give you all the information therewhere you can donate. Process is fast,
easy and secure and you can besure that it will benefit animals in
need. So come on out SundayBrookside Park and Pasadena. It starts at
nine am for the walk, butthere are plenty of other things to do
hang out. I would love tosay hello to you. Riley, my
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younger Mini Schnauzer. He's antisocial.He will probably bark at you in everyone
who may come up to me.That's just who he is. Benson,
he's a little older, he's muchmore laid back. He just wants to
fight a place in the sun,to just sit down and just roll over
on his back. That's all hewants. I know that if I give
him that, he's happy. Rileyhe's an instigator. He'll take on coyotes
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or does not matter. I wasgonna say, does he ever get Benson
like in public? Does he gethim rolled up? Ever? Always?
Always? No, no, no, always. And they're kind of like
Abbott and Costello. One is lookingat the other, one's like, what
is wrong with you? That's agreat comparison. I mean, honestly,
like, what's wrong with you?This is like, I'm here to have
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a good time, get some snacks, you know, maybe yeah, maybe
have some people pet me. Andhere you are instigating, barking at people,
telling everyone to go away. It'scounterintuitive, is counterproductive. Get what
the program man? And they willfight at home for that reason. What's
the what's their age difference? Bensonis six, he'll be seven on Halloween,
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and Riley is four. He willbe five on November twenty ninth.
Oh wow, okay, yeah,so they're getting in the middle age.
Just Vinson is slowing down in thesense of he doesn't need to be jumping
around all the time. But hehas his moments where he will start wrestling
with Riley, just let him knowthat he's still the alpha in that relationship.
Oh yeah, But looking forward tothe Wiggle Waggle Walk, something we
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do each year, and I'm thisyear most definitely. And it's a good
time if you've never been. Thereare plenty of vendors, there's food,
there's souvenirs you can buy. Youcan meet with other pet owners and exchange
information and wisdom. And again,I'll be there and I'm looking forward to
meeting you, and I'll be outthere with my dogs. So I always
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talk about all the time, andthey're the joy of my life. They
are the kids who never grow up. You know, that make you mad,
but also they make your life reallyfulfilling. I can't speak for cats,
you know, there's just a differentrelationship going on. You know,
dogs are in fact different from cats. You really lit on something there.
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Yes, yes, yes, they'revery different. I understand that you're a
cat lover. Well, no,I like dogs too, But I just
don't have a yard where I canhave a dog. Well I understand that.
And when I lived in a townhouse, it was difficult. Before my
wife and I bought this house,we were living in my townhouse and it
had a balcony and Benson was theonly dog we had at the time,
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and he would use the balcony todo his thing on people below, which
was very funny. I can't bemad at the dog going outside and doing
what the dog is supposed to dooutside. Now, if you just happen
to be walking underneath my balcony atthe time, that's a U problem.
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