April 22, 2024 • 31 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on the fatal stabbing of a woman on LA Metro…PLUS – A look at the ongoing protests at USC in support of 2024 Valedictorian, Asna Tabassum, after her commencement speech was canceled AND the Los Angeles City Council’s plans to expand LAPD’s surveillance purview - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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KFI AM sixty's later with Mokela werelived everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Hopefully
you had a wonderful weekend. Ihad a wonderful weekend. Met some CAFI
listeners at the Wiggle Waggle Walk andRun. It was great being able to
sit out there with you. Infact, I was out there with Kenna
and her fiance and Alaska, theirdog. My dog tried to attack Alaska,
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even though my dog, Vincent,was only one fifth the size of
Alaska. But you know, that'show we get down. It's okay.
Alaska's friendly to all dogs. Eventhough no I said my dog was the
aggressor, I admit that I ownedit. He embarrassed me in the moments,
like look, don't it bears medog? And that's the one that's
hyper right. No, No,that's the older, more calm one.
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But for some reason, I don'tknow, maybe Alaska looked at him the
wrong way or something. It's theblue eye maybe, yeah, the singular
blue eye blue eye, like whoyou looking at. But it was a
good day. Was nice being ableto meet all of you. But now
we're back and unfortunately the real worldis getting in the way there's a lot
of heavy news which is going onright now. We have to make sure
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that you are aware of If youwere listening to Tim Conway Junior in the
past hour, you know that hewas following and passed to baton to me.
We're following the story of the LaCounty Sheriff's deputy who was shot in
the back today while waiting at aWest covinat intersection. The shooting happened at
about two forty five pm and WestCovina at the intersection of North Baranka Avenue
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and East Garvey Avenue South. Thegood news is the deputy, a nearly
twenty year veteran of the department,Deputy Acepureau, was treated at a nearby
hospital and he is in stable condition. It looks that everything is going to
be okay at this time. Butit was an unprovoked attack. It was
a shot in the back. Theyare looking for the assailant. A witnesses
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told investigators that there is possibly avehicle of interest, a white sedan with
tinted windows that was last seen drivingwestbound on the Interstate ten at from Baranka
Street. I know that's not alot of information, but that is all
which has been released to the generalpublic. Sheriff Luna recently had a press
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conference surprising us of this information andalso the deputy's status. If there is
more information which should come in,we'll make sure that you do have that,
so do not feel that you aremissing any part of that story.
We are continuing to follow it inthe KFI twenty four hour newsroom and we
will have consistent updates throughout the evening. But there's also something else. I
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was bumping around the internet, asI usually do early in the day,
and I say this with all seriousness. Sometimes I make predictions. Sometimes I
may talk about the things that I'mvery concerned about, and I don't want
to be right, but the availableinformation suggests that I'm more likely right than
not. Last week I went ona rant and I said, I've run
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out of things to say. Idon't know what to say. We've had
three different metro bus attacks within thespace of a week, and I was
out of words to say to expressthe amount of danger I perceived on La
Metro. I wasn't trying to behyperbolic. I wasn't trying to be sensational.
I wasn't trying to be emotional andover the top. I was trying
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to be fact based and dispassionate.I could not, in good conscience recommend
anyone that I cared about, familymember, friend, colleague getting on the
Metro because I think that it's fundamentallydangerous. Not dangerous in the sense of,
well, you could be anywhere anytimeand get hit by a bus type
dangerous. We're not talking about randomacts of bad luck. We're talking about
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a place which is more conducive tocrime and something bad happening to you.
And then Tim Conway Junior sent methe story. I had already seen it
at that point, but of courseby now you know of the woman who
was stabbed early this morning on aMetro subway train in her neck before exiting
in Studio City. She has sincedied of her injuries at a local hospital.
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I've told you more times than notthat I rode the Metro. When
I did, I would get onthe Blue Line in Long Beach and I'll
get on maybe six thirty in themorning, and it would take me all
the way to the Universal City stop. I know exactly what that stop is
like because I wrote it every singleday, and that's where I exited,
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and then I'll get off a UniversalCity and get the one fifty eight bus
and it would take me not toofar from Hollywood Way, and I'd walk
the rest of way to my job. I know exactly what that is like.
If you know this story. Thewoman unfortunately got on in North Hollywood.
North Hollywood is only one station away. She was only on the train
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for at most three four minutes,because that's the distance in between the stations.
She was attacked on the train.From publish reports, that means she
was attacked almost instantaneously upon getting onthe actual train. I don't know if
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the story would have ended differently ifthere was an actual police presence on the
train. I suspect that it mostlikely would have. And you have to
wonder at this point. I knowthat if you listen to the mayor's State
of the City address, she'd madecommentary to the fact that the trains are
safe and they're improving. Well,that's factually untrue, and people, not
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just me, are beginning to understandthat it's genuinely unsafe. Now. The
station is a busy one with commutersand tourists who come here to Universal City,
and it's the Bline trains which runfrom North Hollywood to downtown Los Angeles
and Union Station. We spoke topeople today who are very concerned about safety.
Is what we know is the attackoccurred on the train somewhere between the
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last stop and here at Universal CityStation. She then is able to exit
and the suspect. Suspect exits aswell, but the attack does occur on
the train. I'm a little bitafraid, and you're here. It on
the news that something can happen,but it's surprising that it happens on our
first day. The station is closedbecause of such a thing. I never
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feel safe on the chain. Youhave to stay very vigilant, be aware
of your surroundings because there's always somesort of chaos going on. Three incidents
last week on metro buses. Wehave one start off this week on a
metro train. This unfortunately ended inthe murder of a woman in another unprovoked
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attack. Of course, as thingshappen on Metro, we will make sure
that you're made aware of them,because I think an informed populace is most
important, and also if you're justtuning in, we are continuing to follow
the story of the La County deputywho was shot in the back while waiting
at a West Covina intersection. Heis presently in stable condition at a nearby
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hospital, and we'll have more.If you have any information about a white
sedan with tinted windows that was lastseen driving westbound on it from Baranca Street
in and around that time, pleasemake sure that you inform the local authorities
regarding that. It's later with moKelly when we come back, we're going
to talk about the protests going onaround the country at various universities, including
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USC, just over this past weekend. And like I said, I don't
like to be right about some things. But when we discuss last week,
and we said that at least indefense of the university, the university didn't
necessarily know where the story was goingto head, what other variables there were
going to be in the equation,whether the situation was going to escalate in
the Middle East. Well, allof that has happened. Now, all
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of that, and now there isa rising element of not only anti Semitism,
but protests and arrests around the country. Wimbo Kelly one six. We're
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live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app Andif you just tune in. We are
continuing to follow the story of theLa County deputy who was shot in the
back while waiting at a West Covinaintersection. He is in stable condition at
a nearby hospital. The search continuesfor the assailant, who was thought to
be in a white sedan with tintedwindows, was last seen driving westbound on
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the I ten from Barncas Street earliertoday. Obviously that why Sadan probably is
not in that location now, butas updated information comes in, we'll make
sure that you do have that.Just know that the KFI newsroom is on
that story and we are following it. And we recently had a press conference
update from Sheriff Robert Luna that wasaround six o'clock this evening. We don't
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anticipate another press conference, but ifthere should be one, we will bring
that to you live. And somethingelse which is going on locally of great
interests. We've discussed what's been happeningat USC, the protests which have been
ongoing. In fact, they werecontinuing over the weekend. The protesters were
marching in support of the twenty twentyfour valedictorian Osna to Boston. That's just
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one of many college protests going onaround the country, some of the ones
which have garnered more headlines are theones at Columbia and Yale, both universities.
Law enforcement has had to intervene,and there have been arrests of students
who are protesting. And let mejust make a brief comparison I said long
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ago, not in regard to this, but I'll say during the Black Lives
Matter movement, you have to bevery careful about who you may allow to
speak on your behalf and who maybecome part of your protest, because it
makes it very easy for forces outsideand I would say people with a minority
view hijack the message of your movement, of your protest, and then your
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protest is perceived completely differently from maybehow you originally intended it. Now,
I'm quite sure that the majority ofpeople who are protesting, I don't know
this for a fact, but Ibelieve this. I don't have any data
to support it, but I firmlybelieve that the majority of people who are
protesting at USC are connected to theValedictorian issue, and a smaller component of
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that is about the wider Israel Palestineissue. But when you go to Colombia
and Yale. I believe the predominantnumber of protesters are probably in support of
Palestine, not pro Hamas. Ithink there's a distinction which must be made
and should be made. They're notthe same thing. Supporting Palestine in a
two state solution is not the samething as supporting Hamas and what happened on
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October seventh. But there is arising number of voices that you're hearing in
interviews and then the protests which areblurring that distinction, and it makes it
more difficult for the people who havea legitimate issue to raise to be heard
and be heard clearly. Confrontation atColumbia police removing protesters from campus citing extraordinary
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circumstances. Columbia University President Manu Shaffikcalled in the NYPD to clear an encampment
of pro Palestinian student demonstrators. Theencampment set up Wednesday morning, the same
day Shaffique testified on Capitol Hill aboutanti Semitism on campus. We must uphold
freedom of speech because it's essential toour academic mission, but we cannot and
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shouldn't tolerate abuse of this privilege toharass and discriminate. In a letter to
the university community, Schaffique noted protestshave a storied history at Columbia, where
anti Vietnam demonstrators took over buildings oncampus in nineteen sixty eight, but in
asking for help from the police,she said, the encampment and related disruptions
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pose a clear and present danger tothe substantial functioning of the university. We
are risking, like our academic standing, just to like to show the administrators
that we are not okay with theirdecisions. Several demonstrators today stomping on an
Israeli flag, some students saying theyfeel unsafe on campus. I feel as
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though people arekind of weaponizing antisemitism.This is where we are in America right
now. And there's something else.I don't know if someone else has said
it, but I'm going to sayI know universities are going to bend over
backwards and be very careful about thesearrests on campus, because the last thing
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any of these universities would want isanother Kent State situation. If you don't
know what that is, go backto nineteen seventy, in which some college
students were killed by National guardsmen duringanti Vietnam protests. So there's a very
precarious nature of how the protests aregoing to be conducted, how they're going
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to be handled. And even thoughstudents may be arrested, universities are super
sensitive to not having an escalation ofthat nature of that kind. If students
are going to be arrested because theyare interfering with classes, the student life,
whe they're threatening other students, thatmakes perfect sense, but they don't
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want it to take the next step, which also goes back to the discussion
of USC and how USC was concernedabout what commencement could turn into. Let's
say last week you were firmly onthe side of the valedictorian and said she
should be able to speak regardless ofwhat's going on in the world, and
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we said, wait a minute,there are other concerns here. There are
other variables in the equation which couldimpact a smooth graduation. If you are
a trustee member at USC or theuniversity president and you see what's happening at
Yale and you see what's happening atColumbia, can you, and good conscience,
proceed as if nothing is going on? Can you proceed as if it's
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business as usual for commencement again,because we are on an escalating trajectory,
we're not on a de escalation trajectory. It is much more agitated today that
it was last week. The MiddleEast is much more complicated and unstable today
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than it was last week. Anduntil there's an indication that is going to
be moving in the other direction ofde escalation and calming of tensions, I
would expect all universities, inclusive ofUSC Columbia and Yale where they had arrests
there today as well as well,I have to assume that they would move
in the direction of anticipating further escalationand also in putting measures to further protect
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students and the campus that comes first. That's more important than anything. And
I'm quite sure someone who's on thebetween the age of eighteen and twenty four
and I remember when I was atGeorgetown University, I was much more of
an activist, borderline militant, fightthe power all of that. I remember
the person that I was, andI was a little bit too naive to
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see the bigger picture of the world. It was just for me. It
was right and wrong, black andwhite. There was no gray in between.
It was all of this or noneof that, no nuance. That's
how I thought as a twenty oneyear old, twenty year old, and
then you get older and you realizethat the world is far more complicated than
that, far more complicated, andabout much more than a singular speech by
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a singular student at one university.And how you may think that that's the
most important thing in the world,it isn't not when you combine all the
factors involved. It's Later with MoeKelly kiff I AM six forty Live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. We're continuedto follow the story of the sheriff's deputy
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who was unfortunately shot in the backin West Covina earlier today. As more
information does come in, we'll makesure that you do have that, But
if you're just tuning in, wewant to make sure you know that we
are on that story and we arecontinuing to follow it. You're listening to
Later with Moe Kelly on demand fromKFI AM six fortying. We're continuing to
follow the ongoing story the La CountyDeputy motorcycle deputy who was shot in the
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back while waiting at a stoplight ata West Covina Intersection. He is in
stable condition at this time, butthe Sheriff's department is asking for our collective
assistance. Witnesses told investigators that thereis possibly a vehicle of interest, a
white sedan with tinted windows, thatwas last seen driving westbound on it from
Baranca Street. This was around twoforty five pm earlier today, but it
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gives us some information to follow.If you should see something, definitely say
something. Contact local law enforcement.If you should see something which you may
feel or know something which may behelpful in helping bring this person to justice.
Also, another continuing theme on thisshow is the idea or issue of
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privacy. I have long said,and embarrassed mentioning again. I believe privacy
is an illusion. It's something thatwe think we have, It's something we
believe is important. It's something thatwe would like to tell ourselves that we
have, but I don't actually thinkwe have it, especially when you go
out in public. And I understandthat we don't have a constitutional right to
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the expectation of privacy in public settings, but at the same time, you
would like to believe or think thatprivate cameras aren't being used in the sense
of law enforcement or surveillance. Thathas been an ongoing debate as far as
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whether law enforcement could and should useprivate cameras, security cameras, traffic cameras
in the general surveillance of citizens likeyou and me. But the La City
Council is looking to expand the LAPDSurvey Len's program, and the City Council
approved the motion seeking to expand thisproposed surveillance program that would give LAPD real
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time access to private and business securitycameras. Internal and external law enforcement agencies
have created facilities with access to camerassuch as automated license plate readers, security
cameras at private businesses and residences.Did you hear all that businesses and residences
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as well as existing Department of Transportationcameras installed at large intersections, and they
have put all these facilities and abilitiesin one particular location. Individuals and business
owners would be required to opt intothe program in order to give the LAPD
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permission to access their live footage.LAPD officials expect to fund the program using
moneys from the state to address theORGANI Retail Theft task Force. Obviously,
the belief here is that this typeof surveillance will help stop or prevent or
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solve smashing grabs, I don't know, But there are two issues here.
One whether it would actually do whatit is supposedly designed to do. And
how extensive would that surveillance be.Is it something that would only be used
in the event of a crime ina particular location, or is it just
general surveillance where they'll be able towatch all the time in the event that
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something may or might happen. Letme go back to the top. As
far as this illusion of privacy,I assume, especially when I'm in public,
somebody something is always watching, beit a camera, be it a
person, be it someone's ring device. If I'm in my neighborhood, something
somebody is always watching. The questionhere is whether I'm comfortable with being wah
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watched for something that has nothing todo with me. In other words,
am I being watched just because I'mout on the street, or is this
video available at all times to lawenforcement? We don't necessarily know where it
begins and ends. It makes meuncomfortable, not because I'm out there doing
something that I shouldn't, but Idon't know how comfortable any would anyone would
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be if they knew they were justcontinuously watched all the time. Do you
want to be watched when you're atthe bar? Do you want to be
watched when you're on your front lawnsunbathing. I'm just saying hypothetically, if,
if all these cameras are connected.But there are all sorts of examples
in movies where this idea is discussed. There was the movie with Gene Hackman
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and Will Smith, Enemy of theState. There was the movie Eagle Eye
with Shilah buff They're all sorts ofimages. There was a TV show Mark,
remember the TV show Person of Interest? Thank you very much. This
is not a new idea, it'sjust now real and it's really happening.
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And there was a portion in Batmanthe Dark Knight in which Alfred has access
to every cell phone on the Earthand Batman uses it to track down the
Joker. Oh that was Lucia's Fox. Jesus Fox. He didn't want any
part of that, right, heknew about it, and he walked out
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of the room. It's almost asif there is something not so great about
living in a total surveillance police state. Almost almost almost. I'm not necessarily
sure that it will bring about thedesired result as far as smash and grabs,
could it help in an overall crimesense. I don't know. I
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don't know. I just know thatpeople overestimate the amount of privacy that they
actually have. I think people arenot really aware of how all this technology
and its connection could have all sortsof unintended consequences. Remember, they were
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just debating I think, reauthorization ofthe Patriot Act and all of that on
Capitol Hill. FISA, FISA,excuse me, PISA. This is all
connected. This is all absolutely connected. And if FISA makes you uncomfortable,
and the opaque nature of that whereyou can have these warrantless searches, what
do you think this is. We'renot it's not right next door. No,
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it's in the same house. Well, I gotta tell you just a
fact check here. Unless you're aforeign spy or working with them, you
really don't need to be worried aboutPISA. But the fact that every other
thing that you do in the realflesh world and online is monitored, that's
a thing. Well, you don'thave to necessarily worry about PISA, but
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that information is still being collected andall the like for example, Carter what's
his name? What Carter Page?Carter Page. Yes, I couldn't remember
his last name for some reason.Carter Page was the most i'll say,
public and obvious example of how PISAcan impact someone. The whole thing about
PISA is it's not just the personthat they're surveilling, it's the person who
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they may contact, the person whothey come into come in contact with,
the person that they may be around. Like for example, I've met Carter
Page a couple of times. Don'task it was a politicon. Okay,
it was a politicon. Wow,there's even a picture with him and me
on my site, mister Kelly dotcom. Your social circles baffling. It's
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hey, true story. You goto mister mo kelly dot com. There's
a picture of me and Carter Page. You and Carter went out after the
comic con and made it rain onsome strippers. No, it was politicon
and they were self employed models.Okay, sorry, But my point is,
Mark Ronner, if somewhere down theroad, my name were to come
up in a report or a personwho interacted with that could be disconcerting,
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right, That could be concerning,That could be a problem. Not that
I'm doing anything as far as internationalespionage. I'm just saying that we never
necessarily know where surveillance begins and ends. That's all. It's Later with mo
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Kelly, ca if I AM sixforty Live Everywhere True Story Me and Carter
Page romance fellas you know, buddies. Oh, I got to hear the
details of this off the Earth.We're Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app No
True Story. You can go tomister mo Kelly dot com. Look in
the gallery section. There's a picturesomewhere of Carter Page and be you're listening
to Later with Moe Kelly on demandfrom KFI AM six forty. And I
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don't know if you know this,but if you're going to see the cockpit
on a plane, you can doit. If the plane is still at
the gate. You know how.You get on the plane and the door
will be open. You can seethe pilots where they sit. You can
see all the controls. When youget on the plane. That's when you'll
likely see a kid or someone beinvited to the cockpit and then the pilot
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or the co pilot will show themwhere all the different buttons are. Like
in the movie airplane, but youcan't do it while the plane is in
the air, not legally, notfor commercial flight, not for a charter
flight. They're both governed by thesame FAA rules in that regard. When
I tell you that two pilots weresuspended after allowing a passenger in the cockpit
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mid flight, you should be shakingyour head like I am. The FAA
is investigating this unauthorized in flight cockpitvisit by a coach for the Colorado Rockies.
It was on the Colorado Rockies teamplane during what's called a United Airlines
charter flight last week from Denver toToronto. If you didn't know that that
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it was dumb to do it,it was even dumber to tape it,
because when you tape anything, thevideo is going to eventually get out.
The pilots at the very minimum shouldhave known that that pop doing it was
dumb. Taping it was dumber,and then you're putting not only your own
jobs in jeopardy and obviously the safetyof everyone in jeopardy. But you should
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have known that this is how thestory was going to end. Because video
surface earlier this week, I shouldsay late last week that appears to show
Rocky's hitting coach Hensley Mulins, sittingin a pilot's seat while the April tenth
flight was at cruising altitude about thirtyfive thousand feet. As I said,
it's against FAA regulations for unauthorized peopleto be on the flight deck. He
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could be seen and heard on thevideo joking with other people in the cockpit,
including a person in a pilots andat least one other person who does
not appear to be an airline employee. So there was like more than one
person hanging out in the cockpit.And just in case you were unclear about
where the law begins and ends regardingFAA procedures, there's this. So we
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know this is a clear violation ofsafety rules. How does something like this
happen? Well, it is aclear violation not only of United Airlives rules,
but of what we call the FAARFederal Air regulations that prohibit any or
unauthorized person in the cockpit during theflight. In fact, once that cabin
door is closed and the gate pushesback, no one can get up there.
In fact, that door is lockedand can't be opened. So bottom
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line here is those pilots are introuble, And basically anybody who wants to
do that can only do that atthe permission of the pilot when the plane
is on the ground and nothing isoperating. So if you've got your kid
with it and he wants to seethe cockpit, if you ask permission,
they'll let you in during the actualboarding process, at the discussion of the
pilot, and maybe after the flight. But once if that main door is
closed, that's off limits until theplane is finished and at the gate.
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I want to reiterate to our viewers, this was a charter flight. Airlines
are often hired to operate charter flightsfor sports, team, celebrities, et
cetera. Do you think there's aspotlighting a possible lacks in regulations that we
don't see in commercial flights. Well, of course there is a looser atmosphere
on a charter flight vieus. Thepresumption is you're in control of the plane
because you paid for it, right. But you know what, the federal
air regulations don't discriminate between a charterand a regular flight if it's operated by
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a commercial carrier. The rules applyto everybody, and that's why those two
pilots have it essentially withheld from servicespending this investigation. How do you not
know any better as pilots. Iunderstand that people make mistakes, but this
is not a mistake. You shouldknow in this post nine to eleven world
that you just can't let people intothe cockpit mid flight. You can't do
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it. And then you're going tolet someone or some one sore, maybe
more than one vide there actually tapeit, because we all know when they
videotape something, it's going to besent via a text message, it's going
to be posted on social media,it's going to be shared, it's going
to go beyond just the people involved. We share everything these days. We
can't keep any secrets. Of course, it was going to get out,
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and then, of course someone witha reasonable level of common sense would have
realized, you can't do that.It's against the law. You can't do
that. Ever, it's post nineto eleven. You cannot go into the
cockpit in the middle of a flightfor shits and giggles and just hang out
and take pictures. And there werea couple of other stories of pilots getting
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reprimanded and suspended for letting, likemodels and Instagram models sit in the cockpit.
It's like, you know, everyone, I'm not even a pilot,
Okay, I've never had a flyinglesson in my life, and even I
know that you just can't let peoplein the cockpit in the middle of the
fight. You can't do it.Can't do it. Can If I Am
six forty were live everywhere in theiHeartRadio app. Do you think we've got
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all the answers, Well, we'vegot news for you, chief. No,
seriously, we've got news right now. Kf I, KOST HD two
Los Angeles, Orange County, liveeverywhere on the radio.
KFI AM sixty's later with Mokela werelived everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Hopefully
you had a wonderful weekend. Ihad a wonderful weekend. Met some CAFI
listeners at the Wiggle Waggle Walk andRun. It was great being able to
sit out there with you. Infact, I was out there with Kenna
and her fiance and Alaska, theirdog. My dog tried to attack Alaska,
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even though my dog, Vincent,was only one fifth the size of
Alaska. But you know, that'show we get down. It's okay.
Alaska's friendly to all dogs. Eventhough no I said my dog was the
aggressor, I admit that I ownedit. He embarrassed me in the moments,
like look, don't it bears medog? And that's the one that's
hyper right. No, No,that's the older, more calm one.
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But for some reason, I don'tknow, maybe Alaska looked at him the
wrong way or something. It's theblue eye maybe, yeah, the singular
blue eye blue eye, like whoyou looking at. But it was a
good day. Was nice being ableto meet all of you. But now
we're back and unfortunately the real worldis getting in the way there's a lot
of heavy news which is going onright now. We have to make sure
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that you are aware of If youwere listening to Tim Conway Junior in the
past hour, you know that hewas following and passed to baton to me.
We're following the story of the LaCounty Sheriff's deputy who was shot in
the back today while waiting at aWest covinat intersection. The shooting happened at
about two forty five pm and WestCovina at the intersection of North Baranka Avenue
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and East Garvey Avenue South. Thegood news is the deputy, a nearly
twenty year veteran of the department,Deputy Acepureau, was treated at a nearby
hospital and he is in stable condition. It looks that everything is going to
be okay at this time. Butit was an unprovoked attack. It was
a shot in the back. Theyare looking for the assailant. A witnesses
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told investigators that there is possibly avehicle of interest, a white sedan with
tinted windows that was last seen drivingwestbound on the Interstate ten at from Baranka
Street. I know that's not alot of information, but that is all
which has been released to the generalpublic. Sheriff Luna recently had a press
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conference surprising us of this information andalso the deputy's status. If there is
more information which should come in,we'll make sure that you do have that,
so do not feel that you aremissing any part of that story.
We are continuing to follow it inthe KFI twenty four hour newsroom and we
will have consistent updates throughout the evening. But there's also something else. I
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was bumping around the internet, asI usually do early in the day,
and I say this with all seriousness. Sometimes I make predictions. Sometimes I
may talk about the things that I'mvery concerned about, and I don't want
to be right, but the availableinformation suggests that I'm more likely right than
not. Last week I went ona rant and I said, I've run
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out of things to say. Idon't know what to say. We've had
three different metro bus attacks within thespace of a week, and I was
out of words to say to expressthe amount of danger I perceived on La
Metro. I wasn't trying to behyperbolic. I wasn't trying to be sensational.
I wasn't trying to be emotional andover the top. I was trying
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to be fact based and dispassionate.I could not, in good conscience recommend
anyone that I cared about, familymember, friend, colleague getting on the
Metro because I think that it's fundamentallydangerous. Not dangerous in the sense of,
well, you could be anywhere anytimeand get hit by a bus type
dangerous. We're not talking about randomacts of bad luck. We're talking about
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a place which is more conducive tocrime and something bad happening to you.
And then Tim Conway Junior sent methe story. I had already seen it
at that point, but of courseby now you know of the woman who
was stabbed early this morning on aMetro subway train in her neck before exiting
in Studio City. She has sincedied of her injuries at a local hospital.
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I've told you more times than notthat I rode the Metro. When
I did, I would get onthe Blue Line in Long Beach and I'll
get on maybe six thirty in themorning, and it would take me all
the way to the Universal City stop. I know exactly what that stop is
like because I wrote it every singleday, and that's where I exited,
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and then I'll get off a UniversalCity and get the one fifty eight bus
and it would take me not toofar from Hollywood Way, and I'd walk
the rest of way to my job. I know exactly what that is like.
If you know this story. Thewoman unfortunately got on in North Hollywood.
North Hollywood is only one station away. She was only on the train
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for at most three four minutes,because that's the distance in between the stations.
She was attacked on the train.From publish reports, that means she
was attacked almost instantaneously upon getting onthe actual train. I don't know if
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the story would have ended differently ifthere was an actual police presence on the
train. I suspect that it mostlikely would have. And you have to
wonder at this point. I knowthat if you listen to the mayor's State
of the City address, she'd madecommentary to the fact that the trains are
safe and they're improving. Well,that's factually untrue, and people, not
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just me, are beginning to understandthat it's genuinely unsafe. Now. The
station is a busy one with commutersand tourists who come here to Universal City,
and it's the Bline trains which runfrom North Hollywood to downtown Los Angeles
and Union Station. We spoke topeople today who are very concerned about safety.
Is what we know is the attackoccurred on the train somewhere between the
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last stop and here at Universal CityStation. She then is able to exit
and the suspect. Suspect exits aswell, but the attack does occur on
the train. I'm a little bitafraid, and you're here. It on
the news that something can happen,but it's surprising that it happens on our
first day. The station is closedbecause of such a thing. I never
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feel safe on the chain. Youhave to stay very vigilant, be aware
of your surroundings because there's always somesort of chaos going on. Three incidents
last week on metro buses. Wehave one start off this week on a
metro train. This unfortunately ended inthe murder of a woman in another unprovoked
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attack. Of course, as thingshappen on Metro, we will make sure
that you're made aware of them,because I think an informed populace is most
important, and also if you're justtuning in, we are continuing to follow
the story of the La County deputywho was shot in the back while waiting
at a West Covina intersection. Heis presently in stable condition at a nearby
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hospital, and we'll have more.If you have any information about a white
sedan with tinted windows that was lastseen driving westbound on it from Baranca Street
in and around that time, pleasemake sure that you inform the local authorities
regarding that. It's later with moKelly when we come back, we're going
to talk about the protests going onaround the country at various universities, including
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USC, just over this past weekend. And like I said, I don't
like to be right about some things. But when we discuss last week,
and we said that at least indefense of the university, the university didn't
necessarily know where the story was goingto head, what other variables there were
going to be in the equation,whether the situation was going to escalate in
the Middle East. Well, allof that has happened. Now, all
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of that, and now there isa rising element of not only anti Semitism,
but protests and arrests around the country. Wimbo Kelly one six. We're
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live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app Andif you just tune in. We are
continuing to follow the story of theLa County deputy who was shot in the
back while waiting at a West Covinaintersection. He is in stable condition at
a nearby hospital. The search continuesfor the assailant, who was thought to
be in a white sedan with tintedwindows, was last seen driving westbound on
(09:00):
the I ten from Barncas Street earliertoday. Obviously that why Sadan probably is
not in that location now, butas updated information comes in, we'll make
sure that you do have that.Just know that the KFI newsroom is on
that story and we are following it. And we recently had a press conference
update from Sheriff Robert Luna that wasaround six o'clock this evening. We don't
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anticipate another press conference, but ifthere should be one, we will bring
that to you live. And somethingelse which is going on locally of great
interests. We've discussed what's been happeningat USC, the protests which have been
ongoing. In fact, they werecontinuing over the weekend. The protesters were
marching in support of the twenty twentyfour valedictorian Osna to Boston. That's just
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one of many college protests going onaround the country, some of the ones
which have garnered more headlines are theones at Columbia and Yale, both universities.
Law enforcement has had to intervene,and there have been arrests of students
who are protesting. And let mejust make a brief comparison I said long
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ago, not in regard to this, but I'll say during the Black Lives
Matter movement, you have to bevery careful about who you may allow to
speak on your behalf and who maybecome part of your protest, because it
makes it very easy for forces outsideand I would say people with a minority
view hijack the message of your movement, of your protest, and then your
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protest is perceived completely differently from maybehow you originally intended it. Now,
I'm quite sure that the majority ofpeople who are protesting, I don't know
this for a fact, but Ibelieve this. I don't have any data
to support it, but I firmlybelieve that the majority of people who are
protesting at USC are connected to theValedictorian issue, and a smaller component of
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that is about the wider Israel Palestineissue. But when you go to Colombia
and Yale. I believe the predominantnumber of protesters are probably in support of
Palestine, not pro Hamas. Ithink there's a distinction which must be made
and should be made. They're notthe same thing. Supporting Palestine in a
two state solution is not the samething as supporting Hamas and what happened on
(11:24):
October seventh. But there is arising number of voices that you're hearing in
interviews and then the protests which areblurring that distinction, and it makes it
more difficult for the people who havea legitimate issue to raise to be heard
and be heard clearly. Confrontation atColumbia police removing protesters from campus citing extraordinary
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circumstances. Columbia University President Manu Shaffikcalled in the NYPD to clear an encampment
of pro Palestinian student demonstrators. Theencampment set up Wednesday morning, the same
day Shaffique testified on Capitol Hill aboutanti Semitism on campus. We must uphold
freedom of speech because it's essential toour academic mission, but we cannot and
(12:16):
shouldn't tolerate abuse of this privilege toharass and discriminate. In a letter to
the university community, Schaffique noted protestshave a storied history at Columbia, where
anti Vietnam demonstrators took over buildings oncampus in nineteen sixty eight, but in
asking for help from the police,she said, the encampment and related disruptions
(12:37):
pose a clear and present danger tothe substantial functioning of the university. We
are risking, like our academic standing, just to like to show the administrators
that we are not okay with theirdecisions. Several demonstrators today stomping on an
Israeli flag, some students saying theyfeel unsafe on campus. I feel as
(12:58):
though people arekind of weaponizing antisemitism.This is where we are in America right
now. And there's something else.I don't know if someone else has said
it, but I'm going to sayI know universities are going to bend over
backwards and be very careful about thesearrests on campus, because the last thing
(13:22):
any of these universities would want isanother Kent State situation. If you don't
know what that is, go backto nineteen seventy, in which some college
students were killed by National guardsmen duringanti Vietnam protests. So there's a very
precarious nature of how the protests aregoing to be conducted, how they're going
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to be handled. And even thoughstudents may be arrested, universities are super
sensitive to not having an escalation ofthat nature of that kind. If students
are going to be arrested because theyare interfering with classes, the student life,
whe they're threatening other students, thatmakes perfect sense, but they don't
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want it to take the next step, which also goes back to the discussion
of USC and how USC was concernedabout what commencement could turn into. Let's
say last week you were firmly onthe side of the valedictorian and said she
should be able to speak regardless ofwhat's going on in the world, and
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we said, wait a minute,there are other concerns here. There are
other variables in the equation which couldimpact a smooth graduation. If you are
a trustee member at USC or theuniversity president and you see what's happening at
Yale and you see what's happening atColumbia, can you, and good conscience,
proceed as if nothing is going on? Can you proceed as if it's
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business as usual for commencement again,because we are on an escalating trajectory,
we're not on a de escalation trajectory. It is much more agitated today that
it was last week. The MiddleEast is much more complicated and unstable today
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than it was last week. Anduntil there's an indication that is going to
be moving in the other direction ofde escalation and calming of tensions, I
would expect all universities, inclusive ofUSC Columbia and Yale where they had arrests
there today as well as well,I have to assume that they would move
in the direction of anticipating further escalationand also in putting measures to further protect
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students and the campus that comes first. That's more important than anything. And
I'm quite sure someone who's on thebetween the age of eighteen and twenty four
and I remember when I was atGeorgetown University, I was much more of
an activist, borderline militant, fightthe power all of that. I remember
the person that I was, andI was a little bit too naive to
(16:03):
see the bigger picture of the world. It was just for me. It
was right and wrong, black andwhite. There was no gray in between.
It was all of this or noneof that, no nuance. That's
how I thought as a twenty oneyear old, twenty year old, and
then you get older and you realizethat the world is far more complicated than
that, far more complicated, andabout much more than a singular speech by
(16:27):
a singular student at one university.And how you may think that that's the
most important thing in the world,it isn't not when you combine all the
factors involved. It's Later with MoeKelly kiff I AM six forty Live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. We're continuedto follow the story of the sheriff's deputy
(16:51):
who was unfortunately shot in the backin West Covina earlier today. As more
information does come in, we'll makesure that you do have that, But
if you're just tuning in, wewant to make sure you know that we
are on that story and we arecontinuing to follow it. You're listening to
Later with Moe Kelly on demand fromKFI AM six fortying. We're continuing to
follow the ongoing story the La CountyDeputy motorcycle deputy who was shot in the
(17:15):
back while waiting at a stoplight ata West Covina Intersection. He is in
stable condition at this time, butthe Sheriff's department is asking for our collective
assistance. Witnesses told investigators that thereis possibly a vehicle of interest, a
white sedan with tinted windows, thatwas last seen driving westbound on it from
Baranca Street. This was around twoforty five pm earlier today, but it
(17:38):
gives us some information to follow.If you should see something, definitely say
something. Contact local law enforcement.If you should see something which you may
feel or know something which may behelpful in helping bring this person to justice.
Also, another continuing theme on thisshow is the idea or issue of
(18:00):
privacy. I have long said,and embarrassed mentioning again. I believe privacy
is an illusion. It's something thatwe think we have, It's something we
believe is important. It's something thatwe would like to tell ourselves that we
have, but I don't actually thinkwe have it, especially when you go
out in public. And I understandthat we don't have a constitutional right to
(18:22):
the expectation of privacy in public settings, but at the same time, you
would like to believe or think thatprivate cameras aren't being used in the sense
of law enforcement or surveillance. Thathas been an ongoing debate as far as
(18:44):
whether law enforcement could and should useprivate cameras, security cameras, traffic cameras
in the general surveillance of citizens likeyou and me. But the La City
Council is looking to expand the LAPDSurvey Len's program, and the City Council
approved the motion seeking to expand thisproposed surveillance program that would give LAPD real
(19:08):
time access to private and business securitycameras. Internal and external law enforcement agencies
have created facilities with access to camerassuch as automated license plate readers, security
cameras at private businesses and residences.Did you hear all that businesses and residences
(19:30):
as well as existing Department of Transportationcameras installed at large intersections, and they
have put all these facilities and abilitiesin one particular location. Individuals and business
owners would be required to opt intothe program in order to give the LAPD
(19:51):
permission to access their live footage.LAPD officials expect to fund the program using
moneys from the state to address theORGANI Retail Theft task Force. Obviously,
the belief here is that this typeof surveillance will help stop or prevent or
(20:11):
solve smashing grabs, I don't know, But there are two issues here.
One whether it would actually do whatit is supposedly designed to do. And
how extensive would that surveillance be.Is it something that would only be used
in the event of a crime ina particular location, or is it just
general surveillance where they'll be able towatch all the time in the event that
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something may or might happen. Letme go back to the top. As
far as this illusion of privacy,I assume, especially when I'm in public,
somebody something is always watching, beit a camera, be it a
person, be it someone's ring device. If I'm in my neighborhood, something
somebody is always watching. The questionhere is whether I'm comfortable with being wah
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watched for something that has nothing todo with me. In other words,
am I being watched just because I'mout on the street, or is this
video available at all times to lawenforcement? We don't necessarily know where it
begins and ends. It makes meuncomfortable, not because I'm out there doing
something that I shouldn't, but Idon't know how comfortable any would anyone would
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be if they knew they were justcontinuously watched all the time. Do you
want to be watched when you're atthe bar? Do you want to be
watched when you're on your front lawnsunbathing. I'm just saying hypothetically, if,
if all these cameras are connected.But there are all sorts of examples
in movies where this idea is discussed. There was the movie with Gene Hackman
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and Will Smith, Enemy of theState. There was the movie Eagle Eye
with Shilah buff They're all sorts ofimages. There was a TV show Mark,
remember the TV show Person of Interest? Thank you very much. This
is not a new idea, it'sjust now real and it's really happening.
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And there was a portion in Batmanthe Dark Knight in which Alfred has access
to every cell phone on the Earthand Batman uses it to track down the
Joker. Oh that was Lucia's Fox. Jesus Fox. He didn't want any
part of that, right, heknew about it, and he walked out
(22:30):
of the room. It's almost asif there is something not so great about
living in a total surveillance police state. Almost almost almost. I'm not necessarily
sure that it will bring about thedesired result as far as smash and grabs,
could it help in an overall crimesense. I don't know. I
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don't know. I just know thatpeople overestimate the amount of privacy that they
actually have. I think people arenot really aware of how all this technology
and its connection could have all sortsof unintended consequences. Remember, they were
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just debating I think, reauthorization ofthe Patriot Act and all of that on
Capitol Hill. FISA, FISA,excuse me, PISA. This is all
connected. This is all absolutely connected. And if FISA makes you uncomfortable,
and the opaque nature of that whereyou can have these warrantless searches, what
do you think this is. We'renot it's not right next door. No,
(23:37):
it's in the same house. Well, I gotta tell you just a
fact check here. Unless you're aforeign spy or working with them, you
really don't need to be worried aboutPISA. But the fact that every other
thing that you do in the realflesh world and online is monitored, that's
a thing. Well, you don'thave to necessarily worry about PISA, but
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that information is still being collected andall the like for example, Carter what's
his name? What Carter Page?Carter Page. Yes, I couldn't remember
his last name for some reason.Carter Page was the most i'll say,
public and obvious example of how PISAcan impact someone. The whole thing about
PISA is it's not just the personthat they're surveilling, it's the person who
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they may contact, the person whothey come into come in contact with,
the person that they may be around. Like for example, I've met Carter
Page a couple of times. Don'task it was a politicon. Okay,
it was a politicon. Wow,there's even a picture with him and me
on my site, mister Kelly dotcom. Your social circles baffling. It's
(24:44):
hey, true story. You goto mister mo kelly dot com. There's
a picture of me and Carter Page. You and Carter went out after the
comic con and made it rain onsome strippers. No, it was politicon
and they were self employed models.Okay, sorry, But my point is,
Mark Ronner, if somewhere down theroad, my name were to come
up in a report or a personwho interacted with that could be disconcerting,
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right, That could be concerning,That could be a problem. Not that
I'm doing anything as far as internationalespionage. I'm just saying that we never
necessarily know where surveillance begins and ends. That's all. It's Later with mo
(25:33):
Kelly, ca if I AM sixforty Live Everywhere True Story Me and Carter
Page romance fellas you know, buddies. Oh, I got to hear the
details of this off the Earth.We're Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app No
True Story. You can go tomister mo Kelly dot com. Look in
the gallery section. There's a picturesomewhere of Carter Page and be you're listening
to Later with Moe Kelly on demandfrom KFI AM six forty. And I
(25:57):
don't know if you know this,but if you're going to see the cockpit
on a plane, you can doit. If the plane is still at
the gate. You know how.You get on the plane and the door
will be open. You can seethe pilots where they sit. You can
see all the controls. When youget on the plane. That's when you'll
likely see a kid or someone beinvited to the cockpit and then the pilot
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or the co pilot will show themwhere all the different buttons are. Like
in the movie airplane, but youcan't do it while the plane is in
the air, not legally, notfor commercial flight, not for a charter
flight. They're both governed by thesame FAA rules in that regard. When
I tell you that two pilots weresuspended after allowing a passenger in the cockpit
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mid flight, you should be shakingyour head like I am. The FAA
is investigating this unauthorized in flight cockpitvisit by a coach for the Colorado Rockies.
It was on the Colorado Rockies teamplane during what's called a United Airlines
charter flight last week from Denver toToronto. If you didn't know that that
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it was dumb to do it,it was even dumber to tape it,
because when you tape anything, thevideo is going to eventually get out.
The pilots at the very minimum shouldhave known that that pop doing it was
dumb. Taping it was dumber,and then you're putting not only your own
jobs in jeopardy and obviously the safetyof everyone in jeopardy. But you should
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have known that this is how thestory was going to end. Because video
surface earlier this week, I shouldsay late last week that appears to show
Rocky's hitting coach Hensley Mulins, sittingin a pilot's seat while the April tenth
flight was at cruising altitude about thirtyfive thousand feet. As I said,
it's against FAA regulations for unauthorized peopleto be on the flight deck. He
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could be seen and heard on thevideo joking with other people in the cockpit,
including a person in a pilots andat least one other person who does
not appear to be an airline employee. So there was like more than one
person hanging out in the cockpit.And just in case you were unclear about
where the law begins and ends regardingFAA procedures, there's this. So we
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know this is a clear violation ofsafety rules. How does something like this
happen? Well, it is aclear violation not only of United Airlives rules,
but of what we call the FAARFederal Air regulations that prohibit any or
unauthorized person in the cockpit during theflight. In fact, once that cabin
door is closed and the gate pushesback, no one can get up there.
In fact, that door is lockedand can't be opened. So bottom
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line here is those pilots are introuble, And basically anybody who wants to
do that can only do that atthe permission of the pilot when the plane
is on the ground and nothing isoperating. So if you've got your kid
with it and he wants to seethe cockpit, if you ask permission,
they'll let you in during the actualboarding process, at the discussion of the
pilot, and maybe after the flight. But once if that main door is
closed, that's off limits until theplane is finished and at the gate.
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I want to reiterate to our viewers, this was a charter flight. Airlines
are often hired to operate charter flightsfor sports, team, celebrities, et
cetera. Do you think there's aspotlighting a possible lacks in regulations that we
don't see in commercial flights. Well, of course there is a looser atmosphere
on a charter flight vieus. Thepresumption is you're in control of the plane
because you paid for it, right. But you know what, the federal
air regulations don't discriminate between a charterand a regular flight if it's operated by
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a commercial carrier. The rules applyto everybody, and that's why those two
pilots have it essentially withheld from servicespending this investigation. How do you not
know any better as pilots. Iunderstand that people make mistakes, but this
is not a mistake. You shouldknow in this post nine to eleven world
that you just can't let people intothe cockpit mid flight. You can't do
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it. And then you're going tolet someone or some one sore, maybe
more than one vide there actually tapeit, because we all know when they
videotape something, it's going to besent via a text message, it's going
to be posted on social media,it's going to be shared, it's going
to go beyond just the people involved. We share everything these days. We
can't keep any secrets. Of course, it was going to get out,
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and then, of course someone witha reasonable level of common sense would have
realized, you can't do that.It's against the law. You can't do
that. Ever, it's post nineto eleven. You cannot go into the
cockpit in the middle of a flightfor shits and giggles and just hang out
and take pictures. And there werea couple of other stories of pilots getting
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reprimanded and suspended for letting, likemodels and Instagram models sit in the cockpit.
It's like, you know, everyone, I'm not even a pilot,
Okay, I've never had a flyinglesson in my life, and even I
know that you just can't let peoplein the cockpit in the middle of the
fight. You can't do it.Can't do it. Can If I Am
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all the answers, Well, we'vegot news for you, chief. No,
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