Pro-Palestinian Demonstrations, Reggie Bush’s Heisman & The Viral Load

ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Recap of the USC pro-Palestine demonstration AND thoughts on the reinstatement of former USC Trojan’s Football Superstar Reggie Bush’s 2005 Heisman Trophy…PLUS - An in-depth analysis of the most viral stories of the week in “The Viral Load” with Tiffany Hobbs - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

Episode Transcript

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You're listening to later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
Before we leave the subject altogether,regarding what happened what transpired at USC today,
let me briefly reset. I saidthat what happened at USC today,
those protests seemingly, and it waslater confirmed, had nothing to do with

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the original reason for why students hadamassed over the past weekend in support of
Valedictorian Ostina Tobassum, who was notwhose opportunity was rescinded to give a speech
at graduation. The protest today seeminglyhad nothing to do with her at all.

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And I have always said, becareful who you allow to co opt,
Be careful of who you allowed tospeak on your behalf, Be careful
who's the loudest voice at your protests. Your goals may not be their goals.
And next thing you know, theyhave co opted your moment, your
message, and then they're the onesspeaking to media, and the whole point

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of you being there in the firstplace is gone, is gone. And
now I found go ahead, Tiffany, you found the stated demands of the
protesters today at USC. Yeah,we found, and those demands are in
order from one to seven. Thestudents want a full transparency of USC endowment

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and investment. Who are the students, just the students. It's a very
vague every student title right right exactly, And that is a problem because it's
not clear. The second and it'snot true and it's not true. And
the second demand is that the studentswant USC as an institution to quote divest

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from Israel. The third is complete, a complete academic boycott of Israel.
The next one is to provide amnestyfor all Palestinian activists and activism. The
next one is to stop displacement ofthe South South Central community. I know
what that means in terms of wordmeanings. I have no idea what that

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means within the context of this protest. Yeah, completely unrelated. Then to
end policing on campus by defuncting theDepartment of Public Safety DPS, and to
disclose and severtize with lapd oh comeon. And lastly, to denounce the

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genocide of Palestinians and call for animmediate and permanent cease five. Waitmit,
that was number seven? That numberone and not number one, and nor
is number eight or nine or tenon this list anything? And you mentioned
of Asna to Boss, Well,that just verifies exactly what we were talking
about. This had nothing to dowith the actual issue on which the original

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protests was predicated. This had nothingto do with ostmen to Bostom, had
nothing to do with the speech,had nothing to do with commencement of graduation,
did not mention her or it atall, and all these other things
completely unrelated have now been put inthe mix. And the only reason we
mentioned is to show how outside forcesand agitators tried to co opt the moment

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and force their message on everyone.We're not saying it to give them sunlight,
but we're trying to say it toshow how these protests unfortunately go many
times, and that is a lynchpinof what a lot of activism in recent
years, at least in my experience, has become, and you lose sight

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again of the original issue, itbecomes exploited and again co opted is the
best word, and then minimized andreduced. We in the media have a
responsibility, especially news organizations, havea responsibility to not only recognize it,
but call it out, because ifyou don't get it right, then you've

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allowed these agitators and outside influences,you allow them to distort and abuse those
who may be of genuine and sinceredesire. You may not agree with the
whole absence to Boston issue, youmay not agree with the idea of pro

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Palestinian protests, but at least letit be coming from the people who are
actually there for that reason, notthese interlopers and these vagabonds who are coming
in and trying to take over aprotest for reasons having nothing to do with
anything which was actually going on inthat area today, but in policing on

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campus by defunding the Department of PublicSafety, And that has never been a
thing on USC's campus never. Andyou say the students, I'm quite sure
this is not any student at all. Now, and let's say, let's
say I wanted to take this seriously, Who am I supposed to contact,
good luck? Right? Who amI supposed to negotiate with on behalf of

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the university? Who if I wantedto have an interview with and and have
them explain this more thoroughly. Whoam I going to talk to? I
bet you it's not actually a student, right? I agree? You're listening
to later with Moe Kelly on Demandfrom KFI AM six forty. Most of
the night was spent discussing what washappening on USC's campus. From what we

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understand, nothing else has transpired onthe campus. It has been quiet.
We've been monitoring it from afar.Of course, if anything should change,
we'll let you know. Keep itright here. I'm quite sure Amy King
with what call will have anything onit if it should transpire. Course,
after that you have Bill Handle,then Gary and Shannon, John Cobelt,

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Tim Conway Jr. And us allover again. When I say us,
I'm talking about me and the latercrew. It's a definitely a team effort.
Want to thank Tiffty Hobbs for comingin earlier today. We asked you
to come in basically because we knewthat you knew better than most people what
was likely happening within that protest matrix. You understood what the campus was like

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as an alum, you understood whatthe surrounding city was like as a resident
in large parts. So thank youfor coming in. And do you have
any expectation or hope for tomorrow whatmight happen or might not happen. I
think it's going to die down,like these things do until the next time.

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As social media continues its campaign,it's polarized campaign, will see where
the students move toward, what theymove toward, what side of the argument
they want to amplify. The lastthing I wanted to mention MOE is something
that I found actually perusing social media, and it is true. It is

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not rumor or conjecture. It isabsolutely true. USC offers a minor in
something called resistance to genocide. Butit is a minor and it is a
minor that valedictorian Osna to Bossom willbe receiving a certificate for come this next

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commencement. Okay, if I understandyou correctly, Osna to Boston valedictorian,
Yes, part of her degree,yes, will be exactly what she cannot
speak out on and relate it towhat is happening right now. Can you
smell the hypocrisy? Is hypocrisy,it's irony, It's unfortunate, and I

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understand why USC was trying to coveritself and protect itself. They made the
wrong decision, and I believe theyunderstand that now. They could have said
we won't have any speakers. Theycould have said, you know what,
we need to fundamentally change our commencementexercises because of what's happening over there.

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We're not going to point out anyone, we're not going to point the finger
to anyone. We're doing this becausewe want this to be enjoyable for everyone.
But instead they pointed the finger ather and said, you and you
alone will not be speaking. AndI think set a lot of these events
in motion because this is not happeningat UCLA, or at least not as

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of yet. It's not happening atcal State Northridge, it's not happening at
Long Beach State, it's not happeningat cal State's biggest hills. It's not
happening at any of the local universities, which says to me, the only
reason it happened at USC was connectedoriginally to OSNA to Bostom, and then

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from there, these outside forces haveco opted the moment and the message.
It was a perfect opportunity. Itwas the perfect opportunity for these other organizations,
whether internal organizations that didn't feel heardor didn't necessarily have a platform until
Osna to Bossom was alienated, oroutside forces who wanted to latch on and

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again exploit this issue for their ownpersonal gain, as these forces and organizations
do. It was perfect crime ofopportunity. We have an opportunity and a
responsibility to drill down on these issues, and that's something I said we would
do from the top of the showtonight, to not take the protests at
face value, do not lump themall together and assume that they were all

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the same, because it has beendemonstrated, we've shown that they're not all
the same, and also they're notall sincere either. What happened at USC
is not the same thing which happenedat Harvard. It's not the same thing
which happened at Columbia and Yale andUniversity of Texas. Now there is some
overlap, there are some similar elements, but the motivating forces and factors behind

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it are not the same. Clearly, what happened at USC was done by
some local activists having nothing to dowith graduation, even though their list of
demands did not list it, didn'treference it, didn't even act like it
was even remotely connected to it.And I think we have a responsibility,
especially here at KFI, number onenews talk station in America, to be

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able to look deeper than just asurface story of pro Palestinian protesters. That
really wasn't what they were are forthat matter, It's not it. And
even though that might be the chironon different states, and that's maybe how
they're presenting themselves, that's not whothey are. And we can say that

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they're opportunists and activists and all thosethings, and that's a part of the
story. But we have a responsibilityto get it right. And if we're
going to get it right, wecan't broad brush and say everybody was out
there at USC and Harvard and Columbiaor anywhere else, University of Michigan,

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Emerson College and say they were allout there for the same thing. They're
all out there pro Hamas. No, no, that's not the case.
There's some people who have misappropriated themessage. There's some people who have some
very sincere desires and concerns legitimate nature. And there's some others out there who
have some nefarious interests and agendas.And we need to make sure that we

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expose all of it and we discussall of it and we don't fall for
the Oki dope. You're listening toLater with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
AM six forty there's some irony tothe news today because I thought, when
I wake up, I look atthe news, I open up my phone
and do all these things on thesenews apps, take a sampling from different

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areas of news. And I said, oh, Reggie Bush's going to have
his two thousand and five Heisman Trophyreturn. USC is going to receive a
replica. I thought that was goingto be the USC story of the day.
I'm a huge Reggie Bush fan.He is, for me, probably
the greatest college football player I've everseen. Oh maybe, and there's a

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good argument for Barry Sanders when hewas at Oklahoma State, but Reggie Bush
is right there. I don't thinkI've ever seen anything like him when he
was playing for USC, and itwas aim to me how they took his
heisman away for something that really didn'teven have to do with him. It

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had to do with his relatives.It wasn't anything that Reggie Bush did.
And then on the heels of that, to see how the landscape of college
football has changed with nil deals andhow you have players like the former USC
quarterback Caleb Williams, who had mademore than like five million dollars this past

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year. I know that Reggie Bush'sfamily didn't make five million dollars. I
don't think they made five hundred thousanddollars. It might have been the lowest
fifty thousand dollars. And for whatwas done to not only Reggie Bush,
to the USC Trojans, put onprobation and loss of scholarships, to even
taking away the two thousand and fournational championship, it seemed overkill. And

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then to hold on to the HeistmanTrophy for so many years. Now today
it was announced that he's going toget his Heisman trophy back. I don't
know how I would feel about itif I were Reggie Bush, given how
much money he made for the university. And there's a tie into this,
I promise you, Given how muchmoney he made for the university, they

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were selling jerseys with his number five. He didn't get any of that.
Now, USC they don't have thenames of players on the back, but
everybody know that that's Reggie Bush's number. They've made millions and millions and millions
of dollars off of Reggie Bush.And for him to be so summarily dismissed,
he couldn't even come on campus.He was disassociated from the university.

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I thought today was going to beabout that. I thought USC was going
to be best known in the headlinesfor that, and then life happened and
everything got turned upside down. AndI don't know what Reggie Bush feels about
that. I imagine that he probablythinks, well, a whole lot of

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time was spent tearing me down,removing me from the annals of sports history.
I remember that time he was personanon grata on university's campus in sports
circles. He couldn't attend the HeismanTrophy of Award ceremony forever at that time,

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because for every Heisman Trophy award ceremony, if you are a winner,
you can always come back to theceremony in future years for life. Well,
that privilege was taken away from him. I don't know how Reggie Bush
felt that when all of that shouldhave been in the rear view and there's

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some sunlight which should have been shownupon him, he was relegated to I
would say the back page as itrelated to USC. I don't know how
I felt about that, but Iwould feel some time a way, as
they say, But I got toask you, Tiffany Hobbs. As an
alum, you felt closer to it, and you were there in the aftermath.

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Yeah, bye, Reggie Bush.I went to school with Reggie.
You did, I did. Iwas there with him. I believe he's
two years younger than I am.But I was there with that class that
became you know, the documentary sensationon ESPN, This this famed class of
USC football players. I was therewith them and Reggie during our tenure.

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There was a celebrity on campus becauseof what he did for the morale of
campus. Wait, I got tointerrupt you there. He was bigger than
most celebrities because back then LA didnot have a professional football team, so
the USC Trojans were the defacto professionalfootball team for Los Angeles. He was
it. He was it, andmany of his of his players or those

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players were After what happened with Reggiehappened, there was a lot of criticism
of the university publicly from athletes,from people associated with university in every way.
And today I've seen lots of myfriends, athletes, football players who
played with Reggie during that three ortwo or three years he was there celebrating

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him because they've been on this crusadefor the last ten plus years to get
his heisman back. So and I'veseen Reggie respond to them. He seems
happy, But I agree with you, Mo, I do wonder if he
feels a bit slighted that he can'tcelebrate publicly as much as he might want
to, given that he was shamedso publicly for so many years. It

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was really unfair because when everything wentdown, the then coach, Pete Carroll
skip Town took a job with theSeattle Seahawks, so he didn't have to
stay around for all the aftermath,the probation, the loss of scholarships.
Yes, he've received criticism, buthe didn't have to deal with the consequences

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of his coaching staff's role in allof this. He did not suffer at
all. But Reggie Bush absolutely suffered. Yes, he did go on to
the NFL. He had a decentcareer, but his name was dragged through
the mud for years. It wasalways an asterisk by his name for all
of his accolades as an athlete atSC and so now to have that redemption,

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I hope it's sweet for him.It's certainly sweet for those of us
at the university or from the universitywho celebrated him then and since. But
yeah, to know that people wrotehis wave, rode his coattails, and
then also wrote the wave of justcompletely divesting from him. Is it's indicative

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of sc And we were talking offair about this, and I'll let you
go into that because I have alot to say. Well, I mean,
UFC made tens and tens of millionsof dollars of off of just Reggie
Bush, just Reggie Bush saying nothingof the Bowl money they got for going

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to the Rose Bowl or going tothe National Championship, winning the championship against
Oklahoma. I'm a sports historian.I remember all that. You know.
I almost cried like a baby whenthey lost to Texas. They should have
won that game. Yes, Idon't know what they were doing, But
the point is Reggie Bush gave moreto the university than a university and general

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society gave him. They took farmore than they deserve to take from him.
And I think this was the onlyway you could even approach making it
right. It's been almost twenty years. You can't get that time back,
but at least it was made right. I don't know how they're gonna handle
it in the record books. Youknow they're not gonna give back USC's national

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championship that they took away. No, And I know you can't undo it.
They vacated the title. We allknow who won USC one. It's
just the principle of the matter.And I think Reggie Bush deserved better because
he gave better. There probably arguablywas no better a college running back in

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the history of the game, definitelyin the past thirty forty years than Reggie
Bush. Bar Nune, I agree. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly
on demand from KFI AM six forty. It's time for the viral Load with
Tiffany Hobbs. Let's get into somelighter, fair move away from the sc
talk for a little bit. Well, mo, as you know by day,

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I'm a teacher and one of thesubjects I don't necessarily spend a lot
of time on from my high schoolersis cursive. It's one of those subjects
that you hope young people have beenexposed to. But the more and more
we learn, the more we findout that many people, whether young or

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older, are not well versed inreading or writing cursive. So this first
story comes from Reddit and Instagram.It's kind of in floating all over social
media. What happened was a picturewas posted and it was posted of a
cake. There was a cake.A person, a man decided to get

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a cake for his wife's birthday thirtythird or thirty fourth birthday, that doesn't
matter. What he wanted on thecake was the word thirty. So actually
she turned thirty. He wanted theword thirty on the cake with that nice
piping and actual words spelled out thirty. Okay, So this gentleman sends in

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the request to this bakery. It'sa form, it has all the specs
specifications on it. Things he wantsthe sizing, the colors, and the
word thirty, which is spelled out. But what he does is he submits
the form and the writing. Hiswriting is incursive. Normally that wouldn't be

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an issue. Most people thirty orover should be able to read cursive.
But what this gentleman found out isthat the person who received his order did
not know how to read cursive,did not disclose this information, just interpreted
his writing as what she thought itwas, which ended up not being thirty

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on the cake, but the wordhint t hi n t hy she took
what what the hell does that mean? There is no definition for the word.
She took thirty and turned it intohint t no follow Just excuse me,
I can't quite read your writing.What is it you want? No

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follow up? And put on thecake in beautiful piping on this luxurious birday
cake the word hinty right in themiddle. So when this gentleman got the
cake for his wife's birthday, hesaid, fortunately he had a big laugh.
He showed it to the wife.They laughed about it, so it
wasn't a party crashing moment. Butwhen he posted the picture, it went

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completely viral and opened up these conversationsabout how many people can't read cursive.
You did not include anything in thatstory which said he got his money back.
He did not get his money back. All hells no, he just
kept the cake. He was like, oh, just he paid for thirty.
He did quote unquote got hinty,got hinty. He paid money specifically

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for this cake to be written witha certain word on it. He did
not get what he paid for.Yes, he did not get what he
paid for. Now was hinty?Incursive? Hint was written in print?
In print it's just a dumb assworld we live in. It's dumb.
So people, if you're listening,please teach everyone around you if they're unknowing

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how to read and write in cursive. Please don't let this be a dying
arm. It's okay, honestly,it's okay if the person didn't know cursive.
But no, no, no,no, here's what here's what I
mean. But a reasonable employee shouldhave asked, I don't know what this
is. I don't know what thismeans. You spent I don't know one

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hundred dollars on this cake. Canat least double check to make sure you
get it right? Because I knowthat hinty doesn't mean anything. Maybe the
maybe this baker or decorator thought itdid, and rather than checking, they
went with their first mind, whichwas just to write what they thought.
This is gen Z, right,this is a gen Z totally a gen
Z story. A lot of thestories that make us go, oh my

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goodness, our gen Z stories.It just makes no sense. There was
a way to solve this. It'slike, I don't know what that person
meant. Have you worked at anycustomer service, like I don't know what
this person meant well, ask findout. But who's worst in the story
mode the decorator who wrote hinty ofthe cake. Sure, the decorator is
definitely worse. The purchaser. Okay, if you just want to forgive and

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forget, I don't agree with that, but that's your choice. But that
worker had an obligation. There wasa money transaction. Get it right,
And if you did, you obviouslyknew that hinty was not the word.
You were just making the best guessof something it looked like to you.
You had no idea and it nevercrossed your simple ass mind to at least

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ask no. And the purchaser didnot lose sleep over this cake. I'm
gonna lose sleep over this cake,right, it makes me bad. Twenty
six percent of Americans are also notsleeping very well. This is our next
story. There's a recent Gallup poll. Gallup is a research company organization that

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puts out their information, and thisGallop poll collected information on the sleeping habits
of Americans and they found that twentysix percent of Americans are managing to achieve
the recommended eight hours of sleep pernight, which means, if you do
the math, that seventy four percentof Americans are getting below eight hours.

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Not too revolutionary of a story,except when you add in that there is
a gender gap as well, andthe gender gap turns into the fact that
women are sleeping far less than menbecause of responsibilities that women feel they have
that are unequal to that of men. That is, that makes sense because

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you deserve less sleep than we do. Deserveless with the bridge winners, we're
doing all that have been lifting.You know you are. We deserve my
friend, very hinty. I justwant to make sure you're paying attention.
That's all paying attention. But again, this Gallop poll and its results went
viral because of course people are weighingin with their own examples of how much

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they sleep or don't sleep. SoI figured, let's do a little round
robin and ask how much is everyonesleeping per night? I get about six
hours six hours on average six hours. Depending on the night, I average
about five to six hours. I'mright there with you, Mark. I
need my beauty sleep to function,but my sleep's all over the map.

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Tawala is the one you want totalk to. Yeah, I don't think
anyone ges three hours at night.Maybe yeah, what about you, steph
uh yeah, probably four to fivehours, right, what really? Yeah?
People are nuts, but no,seriously, I love sleep, but
my body wakes up same I.It's not disrupted sleep. It's not interrupted

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sleep. It's just it's a prostatething with you. Not at all.
No, my prostate's good. God, but thank you for asking. Okay,
how many times a night? Let'sjust get it all out there.
Well, it depends if I shouldhave any alcohol that irritates the prostate,
since you need to get all inmy pants and everything. Okay, well
we are listeners transparency into your pants. So if I don't drink alcohol because

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that does irritate the prostate, Idon't have to get up in the middle
of the night. If I shoulddrink alcohol or drink water right before I
go to bed, which is ano no. Yeah, then I'm going
to get up two or three times. I think my prostate's going to file
a restraining order against me. Lookat the time, okay, Steah,
that's what you get to look forwardto. Hey, you're listening to Later

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with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFIAM six forty. Let's continue with the
viral load an Tiffany Hobbs. Hereare a couple feel good stories to round
out this edition of the Viral Load. This next story comes from TikTok and
it involves a man who took hisyoung son toddler's son to a trampoline park.

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You've ever been to a trampoline park. It's where you go jump around?
Right, very simple? Sure Ihave? Did you actually jump?
No? No, no, no, I watched my younger family members jump
from around. I know my limitations. I'm not going to I'm not gonna
bust my ass and it should comewith an ice pack. Yeah, no,
I don't play with fire like that. So this father was also standing
by and watching his young son jump, and what he captured on video and

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as pictures is what went viral becauseof course he shared everything to social media.
So this is what happened. Thisfather has this young kid, seven
year old son, and the sonis in the middle of one of these
trampolines and he's jumping. He's havinga good time, when all of a
sudden, these unrelated teenagers, twoof them boys, walk up to his

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son and kind of flank him onboth sides. So the dad's on alert.
He's thinking the worst, they're gonnabully, push, intimidate, whatever
the case. But what he findsthat happens is the complete opposite. These
two teenagers start helping his seven yearold son jump. They're holding his arms

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kind of helping propel him into theair. The seven year old falls as
they do, they pick him up. They're jumping with them, and it's
this beautiful moment where these kids andthis seven year old boy are playing together.
The father is so taken by thismoment that again he takes pictures and
video. He uploads them to TikTokand they go viral now having been seen

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millions of times across these platforms,because the father is saying this is how
kids should be raised nowadays, thatthese two teenagers were prime examples of respectful
kids in a time in his opinion, when kids are not as respectful as
one might want. No, they'renot. They need their mouth washed out

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with soap. They need to beput in their place. They need Look.
I always say, beat your kidsso they don't grow up and breaking
my house. I am a firmproponent of corporal punishment. Spank your kids,
yes, please, I don't carehow unpopular that may be in today's
world. Yes, you need torun for office. No, I don't
need to do that. I justneed to use this microphone to remind people.

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Make sure you spank your children,because I don't want them to grow
up to be like Mark Runner.As you was saying ahead, you're gonna
look, I saw Mark kind ofweighing and should say something. Last feel
good story and it's literally a feelgood story because there is a cruise line,

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mo. This story is for you, a cruise line out of Miami
that is set to launch its firstever nude cruise in twenty twenty five.
So you have little less than ayear everyone to get yourself the way you'd
want to be seen news on acruise with thousands of strangers. Those things

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are better an idea, not reality, No pun intended. I'm serious.
You know you think of like goingto a nude beach or something. If
you've been like the San Diego Ithink it's black speech. Yes, okay,
the idea is much better than thereality. I want people want to
think it's like Tom Cruise and NicoleKidman, eyes wide shut and all that

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kind of stuff. It's not that. It's not that you get to see
a lot of people who should notbe walking around nude, okay now,
and I'm not going to do that, So I'm not going to say that
I'm any different. It's just thisis the Norwegian Cruise Line, so very
popular cruises it is, and theyare launching on February third of twenty twenty

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five, so you have about eightwhere they're going. They are going to
be sailing to the Bahamas, SanJuan, Puerto Rico, Saint Lucia.
They're kind of going through the Caribbeanand it will be an eleven day voyage.
It has been dubbed the twenty twentyfive Big Nude Boat. I wonder
how the crew staff handles that.It just seems would be weird. Handles

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two different words, okay, dealswith manages. It works with very carefully.
Yeah, it just very tenderly.Hopefully it's not attractive to me.
My thing is I'm glad they're goingsomewhere warm, because that would be a
pity. Imagine the sunburn that youcould get. Sunburn. Yeah, that's

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the least of my concerns that.You know, if they want to get
sunburned, they can get sunburn.It's just not I just don't know the
appeal. And I have some friendswho are nudists and we've had this conversation
on a number of occasions. Forme, I just don't get it.
You know. I don't even walkaround my own house nude. I just
don't do that. Yeah, itfeels very vulnerable. It's a little too

(34:08):
little, too free for me.Yeah. Look, look, but I'm
even in the shower. My dogswould have looked at me like I need
to go away, because they'd bestaring. It's like, what, it's
this weird. It's just weird.Dogs aren't smart. Listen, You're right
about this. The people who wantto be nudists are never ever the ones
you want to see nude. Iduring college, I had a friend who

(34:30):
drove an ice cream truck down toUh this already sounds weird. He would
take it down to the nude park, beach whatever in Spokane, Washington,
believe it or not, and hewanted me with him just for safety and
the people. Then, the sagging, leathery naked people who came up to
this ice cream truck would give youPTSD. I'm not kidding. Yeah,

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that's never been the thing. Imean, I could tell you some other
things where the idea is better thanthe reality. It's just not suited for
the radio. And they're so fidin And we're not body shaming or age
shaming. I was rich Corinthian leathershaming. Go ahead, Stephani heard that

(35:13):
one, Go ahead, No,okay, Oh, there we go.
Speaking of nude beach, as yousaid, you know you've made, maybe
experienced a nude beach. Quick storywhen I was younger, I want to
say about four or five. AndI'm sure my mother is cringing and going,
don't tell this story. But wehappened upon a nude beach, that

(35:34):
nude beach in San Diego when Iwas four or five, and so I
saw my first descriptive as Mark justdid. Leathery, tanned, sagging people
coming towards me at four and five, just out there, very happily.
And we did not stay long.It was a quick stop off on a
trip I think back to La orto San Diego for a dip in the

(35:57):
ocean, and got a lot morethan what we bargained for. Yeah,
when I went, it was Iwas a senior in high school as a
matter of fact, and I wasThey were given like a tour of UC
San Diego. That was one ofthe schools i'd applied to, got in,
took the tour down there. Itwas my backup school. But then
you have time to kind of seethem. Yeah. Yeah. So I

(36:21):
had the car driving around. Ihad heard about black speech, so I
said, let me just pull upto see what's going on. See what
I can see. Nah nah,Now European beaches, look out, South
Beach, Miami, look out.There's some stuff to see down there.
Well, this cruise line is startingin Miami most so if you go,
I'd rather go to South Beach.I don't want to go on the cruise.

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