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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
And I know for a fact thatI said it at one point, maybe
two different points. I said thatthe Sean Combs the Ditty story was only
just beginning, that there would bemore accusers, more people would be coming
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forward, more revelations. Also saidthere'd be more videos, but there's still
time for there to be more videos. Well, here we are. Diddy
is being sued for sexual assault bya sixth accuser, six in six months.
The new lawsuit for sexual assault filedagainst Combs, alleges that Colmbs,
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as in Diddy, met the plaintiff, Crystal McKinney, back in two thousand
and three after an unidentified fashion designerand fighter invited her to a dinner at
the Cipriani Downtown during Men Fashion Week. According to the lawsuit, the male
designer carefully crafted McKinney's look to pleaseColmbs, not sure what that means,
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and then ordered her to sit directlyacross from Combs at the table. Quote
this is from the lawsuit. Onceseated, Combs made a very public display
of coming on to plaintiff in asexually suggested manner, which continued throughout the
dinner. Throughout their interactions, Comswas flirtatious, bordering on leering, as
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he leaned across the table towards her. Combs also plied plaintiff with alcohol throughout
the dinner, as he repeatedly refilledher glass with wine. The lawsuit alleges
Combs invited McKinney back to his Manhattanrecording studio, and she believed it was
safe to join him because it wasa professional setting as opposed to a personal
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residence or hotel. She claimed thatCombs passed her a joint that she believes
was laced with a narcotic, andthen led her to a bathroom as she
felt increasingly intoxicated. In the bathroom, according to the lawsuit, Colmbs forced
himself on plaintiff and began kissing herwithout her consent. Combs then shoved her
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head down to his crotch before commandingher to as you might imagine from there,
plaintiff refused, but Colmbs pushed herhead down onto his and forced her
to perform oral sex on him.In the filing, McKinny says the assault
made her physically sick and she passedout. A short time later, she
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woke up in shocked to find herselfin a taxicab heading back to the designer's
apartment. And it goes on.But this is what I've been talking about,
This is what Tawalla's been talking about. And he has not been criminally
charged with anything. This is beyondthe statue of limitations. This is a
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civil suit. He is presumed innocent, obviously in a criminal sense, until
he is charged and proven guilty ina court of law. He has not
been deemed liable for this sexual assaultlawsuit. But I will say this,
and I will use the same yardstickand metric that I use for Bill Cosby
and Harvey Weinstein and anyone else forSean Combs to be innocent, and he
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has maintained his inn a sense ofevery allegation for that to be true,
that he would need to be innocentof every allegation from every accuser in every
facet and manner. It doesn't matterif he only allegedly sexually assaulted one woman.
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That still makes him a rapist.And it doesn't necessarily mean that every
accusation against him is legitimate. Thereis room for both being true. But
I do know after a certain point. The law of averages suggests that if
you have a number of allegations comingforth, it's reasonable to believe that somebody,
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probably most of the women, aretelling the truth. We didn't believe
Cassie. When I say we,I'm saying the general public. We didn't
believe Cassie when she first dropped herlawsuit that all of a sudden the bone
flew out of the closet being thevideo, and then that changed the conversation.
People started to perk you up andrealize, oh, oh, oh,
there is something to this. Wehave a total of six accusers who've
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come forward. One there's video tosupport it. I happen to believe from
what I've seen in that video,if Diddy was willing to do that in
public, I'm quite sure there areplenty of other things we don't know about
that he likely did in private,and these other lawsuits I happen to believe
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are indicative of that. And Cassieshe started this in the sense of bringing
all this to the public's attention,and she hasn't said anything since her lawsuit
was settled with Diddy a day laterafter her filing it, but she did
say this on Instagram and other socialmedia quote, and it was just printed,
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nothing of videotaped quote. Thank youfor all the love and support from
my family, friends, strangers,and those have yet to meet. The
outpouring of love has created a placefor my younger self to settle and feel
safe now. But this is onlythe beginning. Domestic violence is the issue.
It broke me down to someone Inever thought I would become. With
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a lot of hard work, Iam better today, but I will always
be recovering from my past. Thankyou to everyone that has taken the time
to take this matter seriously. Myonly ask is that everyone open your heart
to believing victims the first time.It takes a lot of heart to tell
the truth out of a situation thatyou were powerless. In close quote,
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I think that one thing I'd liketo definitely highlight in the story about this
new accuser primarily something that you andI saw time and time again. More
being on video suits, shoots,be it at parties, be it at
conventions, be it all over.We have seen individuals at the clubs putting
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a bottle service. Explain what thatis for people who don't going to a
nightclub and just buying bottles upon bottlesof champagne, being in the VIP room,
high rolling, so to speak,and oftentimes I would see women lining
up at VIP in VIP. Iremember being at video shoots and why women
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just being plied with drinks and I'dalways think to myself, this is not
going to end well. I haveactually been one time I was actually a
part of producing a concert where atone of the after parties at the hotel,
it turned into a sexual assault situationbetween one of the groups entourage is
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that was there. Please please,please let this be a teachable moment.
These individuals that you think are ourstars or celebrities or any of that,
these individuals are capable of doing youincredible harm. If they're trying to just
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load you up with drinks and thingslike that, please know they don't have
good intentions. Well, and alsothere's a power dynamic here when you think
of did he when he was athis peak of popularity and power, and
I've seen it firsthand where you havedozens and dozens of women and I'm not
blaming women, just creating a picturewho would want at least access to him
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because he was a kingmaker when itcame to making or breaking careers. Some
people can handle that. Some peoplemisuse that power because at their heart they're
just evil. And you see thesesituations and cases that we're hearing about now,
but they were much more commonplace backthen, and Towala, you're right,
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you know, when they start playingwith the alcohol, and it was
actually something that you would see inthe music videos in commonplace. It was
a common picture of music videos whereyou had all the women made. It
be in a hot tub or inthe VIP section of a club, and
it was called bottle service. Therewere bottles of dom Perigon and you know,
all sorts of it, high pricedalcohol, which was a symbol of
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excess and power at a time inmusic industry and the parties was how you
could meet a diddy, How youcould meet someone who was rich and powerful
and famous who could advance your career. It's not like the casting counsel where
you'd have a meeting with an agent. No, you would meet them wherever
they were. It could have beena strip club, it could have been
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a regular club, could have beenon a video shoot. If you wanted
to meet Diddy, you have togo meet Diddy where Diddy is, and
I was the club and that iswhy we have said time and time again,
Diddy is. But the first story. Why do we say that?
Because this what we're hearing now.This was prevalent throughout the music industry.
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Way too many individuals who held theupper hand in that power dynamic use that
to abuse women, to coerce women, to drug women, and all of
that. More and more of thesestories. As you have individuals brave like
Cassie coming out, you're going tohave more and more individuals coming out with
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these truths. Here's another prediction,okay, and I don't think it's anything
nostradamus like, but I'm trying toremind you that we kind of know what
we're talking about. This is thesixth accuser. There will be at least
three or four more. I'm confidentin that the people will eventually come forward
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and the stories will be similar,and you will get to see an emerging
pattern and the question who has well, why did they come forward sooner?
Because there was a threat of violence, real violence? How do we know?
Because we saw it on video withCassie. We saw it. It's
not a large leap anymore. You'relistening to later with Moe Kelly on demand
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from KFI A six forty mister moKelly here live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
This is the golden age of television. And when I say that,
I'm saying it because of streaming weget all this great movie quality content that
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we would never get otherwise. AxelF, the latest in the series of
Beverly Hills Cop movies, would neverhave gone to theaters. In fact,
it would never have gotten made thinkingthat it was going to be a theatrical
release. But since we have thisstreaming universe which includes Netflix. Netflix paid
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the money and produced it and AXLFis going to hit Netflix on July third.
For me, it's perfect because andthis is what we're going to play
the trailer just a second. Forme, I just want to see the
band get back together for one lastride, and in the trailer it's clear
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that happens. The only reason whyyou would do another Beverly Hills Cop is
to get the band back together.You're not trying to make two hundred million
dollars at the box office. You'retrying to get all the Beverly Hills Cop
fans together in unison. And fromwhat I can tell they have all the
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original cast of those who are stillalive, because we're talking forty years since
the original. You're gonna get obviouslyEddie Murphy, You're gonna get Judge Reinhold,
You're gonna get John Ashton who playedSergeant Taggart, get Bronson Pinchot,
even get Paul Riser. People forgethe was in the original. And you
have some present day stars like JosephGordon Levitt, even have an appearance by
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Kevin Bacon and others in this.And that's assuming that there aren't any Easter
eggs. I'm all in. Itdoesn't have to be great. I just
want to know what has happened toeveryone that we used to know in the
Beverly Hills cop series. And fromwhat I can tell, this story has
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to do with Judge Reinhold's character whatwas his name, Billy, Yeah,
Yeah, Billy, Billy Rosewood.Somehow he's in trouble. Axel has to
save him. Here is the trailerfollow Did you say Foley boy? Cos
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I didn't realize that you couldn't reallyfire other one, I would have came
up with a different idea. Itold you it was a bad idea.
Well, this is very embarrassed,you know, part of me rather to
get locked up and get putting thislittle Fisher Christ looking squad car. Y'all
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are the lego cops. Jane,and this is your father. Before you
hang up, I'm in town.I've been arrested. Hello you show y'all
paying you those bills because this phonedon't work. This isn't my first time
at Beverley Hills. Yeah, Isaw that four eighty seven and then ninety
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four, but this place has changedto pay what things? You're back to
nine of two on now. Theygot a call from Billings. He's in
trouble. Now, what do youwant for me? I want you to
eat a cop again. You gottado something you like. You don't any
shitty property. You're in a snowplow. Yeah, we only gave snow powels.
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The problem a lot of blood spotsand the snowplows. Fine morning,
I'm gonna come on me and showme waiting for me. You're pissing off
a lot of people. You knowthat means we get it closer. Jo
y'all save everybody safe. There's noseatbelt in the middle. He look a
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seatbelt for that, We're gonna someback up. What are you doing?
You're getting them back up? Gothis two ex he got all the Easter
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Egg throwback references down to the soundtracksoundtrack. You know, the Neutron dance
Pointer sisters. I don't know whodid that rendition of it, but still
that's all I want. The gangis back together. They're going to do
one last ride together. From thetrailer, looks like they brought Taggart out
of retirement. Yes, yes,because he was already in his forties.
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I think of character Wise in nineteeneighty four, so it's not like he's
going to be working in another fortyyears on Beverly Hills Force. It doesn't
just look like they brought Taggard outof retirement. It looks like they brought
him out of a hospice. Okay, look, I think he's had some
health issues. Okay, you areso cruel. Listen. I'm just telling
you what I was watching this beforeI came into cartage. Just no,
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I'm not. You know, allthe nostalgia stuff that I immerse myself in,
you can't even say that, allthe old shows and stuff that I
love and watch constantly. Listen tome. Over the weekend, I found
a show by Dan Curtis, TheDark Shadows Guy, a TV movie that
I'd never seen. I thought I'ddied and gone to heaven. But sometimes
it's okay to let things go.He may only be in one or two
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scenes. He's seventy six years old, Okay, a hard seventies. You
know what I'm noticing? Mark,No, today, there is an entire
era of stuff you don't like.Because anytime we talk about stuff that's from
back of the day and we likeit, you always can roadhouse the nineties,
the eighties, that you go rightto the fifties, sixties and like
that's the good stuff. No,no, no, make no mistake.
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In fact, I remember my grandmotherbought me because the young people like that
stuff. The original Beverly Hills Copssoundtrack LP. I had this classic of
all that stuff. But I mean, so what Eddie Murphy Axle, so
what so what? That's so what? Okay? But the point was he
said soundtrack. He didn't say amovie. It's a distinction of that of
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difference because we are talking about themovie and you just said at yeah,
you're right. I only liked thesoundtrack and I didn't care about the movie.
My friends and I used to haveall the Eddie Murphy's stand up and
wait stand up routines. We're stillskipping this movie. You're going to stand
up routines. We're talking about BevervillseCop. I like the original movie,
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all three of them, as wellas anybody did. And in fact,
I'll tell you it is as sadas his trailer made me when Eddie says
he called in reinforcements or backup.If they'd gone to a clip of Bridget
Nielsen, I would have been deliriouslyhappy. Do you remember her in the
second? But I'm saying, whoknows? That might be one of the
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surprise cameos they brought her back forfor Creed. That is true, hy
possible. I would love to seethat. But sometimes you just gotta let
things go. This is not oneof those times. No, no,
no, no, this is thisis what what Star Wars couldn't get right.
They look if they want to continuethe franchise, fine, they don't
find but they've given you. Ifyou're gonna have an Axle left movie,
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you have to have one more timea Billy Taggert axle and uh stage.
Then they got to address some stuffas a fan of Top Gun Maverick,
which I know you mo are.At least they addressed why Maverick is whatever,
age he was approaching sixty and stilljust a regular old pilot. Okay,
now they will, I'm quite surethey'll say that he was captain.
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He was not just a regular pilot. But you know, at that age,
and one of these things that Ihave gleaned recently from watching a bunch
of war movies and stuff, howyoung the commanders are on all the ship.
Captain Kirk was in his mid thirties. For God's sakes, the character
was written that way. Okay,So the point is Eddie Murphy's in his
mid sixties and he's still a copsswinging off the back of trucks and stuff.
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Also, I tell you I haven'the's never met Tom Cruise. No,
but that's my point. He's sixtyone doing all those stunts. Which
point is this exactly? My pointis it's okay, right, it's still
with the action if you say so. But what me If I say so,
You see, we gotta go toa break, but we're gonna continue
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this on the other side of latercan't I answer forty everywhere the iHeart Radio
app. Live everywhere on the iHeartRadioapp. And we were right in the
middle of a discussion where Mark waswrong and Twala and I were right a
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quote discussion. Yes, please proceed. As we were commenting on the trailer
which was released today for the newAxel F, which is the latest movie
in the franchise of Beverly Hills copTo. We're in agreement, We're ready
for it, we like how it'sbeing presented. Get the whole gang back
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together so they can do one lastsay caper, whatever it may be,
one last ride, Mark paraphrasing itsucks. I was a little Let me
just de escalate this a little bit, okay, by telling you I saw
something online for a thing that isheld in La semi regularly called the Hollywood
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Show, and I thought, holycrap, this is my complete wheelhouse.
I need to find out if theyneed like moderators or interviewers or anything like
that. So it's not like I'meven remotely anti nostalgia, okay, but
I'm just telling you that this trailerin particular made me really sad. I'm
trying to figure out how that washelping your cases detour of New Mexico for
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no reason to do Beverly Hills cap. You're making this big case for nostalgia
and the gang back together. AndI'm saying I'm not anti nostalgia. I'm
just saying I'm anti this particular thingbecause it's pathetic. Oh, you couldn't
be further from wrong. I mean, you couldn't be more wrong. The
whole point of doing this movie isto see whatever happened to Billy, to
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see whatever happened to Tagger, tosee what axle Folly is doing. Now
you know, and actually you willprobably answer the question why is axel Folly
still on the force? Why ishe still a detective? And I suspect
it's probably the same reason, sinceyou want to invoke top Gun Maverick,
the same reason that Maverick had notbecome an admiral like Iceman because he was
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a mess up. He didn't listento orders. He always went off on
his own. He was destroying propertywhatever, just like Maverick destroyed that that
supersonic jet, super secret supersonic jetin the beginning of the movie. Yeah,
just too much of a loose cannon. That's the whole weapon. Riggs
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and Murti. They got up tocaptain and they got busted back down because
they kept blowing up stuff and ruinedthings. Same with bad Boys for life.
There's there's a theme here, justtoo much of an effective alpha male
for the rest of society. Whywhy you just can't enjoy it? I
hate America? Din'd you just enjoya movie? Look? Just go kick
a baby. I mean, Ithink there might be some hyperbole being employed
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here, but I mean it lookedextra lousy because I've got a visceral reaction
whenever I see any hackneyed, clicheridden thing where there are people in any
vehicle whatsoever, and they look ateach other and go ah, I mean,
come on, hire a writer.Wait, wait, wait, wait,
this is this is an action comedy. It's not deep cinema. It
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certainly isn't. No, but wasthe first Beverly Hills cop was the second,
was the third. It's not likethey took a detour started with the
jokes all of a sudden, right. It's not like four Love and Thunder.
No. I'm not saying that they'retrying to emulate Bergman movies or anything
like that. It's just This onelooks especially like a cheap cash grab,
That's all I'm saying. How couldbe a cash grab when it's on Netflix.
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Oh, I'm sure Eddie Murphy isnot getting paid anything the same people.
No, no, no, no, no, it's free with the
subscriptions. Like, it's not likeI'm getting charged more because it's showing it's
all goodwill and altruism. There's nomoney changing him saying that. Should I
have been thinking? He has adeal with Netflix, having nothing to do
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with Beverly Hills Cop. He's gota few pictures in the works, and
he's putting out content to serve thatdeal. Content They guess what people want
to see. And this is anaction movie. It's not like he's just
you know, rolling over and justmailing it in. Oh no, no,
he wouldn't do that, would he. He's never paid anything like Pluto
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naph What what could I be thinking? You act like this is plos not?
How do we know that? We? All we know right now is
the trailer which stinks. The trailerdoesn't stink. Okay, there's our hang
up right there. When two peoplecan watch the exact same thing and have
radically different opinions, of reality.It's called Fox News. One of them
is crazy, and that one personis the two of you. The one
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way your math is your math ismath? What math? There's three of
us already in your equation plus more. Well, I'm counting both of you
as having fifty percent of a legitopinion, thereby making a one versus so
disrespectful. When any Murphy comes inthis studio and we interview him, I'm
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going to point him to you andsay that mother, father right there said
the trailer was trash. When canI pencil this into my calendar? Mom?
Look, he's listening right now.We're going to work out something.
He never misses a show, Yeahhe does not. He texts me after
it. I'm just trying to workit out with his schedule. He's a
very very busy dude. Oh I'msure he's got time in his schedule for
you. I mean, the disrespectis unmatched. And then and then he'll
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say something smart later and I waslike, oh my gosh, you don't
sound sincere. You would never giveme a compliment because because he knows he
doesn't deserve one the links. You'regoing to to defend this road, apple
of a trailer. I can't believedo you have do you have stuck in
the movie at all? You're notinvested in it in any way at all,
because you have to be. I'mcalling balls and strikes. I am
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looking forward to this. I'm anxiousto see it. I'm eagerly waiting to
see it. I'm excited. Imean we all, I mean we like
Doritos every now and then. Wedon't eat health food all the time.
So if you want to enjoy sometrash, that's up to you. I
don't care. Jesus, man,Jesus who did a number two in your
coffee? Man? You're trying toright now, I know you needed to
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watch the movie. I'm gonna watchit regardless, and I will enjoy it
for what it is, just likewhen they did the sequel to Coming to
America, just like when they've doneother, uh, any of these movies
which you're finding out whatever happened toThat's all I want. I'm not asking
for some complicated story. I cansay, wow, Eddie Murphy was really
acting in this, or wow,how they really reformulated the whole franchise.
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I don't care about any of that. I want to be entertained. Plus
it's important that he does now becausehe's literally reaching out and saying, hey,
I'm going to get these people togetherright now while I can. We
are not getting any younger. Ineed to get the old gang back together
so we can complete this story.And it's not This is not a story
where no one was asking for Peoplehave been asking him about this for years
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in interviews, So this is thestory. His story wasn't complete. No,
it was not happened to any ofthe characters. And we know that
to know when are you gonna doanother addition to the film. That's that
And he has said that many times. People keep asking when am I gonna
do another one? And this isn'tthe first time he was gonna come with
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it. But see that takes meback to the beginning of my thoughts where
I said, thanks to streaming,this could happen. It would have never
been released in theaters because it's notgood enough for theaters. No, no,
no, it's not worth the investment. Because of the amount of money
that they spent on this, it'sless likely they would get their money back
intoday's cinematic environment. It would failin theaters if it ever even made it
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to them. Thank you for makingmy point. Give me like Killers of
the Flower Planets. Oh the clock, the clock, I remember that,
BS. You were talking about thatbad, horrible piece of crap movie.
Did you even see it? No, you didn't see this, and you
called it trash and the trailer forthat was trash. It was trash.
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That's the boss right there. Butit is Look at the time. Yeah,
I'm looking at it. Yeah,the referee called a break here.
I guess we have to do it. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly
on demand from KFI AM six forty. And before we go tomorrow, the
crew is going to go to themovies to check out Furiosa and uh,
we won't be able to have itfor the runner Report. But what are
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you doing for the Runa Report tomorrow? Anyhow? I got to make a
new plan because that would have beenthe thing to talk about. So I'm
sure it'll be something enlightening and entertaining, though I don't know about that,
and perhaps insulting, well, insultingdefinitely. Yeah, I haven't come up
with anything yet. I'm gonna lookat the new releases when I'm off work
this evening. Okay, all right, all right, the Westman Call come
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out the New Jennifers. Yes,it does come out tomorrow. I am
going to watch that actually tonight whenI get home, because it'll be after
midnight, and then I can Iassume it pops up at midnight. Yea.
Jolla and I had discussed that awhile ago, and I hadn't decided
on it yet, but that isa likely candidate. I'll tell you no,
it's a good one. I mean, she did this movie on Netflix
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about her and her daughter's like theDaughter or something like that. It was
the Mother, the mother, themother, the daughter, whatever. But
it was pretty good. It's prettygood. And this is a point we
were making with axel f. Itwas fine for Netflix. I remember Matrix
Resurrections. That was a perfect exampleof tying up the franchise. I didn't
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think it was that good, butit was fine to watch on streaming.
If I had paid twenty dollars forone ticket to watch at the theater,
I would have been angry. Idon't have the same level of expectations for
a streaming sequel which is going totie up a franchise, So you're kind
of grading on the curve when itcomes to Netflix, then okay, No,
I grate on a curve for anythingon streaming. That's why we call
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it rated in for Netflix. That'snot necessarily saying it's good. It's saying
it's good for streaming. At thehouse. You can pause it, you
can go walk around, go walkthe dog, whatever, come back to
it. You're not committed like youare in a theater. I like The
Mother. Had I seen The Motherin theaters, I might have been like,
no, right, No, itwas fine when I was making my
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breakfast, I remember, you know, and just sitting there playing on the
computer, looking back and forth.But no, it was fine for that,
and I think axel F at theminimum will be fine for that.
I skipped The Mother. I musthave just thought it was half a word
or something. I am gathering fromwhat you're saying that you like a movie
that you just fall asleep in yourchair watching. I don't fall asleep my
chair watching because I fell asleep inmy chair watching that Aquaman bs. Okay,
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I didn't like that. Oh okay, we finally agree on something.
Thank god, we can close outthe show on a point of mutual agreement.
The Aquaman movie was a code brown. Well, tomorrow we will be
seeing Furiosa and we'll let you know, probably via social media, what we
thought about it. And also tomorrownight we have named that movie called Classic.
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We're going to set off the MemorialDay weekend in style. We'll see
tomorrow. KFI AM six forty liveeverywhere in the iHeartRadio app. You're listening
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