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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
I was talking to Mark Runner earlierabout growing up loving sports, how we
were exposed to sports, the sportswe played, the sports that we watch,
and Mark made a great point aboutfather son relationships and how oftentimes dad
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is the one who will introduce youto something. And an extension of that
love affair with sports is the announceror broadcasters connected. If you're from LA,
I need not tell you. Ifyou're at least thirty five forty years
old, you know that LA hashad the best professional sports announcers ever.
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The late Vince Scully with the Dodgers, the late Chick hern with of the
Lakers, Bob Miller with the Kings, and I can run a much longer
list if you just talk about insouthern California, it's about the relationship with
the team and also your local announcer, but also you have the national announcers.
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It could be Al Michaels if it'slike NFL football, or John Madden
if you remember him. That iswhat usually drives the popularity of broadcasts.
You have to have something that pullsyou in. It's not just a sport,
it's the announcer broadcaster as well.I mentioned that because Wednesday, as
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in yesterday, the NBA announced thatgames will be broadcast on Amazon Prime Video,
not TNT, not ESPN, notABC, And it's Classic Inside the
NBA Show. If you know anythingabout that program, it is probably the
most popular basketball analysis program ever ever. It had Ernie Johnson, it had
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Shaquille O'Neill, had Kenny the JetSmith and others, and Charles Barkley,
and they would rotate other people inevery now and then. But it was
really, really, really funny.And just because a sport is popular,
it doesn't mean that it is aspopular wherever you put it. Last year,
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we talked about how YouTube paid billionsof dollars to have the rights for
NFL games Sunday Ticket and that wasa horrible deal. Why because people were
not going to search for Sunday Ticketor red Zone on YouTube. You didn't
have the type of poll, Youdidn't have the broadcasters or the announcers to
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really make that a robust experience worththe money, not for you, not
for me. And similarly, whenyou talk about the NBA, when you
put games on Amazon Prime and Isay this as someone who loves the idea
of streaming. You have to makethings e Z and accessible. When the
NBA rights were held by TNT,which is a division of Warner Brothers,
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people who had cable could still findthe games if you're watching like the National
Games on ESPN, because they havea portion of the deal as well.
They were easy to find because peoplehad cable and you can find it on
streaming, and even when they wereon ESPN, they probably were simulcast on
ABC Broadcast Network. What NBC isdoing, they're removing that cable component.
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Amazon Prime is a fully streaming optionnow. They may they may offer some
of this on one of their cableoutlets like Bravo or something like that.
I don't know. I don't know, but part of the reason why T
and T was so popular was theavailability and accessibility. It was easy to
find and people knew where to findit. The NFL has already tried experimenting
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with Amazon Prime showing football games.It was not very successful. They've tried
it on Twitter. It was notvery successful. And although folks who are
younger than me and you are verycomfortable with watching media on their devices or
streaming it. When you're talking aboutsports, that's not usually the place.
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We're not there yet. We liketo be able to find it relatively easily.
And Amazon Prime is not the placeor space that you go for sports.
It just isn't you know. Ihave Amazon Prime, but I don't
know how many basketball games I'm goingto be watching on Amazon Prime. Going
back to broadcasters, I don't knowhow many I'm going to watch when I
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know that I can't find my favoritebroadcasting trio to watch the games, pre
during, and postgame analysis. That'sa part of the whole experience. And
if you've ever turned into tuned intoT and T even they had an online
portion. I don't know if youknow this mark where you could watch the
game without broadcasters. You could watchit from different camera angles. It was
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well integrated into this online space.I like that it's like living in the
future. But I am also heartenedby the fact that we're gonna see more
boxing on streaming now because I usedto have so much fun getting together with
buddies with you know, with yourbooze and your cigars and whatever you have
to watch boxing matches, and thenall of that moved to pay per view
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and became out of most people's spendingrange. Well, it's gone like full
circle. Once upon a time itwas closed circuit and it was really really
difficult to get the fights. Thenit went to pay per view and you
had the golden age of boxing inthe nineteen eighties and nineties, where the
idea of a fight party was aroundboxing. Now with mixed martial arts in
the UFC, you can have afight card every single month. But it
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doesn't to me, and I'm verybiased, it doesn't have the same type
of pageantry or build up as atop fight night, a top boxing match.
The problem with boxing is you getthose premiere matches every now and never
the top fighters almost never fight.Yeah, that's a whole other issue.
But if Netflix, for instance,is going to start showing fights, I'm
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for that. At least it's movingin the right direction. Yes, I
am for that as well. AndI want a little bit more competition though,
And you have what Jake Paul isdoing, and I can't call that
boxing. Those are just a circusmatch. Ye, they're pr events,
Yeah, but he's charging sixty fourto ninety five for each event. It
is ridiculous and fools and I domean this. Fools are paying for it.
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I will not be. No,I never have and I never will.
And I think it's diluted the ideaof a boxing pay per view event,
and I wish we could go backto that where you'd see the top
boxers in the world square off.Yeah. I don't know if his fight
with Tyson is back on again.Supposedly it's for November, Okay, supposedly.
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I am looking forward to seeing Tysonabsolutely mercilessly smoke his ass. I
would like him too, but Idon't know he will, if only because
Tyson is now fifty eight years oldand he's fighting a twenty seven to twenty
eight year old guy Tyson. Ifit were only a two or three round
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match, I would look at itdifferently. I wouldn't want to get hit
by him. No, I wouldwant to get hit by him either.
I'm just saying fifty eight is fiftyeight, and the last time we saw
Evander Holyfield fight, he got hisass whooped by Vitor Belford, you know,
and they are not the same guysanymore when they're in their late fifties.
I understand that late fifties is notlate twenties. But Tyson is a
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monster. He is, and no, he has not lost anything as far
as power. I don't know whetherhe is. I just let me put
it this way. You and I, with our histories and martial arts,
wrestling, whatnot, we've come upagainst people like for me it was Bill's
superfoot Wallace. Yeah. I meta number of years ago who are just
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like walking around freak strong. Yesthey are. No matter how well worked
out and toned and in shape youmight be, these guys are just like
an order of magnitude, stronger andmore monstrous. I feel like that about
Tyson. You you're you're not goingto approach him? Well, no,
No, Bill superfoot Wallace, worldclass athlete. Yeah, Mike Tyson,
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world class athlete. Sometimes I thinkwe get a little caught up in thinking
that the fifty eight year old MikeTyson that we see in the TikTok videos
at thirty seconds at a time,last over five six rounds against someone thirty
years his junior. I don't know. I can't wait to see that though,
Well you know either can I Ijust won't pay for it. Sounds
like a good excuse for a partyover at Shane Mo. Yeah, you
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are you picking up the tab forthe fight? Because I said I'm not
going to pay for it. Ifeel like I'm kind of down with something.
That's what I thought. I guesswhat's this cough? I guess we
won't be watching it by legal means. That's all I'm saying. Well,
COVID here if I am six forty, we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
And when we come back, we'regoing to tell you as we get
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closer to our Deadpool in Wolverine conversationat the bottom of the hour, did
you know Kevin Fige just got astar on a Walk of Fame, the
Hollywood Walk of Fame. We'll tellyou about that next. You're listening to
Later with Moe Kelly on demand fromKFI AM six forty. Just about maybe
a little less than an hour anda half, I'll be at a movie
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theater seeing Deadpool and Wolverine. Andif you know anything about Hollywood, everything
is done with a plan, apromotional plan. And part of the promotional
plan for the movie was there wasa ceremony in Hollywood today. Kevin Figi,
the Marvel Studios president. He's Iwill say, the father of the
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mcu the Marvel Cinematic un Verse aswe know it, received his star on
the Hollywood Walk of Fame today,And if you didn't know, he is
the two thousandth seven hundred and eightyfifth person to receive a star. And
he's only fifty one. He looksolder, but he's only fifty one.
And the people who showed up alongsidehim, Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman as
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Deadpool and Wolverine hits theaters today.If you think this is a coincidence,
it's not. Also, you hadChris Evans, the original Captain America.
You had Chris Pratt, Guardians ofthe Galaxy, Brie Larson, Captain Marvel
out there, David Harbor, he'sa red red Guardian, Simoulu from Shaan
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shehe and Catherine Hahn from WandaVision,Agatha Agatha all along coming up, and
Sebastian Stan obviously the Winter Soldier.So all of this helped Deadpool and Wolverine.
Because every story which is carrying thenews of the Hollywood Star and the
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Walk of Fame mentions Ryan Reynolds,Hugh Jackman Deadpool in theaters starting today.
It's quote unquote tomorrow. But youcan get late showings today. They actually
even had some early showings today asearliest three o'clock today. Wow, I've
heard that. A. Yeah,I look, we have some mutual friends
who saw those earlier shows today,and I'm trying to stay away from any
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spoilers. It's at all possible.I do know we'll get into this in
a much more robust way next segment. I do know the movie is expected
to do at least one hundred andsixty five million, which is bonkers for
a rated R movie from my understandingand all reports indicay not and I've avoided
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any reviews, but the reports fromeveryone who has had early access to seeing
it said that this is likely goingto do Joker numbers as far as being
a billion dollar rated are superhero film. Okay, I think I'll enjoy it
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more than Joker, no disrespect tomy use, but can't wait for that.
But I think about what Kevin Faigehas been able to do and what
I appreciate about him. And youmay not be familiar with him. He
was someone who worked his way upthe ranks through Marvel. I think even
might have started as an intern andthen eventually got an opportunity to provide input
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on some of the early Marvel movies. The beauty of the Marvel Cinematic Universe,
and this was thought to be impossiblethat you could connect all these different
movies and they would tell a singularstoryline with different threads, but it's still
they had a central storyline which wouldend each phase with an epic movie.
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And with the exception of Phase five, in Phase six, they've gotten it
pretty much right and now I thinkthey're back on track. And because of
Bob Iger coming back YEP, KevinFeige has removed a lot of the movies
and TV shows from the production slate. It's really really slimmed down, so
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much so that Deadpool and Wolverine isthe only MCU release in twenty twenty four,
which you want. Since the establishmentof the Marvel Cinematic Universe after the
release of The Avengers, they havehad multiple movies every year when Figie had
complete control over what was happening.When Bob Jpek came in to take over
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for Bob Iiger, he wanted toFrom all reports and accounts, we don't
work for Disney and Rifle, buteveryone said that he wanted to start getting
into things that were going to bemore commercial viable as far as products,
as far as selling things, Halloweencostumes, all that kind of stuff,
and getting away from the Marvel missionwith Eiger coming back and saying, hey,
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hey, FIGI, what's happening here? I was ready to walk because
the power was being taken away fromme and we were moving away from our
mission. Now we're getting back tothat, and even some of the titles
that we wanted to see Blade thingslike that with Maherscha Ali. We wanted
to see that this year, butFigy's like, it's not right, and
I'm not going to release a subparproduct. Yeah, there will be nothing
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subpar. That is why. Sofar, even next year, we only
have Captain America four with hair andno Brave New Work. Brave new Ward
yeah was originally New World Order nowwas a Brave New World with Anthony Mackie
and Harrison Ford in the leads forthat. But we also have I think
just one more film with Thunderbolts.I think that's it for next year thus
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far. Thunderbolts for those who don'tknow, it's like the anti Avengers.
Yeah, they're dark Avengers. Theyare heroes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Some of them are villain and someof them are anti heroes. Yeah,
it's like the Dirty doesn't Yeah yeah, yeah. For those who've seen
the movie, you know, LeeMarvin would be proud. Jim Brown,
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Yeah, I'd like to see LeeMarvin as a superhero. That's like the
one AI thing I'd enjoy. LeeMarvin as Thunderbolt Ross would have worked.
You stuck right out Lee Marvin asNick Fury. And that's the end of
that discussion. Okay, the otherNick Fury yees yeah, yeah, oh
no, absolutly I can see that. Unfortunately, he was a man out
of his time. If he wouldhave come along now, he would have
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fit in perfectly. Now. Iactually mentioned to Tuala, I went on
a rabbit hole looking at Thunderbolts trailersand it turned out they were all fake,
but they looked really good anyway.Yeah, unfortunately were fake. But
this, I mean, what partis that, like July of next year
Thunderbolts Right now, Thunderbolts, itis looking like it is. I'm looking
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it up one of those April Apriltwenty twenty five. Oh my god,
I completely forgot. I am trippingFantastic four. That's coming in twenty twenty
five, coming in twenty twenty five? Is that really coming in twenty twenty
five, twenty twenty five. That'swhy right now at Comic Con, the
biggest promotion going on, like allthe posters, everything having to do with
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Marvel is those three films. Butthey have they started when they first start
putting up all the billboards and posters, they started with Fantastic four. Okay,
then that makes it real. Whenthe cast walks out on stage at
Comic Con, then I'll feel moreconfident that it's actually going to happen.
Yeah, those are the only threenext year, Fantastic four, Thunderbolts and
Captain America four. Do you knowif they still have Julia Garner planned as
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the Silver Surfer? That offends me. I don't know. I Julia Garner
not as Norrin Rad. It's adifferent surfer. It is a different surfer
from a different word. Look,I don't want to get into the whole
storyline of what's happening because we're gonnalose literally everyone when we go that deep.
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But it is set in a universewhere the Fantastic Four with Pedro Pascal
and the rest are set in auniverse where they are the only heroes in
that world, and they come intocontact with that Julia Garner silver Surfer who
warns them of Galactus, one ofthe big dads who we will see.
And I'm quite sure the cloud,I should say that, which gives them
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their powers will probably zap them intoEarth six one. No, no,
no no. The revelation comes fromfrom my understanding this. This is on
Reddit, which has leaked a lotof Marvel stuff, unfortunately. But what
happens is that that Silver Surfer,similar to what you know happens with the
six one six Silver Surfer, whotries to save the Earth after coming into
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contact with the fantastic for this SilverSurface, determined that there is no saving
the Earth and read Riches and themhave to try to fight or hold off
Galactus while trying to get the inhabitantsof their world to the six to one
six world. Because Deadpool Wolverine dealswith what multiversal incursions, and we'll get
into that next. We'll talk aboutDeadpool and Wolverine, the biggest movie in
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the country this weekend. You're listeningto Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty when I getout of here tonight in just about a
half an hour. We're going togo straight to the movie theater to check
out Deadpool and Wolverine. It's expectedto do more than three hundred million worldwide,
more than one hundred and sixty fivemillion here in the United States,
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starring Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman.If you are a fan of either,
you have to see this movie.If you're a fan of politically incorrect comedy,
you have to see this movie.If you're a fan of all sorts
of profanity and inappropriate jokes, youhave to see this movie. The MRK
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with a Mouth. I was lessfamiliar with Deadpool until I met to Wallace
Sharp and he brought me up tospeed and just reading some of the comics
which were available at the time.I was thinking, there's no way you
can bring this to the screen.And Ryan Reynolds, if you don't know
the backstory, He used his ownmoney to put together a short to pitch
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to studios. Just about everyone turnedhim down of how he wanted to do
Deadpool. It was about maybe threeminutes long. It wasn't that long,
but it was one studio, Fox, which decided to give him a shot
in a very meager budget and itturned into a worldwide phenomenon. They wouldn't
even And it is self aware becauseit jokes about how meager the budget is.
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It couldn't afford all but two minorX Men characters in the first movie.
But it has always been funny ascan be, and a running joke
in that is Deadpool. We don'tknow because we never heard from Wolverine,
but Deadpool has this rivalry with Wolverineand Hugh Jackman and it's been going on
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for the past two movies, andthis was the payoff where Hugh Jackman and
Wolverine are actually in this movie.And we know from the trailers that Deadpool
is going to go around and cleanup the timeline the problems and issues that
fans like you and me have withwhat's been happening in the Marvel cinematic universe
in recent years. To get whatdid you call himself? He was like
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MCU jesus, Yes, he termedhimself. So he's supposed to set everything
in order in a cinematic sense,so fans could stop complaining. This film,
on the surface is pure genius,just because when you first saw Ryan
Reynolds as Deadpool. It was inthe Hugh jack In film Wolverine Origins,
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and in that film we got aless than stellar appearance and performance of dead
Pool. Well, we didn't seehim as Deadpool. We saw hi,
miss Wade Wilson. We saw MissWade Wilson. And they mentioned they called
him Deadpool in the in the endright, and that was Scott Atkinson playing
Deadpool air quotes, yes, andthat was that was bad. It was
very bad. And they even jokedabout that horrific, almost cursed, horrific
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film. In Deadpool two, HughJackman had all but given up doing Wolverine
after the last Fox x Men filmappearance. He was like, I'm good,
I fulfilled my contract. I'm notcoming back. Ryan Reynolds kept poking
at him, egging him on onsocial media. Every film he would have
Hugh Jackman jokes in the film actuallylike like not just as Wolverine, but
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just Hugh Jackman jokes period in hisfilms. And they formed a friendship that
they say, know what, We'vegot to do this film and the payoff
from this year's long back and forthon social media and this friendship they've built
is we're gonna get one of I'mpredicting the greatest superhero films ever. Made
it to the point where there areseveral theaters that were sold out because I
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was telling people early on when Ibought tickets, every other sea of theater
I saw after that was sold outin Porto Ranch and several other AMC's.
They have actually opened up more theaters, meaning some films that were showing.
Some of those films that we laughat, like you did a million,
You're not gonna last, They're gonebecause they have opened up those theaters for
Deadpool Wolverine. For all the folksyou're saying, I'm so tired of superhero
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movies, they're not doing well becausepeople are tired of them. No,
they're tired of bad movies. Yeah, and Deadpool has a history of giving
the fans what they want. Theyare as reflexive and responsive to fan input
more so than any other franchise.Absolutely, so you're gonna see a lot
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of records fall this weekend for superheromovies. The box office will be back
on track in an annual sense.Movie theaters will be very pleased with this
weekend because of Inside Out too aswell. Those movies are still doing well,
but Deadpool Wolverine is going to takeover media. We've told you about
it, you'll see it. You'llknow that we're right by the end of
the weekend when we come back onto be joined by Lorie Ann Gibson.
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She's a star, one of thestars of the new Hulu show Dress My
Tour, where fashion and music cometogether in a reality show sense. That's
next you're listening to Later with MoeKelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.
These music superstars are on the huntfor their next iconic looks, and
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eleven designers will be tasked with creatingtheir next show stopping moments. Supriand were
you guys ready for the chance towin one hundred thousands? I am looking
forward to this opportunity to meet mycomeback. I'm your host, Kate Upton.
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Each challenge, one of you willbe eliminated. The decision will come
from your fellow designers. Why areyou laughing? K FIM six forty.
It's Later with Mo Kelly. We'relive everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Let
me tell you about Hulu's new series, Dress My Tour, hosted by supermodel
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Kate Upton, which follows eleven aspiringfashion designers on the raw, emotional journey
of creating stunning fashion pieces worthy ofthe music industry's biggest names. The designers
compete to make their mark in thefashion and music industries in hopes of winning
the one hundred thousand dollars prize.Director choreographer, artist singer Lori Anne Gibson
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sir as both judge and mentor forthe contest on Dress My Tour, which
is now available on Hulu. MSGibson A pleasure to speak with you this
evening. How are you. I'mwonderful, so excited to speak with you.
You've choreographed for literally the biggest namesin the world. I'm talking Michael
Jackson, Alicia Keys, Lady Gaga, and Beyonce. And that's just for
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starters. They don't seem like theycould be more different individually, but they're
similar in terms of their their starpower, their magnitude. What is it
about this marriage of music and fashionwhen it comes to a world tour,
Well, it's about you know,creating that story in their garment, in
the costume design, you know.First of all, shout out to Frank
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Ganson for Beyonce and obviously Michael Jacksonas a plethora of choreographers, but for
me in particular, Lady Gaga andNicki Minaj, Katy Perry and my brands.
It's the why. You know,the music dictates a certain experience,
and touring is that experience and costumedesign is a part of that razzle dazzle.
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You know, why what do youwear? How do you wear it?
How does this sustainability? What's thefabrication, what's the durability? What's
the uniqueness that each individual artist canhave to express them Not everybody can wear
the same thing. You make agreat point, and it just leads to
my next question. It's one thingto envision a great move or a great
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outfit. It's another to be ableto create it and sell it to a
superstar. How do you go aboutgaining the trust and confidence of someone the
magnitude of Michael Jackson, a Beyonceor Lady Gaga, any one of those.
Well, it's about their music,and so when you understand that,
and each record that they make oreach moment that they have is unique,
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it's different. We're always evolving,So what you did yesterday isn't what you
can do today and then tomorrow willrequire something else. So it's about the
evolution. So with costuming, youhave to really start with the music.
If we're dealing with music artists,you know, costuming film and television,
that's different. Live on stage DressMy Tour, you know, seven shows
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a night, sometimes two shows anight for thirty two weeks straight. There's
so much that goes into the comfortability, how they move, how to build
it, how to fabricate it.What is the fabric? So this show
is so dramatic, so exciting,and so needed right now. And even
if you're not a costume designer andyou just want to put on a show
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and get inspired. The razzle,dazzle, grab a drink, sit down
stream it. It's exciting and it'sinspiring. And these costume designers of this
generation so talented, groundbreaking, they'revisionaries, so they're fearless. So it's
a really great ride. If you'rejust tuning in. We're talking about Dress
My Tour, which is now availableon Hulu, is offering not only one
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hundred thousand dollars grand prize, buta platform in which people around the world
are going to see the work ofthese designers. Laia and Gibson take me
more into the show. Tell meabout some of these designers where we meet
them in their professional growth. Well, they're young, but they're great.
They're on fire, you know,and some of them aren't. Some of
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them think you can google a designor it's on your Pinterest. No,
we're talking about a gift. We'retalking about gotier. We're talking about you
know, real visionaries. So youhave to have something special and it's one
hundred thousand dollars at stake and youget a different artist every week, Tony
Braxton, you know, French Montana, JT Coyla Ray. It goes on,
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and I think the interesting thing isthey have the talent and it's a
different time where costume designing is needed. It's necessary. There's so many artists
and no opportunity to be unique withwhat you're wearing. So these young designers
have an opportunity to sit in frontof the biggest talent and express their gifts.
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I worked in the music industry forabout fifteen years at some of the
top labels, and I don't saythat as a boast. I say that
to co sign what you're saying asfar as the demands which are placed on
people. With that in mind,I know that you're going to put you
and your other judges is going toput these designers through the ringer. The
motions are going to be raw conveyfor other people who may not know the
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stress of working in this industry.It is time consuming and sometimes you don't
have time. Sometimes you're putting thissituation where what you thought the artist wanted
is completely different the next day,twenty four hours later, and you've got
to pivot. So they are feelingthe pressure of the real working world as
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costume designers. As a creative director, I'm dealing with them in the way
that I deal in the real world. If your fabric isn't holding up,
there's consequences. Why do you pickthat fab We told you what the assignment
was. So they're faced with everyreal world conversation and that is what defines
the winner. And you get tosee that journey because the winner survives each
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week a challenge that could break you. I know that this could be a
very painful process for anyone who isnot the winner, but is it fair
to say just the exposure and theprocess in which they go through will help
them grow professionally just being seen onthe world stage. Yeah, I think
and absolutely myself, Marina Kate,as judges, as mentors, you know,
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the executive producer, creator, HollyCarter. There's still a sensitivity,
there's a responsibility that we've come togetherand we have there is a awareness when
we are dealing with these young talentsto always empower them right where they are.
Do you think that these young talentshave it a little bit easier than
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you when you were coming up becausethere is a platform like Dress My Tool
or there is social media where theycan get their their designs out easier.
Do you think it's easier for themcoming up as opposed to you? I
think it is easy. It seemseasier because of course, but the downside
is you have access, so youbetter be good because if we see you
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too early and you're not good andyou're not ready, then that's the impression
and we've made our and defined ouropinion and you have to work extra hard
to get that attention back. Soyou better be ready because you may you
may not get a second chance.We've talked about Dress My Tour now available
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on Hulu. Go check it out. Loria and Gibson as judge and mentor.
We'll be sure to tune in andfollow the journey. Miss Gibson,
thank you so much for coming onthis evening. Thank you for having me.
It's later with Mo Kelly KFI AMsix forty. We're live everywhere on
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