September 27, 2024 • 30 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the rollout of ‘Digital Driver’s Licenses’ in California and the advantages vs. the disadvantages of getting one on ‘Tech Thursday’ with regular guest contributor; (author, podcast host, and technology pundit) Marsha Collier…PLUS – A look at the new California law that makes it easier to cancel online subscriptions - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Later with mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. On this Tech Thursday, Marcia Collier joins me
in studio. Good evening, Marsha, Good evening. Though you heard
our conversation. I was talking about the old school California
driver's license that were basically photo paper, and I could
use an exact knife and.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Change great, and you could, you know, get older.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
And just immediately. It was great for when I was fifteen.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
They've improved the technology so you can no longer do that.
They have obviously the like the credit card license with
the magnetic strip that has all your information on it.
And now the next iteration of that is it's going
to be downloadable if you will and put into your
wallet on your phone. Now it's not accepted by law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It's not accepted to spensaries, it's not accepted at nightclubs.
It's still not accepted in a lot of places because
AI think about it, you can easily do the same
thing we used to do with an exact knife, and.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Right no, I'm quite sure some fifteen year old somewhere
right now is gaming the system.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Of course, that's what we do right now.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But much has been made of these digital versions of
the driver's license. They have it in different states. It
can be used as some airports. The California one doesn't
have real utility as of yet, but their concerns about it.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, and it was you know, I was really glad
to hear that, Governor Knewsom. He just said, it's the
option to hold secure, convenient, and private digital driver's license
and identification cards. I'm so glad that the state of
California is looking out for us. This is all part.
Here comes the dark side of the statewide digital identity framework,
(02:03):
and that is the DMV saying they have their own
mobile wallet, or you can use your Apple wallet or
your Android wallet to store your driver's license. Now, a
lot of retail locations aren't taking it, and it does
(02:25):
require that you still carry a physical driver's license when
you're driving, so I don't know about that. The government
claims that it gives us more control over how we
share our information, does it, Well, yeah, it gives the
government more control because that digital identity framework of the
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State of California sounds a whole lot like some of
the things I heard when I was in China.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Let me just play the other side of that argument.
I could say, well, the DMV already has this information.
It is digitized to a certain degree because that our
driver license driver's license right now has that magnetic strip
and any bar how's that freaky barcode.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
On the right, So they have the information.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
What difference does it make if it just happens to
be in a digital form or some other.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Digital in your phone and you have to give it
permission to be there, and by you installing the app,
you are given permission to your data to go elsewhere,
whether you know it or not.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
All right, let's walk down this road.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Give us a possible consequence of this more specific for people.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Okay, Well, that wallet that you can put a little
link to on lock screen of your phone. I've been
trying to do that and make it work for quite
a while on Android, and it still wants my fingerprint.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That is a secondary measure. I do full disclosure, I
do have it on my phone, but it's in the wallet,
not the general like Google, pay Apple.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Pay wallt And okay, we're gonna go back to some
we talked about a long time ago, and you still
have to open for your phone for that right.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
If you look at my phone right now, it says
I have to unlock, right, and then it will ask
for my fingerprint, and then I'm in.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Now looking at that no offense. I think there's a
whole lot more stuff going on on your driver's license
and to go to an airport, you don't need that.
If you have TSA pre check, you can use that
nice little card, yep. And then there's if you have
a passport, which many people do. For five dollars more,
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you can get a passport card.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
But let me ask you this, because I am the
king of losing stuff. What about when, not if, but
when I'm traveling and I misplaced by passport and I
don't want to be stuck in Korea like I was
in June. Not stuck, but I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Okay, then you have that passport card in your wallet.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
No, I'm just saying, if you back.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
That passport card is a backup and general identification that's
recognized all over the world. The California Supreme Court unanimously
held that police need a warrant to search through cell
phones even during arrests even you know when it's legit.
But if you hand over your unlocked phone to a
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police officer and offer to show them something, Hey, look
at a picture of my baby. Now the minute he
gets that phone, you have granted a search period and
there's no limits to what it can be. The ACLU says, quote,
there have been cases where people give consent to do
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one thing and the cops take the whole phone. No,
they would never do that, copy the whole phone.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
No, they would never do that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Find other evidence in the phone. And the legal question
is what comes up in court? Is that a violation
of the scope of consent? I mean, because think about it.
If they find something in your if you were standing
next to a major FBI thing bad happening. Just picture
all the stuff you see on TV and you were there.
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You didn't know what was going on, but you were
standing in the vicinity, and that location's living on your phone.
There's going to be a lot of questioning to do.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Let me ask you, this is consent. Would you say
you're granting consent when you hand over the phone. If
I were to show an officer my digital license, which
I wouldn't, I would use my physical one. But if
I were to do that, is that considered handing over
the phone. To the best of your knowledge.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
They will ask for the phone. They will ask the phone. Hey,
and officers behind you one hundred percent on everything you do.
But this is a privacy issue. And the thing is,
if you police do have a warrant to search your phone, okay, great,
they can. They say that they can require you to
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provide biometric which is your fingerprint or your face. Right,
But that's still an unsettled question in the courts and
is probably going to have to go higher. The Fifth
Amendment typically protects giving up passcodes as a form of
self incrimination. Just like if you were going to testify
in a court, you take the fifth the minute you
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give the password. The passcode, in other words, the verbal thing,
because in the word of one Federal Appeals Court decision,
it requires no cognitive exertion, placing it firmly in the
same category as a blood draw or a fingerprint, taking
it at booking. So in other words, you don't have
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to think about it, just do it, do it, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So if my driver's license is not in a digital form,
there is nothing.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
From what we know and I'm not asking you as
a lawyer or an advisor, right, But does.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That mean that that a law enforcement can't ask for
my phone just to ask for my phone.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Now, unless they have a warrant. Unless they have a warrant,
you give them that paper thing along with your registration
and your insurance, and you should be good to go.
You know. And we all think there's nothing incriminating on
our phone. Again, there could be some coincidence that places
you at the scene of a crime that you weren't
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even aware of, and nothing's pleasant. And lawyers aren't cheap.
So you know, even though Apple and Google say you
can display an encrypted ID without fully unlocking your phone,
I got to tell you, I just wrote a book
about Android. I haven't been able to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
We'll do more on this when we come back. It's
Later with mo Kelly. I'm joined in studio by Marsha Callier.
Fascinating conversation about rights and probable cause and how it
can be used against you.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
With Mo Kelly, mok.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
AM six live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I'm still
in studio with marsh Marsha. I love technology and people
don't know this, but during the break your husband showed
me this really nifty, cool, necessary tech item. We had
a ten second conversation. I said, boo boo, boo boop,
(09:50):
purchase it for myself and now it's on the way
to me. What do you think of this, this ability
to just talk about it and order it and have it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, I think it's great because the best marketing for
any good product, right is word of mouth. Right, That's
it people telling people. And by the way, what Moe
is talking about, it's a card that you can find
on Amazon. You can find it all over the web,
that you put in your wallet, and it scrambles so
that somebody can't walk by and pull data. Yes they
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can pull data off your cards, Yes they can.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Then they don't have to like pickpocket you. In the
same tradition, you can.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Count your money. You know, those wires in the money.
They're not just there for good looks. I mean it's insane.
You have no idea. Again, going back to what we
were talking about, people are in good faith with all
of these things, and we want to do the technology.
(10:50):
But when it comes to the paper. Then we need
to have certain things we back up our digital files.
Consider the paper the backup or your main thing. Or
when you travel, put it on a copier, don't scan it,
don't put it in the cloud. Carry a piece of
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paper with your passport, your credit cards, all the things
you're carrying with you in case your pickpocket in another country.
Because if you walk into an American embassy in a
foreign country and show them that piece of paper, they're
going to be able to identify you. So the paper
is our backup, and our paper can't be shared or
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malware dropped on, or our information stolen oops by accident.
Yes it's all well meaning, but I frankly don't trust
the government to have the highest level of security on everything.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
What do you mean you don't trust the government? You
should always trust the government.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Wouldn't that be nice? Wouldn't that be nice? Wouldn't But
the people in China they trust the government?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Do they?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I'm afraid they have to.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I don't
know if that's trust or coercion, but.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
You know it is coercion. And I got to tell
you you'd never get away in a lot of countries
in our world right now, of what people get away
with here in Los Angeles. And I'm not talking about you,
the listener, you know what I'm talking about, the break ins,
the did you see that police pursuit last night? Of course?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But you know, the cost of freedom is also the
freedom for people to make conscious decisions to either follow
the law or not follow.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Them right right, and until they make it a law
saying you have to just keep your regular paper. Oh
and by the way, in that law the real ID,
you do not have to get a real ID. You
do not have to do that if you have a
passport card or if you have that TSA pre check
(13:02):
Global entry card.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, that's kind of invasive. When I got my TSA
pre check and even the renewal. They want to know everything.
They want to know about your ex girlfriends. They want
to know about everything.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
They know everything. That questionnaire was like eight ten pages long, easily, and.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
They already have the information. They just want to see
if you wanna lie.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Well, the thing was, I was at that time I
went for my interview, and I had been traveling a lot,
like every other week, different city, different.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And you had China on there too, right, No.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
This was before China. And the guy said, well, how
was Canada?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
They already knew, but I didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Remember that i'd been to Canada because I spoke at
a conference for one night and I left Canada. So Canada,
I love you, Canada, but you weren't top of mind.
Well that caused them to grill me an extra. They
kept going at me and going at me. Oh yeah,
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that's where I bought the blah blah, the duty free store.
That's how I remember where I go. Sad but yeah,
I mean, you have to answer questions, they have to
scan your retinas.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
But it's worth it, better worth it. It is really
worth it to travel with Global Entry. It is. It's
hard for me to say that I would ever go back.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
No, And for those of you who don't have it,
what Global Entry does for you real fast is when
you enter the United States. You know, when the crew
kind of trounces off and walks past that nice man
with their baggage and waves back.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
It kind of bypasses that super long line of people
waiting to put their laptops and the thing to take
it off their shoety.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
No, I'm talking about when you're leaving leaving the airport
after an international flight and you got the guys there
looking at the bags. The dogs are walking around sniffing,
but the crew just gets to go right through. Well,
if you have global entry, you just get to walk
right through behind the crew. And the man says, how
a nice day to do? Or do you do any shopping?
(15:02):
And you said, yeah, I got a few souvenirs. Okay,
have a wonderful day. See it because they know who
you are. Yeah, they scan your retina coming and going.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, And we may not like facial recognition or retinal scanning,
but they already know who you are.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
That's the point. And let's hope that that helps to
prevent false arrests and bad things going on in the future.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Marshall Caryer, I could talk to you all night and
thank you for the technological suggestion.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
And I can't wait till I get my card.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Tip of the date and then we'll bring something and
try and test it. How's that?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
See if you can steal my data? Yeah, in real time,
let's not just say we did.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Okay, mo, I will see you next week.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Have you ever had this experience where you may sign
up for something, a subscription, maybe it's like a trial,
and then if you don't cancel within seven days or whatever,
it automatically bills you. You may forget about it, and
then you get your bank statement a few months later
and you realize, hey, you've been charged by three or
(16:15):
four months in a row, and you can't remember exactly
where you signed up or how to cancel it. And
these services across the board, they're very, very smart about
making it difficult for you to cancel a subscription.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
That's the whole point. They want you to forget about it.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They want you to get frustrated and give up or
go on to some other task, and you forget and
all of a sudden, another billing cycle has passed.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Well, there's a new law to address that.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Back on Tuesday, Governor Knwsom signed AB twenty eight sixty three,
which requires businesses to offer a simple way, and that's
kind of subjective, a simple way for users to cancel
their online subscriptions for people just like me. For example,
if a user signs up for a service online, businesses
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must now offer an online click to cancel option click
to cancel.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
The law also requires businesses to send subscribers like me
because I forget, send an annual reminder about the subscriptions costs,
how to cancel, and potential price changes and.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
But I'm pretty sure, like an Amazon subscription that's just
automatically renewed, because I don't remember them sending me an
email saying, hey, you better renewed because we're getting ready
to cancel. You know, it's done automatically. That's like one
hundred and thirty eight dollars or something.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I think you get to notice after they have renewed it.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Oh yeah, they'll let you know, yes, you are renewed
for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
After they've helped themselves to your bank account. Then they like,
you know, welcome back. Right, Wait a minute, one hundred
and that's a good point.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Yeah, because even just real quick with because I still
have Max and yeah, it'll it'll tell me, oh, your
renewal is coming up. But yeah, something like Amazon, it'll
be after the fact, right.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
And I will get the email, the courtesy email for
Apple TV for all my subscription services saying you were
just bill for such and such and such for a
month of whatever, and I get that, but there are
certain services. Now you may not be a boxing fan,
but there is a boxing streaming service called Days and
da z N.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And it's the company of.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Alvarez Carmelo alvil Alvarez boxer, and it will bill you.
Put it this way, if you sign up to watch
a fight, it automatically signs you up for their service.
So you'll pay like the sixty nine ninety nine or
more for the fight, but then in the fine print,
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you're auto billed. I will say maybe twenty three dollars
a month because it offers other content. But the whole
point is you only wanted that one fight, but you're
signing up unbeknownst to you, unless you're really paying attention,
you're signing up for their streaming service in perpetuity, and
then they will bill you in perpetuity. If it did
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not take me four hours to find out how to
cancel that service, because depending on if you did it
through your TV, depending on if you did it online,
it is really really difficult. I had to cuss out
a lot of people, a lot I was cussing that
day had to cuss out a lot of people to
get rid of.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Dason, and I think that's how they pronounce it.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
You're talking about the fights that just happened with uh Canelo,
Alva Roberts.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
If you just signed up for that fight, you automatically
without if you don't read the fine print, you're automatically
signed up for that service.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Yes, one hundred percent. A lot of sites like that too,
They supprew you over. That doesn't even make legal sense.
We'll see they're skirting the law. And it's in the
fine print if you go back and look, I mean
it's really really tiny and in your signing because you
can't get the fight without signing up for the service.
It's not like you had the option I only want
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the fight. No, it's a packaged deal.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
You have to say, you have to check the box
for the I agree to the terms of condition, and
in that extremely fine print is oh, and we'll rebuild
you in thirty days.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I just want to see the one Canado Alvarez fight.
And then I was getting built in perpetuity because I
was looking at my statement. It's like, wait a minute,
and it's not called daison on your credit card statement,
So it's like I can't I can't remember what it was,
but it wasn't clear what it was and so you
couldn't easily trace it back to what you originally paid for.
(20:56):
So it doesn't say you've been had dot com Well no,
but did you figure it out very quickly? It's like
you've been robbed m.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
Yeah, does this work with gym membership subscriptions if you
sign up online? Like say, you know you get that
new gym membership subscription online? Because I know this is
primarily for online subscriptions, but does it help with all
of that?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
From what I can glean, it's only for that which
you sign up for online because the click to counsel,
click to cancel is depended upon you having signed up online,
or at least there's an online function.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Now I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And I try to keep strict tabs on my money
going out each month for that reason, because you always
have these hidden subscriptions that are just everywhere.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
A bunch of OnlyFans accounts that you subscribe to. Those
two let me tell you, trying to get out of
a membership with La Fitness is harder than I would
imagine getting out of the mafia would be.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Look, I used to have a Bally subscription back in
the day it was ballets, and those contracts were criminal.
They would sign you up for years. You didn't even
realize it. The way they would try to sell you
is like, oh, yeah, it's only be nineteen ninety nine
from a month, but they don't.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Tell you.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Have to pay for three years. Couldn't get out of it,
and then they would ruin your credit. Had to learn
the hard way. So you're not buying like a nineteen
ninety nine gym membership back then, you're basically making a
three thousand dollars purchase three years.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Foosh, weren't you selling those memberships? Aren't you a part
of that gym? Don't you be quiet over there?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Me?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, I think you were part of that gym. Weren't you?
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Weren't you selling those memberships? I think I'd have a
lot more money right now if I did?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
No, no, no, no, no, Just answer the question yes or no.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
No.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
You didn't work at Bally's. No, which gym were you at?
I actually used to go to Planet Fitness. Well they're cheap, yeah,
super cheap?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Are they still ten dollars?
Speaker 6 (22:57):
A month, and yeah, I think actually, no, I think
they also raise their prices. I think they're like eleven
or twelve bucks a month. Yeah, that's a lot. One
dollar for the first month, get you in the door.
I could handle ten eleven dollars a month. But they
auto built. When I was at La Fitness, they auto built.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah they did. Yeah, they all.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Yeah, well, this is a good thing that the governor
has done. I support this. No, I'm all for the
out of get me out of a bunch of both subscriptions.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I don't want people taking any of my money without
my knowledge and consent. And just because I got drunk
one night and I wanted the Canelo Alvarez fight, it
doesn't mean I need to pay for a streaming service
and perpetuity after that.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
And that's what they're banking on.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You know, if you're trying to get a fight for
fight night, yeah you'll get the fight. You've probably had
a few pops, you know, you might not be in
your right mind, and then three months later you realize, hey,
money keeps leaving your account.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
What's up with that. It's like having a wife or something.
Just money disappearing. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I say stuff like that to see if it comes
back to me at home, you see, if my wife
will tell us, did you make.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
A joke the other night talking about.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Well, I know you don't listen to my show, baby,
so someone must have told you about that and they're incorrect. No, no, no, no,
I would never say anything like that.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Never.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
It's Later with Mo Kelly k IF I Am six
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Speaker 1 (24:25):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Gotta tell you some very cool stuff tomorrow night. Tomorrow night,
we will start giving way passes to our exclusive pre Halloween.
Soare at the Honda Studios at iHeartMedia, you and a guest,
and all you need to do is make it through
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on name that movie called Classic.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
It's gonna be serious tomorrow night. It will be no
more delays.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Were just giving out passes, Yes, you and a guest
to the best party, probably that cafe I've ever seen.
I don't want to make any grand you know, predictions,
but probably.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Now are we going to open this up and make
it possible for individuals who have won before to call
in and win, because you know, we try our best
to make sure that we're allowing new people to win.
But we've got a lot of people who've been listening
for a long time. Well we've already been, you know,
(25:31):
chomping at the bed. We could do week by week.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
In other words, we could say the first week people
who haven't won anything.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Oh, we could do that.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I'm not saying we will, but we just got to
make sure that we get all our peoples.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
In the house.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute. So this isn't a
small little party here in the studio.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
We're talking about a studio artist upwards of maybe one
hundred hundred and fifty people.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Oh that big.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
So this is a This is a shin dig.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yes is a party, Yes, with food and beverage and
hopefully some topless dancers. Hopefully. I can't guarantee that. I
just still get that cleared with corporate mark and secure
the talent. Okay, I'm not dancing topless. I don't care
how many dollar bills or the talent.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Not be the talent Okay, not your I said.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Secure Okay, clarification things right, So you're gonna have to
go through your yod and hire some talent. Just don't
take him across state lines. That's all I ask. End
up like Diddy.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I wait, I earned that one, thank you very much.
But that starts tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
We will be giving away passes will put you on
the list to the most exclusive party. We'll have some
very special guests in the house. I don't know, maybe
some KFI talent may want to roll through as well.
But it's going to be the party for Halloween. Oh
and yes, it's going to be costume. Yes, absolutely, yes, absolutely,
I'm going to be in costume. Mark is going to
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be probably not dressed up. Twalla is going to be
in costume. Sefan don't know. We'll try to encourage him
and you coming to the party will be in costume. Oh,
it is going to be the thing October thirtieth here
at the Honda Studios what we call the fifth floor
Honda Studios. iHeartMedia also got to let you know it's
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Halloween time at the Disneyland Resort and KFI AM six
forty wants to give you a chance to experience the
frightful fun. A Happiest Halloween has brought fiendishly tasty treats
Thrills for One and All and Booty for Decor to
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Park going on now through Halloween, October thirty. First, keep
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listening to KFI and later with mo Kelly for your
chance to win a four pack of one day one
park tickets to the Disneyland Resort. Keep listening specifically to
Later with mon Kelly hen Hint for your chance to
win a four pack of one day one park tickets
to the Disneyland Resort. You know twa, I'm just such
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such a giving mood. I just want to give away
more stuff. Is there anything else we can give away?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Oh? What about?
Speaker 7 (28:21):
And I don't know if it's possible. I know Gary
and Shannon are supposed to be broadcasting from the Pacific
Air Show of Hunting Beach.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Oh that's coming up, that's coming up next week.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, that's October fourth through October sixth Yes, I mean
I've been to it.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
That is so cool.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Let me let me see if I can just text
my boss real quick and see if we can get
a four pack to give away like next segment, No pressure,
Robin Burch, Luci Robin can we give away a four
pack for the Pacific Air Show, which is coming up
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next week in Huntington Beach.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Hit me back because I'm getting ready to give it away.
Maybe next segment.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
When I talked to the executive director Kevin Elliott, and
I would like to be able to give away a
four pack.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Well, this message is too long. Let me just hit Sam.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
So if she hits me back in the next minute
and a half, hopefully we'll have permission to do that giveaway.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
He actually set that message. Yeah, I love hearing Nick.
It's all real.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
It's all real, And even though Robin's on vacation, she'll
stop and drop whatever she's doing to respond to me,
so it'll be okay.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Hey, Mark, you can really cut the suspense with a knife.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Huh Oh, wait for Hed to hit me back. Yeah, yes,
I am too. Yeah, I can't wait to hear what
she says.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Pacific Air Show is next week October fourth through October sixth,
and we're hopefully going to give away a four pack
four pack for the Pacific Air Show in Huntington Beach.
If you haven't been, it is fan fantastic, it's absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
You have civilian aircraft.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You have military aircraft activities going on the ground, fun
and games for everyone.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
And Huntington Beach is just beautiful.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Up.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
She just hit me back.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I'm I think your show is absolutely wonderful. You're doing
a great job tonight. Okay, I'm just saying da da
da YadA yadayah blah blah. Yes, we got a four
pack to give away. So when we come back, I'll
be joined on the show by Kevin Elliott, Pacific Air
Show executive Director, and we'll give away a four pack.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
But you know what that means.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
You have to listen. Moe, Kelly, Swalla, Sharp, Mark Ronner, Stephen,
whatever your name is.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I was waiting for that. We're live everywhere in the
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Speaker 4 (30:47):
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live everywhere on the radio.
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Later with mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. On this Tech Thursday, Marcia Collier joins me
in studio. Good evening, Marsha, Good evening. Though you heard
our conversation. I was talking about the old school California
driver's license that were basically photo paper, and I could
use an exact knife and.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Change great, and you could, you know, get older.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
And just immediately. It was great for when I was fifteen.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
They've improved the technology so you can no longer do that.
They have obviously the like the credit card license with
the magnetic strip that has all your information on it.
And now the next iteration of that is it's going
to be downloadable if you will and put into your
wallet on your phone. Now it's not accepted by law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It's not accepted to spensaries, it's not accepted at nightclubs.
It's still not accepted in a lot of places because
AI think about it, you can easily do the same
thing we used to do with an exact knife, and.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Right no, I'm quite sure some fifteen year old somewhere
right now is gaming the system.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Of course, that's what we do right now.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But much has been made of these digital versions of
the driver's license. They have it in different states. It
can be used as some airports. The California one doesn't
have real utility as of yet, but their concerns about it.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, and it was you know, I was really glad
to hear that, Governor Knewsom. He just said, it's the
option to hold secure, convenient, and private digital driver's license
and identification cards. I'm so glad that the state of
California is looking out for us. This is all part.
Here comes the dark side of the statewide digital identity framework,
(02:03):
and that is the DMV saying they have their own
mobile wallet, or you can use your Apple wallet or
your Android wallet to store your driver's license. Now, a
lot of retail locations aren't taking it, and it does
(02:25):
require that you still carry a physical driver's license when
you're driving, so I don't know about that. The government
claims that it gives us more control over how we
share our information, does it, Well, yeah, it gives the
government more control because that digital identity framework of the
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State of California sounds a whole lot like some of
the things I heard when I was in China.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Let me just play the other side of that argument.
I could say, well, the DMV already has this information.
It is digitized to a certain degree because that our
driver license driver's license right now has that magnetic strip
and any bar how's that freaky barcode.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
On the right, So they have the information.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
What difference does it make if it just happens to
be in a digital form or some other.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Digital in your phone and you have to give it
permission to be there, and by you installing the app,
you are given permission to your data to go elsewhere,
whether you know it or not.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
All right, let's walk down this road.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Give us a possible consequence of this more specific for people.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Okay, Well, that wallet that you can put a little
link to on lock screen of your phone. I've been
trying to do that and make it work for quite
a while on Android, and it still wants my fingerprint.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That is a secondary measure. I do full disclosure, I
do have it on my phone, but it's in the wallet,
not the general like Google, pay Apple.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Pay wallt And okay, we're gonna go back to some
we talked about a long time ago, and you still
have to open for your phone for that right.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
If you look at my phone right now, it says
I have to unlock, right, and then it will ask
for my fingerprint, and then I'm in.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Now looking at that no offense. I think there's a
whole lot more stuff going on on your driver's license
and to go to an airport, you don't need that.
If you have TSA pre check, you can use that
nice little card, yep. And then there's if you have
a passport, which many people do. For five dollars more,
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you can get a passport card.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
But let me ask you this, because I am the
king of losing stuff. What about when, not if, but
when I'm traveling and I misplaced by passport and I
don't want to be stuck in Korea like I was
in June. Not stuck, but I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Okay, then you have that passport card in your wallet.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
No, I'm just saying, if you back.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
That passport card is a backup and general identification that's
recognized all over the world. The California Supreme Court unanimously
held that police need a warrant to search through cell
phones even during arrests even you know when it's legit.
But if you hand over your unlocked phone to a
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police officer and offer to show them something, Hey, look
at a picture of my baby. Now the minute he
gets that phone, you have granted a search period and
there's no limits to what it can be. The ACLU says, quote,
there have been cases where people give consent to do
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one thing and the cops take the whole phone. No,
they would never do that, copy the whole phone.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
No, they would never do that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Find other evidence in the phone. And the legal question
is what comes up in court? Is that a violation
of the scope of consent? I mean, because think about it.
If they find something in your if you were standing
next to a major FBI thing bad happening. Just picture
all the stuff you see on TV and you were there.
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You didn't know what was going on, but you were
standing in the vicinity, and that location's living on your phone.
There's going to be a lot of questioning to do.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Let me ask you, this is consent. Would you say
you're granting consent when you hand over the phone. If
I were to show an officer my digital license, which
I wouldn't, I would use my physical one. But if
I were to do that, is that considered handing over
the phone. To the best of your knowledge.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
They will ask for the phone. They will ask the phone. Hey,
and officers behind you one hundred percent on everything you do.
But this is a privacy issue. And the thing is,
if you police do have a warrant to search your phone, okay, great,
they can. They say that they can require you to
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provide biometric which is your fingerprint or your face. Right,
But that's still an unsettled question in the courts and
is probably going to have to go higher. The Fifth
Amendment typically protects giving up passcodes as a form of
self incrimination. Just like if you were going to testify
in a court, you take the fifth the minute you
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give the password. The passcode, in other words, the verbal thing,
because in the word of one Federal Appeals Court decision,
it requires no cognitive exertion, placing it firmly in the
same category as a blood draw or a fingerprint, taking
it at booking. So in other words, you don't have
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to think about it, just do it, do it, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So if my driver's license is not in a digital form,
there is nothing.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
From what we know and I'm not asking you as
a lawyer or an advisor, right, But does.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That mean that that a law enforcement can't ask for
my phone just to ask for my phone.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Now, unless they have a warrant. Unless they have a warrant,
you give them that paper thing along with your registration
and your insurance, and you should be good to go.
You know. And we all think there's nothing incriminating on
our phone. Again, there could be some coincidence that places
you at the scene of a crime that you weren't
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even aware of, and nothing's pleasant. And lawyers aren't cheap.
So you know, even though Apple and Google say you
can display an encrypted ID without fully unlocking your phone,
I got to tell you, I just wrote a book
about Android. I haven't been able to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
We'll do more on this when we come back. It's
Later with mo Kelly. I'm joined in studio by Marsha Callier.
Fascinating conversation about rights and probable cause and how it
can be used against you.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
With Mo Kelly, mok.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
AM six live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I'm still
in studio with marsh Marsha. I love technology and people
don't know this, but during the break your husband showed
me this really nifty, cool, necessary tech item. We had
a ten second conversation. I said, boo boo, boo boop,
(09:50):
purchase it for myself and now it's on the way
to me. What do you think of this, this ability
to just talk about it and order it and have it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, I think it's great because the best marketing for
any good product, right is word of mouth. Right, That's
it people telling people. And by the way, what Moe
is talking about, it's a card that you can find
on Amazon. You can find it all over the web,
that you put in your wallet, and it scrambles so
that somebody can't walk by and pull data. Yes they
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can pull data off your cards, Yes they can.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Then they don't have to like pickpocket you. In the
same tradition, you can.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Count your money. You know, those wires in the money.
They're not just there for good looks. I mean it's insane.
You have no idea. Again, going back to what we
were talking about, people are in good faith with all
of these things, and we want to do the technology.
(10:50):
But when it comes to the paper. Then we need
to have certain things we back up our digital files.
Consider the paper the backup or your main thing. Or
when you travel, put it on a copier, don't scan it,
don't put it in the cloud. Carry a piece of
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paper with your passport, your credit cards, all the things
you're carrying with you in case your pickpocket in another country.
Because if you walk into an American embassy in a
foreign country and show them that piece of paper, they're
going to be able to identify you. So the paper
is our backup, and our paper can't be shared or
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malware dropped on, or our information stolen oops by accident.
Yes it's all well meaning, but I frankly don't trust
the government to have the highest level of security on everything.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
What do you mean you don't trust the government? You
should always trust the government.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Wouldn't that be nice? Wouldn't that be nice? Wouldn't But
the people in China they trust the government?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Do they?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I'm afraid they have to.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I don't
know if that's trust or coercion, but.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
You know it is coercion. And I got to tell
you you'd never get away in a lot of countries
in our world right now, of what people get away
with here in Los Angeles. And I'm not talking about you,
the listener, you know what I'm talking about, the break ins,
the did you see that police pursuit last night? Of course?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But you know, the cost of freedom is also the
freedom for people to make conscious decisions to either follow
the law or not follow.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Them right right, and until they make it a law
saying you have to just keep your regular paper. Oh
and by the way, in that law the real ID,
you do not have to get a real ID. You
do not have to do that if you have a
passport card or if you have that TSA pre check
(13:02):
Global entry card.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, that's kind of invasive. When I got my TSA
pre check and even the renewal. They want to know everything.
They want to know about your ex girlfriends. They want
to know about everything.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
They know everything. That questionnaire was like eight ten pages long, easily, and.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
They already have the information. They just want to see
if you wanna lie.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Well, the thing was, I was at that time I
went for my interview, and I had been traveling a lot,
like every other week, different city, different.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And you had China on there too, right, No.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
This was before China. And the guy said, well, how
was Canada?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
They already knew, but I didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Remember that i'd been to Canada because I spoke at
a conference for one night and I left Canada. So Canada,
I love you, Canada, but you weren't top of mind.
Well that caused them to grill me an extra. They
kept going at me and going at me. Oh yeah,
(13:57):
that's where I bought the blah blah, the duty free store.
That's how I remember where I go. Sad but yeah,
I mean, you have to answer questions, they have to
scan your retinas.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
But it's worth it, better worth it. It is really
worth it to travel with Global Entry. It is. It's
hard for me to say that I would ever go back.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
No, And for those of you who don't have it,
what Global Entry does for you real fast is when
you enter the United States. You know, when the crew
kind of trounces off and walks past that nice man
with their baggage and waves back.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
It kind of bypasses that super long line of people
waiting to put their laptops and the thing to take
it off their shoety.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
No, I'm talking about when you're leaving leaving the airport
after an international flight and you got the guys there
looking at the bags. The dogs are walking around sniffing,
but the crew just gets to go right through. Well,
if you have global entry, you just get to walk
right through behind the crew. And the man says, how
a nice day to do? Or do you do any shopping?
(15:02):
And you said, yeah, I got a few souvenirs. Okay,
have a wonderful day. See it because they know who
you are. Yeah, they scan your retina coming and going.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, And we may not like facial recognition or retinal scanning,
but they already know who you are.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
That's the point. And let's hope that that helps to
prevent false arrests and bad things going on in the future.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Marshall Caryer, I could talk to you all night and
thank you for the technological suggestion.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
And I can't wait till I get my card.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Tip of the date and then we'll bring something and
try and test it. How's that?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
See if you can steal my data? Yeah, in real time,
let's not just say we did.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Okay, mo, I will see you next week.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Have you ever had this experience where you may sign
up for something, a subscription, maybe it's like a trial,
and then if you don't cancel within seven days or whatever,
it automatically bills you. You may forget about it, and
then you get your bank statement a few months later
and you realize, hey, you've been charged by three or
(16:15):
four months in a row, and you can't remember exactly
where you signed up or how to cancel it. And
these services across the board, they're very, very smart about
making it difficult for you to cancel a subscription.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
That's the whole point. They want you to forget about it.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They want you to get frustrated and give up or
go on to some other task, and you forget and
all of a sudden, another billing cycle has passed.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Well, there's a new law to address that.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Back on Tuesday, Governor Knwsom signed AB twenty eight sixty three,
which requires businesses to offer a simple way, and that's
kind of subjective, a simple way for users to cancel
their online subscriptions for people just like me. For example,
if a user signs up for a service online, businesses
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must now offer an online click to cancel option click
to cancel.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
The law also requires businesses to send subscribers like me
because I forget, send an annual reminder about the subscriptions costs,
how to cancel, and potential price changes and.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
But I'm pretty sure, like an Amazon subscription that's just
automatically renewed, because I don't remember them sending me an
email saying, hey, you better renewed because we're getting ready
to cancel. You know, it's done automatically. That's like one
hundred and thirty eight dollars or something.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I think you get to notice after they have renewed it.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Oh yeah, they'll let you know, yes, you are renewed
for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
After they've helped themselves to your bank account. Then they like,
you know, welcome back. Right, Wait a minute, one hundred
and that's a good point.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Yeah, because even just real quick with because I still
have Max and yeah, it'll it'll tell me, oh, your
renewal is coming up. But yeah, something like Amazon, it'll
be after the fact, right.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
And I will get the email, the courtesy email for
Apple TV for all my subscription services saying you were
just bill for such and such and such for a
month of whatever, and I get that, but there are
certain services. Now you may not be a boxing fan,
but there is a boxing streaming service called Days and
da z N.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And it's the company of.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Alvarez Carmelo alvil Alvarez boxer, and it will bill you.
Put it this way, if you sign up to watch
a fight, it automatically signs you up for their service.
So you'll pay like the sixty nine ninety nine or
more for the fight, but then in the fine print,
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you're auto billed. I will say maybe twenty three dollars
a month because it offers other content. But the whole
point is you only wanted that one fight, but you're
signing up unbeknownst to you, unless you're really paying attention,
you're signing up for their streaming service in perpetuity, and
then they will bill you in perpetuity. If it did
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not take me four hours to find out how to
cancel that service, because depending on if you did it
through your TV, depending on if you did it online,
it is really really difficult. I had to cuss out
a lot of people, a lot I was cussing that
day had to cuss out a lot of people to
get rid of.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Dason, and I think that's how they pronounce it.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
You're talking about the fights that just happened with uh Canelo,
Alva Roberts.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
If you just signed up for that fight, you automatically
without if you don't read the fine print, you're automatically
signed up for that service.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Yes, one hundred percent. A lot of sites like that too,
They supprew you over. That doesn't even make legal sense.
We'll see they're skirting the law. And it's in the
fine print if you go back and look, I mean
it's really really tiny and in your signing because you
can't get the fight without signing up for the service.
It's not like you had the option I only want
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the fight. No, it's a packaged deal.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
You have to say, you have to check the box
for the I agree to the terms of condition, and
in that extremely fine print is oh, and we'll rebuild
you in thirty days.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I just want to see the one Canado Alvarez fight.
And then I was getting built in perpetuity because I
was looking at my statement. It's like, wait a minute,
and it's not called daison on your credit card statement,
So it's like I can't I can't remember what it was,
but it wasn't clear what it was and so you
couldn't easily trace it back to what you originally paid for.
(20:56):
So it doesn't say you've been had dot com Well no,
but did you figure it out very quickly? It's like
you've been robbed m.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
Yeah, does this work with gym membership subscriptions if you
sign up online? Like say, you know you get that
new gym membership subscription online? Because I know this is
primarily for online subscriptions, but does it help with all
of that?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
From what I can glean, it's only for that which
you sign up for online because the click to counsel,
click to cancel is depended upon you having signed up online,
or at least there's an online function.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Now I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And I try to keep strict tabs on my money
going out each month for that reason, because you always
have these hidden subscriptions that are just everywhere.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
A bunch of OnlyFans accounts that you subscribe to. Those
two let me tell you, trying to get out of
a membership with La Fitness is harder than I would
imagine getting out of the mafia would be.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Look, I used to have a Bally subscription back in
the day it was ballets, and those contracts were criminal.
They would sign you up for years. You didn't even
realize it. The way they would try to sell you
is like, oh, yeah, it's only be nineteen ninety nine
from a month, but they don't.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Tell you.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Have to pay for three years. Couldn't get out of it,
and then they would ruin your credit. Had to learn
the hard way. So you're not buying like a nineteen
ninety nine gym membership back then, you're basically making a
three thousand dollars purchase three years.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Foosh, weren't you selling those memberships? Aren't you a part
of that gym? Don't you be quiet over there?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Me?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, I think you were part of that gym. Weren't you?
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Weren't you selling those memberships? I think I'd have a
lot more money right now if I did?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
No, no, no, no, no, Just answer the question yes or no.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
No.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
You didn't work at Bally's. No, which gym were you at?
I actually used to go to Planet Fitness. Well they're cheap, yeah,
super cheap?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Are they still ten dollars?
Speaker 6 (22:57):
A month, and yeah, I think actually, no, I think
they also raise their prices. I think they're like eleven
or twelve bucks a month. Yeah, that's a lot. One
dollar for the first month, get you in the door.
I could handle ten eleven dollars a month. But they
auto built. When I was at La Fitness, they auto built.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah they did. Yeah, they all.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Yeah, well, this is a good thing that the governor
has done. I support this. No, I'm all for the
out of get me out of a bunch of both subscriptions.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I don't want people taking any of my money without
my knowledge and consent. And just because I got drunk
one night and I wanted the Canelo Alvarez fight, it
doesn't mean I need to pay for a streaming service
and perpetuity after that.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
And that's what they're banking on.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You know, if you're trying to get a fight for
fight night, yeah you'll get the fight. You've probably had
a few pops, you know, you might not be in
your right mind, and then three months later you realize, hey,
money keeps leaving your account.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
What's up with that. It's like having a wife or something.
Just money disappearing. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I say stuff like that to see if it comes
back to me at home, you see, if my wife
will tell us, did you make.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
A joke the other night talking about.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Well, I know you don't listen to my show, baby,
so someone must have told you about that and they're incorrect. No, no, no, no,
I would never say anything like that.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Never.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
It's Later with Mo Kelly k IF I Am six
forty Were Life Everywhere, the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Gotta tell you some very cool stuff tomorrow night. Tomorrow night,
we will start giving way passes to our exclusive pre Halloween.
Soare at the Honda Studios at iHeartMedia, you and a guest,
and all you need to do is make it through
(24:51):
on name that movie called Classic.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
It's gonna be serious tomorrow night. It will be no
more delays.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Were just giving out passes, Yes, you and a guest
to the best party, probably that cafe I've ever seen.
I don't want to make any grand you know, predictions,
but probably.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Now are we going to open this up and make
it possible for individuals who have won before to call
in and win, because you know, we try our best
to make sure that we're allowing new people to win.
But we've got a lot of people who've been listening
for a long time. Well we've already been, you know,
(25:31):
chomping at the bed. We could do week by week.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
In other words, we could say the first week people
who haven't won anything.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Oh, we could do that.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I'm not saying we will, but we just got to
make sure that we get all our peoples.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
In the house.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute. So this isn't a
small little party here in the studio.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
We're talking about a studio artist upwards of maybe one
hundred hundred and fifty people.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Oh that big.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
So this is a This is a shin dig.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yes is a party, Yes, with food and beverage and
hopefully some topless dancers. Hopefully. I can't guarantee that. I
just still get that cleared with corporate mark and secure
the talent. Okay, I'm not dancing topless. I don't care
how many dollar bills or the talent.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Not be the talent Okay, not your I said.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Secure Okay, clarification things right, So you're gonna have to
go through your yod and hire some talent. Just don't
take him across state lines. That's all I ask. End
up like Diddy.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I wait, I earned that one, thank you very much.
But that starts tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
We will be giving away passes will put you on
the list to the most exclusive party. We'll have some
very special guests in the house. I don't know, maybe
some KFI talent may want to roll through as well.
But it's going to be the party for Halloween. Oh
and yes, it's going to be costume. Yes, absolutely, yes, absolutely,
I'm going to be in costume. Mark is going to
(27:08):
be probably not dressed up. Twalla is going to be
in costume. Sefan don't know. We'll try to encourage him
and you coming to the party will be in costume. Oh,
it is going to be the thing October thirtieth here
at the Honda Studios what we call the fifth floor
Honda Studios. iHeartMedia also got to let you know it's
(27:31):
Halloween time at the Disneyland Resort and KFI AM six
forty wants to give you a chance to experience the
frightful fun. A Happiest Halloween has brought fiendishly tasty treats
Thrills for One and All and Booty for Decor to
both Disneyland excuse me, Disney California Venture Park and Disneyland
Park going on now through Halloween, October thirty. First, keep
(27:52):
listening to KFI and later with mo Kelly for your
chance to win a four pack of one day one
park tickets to the Disneyland Resort. Keep listening specifically to
Later with mon Kelly hen Hint for your chance to
win a four pack of one day one park tickets
to the Disneyland Resort. You know twa, I'm just such
(28:14):
such a giving mood. I just want to give away
more stuff. Is there anything else we can give away?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Oh? What about?
Speaker 7 (28:21):
And I don't know if it's possible. I know Gary
and Shannon are supposed to be broadcasting from the Pacific
Air Show of Hunting Beach.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Oh that's coming up, that's coming up next week.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, that's October fourth through October sixth Yes, I mean
I've been to it.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
That is so cool.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Let me let me see if I can just text
my boss real quick and see if we can get
a four pack to give away like next segment, No pressure,
Robin Burch, Luci Robin can we give away a four
pack for the Pacific Air Show, which is coming up
(29:00):
next week in Huntington Beach.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Hit me back because I'm getting ready to give it away.
Maybe next segment.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
When I talked to the executive director Kevin Elliott, and
I would like to be able to give away a
four pack.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Well, this message is too long. Let me just hit Sam.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
So if she hits me back in the next minute
and a half, hopefully we'll have permission to do that giveaway.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
He actually set that message. Yeah, I love hearing Nick.
It's all real.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
It's all real, And even though Robin's on vacation, she'll
stop and drop whatever she's doing to respond to me,
so it'll be okay.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Hey, Mark, you can really cut the suspense with a knife.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Huh Oh, wait for Hed to hit me back. Yeah, yes,
I am too. Yeah, I can't wait to hear what
she says.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Pacific Air Show is next week October fourth through October sixth,
and we're hopefully going to give away a four pack
four pack for the Pacific Air Show in Huntington Beach.
If you haven't been, it is fan fantastic, it's absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
You have civilian aircraft.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You have military aircraft activities going on the ground, fun
and games for everyone.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
And Huntington Beach is just beautiful.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Up.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
She just hit me back.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I'm I think your show is absolutely wonderful. You're doing
a great job tonight. Okay, I'm just saying da da
da YadA yadayah blah blah. Yes, we got a four
pack to give away. So when we come back, I'll
be joined on the show by Kevin Elliott, Pacific Air
Show executive Director, and we'll give away a four pack.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
But you know what that means.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
You have to listen. Moe, Kelly, Swalla, Sharp, Mark Ronner, Stephen,
whatever your name is.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I was waiting for that. We're live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
We're not just in smart speakers, We're in a couple
of smart ears as well.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
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