October 17, 2024 • 37 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on America’s dwindling trust in media AND the latest Diddy accuser…PLUS – A look at a tech engineer's trick to get a free ride from a Waymo robotaxi - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's later with Mo Kelly KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and yes,
I live and die with my Dodgers, but they're up
for zero in New York. And if you know anything
about the KFI dynamic producer Michelle, former producer for Bill Handle,
and also I would say the keeper of the office
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lotto pool, she's probably absconded with all our money. But
you know, that's a different discussion for a different day.
She hails from New York and I've never heard her
talk about baseball in any way until this week when
we found out that the Dodgers and the New York
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Mets were playing in the National League Championship Series. Hasn't
said anything about baseball for the past thirty five forty years,
but now this week, all of a sudden, she's a big.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Time baseball fan, saying, go Mets. And I'm saying, who
is this person? I don't know you.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
You've never said anything about baseball, but I didn't launch.
I was very kind, I was very respectful, and I
said something to the effect of the metsuck, go Dodgers,
something like that, something along those lines. But the Dodgers
are up four zero right now, and we're gonna follow
this game all the way. Yes, they messed up in
Game two. They gave away home a field advantage. They
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allowed the Mets to tie the series up one to one.
But after the Dodgers win tonight, knock on wood, all
will be right in the world. And let me just
say good evening to the crew, good even to to
walla sharp producer of the show.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
What's going on? I know you don't care anything about
baseball back I can't.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I'm glad that your doyers, those doyers. I'm glad that
your doyers are two to one.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
What are they doing now? It's four to zero? Okay?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
In the game, the series is tied one to one. Oh,
it's one to one, so if they win, it'll be two.
And then how many games do they have to endure this?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It's four out of seven, best, four out of seven,
first one to four and seven games wins the series.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
They go to the World Series after this. How long
has it been since they've been to the World Series?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Twenty twenty, twenty twenty, Yeah, okay, because that's not that's
not bad.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
No, no, no, no, But before that it was they drought.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
They went to the World Series, but they couldn't win
the World Series. Oh so they have been struggling for
the past forty years up until forty years. Yeah, they
won in eighty eight and they didn't win again until
twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
You are loyal, damn. Oh yeah, I'm loyal. Either you're
a real fan or not. Wait a minute, what about
the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know that you have to be with your time
in a bad time and go okay. And and the
Lakers have sucked for a while, with the exception of
when they won, you know, during the pandemic. Yeah, but
basketball's fun to watch, I will say this. Baseball is
much more enjoyable in person. You have to go to
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the game. You can't just watch it on TV because
you only get a very small frame of what's going on.
You can't see the runners in full as far or
the shift, the defensive shift in the outfield. You can't
see all the signs, the guy who's on the third
base coach and the first base coach, and you have
the and the players in the dugout trying to distract
the other players on the field. You can't see all
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that on TV. Oh, okay, it's a much better experience.
Like when Amy King hosts a wake up call. She
usually invites me to a game or two each year,
and I usually go. It's a it's a wonderful experience.
When you're actually there, you have a greater appreciation. And in fact,
it's one of the few sports I would say which
is much more enjoyable listening to on the radio. Much
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better to listen to. It's boring if you're just watching
on TV, but listening to it it's almost like the
birds eye. It's almost like the theater of the mind
type of way that you can enjoy. It's far better.
It's not a great TV product, and they haven't quite
figured it out how to make it more enjoyable for
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the disinterested person like you now and Mark I could
hear depending on who's calling the game, that could be exciting.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But a friend of the show, Adam conscious he has
a great thing that he's developing to kind of give
people a bird's eye view of what's.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Happening on the field. I'd like to see something like that,
and that's the future of all televised sports. He does.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
When he was in the studio, he was showing us
his virtual reality presentation of live sports. That is the future.
I was talking with Tim Conway Jr. Before we came on,
talking about COSM and how they're using this immersive experience
where you're at the game, but you're actually just at
a restaurant with stadium seating.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So it's a way that people can.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Enjoy televised sports, but not in the traditional way that
we've all known, just sitting around a TV, because they
need to find some way to get the non sports fans,
like a Mark Ronner, like a Stephan like a to
Walla Sharp.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm not trying to be dismissed.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I'm being very serious because they need you to find
a reason to tune it as well.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Good evening, Mark Ronner.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Listen, I don't care about baseball, but there is no
greater pleasure on Earth than sitting through a Cubs game
in Wrigley Field with an insanely expensive beer.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
That's fun, But then you understand exactly what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Enjoying baseball is not always about the sport itself. Oh,
It's about the experience of being in the stadium. And
for me, I don't drink beer. With the exception of
when I'm going to a Dodger game, and then when
I go to a Dodger game, then I'll have a beer,
then I'll have two hot dogs. It's about the totality
of the experience. And we talk about the communal experience
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of the movies. It's very much the case in baseball.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Also, you want to find a city with some fun
drunks that aren't like crazed, violent drunks, and Chicago has
really good drunks. I still don't have a good sense
of what kind of drunks LA has because I never
go any place.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
No, they're angry, they're violent, they're not special.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Just trust me, They're garden variety drunks. I say, Okay,
you know, it's not like you say. Hey, you know,
I'm self aware of my own city. I love LA,
but I would never say that LA has the best
sports fans.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We do not. We are some of the worst sports fans. Violent.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Are they violent, Yes, they're violent, temperamental, bandwaggedy.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
One of the biggest criticisms of Dodgers fans was that
we would leave the game early. The game would still
be in doubt, and we would leave it in the
seventh inning with about maybe an hour left of the game.
Why because we're trying to beat the traffic. I mean,
the traffic is a real thing, but it's not a
good enough reason to leave a sporting event.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Cubs games are so much fun. And I just like Chicago.
I love LA and I'm happy I moved here six
years ago. But I like the kind of sports fan
who's gonna spill his beer on me a little bit
and then to make up for it, offer me a
drink of the beer.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Oh no, no, no, that's not that's not gonna happen in La. Okay, no,
that is not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
What happens instead probably a fight, shot in the face,
well worse.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I mean, if you just did a basic Google search
of violence at LA sporting events, you will see a
cornucopia of listings where fans get out of pocket in
the parking lot, in the stadium.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And so it's one of those things where.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I know the LA fan they're not great, all right,
I love my team. I don't like the fans who
love my team. Yeah, that's not so much fun.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Hi, Stepan. Stephan does such a great job of the show.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But the scenes I meant to tell him last night
he was choosing all the bumpers.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
He just made the show Chef's Kiss. It was great,
It was great. Ah good.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Also, I watched like literally two thirty second videos of
the cousm that would make me go to a sports event,
and it's really cool because just one half is like
stadium seating and you see every angle and you don't
have to deal with the you know, create as many
people and it's air conditioned.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's air conditioned.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
You don't have the lines that you would normally see
if you're trying to get concessions or beer or something
like that. It makes it a much more enjoyable experience.
You don't have to deal with the parking issues. And
if you can feel like you're at the game without
having to actually go.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
To the game, sometimes isn't enough.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's later with mo Kelly canf I am six forty
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and Mark, I
know you're gonna have something to say about this when
we come back.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Americans trust in media.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It remains not is now, but it remains at an
all time low.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, go figure, huh wonder.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Why with moo Kelly six.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Did you know that
Americans are continuing to register record low trust in mass
media and in the definition of mass media is the problem.
But regardless, thirty one percent of Americans express a great
deal or fair amount of confidence. Only thirty one percent
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express that confidence in the media to report the news fully, accurately,
and fairly. And that's similar to last year's number of
thirty two percent. But let me just stop right there.
The whole idea of mass media, the thinking that all
media is the same media. Where we talking about radio, television,
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social media. But in radio is that public radio and
commercial radio. In television is that public television commercial television?
You know, are we looking at PBS which is public television,
and ABC which is broadcast television, and also Fox News
which is cable television the same way. They're not governed
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by the same rules, but people have varying levels of
expectations with those different media. But also you can talk
about newspapers. Newspapers, television and radio in terms of trust.
First fail to thirty two percent in terms of confidence
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back in twenty sixteen as if nothing was going on
that year, and also fell to thirty two percent this year,
for the third consecutive year, more US adults have zero
trust in all the media thirty six percent than trust
it a great deal or fair amount another thirty three percent.
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A third of Americans express not much confidence. I wonder,
and Mark, I do want your opinion on this. I
know you have to do the news, you know, which
is part and parcel of this conversation. I wonder how
many Americans understand the distinction between cable news and broadcast news.
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I wonder how many Americans understand what it means to
be on cable news and how it's not governed by
the FCC as opposed to ABC, NBCCBS, which are governed
by the FCC because they're using the public airways.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
That's why the FCC is involved with them and not cable.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I wonder if people know the difference between what you do,
Mark Ronner, as a news anchor and what I do
as opinion and editorial as a personality, because if they did,
I think, in other words, if there was a better
literacy quotion regarding media, I think they would have greater
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trust in quote unquote mass media. And you know what
they say, if you don't know anything, that everything's a conspiracy.
I think we're dealing with that in the perception of
quote unquote mass media.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Where do you come out on that.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Well, I'll tell you there has been so much disinformation
from propaganda outlets, and that has devalued the news all
across the board, even from legit news outlets. I mean,
don't forget that Fox had to pay what seven hundred
and eighty seven million dollars. Newsmax is now backpedaling, the
Gateway Pundit and another news that's just settled by the way, okay, okay,
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Gateway settled another suit. People don't know what to believe
amid all of that. They can't always tell the difference
between what's on, say, ABC, and what they read on
on Fox or Newsmax, and even legit news outlets can't
always be trusted to say what to say what people
see with their own eyes. Look at how say the
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New York Times whitewashes so many things with such neutral
bland on to both sides there to the point of
misleading language, whether whether it's false equivalents or phony objectivity
or whatever. There's a reason I've been saying ever since
I got into the news business, decades ago that you
will often hear more truth on late night comedians than
you will in the news because they don't go out
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of their way to be so careful because they're afraid
of offending anybody anywhere ever, and I gotta also say
the constant attacks on the free press by people who
don't want to be held accountable for the things they
say and the things they do, that doesn't help either.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
And also there is a profit component to this. Yes, ABC, NBC,
CBS back in the day were governed by profit. They
were businesses, and they are businesses today. But now it's
a completely different monster, where the mass marketing of the
news industry has made it where they're more concerned with
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eyeballs than delivering the information in a way which is factual, actual,
and above reproach.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
This is an important point and I'm glad you got
to this. Networks used to treat news as a loss
leader and a public service.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Explain lost leader, because I don't think everyone knows what
you mean by that.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Not a profit center.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It's something they do for the public good that they
don't expect to be a money generating endeavor. You give
people the news because it's a public good to give
people the news, and it's how you give back for
using the community's airwaves.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
And I got to say, you do.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Draw a legit distinction between broadcast, cable Internet. The FCC
controls broadcast, FTC controls cable, but when you really think
about it, it's all the public's airwaves. I don't care
what anybody says. This has to start getting regulated into
Kingdom come because we have seen the results of all
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the disinformation, whether it's people die from COVID disinformation x
percent of the population. I think last I saw seventy
percent of Republicans still don't believe the twenty twenty election
was legit. We can't have that and still function as
a society. Well, let's connect the dots.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
If you say seventy percent of Republicans don't believe that
the twenty twenty election was legitimate, and we don't also
say that Fox News and also Newsmas had something to
do with that belief, who were also sued almost into
a bolivion and had to settle. Then we're not having
an honest conversation because one impacts the other. And also,
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remember last night we were saying politics, we weave politics
into everything, when more times than not, it really doesn't
have a place in everything. Talking about the media, currently
fifty four percent of Democrats and twenty seven percent of
Independence and twelve percent of Republicans say they have a
great deal or fair amount of trust in the media.
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Independence trust matches the record low in twenty twenty two,
while Democrats and Republicans are statistically similar to their historical
low points. In other words, if you go through the numbers,
there is a political alignment or willingness or unwillingness to
believe the media as an extension of their political beliefs.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah, it's all confirmation bias. So ask yourself what's changed
between when we were kids and there was Walter Cronkite
and all the main news anchors that everybody body trusted
and now well, one answer is that they're just not
all as trustworthy. Flatly, we're being fire host with propaganda
twenty four hours a day, and that'll knock anybody off balance.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
And it extends beyond just the perceptions of media. The
news media may be the most excuse me, the least
trusted group among ten US civic and political institutions involved
in a democratic small D process. The legislative branch of
the federal government, consisting of course, of the Senate and
the House is rated about as poorly as the media,
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with thirty four percent trusting it. So it's not just
disbelief in the media, it's disbelief in our long standing institutions,
including the Oval Office, including Congress, including the judicial branch
and the Supreme Court and the federal judges.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, when you have all out tribal war between two
sides on every possible cultural front in your society, nothing's
going to get done. This is the least productive content
Congress in I believe the country's history, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yes, And it's getting worse, And we say like, well,
what did such and such administration get done? And we
don't know our basic civics. So there's nothing that a
president can do unless the House and Senate pass something
and then the president can sign something. But we have
this belief that presidents are supposed to you know, are
you better off four years now than are you better
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off now than four years ago? Kind of disregarding the
standstill that we have in Congress. We could be much better, better,
much better, but we refuse to allow either party to
govern it's all connection.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
And if every single thing is my side against your side,
and I'm going to block you and dump on you
no matter what in the face of any evidence or
anything else, how do you expect anything to function.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't expect it to function.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
My question is how do we get back to the
place where it could function? How do we get back
to where we were, let's say, twenty years ago, with
a modicum of belief in our our pillars, our institutions,
and also our press.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Well, one answer to that is you must regulate all
the disinformation. And you watch the people who howl about
putting a clamp down on disinformation. Those are never the
good guys.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
And this is why I was so disappointed that smart
Matic and also Dominion settled.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I think there needed to be a public.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Accounting of what was done, who was responsible, and why
you don't settle for seven hundred and eighty seven million
unless you are egregious in your actions to the point
of those were company ending lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I should have been, And I don't understand how we're
not all on the same page with the simple sentiment
I don't want to be lied to, even if it's
by somebody on my own side. I just want the straight.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
News because America is not ready for that yet and
there's going to be a price to pay for it.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, your country needs you, Mo, Well, I'm out there
for office. That's for damn sure.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It's Later with Mo Kelly CAFI AM six forty. We're
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Have I said I told you so lately? Have I
said it tonight? You never say no?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Have I said it tonight? I told you so? Twelve?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Did I make any reference to calling it as it
relates to P Diddy?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Did I?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Did I say I told you so lately? Not yet? Okay? Okay? Seven?
Have I said it today to the best of your knowledge?
Not today? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Okay, Mark, do you have any remembrance of me saying
I told you so today?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
I'm looking forward to the novelty of hearing you say
I told you so for the very first time?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Every comes Get ready because I did remember I said
that there would be more accusers, which you're coming forward.
I remember I said exactly that that there would be
someone else who would say, did he attack me?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Did he assaulted me? Did he rape me? And I'm
not trying to be funny. I'm just saying that after
working in the business for so many years, there are
patterns and there was a modicum of knowledge about people
in this business and what they were doing. It should
not surprise anyone. Well it would surprise you if you
weren't paying attention. But another person has come forward and
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alleged that did he gang raped her? And did so
as payback for allegedly making the claim that did he
was involved in Tupac Shakur's murder. This was something let
me just before I get to the story. The whole
idea of Tupac Shakur being murdered at the height of
the so called East Coast West Coast rivalry was something
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which hung over hip hop music for a long time,
and I was in the business and I lived through it.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I worked through it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
In fact, when I was working at Interscope Records, Tupac's
mother was working with us at Interscope Records, so it
was something that we were always thinking about and working
at Interscope Records, Tupac's mother was there and you would
have sug Knight, who also worked there.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
It was a weird, weird.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Time, but it was real in a sense of the
belief that Diddy had something to do with Tupac's murder.
We couldn't prove it, and we actually we didn't even
talk about it out loud.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I don't know about U Twaala. It was just one
of those things.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
We're going back to consequences, you know, that someone might
have had something to say and it might have been violent.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, we tried our best to dance around the facts
of what was happening, especially considering that Biggie was killed
just down the street from our station. It was all
too real with us in the urban music community to
be mouthing off.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
At that time. Use that as some background.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
The lawsuit claims that Ditty, with the help of other
unknown accomplices, used a TV remote to rape the accuser,
and she does put her name on the lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Ashley Parum.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Parum had allegedly virtually met Ditty during a FaceTime call
started by a man she had met outside a bar
back in February of twenty eighteen, and in an attempt
to impress people with his famous friend. This guy wanted
to get Ditty on the phone to impress her. Param
shared that she wasn't impressed with this man knowing Ditty,
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and she said that she thought Diddy had something to
do with Tupac's murder. On March twenty third, twenty eighteen, allegedly,
Param was invited to the man's house here in California.
This was filed in California, so this is a local
story to help with his cancer medication, which he used
as a pretense or pretext to set her up to
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be assaulted by Ditty. This man, who I guess was
trying to impress her and Ditty were working together in
this Colmbs approached Palm with a knife and threatened to
give her a quote unquote Glasgow smile. Among the several
defendants is Christina Korum, Comb's alleged manipulator in chief, who
allegedly called off the rapper's knife advancement, saying the Glasgow
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smile would be a turn off to their potential clients.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
They would sell Param too.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Twala, there's absolutely nothing in this lawsuit that surprises me. Yes,
they're allegations, Yes they've not been proven. No they're not criminal. Yes,
it's a civil lawsuit, but there's nothing in here. Given
my time in the business, what strikes me is even
odd at all.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
No, not even the idea of a Glasgow smile and
all this I mean, this is this is more of
And I believe if you go back and listen to
the podcast, it might have been yesterday, it might have
been Friday where you said there will be another ditty accuser.
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I did say my words, I can, you can write
it down. There will be another one.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
But folks just on the podcast right absolutely is all right?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Okay, So I did say it, and I did call
it out in the moment that there would be another,
and I wanted to memorialize it as I was saying it,
because I was looking forward to the opportunity to.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Say I was rying and you can, as they say,
you have the receipts. Okay, yeah, okay, I do have.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
The receipts, and I believe there are going to be
more receipts because the momentum is increasing, not decreasing, as
more people come out. More people are now still deciding
to come out. They are in conversation with different legal
representatives and they're considering where they're going to file, what
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statutes they're going to try to file under. This is
a process for each and every individual, so it's not
all going to be at once. And if you've notice,
some have been in New York, some have been in Texas,
some have filed in California. Because they're looking at the
different legal options.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Now, what do you say, looking at the other side
of the whatabouts and those who are crying foul about
another powerful man being targeted and taken down, what do
you say about the fact that most of these are
civil suits seeking financial restitution versus criminal charges.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
In most cases, and I have to generalize, in most
cases the statute of limitations has expired. There have been
some law changes, like the Survivors Act in New York,
and it was one law in California which allowed like
a two year grace period at least on a civil
suit side to file these lawsuits. And unfortunately, if there
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are no criminal options, if there's no criminal recourse, that
all you have is a civil recourse. I don't look
down on the alleged victims because they're filing a civil lawsuit.
Let me give you a perfect example. We're talking about
Ashley Parham in this particular suit. This situation shows that
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she was treated at a hospital and had a rape
kit performed. During the subsequent investigation, Parham gave a statement
to the Walnut Creek Police and filed a report with
the Arenda Police Department. So there is a record, a
contemporaneous record of what happened and when it happened. That
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is all the record that people can refer to.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It's not like she said, well, she just made this
up or she just decided to come forward. Now, no, no, no, no, no,
that's not true. That is absolutely not true. That may
not be the case for everyone who's accusing him, but
in this instance, oh no, their police reports to back
up what she said. Now, she didn't mention Sean Combs's
name in those suits, but it's enough for investigators to
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go on. It's enough for them to corroborate what she
has said with what she did years ago, back in
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
They're gonna be wait, are we rolling tape? Are we
rolling tape?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I just want to make sure that we're getting this
one on tape. This is Wednesday, Wednesday. What's the date?
Wednesday the sixteenth, Is that right?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Okay, on Wednesday, the sixteenth, mister mo Kelly is again
going on record and saying that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
There will be other Diddy accusers plural by dextek.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I wish I could like give some odds on this
because I could make some people some money.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
They're going to be other accusers. They're going twala, you
want to take that bet? You're gonna think that. No, no, no,
that's a fool's bet.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Mark, what side do you want to want to bet?
Four or against me? The floodgates are open. We wouldn't
make very much money.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Okay, Stephan, you're my true believer, right, yeah, absolutely, Okay, they're.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Going to be more, and they're gonna be more. I
would say horrible accounts.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Why because usually, and I'm not gonna say ditty specifically,
but usually, when you're talking about these pathological behaviors, they've
been going on for decades, decades, So you're gonna find
people in each and every decade who allegedly been victimized.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
We talked about this with Bill cost Me.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
People want to say, oh my gosh, they're coming from
the nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies, and you find that, Wow,
this has been going on for actually thirty forty fifty years.
Diddy's not that old, but you'll find that this behavior
allegedly has been ongoing for the past thirty plus years.
All I can say is, none of this is new.
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If you knew anything about what was going on in
the industry at that time, and I do. I was
there in a sense of we knew what people were
allegedly doing, and we didn't say anything as best we
could because we didn't want to get killed.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Fair enough, you know, I want to live.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Marcel, who's one of my friends who worked at Interscope
with me, who's here doing.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Photos for the show. He's laughing because he knows I'm
telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
He knows I'm telling the truth because it was a
dangerous time, and you're just now getting a sense of
how dangerous it was because people were coming forward. And
this woman is allegend that she was raped for making
a remark about Ditty having something to do with Tupac's murder.
And then if any of this this is true, she
was set up and raked with a physical object. Now
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what do you think they would have done to me?
I'm not trying to be funny. That's how serious.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
All this is. And there will be more victims. I
told you before and I'm telling you again.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Let's talk about Weimo and how a former Twitter engineer
got a way Moo robot taxi to give her a
six and a half hour ride around San Francisco because
the waymo's are just too stupid. They don't know how
to actually do anything. Six and a half hours. No, no, no,
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six and a half hours. Sophia Tung, a former Twitter
software engineer, said that Weimo had given her a promo
code for a free ride after the engineer set up
in live stream that pointed to a Waimo depot, you
know where they had all those Weymo cars honking their
horns at one another. So for the inconvenience, they gave
her a free ride coupon. What she did was then, okay,
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well I got your number, I'm going to gain the system.
She got in a Weimo with the free ride, and
she decided before she got to her original stop, she
would keep changing that final destination. She get let's say
nine tenths of the way there, and she get and
then she would decide let me change to another location
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on the other side of the city. And you know,
in San Francisco, it takes forever to get from one
side to the other. And she was crisscrossing the city,
and in fact, she picked up friends along the way,
knowing that the Weimo won't know that it's picking up
a new rider if you don't open the door. So
she had friends climb in the window. She had friends,
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and she was taken all around the city. And she
was originally trying to stay in the Weimo for twelve
hours and only lasted six and a half hours. She
modified her diet, making sure that she went to the
bathroom and everything early in the morning to make sure
that she could stay in the car as long as
she could. The takeaway is the car is dumb.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
No, no, no. The takeaway is people in San Francisco
are crooked. This is the same city that tried to
shut down Weaimo with their felonious grandmother getting run over story.
Now I don't even believe that to be true. This
woman used her wicked Twitter smarts or wherever it was
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she was at, which is already felonious.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
By he said, well, did you see how it was
that Twitter at Twitter.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Okay, oh, Grail, we're taking the word of someone who
worked at Twitter. At X said Twitter didn't say X.
That's okay, what premo whatever whatever. She was probably xed
out of there because of her hate for autonomous vehicles.
And this is yet another attack against progress. Do you
not see how this war game the system only to
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be filthy? She planning on being in the sea for
twelve hours? What kind of filth bag is she that
she would have her friends climb through the window like
some sneak over this.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Oh, it highlights the inability of the car number one,
and it also highlights the lack of supervision and oversight
of the car where it could be misused in this way.
You would think that there would be some sort of
They got cameras around the car, but they can't see
what the car is doing. There's no one monitoring that
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a car is on the same ride for six and
a half hours.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
You don't see a problem with that? Oh? What I mean?
Are you defending way most pockets? I mean, what do
you doing? No, I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I'm trying to highlight the fact that there are so
many gaps in this system. People are only now realizing
the limitations because more and more people are using it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
And look, it's almost like you're.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Bringing in a black hat excuse me, a white hat
hacker to show you you the holes in your system.
Their holes in a system, and it's dangerous. They need
to be off. There's someone that died dangerous, someone went.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Cold. That's right, just like the joy writing is how
you got those street takeovers? Hey, hey, s many.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
And who forgot the days of drag racing in the streets.
I don't want to hear you talking about because you
are talking about something that is immaterial to our conversation
about the advancement of a self driving autonomous vehicles.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
This is yet someone else who.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Actually I should be thanking this trash bag for taking
advantage of Waymo in the way that she did. Look
because about because okay, this tech expert. How about that
that's tech who only helped waymost caused by saying aha,
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this is something that we now way more have to
take advantage of fixing the problem.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
This is this is not a bad thing, is actually
a good thing. Thank you?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Uh oh almost cursed that, Yes you did, thank you you.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Father? Why wow?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I heard the wow you brought her family in K
nine of Oh my goodness, are you trying to call
her a chinchilla?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
How do you say it?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
You don't want to say it to you don't it's
too rich. How about that way Moo is a menace.
It's a danger and a menace, and they must be stopped.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
This woman was actually treated with.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Kindness, This was actually offered the opportunity to make to
make good for this, this this hiccup in San Francisco
with all the beeping, when must say you know what,
we are sorry, ma'am, we will take care of you.
Here a free ride on us wherever you want to go.
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And what did she do? Just like they do in
San Francisco. Let me take what's from with San Francisco
is a beautiful city. They are against progress, they are
against Waymo, and they are against progress. That's why people
in the movie out of San Francisco. Is Waymo paying
you in crypto or in hard cash?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Which is it? Don't appreciate that. I don't appreciate that
he's on the take. He is on the take at all.
This is not right.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I am literally speaking up for the advancement of technology.
And you know what even though people want to cast
the side eye at us at at at Musk and
his optimist bot, saying it was puppeted this, that and
the other. Look, at least the man is trying to
advance technology, be it through his rocket being grabbed or
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his you know.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Is that like a metaphor?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Wait is there?
Speaker 4 (37:02):
We could see the running totals as they add up
and what you're making from all this.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Let's turn around and check the tope board, ye shall we? Yeah,
just like Jerry Lewis cod Man, Oh gosh, okay. K
if I am six forty. We're live everywhere in the
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the radio,
It's later with Mo Kelly KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and yes,
I live and die with my Dodgers, but they're up
for zero in New York. And if you know anything
about the KFI dynamic producer Michelle, former producer for Bill Handle,
and also I would say the keeper of the office
(00:44):
lotto pool, she's probably absconded with all our money. But
you know, that's a different discussion for a different day.
She hails from New York and I've never heard her
talk about baseball in any way until this week when
we found out that the Dodgers and the New York
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Mets were playing in the National League Championship Series. Hasn't
said anything about baseball for the past thirty five forty years,
but now this week, all of a sudden, she's a big.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Time baseball fan, saying, go Mets. And I'm saying, who
is this person? I don't know you.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
You've never said anything about baseball, but I didn't launch.
I was very kind, I was very respectful, and I
said something to the effect of the metsuck, go Dodgers,
something like that, something along those lines. But the Dodgers
are up four zero right now, and we're gonna follow
this game all the way. Yes, they messed up in
Game two. They gave away home a field advantage. They
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allowed the Mets to tie the series up one to one.
But after the Dodgers win tonight, knock on wood, all
will be right in the world. And let me just
say good evening to the crew, good even to to
walla sharp producer of the show.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
What's going on? I know you don't care anything about
baseball back I can't.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I'm glad that your doyers, those doyers. I'm glad that
your doyers are two to one.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
What are they doing now? It's four to zero? Okay?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
In the game, the series is tied one to one. Oh,
it's one to one, so if they win, it'll be two.
And then how many games do they have to endure this?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It's four out of seven, best, four out of seven,
first one to four and seven games wins the series.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
They go to the World Series after this. How long
has it been since they've been to the World Series?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Twenty twenty, twenty twenty, Yeah, okay, because that's not that's
not bad.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
No, no, no, no, But before that it was they drought.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
They went to the World Series, but they couldn't win
the World Series. Oh so they have been struggling for
the past forty years up until forty years. Yeah, they
won in eighty eight and they didn't win again until
twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
You are loyal, damn. Oh yeah, I'm loyal. Either you're
a real fan or not. Wait a minute, what about
the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know that you have to be with your time
in a bad time and go okay. And and the
Lakers have sucked for a while, with the exception of
when they won, you know, during the pandemic. Yeah, but
basketball's fun to watch, I will say this. Baseball is
much more enjoyable in person. You have to go to
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the game. You can't just watch it on TV because
you only get a very small frame of what's going on.
You can't see the runners in full as far or
the shift, the defensive shift in the outfield. You can't
see all the signs, the guy who's on the third
base coach and the first base coach, and you have
the and the players in the dugout trying to distract
the other players on the field. You can't see all
(03:39):
that on TV. Oh, okay, it's a much better experience.
Like when Amy King hosts a wake up call. She
usually invites me to a game or two each year,
and I usually go. It's a it's a wonderful experience.
When you're actually there, you have a greater appreciation. And in fact,
it's one of the few sports I would say which
is much more enjoyable listening to on the radio. Much
(04:02):
better to listen to. It's boring if you're just watching
on TV, but listening to it it's almost like the
birds eye. It's almost like the theater of the mind
type of way that you can enjoy. It's far better.
It's not a great TV product, and they haven't quite
figured it out how to make it more enjoyable for
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the disinterested person like you now and Mark I could
hear depending on who's calling the game, that could be exciting.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But a friend of the show, Adam conscious he has
a great thing that he's developing to kind of give
people a bird's eye view of what's.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Happening on the field. I'd like to see something like that,
and that's the future of all televised sports. He does.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
When he was in the studio, he was showing us
his virtual reality presentation of live sports. That is the future.
I was talking with Tim Conway Jr. Before we came on,
talking about COSM and how they're using this immersive experience
where you're at the game, but you're actually just at
a restaurant with stadium seating.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So it's a way that people can.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Enjoy televised sports, but not in the traditional way that
we've all known, just sitting around a TV, because they
need to find some way to get the non sports fans,
like a Mark Ronner, like a Stephan like a to
Walla Sharp.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm not trying to be dismissed.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I'm being very serious because they need you to find
a reason to tune it as well.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Good evening, Mark Ronner.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Listen, I don't care about baseball, but there is no
greater pleasure on Earth than sitting through a Cubs game
in Wrigley Field with an insanely expensive beer.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
That's fun, But then you understand exactly what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Enjoying baseball is not always about the sport itself. Oh,
It's about the experience of being in the stadium. And
for me, I don't drink beer. With the exception of
when I'm going to a Dodger game, and then when
I go to a Dodger game, then I'll have a beer,
then I'll have two hot dogs. It's about the totality
of the experience. And we talk about the communal experience
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of the movies. It's very much the case in baseball.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Also, you want to find a city with some fun
drunks that aren't like crazed, violent drunks, and Chicago has
really good drunks. I still don't have a good sense
of what kind of drunks LA has because I never
go any place.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
No, they're angry, they're violent, they're not special.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Just trust me, They're garden variety drunks. I say, Okay,
you know, it's not like you say. Hey, you know,
I'm self aware of my own city. I love LA,
but I would never say that LA has the best
sports fans.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We do not. We are some of the worst sports fans. Violent.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Are they violent, Yes, they're violent, temperamental, bandwaggedy.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
One of the biggest criticisms of Dodgers fans was that
we would leave the game early. The game would still
be in doubt, and we would leave it in the
seventh inning with about maybe an hour left of the game.
Why because we're trying to beat the traffic. I mean,
the traffic is a real thing, but it's not a
good enough reason to leave a sporting event.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Cubs games are so much fun. And I just like Chicago.
I love LA and I'm happy I moved here six
years ago. But I like the kind of sports fan
who's gonna spill his beer on me a little bit
and then to make up for it, offer me a
drink of the beer.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Oh no, no, no, that's not that's not gonna happen in La. Okay, no,
that is not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
What happens instead probably a fight, shot in the face,
well worse.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I mean, if you just did a basic Google search
of violence at LA sporting events, you will see a
cornucopia of listings where fans get out of pocket in
the parking lot, in the stadium.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And so it's one of those things where.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I know the LA fan they're not great, all right,
I love my team. I don't like the fans who
love my team. Yeah, that's not so much fun.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Hi, Stepan. Stephan does such a great job of the show.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But the scenes I meant to tell him last night
he was choosing all the bumpers.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
He just made the show Chef's Kiss. It was great,
It was great. Ah good.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Also, I watched like literally two thirty second videos of
the cousm that would make me go to a sports event,
and it's really cool because just one half is like
stadium seating and you see every angle and you don't
have to deal with the you know, create as many
people and it's air conditioned.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's air conditioned.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
You don't have the lines that you would normally see
if you're trying to get concessions or beer or something
like that. It makes it a much more enjoyable experience.
You don't have to deal with the parking issues. And
if you can feel like you're at the game without
having to actually go.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
To the game, sometimes isn't enough.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's later with mo Kelly canf I am six forty
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and Mark, I
know you're gonna have something to say about this when
we come back.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Americans trust in media.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It remains not is now, but it remains at an
all time low.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, go figure, huh wonder.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Why with moo Kelly six.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Did you know that
Americans are continuing to register record low trust in mass
media and in the definition of mass media is the problem.
But regardless, thirty one percent of Americans express a great
deal or fair amount of confidence. Only thirty one percent
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express that confidence in the media to report the news fully, accurately,
and fairly. And that's similar to last year's number of
thirty two percent. But let me just stop right there.
The whole idea of mass media, the thinking that all
media is the same media. Where we talking about radio, television,
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social media. But in radio is that public radio and
commercial radio. In television is that public television commercial television?
You know, are we looking at PBS which is public television,
and ABC which is broadcast television, and also Fox News
which is cable television the same way. They're not governed
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by the same rules, but people have varying levels of
expectations with those different media. But also you can talk
about newspapers. Newspapers, television and radio in terms of trust.
First fail to thirty two percent in terms of confidence
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back in twenty sixteen as if nothing was going on
that year, and also fell to thirty two percent this year,
for the third consecutive year, more US adults have zero
trust in all the media thirty six percent than trust
it a great deal or fair amount another thirty three percent.
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A third of Americans express not much confidence. I wonder,
and Mark, I do want your opinion on this. I
know you have to do the news, you know, which
is part and parcel of this conversation. I wonder how
many Americans understand the distinction between cable news and broadcast news.
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I wonder how many Americans understand what it means to
be on cable news and how it's not governed by
the FCC as opposed to ABC, NBCCBS, which are governed
by the FCC because they're using the public airways.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
That's why the FCC is involved with them and not cable.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I wonder if people know the difference between what you do,
Mark Ronner, as a news anchor and what I do
as opinion and editorial as a personality, because if they did,
I think, in other words, if there was a better
literacy quotion regarding media, I think they would have greater
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trust in quote unquote mass media. And you know what
they say, if you don't know anything, that everything's a conspiracy.
I think we're dealing with that in the perception of
quote unquote mass media.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Where do you come out on that.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Well, I'll tell you there has been so much disinformation
from propaganda outlets, and that has devalued the news all
across the board, even from legit news outlets. I mean,
don't forget that Fox had to pay what seven hundred
and eighty seven million dollars. Newsmax is now backpedaling, the
Gateway Pundit and another news that's just settled by the way, okay, okay,
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Gateway settled another suit. People don't know what to believe
amid all of that. They can't always tell the difference
between what's on, say, ABC, and what they read on
on Fox or Newsmax, and even legit news outlets can't
always be trusted to say what to say what people
see with their own eyes. Look at how say the
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New York Times whitewashes so many things with such neutral
bland on to both sides there to the point of
misleading language, whether whether it's false equivalents or phony objectivity
or whatever. There's a reason I've been saying ever since
I got into the news business, decades ago that you
will often hear more truth on late night comedians than
you will in the news because they don't go out
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of their way to be so careful because they're afraid
of offending anybody anywhere ever, and I gotta also say
the constant attacks on the free press by people who
don't want to be held accountable for the things they
say and the things they do, that doesn't help either.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
And also there is a profit component to this. Yes, ABC, NBC,
CBS back in the day were governed by profit. They
were businesses, and they are businesses today. But now it's
a completely different monster, where the mass marketing of the
news industry has made it where they're more concerned with
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eyeballs than delivering the information in a way which is factual, actual,
and above reproach.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
This is an important point and I'm glad you got
to this. Networks used to treat news as a loss
leader and a public service.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Explain lost leader, because I don't think everyone knows what
you mean by that.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Not a profit center.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It's something they do for the public good that they
don't expect to be a money generating endeavor. You give
people the news because it's a public good to give
people the news, and it's how you give back for
using the community's airwaves.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
And I got to say, you do.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Draw a legit distinction between broadcast, cable Internet. The FCC
controls broadcast, FTC controls cable, but when you really think
about it, it's all the public's airwaves. I don't care
what anybody says. This has to start getting regulated into
Kingdom come because we have seen the results of all
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the disinformation, whether it's people die from COVID disinformation x
percent of the population. I think last I saw seventy
percent of Republicans still don't believe the twenty twenty election
was legit. We can't have that and still function as
a society. Well, let's connect the dots.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
If you say seventy percent of Republicans don't believe that
the twenty twenty election was legitimate, and we don't also
say that Fox News and also Newsmas had something to
do with that belief, who were also sued almost into
a bolivion and had to settle. Then we're not having
an honest conversation because one impacts the other. And also,
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remember last night we were saying politics, we weave politics
into everything, when more times than not, it really doesn't
have a place in everything. Talking about the media, currently
fifty four percent of Democrats and twenty seven percent of
Independence and twelve percent of Republicans say they have a
great deal or fair amount of trust in the media.
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Independence trust matches the record low in twenty twenty two,
while Democrats and Republicans are statistically similar to their historical
low points. In other words, if you go through the numbers,
there is a political alignment or willingness or unwillingness to
believe the media as an extension of their political beliefs.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah, it's all confirmation bias. So ask yourself what's changed
between when we were kids and there was Walter Cronkite
and all the main news anchors that everybody body trusted
and now well, one answer is that they're just not
all as trustworthy. Flatly, we're being fire host with propaganda
twenty four hours a day, and that'll knock anybody off balance.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
And it extends beyond just the perceptions of media. The
news media may be the most excuse me, the least
trusted group among ten US civic and political institutions involved
in a democratic small D process. The legislative branch of
the federal government, consisting of course, of the Senate and
the House is rated about as poorly as the media,
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with thirty four percent trusting it. So it's not just
disbelief in the media, it's disbelief in our long standing institutions,
including the Oval Office, including Congress, including the judicial branch
and the Supreme Court and the federal judges.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, when you have all out tribal war between two
sides on every possible cultural front in your society, nothing's
going to get done. This is the least productive content
Congress in I believe the country's history, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yes, And it's getting worse, And we say like, well,
what did such and such administration get done? And we
don't know our basic civics. So there's nothing that a
president can do unless the House and Senate pass something
and then the president can sign something. But we have
this belief that presidents are supposed to you know, are
you better off four years now than are you better
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off now than four years ago? Kind of disregarding the
standstill that we have in Congress. We could be much better, better,
much better, but we refuse to allow either party to
govern it's all connection.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
And if every single thing is my side against your side,
and I'm going to block you and dump on you
no matter what in the face of any evidence or
anything else, how do you expect anything to function.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't expect it to function.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
My question is how do we get back to the
place where it could function? How do we get back
to where we were, let's say, twenty years ago, with
a modicum of belief in our our pillars, our institutions,
and also our press.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Well, one answer to that is you must regulate all
the disinformation. And you watch the people who howl about
putting a clamp down on disinformation. Those are never the
good guys.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
And this is why I was so disappointed that smart
Matic and also Dominion settled.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I think there needed to be a public.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Accounting of what was done, who was responsible, and why
you don't settle for seven hundred and eighty seven million
unless you are egregious in your actions to the point
of those were company ending lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I should have been, And I don't understand how we're
not all on the same page with the simple sentiment
I don't want to be lied to, even if it's
by somebody on my own side. I just want the straight.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
News because America is not ready for that yet and
there's going to be a price to pay for it.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, your country needs you, Mo, Well, I'm out there
for office. That's for damn sure.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It's Later with Mo Kelly CAFI AM six forty. We're
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Have I said I told you so lately? Have I
said it tonight? You never say no?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Have I said it tonight? I told you so? Twelve?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Did I make any reference to calling it as it
relates to P Diddy?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Did I?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Did I say I told you so lately? Not yet? Okay? Okay? Seven?
Have I said it today to the best of your knowledge?
Not today? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Okay, Mark, do you have any remembrance of me saying
I told you so today?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
I'm looking forward to the novelty of hearing you say
I told you so for the very first time?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Every comes Get ready because I did remember I said
that there would be more accusers, which you're coming forward.
I remember I said exactly that that there would be
someone else who would say, did he attack me?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Did he assaulted me? Did he rape me? And I'm
not trying to be funny. I'm just saying that after
working in the business for so many years, there are
patterns and there was a modicum of knowledge about people
in this business and what they were doing. It should
not surprise anyone. Well it would surprise you if you
weren't paying attention. But another person has come forward and
(20:47):
alleged that did he gang raped her? And did so
as payback for allegedly making the claim that did he
was involved in Tupac Shakur's murder. This was something let
me just before I get to the story. The whole
idea of Tupac Shakur being murdered at the height of
the so called East Coast West Coast rivalry was something
(21:09):
which hung over hip hop music for a long time,
and I was in the business and I lived through it.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I worked through it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
In fact, when I was working at Interscope Records, Tupac's
mother was working with us at Interscope Records, so it
was something that we were always thinking about and working
at Interscope Records, Tupac's mother was there and you would
have sug Knight, who also worked there.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
It was a weird, weird.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Time, but it was real in a sense of the
belief that Diddy had something to do with Tupac's murder.
We couldn't prove it, and we actually we didn't even
talk about it out loud.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I don't know about U Twaala. It was just one
of those things.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
We're going back to consequences, you know, that someone might
have had something to say and it might have been violent.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, we tried our best to dance around the facts
of what was happening, especially considering that Biggie was killed
just down the street from our station. It was all
too real with us in the urban music community to
be mouthing off.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
At that time. Use that as some background.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
The lawsuit claims that Ditty, with the help of other
unknown accomplices, used a TV remote to rape the accuser,
and she does put her name on the lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Ashley Parum.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Parum had allegedly virtually met Ditty during a FaceTime call
started by a man she had met outside a bar
back in February of twenty eighteen, and in an attempt
to impress people with his famous friend. This guy wanted
to get Ditty on the phone to impress her. Param
shared that she wasn't impressed with this man knowing Ditty,
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and she said that she thought Diddy had something to
do with Tupac's murder. On March twenty third, twenty eighteen, allegedly,
Param was invited to the man's house here in California.
This was filed in California, so this is a local
story to help with his cancer medication, which he used
as a pretense or pretext to set her up to
(23:17):
be assaulted by Ditty. This man, who I guess was
trying to impress her and Ditty were working together in
this Colmbs approached Palm with a knife and threatened to
give her a quote unquote Glasgow smile. Among the several
defendants is Christina Korum, Comb's alleged manipulator in chief, who
allegedly called off the rapper's knife advancement, saying the Glasgow
(23:41):
smile would be a turn off to their potential clients.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
They would sell Param too.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Twala, there's absolutely nothing in this lawsuit that surprises me. Yes,
they're allegations, Yes they've not been proven. No they're not criminal. Yes,
it's a civil lawsuit, but there's nothing in here. Given
my time in the business, what strikes me is even
odd at all.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
No, not even the idea of a Glasgow smile and
all this I mean, this is this is more of
And I believe if you go back and listen to
the podcast, it might have been yesterday, it might have
been Friday where you said there will be another ditty accuser.
(24:24):
I did say my words, I can, you can write
it down. There will be another one.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
But folks just on the podcast right absolutely is all right?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Okay, So I did say it, and I did call
it out in the moment that there would be another,
and I wanted to memorialize it as I was saying it,
because I was looking forward to the opportunity to.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Say I was rying and you can, as they say,
you have the receipts. Okay, yeah, okay, I do have.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
The receipts, and I believe there are going to be
more receipts because the momentum is increasing, not decreasing, as
more people come out. More people are now still deciding
to come out. They are in conversation with different legal
representatives and they're considering where they're going to file, what
(25:09):
statutes they're going to try to file under. This is
a process for each and every individual, so it's not
all going to be at once. And if you've notice,
some have been in New York, some have been in Texas,
some have filed in California. Because they're looking at the
different legal options.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Now, what do you say, looking at the other side
of the whatabouts and those who are crying foul about
another powerful man being targeted and taken down, what do
you say about the fact that most of these are
civil suits seeking financial restitution versus criminal charges.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
In most cases, and I have to generalize, in most
cases the statute of limitations has expired. There have been
some law changes, like the Survivors Act in New York,
and it was one law in California which allowed like
a two year grace period at least on a civil
suit side to file these lawsuits. And unfortunately, if there
(26:10):
are no criminal options, if there's no criminal recourse, that
all you have is a civil recourse. I don't look
down on the alleged victims because they're filing a civil lawsuit.
Let me give you a perfect example. We're talking about
Ashley Parham in this particular suit. This situation shows that
(26:33):
she was treated at a hospital and had a rape
kit performed. During the subsequent investigation, Parham gave a statement
to the Walnut Creek Police and filed a report with
the Arenda Police Department. So there is a record, a
contemporaneous record of what happened and when it happened. That
(26:57):
is all the record that people can refer to.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It's not like she said, well, she just made this
up or she just decided to come forward. Now, no, no, no, no, no,
that's not true. That is absolutely not true. That may
not be the case for everyone who's accusing him, but
in this instance, oh no, their police reports to back
up what she said. Now, she didn't mention Sean Combs's
name in those suits, but it's enough for investigators to
(27:25):
go on. It's enough for them to corroborate what she
has said with what she did years ago, back in
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
They're gonna be wait, are we rolling tape? Are we
rolling tape?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I just want to make sure that we're getting this
one on tape. This is Wednesday, Wednesday. What's the date?
Wednesday the sixteenth, Is that right?
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Okay, on Wednesday, the sixteenth, mister mo Kelly is again
going on record and saying that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
There will be other Diddy accusers plural by dextek.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I wish I could like give some odds on this
because I could make some people some money.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
They're going to be other accusers. They're going twala, you
want to take that bet? You're gonna think that. No, no, no,
that's a fool's bet.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Mark, what side do you want to want to bet?
Four or against me? The floodgates are open. We wouldn't
make very much money.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Okay, Stephan, you're my true believer, right, yeah, absolutely, Okay, they're.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Going to be more, and they're gonna be more. I
would say horrible accounts.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Why because usually, and I'm not gonna say ditty specifically,
but usually, when you're talking about these pathological behaviors, they've
been going on for decades, decades, So you're gonna find
people in each and every decade who allegedly been victimized.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
We talked about this with Bill cost Me.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
People want to say, oh my gosh, they're coming from
the nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies, and you find that, Wow,
this has been going on for actually thirty forty fifty years.
Diddy's not that old, but you'll find that this behavior
allegedly has been ongoing for the past thirty plus years.
All I can say is, none of this is new.
(29:16):
If you knew anything about what was going on in
the industry at that time, and I do. I was
there in a sense of we knew what people were
allegedly doing, and we didn't say anything as best we
could because we didn't want to get killed.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Fair enough, you know, I want to live.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Marcel, who's one of my friends who worked at Interscope
with me, who's here doing.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Photos for the show. He's laughing because he knows I'm
telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
He knows I'm telling the truth because it was a
dangerous time, and you're just now getting a sense of
how dangerous it was because people were coming forward. And
this woman is allegend that she was raped for making
a remark about Ditty having something to do with Tupac's murder.
And then if any of this this is true, she
was set up and raked with a physical object. Now
(30:05):
what do you think they would have done to me?
I'm not trying to be funny. That's how serious.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
All this is. And there will be more victims. I
told you before and I'm telling you again.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Let's talk about Weimo and how a former Twitter engineer
got a way Moo robot taxi to give her a
six and a half hour ride around San Francisco because
the waymo's are just too stupid. They don't know how
to actually do anything. Six and a half hours. No, no, no,
(30:41):
six and a half hours. Sophia Tung, a former Twitter
software engineer, said that Weimo had given her a promo
code for a free ride after the engineer set up
in live stream that pointed to a Waimo depot, you
know where they had all those Weymo cars honking their
horns at one another. So for the inconvenience, they gave
her a free ride coupon. What she did was then, okay,
(31:07):
well I got your number, I'm going to gain the system.
She got in a Weimo with the free ride, and
she decided before she got to her original stop, she
would keep changing that final destination. She get let's say
nine tenths of the way there, and she get and
then she would decide let me change to another location
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on the other side of the city. And you know,
in San Francisco, it takes forever to get from one
side to the other. And she was crisscrossing the city,
and in fact, she picked up friends along the way,
knowing that the Weimo won't know that it's picking up
a new rider if you don't open the door. So
she had friends climb in the window. She had friends,
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and she was taken all around the city. And she
was originally trying to stay in the Weimo for twelve
hours and only lasted six and a half hours. She
modified her diet, making sure that she went to the
bathroom and everything early in the morning to make sure
that she could stay in the car as long as
she could. The takeaway is the car is dumb.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
No, no, no. The takeaway is people in San Francisco
are crooked. This is the same city that tried to
shut down Weaimo with their felonious grandmother getting run over story.
Now I don't even believe that to be true. This
woman used her wicked Twitter smarts or wherever it was
(32:35):
she was at, which is already felonious.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
By he said, well, did you see how it was
that Twitter at Twitter.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Okay, oh, Grail, we're taking the word of someone who
worked at Twitter. At X said Twitter didn't say X.
That's okay, what premo whatever whatever. She was probably xed
out of there because of her hate for autonomous vehicles.
And this is yet another attack against progress. Do you
not see how this war game the system only to
(33:02):
be filthy? She planning on being in the sea for
twelve hours? What kind of filth bag is she that
she would have her friends climb through the window like
some sneak over this.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Oh, it highlights the inability of the car number one,
and it also highlights the lack of supervision and oversight
of the car where it could be misused in this way.
You would think that there would be some sort of
They got cameras around the car, but they can't see
what the car is doing. There's no one monitoring that
(33:33):
a car is on the same ride for six and
a half hours.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
You don't see a problem with that? Oh? What I mean?
Are you defending way most pockets? I mean, what do
you doing? No, I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I'm trying to highlight the fact that there are so
many gaps in this system. People are only now realizing
the limitations because more and more people are using it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
And look, it's almost like you're.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Bringing in a black hat excuse me, a white hat
hacker to show you you the holes in your system.
Their holes in a system, and it's dangerous. They need
to be off. There's someone that died dangerous, someone went.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Cold. That's right, just like the joy writing is how
you got those street takeovers? Hey, hey, s many.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
And who forgot the days of drag racing in the streets.
I don't want to hear you talking about because you
are talking about something that is immaterial to our conversation
about the advancement of a self driving autonomous vehicles.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
This is yet someone else who.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Actually I should be thanking this trash bag for taking
advantage of Waymo in the way that she did. Look
because about because okay, this tech expert. How about that
that's tech who only helped waymost caused by saying aha,
(34:56):
this is something that we now way more have to
take advantage of fixing the problem.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
This is this is not a bad thing, is actually
a good thing. Thank you?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Uh oh almost cursed that, Yes you did, thank you you.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Father? Why wow?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I heard the wow you brought her family in K
nine of Oh my goodness, are you trying to call
her a chinchilla?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
How do you say it?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
You don't want to say it to you don't it's
too rich. How about that way Moo is a menace.
It's a danger and a menace, and they must be stopped.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
This woman was actually treated with.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Kindness, This was actually offered the opportunity to make to
make good for this, this this hiccup in San Francisco
with all the beeping, when must say you know what,
we are sorry, ma'am, we will take care of you.
Here a free ride on us wherever you want to go.
(36:05):
And what did she do? Just like they do in
San Francisco. Let me take what's from with San Francisco
is a beautiful city. They are against progress, they are
against Waymo, and they are against progress. That's why people
in the movie out of San Francisco. Is Waymo paying
you in crypto or in hard cash?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Which is it? Don't appreciate that. I don't appreciate that
he's on the take. He is on the take at all.
This is not right.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I am literally speaking up for the advancement of technology.
And you know what even though people want to cast
the side eye at us at at at Musk and
his optimist bot, saying it was puppeted this, that and
the other. Look, at least the man is trying to
advance technology, be it through his rocket being grabbed or
(36:54):
his you know.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Is that like a metaphor?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Wait is there?
Speaker 4 (37:02):
We could see the running totals as they add up
and what you're making from all this.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Let's turn around and check the tope board, ye shall we? Yeah,
just like Jerry Lewis cod Man, Oh gosh, okay. K
if I am six forty. We're live everywhere in the
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