November 14, 2024 • 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Special Guest Host Chris Merrill filling in ‘Later, for Mo’Kelly’ with a look at the “Trumptastic” Cabinet picks from John Ratcliffe, Steve Witkoff and Mike Huckabee to Tulsi Gabbard, Matt Gaetz and MORE…PLUS – Thoughts on the impact of President-elect Trump’s vow to institute mass deportations on undocumented immigrants AND the reason California’s Prop 6 failed - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's Chris Maryland for mo.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
KFI AM six forty more stimulating talk and listen anytime
on demand on the iHeartRadio. A pleasure being with you
as always, and it's nice being here on the on
a weeknight. That's good. Normally catch me on the weekends
and I love it and it's a blast. And so
I like the idea of being able to come in
hang out with Foosh and uh Twala love Tala Tawalas
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send me messages this morning says I got I got you.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Man, I got you. This is great.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You guys are the best. Love it. So here's what
happened this morning. First of all, Twalla sent me a
message and he said, I don't like what you're doing.
I've already set the show up. Don't touch it. And
I said, okay, you got it, and I appreciate that
you just you just come straight with me right from
the beginning. So then I see, I'm taking a look
this this is this morning okay. So it's live updates
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on the Trump transition and it talks about Trump selections. Now,
when we were putting the show together this morning and
or starting to put it together, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Pulling some stories.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It looked like the weirdest thing Trump had done was
that he took a Fox News host and made them
the secretary of Defense. And granted, he's a veteran, and
he's a decorated veteran, and he's I don't know, well
opinionated or whatever. But you thought, oh, here we go.
This is the Trump administration. This is what we remember.
It is a fire hose of chaos. But the thing
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about a fire hose is you can't shut it off.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So as we were.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Talking about the we were thinking about this, thinking through
the stories. Today, Pete de Hogsith is now well proposed
to be the Defense secretary. Again, we're talking about a
Fox News host who, to my knowledge, doesn't have any
experience running any departments of any defenses. Again, veteran, decorated,
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had worked his way up in the ranks. There don't
know if that translates into being the secretary of Defense
in the same way that and I love sports analogies
and I was asking Fousch about sports analogies and he
made some really great recommendations to me earlier and I said, push,
I need an athlete who was a great athlete but
couldn't transition into being a general manager or a coach,
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and Fousch just started firing him off. He says, well,
there's Isaiah Thomas from the Detroit Pistons, who was not
a very good basketball coach. I went, yeah, that's a
deep cut there, and he said, well you got John Elway.
John Elway was an amazing quarterback and as a general
manager he was kind of okay. I mean, they did
bring a Super Bowl to Denver company, you know, they
Peyton Manning and a super Bowl, so that's he said, yeah,
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always a good one.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And he said I got the best one. I said,
what is it, Foush And.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Fush said, you remember when Wayne Gretzky became the coach
of the Arizona Coyotes the Phoenix Coyotes or whatever they
were at the ten And I went, that's it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
That's the one. Here.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You had the greatest hockey player of all time, but
they put him in charge and he was terrible.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
He's just terrible.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
He didn't know how to translate what he could do
into strategies for the rest of the team.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
He was just not a great head coach. He was
just there.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
No may say the team wasn't good, there was no ownership,
there was all kinds of a mess with that situation.
But kudos to Fusho's a massive sports fan, for being
able to come up with so many great examples right
off the top of his head.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I really appreciated that. So when we talk.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
About Pete Hogswyth being, you know, a military guy, a
veteran and pretty well decorated, does that mean he can
translate into being the Defense secretary?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Not sure? But again, as I said, it's Trump.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So Trump is a fire hose of chaos, and a
fire hose can't be shut off. So this morning we
were thinking about we just named somebody from Fox to
a cabinet position. Can it get any crazier? And then
we got today's news and that was the attorney general.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
This is.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Look, it's Gallows humor. At this point, I'm just laughing
on my way to the rope. It is just something else.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
This week, Trump has quickly been building his team. In
this afternoon, in a surprise move, announced he's nominating Florida
Representative Matt Gates as Attorney general.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Outstanding, Oh my gosh, We just nominated Beavis to be
the Attorney General, a guy who I'm pretty sure has
intimate knowledge with the Department.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Of Justice, which means Gates would head the same executive
department that spent years investigating the Florida Congressman.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yep, that's it. Gates is still under.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Investigation by the House Ethics Committee for sexual misconduct allegations.
The congressman has repeatedly denied.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yep, that's the one outstanding.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I can't wait to put Marjorie Taylor Green in charge
of Israeli relations. That is going to be what's that? Oh,
it's iHeart Huckaby is now going to be in charge
of that, all right? iHeart Huckabee will and will will
head up peace in the Middle East. Not Marjorie Taylor Green.
I thought she would know all the ins and outs
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of that. She's got the ends on who's got the
space lasers.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
In another move that could get some pushback, former Representative
and former Democrat Tulsea Gabbard has been selected as the
Director of National Intelligence.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
See that's like a moderate pick. I don't hate that.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
The Capital Senate Republicans elected a new majority leader. South
Dakota Senator John Thum, who will take over the role
held by Mitch McConnell for the last seventeen years.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
It's a new day in the United States Senate, and
it's a new day in America.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Senator Thune already asked about confirming President elect Trump's picks.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
We'll make sure that the president and his team had
the tools and support that they need to enforce border
security laws and to remove the violent criminals who are
wreaking havoc in every one of our.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
States, unless we've already added them to the cabinet, and
then we're going to have to wait a little bit.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Democrats still reeling from last week's sweeping laws, trying to
define their role as the minority in the Senate and
House as the Trump administration takes form.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Recalibrating and re energizing our party in the coming weeks
is the most important thing we can do, is elected leaders.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Oh that's it. There you go, recalibrate. Hold on, what
is the most important thing elected leaders can do? Oh,
this drives me crazy.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Recalibrating and re energizing our party in the coming weeks
is the most important thing we can do, is elected leaders.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
All right? Remember that quote? All right. Remember that quote, because.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
There's going to come a time that we're going to say, uh, why.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Didn't you stop this?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
And the reason that it wasn't stopped is because they.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Were busy doing the most important thing.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Recalibrating and re energizing our party in the coming weeks
is the most important thing we can do as elected leaders.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
There you go, there, you go, ah, right, what is uh?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Let me see what else have we got here?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
You want to let me see reaction Matt Gates being named.
I got Republican reaction in this. Well, not where is it? No,
I swear I've got it. What do you think I
don't prep I do well. I tried, and then Kwalla
told me, don't touch it. You'll screw it up. This
is House Republicans on their colleague getting the nod for
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attorney general.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
It comes to the selection of Representative Gates. I just
think it's silly.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I believe that the President is probably rewarding him for
being such a loyal soldier to the president.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
But the President is smart enough and his team is smart.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Enough to know that mister Gates will never get confirmed
by the Senate whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And so this is just.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Wanting to be a very long period of time for him,
that he's going to get excoriated.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
By members of the Senate on both sides of the
aisle because he's never been a team player and he's
never helped out.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
This confidence prope is dropped.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
But ultimately, Matt Gates being picked by President Trump, I
think is a strong statement that the weaponization of government,
you know, and the Biden administration using government against their
political enemies, as coming to an end.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
All right, So you're getting a different perspectives here.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
That party's over and we're going to clean up the
mess over at the Department of Justice. And you know,
Matt Gates surely is going to be focused on making
sure that agencies like the Department Justice work for the
American people, not against their political opponents. And that had
been going on for too long.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, okay, just again, let's remember this one too. The
new Department of Justice is going to do They're going
to stop just chasing after political opponents. This is from
the same person who said we have to flesh out
the enemy within. Just get ready, I can't wait.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
We have a lot of talented members in the House,
and you know we've asked the President. This morning, we
met with President Trump. And please no more House members
after Matt Gates.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Because otherwise we'll lose the majority, you.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Know, but at least de fon it going the un
is a great pick. That's going to be a really
important move for our position in the world.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
To be all right, I'm bored to Fulllet so there
you go. There's your update on what's going on in DC. Meanwhile,
the concern is over some of what you just heard there.
The concern is when we're trying to quote unquote enforce
the the President Trump's President elect Trump's border policies, what
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does that mean to people who are actually going to
be offended. I'm not talking about Milton in Ohio. I'm
talking about people who are here in the border states.
It could get it could get nasty.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
That is next.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
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Speaker 3 (09:59):
Chris Mary and from O'Kelly. Listen any time on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Pleasure being with you this evening
watching what's going on is a number of very blue
states are scrambling ahead of the Trump administration. And one
of the big concerns that people have, especially in California,
the bluest of the border states, is what's going to
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happen when it comes to his mass deportation plans. And
I think that's fair. What's going to happen to people
who want to enter at ports of entry, for instance,
and want asylum for legitimate reasons.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
What's going to happen there.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
One of the biggest problems that I think that we've
faced here in the last well four years is the
use of the phrase open borders. And I know for
many of you you think that the border is wide open,
But the truth is the border is not wide open.
Now there may be more avenue to getting into the
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United States, there may be the asylum claims, and the
process for claiming asylum and then being released into the
United States maybe different than in the past, but there
is no open border. If there were an open border,
there would be no need to pay for a border patrol, right,
But the truth is it's not an open border. So
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what's happened here is we've had the politicians that keep
beating a phrase in your head open border policy, open
border policy, open border policy, and they go, I don't
like Biden's open border policy.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Well, our open border policy.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Is a little bit like the boss's open door policy.
My door is always open. You've probably heard that before.
My door is always open unless it isn't. And usually
the boss that says my door is always open is
the boss that you don't want to go talk to
unless you.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Really have to. Right, So is it really open? No?
I bring this up.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Not because I want to argue or litigate the last
four years of border policy. Don't care. It's behind us,
doesn't matter. I'm not even trying to litigate the next
four years of border policy. Don't care. I'm not gonna
change your mind. You're not gonna change my mind, and
neither one of us is gonna change Trump's mind. Right, Okay,
I bring this up is I want you to notice
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what happens when we start using these phrases consistently and
when they start being used in media. So New York
Post has a headline illegal, Yes, illegal migrants rush to
cross border before Trump takes office and institutes crackdown.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That's the headline from the New York Post. Right, what
does that mean?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Dozens of illegal border crossers, mostly Central and South American migrants,
along with two others from Africa, showed up in the
US soaked after wading through the Rio Grande River. Now,
if we had an open border policy, would they need
to wade through the Rio Grande or try to get
past the barbed wire that the Texas governors laid out
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in there?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
It says there were also more than a dozen unaccompanied children,
including two toddler siblings, whom agents wrapped together in a mylar.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Blanket to keep them warm. Okay, So the.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Reason I wanted to bring this up is once again
we are being led to believe. I'm going to call
it an inverse funnel that you've got. In fact, the
very first sentence of the New York Post publishes is
a large group of more than one hundred migrants scrambled
across the border as dawn broke on Eagle Pass, Texas,
just hours after former President Trump won the election, and
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it vowed to secure the borders and crack down on
an illegal immigration. All right, that's your first So what
we've got here is you've got a headline that makes
you believe that there is well, I'm going to use
another term that the politician's blown up and invasion happening.
And yet what it is is one hundred people. One
hundred people trying to get across the border is not
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any different than any other weekday morning in Eagle Pass.
I mean, there's a reason that they put the barbed
wire out in Eagle Pass, Texas. There's a reason that
when the candidate Trump went to Texas to tour the border,
he went to Eagle Pass and made for the best backdrop.
One Hundred people trying to cross an Eagle Pass is
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not unusual. So what they did is they took something
that was not unusual. They took one hundred people, and
then they blew it up to make it sound like
we have tens of thousands trying to rush across the border.
Illegal migrants rushed to cross border before Trump takes office
and institutes cracked down.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's a misleading headline.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It's not wrong because there were people trying to cross
the border illegally before Trump takes office. Because it's not
January yet, there will be hundreds more that try to
cross the border between now and January.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
There will be thousands more.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
There will be tens of thousands more trying to cross
the border between now and the end of January, just
like there.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Were last year.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
So just be careful critical thinking when we start reading
some of these things. As for California, the Blue Estate,
what are we doing, because California is very concerned that
Trump is going to do something horrible. Well, in our state,
we've got a governor who says we're not going to
take it.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
On the steps of Sanborg it's from a kickout Adino
city hall. Community activists holds signs with messages like migration
is natural, welcome people with dignity.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
We have the knowledge and the experience to know how
to defund our communities and how to defund each other.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
These immigrant justice groups feel like they have to defend themselves.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
We don't know what's coming.
Speaker 8 (15:48):
Our way against President elect Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
I will launch the largest deportation program in American history.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
Trump believes undocumented immigrants take jobs away from US city
sense and make the country more dangerous.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Man, oh man, oh boy.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I'm telling you we start seeing this stuff go on
if we start using, say the military to round people up.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But I know some of you think this is great.
Just wait, you just wait.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
You think they're gonna go into the slaughterhouses and start
rounding people up. They're gonna go out into the fields
and start rounding people up. You're gonna go to the
construction sites and start rounding people up. Watch what happens
to the cost of things. Just keep an eye on it,
because one of two things is gonna happen. Either we're
going to see an increase in inflation again because the
cost of products is gonna go way up because you've
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got employers that are suddenly not able to screw over
employees who would rather get screwed over in America than
have to go back where they came from. Or you're
not going to have the enforcement that he promised. There
really is no in between on this.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
According to the American Immigration Council, there are eleven million
undocumented immigrants in the United States. Deporting one million people
per year could take one thousand new courtrooms to process
and cost taxpayers and estimated eighty eight billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But there was no price that was too much to pay,
is what he said on the campaign trail. I get
a feeling there's gonna be some hardline immigration people that
are going to be very disappointed. I could be wrong.
I could be very wrong. But no price, there's no
price that's too high. Feels like not a great thing. Yep,
we'll find out. Meanwhile, in California, you took to the
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polls and you said, you know what we like.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
We like slavery. That is next.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
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I'm Chris Maryland from O Kelly. Pleasure being with you.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Remember you can listen to any time on demand the
iHeartRadio app. So we took the polls and we had
a chance. We were asked on the on the ballot.
You probably saw it, and it said do you want
to allow slavery in California? And we overwhelmingly said that
sounds great. One of the tricky things about ballot proposals,
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and I don't know that that's that this was confusing
or not, but sometimes ballot proposals can be confusing because
ballot proposals are generally worded in a way that the
to bring about change means a yes vote.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
However, that means.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
You would have to vote, and if you're voting for
a band, you would have to vote yes no ban right,
if you vote no, that keeps things the way they are,
which you would be voting no on a band, which
feels like a double negative. Is that weird? That's how
they go. So Prop six was like this, this is
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the anti slavery measure. So Prop six fails. People voted no,
meaning I don't want things to change. But if you
were to ask do you want slavery allowed in California,
most people would say no. Right, So that's where it
can be a little bit confusing. I'm not saying that
is the case here, all right. I think what happens
is Prop six. If you're unfamiliar, this is the one
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that allows for the prison system to put prisoners to
work for peanuts. I mean what, less than seventy four
cents an hour. No, literally, nuts, they're packaging nuts, they're
doing dishes, making license plates, a sanitizer. I didn't know
that was a prison job, and furniture for less than
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seventy four cents an hour. I don't think that the
prison system should be making furniture because that is direct
competition with the Amish, and that's not cool. So this
is set less than seventy four cents an hour. I'm
much to make the best furniture. Have you been to
an Amish furniture sale Mark? Have you ever seen Amish furniture?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
They wake up too early for me. I'm not down
with that. The Amish know how to furniture. They know it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I'm an Ikia guy. At least Ikea has the meatballs.
They do. But the Amish also makes some delicious picnic foods.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, they don't make you assemble your own furniture to
they No, it's good stuff. I'm telling you. They do it.
They do it well. So anyway, the idea here is
incarcerated people still have to make furniture and license plates
and all that kind of stuff for cheap. Now, why
would California say this is okay? Maybe because this is uh,
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this is a pretty unsympathetic election. Take a look at
some of the other stuff. For instance, we voted to
lower thresholds for felonies. We are largely we're in a
punitive frame of mind. Does that make sense. We're largely
saying I'm so frustrated with something right, And it could
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be smash and grab stories, it could be people feel
like criminal justice reform has gone too far. We could
be upset with Oregon drug laws, and we're gonna go, oh,
the world is going to hell in a handbasket, and
I need to gain control. And to gain control, how
do I do that? I Am going to vote to
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be more punitive. So we lower the threshold for felonies,
because we believe that people were going into Apple stores
and not stealing the phones worth more than one thousand dollars.
They were just stealing like seven phones worth six hundred
dollars apiece.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Nah. Nah.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
But we wanted to blame someone, and we went, you know,
we can blame we can blame the politicians and ourselves
for voting through the last measure that did raise the threshold.
I was doing a I was doing a story once.
I was doing some fill in work in Dallas at
a station there, and so I the smashing grabs were
in the news again, and somebody was saying, talk about
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California going to hell and how terrible everything is, and
there were of course, we have smashing grabs and it's
been a problem. Not gonna lie, smashing grabs are being
a problem. But what I was getting from callers was, well,
this is because California has made it legal. This is
what they say. This is like when people say that
there are open borders, There aren't open borders. California has
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legalized crime, No they haven't. They raised the threshold for
damages in order to qualify for a felony to a
thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
That's what we did. This is what I had to
tell people.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
And they said, right, and what you've done is you've
sent a message saying that we're not going to send
you to jail if you steal less than one thousand dollars.
And so I had to ask the people there in Texas.
They said, what is the threshold in Texas? They go,
I don't know, Okay, it's two thousand dollars in Texas. Well,
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I go, do we have the same smashing problems in Texas?
And they said no. I said, so.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Do we not have criminals in Texas?
Speaker 5 (23:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
We do, Okay, So what is the difference then? Are
the criminals in California just smarter than criminals in doubt
in Texas? Well, there's no answer to that. The truth
is we want to point at something. We don't want
to say.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Can can we just agree that when it comes to crime,
there's lots of different problems involved.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
There are lots of issues.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Some of it might have to do with gang mentalities,
some of it might have to do with hardships, might
have to do with the cost of living is so
high that people are just stealing stuff because it's easier
than working for what they have to have in order
to survive. There's lots of different reasons people steal things.
But I gotta tell you, I don't think a lot
of these criminals are running around with a calculator to
make sure that they don't commit a felony, but just
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a just a misdemeanor. I'm pretty sure that I've seen
prosecutors that could probably say, you smashed, you grab, We're
gonna count that as the felony part.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Even if the dollar amount wasn't high enough.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
You still vandalize goods or something of the sort that
were worth over one thousand dollars. If you're breaking display cases, boom,
you hit one thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Do it.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
But we said, let's be more punitive. Same thing when
it comes to this Prop six. The Prop six is
do we want to have sympathy for criminals who are
doing time.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
The answer is no. That's how people read it.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
They didn't read it as is it unjust to to
to punish someone by making them work? And we said,
I don't feel like it's unjust at all. In fact,
these people, if you don't, if you can't do the time,
don't do the crime, right, that's our mentality. And I
think we're feeling very punitive this cycle.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I do.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I just think we're feeling punitive. I think we're feeling
like the world is spinning. I think we're feeling like
we've had a lot of a loss of control. And
we don't want, for some reason, for prisoners to make
a lot of money when we're struggling to pay our
own bills, So why should they make more than seventy
four cents making sanitizer? Yeah, didn't know that was a
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prison thing. Know about license plates, but did you know
about sanitizer? I did you did? I knew about Santa.
I have a friend who was in prison for a
long time, and he did sanitizer. They did Santa, he did.
They put together hotel booking packages, like the actual booking
packages that you fill out and send out in the
mount and all that really.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
At one point, Eddie.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
Bauer where getting their car seat, their custom car seats,
the leather like shelf they were those made. Yeah, they
they made a lot of stuff in the prison.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
He was at. So just made in the USA, is
what it is? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (25:42):
Yeah, and just about seventy four seventy five cents an hour.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I didn't realize because isn't sanitizer almost nap home. I
know it's high alcohol content, right.
Speaker 9 (25:52):
Yeah, and but it's it's there are different wings where you,
you know, have to earn the opportunity to go do that.
It's not everyone just walking in and getting access to chemicals.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Now, that'd be great, yeah, I mean that'd almost be
worth it at that point. Oh yeah, toilet and oh
good stuff. I didn't know about the other I didn't
know about that. Huh yeah, isn't that something that's crazy?
And we're just like, no, that seems very fair. I'm
telling you, we're feeling punitive. A lot of things going
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on in this cycle that we're not paying real close
attention to. We're just we're giving some knee jerk votes
this time around. Speaking of where our votes go, knee
jerk votes, I gotta tell you. I'm not buying the
whole misogyny thing this time around. Let me explain to
you why those of you that are feeling like America
hates women, I'm not buying that. I'll tell you why
that is next. I'm Chris merrill In from Okelly KFI
AM six forty. We live everywhere on the iHeart Radio app.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Chris merril In from o Kelly KFI AM six forty. Ladies,
please please listen. I'm probably gonna stir some of you.
You're not gonna like to hear this. I don't think
that America rejected Kamala Harris because she's a woman. Now
I know, I know what's happening now. In fact, I
saw the headline did voters reject a female president.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Or just Kamala Harris?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
And there's a lot of speculation about this being a
misogynistic country and how terrible it is. And first of all,
I'm not ignorant to the fact that there are certainly
some misogynists out there who will say I will never
vote for Well, they're not just misogynes. There is also
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racists that are I will never vote for a black woman.
I will never vote for a woman. Whatever it is,
right is that I mean the numbers not zero. We
can say that. We can all agree on that, right. Yeah, However,
I gotta believe. And I'm not a big fan of
identity politics.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I don't really care for identity politics. But I do
understand some of the identity politics. I understand a woman
seeing Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris and saying I'm going
to vote for that. I'm I'm mill of the road,
or I don't like either of these candidates, I will
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vote for her because I'd like to see someone break.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
The glass ceiling. All right, I get that. I totally
understand that. That makes sense to me.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
In fact, I think there were more women that voted
for Harris because they wanted to see the glass ceiling
shattered than there were men.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Who refuse to vote for a woman.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
And again, let's be honest, there are women out there
that will not vote for a woman. I got a
buddy who's sending me He loves to screenshot his text
messages with his mother, which is a total betrayal and
probably he needs counseling for this, because I'm sure the
therapist has something to say about him screenshotting his mother's
text messages. But he was texting her and he was
talking about Harris, and his mother is she's an Ardent
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Trump supporter, which is fine. He was just trying to
egger on. But she said, you can't vote for a woman,
they're too emotional.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
This was his mother. I thought that was bizarre. I
thought it was weird. Man.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
So I don't think that the election was swayed because
you had a woman running for president. In fact, I
would even say that with people generally rejecting the Biden
administration or blaming the Biden administration for housing prices being up,
grocery prices are up, gas prices are not as high
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as they were in the past, but we sure would
like to see him lower. What's happening is Biden's getting
the blame. You've got good jobs reports, you've got inflation
coming down.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
We did not go into a recession. Yeah we had inflation.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Every country in the world had inflation in ours was
better than most, But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
We're still It was a painful time.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
The pandemic was painful and we're blaming Biden for it.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It's just what it is. And Harris is an extension
of that administration.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I think anybody coming out of that administration was going
to face the same problem. And I think that this
was a referendum on the Biden administration, and Harris got
she got wrapped up in that baggage. But I think
that the race actually would have been worse for the
Democrats had it off been a woman on that ticket.
I think that actually helped them this time around. Now
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we can't prove it. I'm just speculating here that there
were more people that voted for her to break the
glass ceiling than the word that voted against her.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Because she's a woman.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Now that said, there is some lunacy floating around on
the well, I've seen it on two different news networks. Now,
I saw it on CNN and then I happen to
see this on News Nation.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Stop doing this stuff, Stop saying dumb things.
Speaker 10 (30:57):
And I think that if your president, Joe Biden, there's
nothing left to run for, there's something left to really do,
Pardon your son, then resign and elevate Kamala Harris the
presidency and make one more mark in the history books
while you.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Canute whoa whoa.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Of course there's a delayed reaction because all of the
panel is on zoom, because that's normal. Now, we don't
actually have production quality. We just say everybody use your
cell phones.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
You think that's the first female president. I'm not saying
that's going to happen, But if I were Joe Biden,
that's exactly what I would do. Again, you have a
very short runway left of being relevant and of being
able to.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Make your mark in a historic way. Why not do
it that way? Oh I'm glad you asked.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
First of all, don't pardon your son because that is
going to hang over your legacy and it's going to
make the Democrats look like they are just as bad
as everything they've accused Trump of being right.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
So that's the first thing you don't want.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
You don't want to be in the do as I say,
not as I do game, So don't do that. Second,
when it comes to resigning so that Harris can get
the title of first female president, what an insult, What
an absolute insult that is to her.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
But it actually sets women back. It sets women back.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
And imagine if you are the next female who's on
the top of a ticket. Not only if you're the
female and you win and you're legitimately the first female
president ever elected to office, you would not get that title, right, So,
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all of a sudden you are the second female president.
The first female president is basically a footnote at that
point as part of a political stunt. And what happens
is you have set a standard that reinforces I'm gonna
sound like a drive a super with a coexistick around it. Now,
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you are going to reinforce the notion that we live
in a patriarchy that requires a man to help a
woman accomplish something.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, I said the patriarchy. God, dang it. Oh, I
know I sound a little bit poofo. But think about this.
What is it that?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
What is the what is the phrase the Great White Hope?
That's it, it's the great White hope?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Right?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
This notion that if you are a black man in America,
it takes a white man to help you accomplish something. No, No,
And there's a difference between advocacy and stepping in to
try I'll do it for you.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
No, don't do that. Don't do that. There's one thing
about being supportive.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
There's something else about saying I'll do it for you
so that you can take credit and it'll be because
of the help that I gave you that'll.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Make me a better person.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
No, all you're doing is you're taking away the agency
of the future generations of women. You're taking away the age,
and you're saying, well, the only way that a woman
could be a president is if a man allows it
and a man makes it happen, and you actually weaken
the image of future female politicians. It makes it harder
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for us to have the first female president in the
United States. So this notion of Biden should resign and
then Harris can be president. I mean, look, if the
guy has a stroke, that's one thing which we all
saw him at the debate. Let's not be on the
realm of possibility, but to do it intentionally as a stunt.
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It's not American, man, it's not American. A right, guys,
Can we stop talking about politics?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
We just did an hour on that. I don't like it.
Are you cool with that? Oh? Please, let's have more
than we can move on.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
We're good, all right, good, thank you got it all
out of my system.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
We met the quota. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
That's all I was trying to do. It's just trying
to hit the quota, is the right way to say it.
Do that, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
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KFI AM six forty more stimulating talk and listen anytime
on demand on the iHeartRadio. A pleasure being with you
as always, and it's nice being here on the on
a weeknight. That's good. Normally catch me on the weekends
and I love it and it's a blast. And so
I like the idea of being able to come in
hang out with Foosh and uh Twala love Tala Tawalas
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send me messages this morning says I got I got you.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Man, I got you. This is great.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You guys are the best. Love it. So here's what
happened this morning. First of all, Twalla sent me a
message and he said, I don't like what you're doing.
I've already set the show up. Don't touch it. And
I said, okay, you got it, and I appreciate that
you just you just come straight with me right from
the beginning. So then I see, I'm taking a look
this this is this morning okay. So it's live updates
(00:57):
on the Trump transition and it talks about Trump selections. Now,
when we were putting the show together this morning and
or starting to put it together, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Pulling some stories.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It looked like the weirdest thing Trump had done was
that he took a Fox News host and made them
the secretary of Defense. And granted, he's a veteran, and
he's a decorated veteran, and he's I don't know, well
opinionated or whatever. But you thought, oh, here we go.
This is the Trump administration. This is what we remember.
It is a fire hose of chaos. But the thing
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about a fire hose is you can't shut it off.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So as we were.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Talking about the we were thinking about this, thinking through
the stories. Today, Pete de Hogsith is now well proposed
to be the Defense secretary. Again, we're talking about a
Fox News host who, to my knowledge, doesn't have any
experience running any departments of any defenses. Again, veteran, decorated,
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had worked his way up in the ranks. There don't
know if that translates into being the secretary of Defense
in the same way that and I love sports analogies
and I was asking Fousch about sports analogies and he
made some really great recommendations to me earlier and I said, push,
I need an athlete who was a great athlete but
couldn't transition into being a general manager or a coach,
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and Fousch just started firing him off. He says, well,
there's Isaiah Thomas from the Detroit Pistons, who was not
a very good basketball coach. I went, yeah, that's a
deep cut there, and he said, well you got John Elway.
John Elway was an amazing quarterback and as a general
manager he was kind of okay. I mean, they did
bring a Super Bowl to Denver company, you know, they
Peyton Manning and a super Bowl, so that's he said, yeah,
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always a good one.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And he said I got the best one. I said,
what is it, Foush And.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Fush said, you remember when Wayne Gretzky became the coach
of the Arizona Coyotes the Phoenix Coyotes or whatever they
were at the ten And I went, that's it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
That's the one. Here.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You had the greatest hockey player of all time, but
they put him in charge and he was terrible.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
He's just terrible.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
He didn't know how to translate what he could do
into strategies for the rest of the team.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
He was just not a great head coach. He was
just there.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
No may say the team wasn't good, there was no ownership,
there was all kinds of a mess with that situation.
But kudos to Fusho's a massive sports fan, for being
able to come up with so many great examples right
off the top of his head.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I really appreciated that. So when we talk.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
About Pete Hogswyth being, you know, a military guy, a
veteran and pretty well decorated, does that mean he can
translate into being the Defense secretary?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Not sure? But again, as I said, it's Trump.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So Trump is a fire hose of chaos, and a
fire hose can't be shut off. So this morning we
were thinking about we just named somebody from Fox to
a cabinet position. Can it get any crazier? And then
we got today's news and that was the attorney general.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
This is.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Look, it's Gallows humor. At this point, I'm just laughing
on my way to the rope. It is just something else.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
This week, Trump has quickly been building his team. In
this afternoon, in a surprise move, announced he's nominating Florida
Representative Matt Gates as Attorney general.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Outstanding, Oh my gosh, We just nominated Beavis to be
the Attorney General, a guy who I'm pretty sure has
intimate knowledge with the Department.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Of Justice, which means Gates would head the same executive
department that spent years investigating the Florida Congressman.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yep, that's it. Gates is still under.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Investigation by the House Ethics Committee for sexual misconduct allegations.
The congressman has repeatedly denied.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yep, that's the one outstanding.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I can't wait to put Marjorie Taylor Green in charge
of Israeli relations. That is going to be what's that? Oh,
it's iHeart Huckaby is now going to be in charge
of that, all right? iHeart Huckabee will and will will
head up peace in the Middle East. Not Marjorie Taylor Green.
I thought she would know all the ins and outs
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of that. She's got the ends on who's got the
space lasers.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
In another move that could get some pushback, former Representative
and former Democrat Tulsea Gabbard has been selected as the
Director of National Intelligence.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
See that's like a moderate pick. I don't hate that.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
The Capital Senate Republicans elected a new majority leader. South
Dakota Senator John Thum, who will take over the role
held by Mitch McConnell for the last seventeen years.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
It's a new day in the United States Senate, and
it's a new day in America.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Senator Thune already asked about confirming President elect Trump's picks.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
We'll make sure that the president and his team had
the tools and support that they need to enforce border
security laws and to remove the violent criminals who are
wreaking havoc in every one of our.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
States, unless we've already added them to the cabinet, and
then we're going to have to wait a little bit.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Democrats still reeling from last week's sweeping laws, trying to
define their role as the minority in the Senate and
House as the Trump administration takes form.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Recalibrating and re energizing our party in the coming weeks
is the most important thing we can do, is elected leaders.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Oh that's it. There you go, recalibrate. Hold on, what
is the most important thing elected leaders can do? Oh,
this drives me crazy.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Recalibrating and re energizing our party in the coming weeks
is the most important thing we can do, is elected leaders.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
All right? Remember that quote? All right. Remember that quote, because.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
There's going to come a time that we're going to say, uh, why.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Didn't you stop this?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
And the reason that it wasn't stopped is because they.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Were busy doing the most important thing.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Recalibrating and re energizing our party in the coming weeks
is the most important thing we can do as elected leaders.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
There you go, there, you go, ah, right, what is uh?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Let me see what else have we got here?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
You want to let me see reaction Matt Gates being named.
I got Republican reaction in this. Well, not where is it? No,
I swear I've got it. What do you think I
don't prep I do well. I tried, and then Kwalla
told me, don't touch it. You'll screw it up. This
is House Republicans on their colleague getting the nod for
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attorney general.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
It comes to the selection of Representative Gates. I just
think it's silly.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I believe that the President is probably rewarding him for
being such a loyal soldier to the president.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
But the President is smart enough and his team is smart.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Enough to know that mister Gates will never get confirmed
by the Senate whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And so this is just.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Wanting to be a very long period of time for him,
that he's going to get excoriated.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
By members of the Senate on both sides of the
aisle because he's never been a team player and he's
never helped out.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
This confidence prope is dropped.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
But ultimately, Matt Gates being picked by President Trump, I
think is a strong statement that the weaponization of government,
you know, and the Biden administration using government against their
political enemies, as coming to an end.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
All right, So you're getting a different perspectives here.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
That party's over and we're going to clean up the
mess over at the Department of Justice. And you know,
Matt Gates surely is going to be focused on making
sure that agencies like the Department Justice work for the
American people, not against their political opponents. And that had
been going on for too long.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, okay, just again, let's remember this one too. The
new Department of Justice is going to do They're going
to stop just chasing after political opponents. This is from
the same person who said we have to flesh out
the enemy within. Just get ready, I can't wait.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
We have a lot of talented members in the House,
and you know we've asked the President. This morning, we
met with President Trump. And please no more House members
after Matt Gates.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Because otherwise we'll lose the majority, you.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Know, but at least de fon it going the un
is a great pick. That's going to be a really
important move for our position in the world.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
To be all right, I'm bored to Fulllet so there
you go. There's your update on what's going on in DC. Meanwhile,
the concern is over some of what you just heard there.
The concern is when we're trying to quote unquote enforce
the the President Trump's President elect Trump's border policies, what
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does that mean to people who are actually going to
be offended. I'm not talking about Milton in Ohio. I'm
talking about people who are here in the border states.
It could get it could get nasty.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
That is next.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
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Speaker 3 (09:59):
Chris Mary and from O'Kelly. Listen any time on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Pleasure being with you this evening
watching what's going on is a number of very blue
states are scrambling ahead of the Trump administration. And one
of the big concerns that people have, especially in California,
the bluest of the border states, is what's going to
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happen when it comes to his mass deportation plans. And
I think that's fair. What's going to happen to people
who want to enter at ports of entry, for instance,
and want asylum for legitimate reasons.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
What's going to happen there.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
One of the biggest problems that I think that we've
faced here in the last well four years is the
use of the phrase open borders. And I know for
many of you you think that the border is wide open,
But the truth is the border is not wide open.
Now there may be more avenue to getting into the
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United States, there may be the asylum claims, and the
process for claiming asylum and then being released into the
United States maybe different than in the past, but there
is no open border. If there were an open border,
there would be no need to pay for a border patrol, right,
But the truth is it's not an open border. So
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what's happened here is we've had the politicians that keep
beating a phrase in your head open border policy, open
border policy, open border policy, and they go, I don't
like Biden's open border policy.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Well, our open border policy.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Is a little bit like the boss's open door policy.
My door is always open. You've probably heard that before.
My door is always open unless it isn't. And usually
the boss that says my door is always open is
the boss that you don't want to go talk to
unless you.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Really have to. Right, So is it really open? No?
I bring this up.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Not because I want to argue or litigate the last
four years of border policy. Don't care. It's behind us,
doesn't matter. I'm not even trying to litigate the next
four years of border policy. Don't care. I'm not gonna
change your mind. You're not gonna change my mind, and
neither one of us is gonna change Trump's mind. Right, Okay,
I bring this up is I want you to notice
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what happens when we start using these phrases consistently and
when they start being used in media. So New York
Post has a headline illegal, Yes, illegal migrants rush to
cross border before Trump takes office and institutes crackdown.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That's the headline from the New York Post. Right, what
does that mean?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Dozens of illegal border crossers, mostly Central and South American migrants,
along with two others from Africa, showed up in the
US soaked after wading through the Rio Grande River. Now,
if we had an open border policy, would they need
to wade through the Rio Grande or try to get
past the barbed wire that the Texas governors laid out
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in there?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
It says there were also more than a dozen unaccompanied children,
including two toddler siblings, whom agents wrapped together in a mylar.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Blanket to keep them warm. Okay, So the.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Reason I wanted to bring this up is once again
we are being led to believe. I'm going to call
it an inverse funnel that you've got. In fact, the
very first sentence of the New York Post publishes is
a large group of more than one hundred migrants scrambled
across the border as dawn broke on Eagle Pass, Texas,
just hours after former President Trump won the election, and
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it vowed to secure the borders and crack down on
an illegal immigration. All right, that's your first So what
we've got here is you've got a headline that makes
you believe that there is well, I'm going to use
another term that the politician's blown up and invasion happening.
And yet what it is is one hundred people. One
hundred people trying to get across the border is not
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any different than any other weekday morning in Eagle Pass.
I mean, there's a reason that they put the barbed
wire out in Eagle Pass, Texas. There's a reason that
when the candidate Trump went to Texas to tour the border,
he went to Eagle Pass and made for the best backdrop.
One Hundred people trying to cross an Eagle Pass is
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not unusual. So what they did is they took something
that was not unusual. They took one hundred people, and
then they blew it up to make it sound like
we have tens of thousands trying to rush across the border.
Illegal migrants rushed to cross border before Trump takes office
and institutes cracked down.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's a misleading headline.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It's not wrong because there were people trying to cross
the border illegally before Trump takes office. Because it's not
January yet, there will be hundreds more that try to
cross the border between now and January.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
There will be thousands more.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
There will be tens of thousands more trying to cross
the border between now and the end of January, just
like there.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Were last year.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
So just be careful critical thinking when we start reading
some of these things. As for California, the Blue Estate,
what are we doing, because California is very concerned that
Trump is going to do something horrible. Well, in our state,
we've got a governor who says we're not going to
take it.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
On the steps of Sanborg it's from a kickout Adino
city hall. Community activists holds signs with messages like migration
is natural, welcome people with dignity.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
We have the knowledge and the experience to know how
to defund our communities and how to defund each other.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
These immigrant justice groups feel like they have to defend themselves.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
We don't know what's coming.
Speaker 8 (15:48):
Our way against President elect Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
I will launch the largest deportation program in American history.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
Trump believes undocumented immigrants take jobs away from US city
sense and make the country more dangerous.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Man, oh man, oh boy.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I'm telling you we start seeing this stuff go on
if we start using, say the military to round people up.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But I know some of you think this is great.
Just wait, you just wait.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
You think they're gonna go into the slaughterhouses and start
rounding people up. They're gonna go out into the fields
and start rounding people up. You're gonna go to the
construction sites and start rounding people up. Watch what happens
to the cost of things. Just keep an eye on it,
because one of two things is gonna happen. Either we're
going to see an increase in inflation again because the
cost of products is gonna go way up because you've
(16:39):
got employers that are suddenly not able to screw over
employees who would rather get screwed over in America than
have to go back where they came from. Or you're
not going to have the enforcement that he promised. There
really is no in between on this.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
According to the American Immigration Council, there are eleven million
undocumented immigrants in the United States. Deporting one million people
per year could take one thousand new courtrooms to process
and cost taxpayers and estimated eighty eight billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But there was no price that was too much to pay,
is what he said on the campaign trail. I get
a feeling there's gonna be some hardline immigration people that
are going to be very disappointed. I could be wrong.
I could be very wrong. But no price, there's no
price that's too high. Feels like not a great thing. Yep,
we'll find out. Meanwhile, in California, you took to the
(17:34):
polls and you said, you know what we like.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
We like slavery. That is next.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty good even thing.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I'm Chris Maryland from O Kelly. Pleasure being with you.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Remember you can listen to any time on demand the
iHeartRadio app. So we took the polls and we had
a chance. We were asked on the on the ballot.
You probably saw it, and it said do you want
to allow slavery in California? And we overwhelmingly said that
sounds great. One of the tricky things about ballot proposals,
(18:12):
and I don't know that that's that this was confusing
or not, but sometimes ballot proposals can be confusing because
ballot proposals are generally worded in a way that the
to bring about change means a yes vote.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
However, that means.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
You would have to vote, and if you're voting for
a band, you would have to vote yes no ban right,
if you vote no, that keeps things the way they are,
which you would be voting no on a band, which
feels like a double negative. Is that weird? That's how
they go. So Prop six was like this, this is
(18:52):
the anti slavery measure. So Prop six fails. People voted no,
meaning I don't want things to change. But if you
were to ask do you want slavery allowed in California,
most people would say no. Right, So that's where it
can be a little bit confusing. I'm not saying that
is the case here, all right. I think what happens
is Prop six. If you're unfamiliar, this is the one
(19:13):
that allows for the prison system to put prisoners to
work for peanuts. I mean what, less than seventy four
cents an hour. No, literally, nuts, they're packaging nuts, they're
doing dishes, making license plates, a sanitizer. I didn't know
that was a prison job, and furniture for less than
(19:34):
seventy four cents an hour. I don't think that the
prison system should be making furniture because that is direct
competition with the Amish, and that's not cool. So this
is set less than seventy four cents an hour. I'm
much to make the best furniture. Have you been to
an Amish furniture sale Mark? Have you ever seen Amish furniture?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
They wake up too early for me. I'm not down
with that. The Amish know how to furniture. They know it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I'm an Ikia guy. At least Ikea has the meatballs.
They do. But the Amish also makes some delicious picnic foods.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, they don't make you assemble your own furniture to
they No, it's good stuff. I'm telling you. They do it.
They do it well. So anyway, the idea here is
incarcerated people still have to make furniture and license plates
and all that kind of stuff for cheap. Now, why
would California say this is okay? Maybe because this is uh,
(20:31):
this is a pretty unsympathetic election. Take a look at
some of the other stuff. For instance, we voted to
lower thresholds for felonies. We are largely we're in a
punitive frame of mind. Does that make sense. We're largely
saying I'm so frustrated with something right, And it could
(20:55):
be smash and grab stories, it could be people feel
like criminal justice reform has gone too far. We could
be upset with Oregon drug laws, and we're gonna go, oh,
the world is going to hell in a handbasket, and
I need to gain control. And to gain control, how
do I do that? I Am going to vote to
(21:16):
be more punitive. So we lower the threshold for felonies,
because we believe that people were going into Apple stores
and not stealing the phones worth more than one thousand dollars.
They were just stealing like seven phones worth six hundred
dollars apiece.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Nah. Nah.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
But we wanted to blame someone, and we went, you know,
we can blame we can blame the politicians and ourselves
for voting through the last measure that did raise the threshold.
I was doing a I was doing a story once.
I was doing some fill in work in Dallas at
a station there, and so I the smashing grabs were
in the news again, and somebody was saying, talk about
(22:03):
California going to hell and how terrible everything is, and
there were of course, we have smashing grabs and it's
been a problem. Not gonna lie, smashing grabs are being
a problem. But what I was getting from callers was, well,
this is because California has made it legal. This is
what they say. This is like when people say that
there are open borders, There aren't open borders. California has
(22:23):
legalized crime, No they haven't. They raised the threshold for
damages in order to qualify for a felony to a
thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
That's what we did. This is what I had to
tell people.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
And they said, right, and what you've done is you've
sent a message saying that we're not going to send
you to jail if you steal less than one thousand dollars.
And so I had to ask the people there in Texas.
They said, what is the threshold in Texas? They go,
I don't know, Okay, it's two thousand dollars in Texas. Well,
(22:58):
I go, do we have the same smashing problems in Texas?
And they said no. I said, so.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Do we not have criminals in Texas?
Speaker 5 (23:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
We do, Okay, So what is the difference then? Are
the criminals in California just smarter than criminals in doubt
in Texas? Well, there's no answer to that. The truth
is we want to point at something. We don't want
to say.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Can can we just agree that when it comes to crime,
there's lots of different problems involved.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
There are lots of issues.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Some of it might have to do with gang mentalities,
some of it might have to do with hardships, might
have to do with the cost of living is so
high that people are just stealing stuff because it's easier
than working for what they have to have in order
to survive. There's lots of different reasons people steal things.
But I gotta tell you, I don't think a lot
of these criminals are running around with a calculator to
make sure that they don't commit a felony, but just
(23:54):
a just a misdemeanor. I'm pretty sure that I've seen
prosecutors that could probably say, you smashed, you grab, We're
gonna count that as the felony part.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Even if the dollar amount wasn't high enough.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
You still vandalize goods or something of the sort that
were worth over one thousand dollars. If you're breaking display cases, boom,
you hit one thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Do it.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
But we said, let's be more punitive. Same thing when
it comes to this Prop six. The Prop six is
do we want to have sympathy for criminals who are
doing time.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
The answer is no. That's how people read it.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
They didn't read it as is it unjust to to
to punish someone by making them work? And we said,
I don't feel like it's unjust at all. In fact,
these people, if you don't, if you can't do the time,
don't do the crime, right, that's our mentality. And I
think we're feeling very punitive this cycle.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I do.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I just think we're feeling punitive. I think we're feeling
like the world is spinning. I think we're feeling like
we've had a lot of a loss of control. And
we don't want, for some reason, for prisoners to make
a lot of money when we're struggling to pay our
own bills, So why should they make more than seventy
four cents making sanitizer? Yeah, didn't know that was a
(25:07):
prison thing. Know about license plates, but did you know
about sanitizer? I did you did? I knew about Santa.
I have a friend who was in prison for a
long time, and he did sanitizer. They did Santa, he did.
They put together hotel booking packages, like the actual booking
packages that you fill out and send out in the
mount and all that really.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
At one point, Eddie.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
Bauer where getting their car seat, their custom car seats,
the leather like shelf they were those made. Yeah, they
they made a lot of stuff in the prison.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
He was at. So just made in the USA, is
what it is? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (25:42):
Yeah, and just about seventy four seventy five cents an hour.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I didn't realize because isn't sanitizer almost nap home. I
know it's high alcohol content, right.
Speaker 9 (25:52):
Yeah, and but it's it's there are different wings where you,
you know, have to earn the opportunity to go do that.
It's not everyone just walking in and getting access to chemicals.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Now, that'd be great, yeah, I mean that'd almost be
worth it at that point. Oh yeah, toilet and oh
good stuff. I didn't know about the other I didn't
know about that. Huh yeah, isn't that something that's crazy?
And we're just like, no, that seems very fair. I'm
telling you, we're feeling punitive. A lot of things going
(26:24):
on in this cycle that we're not paying real close
attention to. We're just we're giving some knee jerk votes
this time around. Speaking of where our votes go, knee
jerk votes, I gotta tell you. I'm not buying the
whole misogyny thing this time around. Let me explain to
you why those of you that are feeling like America
hates women, I'm not buying that. I'll tell you why
that is next. I'm Chris merrill In from Okelly KFI
AM six forty. We live everywhere on the iHeart Radio app.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Chris merril In from o Kelly KFI AM six forty. Ladies,
please please listen. I'm probably gonna stir some of you.
You're not gonna like to hear this. I don't think
that America rejected Kamala Harris because she's a woman. Now
I know, I know what's happening now. In fact, I
saw the headline did voters reject a female president.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Or just Kamala Harris?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
And there's a lot of speculation about this being a
misogynistic country and how terrible it is. And first of all,
I'm not ignorant to the fact that there are certainly
some misogynists out there who will say I will never
vote for Well, they're not just misogynes. There is also
(27:38):
racists that are I will never vote for a black woman.
I will never vote for a woman. Whatever it is,
right is that I mean the numbers not zero. We
can say that. We can all agree on that, right. Yeah, However,
I gotta believe. And I'm not a big fan of
identity politics.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I don't really care for identity politics. But I do
understand some of the identity politics. I understand a woman
seeing Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris and saying I'm going
to vote for that. I'm I'm mill of the road,
or I don't like either of these candidates, I will
(28:20):
vote for her because I'd like to see someone break.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
The glass ceiling. All right, I get that. I totally
understand that. That makes sense to me.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
In fact, I think there were more women that voted
for Harris because they wanted to see the glass ceiling
shattered than there were men.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Who refuse to vote for a woman.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
And again, let's be honest, there are women out there
that will not vote for a woman. I got a
buddy who's sending me He loves to screenshot his text
messages with his mother, which is a total betrayal and
probably he needs counseling for this, because I'm sure the
therapist has something to say about him screenshotting his mother's
text messages. But he was texting her and he was
talking about Harris, and his mother is she's an Ardent
(29:05):
Trump supporter, which is fine. He was just trying to
egger on. But she said, you can't vote for a woman,
they're too emotional.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
This was his mother. I thought that was bizarre. I
thought it was weird. Man.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
So I don't think that the election was swayed because
you had a woman running for president. In fact, I
would even say that with people generally rejecting the Biden
administration or blaming the Biden administration for housing prices being up,
grocery prices are up, gas prices are not as high
(29:41):
as they were in the past, but we sure would
like to see him lower. What's happening is Biden's getting
the blame. You've got good jobs reports, you've got inflation
coming down.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
We did not go into a recession. Yeah we had inflation.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Every country in the world had inflation in ours was
better than most, But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
We're still It was a painful time.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
The pandemic was painful and we're blaming Biden for it.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It's just what it is. And Harris is an extension
of that administration.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I think anybody coming out of that administration was going
to face the same problem. And I think that this
was a referendum on the Biden administration, and Harris got
she got wrapped up in that baggage. But I think
that the race actually would have been worse for the
Democrats had it off been a woman on that ticket.
I think that actually helped them this time around. Now
(30:32):
we can't prove it. I'm just speculating here that there
were more people that voted for her to break the
glass ceiling than the word that voted against her.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Because she's a woman.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Now that said, there is some lunacy floating around on
the well, I've seen it on two different news networks. Now,
I saw it on CNN and then I happen to
see this on News Nation.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Stop doing this stuff, Stop saying dumb things.
Speaker 10 (30:57):
And I think that if your president, Joe Biden, there's
nothing left to run for, there's something left to really do,
Pardon your son, then resign and elevate Kamala Harris the
presidency and make one more mark in the history books
while you.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Canute whoa whoa.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Of course there's a delayed reaction because all of the
panel is on zoom, because that's normal. Now, we don't
actually have production quality. We just say everybody use your
cell phones.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
You think that's the first female president. I'm not saying
that's going to happen, But if I were Joe Biden,
that's exactly what I would do. Again, you have a
very short runway left of being relevant and of being
able to.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Make your mark in a historic way. Why not do
it that way? Oh I'm glad you asked.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
First of all, don't pardon your son because that is
going to hang over your legacy and it's going to
make the Democrats look like they are just as bad
as everything they've accused Trump of being right.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
So that's the first thing you don't want.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
You don't want to be in the do as I say,
not as I do game, So don't do that. Second,
when it comes to resigning so that Harris can get
the title of first female president, what an insult, What
an absolute insult that is to her.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
But it actually sets women back. It sets women back.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
And imagine if you are the next female who's on
the top of a ticket. Not only if you're the
female and you win and you're legitimately the first female
president ever elected to office, you would not get that title, right, So,
(32:37):
all of a sudden you are the second female president.
The first female president is basically a footnote at that
point as part of a political stunt. And what happens
is you have set a standard that reinforces I'm gonna
sound like a drive a super with a coexistick around it. Now,
(32:58):
you are going to reinforce the notion that we live
in a patriarchy that requires a man to help a
woman accomplish something.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, I said the patriarchy. God, dang it. Oh, I
know I sound a little bit poofo. But think about this.
What is it that?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
What is the what is the phrase the Great White Hope?
That's it, it's the great White hope?
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Right?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
This notion that if you are a black man in America,
it takes a white man to help you accomplish something. No, No,
And there's a difference between advocacy and stepping in to
try I'll do it for you.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
No, don't do that. Don't do that. There's one thing
about being supportive.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
There's something else about saying I'll do it for you
so that you can take credit and it'll be because
of the help that I gave you that'll.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Make me a better person.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
No, all you're doing is you're taking away the agency
of the future generations of women. You're taking away the age,
and you're saying, well, the only way that a woman
could be a president is if a man allows it
and a man makes it happen, and you actually weaken
the image of future female politicians. It makes it harder
(34:13):
for us to have the first female president in the
United States. So this notion of Biden should resign and
then Harris can be president. I mean, look, if the
guy has a stroke, that's one thing which we all
saw him at the debate. Let's not be on the
realm of possibility, but to do it intentionally as a stunt.
(34:34):
It's not American, man, it's not American. A right, guys,
Can we stop talking about politics?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
We just did an hour on that. I don't like it.
Are you cool with that? Oh? Please, let's have more
than we can move on.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
We're good, all right, good, thank you got it all
out of my system.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
We met the quota. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
That's all I was trying to do. It's just trying
to hit the quota, is the right way to say it.
Do that, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
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We're live everywhere. Yeah, I heart radio. There's a lot of.
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