January 7, 2025 • 37 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – An in-depth look at ‘Digital Mind State’ CEO Mike Johns’ wild Waymo self-driving taxi ride AND a list of the top 15 states with the worst drivers in America…PLUS – Thoughts on the restaurant manager that refused to let a dinner party leave unless they tipped their server - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
K six for It's Later with Mo Kelly Live Everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app Happy Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Is there such a thing as happy Monday? Or is
that like an oxymoron?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It is an oxymoron there, It does not exist. There
is no happy Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Well, rainy days and Mondays always get me down, but
not today, not today, Not today.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's a pretty good Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
You know, there's this video going around, this story about
this guy caught in a way mo He was circling
and circling and circling.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And missed his flight.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Everyone's talking about it. I mean everyone's talking about it.
I heard Tim talking about it. The story's on NBC
four right now. But here's something you didn't know. He's
a longtime friend of mine, Mike Johns, known for about
thirty years.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Are you serious? I'm being very serious.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
He's at CEES right now, presenting right now, right now.
Couldn't work it out tonight because he's presenting at ces
right now.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
He's one of the tech leaders in AI as a
matter of fact, as Tauwala condemned him.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yet no, not yet, but Tuala is going to have
to answer for this. We're going to talk about the
story tonight. But Mike Johnson is going to join us
on the show tomorrow night. We've been texting back and forth.
It's going to come on, but because he has the
whole Cees thing that he's doing with the presentation during
the show, he won't be available until after ten o'clock tonight,
I said, Mike, so we're off the air at that point.
(01:54):
So we'll talk about the story tonight, but just know
this is the only show where actually going to hear
from him and his story about WEIMO and how Twala
is on the take for WEIMO. We now know firsthand
Twala is on the take, and we knew that something
(02:14):
like this was going to eventually happen. I'm not going
to get too much in the sword, but we knew
this was going to happen. It was just a matter
of time. But now it's happened to the wrong guy.
Why because not only do I know the guy, not
only is the guy high up in tech. He's going
to be coming on KFI, the number one news talk
station in America and a number one stream station on
(02:36):
iHeart Radio's app, and we'll talk about the fifteen states
with the worst drivers in America, according to studies.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I wonder if California's on that list. Did you see the.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Story about the manager who refused to let diners leave,
or at least not before they tipped the weight staff.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Can you imagine that?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Can you imagine if someone got between you and the
door saying you can't leave until you tip your waitress, waiter,
or server. Mind you, you've already paid the bill contractually,
that's your only obligation. We're gonna talk about that this hour.
(03:20):
And let me just say, here's the short rendition of
this song. We would have a major misunderstanding if you
do not allow me to leave your establishment before tipping. Now,
I'm not someone who's saying that it's cool to not tip.
I'm saying, if I've made the choice to not tip,
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or to only tip a paltry amount, you better get
your ass out of the way, because otherwise that's kidnapping.
And I'm not gonna be kidnapped. You're gonna be kicked
at a neck. I can promise you that you're not
gonna hold me against my will. We'll get into that story.
And speaking of stories, did you see that massive lawsuit
(04:01):
story about Fox Sports one Woo skip bayless. Joy Taylor,
an executive for Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Sex sex, sex, sex, sex.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And more sex and sexual Uh uh promise cuty married
and you know, uh promising them one point five million
dollars if one person was sleep with another, it's ooh,
it's really bad. We're gonna talk about that with Jackie
Ray as we go beyond the box Score. If there
was ever a story which was great for beyond the
box score, it's that sports and society where they intersect,
(04:39):
where they meet. If you haven't seen the story, I
need you to google it now and start reading it
because it is so pithy, it is so convoluted. You
may need a primer before we even start talking about it. Yeah,
go ahead and google Mark Ronner. Okay, you're gonna look
up Joy Taylor, gonna look up Fox Sports one hairdresser,
(05:02):
sexual misconduct, advances, unwanted advances, sleeping to get ahead. Oh,
it's it's Oh, it's salacious. Would it make Roger Ayles proud?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Is he looking up at them from the afterlife and
beaming with pride? Well?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
As I understand, Fox Corporation is also part of the suit.
It it could be well, it's going to be career defining,
career ending, show ending, and reputation ruining. Before all is
said and done, you have to look up the story
because I'm going to spend eight minutes on it at
the top of next hour.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
But you got to see it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It is bonkers, bonkers, and it also includes some very
powerful people, some very attractive people.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
You can see how some things might have happened here
or there.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It's believable, but it doesn't mean it's true. We'll get
into that top of next hour. And did you hear
about the United Airlines passenger who got banned from the
airline after urinating on another passenger soaked, according to the story,
soaked from a stomach down. That's another situation if that
happened to me. Let's say I just happened to be
(06:14):
asleep on an airplane, which I've been known to do.
Fall asleep and this warm sensation starts trickling down my stomach.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And you're sure it's not you.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
All I can say is everyone on that flight is
in danger. If I wake up and I realized someone
has urinated on me. We don't give passenger fifty seven
a golden shower. Oh no, no, oh no. If I'm
going down. Everyone's going down. That came out wrong. Of course,
the weekend box Office. We're going to listen back to
(06:45):
some of the Golden Globe Awards. I thought the the
opening monologue was pretty damn funny, Pretty damn funny. Have
you seen the jokes that she cut? No, but I
could tell where she held back on some of them.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
They're brutal, they're good. Nicki Glazer was the host, and
she did a fine job.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
It's rare where you think, Okay, there's no point in
having someone doing a hosting job or a monologue because
it's never really funny. No, she was really really funny,
working obviously off of some prepared jokes, and also some
jokes were extemporaneous off the top of her head. You
can just tell with people in the room, and credit
(07:31):
where credit is due. They were well written and also
well delivered. So we'll definitely listen to that. And there
were a couple of some poignant up speeches, touching speeches
which almost got me kind of choked up. To me more,
her speech was really touching and also insightful, how she
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was talking about her own insecurities and how she had
my word given up on herself in many ways. It
was interesting what she had to say, and that seemed
relatively unrehearsed as well. There's so much to discuss tonight
on Later with Mo Kelly. When we come back, we're
gonna get into that Waymo Rider who was stuck circling Lax,
(08:12):
personal friend of mine and also a fellow fraternity brother
of Amagasi Fi Fraternity Incorporated. That's how I know him,
knowing him for thirty years. We're gonna get into that next.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
By now you've probably seen the story. You've probably heard
the story about the Los Angeles man trapped circling in
a way Mo on the way to the airport. Now
they've been conflicting reports about whether he actually missed his
flight home to Los Angeles. But tomorrow we're gonna clear
all that up. As the person involved with an LA
tech entrepreneur Mike Johns, and he posted this video a
(08:47):
few weeks ago on LinkedIn, and all of a sudden
everyone seemed to discover it in the past two days.
You know, here on Lady with Mo Kelly, we have
been discussing way Mo for.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Quite some time.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
To Wallace Sharp, you have been in the pocket of
Waimo accepting undisclosed funds because you are always uh, super
defensive around Waimo, trying to protect them and their brand.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
I am protecting the future of technology. Like Mike Johns himself,
I consider myself a futurist. Maybe not someone of his pedigrees,
someone who is way way up there, but I see
the future as he does. He got into the Weimo
why because he trusted it. Now, the Weimo was circling
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Lax allegedly, and that's what's been a parking Hey, okay,
he was not in any danger. It was just a
frustrating day. But there's a frustrating day.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
How many times have you been late to lax to
miss a flight? Never?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
But that's just me earlier. But Mike Johns, let me
just give you some context. The person who was in
this car, he's not just some passenger like you or me.
He is a tech CEO in his own right. He
understands this landscape. He's a CEES Innovation Awards judge. Last
year twenty twenty four, twenty twenty four FCC Communications Equity
(10:15):
and Diversity Council meeting. Advisory board member, created AI Advisory
Board framework for the City of Los Angeles, created AI
Advisory Board Framework for Southern Nevada UNLV. Instructor of Future Literacy,
founder of We Are Digital five oh one C three nonprofit,
and he's been my friend for thirty years, I think,
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most importantly, most importantly.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Okay, now, now.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
We're going to get to an audio of actually what happened,
and he will give his description of what happened, and
we'll hear from him tomorrow first person, and he is
going to take you to task on all your blasphemy.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Okay, that's right.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
And understand this happened to a tech guy. He loves
the idea of driverless cars and was really excited to
ride in one. We've been seeing them all over tonight
here in Santa Monica. But now he says he won't
take one again until he knows they have worked the
kinks out.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Okay, why has this happened to me?
Speaker 6 (11:14):
On a Monday, Mike Johns started rolling as the way
mo he was in started going round and round last
week and he started going in circles with customer service.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Why is this thing going in a circle. I'm getting dizzy,
He says.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
It was spinning like a tea cup at Disney World
in a Scottsdale parking lot, with him trapped inside and
unable to stop.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
It around a parking lot.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
I got my seat belt on, I can't get out
the car. Has this been hacked? What's going on? I
feel like I'm in the.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Movies in a video that's now gone viral. He says
the Waimo turned like a top at least five times
before customer service was able to get it under control
and headed to the airport, where Johns caught a flight
back to la All the while someone or something talking
to him him and failing to ease his concerns.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
I don't have an option to control the car. Well,
can he stop this car? I am trying to do
it over right now? Apologies? Where's the empathy? Where's the
human connection to this? It's just again a case of
today's digital world, half baked product and nobody meeting the
customer the consumers in the middle.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
He's still not certain he was communicating with a real
person or AI, and says he has real concerns about
the service he'd like to share with waymo.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Wait, he knows a little something about this subject matter.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Okay, if his concerned is a TEXEO, then damn it,
we should be concerned. How dare you twhy put us
in these dangerous things?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I'm seeing a slight hint of much ado about nothing.
He says he circled five times. It wasn't fifty eleven
times till the point he was dizzy and throwing up.
And the poor, the poor AI generated voice that was
trying to help him and get him out of this.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Where was his empathy for the AI? Where was his sympathy?
Speaker 6 (13:05):
He has real concerns about the service he'd like to
share with Waimo, but he says no one has reached
out to him, even after his video has been viewed
by more than two million people. John's works in tech
and he wants to see the succeed and thinks it
will maybe just not yet.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's called driver.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Lists, but to him at this point, there's a better
word for it.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Humanless. Humanless, right, humanless. That's that ghost in the show, right.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So we'll hear from him tomorrow on the show, and
we expect him to get to walla sharp straight.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I'm excited to hear what it was like to be
in a real life Twilight Zone episode. Tech Guy gets
his comeuppance with tech All.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
All I know is Twalla Sharp has better get his
apology ready, not only Michael, but for me and for
you and the case if I listening public where he
tried to deceive all of us saying that it's it's safe,
it's better than a human driver. I don't know how
many human drivers who are not under the influence of
(14:10):
something do circles unless they're trying to do like a
street takeover.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Look.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Unfortunately, this story does not meet out all of the details,
and I think things that need to be highlighted. He's
excited about the product. He thinks the product will work.
He got into the Weymo and this was, for my understanding,
this was an Arizona where they had still been having
kinks in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
It's the same damn product you if they got E
Coli and McDonald's in Arizona, I shouldn't worry about E
Coli in LA.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That's not fair. That's not a fair comparison.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
What I'm saying is the Weymos in LA have never
spun around a parking lot they've never spun around a
parking lot.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Okay, that's like saying the Boeing plane hasn't fallen out
of the sky at this airport.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Oh no, because then if we're trying to compare Boeing
airplanes falling to car circling, that's not a fair comparison.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's right, that's right. This is way Moo blasphemy.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
We need to have a way more representative on the
phone to counter some of these points.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You're sitting right there.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Look, you get way Mo to come on the show.
I'm getting Mike Johnson to come on the show tomorrow. Okay, well,
Way Moo's busy.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well you gotta make excuses for them in advance.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You got pre excuse, you got a pre buddle, you
got a pre reason.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Can't believe you.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It's like the Sarah Huckabee Sanders of Weaimo sitting there.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You so.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Now now now, now, now, let's not take it out
on t Walla too much.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
He picked the wrong side in this.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
He was of the opinion that Weimo was a safe company,
that it was ready for prime time, that people were
ready to take the next step. Now, what people may
not know if you're just tuning, tuning into us for
the first time. I was getting ready to you a
way We had talked about me getting a way Mo.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We would probably broadcast it. You let you host the show.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I'd run down, get in a waimo, and I would
call you and we could narrate what was happening in
the weamo.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I'm not putting my black ass in one of those
things down. I know that's still happening. I promise you
this my black ass in Waymo Josh.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
And he will say, you know what, Mop, it was fine.
That little fractice in the parking lot that has put
me off, and it lets me know that way More
needs to step up its human interaction and be able
to solve these issues expeditiously and not have any customer
go through this again.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
And that's fine. That's fine. It's a new technology. Would
you like some thousand island with that world word solid
of viewers. I can't believe this. Thank you very much,
Thank you very much. Two shows nightly.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
When we come back to fifteen states with the worst
drivers in America according to studies, no clue as to
whether Waymo is on this list in one of those
states or two of those states, probably in California.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It is California on this list.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
Twelve.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You gave them the story. I haven't seen it yet.
It's California on the list.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, California's on the list, all right, So we're one
of the fifteen states with the worst drivers.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
That's next.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
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Speaker 4 (17:16):
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Speaker 1 (17:21):
Let's get to this list the fifteen states with the
worst drivers in the country. In the country. Who did
this study? I don't know, it doesn't matter. Coming in
at number fifteen. Number fifteen, the worst drivers New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I've been in New Mexico. They're not that bad. Not
that bad. Number fourteen Montana.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Now, according to this driving in Montana might seems straightforward,
but the state's open roads hide significant risks. Speeding is
a common issue, with mini drivers treating the state's highways
as racetracks. Drunk driving incidents are alarmingly frequent, and seatbelt
use is among the lowest in the country.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Number thirteen. You know I'm gonna sing it right.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Oh Lahoma, where the wind comes sweeping down the plane
and the waving weed.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Nothing absolutely nothing, no pause, no cheers. Thank you, thank you.
That's so much better. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
It is Cam. I'll take it. If we had a
live in studio audience to be different Mark Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Drunk driving incidents are a major concern in the state,
contributing to a significant number of fatal accidents each year.
Phone use also remains a problem, despite efforts to enforce
stricter laws. It's also worth noting that getting around in
Oklahoma can be tricky, especially on rural roads where maintenance
is often lacking. In drivers often ignore posted speed limits
and put others at risk, coming in at number twelve
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of the worst drivers in the country.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Nevada not to be confused with Nevada.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
If you ever say Nevada to someone from Nevada, they
will get angry at you.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It's Nevada, not Dovada. Nevada Nevada.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Road safety in Nevada takes a hit due to the
mix of local drivers and out of state tourists. Las
Vegas sees a particularly high number of accidents, often caused
by distracted drivers unfamiliar with the area. Speaking is another
major concern, especially on highways leading out of the city
where drivers push their limits like me. The fastest I've
ever driven was on a trip from La to Las Vegas.
(19:54):
I think we talked about this. The fastest I've ever
driven is about one hundred and thirty. That Honda has
two thousand and Yes, those go a hunt. Yes, well, yeah,
if you drive it, if you do it for like
maybe I was right for like close to a minute
to get it up there.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, it was about one hundred and thirty. It'll get
you there.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
That was one of my dream cars.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, what was that car? Mark, what's the fastest you've driven.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
In that territory? But no longer, No, no, no, no, believe
in the lawn. No, no, I was much younger and
much dummer back then. I wouldn't do it that now.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I used to.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I lived by a near a golf course with a big,
big hill when I was young and Spokane, and I
would try and get my grandparents' car up to one
hundred gone down the hill and then just shriek around
the corner.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, the stupid stuff that we used to do. Yeah, yeah,
we were lucky to be alive. Oh no, no, no, mine
was skilled. Maybe it was love for you. I was
a fantastic try if you say so, Yes, as good
a driver as you are a singer. Yes, as a
matter of fact. Well, everybody out of the way, kiss today, goodbye,
something goodbye, and point me toward tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Wish may lock the same to you.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
My God, he won't stop. Number eleven Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Kentucky has a lot of winding rural roads, so speeding
and drunk driving are significant issues, with many accidents occurring
in areas where visibility is limited. The state's traffic fatality
rate is one of the highest in the region, reflecting
a combination of dangerous driving habits and challenging road conditions.
Public safety initiatives have tried to raise awareness, but many
drivers continue to engage in behaviors that put themselves and
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others at risk.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
That sounds about right. I've never been to Kentucky. You
know what. I never planned to go to Kentucky. There's
no reason for you too, That's all I need to know.
Number ten Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
In Arkansas, nearly half of all fatal crashes occur on
rural roads, where narrow lanes and a lack of proper
safety features create dangerous conditions. Speeding on those roads only
makes the problem worse, And of course, the state's seat
belt usage is below the national average, combined, resulting in
more severe injuries when accidents happen. Combine, these factors contribute
to Arkansas's troubling road safety statistics. Number nine, Can I
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sing it?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Can I sing it? Nobody can stop you? But Georgia okay, okay?
Georgia such a hater.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Despite recent efforts to improve road safety laws in Georgia,
many of these issues remains deeply ingrained in the state's
driving culture. Georgia's roads can also be difficult to navigate,
especially in the busy metro areas. Also, Atlanta's Hot Lanta
notorious traffic jams often bring out aggressive driving behaviors, from
tailgating to weaving through lanes without signaling.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Sounds like California. Number eight, Can.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
I sing it?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
What are the FCC rules on that? Foosh? Sweet Home? Alabama?
From a line.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Chief jackside football, traffic fatalities in Alabama are alarmingly high,
particularly in rural areas.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
It's something about rural areas. People just can't drive.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I was gonna say the lesson here is don't go
to drive on rural drive in the South well, there
where law enforcement is limited, speeding and drunk driving are common.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Sorry, it's not funny, but it's funny.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
That makes sense, though, with reckless behavior contributing to the
state's poor safety record.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
As another state's.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Many drivers also engage in distracted driving, often using their
phones while on the road. That's number eight of the
worst states for driving in the country. In number seven,
any guesses, probably down South, probably rural state we haven't listed.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I'm starting to detect maybe a correlation with educational rankings.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Oh oh damn, why you gotta go personal, because I'm
looking it up right now. Louisiana. Traffic in the state
often feels unpredictable and risky, with a mix of challenges
making the roads dangerous. Drunk driving incidents. Okay, so let's
just get it out there.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
If you're in the South, there's probably drunk driving, there's
probably distracted driving, there's probably rural it's probably just all bad.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Just don't drive in the South. It's safe for number six.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
South Carolina faces an uphill battle when it comes to
road safety. The state has one of the highest fatality
rates in the country, with speeding and alcohol use among
the top contributing factors.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Sounds like a story we've heard before. Number five Florida.
Can we at least get out of that time zone? Can't?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Taking a drive in Florida often feels like navigating an
obstacle course. Studies consistently highlight high rates of bad driving,
particularly in tourists heavy cities like Orlando and Miami.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Aggressive behavior, speeding, road rage. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Number four of the worst states of drivers in the
country Missouri. Nearly one in five traffic fatalities in Missouri
involves speeding, highlighting their widespread danger on the state's roads.
Aggressive behaviors like tailgating excessive speeding especially common in Saint
(25:35):
Louis and Kansas City, and the rural regions are really bad,
of course.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Number three California. Here, I come right back where we
started from. Oh, ben, up those golden gates to California. California, California, Yeah,
here I.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
How many people do you think you just to swerve
off the road by doing that?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Hopefully not too many, but it wouldn't be unforeseen because California,
LA and San Francisco are notorious for gridlock, where drivers
frequently engage in risky behaviors like weaving through traffic or
speeding during brief openings, or.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Giving we're honners, what's an There's no need for that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Phone use remains one of the leading causes of accidents
in the state on highways like the one oh one
or the five. Reckless lane changes and tailgating are all
too common, adding to the stress of commuting. Coming again,
number three, deep in the Hart of Texas, Texas number three.
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Navigating the roads in Texas can be a challenge for
even the most experienced drivers. Fatal crashes are frequent occurrence,
especially in bustling cities like Houston, Dallas, and Austin. Distracted driving,
phone use, yeah, major concerns, major concerns.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Texas was number two. Any guesses for number one? Any one? Anyone?
New York? Stephan, guess did you say Washington?
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Ready?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Not the state of Washington. No Washington? Okay, Mark ronnerd
what southern state? Haven't we mentioned?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You think we're going down south again?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
It's got to be someplace in the South. Okay, here
we go.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Number one, the state with the worst drivers in America,
according to some study. Okay, Stephan, there's no song for this,
but you can spell it M I croocket letter, crookeet letter,
(27:37):
I cricket letter, crooked letter, I hump back, hump back,
I Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Back to the South. Yep, all right, where do I win?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Absolutely nothing? You win nothing, just a full set of teeth.
But you were correct.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
We did go back down south. And yes, that's how
I learned how to spell Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Well done. Still can't spell Massachusetts, but I can spell Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
You got to write out Massachuset. Okay, it's the secret. Uh, Stephan,
pull it up on the computer. Mark you want to
try one more time to spell my richie. Come on now,
you're the news man. We gotta go to break.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
We don't have time for this. Look at the time,
I'll give you a first letter.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
M A S A C H U S E T
T S.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Did he get it right? Okay? Because I can't handle
I'm spell checking like a mug. Now you got to
write it out. You can't do it in your head.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
There's too many, too many letters.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
It's like it's like the King and Ambada is too
many notes. It's got too many notes. You're lucky. We're
up against the break.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
It's later with mo Kelly k if I AM six
forty we Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, and when
we come back, we want to tell you about a
manager who refused to let diners leave unless they tipped
the wait staff.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I wish a mother of father.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Would you're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty Wimbo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
On six Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Mind you,
We've talked any number of times about tipping, and I
have evolved on the subject. I can honestly say I
have evolved. I would say pre pandemic. I was never
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one to give a tip for to go order. That's
just like, wait a minute, are you doing this handing
me my food? I was one who would never give
a tip at the counter of fast food, even though
they have this jar out there, like subway in certain
other places. Why would you get a tip for just
doing your job. I was brought up to think that
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a tip was going over and above. Now we can
have this convoluted discussion like, well, they're not paid a
living wage, or you should help them out because they
don't make anything but minimum way yea, yeah, yeah, blah,
blah blah. I'm just talking about the principle of tipping.
The tipping was supposed to be over and above. Like
even in a restaurant situ, you can tell when someone
is going over and above.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
They're very attentive. They are tending to your needs.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
If you need water, you need your check, need your dessert, whatever,
they're going over and above have no problem tipping. And
I am a generous tipper. I'm usually around the twenty
percent range. Post pandemic. I just tip everywhere just because
I just I'm really offended. I'm usually going to an eatery,
let's say a dlomma mall on Torrents and there's this
(30:28):
place I love getting food. I'm not going to call
them out, but you know, you make your order and
then they turn around that screen and says, well, the
screen has two questions for you. Yes, I know you
don't want to say, are you going to give us
a tip or not? But it's it's basically shaming us
to give a tip while they stare at you. While
they stare and yes, they're going to judge you. And
it's before you get your food. And it's kind of
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an unspoken agreement that if you don't tip, you have
to worry about something happening to your food. That's the
way I look at it. Go ahead and tip, and
I don't want to end up on anyone's shows like, oh, Kelly,
he's a horrible tipper. Okase, I know it. Someone's waiting
for me just so they can say that, And I'm
not going to give anyone the chance to say that.
(31:11):
With all that as a precursor, I came across this
story where a manager at a restaurant refuse to let
a party leave without tipping their waitress. And there's video
of it, but there's so much background noise it doesn't
make sense to play the video.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But the story goes like this.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
A manager was filmed refusing refusing to let an entire
table leave unless they tip their server. I understand when
you go into, let's say, a place like Denny's, you
have a party of eight that's very cumbersome, that's very
difficult for the server to handle.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's usually that server has to go above and beyond.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I think it would be unconscionable not to tip, okay,
because you're asking more of that person than they're supposed
to do for that job, the whole idea of separate
checks and everything, some people still do it and it's
a pain in the end.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Answer to the server, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
But but just because you're an a hole as a
customer does not mean that you are obligated by law
to give someone a tip. And if you, the manager,
stand between me and the door and say that I
cannot leave until I tip the waitress. And if I've decided,
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for whatever reasons, that that person is unworthy because it's
my discretion, yes, it's a value system. If I decided
that person is unworthy of my tip and you're standing
between me and the door, I can promise you we
are going to have a misunderstanding and I'm going to win.
By law, the contract is you provide food, I pay
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you for that food. I'm not obligated to tip over
and above. Should a person tip absolutely in that situation. Absolutely,
But I'm not required by law, and you're not gonna
hold me hostage. If you get between me and the door.
I'm gonna look at Mark Roter. I want to say, Mark,
go get them. I'm not sure who's side to take
(33:08):
on this. I'm not sure it's yours. You're saying that
you're gonna side with the manager on this.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I can tell you that as a bartender, I stood
on the other side of the bar from from a
guy who waits for me to hand him the quarter
change for his Miller light while he complains it don't
cost as much at the grocery store. Well, then thank
you and go to hell. Sir, all right, but you
got to leave the restaurant to go to hell.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And my point is, if if in that scenario, if
I've paid for the beverage, the tip, even though would
be the polite thing to do, is not a requirement.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
It is.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
If it's a requirement, it should be on the menu,
it should be on the bill, and I should pay
them out on the bill.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Well, maybe we can meet in the middle here and
agree on this. I wouldn't want to hold you in
the restaurant. I would want to tell you not to
come back to the restaurant. Completely fair. I would think
you're wrong in principle because it's not a tip. Then
it's not like I'm disrespecting your weight staff. I mean,
either it's a tip or it's not a tip. A
tip is at my discretion. If it's not at my discretion.
(34:14):
Then it's no longer a tip. And are you saying
it's got to be ten percent? He's got to be
fifteen percent? When do I get to go back to
my car? Well, we have a social contract that you're violating.
You can get all technical all you want, you can
lawyer this to Kingdom. Come, but if you go to
a restaurant and you're served and you leave nothing, that
is a shameful thing to do.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
I agree, we don't disagree.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
But in this particular scenario, the manager is physically imposing himself.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
You're putting his hands on you.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
What's he doing, Well, he's standing between the door and
the customers. He's not allowing the customers to leave they've
paid the bill. He's saying that they have to also
pay the waitress a tip. You don't think that's brave
and chivalrous of him. I think it's dumb. And if
he gets his ass kicked, he deserves it and he
will lose in a court of law.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Incitement. Listen to this incitement, Foosh.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
You know good and well Mark that he has no
legal right to prevent me from leaving the restaurant, especially
if I paid my bill.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Do I need to go down the list of things
in US history that were.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Legal but immral you can call it I moral, But
he doesn't have a legal leg to stand on. I'm
just talking about between now and the ass whooping. There's
no reason, no legal leg that he has.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
To stand on.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
And that is dangerous because if he crosses the wrong
person aka a MOE type or someone who's armed, it's
game over for him.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
That he loses in court every single.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Time for sure. But everything, let's be realistic here. How
bad would the service have had to be for the
waitress to receive zero tip? Well, that's neither here nor there.
This up to the discussion of no very important. Look,
I'm allowed to be an a hole in this hypothetical.
I am not legally required to give anyone a tip.
(36:04):
I am legally required to pay for the food that
I've ordered, but I'm not legally required to give a tip.
That's why restaurants are trying to play this funny game
where they're making this part of.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
The fees, oh, which are included on the bill.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, we had one of those over the weekend, and
that opens a whole nother thing.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
This surcharge.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Right, the surcharge, and that's been debated in law and
everything because they want to make it where you're then
obligated to pay what is on the bill. The tip
is not on the bill. And is that the discretion
of the person who's paying for the meal? And if
I pay for the meal, buy and would that fall
under the junk fees that they're getting rid of. Well,
it's not stated in this scenario.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
It's a tip.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
It's not like, listen, on the bill, you have to
pay the waitress because this was supposed to go directly
to the waitress is not going to the restaurant. So
the manager was saying, you have to pay this to
the waitress. If y'all i'm leaving, well, I've got a
tip for you.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Mo.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
What's that Be a little nicer to your waitresses and
you won't get as many specials.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I had made it very clear I wouldn't do it.
I'm gonna tip anyhow. But if it comes down to
it and someone saying you can't leave the restaurant unless
you tip, well I'm calling the police and I will win.
It's later with Mo Kelly can if I am Since
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on the iHeartRadio app Happy Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Is there such a thing as happy Monday? Or is
that like an oxymoron?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It is an oxymoron there, It does not exist. There
is no happy Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Well, rainy days and Mondays always get me down, but
not today, not today, Not today.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's a pretty good Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
You know, there's this video going around, this story about
this guy caught in a way mo He was circling
and circling and circling.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And missed his flight.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Everyone's talking about it. I mean everyone's talking about it.
I heard Tim talking about it. The story's on NBC
four right now. But here's something you didn't know. He's
a longtime friend of mine, Mike Johns, known for about
thirty years.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Are you serious? I'm being very serious.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
He's at CEES right now, presenting right now, right now.
Couldn't work it out tonight because he's presenting at ces
right now.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
He's one of the tech leaders in AI as a
matter of fact, as Tauwala condemned him.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yet no, not yet, but Tuala is going to have
to answer for this. We're going to talk about the
story tonight. But Mike Johnson is going to join us
on the show tomorrow night. We've been texting back and forth.
It's going to come on, but because he has the
whole Cees thing that he's doing with the presentation during
the show, he won't be available until after ten o'clock tonight,
I said, Mike, so we're off the air at that point.
(01:54):
So we'll talk about the story tonight, but just know
this is the only show where actually going to hear
from him and his story about WEIMO and how Twala
is on the take for WEIMO. We now know firsthand
Twala is on the take, and we knew that something
(02:14):
like this was going to eventually happen. I'm not going
to get too much in the sword, but we knew
this was going to happen. It was just a matter
of time. But now it's happened to the wrong guy.
Why because not only do I know the guy, not
only is the guy high up in tech. He's going
to be coming on KFI, the number one news talk
station in America and a number one stream station on
(02:36):
iHeart Radio's app, and we'll talk about the fifteen states
with the worst drivers in America, according to studies.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I wonder if California's on that list. Did you see the.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Story about the manager who refused to let diners leave,
or at least not before they tipped the weight staff.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Can you imagine that?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Can you imagine if someone got between you and the
door saying you can't leave until you tip your waitress, waiter,
or server. Mind you, you've already paid the bill contractually,
that's your only obligation. We're gonna talk about that this hour.
(03:20):
And let me just say, here's the short rendition of
this song. We would have a major misunderstanding if you
do not allow me to leave your establishment before tipping. Now,
I'm not someone who's saying that it's cool to not tip.
I'm saying, if I've made the choice to not tip,
(03:41):
or to only tip a paltry amount, you better get
your ass out of the way, because otherwise that's kidnapping.
And I'm not gonna be kidnapped. You're gonna be kicked
at a neck. I can promise you that you're not
gonna hold me against my will. We'll get into that story.
And speaking of stories, did you see that massive lawsuit
(04:01):
story about Fox Sports one Woo skip bayless. Joy Taylor,
an executive for Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Sex sex, sex, sex, sex.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And more sex and sexual Uh uh promise cuty married
and you know, uh promising them one point five million
dollars if one person was sleep with another, it's ooh,
it's really bad. We're gonna talk about that with Jackie
Ray as we go beyond the box Score. If there
was ever a story which was great for beyond the
box score, it's that sports and society where they intersect,
(04:39):
where they meet. If you haven't seen the story, I
need you to google it now and start reading it
because it is so pithy, it is so convoluted. You
may need a primer before we even start talking about it. Yeah,
go ahead and google Mark Ronner. Okay, you're gonna look
up Joy Taylor, gonna look up Fox Sports one hairdresser,
(05:02):
sexual misconduct, advances, unwanted advances, sleeping to get ahead. Oh,
it's it's Oh, it's salacious. Would it make Roger Ayles proud?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Is he looking up at them from the afterlife and
beaming with pride? Well?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
As I understand, Fox Corporation is also part of the suit.
It it could be well, it's going to be career defining,
career ending, show ending, and reputation ruining. Before all is
said and done, you have to look up the story
because I'm going to spend eight minutes on it at
the top of next hour.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
But you got to see it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It is bonkers, bonkers, and it also includes some very
powerful people, some very attractive people.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
You can see how some things might have happened here
or there.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
It's believable, but it doesn't mean it's true. We'll get
into that top of next hour. And did you hear
about the United Airlines passenger who got banned from the
airline after urinating on another passenger soaked, according to the story,
soaked from a stomach down. That's another situation if that
happened to me. Let's say I just happened to be
(06:14):
asleep on an airplane, which I've been known to do.
Fall asleep and this warm sensation starts trickling down my stomach.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And you're sure it's not you.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
All I can say is everyone on that flight is
in danger. If I wake up and I realized someone
has urinated on me. We don't give passenger fifty seven
a golden shower. Oh no, no, oh no. If I'm
going down. Everyone's going down. That came out wrong. Of course,
the weekend box Office. We're going to listen back to
(06:45):
some of the Golden Globe Awards. I thought the the
opening monologue was pretty damn funny, Pretty damn funny. Have
you seen the jokes that she cut? No, but I
could tell where she held back on some of them.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
They're brutal, they're good. Nicki Glazer was the host, and
she did a fine job.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
It's rare where you think, Okay, there's no point in
having someone doing a hosting job or a monologue because
it's never really funny. No, she was really really funny,
working obviously off of some prepared jokes, and also some
jokes were extemporaneous off the top of her head. You
can just tell with people in the room, and credit
(07:31):
where credit is due. They were well written and also
well delivered. So we'll definitely listen to that. And there
were a couple of some poignant up speeches, touching speeches
which almost got me kind of choked up. To me more,
her speech was really touching and also insightful, how she
(07:52):
was talking about her own insecurities and how she had
my word given up on herself in many ways. It
was interesting what she had to say, and that seemed
relatively unrehearsed as well. There's so much to discuss tonight
on Later with Mo Kelly. When we come back, we're
gonna get into that Waymo Rider who was stuck circling Lax,
(08:12):
personal friend of mine and also a fellow fraternity brother
of Amagasi Fi Fraternity Incorporated. That's how I know him,
knowing him for thirty years. We're gonna get into that next.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
By now you've probably seen the story. You've probably heard
the story about the Los Angeles man trapped circling in
a way Mo on the way to the airport. Now
they've been conflicting reports about whether he actually missed his
flight home to Los Angeles. But tomorrow we're gonna clear
all that up. As the person involved with an LA
tech entrepreneur Mike Johns, and he posted this video a
(08:47):
few weeks ago on LinkedIn, and all of a sudden
everyone seemed to discover it in the past two days.
You know, here on Lady with Mo Kelly, we have
been discussing way Mo for.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Quite some time.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
To Wallace Sharp, you have been in the pocket of
Waimo accepting undisclosed funds because you are always uh, super
defensive around Waimo, trying to protect them and their brand.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
I am protecting the future of technology. Like Mike Johns himself,
I consider myself a futurist. Maybe not someone of his pedigrees,
someone who is way way up there, but I see
the future as he does. He got into the Weimo
why because he trusted it. Now, the Weimo was circling
(09:36):
Lax allegedly, and that's what's been a parking Hey, okay,
he was not in any danger. It was just a
frustrating day. But there's a frustrating day.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
How many times have you been late to lax to
miss a flight? Never?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
But that's just me earlier. But Mike Johns, let me
just give you some context. The person who was in
this car, he's not just some passenger like you or me.
He is a tech CEO in his own right. He
understands this landscape. He's a CEES Innovation Awards judge. Last
year twenty twenty four, twenty twenty four FCC Communications Equity
(10:15):
and Diversity Council meeting. Advisory board member, created AI Advisory
Board framework for the City of Los Angeles, created AI
Advisory Board Framework for Southern Nevada UNLV. Instructor of Future Literacy,
founder of We Are Digital five oh one C three nonprofit,
and he's been my friend for thirty years, I think,
(10:36):
most importantly, most importantly.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Okay, now, now.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
We're going to get to an audio of actually what happened,
and he will give his description of what happened, and
we'll hear from him tomorrow first person, and he is
going to take you to task on all your blasphemy.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Okay, that's right.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
And understand this happened to a tech guy. He loves
the idea of driverless cars and was really excited to
ride in one. We've been seeing them all over tonight
here in Santa Monica. But now he says he won't
take one again until he knows they have worked the
kinks out.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Okay, why has this happened to me?
Speaker 6 (11:14):
On a Monday, Mike Johns started rolling as the way
mo he was in started going round and round last
week and he started going in circles with customer service.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Why is this thing going in a circle. I'm getting dizzy,
He says.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
It was spinning like a tea cup at Disney World
in a Scottsdale parking lot, with him trapped inside and
unable to stop.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
It around a parking lot.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
I got my seat belt on, I can't get out
the car. Has this been hacked? What's going on? I
feel like I'm in the.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Movies in a video that's now gone viral. He says
the Waimo turned like a top at least five times
before customer service was able to get it under control
and headed to the airport, where Johns caught a flight
back to la All the while someone or something talking
to him him and failing to ease his concerns.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
I don't have an option to control the car. Well,
can he stop this car? I am trying to do
it over right now? Apologies? Where's the empathy? Where's the
human connection to this? It's just again a case of
today's digital world, half baked product and nobody meeting the
customer the consumers in the middle.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
He's still not certain he was communicating with a real
person or AI, and says he has real concerns about
the service he'd like to share with waymo.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Wait, he knows a little something about this subject matter.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Okay, if his concerned is a TEXEO, then damn it,
we should be concerned. How dare you twhy put us
in these dangerous things?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I'm seeing a slight hint of much ado about nothing.
He says he circled five times. It wasn't fifty eleven
times till the point he was dizzy and throwing up.
And the poor, the poor AI generated voice that was
trying to help him and get him out of this.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Where was his empathy for the AI? Where was his sympathy?
Speaker 6 (13:05):
He has real concerns about the service he'd like to
share with Waimo, but he says no one has reached
out to him, even after his video has been viewed
by more than two million people. John's works in tech
and he wants to see the succeed and thinks it
will maybe just not yet.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's called driver.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Lists, but to him at this point, there's a better
word for it.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Humanless. Humanless, right, humanless. That's that ghost in the show, right.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So we'll hear from him tomorrow on the show, and
we expect him to get to walla sharp straight.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I'm excited to hear what it was like to be
in a real life Twilight Zone episode. Tech Guy gets
his comeuppance with tech All.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
All I know is Twalla Sharp has better get his
apology ready, not only Michael, but for me and for
you and the case if I listening public where he
tried to deceive all of us saying that it's it's safe,
it's better than a human driver. I don't know how
many human drivers who are not under the influence of
(14:10):
something do circles unless they're trying to do like a
street takeover.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Look.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Unfortunately, this story does not meet out all of the details,
and I think things that need to be highlighted. He's
excited about the product. He thinks the product will work.
He got into the Weymo and this was, for my understanding,
this was an Arizona where they had still been having
kinks in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
It's the same damn product you if they got E
Coli and McDonald's in Arizona, I shouldn't worry about E
Coli in LA.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That's not fair. That's not a fair comparison.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
What I'm saying is the Weymos in LA have never
spun around a parking lot they've never spun around a
parking lot.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Okay, that's like saying the Boeing plane hasn't fallen out
of the sky at this airport.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Oh no, because then if we're trying to compare Boeing
airplanes falling to car circling, that's not a fair comparison.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's right, that's right. This is way Moo blasphemy.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
We need to have a way more representative on the
phone to counter some of these points.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You're sitting right there.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Look, you get way Mo to come on the show.
I'm getting Mike Johnson to come on the show tomorrow. Okay, well,
Way Moo's busy.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well you gotta make excuses for them in advance.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You got pre excuse, you got a pre buddle, you
got a pre reason.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Can't believe you.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It's like the Sarah Huckabee Sanders of Weaimo sitting there.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You so.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Now now now, now, now, let's not take it out
on t Walla too much.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
He picked the wrong side in this.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
He was of the opinion that Weimo was a safe company,
that it was ready for prime time, that people were
ready to take the next step. Now, what people may
not know if you're just tuning, tuning into us for
the first time. I was getting ready to you a
way We had talked about me getting a way Mo.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We would probably broadcast it. You let you host the show.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I'd run down, get in a waimo, and I would
call you and we could narrate what was happening in
the weamo.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I'm not putting my black ass in one of those
things down. I know that's still happening. I promise you
this my black ass in Waymo Josh.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
And he will say, you know what, Mop, it was fine.
That little fractice in the parking lot that has put
me off, and it lets me know that way More
needs to step up its human interaction and be able
to solve these issues expeditiously and not have any customer
go through this again.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
And that's fine. That's fine. It's a new technology. Would
you like some thousand island with that world word solid
of viewers. I can't believe this. Thank you very much,
Thank you very much. Two shows nightly.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
When we come back to fifteen states with the worst
drivers in America according to studies, no clue as to
whether Waymo is on this list in one of those
states or two of those states, probably in California.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It is California on this list.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
Twelve.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You gave them the story. I haven't seen it yet.
It's California on the list.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, California's on the list, all right, So we're one
of the fifteen states with the worst drivers.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
That's next.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
KFI AM since forty one Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
kfi AMS.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Let's get to this list the fifteen states with the
worst drivers in the country. In the country. Who did
this study? I don't know, it doesn't matter. Coming in
at number fifteen. Number fifteen, the worst drivers New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I've been in New Mexico. They're not that bad. Not
that bad. Number fourteen Montana.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Now, according to this driving in Montana might seems straightforward,
but the state's open roads hide significant risks. Speeding is
a common issue, with mini drivers treating the state's highways
as racetracks. Drunk driving incidents are alarmingly frequent, and seatbelt
use is among the lowest in the country.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Number thirteen. You know I'm gonna sing it right.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Oh Lahoma, where the wind comes sweeping down the plane
and the waving weed.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Nothing absolutely nothing, no pause, no cheers. Thank you, thank you.
That's so much better. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
It is Cam. I'll take it. If we had a
live in studio audience to be different Mark Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Drunk driving incidents are a major concern in the state,
contributing to a significant number of fatal accidents each year.
Phone use also remains a problem, despite efforts to enforce
stricter laws. It's also worth noting that getting around in
Oklahoma can be tricky, especially on rural roads where maintenance
is often lacking. In drivers often ignore posted speed limits
and put others at risk, coming in at number twelve
(19:15):
of the worst drivers in the country.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Nevada not to be confused with Nevada.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
If you ever say Nevada to someone from Nevada, they
will get angry at you.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It's Nevada, not Dovada. Nevada Nevada.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Road safety in Nevada takes a hit due to the
mix of local drivers and out of state tourists. Las
Vegas sees a particularly high number of accidents, often caused
by distracted drivers unfamiliar with the area. Speaking is another
major concern, especially on highways leading out of the city
where drivers push their limits like me. The fastest I've
ever driven was on a trip from La to Las Vegas.
(19:54):
I think we talked about this. The fastest I've ever
driven is about one hundred and thirty. That Honda has
two thousand and Yes, those go a hunt. Yes, well, yeah,
if you drive it, if you do it for like
maybe I was right for like close to a minute
to get it up there.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, it was about one hundred and thirty. It'll get
you there.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
That was one of my dream cars.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, what was that car? Mark, what's the fastest you've driven.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
In that territory? But no longer, No, no, no, no, believe
in the lawn. No, no, I was much younger and
much dummer back then. I wouldn't do it that now.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I used to.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I lived by a near a golf course with a big,
big hill when I was young and Spokane, and I
would try and get my grandparents' car up to one
hundred gone down the hill and then just shriek around
the corner.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, the stupid stuff that we used to do. Yeah, yeah,
we were lucky to be alive. Oh no, no, no, mine
was skilled. Maybe it was love for you. I was
a fantastic try if you say so, Yes, as good
a driver as you are a singer. Yes, as a
matter of fact. Well, everybody out of the way, kiss today, goodbye,
something goodbye, and point me toward tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Wish may lock the same to you.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
My God, he won't stop. Number eleven Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Kentucky has a lot of winding rural roads, so speeding
and drunk driving are significant issues, with many accidents occurring
in areas where visibility is limited. The state's traffic fatality
rate is one of the highest in the region, reflecting
a combination of dangerous driving habits and challenging road conditions.
Public safety initiatives have tried to raise awareness, but many
drivers continue to engage in behaviors that put themselves and
(21:36):
others at risk.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
That sounds about right. I've never been to Kentucky. You
know what. I never planned to go to Kentucky. There's
no reason for you too, That's all I need to know.
Number ten Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
In Arkansas, nearly half of all fatal crashes occur on
rural roads, where narrow lanes and a lack of proper
safety features create dangerous conditions. Speeding on those roads only
makes the problem worse, And of course, the state's seat
belt usage is below the national average, combined, resulting in
more severe injuries when accidents happen. Combine, these factors contribute
to Arkansas's troubling road safety statistics. Number nine, Can I
(22:24):
sing it?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Can I sing it? Nobody can stop you? But Georgia okay, okay?
Georgia such a hater.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Despite recent efforts to improve road safety laws in Georgia,
many of these issues remains deeply ingrained in the state's
driving culture. Georgia's roads can also be difficult to navigate,
especially in the busy metro areas. Also, Atlanta's Hot Lanta
notorious traffic jams often bring out aggressive driving behaviors, from
tailgating to weaving through lanes without signaling.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Sounds like California. Number eight, Can.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
I sing it?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
What are the FCC rules on that? Foosh? Sweet Home? Alabama?
From a line.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Chief jackside football, traffic fatalities in Alabama are alarmingly high,
particularly in rural areas.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
It's something about rural areas. People just can't drive.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I was gonna say the lesson here is don't go
to drive on rural drive in the South well, there
where law enforcement is limited, speeding and drunk driving are common.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Sorry, it's not funny, but it's funny.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
That makes sense, though, with reckless behavior contributing to the
state's poor safety record.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
As another state's.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Many drivers also engage in distracted driving, often using their
phones while on the road. That's number eight of the
worst states for driving in the country. In number seven,
any guesses, probably down South, probably rural state we haven't listed.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I'm starting to detect maybe a correlation with educational rankings.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Oh oh damn, why you gotta go personal, because I'm
looking it up right now. Louisiana. Traffic in the state
often feels unpredictable and risky, with a mix of challenges
making the roads dangerous. Drunk driving incidents. Okay, so let's
just get it out there.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
If you're in the South, there's probably drunk driving, there's
probably distracted driving, there's probably rural it's probably just all bad.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Just don't drive in the South. It's safe for number six.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
South Carolina faces an uphill battle when it comes to
road safety. The state has one of the highest fatality
rates in the country, with speeding and alcohol use among
the top contributing factors.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Sounds like a story we've heard before. Number five Florida.
Can we at least get out of that time zone? Can't?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Taking a drive in Florida often feels like navigating an
obstacle course. Studies consistently highlight high rates of bad driving,
particularly in tourists heavy cities like Orlando and Miami.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Aggressive behavior, speeding, road rage. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Number four of the worst states of drivers in the
country Missouri. Nearly one in five traffic fatalities in Missouri
involves speeding, highlighting their widespread danger on the state's roads.
Aggressive behaviors like tailgating excessive speeding especially common in Saint
(25:35):
Louis and Kansas City, and the rural regions are really bad,
of course.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Number three California. Here, I come right back where we
started from. Oh, ben, up those golden gates to California. California, California, Yeah,
here I.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
How many people do you think you just to swerve
off the road by doing that?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Hopefully not too many, but it wouldn't be unforeseen because California,
LA and San Francisco are notorious for gridlock, where drivers
frequently engage in risky behaviors like weaving through traffic or
speeding during brief openings, or.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Giving we're honners, what's an There's no need for that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Phone use remains one of the leading causes of accidents
in the state on highways like the one oh one
or the five. Reckless lane changes and tailgating are all
too common, adding to the stress of commuting. Coming again,
number three, deep in the Hart of Texas, Texas number three.
(26:43):
Navigating the roads in Texas can be a challenge for
even the most experienced drivers. Fatal crashes are frequent occurrence,
especially in bustling cities like Houston, Dallas, and Austin. Distracted driving,
phone use, yeah, major concerns, major concerns.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Texas was number two. Any guesses for number one? Any one? Anyone?
New York? Stephan, guess did you say Washington?
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Ready?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Not the state of Washington. No Washington? Okay, Mark ronnerd
what southern state? Haven't we mentioned?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You think we're going down south again?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
It's got to be someplace in the South. Okay, here
we go.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Number one, the state with the worst drivers in America,
according to some study. Okay, Stephan, there's no song for this,
but you can spell it M I croocket letter, crookeet letter,
(27:37):
I cricket letter, crooked letter, I hump back, hump back,
I Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Back to the South. Yep, all right, where do I win?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Absolutely nothing? You win nothing, just a full set of teeth.
But you were correct.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
We did go back down south. And yes, that's how
I learned how to spell Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Well done. Still can't spell Massachusetts, but I can spell Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
You got to write out Massachuset. Okay, it's the secret. Uh, Stephan,
pull it up on the computer. Mark you want to
try one more time to spell my richie. Come on now,
you're the news man. We gotta go to break.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
We don't have time for this. Look at the time,
I'll give you a first letter.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
M A S A C H U S E T
T S.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Did he get it right? Okay? Because I can't handle
I'm spell checking like a mug. Now you got to
write it out. You can't do it in your head.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
There's too many, too many letters.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
It's like it's like the King and Ambada is too
many notes. It's got too many notes. You're lucky. We're
up against the break.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
It's later with mo Kelly k if I AM six
forty we Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, and when
we come back, we want to tell you about a
manager who refused to let diners leave unless they tipped
the wait staff.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I wish a mother of father.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Would you're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty Wimbo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
On six Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Mind you,
We've talked any number of times about tipping, and I
have evolved on the subject. I can honestly say I
have evolved. I would say pre pandemic. I was never
(29:23):
one to give a tip for to go order. That's
just like, wait a minute, are you doing this handing
me my food? I was one who would never give
a tip at the counter of fast food, even though
they have this jar out there, like subway in certain
other places. Why would you get a tip for just
doing your job. I was brought up to think that
(29:45):
a tip was going over and above. Now we can
have this convoluted discussion like, well, they're not paid a
living wage, or you should help them out because they
don't make anything but minimum way yea, yeah, yeah, blah,
blah blah. I'm just talking about the principle of tipping.
The tipping was supposed to be over and above. Like
even in a restaurant situ, you can tell when someone
is going over and above.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
They're very attentive. They are tending to your needs.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
If you need water, you need your check, need your dessert, whatever,
they're going over and above have no problem tipping. And
I am a generous tipper. I'm usually around the twenty
percent range. Post pandemic. I just tip everywhere just because
I just I'm really offended. I'm usually going to an eatery,
let's say a dlomma mall on Torrents and there's this
(30:28):
place I love getting food. I'm not going to call
them out, but you know, you make your order and
then they turn around that screen and says, well, the
screen has two questions for you. Yes, I know you
don't want to say, are you going to give us
a tip or not? But it's it's basically shaming us
to give a tip while they stare at you. While
they stare and yes, they're going to judge you. And
it's before you get your food. And it's kind of
(30:50):
an unspoken agreement that if you don't tip, you have
to worry about something happening to your food. That's the
way I look at it. Go ahead and tip, and
I don't want to end up on anyone's shows like, oh, Kelly,
he's a horrible tipper. Okase, I know it. Someone's waiting
for me just so they can say that, And I'm
not going to give anyone the chance to say that.
(31:11):
With all that as a precursor, I came across this
story where a manager at a restaurant refuse to let
a party leave without tipping their waitress. And there's video
of it, but there's so much background noise it doesn't
make sense to play the video.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But the story goes like this.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
A manager was filmed refusing refusing to let an entire
table leave unless they tip their server. I understand when
you go into, let's say, a place like Denny's, you
have a party of eight that's very cumbersome, that's very
difficult for the server to handle.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's usually that server has to go above and beyond.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I think it would be unconscionable not to tip, okay,
because you're asking more of that person than they're supposed
to do for that job, the whole idea of separate
checks and everything, some people still do it and it's
a pain in the end.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Answer to the server, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
But but just because you're an a hole as a
customer does not mean that you are obligated by law
to give someone a tip. And if you, the manager,
stand between me and the door and say that I
cannot leave until I tip the waitress. And if I've decided,
(32:26):
for whatever reasons, that that person is unworthy because it's
my discretion, yes, it's a value system. If I decided
that person is unworthy of my tip and you're standing
between me and the door, I can promise you we
are going to have a misunderstanding and I'm going to win.
By law, the contract is you provide food, I pay
(32:48):
you for that food. I'm not obligated to tip over
and above. Should a person tip absolutely in that situation. Absolutely,
But I'm not required by law, and you're not gonna
hold me hostage. If you get between me and the door.
I'm gonna look at Mark Roter. I want to say, Mark,
go get them. I'm not sure who's side to take
(33:08):
on this. I'm not sure it's yours. You're saying that
you're gonna side with the manager on this.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I can tell you that as a bartender, I stood
on the other side of the bar from from a
guy who waits for me to hand him the quarter
change for his Miller light while he complains it don't
cost as much at the grocery store. Well, then thank
you and go to hell. Sir, all right, but you
got to leave the restaurant to go to hell.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And my point is, if if in that scenario, if
I've paid for the beverage, the tip, even though would
be the polite thing to do, is not a requirement.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
It is.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
If it's a requirement, it should be on the menu,
it should be on the bill, and I should pay
them out on the bill.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Well, maybe we can meet in the middle here and
agree on this. I wouldn't want to hold you in
the restaurant. I would want to tell you not to
come back to the restaurant. Completely fair. I would think
you're wrong in principle because it's not a tip. Then
it's not like I'm disrespecting your weight staff. I mean,
either it's a tip or it's not a tip. A
tip is at my discretion. If it's not at my discretion.
(34:14):
Then it's no longer a tip. And are you saying
it's got to be ten percent? He's got to be
fifteen percent? When do I get to go back to
my car? Well, we have a social contract that you're violating.
You can get all technical all you want, you can
lawyer this to Kingdom. Come, but if you go to
a restaurant and you're served and you leave nothing, that
is a shameful thing to do.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
I agree, we don't disagree.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
But in this particular scenario, the manager is physically imposing himself.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
You're putting his hands on you.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
What's he doing, Well, he's standing between the door and
the customers. He's not allowing the customers to leave they've
paid the bill. He's saying that they have to also
pay the waitress a tip. You don't think that's brave
and chivalrous of him. I think it's dumb. And if
he gets his ass kicked, he deserves it and he
will lose in a court of law.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Incitement. Listen to this incitement, Foosh.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
You know good and well Mark that he has no
legal right to prevent me from leaving the restaurant, especially
if I paid my bill.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Do I need to go down the list of things
in US history that were.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Legal but immral you can call it I moral, But
he doesn't have a legal leg to stand on. I'm
just talking about between now and the ass whooping. There's
no reason, no legal leg that he has.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
To stand on.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
And that is dangerous because if he crosses the wrong
person aka a MOE type or someone who's armed, it's
game over for him.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
That he loses in court every single.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Time for sure. But everything, let's be realistic here. How
bad would the service have had to be for the
waitress to receive zero tip? Well, that's neither here nor there.
This up to the discussion of no very important. Look,
I'm allowed to be an a hole in this hypothetical.
I am not legally required to give anyone a tip.
(36:04):
I am legally required to pay for the food that
I've ordered, but I'm not legally required to give a tip.
That's why restaurants are trying to play this funny game
where they're making this part of.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
The fees, oh, which are included on the bill.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, we had one of those over the weekend, and
that opens a whole nother thing.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
This surcharge.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Right, the surcharge, and that's been debated in law and
everything because they want to make it where you're then
obligated to pay what is on the bill. The tip
is not on the bill. And is that the discretion
of the person who's paying for the meal? And if
I pay for the meal, buy and would that fall
under the junk fees that they're getting rid of. Well,
it's not stated in this scenario.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
It's a tip.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
It's not like, listen, on the bill, you have to
pay the waitress because this was supposed to go directly
to the waitress is not going to the restaurant. So
the manager was saying, you have to pay this to
the waitress. If y'all i'm leaving, well, I've got a
tip for you.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Mo.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
What's that Be a little nicer to your waitresses and
you won't get as many specials.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I had made it very clear I wouldn't do it.
I'm gonna tip anyhow. But if it comes down to
it and someone saying you can't leave the restaurant unless
you tip, well I'm calling the police and I will win.
It's later with Mo Kelly can if I am Since
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