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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Who Doesn't Love Me? Chris Merrill in mean for mo
Kelly a k IF I Am six forty. Listen anytime
on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Uh Mark Supine Runner?
Oh no, what did.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
To bring you in? You know? I heard you play that.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I don't have the clip from Bob Bucher from Do
You have a Handy? And It'll take me just a second,
but from Major League? Because it was so funny when
he when he died. That's what everybody in my office
was saying all day long today.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I go, oh, Bob Buker died. They go, oh did he?
Was he inside? Or was he? Yep?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Still looking give me as that's right. I didn't think
they were very funny. I thought that was very very
poor taste. Oh here we go, here we go. Okay,
see if this all right?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
When he died? Was he inside? And it tastes great?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I must be in the front.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
There you go? All right? Did he die inside or
was he just a bit outside? Was from Major League?
Which was great? Then? Of course? That yeah? The Miller
like commercials, those are hilarious.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
But then he was it was what the third string
catcher or something like that, and Yucker was ninety years old.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
For a lot of people that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I mean, listen, when you're ninety, people who are younger
didn't watch you play baseball. In fact, a lot of
people didn't watch him play baseball, even though are.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Older the guy.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
He didn't. He didn't get in a whole lot. He
had a two hundred batting average his whole life. But
Bob Bob was then what the voice of the Brewers
for fifty years or something, And then of course he
was in Major League, which my first exposure to Bob Buker.
I had probably seen some of those commercials when I
was younger, but I mean I saw Major League.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
When did that come out? Eighty nine? Mark, I, We'll
look it up.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I want to say that's eighty nine, but I do
remember he was pretty much a regular on the late
night shows when I was grown up.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Everybody loved Bob Buker.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So in eighty nine, though, I was eleven and I
watched the Yeah, I watched like the made for TV
version of it, right, because I couldn't watch the full
Major League. I was eleven, but I I never seen
this Bob Bucher. I didn't really know who he was.
I guess again, like I said, maybe I'd seen some commercials.
I wasn't staying up and watching late night, so I
saw him as the announcer who was drinking too much
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during during the Major League. And for the longest time
I thought he was the voice of the of the Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Indians now Guardians. I thought that was his.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
So when I found out he was calling for for
the Brewers, I went, wait a minute, that's not right.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Very confusing for me. I was not a smart child.
Very confusing.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Anyway, passed away age ninety, and I talked with the
guy today who used to run into Bob Buker back
in the early seventies.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
He was a.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And he ran into him at spring training, and he
said he could not have been a nicer guy. And
I love hearing stories where you see somebody that seems
like a nice dude and then you find out that
when they meet a stranger. And at the time, this
guy was caddying at a golf course and Yuker was there,
and he said he couldn't have been a nicer guy.
So I love hearing stories like that. The other stunning
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news today. I didn't see this coming, but I guess
he'd been sick for a little while. Was David Lynch.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
A claimed film director. David Lynch has died. The four
time Oscar nominated filmmaker gave us titles including Blue Velvet,
Maholand Drive, Erase Your Head, Wild at Heart, The Elephant Man,
and the groundbreaking TV series Twin Peaks. Lynch revealed last
year that he had been diagnosed with emphysema. His family
made the announcement via social media, writing quote, there's a
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big hole in the world now that he's no longer
with us. But as he would say, keep your eye
on the doughnut and not on the whole. It's a
beautiful day with golden sunshine and blue skies all the way.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
David Lynch was seventy eight.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
All Right, I'm gonna be honest, Mark, I'm gonna let
you take the lead of this one, because I think
the only David Lynch stuff I'd ever seen was I
saw Mulholland Drive.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I think I saw Elephant Man. Oh, you're killing me.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I saw Eraserhead when I was a teenager on a
double Bill with a Night of a Living Dead, and
I think it screwed me up for life. I was
disoriented for days after that. I interviewed David Lynch in Seattle,
I think around two thousand and seven, and it was
really funny because he was nuts like you would expect,
but I mean nuts in the most glorious way. He
was a lot of fun, He was smart, and he
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didn't expect me to kind of screw with him a
little bit. I think it was for the movie of
his called Inland Empire, which is just incomprehensible. And I
don't mean that as an insult, because I think most
of his things were even incomprehensible to him, but in
an artistic, wonderful way. You're never going to get an
AI that can do David Lynch. So anyway, we're sitting
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at this table in a hotel having coffee at the
time that he was reputed to drink up to like
twenty cups of coffe for a day, and I tell him,
you know what's missing from this new movie of yours
and he kind of gives me a little irritated.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Oh yeah, everybody's a critic, right, yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And I go a dancing dwarf and he goes, no, really,
come on, no, no, but no dancing. He got over
it really quick. He was trying to sell me on
trans transcendental meditation. That was always his big thing. Okay, right,
pardon me. And at the end of the interview, I
swear to god he made me go up to his
hotel room and meditate with his assistant. And there was
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nothing sexual about it. I know you want to say.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
There was no. That's remarkable, and you did.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
I did, yeah, And I actually kind of got something
out of it, but not enough to keep doing it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I've never done the transidental meditation. Is that? Is that
the old sitting underknees thing?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Or is it you don't have you silently repeat a
mantra to yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Okay, and then you just kind of get into his
own And it never did much for me, but but
people swear by it. Right.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
The Elephant Man is that the one that had Anthony
Hopkins in it, That's the one with the.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
That's the way John Merrick.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I think mel Brooks produced that and uh and did
a stellar job of keeping the studio suits from from interfering.
Elephant Man is is magnificent it's wonderful. That is I
am not an animal thing. Yes, okay, yeah, I did
see that, and he did. He did that terrific version
of done that didn't put people to sleep.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, but it was kind of a flop, wasn't it.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I didn't do as well as everybody had hoped, but
it was an artist did that again.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It was nuts in the best possible way. Uh.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I love everything he's ever done, Lost Highway, all of it.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
In fact, the transcendental meditation thing makes a lot of
sense to me. Well, he was kind of tapping into
a very creative place because he can. We doubt that
he was one of the most creative directors we'll ever see.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
There was nobody like him. He was a complete one off.
How does somebody get a movie made a film made
if they are kind of like that. Well, there are
stories of him keeping studio executives from interfering with his stuff.
For instance, I just read before we went on the
air somebody from the studio had come to oversee a
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day of production and Lynch Zero is right in on
the guy and says, you've got a great face. I
want you in this picture. And he sends the guy
off to air and makeup for the whole day at
the same time appeasing the guy's vanity and keeping him
from messing around with what he was doing.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Oh, that is so funny. He was brilliant.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
That's really good. I love that anyway, he seventy eight.
We don't do cause of death, do we. Well, he
had the emphysema, and so we already knew that he
was probably essentially retired when he made that announcement. Yeah, okay,
all right, seventy eight's a good run. He's going to
be around forever. And I'll tell you, even the extras
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on the DVDs of his work that have come, I
spent what forty five minutes watching him put together a
lamp and talking while he did it. He's just a
phenomenally entertaining, brilliant guy.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I love that. Good story. Thanks, Mark, appreciate that. I'm
here for you.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Look at me being nice to you now because I'm
afraid of whatever retribution you're gonna have after our last segment.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
It's coming and you're not going to see it.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Oh all right, more, there's no business like including Oscars
no more.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
We'll find out. That's next.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
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Speaker 2 (08:43):
I'm Chris Marrilyn from o Kelly Listen anytime on demand
of the iHeartRadio app Majestic. I thought that was majestic.
Looks like the oscars are up in the air right now. Well,
if you believe the Sun, British tabloid, the Sun is
usually full of crap, but there might be an iota
of truth to this. The official Academy Award Committee is
monitoring the wildfire situation daily, they say, and don't worry
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because stars are aware of the situation. Again, this is
the Sun reporting. They include Tom Hanks, Emmistone, Meryl Streep,
and Steven Spielberg. See what happened is they took some
the biggest names that are on the committee and then
they attached the story and decision to them. So evidently
Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg and Emmastone and Meryl Streep
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are all sitting in a room together and trying to
figure out if they're going to go forward with the
Academy Awards.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I beat Merrill, Oh, thank you. They say.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
The feeling is it could be in bad taste to
go ahead with the glitzy bash of the Oscars when
dozens of people have died and thousands are left homeless,
and Insider said, the board's main concern at this time
is not to look like they're celebrating while many Los
Angelinos are dealing with heartbreak and unimaginable loss. And certainly,
even if the fires went out next week, the reality
(10:02):
is that the city is still hurting.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
We'll be dealing with that pain for months. It's gonna
be more than months. It is going to be more
than months. How long do you think before we recover
and we talk about these fires as a piece of history,
not a piece of our lives.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Well, the years at least, I mean what three four
two three four.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I mean it's gonna be not just rebuilding, but infrastructure.
There's gonna be new there will be new code. I'm
gonna guess that the the what is it?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
The ember resistant vents are going to become mandatory in California.
Dean Sharp was talking with Tim Conway Junior about this
earlier tonight, and he was talking about the the the
vents that you have in your house that go in
the in the softs or on the if you have
a crawl space, they might go around the crawl space
because the house has to have ventilation, has to have
airflow through it, but that's where the embers get into
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the house and the fires kick up.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I'm going to say that those are going to be
mandatory in building code in California in the not so
distant future. Kind of surprised that they're not already.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
We may see some retrofitting that goes on, and then
what are we doing as far as fire hydrants at
higher elevations.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You're no longer in a position in this state to
be able to say that, assuming you have one or
two structures catching on fire, and you have enough pressure
to fight one or two structures, is enough. I mean,
this is what DWP is fighting right now, is trying
to figure out what they do in the future because
we don't want any more stories of hydrants running dry.
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And what happened was when the fire departments are tapping
all of the hydrants at once through justice and enough pressure,
and especially at the higher elevations. Lower elevations still had
some pressure, but the higher elevations did not. So you know,
there's gonna be some changes. So the idea that we're
only going to be dealing with this for a few
months is I think even more short sighted.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
More than one hundred thousand residents forced to flee, eighty
eight thousands still under evacuation orders.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
This is the story that they published a few days
ago though, So.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Anyway, so now they're putting together a contingent strategy put
in place for the oscars, which are scheduled from March third.
They say the ceremony could be called off. Would they
call off the oscars? Do you think I could see that?
Do you think so just just not have them for
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a year and then what roll them all into the
next one?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Yea, I mean they did that well, they had to
with the pandemic with COVID, right yeaeah.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I don't know, man, that's uh, I guess I guess
they could.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
It just seems because just just to play Devil's out
of and we see they aren't suffering terribly. But you know,
then on the other side there's people that like kind
of a distraction.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
That's where I was going next. Ye okay, I think
you're exactly right. That's the only argument I could see
going to like broadcast it. Could they still do the Oscars,
but maybe not from here. Oh yeah, maybe they moved
to New York or something and they do it, you know,
from from there.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Oh, you got to do it from here.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
And I think there's an argument to be made for
people carrying on and regrouping and showing that they they're
not going to be beaten down by that.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I did too.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
But also, I mean it's kind of like, you know,
the Rams game that moved to Phoenix last weekend or Monday.
I guess that it's like, you don't want to look
like you're celebrating distraction is fine, And I know there
were a lot of people that welcomed the distraction of
watching the Rams. I bet people were watching the Rams
that didn't watch football the rest of the year just
because they wanted something else to focus on for a night.
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But you know, they didn't do it here because they
didn't want to look like, Hey, everybody, come party with
us while your house is burning in The NFL obviously
wants to be able to put out a big show
in kind of a party atmosphere. I think the Oscars
want that too, but you think it has to be here, Mark,
so I think, uh, people, people want to see Angelino's
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succeed after they've been through so much, don't you think, Yeah,
I do.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I do in the same way that everybody was all
for New York after September eleventh. I mean, this isnt
September eleventh, but you know, this is a pretty big disaster,
and I think we all want to pull together and
we want to we want to wish people well in
the face of disaster.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
But it's a tough needle to thread because you also,
like right now, especially, you don't want to see celebrities,
you know, in self congratulation out, nothing at all wrong
with giving it a little pause, and you know, maybe
they'll postpone them, maybe they'll decide to post upon them
later than March.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Okay, but yeah, I think I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
You see Megan Markle, she delayed her Netflix was a
cooking show or something because the damn the luck.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Well, but I think wasn't it Meghan McCain that said
it was in bad taste that she was doing her
cooking show And now she's like, oh, I can't handle
the fall out. So they've postponed the launch of the
cooking show on Netflix because they didn't want to seem insensitive,
and I thought, Okay, I don't know how many people
were tying those two together.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Maybe there's more that story. I don't know. Yeah, that
just seems like a bit of a stretch. Yeah, I agree. Hey,
good news, Roner.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
It sounds like you're gonna be able to watch the
super Bowl on your two b over at your place.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Absolutely, come on over. Fox is going to stream the
super Bowl on to BE.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I guess that's for people that don't have access to
Fox otherwise, whether they don't have the antenna or they
don't have another streaming service that includes the local channels.
Fox is going to make the super Bowl available on
to B to be coming up in the world after
just a bunch of old, obscure cult movies. That's impressive.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
My understanding is that to be is saw a major boost.
What they said is that a very credible newsman on
a very high profile news radio station talked about them incessantly.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
You can do a forensic audit of my bank account. Yeah,
you will find no suspicious deposits from tub No. I
think it just has to do with your absolute love
and people are really turned on to tub now. It
is terrific. I'm not exaggerating. It's life changing. I know you,
I know you love the old stuff. What else has got?
What else is on to me?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Do they? Is it just basically old movies and TV
shows that you can find whatever they can get cheap. Yeah,
that's how they make money. Do they run ads?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
They do have ads, but they're not a critical amount.
It's a reasonable amount of ads. You can live with it.
Oh okay, Well, let's like for all the other services
that I pay for, I get the I get the
ads supported services, right, So, I mean like my Amazon
has ads now and my Hulu has ads now, so
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I'm kind of used to it. As long as there
we don't get back to those five and seven minute
breaks like you have on table and network TV.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
I just can't handle. So it's it's streaming in addition
to Fox. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah. Fox is allowing the rights now.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
They're not going to let other games on there, So
don't expect that you're going to see the other playoff
games or anything else. It's not like all of a
sudden Fox has struck a deal with two B that
they're going to run away with it. But I guess
Fox was supposed to be part of that. What is
it called venue?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Was that the one that they were working on that
was I think it was Fox and Disney and Warner
and they were all trying to put together like a
sports streaming service and then it just fell apart, and
so I think Fox was sort of scrambling saying, where
can we offer this as a streaming alternative?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
And so they're going to do that, well, you know
where they're going to make their.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Moneies on the advertising, although when it comes to the
Super Bowl advertising, there's one that you're not going to
see on two B or anywhere else. You'll find out
what that is next.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I wanted to talk about that TikTok band just a
little bit. But before we get into that, I may
mention that Mark will have the opportunity to watch the
Super Bowl on two BE. He's very excited that what
are the odds to be crashes from everybody trying to
watch on that service.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I have normally eat faith in two being. They can
do no wrong.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
It's like it's like you and like six other weirdos
in Arkansas that watch.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Tube, right, you're out of your mind. Everybody loves to
be everybody loves it. This is coming from the guy
who only bings things. Now, I don't google anymore. I
only bing. It's me and those same six guys that
marketing's out with on tub. I was gonna say, you're
the he's to to be what you are to bing.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
You made that sound like an sat thing, and I
hope that's very confusing. However, you know, when it comes
to tech and sports, one game is being streamed this
weekend and it's got sports fans very upset. And that
is that if you want to watch the Steelers Ravens game,
you have to watch it on Amazon Prime. And people
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are mad because they're going, look, the NFL will just
put up another paywall to see a playoff game, and uh,
and I get that. Last year there was a game
that was only on Peacock. If you wanted to watch
the playoff game, you had to have a subscription of Peacock. Now,
I got the I did the one week trial, and
then I canceled it right after by the way, right
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before Christmas.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
This year, Peacock had a they had a deal. It
was two dollars a month for the first year. Yeah,
so I went ahead and signed up for that. And
I've been watching a lot of Peacock lately. Kind of
nice opening up a new library and what I love.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I thought Peacock was just you know, all the NBC
Network shows, they just put them over there. That's not
the case. They've got a lot of original programming, which
is pretty good. But anyway, the football game is only
gonna be on Amazon Prime, and people are livid. I
don't blame them for that. Now I have Prime, I'm
going to watch the game, but I definitely understand why
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people are upset that. My god, I gotta have I.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Gotta have Peacock, I gotta have Paramount, I gotta have Prime,
I have to.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Have Netflix had games on Christmas Day.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
It's like, I know why all of these different companies
are paying the big bucks to the NFL to do this.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I know why the NFL is taking all of that
money because they're greedy. But who ultimately gets boned on
all of this.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
This is the people that want to.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
See it, our grandfathers and dads. Yeah, yeah, it's it's frustrating.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Me.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
I mean, that's why I like that idea of whatever's
I don't know this playoffs, but Fox and two be
like something like that, like, oh okay, let's do Peacock
and NBC like just let them have at least the option.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's what I would think, Except what NBC is trying
to do or or they were last year, was to
drive people to their streaming service Amazon of course, trying
to get people to subscribe. Now in Pittsburgh and Baltimore,
there are there's a local station in each market that
is going to carry the game, so the locals will
be able to see it. But anybody that is not
local to Pittsburgh or Baltimore won't be able to see
this game unless they have Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
This you know, this weekend.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
So I don't right now. The NFL is such a
leviathan when it comes to entertainment. I don't know if
they can be hurt by this sort of thing. I mean,
people are going to complaint. I get it, and I
think the complaints are well founded. It just don't know
that it matters to them.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
I don't know that there will be an impact on
the overall acceptance of the most popular sport in America
right now.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I mean that would be like soccer in England, like.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
People will go wherever it is because that's what they do,
you know, so kind of what we do here too
when it comes to football.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I understand the frustration.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Meanwhile, if you are watching the Super Bowl maybe on
Tooby Mark, yeah, you will not be seeing the State
Farm ad this year.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
It's like a good neighbor the cut.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
State Farm has just announced it's pulled its new Super
Bowl commercial due to the devastating Los Angeles fires. Last
year's commercial was a huge hit with viewers, featuring actors
Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger, who plays an insurance agent
saving pats from a family's home that's going up in flames.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Like a good neighbor State Farm there today.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Boy DeVito's having a hell of a moment, isn't he.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
He is everywhere right now. Well he deserves it. I agree.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
He's one of those guys that I you know, he's
eighty wow, yeah, and he's doing really well.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
He's great.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
And I was thinking, that's funny he said that, because
I was like, man, I've seen him way more than normal.
But because yeah, the only thing I've seen him on
because I love the show. Is it's always sunny. Yes,
so he's been there for I mean a thousand years,
but like now he's all of a sudden just going
everywhere else everywhere.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's great.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
A State Farm announced our focus is firmly on providing
support to the people of Los Angeles. We will not
be advertising during the game as originally planned.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, you know, State Farm is just they're just avoiding
the memes. That's because they canceled a bunch of people
last year. So they canceled a bunch of policies and
then all hell breaks loose. The football game that we
mentioned in the last segment that I went to Phoenix
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on Monday was played at State Farm Stadium, So State
Farm somehow benefited after all of the fires.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
And it's just not a good look. And they know
exactly what the internet. The Internet would crucify them. Whatever
the ad is, people would be pulling stills and making
memes out of it for weeks and State Farm doesn't
want that.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
They don't want that.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
The insurance giant faced criticism last year after it declined
to renew seventy two thousand policies in California due to
the wildfire rist. It now says it will offer policy
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there's a new threat in fire ravage Los Angeles.
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What is it?
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This hillside home survived the devastating Pacific Palace.
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Now they move out to the story about the home
that broke into like a KitKat. Mark had that in
his news the Uh, I don't.
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Know what I got confused?
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Is it sounded like the guy was broadcasting from inside
a beehive?
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It did, didn't it?
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Yea year after it declined to renew seventy two thousand
policies in California.
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Dude to the wildfire risk. Is that like a drone
going on behind him or something?
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What else?
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Was I I haven't seems like I had something else
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Okay, I'm done with that one. Uh, let's talk TikTok.
We got time. I'm running late on this.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Let me let me talk TikTok here in the next segment,
because it looks like the TikTok ban could last upwards
of thirty six hours. My god, what will the eighteen
year olds do?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
That is next you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly
on demand from KFI, A six forty.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Big news, big news that is set to wreck social
media as soon as TikTok is torn down. Now, as
TikTok goes away, people are finding alternatives to TikTok. The
problem is the alternatives ti TikTok are also owned by Chinese companies,
including one that's owned by byte Edance.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
But we're not banning them. We're banning TikTok.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Can't say, ah, kids, I'm a big fan of the
isolated band. I mean, why is TikTok the target? Because
obviously they're the largest. That's it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
It's not about Chinese companies. It's about banning the most
high profile thing. And remember this started. Trump was out
there saying, oh, we have to ban TikTok. They're terrible,
it's a threat. The chi coms are going to steal
all of our information. And there was this big national
security brew haha. Well now that he's coming back, yeah,
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and he goes actually, TikTok's okay.
Speaker 9 (26:06):
I'm could be running out for TikTok. The app now
considering a total shutdown for American users if that band
goes into effect on Sunday, But there are still last
minute efforts underway right now to save the app for
US users. NBC News learning Biden Winehouse officials are looking
for ways to keep TikTok available even if the band
goes into effect. Also, justin TikTok ceo show Too has
(26:30):
now accepted an invitation to attend President elect Trump's inauguration.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Huh.
Speaker 9 (26:34):
That's the day after the band is set to go
into effect.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Okay, so we're going to ban TikTok, but then the
CEO of TikTok is going to be at the inauguration.
Well yeah, because that because you know, it's not that
it's not that he is trying to win favor with
the incoming president.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Because he's not part of the parent company. You see, he's.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Not part of the he's not the it's it's the Chinese.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Okay, all right, we used to be very be very
selective when it comes to who we want to target.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Doesn't it go ahead?
Speaker 6 (27:15):
I was just saying, you're one hundred percent right, not
to take away from TikTok. But like when Uber and
Lyft first started to gain momentum, all they did was
complain about, oh, they're bad drivers or this, But then
people who were using it would hit back at them, saying,
I've been in a taxi several times and I've thought
I was gonna die.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Oh my gosh. Yes, So yeah, they always attack whoever's
whoever's right.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Nobody cared about Walmart until Walmart was the biggest American retailer.
We didn't worry about Amazon until Amazon was big enough
that they had that they were affecting others.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Now, there is a difference between being a monopoly obviously,
like like Google may have to break some things up
because they say it's monopolistic.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
That's a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
But also when it comes to TikTok, there are plenty
of competitors, including Dan seems like there's a social media
app out there that was I mean, it was worth
like forty four billion dollars at one point, and then
somebody bought it, and then it seems like that somebody
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now seems to have a lot of influence over the government.
And also there are rumors that that same somebody might
actually buy TikTok.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
That would ben It's nah, that would never come to fruition.
Speaker 9 (28:33):
Nis is the Wired senior writer and joining us now
with more on this Kate. We've heard a couple of
possibilities for what could happen if this band goes into effect.
But we're also learning that people are waiting around. They're
already jumping to new platforms.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Lemonade, Oh, Lemonade, that must be Beyonce's new.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Platform, red Book.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
What do we know about those moves, those platforms, and
are they really any less risks?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Wasn't hang on, It wasn't red Book like a magazine
for old ladies.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, you'll find that in the dentist office. That's what
I thought in the nineties, right, I think so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
So those platforms have really spiked in popularity since people
realized that the TikTok ban was likely really happening, and
Lemonade is actually also owned by Byte Dance.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
So huh, that's weird, but they're not banned.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Any giant migration there will likely be short lived because
that would also be affected by this band. Red Book
is actually another Chinese video and photo sharing app, and
it's experienced a massive surge in popularity, like over seven
hundred thousand Americans have joined, which is impressive because it's
largely in Mandarin. And it's just I think evidence that
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Americans are quite keen to stay on foreign owned social
platforms if they like what they're doing over there.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's a little odd, isn't it that people are looking
for a replacement to TikTok, which obviously Zuckerberg thought they
were all going to come over to Insta and Musku
is trying to figure out how he can capitalize on
it and all this kind of stuff. But people are
going to another Chinese owned app and it's predominantly written
in Mandarin, but Americans are using it. I mean, isn't
(30:15):
that basically seven hundred thousand Americans flipping the bird to
the government and this ban they would rather deal with
a foreign app that's in Mandarin than to use any
of the other American alternatives, not because it's easier, but
because they're basically saying screw you.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Unanswered questions about TikTok, for instance, I'm not sure everybody
remembers Trump tried to ban it during his first term
and he changed his mind. In fact, PolitiFact gave him
a rating of full flop on TikTok, and nobody has
really ever satisfactorily answered the question about why he changed
his mind. Some people say it's just because he was
(30:57):
going with public opinion during the election.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
A part of that obviously, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Other people say it's that he met with a wealthy
donor who owns a lot of TikTok, but he's denied that.
But Steve Bannon was flaeing those accusations around. There's a
lot we still don't know. And on top of that,
we had discussed this for a short time last night.
The damage done by Twitter and and by Facebook meta
(31:25):
in terms of people's privacy and violating it and disinformation,
there's no reason to single out TikTok when all of
them are doing terrible things to us.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I think the only argument you can make, though, is
that these other ones are American owned companies. And if
they're American owned companies, then while they might be taking
our personal information, they wouldn't be using it against national
security interests, just personal security interests.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
And that's okay.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It's okay to sell somebody's personal information as long as
it doesn't affect the government.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
See. So that's the big difference. Mark. You gotta you
gotta look uh, you gotta look out for number one here.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Well, one could argue that if one we're so inclined.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
The New York Times says that Trump came to see
how well his videos about him performed on TikTok, and
his advisors credited it with helping him to expand his
reach to a new type of voter during the campaign.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
So he may like.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
It because it helped with his election. Anyway, he says
he might issue an executive order to circumvent the TikTok band.
So evidently we're not worried about national security any longer,
so long as the Trump videos are performing well, God
bless America. All right, I'm back tomorrow night. Thank you
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