January 24, 2025 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the latest SoCal wildfire updates AND growing concerns regarding “toxic ash, and chemicals lingering in air” … PLUS – Thoughts on the latest recall effort aimed at Gov. Newsom - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
KFI. Mister Kelly here, it's Later with Mo Kelly. We're
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Got some show notes
to let you know. Next Friday, not tomorrow, but a
week from today, we will have our very special co host.
You may remember back during pastathon, you have the opportunity
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to co host an episode of Later with Mo Kelly
on a Friday, maybe even run the name that movie
called Classic Game Choose.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The movies have.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
All sorts of fun talk about anything that you want
to talk about, whatever's going on in the world, entertainment, politics,
what have you. Well, our co host for next Friday,
Friday Week, Paul Berry, will be joining us in studio
next Friday, and I can't tell you what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'm going to be writing Shotgun on my own show
all three hours. Matter of fact, we'll talk to him
tomorrow off air, you know, go over some show prep notes,
getting him ready to become a full bonified KFI radio professional.
So that's going to be Friday week, and we're still
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ironing out some other details.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm out switching gears.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
We hope to have Grammy nominated musician Corey Henry in studio.
If you know anything about this piano and keyboard prodigy,
you're in for a treat.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
He should be joining us in studio on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I say that fingers crossed tentatively speaking, because I feel
like I jinxed myself whenever I talk about any type
of interview in advance. But you would be in for
a treat. Can't wait for that. And if you wonder, Mo,
why are you so energetic? Why are you such a
good mood? Because we finally have some rain coming, hopefully
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not too much for my folks in Altadena, but we
have We do have some rain, which hopefully will alleviate
a lot of these fires. All right, Marna, let us
have it, tell us give us the good dudes.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well, you really hope it's not a monkey's pause situation
that you're familiar with that story at all. Okay, So
the way it's looking right now, we were do for
some rain Friday that has been amended. These things change
on the fly. Now Saturday we got a thirty percent
chance of rain during the day, and then it's looking
like more of a sure thing at night. Rain Sunday
and possibly Monday as well. So if three days arragin
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possible in our future. I hope it's just the right amount,
like the Three Bears story, just the right amount, not
too much, not too little, just right, just enough to
spit those fires the rest of the way out and
not cause any mud slides.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Hopefully.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You know we're due for some good news, just a
little bit of good news.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You think.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It doesn't have to be perfect news, doesn't have to
be great news. I'm just asking for good news. I
think we've earned it. I think people in southern California
deserve it. We need a respite from all the bad news.
And that's part of the reason why tonight we're gonna
lean into some fun tonight.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I think we've all had enough.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
News where we can also weave in some fun. Now,
don't get us wrong, we're still going to follow the fires.
We're gonna still make sure that you are informed with
what's going on if there should be a new fire,
which should come about, which is a distinct possibility, because
that's something California these days, but we're going to make
sure that you have this information when it's necessary. You're
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not going to miss anything by listening to KFI. Mark
Roner is going to be on it. We have other
individuals in our intrepid news staff, Brian low who's going
to be honest. So we will have all sorts of
information for you as it arises, and we'll give it
to you as it makes sense. So don't think that
we're diminishing the impact or the importance of the fires.
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We're just also going to have a little bit of
fun tonight because I don't know about you. I don't
know about you, but it's time to laugh a little,
just a bit.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I remember fun I do. It seems so distant, doesn't it.
It seemed like it was so long ago.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Kind of was because we were doing those five hour shifts,
so it just seemed longer ago than usual.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, it's been about two weeks as of yesterday, hasn't it.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yes, yeah, about two weeks. There is legitimate news that
we will be covering tonight. We'll tell you about how
residents have been very concerned over the toxic ash and
the chemicals lingering in the air all over southern California.
That impacts everyone, whether you were in an evacuated zone
or not.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And there is a new recall effort.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's almost like the sun coming up which is targeting
Governor Gavin Newsom and exciting California's rising costs and policies.
I'll tell you about that. And I know that a
lot of folks do not like Governor Gavin Newsom. He
is not very popular in certain segments, but but he
wins overwhelmingly here in California. And this probably will be
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the sixth attempt at getting him recalled.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Oh no, it's more than that. I think they've had
eight so far. Okay, all right, then I underestimate it.
I can, I can check this.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, let's get that, because that's going to be part
of my remarks. I mean, if the first seven times
weren't successful, and you were never close, never close.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
According to our own KFI records, Newsom has survived eight
previous recalls.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okay, so this is number nine. So we both undershot it.
This will be number nine. Who knows? Maybe you know, Look,
I remember when I was a very young, strapping gentleman,
and I said, look, maybe the ninth time is the
charm when I ask her out, Maybe the ninth time
she'll view me differently and she'll say yes to me.
Who knows. Hope spring's eternal, But that'll come up a
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little bit later. We'll talk about Governor Gavin Newsom and
the latest effort to recall him. So much to cover tonight,
we're gonna have a little bit of fun. Of course,
we'll have a lot of news, because that's what's most important.
But as long as we're here together, it's going to
be enjoyable. It's Later with mo Kelly if I am
six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I want you to walk back in time with me
to the mid nineteen seventies Los Angeles specifically, oh, just
southern California more generally. I remember as a kid, and
it didn't matter if it were winter or summer. Felt
it definitely much more in summer, but I remembered it
year round.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I remember going.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
To school and we'd have these like smag alert days
where we couldn't go out on the playground for recess,
serious stuff, and it was a real thing, have these
smog alert days. Kids couldn't go outside and play, not
at school at least or during the summer. You go
outside and play, and if you were old enough to
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be able to get on, or if your parents would
take you somewhere like down the one tied Free where
you could see downtown.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
There was this.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Brown haze just hanging over the city. We called that
normal everyday life. The air quality was horrible here in
southern California, and I remember my friends who had asthma,
not frequently, but there were times they would have these
bad asthma attacks. They'd be taken to the hospital. Or
if you were playing as a kid outside all day,
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your chest would start hurting from just breathing in the
bad air quality.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
No exaggeration, You're not exaggerating.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
During the times that I lived here briefly as a child,
I would have gasping attacks where all I could do
is lie on the couch and just yeah. And of
course my mom didn't take me to a doctor or anything.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
They just passed. But Di'd say it was no joke.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But we took that as being normal, regular. That was
acceptable back in the day. And if you're not old
enough to remember that, you may not understand how egregious
it was. We just didn't know, or you can say
government was taking a blind eye. But now, many decades later,
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and you have an event just like the fires, and
for me, it takes me back to that because you
get to see it is much more concentrated. Of course,
you have the ash on your car or on your house,
you can see it falling in the air. It's a
little bit better now until we have another major fire
and it's almost like you start all the way over
and it goes out for tens and dozens of miles,
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not like you have to be right next to an
evacuation zone or a fire zone for you to fill
the ill effects of this air. And I'm one of
the many residents who's very concerned about this toxic ash,
the chemicals lingering in the air. And it's something that
we may not actively be thinking about, but it is
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actively impacting us directly every single day.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Now. This is the EPA quote.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
During a wildfire or other combustion related activities, concentrations of
particles can substantially increase in the air to the point
that particle pollution is visible to the naked eye. Yes,
we see this, but it goes on again. This is EPA.
This level of smoke of pollution that's in the air,
the ash, the chemicals can irritate our lungs and upper airways. Yes,
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Now the question is how long will we be dealing
with this type of air pollution? And it's not something
you can hide from. Twalla Sharp was telling you about, Hey,
he's gonna wear his N ninety five mask. I have
not gotten to the point of wearing the N ninety
five mask. Maybe I should, honestly, maybe I should. But
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it's something that we should be very cognizant of as
far as to my word, horrible air quality, and it's
something we took for granted in southern California many many
years ago. We're older now, we're smarter now, hopefully we're
more knowledgeable now and informed. We should do better now,
if only to protect ourselves, protect our children. And I know,
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I know you maybe be that person who say I'm
not ever gonna wear a mask. Okay, God bless you,
that's your choice. But also no, going back to the
nineteen seventies, there was a cost to that.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I can't tell you in a scientific sense how many
people had lung issues growing up directly related to small
I can't tell you who possibly got lung cancer or
who had respiratory illnesses and diseases later on in life.
I can't tell you that it was absolutely unhealthy, especially
over a long period of exposure, and we had to
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do better for the sake of everyone.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
The air quality.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Just talk to someone who's over the age of maybe
forty five, like I don't think.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Stephan, do you remember anything about the small days? Did
you have that growing up? Not that I really remember.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Now, Yeah, Mark, did you have anything like that? And
you said when you visited, But I didn't know what
the air quality was like up in Washington. Well, we
had the explosion of Mount Saint Helen's while I was
also two. I was in that territory. I forget the
exact year. So I lived here briefly when I was
a kid, and that's when I used to have the
gasping attacks. I lived in LA but then you know,
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out of here and up to Washington with a volcano promptly,
so I got good timing. I remember we were studying
that in class as it was happening, because there was
a lead up to the eruption of Mount Saint Helen's
and you know, in science class we would study stuff
like that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
We did have any internet.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
All we had was broadcast television, very limited direct exposure
to the news surrounding it.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But it was something that we did study in class. Well,
let me tell you, it was like snow had fallen everywhere.
There was ash everywhere. From months and years after that,
it got in and on everything, and you did not
want to say, go jogging in the ash.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And I don't want to be macab and I want
to be very respectful of this. We all know what
the ash looked like in nine to eleven. We all
know the long term impact of that ash. We know
that people died many years later because of that ash.
So it's something that we should be aware of and
not dismissed just because it's sunny skies outside. It was
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visually a beautiful day, it was, but we do know
that the air quality is still subpar. It's still less
than what it was, and we have these relatively new
fires just about every day. They may not all be
the size of Pacific Palisades or Eaten Canyon, but obviously
the one, the huge fire, was pretty sizable comparatively speaking,
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and that has com consistently and continuously made our air
I would say, on just on this side of dangerous.
And we know that These toxic chemicals can linger in
the air for not only days, but even weeks. Hear
me now, even weeks after a wildfire has been extinguished
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after and we haven't even extinguished all these wildfires. We're
not even at day one after the fires have ended.
So if today, as in January twenty third, were day one,
our air quality is going to be impacted, for what
we know of, for weeks well into February, even if
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all the fires were extinguished.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Today you always see news of some fitness freak out
jogging in the middle of a catastrophic flood or whatever
is going on. I think better safe than sorry is
a good thing to keep in mind for what's going
on right now.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, and I think we lull ourselves into a false
sense of security. He's well, and because we may not
be able to perceive the toxicity of the air, it's like, well,
I'm not having trouble breathing. That goes back to what
I was talking about growing up as a kid, you
play it outside all day and then at the end
of the day you realize that your breathing has impacted
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or your your chest is hurting. You may not know
it in the moment the damage that we're doing to
ourselves right now may not avail itself in the moment.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
No, you don't need to book Louis Pasteur as a
guest to understand that some things we can't seek and
really hurt us. So he went, Louis Pasteura, I pa
like the pastor of card I'm sorry. Look in the
age of raw milk too. Yes, I hear you. That's
a whole nother thing right there. I am there with you.
But don't run outside wild chug and raw milk.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I will say this, but it has been something that's
been actively on my mind. I think about it as
far as walking my dogs. We have air pure fires
in the house, Yeah we do too. Yeah, we're actively
conscious of this, and we know that it's not just
the fires. It's not just the fires that we can
see on TV. It's not just the fires that have
been put out. Thank you to all the first responders
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and firefighters who have done such a wonderful job protecting
lives and also property. That it's all the things that
we can't see, that we don't know, and that are
going to linger at least until February, maybe March, depending
on how much longer we're dealing with these mass fires.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Air filters rather make a big difference, and I'm glad
you brought those up. You can get them on Amazon.
It takes five minutes to do research. They're more affordable
than you would think. I bought one at Costco for
like one hundred and thirty bucks. We use it all
the time. Those are very hell helpful, not just for
the fire smoke, but for COVID and they're just good
things to have on hand.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I didn't realize how much of a difference they can
make until my wife went wild and bought like three
of them and put them all over the house. And
you immediately noticed the difference you do.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
And I'm constantly reading as well about the difference they
make in schools and office buildings.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
They're good to have. It's later with mo Kelly when
we come back.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
We're going to talk about this most recent recall effort,
which is targeting Governor Newsom. And I'm here to tell
you this is not a political statement, but I'm here
to tell you don't get your hopes up because the
first nine times didn't yield the result that you might
have wanted. The tenth time is not, I'm here to
tell you, is not going to yield any different result.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We'll tell you why when we come back.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
There's a new effort, of course, against Governor Gavin Newsom.
I know you can't stand the guy. In fact, full disclosure,
I don't like him either. I've never voted for him,
never have never supported him. There's some things that I
know that I can't say on the air, or shouldn't
say on the air.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
But I will say.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
This, this recall effort, regardless of how much you may
personally agree with it, or how politically agreeable it may
be for you, it's not going to go anywhere. I mean,
you may get the requisite signatures and get it on
the ballot, and there may have a special recall election
like they've had in previous years, but it's not going
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to go anywhere. It's not going to lead to him
being ousted. It's not going to lead to someone like
Larry Elder like last time, becoming governor. I'm just telling you,
let's skip to the end. I'm telling you how the
story ends. Quote under the reign of Governor Newsom. Living
in California has become impossible for average people through years
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of poor Paul which have increased the cost of living,
increased crime, increased drug use and homelessness, increase the cost
of burden on small businesses and communities, while decreasing our
professional standards, education standards, the disappearance of billions of taxpayers
dollars to fail pet programs, and our public services. That
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comes from Randy Economy, the group's founder who is behind
this effort. I know Randy very well. We have done
on air radio work together. I would call him a
friend and we can reach out to each other anytime.
I've had him on not this show, I've had him
on the mo Kelly Show a number of times, and
what I'm saying right now is what I've said to
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him personally, professionally, politically, and not to be too cynical,
even though I can be very cynical, but I know
why these recall efforts happen, and a lot of times
they aren't to be successful, but to possibly damage a politician.
People don't necessarily know that it's the umpteenth time that
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there was a recall effort, Usually in the minds of voters,
they're not paying that close attention, so they just hear, oh, governor,
Governor Gavin Newsom is being recalled or there's a recall
effort against him. Why why anytime, it's about presenting him
in a way which makes him less attractive on a
national level. Now, because let's be honest, we know that
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he is probably probably the Democratic front runner for president
in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Probably is.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
There's probably no one with more name recognition on a
national level who has not already run for president or
who does not have more baggage. It's Gavin Newsom's to lose.
Like him or loathe him. If you're not a Democrat yet,
of course you're not voting for him. I'm just saying
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within Democratic circles, he's probably the front runner. And in
the way that you want to make sure that your
preferred candidate has the best chance to win in twenty
twenty eight, whoever it is, you damn sure want to
make sure that you try to damage as much as
possible the presumptive front runner of the party that you
don't like.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
This is more of that.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
If you are and I told you about this with
Steve Garvey, and I received a lot of hate mail
from you, and I was just trying to tell you
the truth and warn you up front.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
If you believe that.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Gavin Newsome has any real chance of being recalled, you
don't understand California politics. He's won his last two gubernatorial
races by some twenty five points. That's like that's almost
unheard of, and including the recall effort against him, which
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is just fifty percent plus one, you're not going to
recall him. And not only that, he's going to finish
out his term, I believe in twenty twenty six, which
is like next year. So even if you get the
requisite signatures to get this on the ballot for a
special election, just like it happened back in twenty twenty two,
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you're right at the end of his term. You're not
gaining anything. You're just actually costing the taxpayers of California
who have to pay for a special election which costs
millions of dollars, and it's not going to yield any
different result. In fact, I should reach out to Randy
this week and see if you can come on next week,
because what I'm saying to you, I will say exactly
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to him. I personally believe it's a fool's Errand.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I know you hate him.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You hate him, you can't stand him, can't you just
can't wait to get rid of him. But what did
the first seven eight times tell you? What did that
get you? If anything, he's more popular in democratic circles now.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'm not saying he should be. I'm saying that he is.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
He's more popular within democratic circles now, as evidence by
the fact that he's likely the presumptive front runner for
the nomination in twenty twenty eight running for president. He's
more popular now than he was four years ago. And
four years ago, I don't know. That's what six recalls
a go.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
So what does that take.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's almost like it's the incredible hope. The more you
do this, the stronger he gets. And I wonder the
political thinking and reasoning behind this, because if we can
agree that it's probably not going to be successful, In fact,
I would say it's definitely not going to be successful,
then what do you stand to gain If it's not
going to help you the Republican voter here in California,
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If it's not going to change who is going to
be governor here in California, and it's probably going to
propel him in a national sense. And if I were
to make a Trump comparison, think about all the times
that the Democrats went out to Trump did Trump?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Did that help Trump or hurt Trump?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Well, if we look at recent history, you could make
the argument that it helped Trump, all the negativity and
all the efforts to get him impeached to whatever, it
helped him big picture as far as his Republican base.
Now with Governor Gavin Newsom, if you think that the
ninth or the tenth recall effort is going to be
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the magic bullet is the one that's going to make
the difference and somehow derail his political aspirations of running
for president, then I think you're deluding yourself. I think
you're honestly deceiving yourself. This at best will get enough
signatures and we'll get on the ballot and will fail
again for the ninth, tenth or eleventh time.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Also, do you know who pays for those recall elections? Yes,
I do, go ahead, the taxpayers.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
No, I said, I said, we the taxpayers are going
to have to pay the millions of dollars with a
special election.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yes, Oh, it's not just a couple million, it could
be like up to a quarter billion.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Okay, yeah, sure, I mean because we're very concerned about,
you know, not wasting tax dollars and making sure the
state is on budget.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Keep in mind, if you're concerned about fiscal responsibility and
that's one of your complaints, you mean, if you're sincerely concerned, sure,
whatever you say.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
It's Later with Mo Kelly Cay If I AM six forty, Yes,
Randy Economy, I know you're probably listening.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Reach out to me.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
We'll have you on next week and have this conversation
on air and I'll say the exact same thing all
over again.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
And the reason why I wanted to talk about that
Gavin Newsom recall effort last segment. I wanted that to
set up what I wanted to talk about relative to
President Trump visiting Los Angeles Southern California tomorrow. If everything
is still on schedule, it's really important what happens tomorrow.
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Not only the optics, not only the interplay between Newsome
and Bass and Trump, but they're real lives who will
be affected by what happens tomorrow. If it gets bogged
down and just politics and aid is dangled over the
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head of Los Angeles in California to gain political points,
then that means people will have to suffer longer, unnecessarily so.
And I always root for people. I never root for politicians.
I root for people. And my hope is tomorrow it'll
be more people and less politics. Now maybe that's pollyanna ish,
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maybe I'm deluding myself, but my hope is that the President,
governor Mayor Bass, and the other associated mayors. I don't
want people to think that it's only about Mayor Bass.
They're a good nine or ten incorporated cities out there
which are also part of this equation. My hope is
that our government can be a little less dysfunctional for
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a couple of days, and you can have the federal
response aligned with the state's response and also align with
the local responses to these fires. I hope that we
can see a cordial exchange between Governor Newsom and President Trump,
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usually with the customary handshake at the airport, maybe on
the airport tarmac, and maybe they'll have a nice press
conference and they say all the nice things and they
curse each other out behind the scenes or whatever they
need to do. I don't want anything publicly to get
in the way of the relief effort. Maybe I'm asking
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two damn much, and maybe my cynicism should lead the
way on this. Maybe I should take some of my
own medicine and remind myself that that's not the way
our politics work now. But if you are unfortunately rooting
for some sort of fireworks or owning someone, or a
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public embarrassment of someone, and I mean that either way,
because if Governor knew some were to try to embarrass
President Trump, we know how he's going to respond and
where that all is going to lead. That serves no one,
That serves no one, that helps no one. I hope
that we can get through tomorrow unscathed and not get
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bogged down.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And who posts what or who said what? Who insulted home?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And just did the business at hand, because I know
too many people who lost their houses, too many personally personally.
And the last thing I am going to care about
is whether Donald Trump stuck it to California. The last
thing that I'm going to care about is whether Gavin
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Newsom got the better of Donald Trump. The last thing
I'm going to worry about is is Mayor Bass going
to be safe and she's going to survive this and
not have to deal with the scrutiny and the criticism.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I don't care about any of that. Maybe I'm in
the minority.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
We wouldn't be the first time, but maybe I would
be in the minority in the sense of looking for
things that other people aren't looking for, because I've seen
time and time again, and I see it on social media,
I see it on cable news that people are either
rooting against California or rooting against certain politicians to somehow
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further espouse their political worlds view when honestly, I'm just
worried about people who've lost their houses, who've lost everything,
who need help. And most of the time, even though
we talk about we gotta shrink the government, the government's
too big, it's too bloated. This is the time you
actually need the government. The whole idea of federalism is
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about moments. Right now, states have limited access to certain funds.
When you talk about a natural disaster or even a
man made disaster, it usually is beyond not only the
control of the state, but it's beyond the capacity of
the state. And if we left each and every state
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to handle and find for themselves during natural disasters, this
country would fall apart. Imagine if we left Alabama last
year to its own devices when those tornadoes tore through
the state, Or if Joe Biden said, well, you know what,
I'm not so sure I am going to give or
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release federal aid to Alabama because I'm not so sure
that their politics are in.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Alignment with mine.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Imagine that for a moment, Or if Joe Biden were
to say, you know what, I'm not so sure I'm
going to help out Florida because it's not in my
political interests. I don't like Governor Gavin nuw Ronda Santus
and he may be a threat to me in the primaries,
or he may not be helpful to me later on
down the road.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Imagine that for a moment, me, I wasn't thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I'm thinking about whether Florida's going to get the help
that it needs or the other six states also impacted
by Hurricane Helene and Milton, six states.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I think Mark correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
More than two hundred people died between those two hurricanes
and thousands and thousands of houses destroyed. I just think
about the lives who were upended because of those hurricanes.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I wasn't thinking about politics. I was worried about people.
I'm going to take your word for that.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I don't have that information handy, but I know you
were right that it's traditionally we all come together in
times of emergency, and we don't use them as leverage politically, right.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I mean, is that such a that's such a lofty
goal here? Is that too much to ask? Is that
too much to hope for?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I also think real carefully if you if you're talking
about cutting off California from federal aid, because California is
a net contributor nationally. We contribute far, far more in
federal dollars than we take, unlike states like Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I can't remember the exact number, so I'm not going
to say it, but yes, I think it's eighty two billion, Okay,
just off the top of my hend. We are paying
far more taxes than we're getting back in return.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, far more.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
California has a disproportionate and outsized impact and level of
importance in the economic fortunes of this country, period, point blank,
full stop.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
So if you want to inflict rugged individualism on all
the states, I think a lot would get hit a
lot harder than California.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, that's when your politics get in the way of
good common sense and you, like I always tell people,
you may think you want that, you may think a
little it be cool if President Trump were to withhold
funds or dangle funds over the state of California.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
You may think you want that. You don't. You don't.
I'm trying to give you the easy path here.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Get the easy ones, right, and the easy one is
the federal government helps out the states. That's what federalism is.
That's why you have FEMA, That's why you have this
federal declaration of a disaster. That's how people are going
to be made whole the quickest. I hope we don't
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mess up tomorrow. And I say we because there are
a lot of competing interests. I'm only rooting for people,
not politicians, not political party, because I don't know about you.
I know of at least ten people who've lost everything.
I don't give two g dams about who might be
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to let you know. Next Friday, not tomorrow, but a
week from today, we will have our very special co host.
You may remember back during pastathon, you have the opportunity
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to co host an episode of Later with Mo Kelly
on a Friday, maybe even run the name that movie
called Classic Game Choose.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The movies have.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
All sorts of fun talk about anything that you want
to talk about, whatever's going on in the world, entertainment, politics,
what have you. Well, our co host for next Friday,
Friday Week, Paul Berry, will be joining us in studio
next Friday, and I can't tell you what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'm going to be writing Shotgun on my own show
all three hours. Matter of fact, we'll talk to him
tomorrow off air, you know, go over some show prep notes,
getting him ready to become a full bonified KFI radio professional.
So that's going to be Friday week, and we're still
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ironing out some other details.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm out switching gears.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
We hope to have Grammy nominated musician Corey Henry in studio.
If you know anything about this piano and keyboard prodigy,
you're in for a treat.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
He should be joining us in studio on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I say that fingers crossed tentatively speaking, because I feel
like I jinxed myself whenever I talk about any type
of interview in advance. But you would be in for
a treat. Can't wait for that. And if you wonder, Mo,
why are you so energetic? Why are you such a
good mood? Because we finally have some rain coming, hopefully
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not too much for my folks in Altadena, but we
have We do have some rain, which hopefully will alleviate
a lot of these fires. All right, Marna, let us
have it, tell us give us the good dudes.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well, you really hope it's not a monkey's pause situation
that you're familiar with that story at all. Okay, So
the way it's looking right now, we were do for
some rain Friday that has been amended. These things change
on the fly. Now Saturday we got a thirty percent
chance of rain during the day, and then it's looking
like more of a sure thing at night. Rain Sunday
and possibly Monday as well. So if three days arragin
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possible in our future. I hope it's just the right amount,
like the Three Bears story, just the right amount, not
too much, not too little, just right, just enough to
spit those fires the rest of the way out and
not cause any mud slides.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Hopefully.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You know we're due for some good news, just a
little bit of good news.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You think.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
It doesn't have to be perfect news, doesn't have to
be great news. I'm just asking for good news. I
think we've earned it. I think people in southern California
deserve it. We need a respite from all the bad news.
And that's part of the reason why tonight we're gonna
lean into some fun tonight.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I think we've all had enough.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
News where we can also weave in some fun. Now,
don't get us wrong, we're still going to follow the fires.
We're gonna still make sure that you are informed with
what's going on if there should be a new fire,
which should come about, which is a distinct possibility, because
that's something California these days, but we're going to make
sure that you have this information when it's necessary. You're
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not going to miss anything by listening to KFI. Mark
Roner is going to be on it. We have other
individuals in our intrepid news staff, Brian low who's going
to be honest. So we will have all sorts of
information for you as it arises, and we'll give it
to you as it makes sense. So don't think that
we're diminishing the impact or the importance of the fires.
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We're just also going to have a little bit of
fun tonight because I don't know about you. I don't
know about you, but it's time to laugh a little,
just a bit.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I remember fun I do. It seems so distant, doesn't it.
It seemed like it was so long ago.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Kind of was because we were doing those five hour shifts,
so it just seemed longer ago than usual.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, it's been about two weeks as of yesterday, hasn't it.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yes, yeah, about two weeks. There is legitimate news that
we will be covering tonight. We'll tell you about how
residents have been very concerned over the toxic ash and
the chemicals lingering in the air all over southern California.
That impacts everyone, whether you were in an evacuated zone
or not.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And there is a new recall effort.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's almost like the sun coming up which is targeting
Governor Gavin Newsom and exciting California's rising costs and policies.
I'll tell you about that. And I know that a
lot of folks do not like Governor Gavin Newsom. He
is not very popular in certain segments, but but he
wins overwhelmingly here in California. And this probably will be
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the sixth attempt at getting him recalled.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Oh no, it's more than that. I think they've had
eight so far. Okay, all right, then I underestimate it.
I can, I can check this.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, let's get that, because that's going to be part
of my remarks. I mean, if the first seven times
weren't successful, and you were never close, never close.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
According to our own KFI records, Newsom has survived eight
previous recalls.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okay, so this is number nine. So we both undershot it.
This will be number nine. Who knows? Maybe you know, Look,
I remember when I was a very young, strapping gentleman,
and I said, look, maybe the ninth time is the
charm when I ask her out, Maybe the ninth time
she'll view me differently and she'll say yes to me.
Who knows. Hope spring's eternal, But that'll come up a
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little bit later. We'll talk about Governor Gavin Newsom and
the latest effort to recall him. So much to cover tonight,
we're gonna have a little bit of fun. Of course,
we'll have a lot of news, because that's what's most important.
But as long as we're here together, it's going to
be enjoyable. It's Later with mo Kelly if I am
six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I want you to walk back in time with me
to the mid nineteen seventies Los Angeles specifically, oh, just
southern California more generally. I remember as a kid, and
it didn't matter if it were winter or summer. Felt
it definitely much more in summer, but I remembered it
year round.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I remember going.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
To school and we'd have these like smag alert days
where we couldn't go out on the playground for recess,
serious stuff, and it was a real thing, have these
smog alert days. Kids couldn't go outside and play, not
at school at least or during the summer. You go
outside and play, and if you were old enough to
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be able to get on, or if your parents would
take you somewhere like down the one tied Free where
you could see downtown.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
There was this.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Brown haze just hanging over the city. We called that
normal everyday life. The air quality was horrible here in
southern California, and I remember my friends who had asthma,
not frequently, but there were times they would have these
bad asthma attacks. They'd be taken to the hospital. Or
if you were playing as a kid outside all day,
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your chest would start hurting from just breathing in the
bad air quality.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
No exaggeration, You're not exaggerating.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
During the times that I lived here briefly as a child,
I would have gasping attacks where all I could do
is lie on the couch and just yeah. And of
course my mom didn't take me to a doctor or anything.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
They just passed. But Di'd say it was no joke.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But we took that as being normal, regular. That was
acceptable back in the day. And if you're not old
enough to remember that, you may not understand how egregious
it was. We just didn't know, or you can say
government was taking a blind eye. But now, many decades later,
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and you have an event just like the fires, and
for me, it takes me back to that because you
get to see it is much more concentrated. Of course,
you have the ash on your car or on your house,
you can see it falling in the air. It's a
little bit better now until we have another major fire
and it's almost like you start all the way over
and it goes out for tens and dozens of miles,
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not like you have to be right next to an
evacuation zone or a fire zone for you to fill
the ill effects of this air. And I'm one of
the many residents who's very concerned about this toxic ash,
the chemicals lingering in the air. And it's something that
we may not actively be thinking about, but it is
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actively impacting us directly every single day.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Now. This is the EPA quote.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
During a wildfire or other combustion related activities, concentrations of
particles can substantially increase in the air to the point
that particle pollution is visible to the naked eye. Yes,
we see this, but it goes on again. This is EPA.
This level of smoke of pollution that's in the air,
the ash, the chemicals can irritate our lungs and upper airways. Yes,
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Now the question is how long will we be dealing
with this type of air pollution? And it's not something
you can hide from. Twalla Sharp was telling you about, Hey,
he's gonna wear his N ninety five mask. I have
not gotten to the point of wearing the N ninety
five mask. Maybe I should, honestly, maybe I should. But
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it's something that we should be very cognizant of as
far as to my word, horrible air quality, and it's
something we took for granted in southern California many many
years ago. We're older now, we're smarter now, hopefully we're
more knowledgeable now and informed. We should do better now,
if only to protect ourselves, protect our children. And I know,
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I know you maybe be that person who say I'm
not ever gonna wear a mask. Okay, God bless you,
that's your choice. But also no, going back to the
nineteen seventies, there was a cost to that.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I can't tell you in a scientific sense how many
people had lung issues growing up directly related to small
I can't tell you who possibly got lung cancer or
who had respiratory illnesses and diseases later on in life.
I can't tell you that it was absolutely unhealthy, especially
over a long period of exposure, and we had to
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do better for the sake of everyone.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
The air quality.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Just talk to someone who's over the age of maybe
forty five, like I don't think.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Stephan, do you remember anything about the small days? Did
you have that growing up? Not that I really remember.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Now, Yeah, Mark, did you have anything like that? And
you said when you visited, But I didn't know what
the air quality was like up in Washington. Well, we
had the explosion of Mount Saint Helen's while I was
also two. I was in that territory. I forget the
exact year. So I lived here briefly when I was
a kid, and that's when I used to have the
gasping attacks. I lived in LA but then you know,
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out of here and up to Washington with a volcano promptly,
so I got good timing. I remember we were studying
that in class as it was happening, because there was
a lead up to the eruption of Mount Saint Helen's
and you know, in science class we would study stuff
like that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
We did have any internet.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
All we had was broadcast television, very limited direct exposure
to the news surrounding it.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But it was something that we did study in class. Well,
let me tell you, it was like snow had fallen everywhere.
There was ash everywhere. From months and years after that,
it got in and on everything, and you did not
want to say, go jogging in the ash.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And I don't want to be macab and I want
to be very respectful of this. We all know what
the ash looked like in nine to eleven. We all
know the long term impact of that ash. We know
that people died many years later because of that ash.
So it's something that we should be aware of and
not dismissed just because it's sunny skies outside. It was
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visually a beautiful day, it was, but we do know
that the air quality is still subpar. It's still less
than what it was, and we have these relatively new
fires just about every day. They may not all be
the size of Pacific Palisades or Eaten Canyon, but obviously
the one, the huge fire, was pretty sizable comparatively speaking,
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and that has com consistently and continuously made our air
I would say, on just on this side of dangerous.
And we know that These toxic chemicals can linger in
the air for not only days, but even weeks. Hear
me now, even weeks after a wildfire has been extinguished
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after and we haven't even extinguished all these wildfires. We're
not even at day one after the fires have ended.
So if today, as in January twenty third, were day one,
our air quality is going to be impacted, for what
we know of, for weeks well into February, even if
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all the fires were extinguished.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Today you always see news of some fitness freak out
jogging in the middle of a catastrophic flood or whatever
is going on. I think better safe than sorry is
a good thing to keep in mind for what's going
on right now.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, and I think we lull ourselves into a false
sense of security. He's well, and because we may not
be able to perceive the toxicity of the air, it's like, well,
I'm not having trouble breathing. That goes back to what
I was talking about growing up as a kid, you
play it outside all day and then at the end
of the day you realize that your breathing has impacted
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or your your chest is hurting. You may not know
it in the moment the damage that we're doing to
ourselves right now may not avail itself in the moment.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
No, you don't need to book Louis Pasteur as a
guest to understand that some things we can't seek and
really hurt us. So he went, Louis Pasteura, I pa
like the pastor of card I'm sorry. Look in the
age of raw milk too. Yes, I hear you. That's
a whole nother thing right there. I am there with you.
But don't run outside wild chug and raw milk.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I will say this, but it has been something that's
been actively on my mind. I think about it as
far as walking my dogs. We have air pure fires
in the house, Yeah we do too. Yeah, we're actively
conscious of this, and we know that it's not just
the fires. It's not just the fires that we can
see on TV. It's not just the fires that have
been put out. Thank you to all the first responders
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and firefighters who have done such a wonderful job protecting
lives and also property. That it's all the things that
we can't see, that we don't know, and that are
going to linger at least until February, maybe March, depending
on how much longer we're dealing with these mass fires.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Air filters rather make a big difference, and I'm glad
you brought those up. You can get them on Amazon.
It takes five minutes to do research. They're more affordable
than you would think. I bought one at Costco for
like one hundred and thirty bucks. We use it all
the time. Those are very hell helpful, not just for
the fire smoke, but for COVID and they're just good
things to have on hand.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I didn't realize how much of a difference they can
make until my wife went wild and bought like three
of them and put them all over the house. And
you immediately noticed the difference you do.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
And I'm constantly reading as well about the difference they
make in schools and office buildings.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
They're good to have. It's later with mo Kelly when
we come back.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
We're going to talk about this most recent recall effort,
which is targeting Governor Newsom. And I'm here to tell
you this is not a political statement, but I'm here
to tell you don't get your hopes up because the
first nine times didn't yield the result that you might
have wanted. The tenth time is not, I'm here to
tell you, is not going to yield any different result.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We'll tell you why when we come back.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
There's a new effort, of course, against Governor Gavin Newsom.
I know you can't stand the guy. In fact, full disclosure,
I don't like him either. I've never voted for him,
never have never supported him. There's some things that I
know that I can't say on the air, or shouldn't
say on the air.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
But I will say.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
This, this recall effort, regardless of how much you may
personally agree with it, or how politically agreeable it may
be for you, it's not going to go anywhere. I mean,
you may get the requisite signatures and get it on
the ballot, and there may have a special recall election
like they've had in previous years, but it's not going
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to go anywhere. It's not going to lead to him
being ousted. It's not going to lead to someone like
Larry Elder like last time, becoming governor. I'm just telling you,
let's skip to the end. I'm telling you how the
story ends. Quote under the reign of Governor Newsom. Living
in California has become impossible for average people through years
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of poor Paul which have increased the cost of living,
increased crime, increased drug use and homelessness, increase the cost
of burden on small businesses and communities, while decreasing our
professional standards, education standards, the disappearance of billions of taxpayers
dollars to fail pet programs, and our public services. That
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comes from Randy Economy, the group's founder who is behind
this effort. I know Randy very well. We have done
on air radio work together. I would call him a
friend and we can reach out to each other anytime.
I've had him on not this show, I've had him
on the mo Kelly Show a number of times, and
what I'm saying right now is what I've said to
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him personally, professionally, politically, and not to be too cynical,
even though I can be very cynical, but I know
why these recall efforts happen, and a lot of times
they aren't to be successful, but to possibly damage a politician.
People don't necessarily know that it's the umpteenth time that
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there was a recall effort, Usually in the minds of voters,
they're not paying that close attention, so they just hear, oh, governor,
Governor Gavin Newsom is being recalled or there's a recall
effort against him. Why why anytime, it's about presenting him
in a way which makes him less attractive on a
national level. Now, because let's be honest, we know that
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he is probably probably the Democratic front runner for president
in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Probably is.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
There's probably no one with more name recognition on a
national level who has not already run for president or
who does not have more baggage. It's Gavin Newsom's to lose.
Like him or loathe him. If you're not a Democrat yet,
of course you're not voting for him. I'm just saying
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within Democratic circles, he's probably the front runner. And in
the way that you want to make sure that your
preferred candidate has the best chance to win in twenty
twenty eight, whoever it is, you damn sure want to
make sure that you try to damage as much as
possible the presumptive front runner of the party that you
don't like.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
This is more of that.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
If you are and I told you about this with
Steve Garvey, and I received a lot of hate mail
from you, and I was just trying to tell you
the truth and warn you up front.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
If you believe that.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Gavin Newsome has any real chance of being recalled, you
don't understand California politics. He's won his last two gubernatorial
races by some twenty five points. That's like that's almost
unheard of, and including the recall effort against him, which
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is just fifty percent plus one, you're not going to
recall him. And not only that, he's going to finish
out his term, I believe in twenty twenty six, which
is like next year. So even if you get the
requisite signatures to get this on the ballot for a
special election, just like it happened back in twenty twenty two,
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you're right at the end of his term. You're not
gaining anything. You're just actually costing the taxpayers of California
who have to pay for a special election which costs
millions of dollars, and it's not going to yield any
different result. In fact, I should reach out to Randy
this week and see if you can come on next week,
because what I'm saying to you, I will say exactly
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to him. I personally believe it's a fool's Errand.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I know you hate him.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You hate him, you can't stand him, can't you just
can't wait to get rid of him. But what did
the first seven eight times tell you? What did that
get you? If anything, he's more popular in democratic circles now.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'm not saying he should be. I'm saying that he is.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
He's more popular within democratic circles now, as evidence by
the fact that he's likely the presumptive front runner for
the nomination in twenty twenty eight running for president. He's
more popular now than he was four years ago. And
four years ago, I don't know. That's what six recalls
a go.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
So what does that take.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's almost like it's the incredible hope. The more you
do this, the stronger he gets. And I wonder the
political thinking and reasoning behind this, because if we can
agree that it's probably not going to be successful, In fact,
I would say it's definitely not going to be successful,
then what do you stand to gain If it's not
going to help you the Republican voter here in California,
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If it's not going to change who is going to
be governor here in California, and it's probably going to
propel him in a national sense. And if I were
to make a Trump comparison, think about all the times
that the Democrats went out to Trump did Trump?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Did that help Trump or hurt Trump?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Well, if we look at recent history, you could make
the argument that it helped Trump, all the negativity and
all the efforts to get him impeached to whatever, it
helped him big picture as far as his Republican base.
Now with Governor Gavin Newsom, if you think that the
ninth or the tenth recall effort is going to be
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the magic bullet is the one that's going to make
the difference and somehow derail his political aspirations of running
for president, then I think you're deluding yourself. I think
you're honestly deceiving yourself. This at best will get enough
signatures and we'll get on the ballot and will fail
again for the ninth, tenth or eleventh time.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Also, do you know who pays for those recall elections? Yes,
I do, go ahead, the taxpayers.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
No, I said, I said, we the taxpayers are going
to have to pay the millions of dollars with a
special election.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yes, Oh, it's not just a couple million, it could
be like up to a quarter billion.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Okay, yeah, sure, I mean because we're very concerned about,
you know, not wasting tax dollars and making sure the
state is on budget.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Keep in mind, if you're concerned about fiscal responsibility and
that's one of your complaints, you mean, if you're sincerely concerned, sure,
whatever you say.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
It's Later with Mo Kelly Cay If I AM six forty, Yes,
Randy Economy, I know you're probably listening.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Reach out to me.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
We'll have you on next week and have this conversation
on air and I'll say the exact same thing all
over again.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
And the reason why I wanted to talk about that
Gavin Newsom recall effort last segment. I wanted that to
set up what I wanted to talk about relative to
President Trump visiting Los Angeles Southern California tomorrow. If everything
is still on schedule, it's really important what happens tomorrow.
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Not only the optics, not only the interplay between Newsome
and Bass and Trump, but they're real lives who will
be affected by what happens tomorrow. If it gets bogged
down and just politics and aid is dangled over the
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head of Los Angeles in California to gain political points,
then that means people will have to suffer longer, unnecessarily so.
And I always root for people. I never root for politicians.
I root for people. And my hope is tomorrow it'll
be more people and less politics. Now maybe that's pollyanna ish,
(25:46):
maybe I'm deluding myself, but my hope is that the President,
governor Mayor Bass, and the other associated mayors. I don't
want people to think that it's only about Mayor Bass.
They're a good nine or ten incorporated cities out there
which are also part of this equation. My hope is
that our government can be a little less dysfunctional for
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a couple of days, and you can have the federal
response aligned with the state's response and also align with
the local responses to these fires. I hope that we
can see a cordial exchange between Governor Newsom and President Trump,
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usually with the customary handshake at the airport, maybe on
the airport tarmac, and maybe they'll have a nice press
conference and they say all the nice things and they
curse each other out behind the scenes or whatever they
need to do. I don't want anything publicly to get
in the way of the relief effort. Maybe I'm asking
(26:51):
two damn much, and maybe my cynicism should lead the
way on this. Maybe I should take some of my
own medicine and remind myself that that's not the way
our politics work now. But if you are unfortunately rooting
for some sort of fireworks or owning someone, or a
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public embarrassment of someone, and I mean that either way,
because if Governor knew some were to try to embarrass
President Trump, we know how he's going to respond and
where that all is going to lead. That serves no one,
That serves no one, that helps no one. I hope
that we can get through tomorrow unscathed and not get
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bogged down.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And who posts what or who said what? Who insulted home?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And just did the business at hand, because I know
too many people who lost their houses, too many personally personally.
And the last thing I am going to care about
is whether Donald Trump stuck it to California. The last
thing that I'm going to care about is whether Gavin
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Newsom got the better of Donald Trump. The last thing
I'm going to worry about is is Mayor Bass going
to be safe and she's going to survive this and
not have to deal with the scrutiny and the criticism.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I don't care about any of that. Maybe I'm in
the minority.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
We wouldn't be the first time, but maybe I would
be in the minority in the sense of looking for
things that other people aren't looking for, because I've seen
time and time again, and I see it on social media,
I see it on cable news that people are either
rooting against California or rooting against certain politicians to somehow
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further espouse their political worlds view when honestly, I'm just
worried about people who've lost their houses, who've lost everything,
who need help. And most of the time, even though
we talk about we gotta shrink the government, the government's
too big, it's too bloated. This is the time you
actually need the government. The whole idea of federalism is
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about moments. Right now, states have limited access to certain funds.
When you talk about a natural disaster or even a
man made disaster, it usually is beyond not only the
control of the state, but it's beyond the capacity of
the state. And if we left each and every state
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to handle and find for themselves during natural disasters, this
country would fall apart. Imagine if we left Alabama last
year to its own devices when those tornadoes tore through
the state, Or if Joe Biden said, well, you know what,
I'm not so sure I am going to give or
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release federal aid to Alabama because I'm not so sure
that their politics are in.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Alignment with mine.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Imagine that for a moment, Or if Joe Biden were
to say, you know what, I'm not so sure I'm
going to help out Florida because it's not in my
political interests. I don't like Governor Gavin nuw Ronda Santus
and he may be a threat to me in the primaries,
or he may not be helpful to me later on
down the road.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Imagine that for a moment, me, I wasn't thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I'm thinking about whether Florida's going to get the help
that it needs or the other six states also impacted
by Hurricane Helene and Milton, six states.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I think Mark correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
More than two hundred people died between those two hurricanes
and thousands and thousands of houses destroyed. I just think
about the lives who were upended because of those hurricanes.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I wasn't thinking about politics. I was worried about people.
I'm going to take your word for that.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I don't have that information handy, but I know you
were right that it's traditionally we all come together in
times of emergency, and we don't use them as leverage politically, right.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I mean, is that such a that's such a lofty
goal here? Is that too much to ask? Is that
too much to hope for?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I also think real carefully if you if you're talking
about cutting off California from federal aid, because California is
a net contributor nationally. We contribute far, far more in
federal dollars than we take, unlike states like Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I can't remember the exact number, so I'm not going
to say it, but yes, I think it's eighty two billion, Okay,
just off the top of my hend. We are paying
far more taxes than we're getting back in return.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, far more.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
California has a disproportionate and outsized impact and level of
importance in the economic fortunes of this country, period, point blank,
full stop.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
So if you want to inflict rugged individualism on all
the states, I think a lot would get hit a
lot harder than California.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, that's when your politics get in the way of
good common sense and you, like I always tell people,
you may think you want that, you may think a
little it be cool if President Trump were to withhold
funds or dangle funds over the state of California.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
You may think you want that. You don't. You don't.
I'm trying to give you the easy path here.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Get the easy ones, right, and the easy one is
the federal government helps out the states. That's what federalism is.
That's why you have FEMA, That's why you have this
federal declaration of a disaster. That's how people are going
to be made whole the quickest. I hope we don't
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mess up tomorrow. And I say we because there are
a lot of competing interests. I'm only rooting for people,
not politicians, not political party, because I don't know about you.
I know of at least ten people who've lost everything.
I don't give two g dams about who might be
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