January 30, 2025 • 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – The return of the “Nice Exercise Lady,” regular guest contributor Claudine Cooper on KFI…PLUS Legendary Comedian George Wallace returns to the program with a brand new Prime Video series ‘Clean Slate,’ wherein “Wallace stars as Harry, an old-school car wash owner in Alabama who has a lot of soul searching to do when the child he thought was a son returns as Desiree (Laverne Cox), a proud, trans woman" - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six forty.
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they're not ready.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
This well listening listen not just says you shout work
out this.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Bad job, no workout.
Speaker 6 (00:57):
Claudie Cooper is now official on bo Kelly. She has
her own Eric Lesardo intro.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Oh my god, do I have a theme song?
Speaker 7 (01:06):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (01:06):
You do?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
That was phenomenal. I am so I'm embarrassed, like shy
about stuff like that, but that I really enjoyed it.
I really did.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
You are official? You have your own Isley Brother's rendition.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I love. How'd you know?
Speaker 8 (01:21):
I love?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
They? Did we talk about that?
Speaker 8 (01:23):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
We didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Oh I'm an old school R and B finantial.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
That we did talk about you?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Okay, okay, so you know, okay, yeah yeah, yeah. So
how's everything been going since? You know, I haven't seen
you for.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
There's been a lot going on in southern California. Yes,
I know. It kind of precluded us from just having
a normal conversations, especially with you. And I'm not trying
to make light of it, but you know, LA was
burning down, true, and that required all of our focus
at least from seven pm to midnight most nights of
the week for the past couple of weeks. And I
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know you are out of town celebrating a milestone birthday
and putting a kid and back in college or some stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Okay, so I did have my milestone birthday, but because
you brought up the fires, you know, I think we
can't really have any conversation in January of twenty twenty
five without really just honoring the people who put their
lives on the line, you know, and also the people
who are currently still displaced and suffering. I was very
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busy at that time. Yes, I had a birthday around
the same time, but I just didn't feel celebratory the year.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
MO.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I mean, it's just a lot going on, right, But
my job was surprisingly really busy, And for those who
are listening, I work in a gym and the gym
was packed.
Speaker 8 (02:44):
MO.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I was shocked.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Did you think that people would go in the other
direction because of circumstances.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I definitely thought that people would avoid the gym just
because we were all kind of on alert about leaving
the house. And you know, there was a lot of
factors involved in if you know, if you're in southern California,
you know what we're talking about, the air quality and
things like that. But what surprised me most is that
the day that the sky was like literally snowing ashes.
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You remember that day.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I do.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
That day, I was going in to teach one of
my group fitness classes and I thought to myself, I
can barely see out my windshield, so I'm sure no
one's going to be there. So when I got to work,
I was, you know, kind of like strolling in a
little bit. Let's not say late. You know, I'm punctually
challenged at times, so I was maybe a couple of
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minutes just coming and thinking nobody was going to be there.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
How many eyes were staring at you?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Oh my god, it was packed.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
It was packed.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Here's what we talked about in the class after the
class over the last few weeks, about how healing it
feels to be with other people who are able to
talk to you about your experience and what you're going through,
and how necessary it is for us to move our
bodies and go to meditation class, or do our breath work,
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or just ketch up with a friend at the gym.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
You know, I can't speak for other people, but I
know in my life of staying active, I found most
of my solace from whatever problems I may have had,
whatever issues were going on in the world, was either
in the gym or the dojaing or some of the
place where I could just because that was the constant.
That building, that edifice, that workout was the constant, regardless
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of all the craziness going on around me.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Do you think that there's some of that of what
you saw?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Absolutely in fact that day that I was kind of like, oh,
nobody's going to be there, blah blah blah. Also, we
considered actually closing the gym too, and I'm so glad
we didn't because of what you just brought up. If
going to the building is something that makes you feel
calmer or soothed in some way, or something in that
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routine is going to help you feel more regulated, as
they say, now you know you heard about all this right,
The regulation of our nervous systems is now even more
of a draw into the workout life than losing weight
or what is it looking good? Or what other reasons
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do people What other reasons do people work out mouth
look good?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I'd like the routine.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
I like just consistency, and from that consistency is my
idea of normalcy or normality, because I know I get
to do this on Thursday, do that on Friday, do
that on Saturday, and if those things aren't in any
way disrupted, that brings me calm.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
So that's funny you say that, because I teach that
same class everyondness day day at eight am, and they
know that they can rely. In fact, just a funny sidebar.
While I was a little touch bit late, someone said,
I wonder if Claudeine is even coming to teach the class.
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But there was another woman who has taken my classes
for many years, and she said one thing about Claudeene.
She might be late, but she is coming here. She
is going to show up. And I think she said,
as soon as she said it, I've walked up. Yeah, yeah,
you know, I'm going to show up, and it's going
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to bring calm to people who know I'll show up
at eight o'clock in the morning on Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
It's interesting we've had any number of conversations about emotional wellness,
mental health and enact those variables in the overall equation
of health and wellness. And I think, if anything, it's
an outsized variable, it's an extremely large variable. Right about now,
what would you say before we go to break as
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far as what people should concentrate on? Obviously less so
about what they see in the mirror, but what should
they be concentrating on more right about now?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Right so, when we brought up nervous system regulation, there's
a couple ways you can tell if your nervous system
is resetting. One of those ways is if you start
to feel your anxiety lesson, hands are not as shaky,
heart is not beating as fast, Shortness of breath becomes
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deeper breaths. Those are a few ways you can tell.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I love that because I try to meditate more and
more concentrate on breathing, taking deeper, longer breaths, long inhales,
longer exhales, and I feel much better afterward.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It doesn't matter the day I have. It just coms me.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
And you know what helps me is when I remind
myself guess what you can't control every single thing anyways,
take that deep breath. That's why I say sometimes if
traffic is doing what traffic is doing, what can I do?
I'm going to go teach the class.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Right But you know, and I'm one of those people.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
I can fall asleep anywhere, anytime, and I will say
it's a blessing, but I am conscious of it in
this way. When I lay down at night, I know
that there's nothing more I can do about this day
because this day's over, and there's nothing I can do
about tomorrow because it's not here. So I might as
well get a good night's sleep so I could at
least be ready for tomorrow, whatever it may bring me.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And I'm before I know.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It, And that's me too. My husband's like, dang, you
fall asleep right away.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I'm like miss mid sentence with it.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
And my wife hates you for it, but she'll get
the bench you'es on her phone and I'll be talking
to her and.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
All of a sudden, Oh, that's how you probably sound too.
Speaker 8 (08:56):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I've been told we'll have more with Claudine Cooper in
just a moment. Always.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
You can find her at Claudine Cooper dot com as
a matter of fact, Hey, Stephan, when we come back,
let's hear that new theme for the Nice Exercise Lady
when we come back.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
That was amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
k IF I AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Well listen. Nato says you show work out this dot,
don't work out.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
KF I A M six forty. It's Later with Mo
Kelly and obviously clear. Claudie Cooper on this Wellness Wednesday, Well,
a couple things. Claudie, you will never be able to
outrun the nice Exercise Lady tag anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You're stuck with that for life.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I just want to warn people. I know it says
nice exercise Lady, but I do tend to go hard
on the individuals who take my workout.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Oh yes, I can say that firsthand.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
I've done it twice, and each time I knew to
pace myself because there's nothing more embarrassing than falling out
or vomiting in front of everybody.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I do have a CPR certification that is up today
just in cases.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But I don't want to end up on anybody's video.
I don't want to end up on World Star Hip
Hop or anything. Like that, well Kelly fell out in
the world.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Oh I got But you know it's crazy, mo, is
that we go there now. So instead of thinking, oh,
I don't want to be injured or I don't want
to be carried away in an ambulance, the first thing
we think of is I don't want to be recorded.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yes that think about that.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
That is where we've come to. And today I was
to pilates before I got here, and while we were
in class, there was a young lady who popped up
her phone to take a video of herself doing the workout,
and I just said to her, let me run that
move back for you so that you can get a
proper video of it. And I think it threw people
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off for a second because I think for the most part,
people assume that the instructor, the trainer is not going
to want to have phones. But I was explaining to
the people at the class that when you record and
upload post anything about working out, you're also encouraging someone
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else who may not be working out at that time,
but they see you do it, and that's a motivation
for them. Why wouldn't I want more people to be
motivated and inspired to work out when I've dedicated my
entire adult life to teaching workhouse.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
All right, let me play the other side of this.
What about time and place? Sometimes the phones can be intrusive,
Sometimes the phones can be disruptive. And I could make
the argument that, hey, you, as the instructor, you're giving
away some pearls of wisdom which aren't meant for the
general consumption of the audience. Bring your behinds in it
and sign up for a class. You know, this person
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sign up or they pay their money for the gym membership.
You're not giving away for free, per se.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I can see other arguments, that's all.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I can definitely see that argument. Although for me, I
feel like, why gatekeep these pearls of wisdom? I don't
know how long I'm going to be on this earth,
And I feel like as we get older, our mortality
becomes so real. Oh yes, And when your mortality is
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so real, you have to ask yourself what am I
leaving for this world that's beyond me. Sometimes I think
about artists like Nipsey Hustle or you know, Prince, people
who I've loved, who I've listened to, and I think
about how, although they're no longer with us there art
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continues to bless us.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Yes, I'm at the age where I actually actively start
have started thinking about legacy. I care less about how
I'm remembered, which for me, in my mind is different.
I want there to be something that people can point
at or, like my younger nephews Niecess and said, when
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they start googling me later on in life and I'm
not just Uncle Moe, you know, they'll say, oh he
did that, Oh he knew so and so, or he
did this, and they'll have a broader understanding of me.
I think about that, but I don't concern myself with
too much what might people say about me.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Not so much what people say about you. Although back
in the day when I had a job in public relations,
they used to say, it's not what you say about you,
it's what other people say about you that really explains
who you are. Right, Because it's easy for us, in
all of our ego or lack of self awareness, to
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say I'm such a nice person. That's one reason why
when you guys call me the nice exercise lady, I'm like, hmmm,
I'm nice until.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
I'm anyone who's been around you for any amount of
time knows that you can go there.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Oh I can go Okay, I can go there. I
try not to. And I also, just speaking on that,
I feel like sometimes when we're talking about, oh, you know,
what are people going to say about me? There are
people that are going to say things that are nice
about you, and there are people that are going to
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say things that are not so nice about you.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, especially in this business.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Just for the record, Model, I love what people say
about you online.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I enjoy reading all of that.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Andrew Andrew Andrew jumped in because he likes to read.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
The Andrew just likes to stir it up.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
That's why it's called trolling.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yes, yes, he knows good and darn well what he's
talking about.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I have to ask you, Mary, have you been trolled recently?
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I'm told every single day there's always someone who is
saying something online to get a response out of me.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
And I'm a person you don't have to troll.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
If you want to engage me in conversation, I will
engage you in conversation.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
You just have to be in good faith.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Now, if you just want to start off with an insult,
there's nowhere for us to go because I can't say
the things to you that you can say to me,
and you're probably anonymous in hiding your identity, and I
don't have time for all that.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Good at engaging them too. I'll engage you, but I
just have rules.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
If it's going to be a personal insult, well we
can't go any further. If you want to discuss something
I've said on the show, absolutely we can agree, disagree.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
We can be snarky and condescending.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
But once you start dealing in the ad hominems and
saying oh you're the worst, and okay, fine, fine, but
I didn't bother.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
You you came to me.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
That reminds me of something already years ago. It said
that if you have to name call, you've already lost
the art, lost you lost the argument. So that's one
of those things rules of engagement. As said, that's one
of those things where I feel like, as it relates
to rules of engagement, when it comes to going to
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the gym in twenty twenty five, one thing you have
to know is people will have their phones. So, going
back to what I was saying, I do feel like
you have a point, but I also feel like we're
going to have to enter her in to this new world,
kicking and screaming, MO.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Get off my lan Exactly. You're on the wrong side
of twenty five, like me, get off our lawn.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
But I chose to adapt to the phone culture. I've
got social media. You participate too, You participate too in
measured amounts, and I try to do it on my
own terms.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
You know, I don't like social media. In fact, I
hate social media. Then why do you do it?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Because I have to, because it's a function of my
job and career.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
You know, because if I had my brothers and I
weren't working on a job like this, I would not
be on social media at all. My wife is not
on social media at all, and I envy her for that.
I am a gregarious person and I like people. But
you said it best. You said something to the facts
on social media, it's like the art of sharing something
but not really sharing anything.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
How did you phrase it?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Do you remember I said something to the effect of,
you know, you're good at being an open book. If
you can tell people just enough for them to think
you're an open book.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I like that. We're gonna put that in the promo
somewhere somewhere.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
It was something to that effect, because basically, you can
give people enough to know you, but you can still
protect your privacy in a way that you feel comfortable with.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
That's what I try to do. I try to maneuver
that every single day. I gotta run. I got George
Wallace on the phone.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I know, I know, I have enjoyed you. Thank you
for having me for Wellness Wednesdays Free workout start March first.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Thanks Fauninecooper dot com.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yes, I'll see Sue, see you next week.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
When Mo Kelly, people do nos in Las Vegas too?
Why are the people so nose a here?
Speaker 8 (18:52):
They just know that you can be in your driveway
watching your own car neighbors and Las Vegas put into.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
That draughtway, get out of the car. And what did
they say? When you finish y'alls, you can do mine.
You gotta listen. You can be on on a lot,
a cross the street, cat in your house. Hi, can
you finish yours?
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Here?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
You do?
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Next week?
Speaker 8 (19:13):
We're walking to my neck and his wife having sex,
I said sacally. One of the will say to him
when you finish his you can do mine. People at
Los Angeles driving around in a smart car, drinking smart
water on the smartphone, and sitting in traffing looking like
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a dumb ass kfi.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Mister mo Kelly, we are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app and from the late legendary television producer Norman Lear
comes the heartfelt new comedy series Clean Slate, premiering next Thursday,
February sixth on Amazon Prime Video. Clean Slate follows Harry
played by comedian George Wallace, an old school car wash
(19:58):
owner in Alabama who has a lot of soul searching
to do when the child he thought he was a
son returns as a proud trans woman now named Desiree
played by Laverne Cox. Her homecoming brings together a hilarious
cast of friends, co workers, and love interests as Desiree
and Harry try to get it right the second time around.
(20:22):
Joining me now on the show is the star of
Clean Slate, longtime friend of the show, the incomparable George Wallace. George,
how you doing, sir, George?
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Who's that?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
George? Don't like you don't know me?
Speaker 8 (20:35):
I know you did not just see you last week.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
No, no doubt that was someone else.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
You got a brother that looks like That's.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
What I've been told, George. George, how are you doing, sir?
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I'm feel good all over. How about you today?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I'm doing well. It's always nice to be able to
talk to you.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
And when I saw that you were gonna be star
of Clean Slate, I could not wait to have you on.
We know that Norman Lear was a master of capturing
the inherent tension of family dynamics. This Clean Slate is
along those lines. But what is it that's always so
funny about family?
Speaker 8 (21:12):
Family is good, and family is different, and family can
make you happy, family can make you laugh, family can
make you mad, Family to make you don't understand situations.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
And that's what Clean Slate is about.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
I started with an idea I wanted to reboot Sampiting Son,
and at the time this show was created seven years ago,
we finally got it on the air, and I wanted
to create samping Son with the great normal liv Everything
he's done, it's been great and very controversial. None more
controversial than this show Clean Slate. Seven years ago, the
Orangres of New Black was a hottes show out. I
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didn't know lebron cos I didn't know nothing about it,
but I just heard a lot about it, and I said,
I want to work with this great person, and I
hope she goes.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Along with the idea.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
What happened is that back as a black old man
down in Mobile, Alabama.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Having a family owned a car wash, all Oll the wash.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
And uh, my family and my wife died, my son
left home and I in there for my son in
twenty three years and I get an email said Dad,
I'm coming home tomorrow. I go to the door, then gone,
and the most beautiful lady you've ever seen that you're
life and standing at the door, and I say, oh,
young lady, any lady, don't but he's.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Selling avon or you're coming back to saying you know.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Over in return whatever, not today, not for me. My
son is coming home and she says, Dad, it's me.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Silence for about forty minutes, and I'm just looking up
the next thing. I said, book, come on ind But
in any case, my son has transgendered. And the beautiful
Laverne Cotton is sitting at the door saying, my daughter
and we learned to live and let live. I'm being
educated to learn to live with her lifestyle, and she's
learning to live with my old fashioned lifestyle. My house
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is still old like it was thirty years and she
just amazed that this is still the way I live.
And I'm definitely amazing the whare she's now living. But
it's all about love and hell.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I ain't this fancy. Lady's really in a good time
right now. My son's coming in a minute.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Dad.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I'm your daughter, Desiree. I've always been Desiree.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
We haven't spoken on the wall how long.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
This place looks exactly the same.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Let you know what they say, it ain't broke, don't
fix it.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
That's broke. I gotta fix it.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
We have a very special surprise guest.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
She ran a very fancy art gallery in New York City,
as for Taylor swift By Sunglasses. There, I arrange for
a gallery space and then my funding fell through. Your
bus broke and you live.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
At your mama broke.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
She brought jokes with her from New York. I ain't perfect,
and I don't pretend to know it all, but that's
a rate. Coming back and opening up like that was
a major step.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Oh my god, what we're in.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Your living room?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Girl, George, pleasure off? Are you crazy?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
How about crash with you?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
I ain't crashing when you're home.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I'm tell they're gonna have to be decorated. Come gass
let me, dad.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
I wouldn't do that because I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
To my door, to our daughter.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Can't get your remember hard battle. I wasn't asking you out.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I just thought I might need to get in touch.
It's time to declutter. We can start by replacing that
iesore on the mall.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
This is my class possession. It ain't gonna nowhere.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I'm daughter, dammit, jar, I'm going to retire off this.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Would you say Harry is closer to Fred G. Stamford
or Archie Bunker or George Jefferson.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
George Wallace, all four of them mixed, all four of
them mixed together. Because it's a new day at a
new time. With the climate of America today, Oh my god,
this is gonna be really accepted. It's gonna be controversial,
is gonna be talked about for a long time. I
think nothing has hit the screens like this and me
dealing with it, and I'm glad to be harry, to
be learning about life. It's good to learn something new
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that you don't know about and learn to live with it,
and you can learn to accept different ways people live,
because as hard as hell to live with me, I'm
an old black man, and what I say gonna go okay.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
But that's actually there's a lot of truth in that,
because if you come from a black family dynamic, that
is very much the case in many households. How much
did you draw upon your own family dynamic experiences for
something like this?
Speaker 7 (25:49):
How much all much everything is from It's the real
George Wallace.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
It's a real my daddy, George Wallace, It's a real
my granddaddy.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
It's the real people. I grew up in the neighborhood.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
You know. I'm from Atlanta, Georgia, and grew up in
a neighborhood where it didn't matter. Everybody was your daddy,
didn't matter who everybody was your mama.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
That's the neighborhood I grew up. Man. It's all about
respect and love and be loved.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
How much room did you give yourself? Yes, it's your idea,
but how much room did you give yourself to be spontaneous,
to be off the cuff, to be unrehearsed.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
In your scenes with Laverne Cox.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
I being an executive producer, she also executive producer. We
did the old thing and you'll see a lot of
my lines and have things I would say, things would
just come up out of nowhere. And my next your
neighborhood is tell My Hopkins. She's my aunt esther, so
we fight all the time. You shut up. You don't
tell me what to do, you shut up. And she
helps me a lot in learning how to live and
live there in LaVerne's community.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I get the sense that this is going to feel
like a warm blanket, something very familiar, but at the
same time it's going to be something very different. Did you,
when you were sitting down with Laverne Cox, say, Okay,
this is as far as we can go, or did
you say, we don't have the limits.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Let's just see where it goes.
Speaker 8 (27:02):
You are the smartest person I've talk to exactly. We
have no limits. Let's just do this, let's deal with it,
and we deal with it with love and laughter. That's
why you're going to enjoy the show. Some things I
don't understand, and you won't understand them with me. Some
things she doesn't know about me, my happiness. But we're
gonna learn to live and love each other. There's gonna
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be some tough moments there. I'm having a heart attack
and then she's taking care of me all of a sudden.
That's where the love comes in and you know we
can take care of each other.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
George, I'm not even gonna ask you.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
I'm just gonna make you hold on because I want
to talk to you for a second segment. My guest
on the line right now is the incomparable comedian George Wallace,
who is the star of the new Amazon Prime video
show Clean Slate, which premieres next Thursday, February sixth I'll
have more with George Wallace and more of Clean Slate
(27:55):
in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Kelly one K five A sixty.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
They got me in a hotel here three hundred and
eighty five dollars a night.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
That's what I said.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
I said, woe, I said, I ain't gone no way.
If there's gonna be a show, it's gonna be in
my room. Three hundred and eighty five dollars a night.
They don't want you to steal the towers. I told
the hell of the tars, I'm taking it great.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Sorry.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
This one woke up one morning, thought and have a
light breakfast, ordered some raisin toast.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
The lady came upstairs.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
The raisin toast was seven dollars and twenty five cents
seven dollars into. I told her, I said, you take
this toast back downstairs, and you take six dollars worth
of those raisins off this toast. And I took two
of the raids, and I said, and here's a little
something for yourself to me.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
I really do like your mama.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
I just saw at home depot. You know, you know
her teeth.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
That's so cruety. She got a job making keys.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
But that's a whole story.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeh man, that's a whole different story.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
You ain't gonna me, You ain't gonna just me in
front of all these people here, okay, Rickie smiling. Mama
so fat, she got a real horse on the polo shirt.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
She's so fat.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
When she gets on the elevator, Oh it's going down,
Ricky smile, and Mama.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
So fat to go to the beach.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
We can't see the ocean.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
I love ladies and animal print presses turns me on.
Look at all these lady animal print dress over there.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
That turns me on.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
But some of you ladies, and now when y'all want
these animal print dresses, you can't be larger than the animal.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
That you represent, Lady jiminy Inn.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Other night, when a zebra fifth, Harrybody said, it's a savant,
it's a sava.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
I am continuing my conversation with the very very funny
You heard those clips. You know his name, you know
his work, the very very funny George Wallace as we're
talking about his new TV show, which is from the
late legendary television producer Norman Lear is called Clean Slate
and the premiere's next Thursday, February sixth on Amazon Prime
(30:34):
Video and just to reset. Clean Slate follows Harry, who
is played by George Wallace, an old school car wash
owner in Alabama who has a lot of soul searching
to do when his son leaves and then comes back
twenty three years later as a trans woman. It's really
really funny and can't wait to see all the episodes.
(30:55):
George did you ever have a formal conversation with Laverne
Cox and ask hers like, where is the line as
far as humor versus either hatred or mean spirited comedy?
Because we've heard a lot in the past year or
two about how transgender people have been vilified or talked
about in comedy.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
Well, that's what we're gonna learn in this series as
you watch it. And we had a conversation about just
letting life live. This is mostly about her life right
now and we're all learning this at the same time.
And see it doesn't whatever let me she has.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
That's where we go.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Who was the first to break character and start laughing
during the scene? You were, Laverne.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Well you know it with me because you know I
could be because I'll change lines every year ever seen,
so I know my lines. But you know this could
be plenty yet the time. Let's do another thing. Let's
do it this way, Let's do it that way. And
that's when you know you're having fun, you know. See
Leburne is never the chance, never done comedy committic role.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
But now this is different from her and she's learning and.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
I'm throwing out all kinds of crazy ideas and thoughts.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
That's why it's funny.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
I'm Nan and she's her, and we put it all
together and it's really fun.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Is there a blooper real?
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Are there any outtakes where you said, oh, we can't
put this up on air?
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Hell?
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Yeah, we're more how you said not editor, there's no
such word as eduitor.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Edge year edg year.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
Yeah, you know I went to night school, right, so
but it's a lot of fun. So we go above
the regular television nothing beyond.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Yes, there's an educational component in the way that there
was an educational component of all in the Family and
the Jeffersons, where you try to move society forward, try
to educate them, but not at the same time proselytize
or preach to them. How do you know that you're
hitting the mark with America? Later on after this, he'll
comes out.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
Because it's always as it's a trick and coming and
how to write a joke AB three one two C
A B and with the twist at the end, that's
how we had a very serious how do we handle this?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Let's settle it for the laugh AB three one two C.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
Now are you gonna be watching it? Are you gonna
be watching this win. It premieres on Amazon Prime February sixth.
Are you one to watch your own work?
Speaker 8 (33:26):
See, I've had a problem with it so far. It's
been given to me. But watching me, I guess I'm
pretty good.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
I don't know. They say it, so I'm good.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
I will watch and I will enjoy, and I will
I know it's good we put it like that. I
know it's funny, and I know a message is being
sent most of all, and it's gonna, you know, make
this thing happen, and America is gonna love it. And
even if this country version, you know, even dealing with
the church, you know, the church people.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Sam George's radio, they can't see that.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
I'm looking at you. It may be radio, but they
can't see me on radio. They can see I'm the
greatest of the whole time. People seen me on the
radio and the movies and television. People see me in
on radio. That's what Mama, I leave us to say.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
From legendary television producer Norman Lee, the idea comes from
for this heartfelt new comedy series, Clean Slate, premier on Thursday,
February sixth on Prime Video. It stars Laverne Cox, and
my guest George Wallace, friend of the show, George, I
love you and there's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Nothing do my line in front of me. I just did,
George Wallace, what you gonna do? Hang up on me?
Speaker 8 (34:33):
I'm but then, let me tell you something. People are
using my line. I'm gonna sue you. I love you,
and there's absolutely nothing you can do by it. Byever
you can say that again, You're going to court. We're
going to court in Washington, DC.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Get off my show.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
Hope be a Republican said, you know when we're in.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Bye George, Bye boy.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
I love you, Thank you so much for everything.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Bye George.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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no no, no, no, no no no the other one.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Foosh.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You gotta hit him with the other one. Yeah, you
gotta hit him with the other one. They're not ready, foosh,
they're not ready.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
This well listening listen not just says you shout work
out this.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Bad job, no workout.
Speaker 6 (00:57):
Claudie Cooper is now official on bo Kelly. She has
her own Eric Lesardo intro.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Oh my god, do I have a theme song?
Speaker 7 (01:06):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (01:06):
You do?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
That was phenomenal. I am so I'm embarrassed, like shy
about stuff like that, but that I really enjoyed it.
I really did.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
You are official? You have your own Isley Brother's rendition.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I love. How'd you know?
Speaker 8 (01:21):
I love?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
They? Did we talk about that?
Speaker 8 (01:23):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
We didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Oh I'm an old school R and B finantial.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
That we did talk about you?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Okay, okay, so you know, okay, yeah yeah, yeah. So
how's everything been going since? You know, I haven't seen
you for.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
There's been a lot going on in southern California. Yes,
I know. It kind of precluded us from just having
a normal conversations, especially with you. And I'm not trying
to make light of it, but you know, LA was
burning down, true, and that required all of our focus
at least from seven pm to midnight most nights of
the week for the past couple of weeks. And I
(01:55):
know you are out of town celebrating a milestone birthday
and putting a kid and back in college or some stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Okay, so I did have my milestone birthday, but because
you brought up the fires, you know, I think we
can't really have any conversation in January of twenty twenty
five without really just honoring the people who put their
lives on the line, you know, and also the people
who are currently still displaced and suffering. I was very
(02:24):
busy at that time. Yes, I had a birthday around
the same time, but I just didn't feel celebratory the year.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
MO.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I mean, it's just a lot going on, right, But
my job was surprisingly really busy, And for those who
are listening, I work in a gym and the gym
was packed.
Speaker 8 (02:44):
MO.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I was shocked.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Did you think that people would go in the other
direction because of circumstances.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I definitely thought that people would avoid the gym just
because we were all kind of on alert about leaving
the house. And you know, there was a lot of
factors involved in if you know, if you're in southern California,
you know what we're talking about, the air quality and
things like that. But what surprised me most is that
the day that the sky was like literally snowing ashes.
(03:15):
You remember that day.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I do.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
That day, I was going in to teach one of
my group fitness classes and I thought to myself, I
can barely see out my windshield, so I'm sure no
one's going to be there. So when I got to work,
I was, you know, kind of like strolling in a
little bit. Let's not say late. You know, I'm punctually
challenged at times, so I was maybe a couple of
(03:40):
minutes just coming and thinking nobody was going to be there.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
How many eyes were staring at you?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Oh my god, it was packed.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
It was packed.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Here's what we talked about in the class after the
class over the last few weeks, about how healing it
feels to be with other people who are able to
talk to you about your experience and what you're going through,
and how necessary it is for us to move our
bodies and go to meditation class, or do our breath work,
(04:11):
or just ketch up with a friend at the gym.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
You know, I can't speak for other people, but I
know in my life of staying active, I found most
of my solace from whatever problems I may have had,
whatever issues were going on in the world, was either
in the gym or the dojaing or some of the
place where I could just because that was the constant.
That building, that edifice, that workout was the constant, regardless
(04:37):
of all the craziness going on around me.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Do you think that there's some of that of what
you saw?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Absolutely in fact that day that I was kind of like, oh,
nobody's going to be there, blah blah blah. Also, we
considered actually closing the gym too, and I'm so glad
we didn't because of what you just brought up. If
going to the building is something that makes you feel
calmer or soothed in some way, or something in that
(05:06):
routine is going to help you feel more regulated, as
they say, now you know you heard about all this right,
The regulation of our nervous systems is now even more
of a draw into the workout life than losing weight
or what is it looking good? Or what other reasons
(05:29):
do people What other reasons do people work out mouth
look good?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I'd like the routine.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
I like just consistency, and from that consistency is my
idea of normalcy or normality, because I know I get
to do this on Thursday, do that on Friday, do
that on Saturday, and if those things aren't in any
way disrupted, that brings me calm.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
So that's funny you say that, because I teach that
same class everyondness day day at eight am, and they
know that they can rely. In fact, just a funny sidebar.
While I was a little touch bit late, someone said,
I wonder if Claudeine is even coming to teach the class.
(06:14):
But there was another woman who has taken my classes
for many years, and she said one thing about Claudeene.
She might be late, but she is coming here. She
is going to show up. And I think she said,
as soon as she said it, I've walked up. Yeah, yeah,
you know, I'm going to show up, and it's going
(06:35):
to bring calm to people who know I'll show up
at eight o'clock in the morning on Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
It's interesting we've had any number of conversations about emotional wellness,
mental health and enact those variables in the overall equation
of health and wellness. And I think, if anything, it's
an outsized variable, it's an extremely large variable. Right about now,
what would you say before we go to break as
(07:02):
far as what people should concentrate on? Obviously less so
about what they see in the mirror, but what should
they be concentrating on more right about now?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Right so, when we brought up nervous system regulation, there's
a couple ways you can tell if your nervous system
is resetting. One of those ways is if you start
to feel your anxiety lesson, hands are not as shaky,
heart is not beating as fast, Shortness of breath becomes
(07:31):
deeper breaths. Those are a few ways you can tell.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I love that because I try to meditate more and
more concentrate on breathing, taking deeper, longer breaths, long inhales,
longer exhales, and I feel much better afterward.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It doesn't matter the day I have. It just coms me.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
And you know what helps me is when I remind
myself guess what you can't control every single thing anyways,
take that deep breath. That's why I say sometimes if
traffic is doing what traffic is doing, what can I do?
I'm going to go teach the class.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Right But you know, and I'm one of those people.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
I can fall asleep anywhere, anytime, and I will say
it's a blessing, but I am conscious of it in
this way. When I lay down at night, I know
that there's nothing more I can do about this day
because this day's over, and there's nothing I can do
about tomorrow because it's not here. So I might as
well get a good night's sleep so I could at
least be ready for tomorrow, whatever it may bring me.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And I'm before I know.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It, And that's me too. My husband's like, dang, you
fall asleep right away.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I'm like miss mid sentence with it.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
And my wife hates you for it, but she'll get
the bench you'es on her phone and I'll be talking
to her and.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
All of a sudden, Oh, that's how you probably sound too.
Speaker 8 (08:56):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I've been told we'll have more with Claudine Cooper in
just a moment. Always.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
You can find her at Claudine Cooper dot com as
a matter of fact, Hey, Stephan, when we come back,
let's hear that new theme for the Nice Exercise Lady
when we come back.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
That was amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
k IF I AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Well listen. Nato says you show work out this dot,
don't work out.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
KF I A M six forty. It's Later with Mo
Kelly and obviously clear. Claudie Cooper on this Wellness Wednesday, Well,
a couple things. Claudie, you will never be able to
outrun the nice Exercise Lady tag anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You're stuck with that for life.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I just want to warn people. I know it says
nice exercise Lady, but I do tend to go hard
on the individuals who take my workout.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Oh yes, I can say that firsthand.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
I've done it twice, and each time I knew to
pace myself because there's nothing more embarrassing than falling out
or vomiting in front of everybody.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
I do have a CPR certification that is up today
just in cases.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But I don't want to end up on anybody's video.
I don't want to end up on World Star Hip
Hop or anything. Like that, well Kelly fell out in
the world.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Oh I got But you know it's crazy, mo, is
that we go there now. So instead of thinking, oh,
I don't want to be injured or I don't want
to be carried away in an ambulance, the first thing
we think of is I don't want to be recorded.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yes that think about that.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
That is where we've come to. And today I was
to pilates before I got here, and while we were
in class, there was a young lady who popped up
her phone to take a video of herself doing the workout,
and I just said to her, let me run that
move back for you so that you can get a
proper video of it. And I think it threw people
(11:22):
off for a second because I think for the most part,
people assume that the instructor, the trainer is not going
to want to have phones. But I was explaining to
the people at the class that when you record and
upload post anything about working out, you're also encouraging someone
(11:45):
else who may not be working out at that time,
but they see you do it, and that's a motivation
for them. Why wouldn't I want more people to be
motivated and inspired to work out when I've dedicated my
entire adult life to teaching workhouse.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
All right, let me play the other side of this.
What about time and place? Sometimes the phones can be intrusive,
Sometimes the phones can be disruptive. And I could make
the argument that, hey, you, as the instructor, you're giving
away some pearls of wisdom which aren't meant for the
general consumption of the audience. Bring your behinds in it
and sign up for a class. You know, this person
(12:26):
sign up or they pay their money for the gym membership.
You're not giving away for free, per se.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I can see other arguments, that's all.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I can definitely see that argument. Although for me, I
feel like, why gatekeep these pearls of wisdom? I don't
know how long I'm going to be on this earth,
And I feel like as we get older, our mortality
becomes so real. Oh yes, And when your mortality is
(12:56):
so real, you have to ask yourself what am I
leaving for this world that's beyond me. Sometimes I think
about artists like Nipsey Hustle or you know, Prince, people
who I've loved, who I've listened to, and I think
about how, although they're no longer with us there art
(13:19):
continues to bless us.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Yes, I'm at the age where I actually actively start
have started thinking about legacy. I care less about how
I'm remembered, which for me, in my mind is different.
I want there to be something that people can point
at or, like my younger nephews Niecess and said, when
(13:45):
they start googling me later on in life and I'm
not just Uncle Moe, you know, they'll say, oh he
did that, Oh he knew so and so, or he
did this, and they'll have a broader understanding of me.
I think about that, but I don't concern myself with
too much what might people say about me.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Not so much what people say about you. Although back
in the day when I had a job in public relations,
they used to say, it's not what you say about you,
it's what other people say about you that really explains
who you are. Right, Because it's easy for us, in
all of our ego or lack of self awareness, to
(14:25):
say I'm such a nice person. That's one reason why
when you guys call me the nice exercise lady, I'm like, hmmm,
I'm nice until.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
I'm anyone who's been around you for any amount of
time knows that you can go there.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Oh I can go Okay, I can go there. I
try not to. And I also, just speaking on that,
I feel like sometimes when we're talking about, oh, you know,
what are people going to say about me? There are
people that are going to say things that are nice
about you, and there are people that are going to
(15:00):
say things that are not so nice about you.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, especially in this business.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Just for the record, Model, I love what people say
about you online.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I enjoy reading all of that.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Andrew Andrew Andrew jumped in because he likes to read.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
The Andrew just likes to stir it up.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
That's why it's called trolling.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yes, yes, he knows good and darn well what he's
talking about.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I have to ask you, Mary, have you been trolled recently?
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I'm told every single day there's always someone who is
saying something online to get a response out of me.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
And I'm a person you don't have to troll.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
If you want to engage me in conversation, I will
engage you in conversation.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
You just have to be in good faith.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Now, if you just want to start off with an insult,
there's nowhere for us to go because I can't say
the things to you that you can say to me,
and you're probably anonymous in hiding your identity, and I
don't have time for all that.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Good at engaging them too. I'll engage you, but I
just have rules.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
If it's going to be a personal insult, well we
can't go any further. If you want to discuss something
I've said on the show, absolutely we can agree, disagree.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
We can be snarky and condescending.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
But once you start dealing in the ad hominems and
saying oh you're the worst, and okay, fine, fine, but
I didn't bother.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
You you came to me.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
That reminds me of something already years ago. It said
that if you have to name call, you've already lost
the art, lost you lost the argument. So that's one
of those things rules of engagement. As said, that's one
of those things where I feel like, as it relates
to rules of engagement, when it comes to going to
(16:45):
the gym in twenty twenty five, one thing you have
to know is people will have their phones. So, going
back to what I was saying, I do feel like
you have a point, but I also feel like we're
going to have to enter her in to this new world,
kicking and screaming, MO.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Get off my lan Exactly. You're on the wrong side
of twenty five, like me, get off our lawn.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
But I chose to adapt to the phone culture. I've
got social media. You participate too, You participate too in
measured amounts, and I try to do it on my
own terms.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
You know, I don't like social media. In fact, I
hate social media. Then why do you do it?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Because I have to, because it's a function of my
job and career.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
You know, because if I had my brothers and I
weren't working on a job like this, I would not
be on social media at all. My wife is not
on social media at all, and I envy her for that.
I am a gregarious person and I like people. But
you said it best. You said something to the facts
on social media, it's like the art of sharing something
but not really sharing anything.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
How did you phrase it?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Do you remember I said something to the effect of,
you know, you're good at being an open book. If
you can tell people just enough for them to think
you're an open book.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I like that. We're gonna put that in the promo
somewhere somewhere.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
It was something to that effect, because basically, you can
give people enough to know you, but you can still
protect your privacy in a way that you feel comfortable with.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
That's what I try to do. I try to maneuver
that every single day. I gotta run. I got George
Wallace on the phone.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
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Yes, I'll see Sue, see you next week.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
When Mo Kelly, people do nos in Las Vegas too?
Why are the people so nose a here?
Speaker 8 (18:52):
They just know that you can be in your driveway
watching your own car neighbors and Las Vegas put into.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
That draughtway, get out of the car. And what did
they say? When you finish y'alls, you can do mine.
You gotta listen. You can be on on a lot,
a cross the street, cat in your house. Hi, can
you finish yours?
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Here?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
You do?
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Next week?
Speaker 8 (19:13):
We're walking to my neck and his wife having sex,
I said sacally. One of the will say to him
when you finish his you can do mine. People at
Los Angeles driving around in a smart car, drinking smart
water on the smartphone, and sitting in traffing looking like
(19:35):
a dumb ass kfi.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Mister mo Kelly, we are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app and from the late legendary television producer Norman Lear
comes the heartfelt new comedy series Clean Slate, premiering next Thursday,
February sixth on Amazon Prime Video. Clean Slate follows Harry
played by comedian George Wallace, an old school car wash
(19:58):
owner in Alabama who has a lot of soul searching
to do when the child he thought he was a
son returns as a proud trans woman now named Desiree
played by Laverne Cox. Her homecoming brings together a hilarious
cast of friends, co workers, and love interests as Desiree
and Harry try to get it right the second time around.
(20:22):
Joining me now on the show is the star of
Clean Slate, longtime friend of the show, the incomparable George Wallace. George,
how you doing, sir, George?
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Who's that?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
George? Don't like you don't know me?
Speaker 8 (20:35):
I know you did not just see you last week.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
No, no doubt that was someone else.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
You got a brother that looks like That's.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
What I've been told, George. George, how are you doing, sir?
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I'm feel good all over. How about you today?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I'm doing well. It's always nice to be able to
talk to you.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
And when I saw that you were gonna be star
of Clean Slate, I could not wait to have you on.
We know that Norman Lear was a master of capturing
the inherent tension of family dynamics. This Clean Slate is
along those lines. But what is it that's always so
funny about family?
Speaker 8 (21:12):
Family is good, and family is different, and family can
make you happy, family can make you laugh, family can
make you mad, Family to make you don't understand situations.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
And that's what Clean Slate is about.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
I started with an idea I wanted to reboot Sampiting Son,
and at the time this show was created seven years ago,
we finally got it on the air, and I wanted
to create samping Son with the great normal liv Everything
he's done, it's been great and very controversial. None more
controversial than this show Clean Slate. Seven years ago, the
Orangres of New Black was a hottes show out. I
(21:44):
didn't know lebron cos I didn't know nothing about it,
but I just heard a lot about it, and I said,
I want to work with this great person, and I
hope she goes.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Along with the idea.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
What happened is that back as a black old man
down in Mobile, Alabama.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Having a family owned a car wash, all Oll the wash.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
And uh, my family and my wife died, my son
left home and I in there for my son in
twenty three years and I get an email said Dad,
I'm coming home tomorrow. I go to the door, then gone,
and the most beautiful lady you've ever seen that you're
life and standing at the door, and I say, oh,
young lady, any lady, don't but he's.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Selling avon or you're coming back to saying you know.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Over in return whatever, not today, not for me. My
son is coming home and she says, Dad, it's me.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Silence for about forty minutes, and I'm just looking up
the next thing. I said, book, come on ind But
in any case, my son has transgendered. And the beautiful
Laverne Cotton is sitting at the door saying, my daughter
and we learned to live and let live. I'm being
educated to learn to live with her lifestyle, and she's
learning to live with my old fashioned lifestyle. My house
(22:58):
is still old like it was thirty years and she
just amazed that this is still the way I live.
And I'm definitely amazing the whare she's now living. But
it's all about love and hell.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I ain't this fancy. Lady's really in a good time
right now. My son's coming in a minute.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Dad.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I'm your daughter, Desiree. I've always been Desiree.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
We haven't spoken on the wall how long.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
This place looks exactly the same.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Let you know what they say, it ain't broke, don't
fix it.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
That's broke. I gotta fix it.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
We have a very special surprise guest.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
She ran a very fancy art gallery in New York City,
as for Taylor swift By Sunglasses. There, I arrange for
a gallery space and then my funding fell through. Your
bus broke and you live.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
At your mama broke.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
She brought jokes with her from New York. I ain't perfect,
and I don't pretend to know it all, but that's
a rate. Coming back and opening up like that was
a major step.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Oh my god, what we're in.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Your living room?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Girl, George, pleasure off? Are you crazy?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
How about crash with you?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
I ain't crashing when you're home.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I'm tell they're gonna have to be decorated. Come gass
let me, dad.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
I wouldn't do that because I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
To my door, to our daughter.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Can't get your remember hard battle. I wasn't asking you out.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I just thought I might need to get in touch.
It's time to declutter. We can start by replacing that
iesore on the mall.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
This is my class possession. It ain't gonna nowhere.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I'm daughter, dammit, jar, I'm going to retire off this.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Would you say Harry is closer to Fred G. Stamford
or Archie Bunker or George Jefferson.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
George Wallace, all four of them mixed, all four of
them mixed together. Because it's a new day at a
new time. With the climate of America today, Oh my god,
this is gonna be really accepted. It's gonna be controversial,
is gonna be talked about for a long time. I
think nothing has hit the screens like this and me
dealing with it, and I'm glad to be harry, to
be learning about life. It's good to learn something new
(25:23):
that you don't know about and learn to live with it,
and you can learn to accept different ways people live,
because as hard as hell to live with me, I'm
an old black man, and what I say gonna go okay.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
But that's actually there's a lot of truth in that,
because if you come from a black family dynamic, that
is very much the case in many households. How much
did you draw upon your own family dynamic experiences for
something like this?
Speaker 7 (25:49):
How much all much everything is from It's the real
George Wallace.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
It's a real my daddy, George Wallace, It's a real
my granddaddy.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
It's the real people. I grew up in the neighborhood.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
You know. I'm from Atlanta, Georgia, and grew up in
a neighborhood where it didn't matter. Everybody was your daddy,
didn't matter who everybody was your mama.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
That's the neighborhood I grew up. Man. It's all about
respect and love and be loved.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
How much room did you give yourself? Yes, it's your idea,
but how much room did you give yourself to be spontaneous,
to be off the cuff, to be unrehearsed.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
In your scenes with Laverne Cox.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
I being an executive producer, she also executive producer. We
did the old thing and you'll see a lot of
my lines and have things I would say, things would
just come up out of nowhere. And my next your
neighborhood is tell My Hopkins. She's my aunt esther, so
we fight all the time. You shut up. You don't
tell me what to do, you shut up. And she
helps me a lot in learning how to live and
live there in LaVerne's community.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I get the sense that this is going to feel
like a warm blanket, something very familiar, but at the
same time it's going to be something very different. Did you,
when you were sitting down with Laverne Cox, say, Okay,
this is as far as we can go, or did
you say, we don't have the limits.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Let's just see where it goes.
Speaker 8 (27:02):
You are the smartest person I've talk to exactly. We
have no limits. Let's just do this, let's deal with it,
and we deal with it with love and laughter. That's
why you're going to enjoy the show. Some things I
don't understand, and you won't understand them with me. Some
things she doesn't know about me, my happiness. But we're
gonna learn to live and love each other. There's gonna
(27:23):
be some tough moments there. I'm having a heart attack
and then she's taking care of me all of a sudden.
That's where the love comes in and you know we
can take care of each other.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
George, I'm not even gonna ask you.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
I'm just gonna make you hold on because I want
to talk to you for a second segment. My guest
on the line right now is the incomparable comedian George Wallace,
who is the star of the new Amazon Prime video
show Clean Slate, which premieres next Thursday, February sixth I'll
have more with George Wallace and more of Clean Slate
(27:55):
in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Kelly one K five A sixty.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
They got me in a hotel here three hundred and
eighty five dollars a night.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
That's what I said.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
I said, woe, I said, I ain't gone no way.
If there's gonna be a show, it's gonna be in
my room. Three hundred and eighty five dollars a night.
They don't want you to steal the towers. I told
the hell of the tars, I'm taking it great.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Sorry.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
This one woke up one morning, thought and have a
light breakfast, ordered some raisin toast.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
The lady came upstairs.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
The raisin toast was seven dollars and twenty five cents
seven dollars into. I told her, I said, you take
this toast back downstairs, and you take six dollars worth
of those raisins off this toast. And I took two
of the raids, and I said, and here's a little
something for yourself to me.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
I really do like your mama.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
I just saw at home depot. You know, you know
her teeth.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
That's so cruety. She got a job making keys.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
But that's a whole story.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeh man, that's a whole different story.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
You ain't gonna me, You ain't gonna just me in
front of all these people here, okay, Rickie smiling. Mama
so fat, she got a real horse on the polo shirt.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
She's so fat.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
When she gets on the elevator, Oh it's going down,
Ricky smile, and Mama.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
So fat to go to the beach.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
We can't see the ocean.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
I love ladies and animal print presses turns me on.
Look at all these lady animal print dress over there.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
That turns me on.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
But some of you ladies, and now when y'all want
these animal print dresses, you can't be larger than the animal.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
That you represent, Lady jiminy Inn.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Other night, when a zebra fifth, Harrybody said, it's a savant,
it's a sava.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
I am continuing my conversation with the very very funny
You heard those clips. You know his name, you know
his work, the very very funny George Wallace as we're
talking about his new TV show, which is from the
late legendary television producer Norman Lear is called Clean Slate
and the premiere's next Thursday, February sixth on Amazon Prime
(30:34):
Video and just to reset. Clean Slate follows Harry, who
is played by George Wallace, an old school car wash
owner in Alabama who has a lot of soul searching
to do when his son leaves and then comes back
twenty three years later as a trans woman. It's really
really funny and can't wait to see all the episodes.
(30:55):
George did you ever have a formal conversation with Laverne
Cox and ask hers like, where is the line as
far as humor versus either hatred or mean spirited comedy?
Because we've heard a lot in the past year or
two about how transgender people have been vilified or talked
about in comedy.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
Well, that's what we're gonna learn in this series as
you watch it. And we had a conversation about just
letting life live. This is mostly about her life right
now and we're all learning this at the same time.
And see it doesn't whatever let me she has.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
That's where we go.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Who was the first to break character and start laughing
during the scene? You were, Laverne.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Well you know it with me because you know I
could be because I'll change lines every year ever seen,
so I know my lines. But you know this could
be plenty yet the time. Let's do another thing. Let's
do it this way, Let's do it that way. And
that's when you know you're having fun, you know. See
Leburne is never the chance, never done comedy committic role.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
But now this is different from her and she's learning and.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
I'm throwing out all kinds of crazy ideas and thoughts.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
That's why it's funny.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
I'm Nan and she's her, and we put it all
together and it's really fun.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Is there a blooper real?
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Are there any outtakes where you said, oh, we can't
put this up on air?
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Hell?
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Yeah, we're more how you said not editor, there's no
such word as eduitor.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Edge year edg year.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
Yeah, you know I went to night school, right, so
but it's a lot of fun. So we go above
the regular television nothing beyond.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Yes, there's an educational component in the way that there
was an educational component of all in the Family and
the Jeffersons, where you try to move society forward, try
to educate them, but not at the same time proselytize
or preach to them. How do you know that you're
hitting the mark with America? Later on after this, he'll
comes out.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
Because it's always as it's a trick and coming and
how to write a joke AB three one two C
A B and with the twist at the end, that's
how we had a very serious how do we handle this?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Let's settle it for the laugh AB three one two C.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
Now are you gonna be watching it? Are you gonna
be watching this win. It premieres on Amazon Prime February sixth.
Are you one to watch your own work?
Speaker 8 (33:26):
See, I've had a problem with it so far. It's
been given to me. But watching me, I guess I'm
pretty good.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
I don't know. They say it, so I'm good.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
I will watch and I will enjoy, and I will
I know it's good we put it like that. I
know it's funny, and I know a message is being
sent most of all, and it's gonna, you know, make
this thing happen, and America is gonna love it. And
even if this country version, you know, even dealing with
the church, you know, the church people.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Sam George's radio, they can't see that.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
I'm looking at you. It may be radio, but they
can't see me on radio. They can see I'm the
greatest of the whole time. People seen me on the
radio and the movies and television. People see me in
on radio. That's what Mama, I leave us to say.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
From legendary television producer Norman Lee, the idea comes from
for this heartfelt new comedy series, Clean Slate, premier on Thursday,
February sixth on Prime Video. It stars Laverne Cox, and
my guest George Wallace, friend of the show, George, I
love you and there's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Nothing do my line in front of me. I just did,
George Wallace, what you gonna do? Hang up on me?
Speaker 8 (34:33):
I'm but then, let me tell you something. People are
using my line. I'm gonna sue you. I love you,
and there's absolutely nothing you can do by it. Byever
you can say that again, You're going to court. We're
going to court in Washington, DC.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Get off my show.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
Hope be a Republican said, you know when we're in.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Bye George, Bye boy.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
I love you, Thank you so much for everything.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Bye George.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
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Speaker 1 (35:03):
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