March 20, 2025 • 31 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Wellness Wednesday with wife, mother, fitness expert, masterful storyteller & regular guest contributor Claudine Cooper AKA ‘The Nice Exercise Lady’ weighing in on a study that reveals “7 Ways You Can Use ChatGPT for Your Mental Health and Wellness” … PLUS – “Science Communicator” Maiya May, joins the program with a preview of her new PBS documentary special, ‘Weathered: Inside the LA Firestorm,’ which “examines the root cause of the LA wildfires and uncovers what communities can do to better prepare for future disasters” – on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And joining me now is the nice exercise Lady Claudine Cooper,
Claudine is good to talk to you again.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
How are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 5 (00:14):
How are you mom?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And I came across this article and it reminded me
painfully in many ways that AI is coming for all
of us, coming for our jobs, going to replace us,
going to somehow insert a wedge between us and other people.
And I saw this article which says seven ways you
can use chat GPT for your mental health and wellness.
(00:38):
I don't work in that space, so I'm not as
intimately connected to it. But when I saw the headline
and I read the article, I was thinking, are we
on the verge of some people losing some jobs? Or
is that too far off?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
I don't think you're wrong. I mean, here's a couple
of things I've noticed. I did read the article that
you sent to me, and I've noticed a few things.
People now they don't have to hire a personal trainer
because they can go on chat GPT and say, hey,
I need a workout specifically for lower body and it'll
literally outline everything you need to know. Pop your headphones on,
(01:17):
go to the gym, don't talk to a single soul,
have your phone up, and it'll tell you everything that
you need to do. Now here's the pitfalls with that.
If you have a one on one trainer and you're
doing an exercise and you're a little bit off in
your technique, the trainer can say, hey, listen, separate your
feet a little bit more, drop your hips a little further.
(01:39):
Things like that that you won't get if you're using chat,
GPT or AI as your personal trainer. But as you know,
I specialize in groups fitness that is related to bringing
people together, which is excellent for the mental health. And
because of that, I don't think my j is replaceable.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
MO.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
That's all I'm saying about that.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
What about the feasibility?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Because although I can picture you working with people and
being able to modify their workouts or adjust subtleties, when
we're talking about mental health, that's a completely different ballgame, seemingly,
because you have someone interacting with artificial intelligence, not looking
them in their eyes, not making that emotional or personal connection.
(02:29):
Can chat GPT as it's presently constructed offer something for
someone who is concerned about increasing their mental health or
mental wellness.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Ooh, that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
So in the article, what it was saying was that
there are people who actually go on chat GPT to
use it as a therapist.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
And I had never heard anything like this before.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
But look, kind of I'm not as well versed in
chat GPS and AI. I think maybe we need to
bring in Marsha into the conversation, you know, our tech lady. Yeah,
but I do know enough about it because I am
living in the house with teenagers and chatchept and AI
(03:16):
is all the rave when it comes to the young
people and doing their research projects, their school homework and
things like that. But that's a sidebar conversation. I'll keep
it to this. I would have never thought to go
on chat GPT and say, hey, I'm having a difficult
time connecting with a person in my life. Can you
give me some tips? But when I read the article,
(03:38):
I realize that there are people who are using chat.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
GPT for things like this.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
And although chatchept will give you the responses that you
need if you're having a difficult conversation or a difficult
time connecting with a certain person. There's nothing that can
compare to eye contact, at least that's me with my
fifty year old But what.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Say you, mo, I think the eye contact is essential
because we're talking about human connection and how do we
first connect through the eyes, through the physical acknowledgment of
the presence of someone else.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's why if we happen to be.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
On zoom, it's always more preferable to have your camera on.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So there is a level of connection.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
That's the level of connection that I don't think is
possible through a prompt and script or even artificial intelligence.
But according to the article we were talking about, it
is being used by people as organization for a brain
dump or you can just let everything out without fear
of judgment, provide psycho education of brainstorming, coping strategies, organizing
(04:45):
your to do lists. Almost an assistant more than just
artificial intelligence. I don't disagree or debate the fact that
it probably has some usefulness. I do wonder whether it
can help someone one who may be dealing with particular
issues or complications in their emotional well being.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Okay, so basically what I found, what I read, or
how I interpreted it was that Let's say you have
trouble with time management and you need to organize your
to do lists. You can go into chap GPT and
do a brain dump and they will help you organize
and manage your time.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
But you still have to be the executor. You still
have to take that action.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Yes, chat GPT can help you and it can tell
you what you need to do, but if you're not
doing it, is it really helpful at the end of
the day. Right, And today, while I was at the gym,
I was on the main floor, which is where the
strength training the beefcake guys go and lift the weights, right,
And so I was talking to one of the guys
and he was like, oh, you know, today is the
(05:55):
one year anniversary of my mother's passing. And because I
don't go on social media and I don't use any
of the technology that's at our fingertips, I want to
show you a picture of my mom.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And I thought that was so special. Mo, And I'm
gonna tell you why.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Because there are people who are yearning for human connection,
but they don't want to put themselves out into the
world on the Internet, and so they're looking to connect
in person. And one of the best places to do
that is still the gym. There's other places. There's church,
there's sorority and fraternity meetings, but it is still a
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great place to connect.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
The gym there if I were to read in what
you were saying, and please correct me if I'm wrong,
there is no substitute for the human connection, the physical interaction,
to be able to enjoy the commonality of just being
human together.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I feel like that is one of the things that
we are missing, And you're right, the nail on the head,
there's nothing that can quite compare to that eye contact,
that human to human interaction, and him just wanting to
share that it was one year of his mother's passing
and let me show you a picture of her real
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simple didn't take more than two minutes of my time
to just say I see you, I hear you, I'm
standing with you in your grieve today, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And no social media was involved.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Nor chat gpt not to sell it short. I don't
think he could have done anything for that individual or
anyone else who was looking for an emotional acknowledgment and
recognition of this moment of his mother's passing. Yes, yes,
when we come back, we're getting close to spring. It's
(07:48):
daylight saving time. The more sunlight to the day, love it,
love it, love it. And so when we come back
Cloning Cooper, I want to go into I'll guess the
psychology of how people maybe are more inclined to get
into the gym, maybe start thinking about that bikini or
beach body as it were, and how people not only
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their physical bodies change, but their psychology also changes. Can
you do that for me, Claudine, I'm ready when you are.
It's Later with Mo Kelly. I'm speaking with the nice
exercise lady, Claudie Cooper. Go to Claudiancooper dot com to
find out more about her, and we'll have more in
just a moment. CAFI AM six forty Live everywhere in
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Speaker 1 (08:26):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
KFI Mo Kelly and Claudiane Cooper go to Claudiancooper dot com.
We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And Claudine,
as I look outside, the sun's finally gone down, but
I had sunlight up until the time of the start
of my show. Obviously, the days are getting longer some
kids are on spring break right now, which is weird
(08:52):
for me because my spring break growing up with always
tied to the Easter weekend. It's not like that anymore,
depending on school district. But I wonder in what you
do now that we are trending towards spring, now that
there are more hours of sunlight in the day, Now
that people may be thinking about getting themselves their beach
body or their revenge body, or whatever it may be,
(09:14):
which motivates them. What type of trends or changes in
people's psychology or motivation do you see in the gym?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Wow, Well you've just asked a multitude of questions. My
head is spinning, but I gotta say this Spring is
always a great time in the gym. People are prepping
for summer, for sure, maybe getting ready for their spring
break vacations. My daughter just came in town last week,
so she was home for spring break. And like you,
(09:45):
I remember spring break being the week before Easter or
the week after Easter. This year, Easter doesn't fall until
the end of April, so people are having their spring
breaks a little bit earlier. My daughter and I had
a wonderful time together bring break that home this year,
I feel like seasonal depression is real, and I think, yeah,
(10:09):
I think we have to I think we have to
just go there. Because we already talked about how chat
GPT is being used as a therapist.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
So one of the things you might ask chat GPT is.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
How do I get over my seasonal depression? And the
truth is, we just need a little bit more outside time,
a little bit more daylight, a little bit more sunlight.
And so what I'm noticing, and this is just my
observation because I see hundreds of people every day, I'm
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noticing a lightness, a happiness, a greater amount of joy
and connection between people. And maybe I'm imagining things mo,
but I really attribute this to the longer days and
to the change of seasons.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I don't think that's your imagination. It's been well documented
that the winter months brings about more depression for people,
more sorrow, people might be emotionally down during the holidays.
All of that figures together, But does that change how
you in your profession interact with others well?
Speaker 5 (11:20):
As you know, I love being outside, I love going outside,
I love working out outside, and you know, the weather.
Although we are in southern California, there is a shift,
even though it's not a huge seasonal shift like you
have in the Midwest. But I will tell you I've
noticed more people showing up to my outdoor workouts on
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Saturday mornings. We had close to one hundred people when
it was sunny and bright and warm. You know, it's
definitely a difference in what I do. My classes in
the gym are even more crowded than usual. People are
showing up for themselves in ways that when you're cozy
at home eating your comfort food and it's cold outside
(12:03):
and it's dark at night, you don't feel as compelled
to get up go to Pilate's class, get up, go
to the gym. It's a lot more challenging when the
weather is cold or when the days are short to
get up and be motivated to workout. So I have
seen a big difference.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Since you have seen that big difference, and you made
mention of your free community workouts on Saturday and more
than a hundred people came out before. What are you
expecting for this approaching weekend? And also let's remind people
how they can be part of it.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Well, one never knows what's gonna happen. I mean, the
weather has been a little tricky. I mean it was
raining last week and then boom the day of my workout,
it was funny. So you just never know. I'll say
it doesn't matter to me if I have ten people
or one hundred and ten people, I'm still going to
give people a great workout. It's no equipment needed, no mats,
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nothing except for a positive attitude and a willingness to work.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
You just come there.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
We have free parking, a farmer's market, a free workout.
It's right in the middle of Inglewood. I kind of
don't know if people know the area yet. Last night
I was walking home from workm and there were guys
walking around and they were like, wait, so Sofi Stadium
is over there, and then the Clippers Arena is right there,
and they were.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Like, so what is this And I was like, oh,
this is a gym.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
They're like a gym is here too, and they were
so flabberg acid because they're like what is going on
around here? Like they didn't know nothing about this. And
I say that to say maybe people listening don't know either.
But there's this little intersection Century Boulevard and Prairie. We
have a huge new development where Sofi Stadium in Hollywood
Park Casino, and all of these things are in the
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same little area, the Into It Dome Posum. We have
a lot of things going on right here, but in
the middle of it, I host a free workout every
Saturday at nine am, and you're welcome to join.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I have done it on a few occasions. It is
well worth your time and well worth your energy. And
there's something about being outside. You made mentioned in this earlier,
but I want to highlight it one more time. There's
something about being outside in that communal element we were
talking earlier about chat GPT and lacking that human interaction
and connection. It's something that improves your workout and inspires
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your workout. That's just from my first person experience of it,
and it made it all that more rewarding at the end.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Well, it's that too.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
But since we're talking about mental and emotional wellness, there
is well documented data that suggests that when you are
working out outside and with people, that's like a trifecta.
It's the exercise, it's the mental wellness, and it's the
human connection that really brings us back into our bodies
and centers us. So I would love to see anyone
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who's open to just showing up. Don't need a lot
of details, no registration necessary, just show up.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And then show out. She's Claudian Cooper. Find out more
at Claudianecooper dot com. We're always pleased to have the
nice exercise lady. And you think, well, where does that
come from? That came from Mark Ronner and it just stuck.
Claudian is always good to see you, and I hope
to see you and talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I'll see you next week.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Mol thank you for having me and I look forward
to meeting up again soon.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's Later with mo Kelly caf I AM six forty
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Speaker 1 (15:29):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And Yes, Dodger Baseball is underway. Maybe you haven't been
following it, but the Dodgers are now too and zero
after sweeping the Chicago Cubs in Tokyo, Japan. Yes, they
kicked off the season in Tokyo, Japan. If you've never
been to Japan, and I haven't been to Japan, but
I know as far as being in Asia, the sports
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experience is very different. You will have fans who don't
make a lot of noise until there was something exciting.
You're not going to have trash fan behavior. They're much
more respectful of players in the game, of course than
in the United States. And what I've seen on the
replays of the games, because I did not get up
at two three in the morning to watch the Dodgers
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play in Japan.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I love them, but not that much.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But what I have seen on the replay is the
love and embrace of American baseball by Japan And if
you know the Dodgers and you know Chicago Cubs, they're
enough Japanese players where it really turned into an event.
And to talk about the impact of players like Sasaki
(16:40):
and Otani and others, there was this clip on ESPN
by Jeff Passen. He was speaking to Pat McAfee on
his show, and Passing puts it in perspective, how important
not only are Japanese players to Major League baseball, but
also the future of the sport.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
How often will we have this type of international crossover
going forward? I mean, show, hey is the reason for
everything in baseball now? Right like it's it's been a
quarter century since baseball's had a star like a like
an star with international appeal like Sho hey O Tani
and the fact that they can go to Tokyo and
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it's not just shohy right. Yoshinobu Yamamoto starts the game
for the Dodgers. Show to Imanaga starts the game for
the Cubs. Steya Suzuki is hitting second for the Cubs.
Show he is hitting leadoff. Roki Sasaki is starting Game
two for the Dodgers. You know, baseball has been trying
to catch up internationally to other sports over the last
decade or so, and we had the games in Korea
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last year, and they've gone to Japan before. You know,
I remember back in two thousand and eight, the A's
and the Red Sox started the season there and that
was my first time visiting Japan. So this isn't anything
that's new necessarily, but there's just a lot more resonance
now because Japan is such an integral part of where
baseball is now and where it wants to be. And listen,
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there are not not a lot of countries around the
world pat where baseball is the number one sport. It
is unquestionably so in Japan. So to see the game
start in that environment, to CEO Tony get to play
in front of a country where he's absolutely revered, I
think was a really cool thing for the sport.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh oh well, I almost forgot.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
There was this one semi controversial moment where a fan
and it's someone you might know, a fan, tried to
catch it actually was successful in catching a foul ball
and getting it away from I wouldn't say he got
it away from Max Munsey, the Dodgers player, but he
was very close to making contact with Max Mounsey. It
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was a foul ball down the third base line. They
have these protective nets and then months he had to
reach into the crowd and over the net to get
the ball. It turned out it was right Pete as
in klac AM five seventy LA Sports Rodney Pete, Holly
Robinson Pete. His wife posted it on social media, was
covered by sports everywhere, and if you don't know, there's
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always been this ongoing conversation and also conflict between players
and fans when a ball is actually in the player's
domain and when it's actually in the fans domain. And
it's well understood that if a ball goes into the crowd.
In other words, it's not in the field of play.
It's open to the fans. You know, Yeah, fans are
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going to reach for it. Fans are gonna go for
the ball. Fans gonna want a souvenir. And Roddy Pete,
even though he was a former professional football player, he
is still a Dodgers fan and a sports fan more generally,
he wanted a souvenir. He got a souvenir. And when
you see the video, I'm going to play the audio
in just a second, but when you see the video,
Max Munsey reaches for the ball and Roddy Pete's glove
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is underneath Max Munsey's glove, So, in other words, it
had to pass Max. And Rodney Pete did not actually
interfere with Max Munsey. Now, he might have distracted him,
and if you see the video, Max Munsey is not
happy at all. I don't think he recognized Rodney Pete.
And Rodney Pete obviously was not trying to interfere, but
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he really didn't interfere with with Max Munsey.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Listen to this.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Delivery is popped up.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Third base side over his buncie and he reaches.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Over he made the catch cause he vacon. He did
not go.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Oh my goodness, and looked like it was in his glove.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
For a moment.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Oh no, the other guy called, oh, it's the other
black cloth that was out there.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Muncey me personally, I've never caught a foul ball. I've
touched a foul ball. I should have caught one on
this given day. It was at Dodger Stadium. Ishmael Valdez
was a pitcher. I remember was a foul down the
first base line. I was midway up on the first
base line and it hit me in my palm and
bounced away. As the closest I've ever gotten to an
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actual foul ball or souvenir, and it will bother me
for the rest of my life because I always wanted
to have a souvenir. But let me get back to
the Dodgers. The Dodgers are forecasts. There are the favorites
to win the World Series this year. They have the
best pap team on paper in probably a quarter century.
There is so much hitting and so much pitching on
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this team that they are the prohibitive favorites.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Will they get there? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
You have one hundred and sixty two games, one hundred
and sixty or left there now two to zero, and
anything can happen, especially when it comes to pitchers and
arm injuries, and just the long aspect of the season
where players get tired, players get injured, and sometimes other
teams just get hot. That's why they play the games.
It's not about what they look like on paper. But
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these Dodgers look out standing, and I'm going to follow them,
hopefully to a repeat World Series champion. When we come back,
I'll be joined on the line by Maya may who's
the host of Weathered Inside the LA Firestorm, which is
coming up on PBS at ten o'clock tonight. We're going
to get a last minute looking in at that and
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also maybe some perspective now that we're a few weeks
out on the fires and what we've learned about them.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Since you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
This fire is different. I'm Weathered host Miama, and we're
on the ground talking to survivors, first responders, and experts.
We're living through one of the worst fires in American history.
To see what happened and how the people of La
are fighting back and adapting to a hotter, drier, and
more dangerous reality. Weather Inside the LA.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Firestorm kf I am six forty years later with Moe Kelly.
We're Live Everywhere, the iHeartRadio app premiering tonight at ten
pm on PBS Weathered Inside the LA Firestorm examines the
root cause of the LA wildfires and uncovers what communities
can do to better prepare for future disasters. Hosted by
storyteller and weather expert Miami, the special interviews of survivors, scientists,
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first responders, and public officials will hopefully help us understand
the history and science behind the urban firestorms here in
the US. Miama joins me now on the show, Maya,
thank you for coming on tonight.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I'm good? How you John?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
But I have a particular interest in this story that
you're going to tell because I know that my reference
point is skewed.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I live in LA.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I was covering these fires as it happened, but I
also probably was too close to it to have adequate perspective.
How did you approach this or view this as you
began researching the fires?
Speaker 7 (24:08):
I was like many people, most people not in La
watching from Afar and being horrified at what I was seeing.
But luckily, and a lots of people don't realize this.
The director of our show, he is a fire expert,
and this special wasn't like we didn't have our We
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don't do these types of specials normally, but PBS knew
that we our whole our show is directed by this
you know, amazing journalist who's done a lot of work
on wildfires. He's created a fire feature film as well,
and they trusted us to tell this story and he
led a lot of of what you know, we talk
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about in the show. Obviously he's the director, but yeah,
he led the charge here. But for me, just you know,
as as the the communicator and the messenger for this story.
It was very interesting. There's a lot of mixed emotions.
I learned a lot, the main thing being that these
types of disasters don't have to happen, and there are things,
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very small things, fairly inexpensive, things that we can do
to harden our homes. That's really the main thing that
we can do to stop large scale urban fires from
happening on a large scale, very easy things that we
can do, and I'm excited for people to see the
film and get this very useful information.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Correct, but if I'm wrong, but they're probably two facets
to this. Yes, there's things that we can do individually,
as you mentioned, like to harden our homes. But we've
also seen all sorts of extreme weather events in recent years.
In fact, the Midwest and South are dealing with it
right now. What are we seeing in a weather or
climate since that we've not seen in previous decades before
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In terms.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Of this story and this particular event weather event being
the wildfires, it's temperature and that plays a role and
quite a few of the crazy natural disasters that we've
experienced in recent years in recent months and weeks. I
don't know about the line of storms that came through
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this weekend. That always happens, you know, severe weather. There's
a lot more research that needs to be done to
kind of attribute rise in Tornados, for example, to climate change.
But we know that increased temperatures as it relates to
the fire that happened in La play the role. When
you have a warmer atmosphere, it sucks more moisture out
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of the vegetation and California before twenty twenty four experienced
two really wet years. You had these really wet years,
You had all this vegetation that resulted from those wet
years being dried out as we entered into the summer
of twenty twenty four. I don't think you guys can't
get any rain for eight months. Yea. So on top
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of the there was no rain, you have increased temperatures,
and we know temperatures are increasing on average. That also
contributed to the drying out of these fuels, and that
is what fed the fire. And again once it once
it reached urban communities, it was just it was like
a runaway freight train. There was really nothing that could
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have been done. There's a lot of the weather aspect
that played a role here and that play continues to
play a role on large scale.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Let's talk more about that, and let's talk about these
LA fires. Investigations are ongoing, and blame is going to
be parsed that I'm not going to put that on
your shoulder. But in your conversations in wheathered inside the
LA firestorm, what were some of your other observations, your analyzes,
what if any other conclusions have you arrived at.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Yeah, so I mean everyone was talking about the lack
of resources, right. There were a lot of people that
were very angry, and that happens. I think that's human nature.
After a a crazy disaster like this, you know, people
naturally are gonna want to point the finger. How what
(28:08):
happened here? Someone had to have dropped the ball. And
I made a point to ask every single fire official
that I spoke to, every climate scientist, would there have
been enough resources to stop this fire once it reached
urban communities? And the answer is no. There wouldn't have
been enough firefighters, there wouldn't have been enough water, there
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wouldn't have been enough force management that could have helped
once it reached that first home in those conditions because
our communities weren't building in a way to be resilient
to these climate related disasters that we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's a question of infrastructure and planning, and maybe we
would not have been able to change the end result.
But is there a conversation to be had about what
we could have done better or should have done better
before it got to those urban communities, because I think
we all can agree once it got to the urban communities,
it was all over.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
At that point. And nothing could be done.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
But from what you've seen, you've experienced, your conversations, was
there something that could have been done in this particular
occasion without calling out any particular names, that might have
alleviated some of the subsequent disaster.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
I don't believe in this situation. I mean, like I said,
the conditions were just so so primed. Imagine doing forest
management for thousands and thousands and thousands of acres in
this eight month period leading up to the disaster. Like
I know, you know, we want to point to you know,
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some person, some human. Mother Nature is fierce and we're
seeing that. I think we're seeing just how relentless Mother
Nature is in the face of of our changing climate.
Like I said, there's just so much built up vegetation
from those two years, those those extremely wet years that
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that California experienced, and then once we got to that drought.
I mean, there's just not much that could have been
done once we had that red flag warning. I mean,
people were predicting it. All you needed at that point
was was a spark, and you know people, people knew
this was going to happen. So yes, yes, like we
definitely need to be thinking about more resources in that sense. Yes,
(30:33):
we need more firefighters, more water, you know, better better
management of land in that sense. But I think the
biggest conversation that needs to come out of the special
is adaptation and how we are building and where we're
where we're building. Mother Nature is gonna mother nature either way.
But how can we continue to to build in a
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way that humanity can thrive on this planet. I think
that needs to be the conversation for Bering.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Later tonight, right after our show at ten pm on
PBS Weathered Inside the LA Firestorm, hosted by journalists, weather expert, storyteller,
and science communicator.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
You got a lot of titles.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I may got a lot of titles, but you've earned
them all science communicator.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
We'll go with science communicator. That's going.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Thank you for coming on tonight.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
Thank you so much, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's Later with mo Kelly KFI AM six forty live
everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
And joining me now is the nice exercise Lady Claudine Cooper,
Claudine is good to talk to you again.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
How are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 5 (00:14):
How are you mom?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And I came across this article and it reminded me
painfully in many ways that AI is coming for all
of us, coming for our jobs, going to replace us,
going to somehow insert a wedge between us and other people.
And I saw this article which says seven ways you
can use chat GPT for your mental health and wellness.
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I don't work in that space, so I'm not as
intimately connected to it. But when I saw the headline
and I read the article, I was thinking, are we
on the verge of some people losing some jobs? Or
is that too far off?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
I don't think you're wrong. I mean, here's a couple
of things I've noticed. I did read the article that
you sent to me, and I've noticed a few things.
People now they don't have to hire a personal trainer
because they can go on chat GPT and say, hey,
I need a workout specifically for lower body and it'll
literally outline everything you need to know. Pop your headphones on,
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go to the gym, don't talk to a single soul,
have your phone up, and it'll tell you everything that
you need to do. Now here's the pitfalls with that.
If you have a one on one trainer and you're
doing an exercise and you're a little bit off in
your technique, the trainer can say, hey, listen, separate your
feet a little bit more, drop your hips a little further.
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Things like that that you won't get if you're using chat,
GPT or AI as your personal trainer. But as you know,
I specialize in groups fitness that is related to bringing
people together, which is excellent for the mental health. And
because of that, I don't think my j is replaceable.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
MO.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
That's all I'm saying about that.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
What about the feasibility?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Because although I can picture you working with people and
being able to modify their workouts or adjust subtleties, when
we're talking about mental health, that's a completely different ballgame, seemingly,
because you have someone interacting with artificial intelligence, not looking
them in their eyes, not making that emotional or personal connection.
(02:29):
Can chat GPT as it's presently constructed offer something for
someone who is concerned about increasing their mental health or
mental wellness.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Ooh, that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
So in the article, what it was saying was that
there are people who actually go on chat GPT to
use it as a therapist.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
And I had never heard anything like this before.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
But look, kind of I'm not as well versed in
chat GPS and AI. I think maybe we need to
bring in Marsha into the conversation, you know, our tech lady. Yeah,
but I do know enough about it because I am
living in the house with teenagers and chatchept and AI
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is all the rave when it comes to the young
people and doing their research projects, their school homework and
things like that. But that's a sidebar conversation. I'll keep
it to this. I would have never thought to go
on chat GPT and say, hey, I'm having a difficult
time connecting with a person in my life. Can you
give me some tips? But when I read the article,
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I realize that there are people who are using chat.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
GPT for things like this.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
And although chatchept will give you the responses that you
need if you're having a difficult conversation or a difficult
time connecting with a certain person. There's nothing that can
compare to eye contact, at least that's me with my
fifty year old But what.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Say you, mo, I think the eye contact is essential
because we're talking about human connection and how do we
first connect through the eyes, through the physical acknowledgment of
the presence of someone else.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's why if we happen to be.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
On zoom, it's always more preferable to have your camera on.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So there is a level of connection.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
That's the level of connection that I don't think is
possible through a prompt and script or even artificial intelligence.
But according to the article we were talking about, it
is being used by people as organization for a brain
dump or you can just let everything out without fear
of judgment, provide psycho education of brainstorming, coping strategies, organizing
(04:45):
your to do lists. Almost an assistant more than just
artificial intelligence. I don't disagree or debate the fact that
it probably has some usefulness. I do wonder whether it
can help someone one who may be dealing with particular
issues or complications in their emotional well being.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Okay, so basically what I found, what I read, or
how I interpreted it was that Let's say you have
trouble with time management and you need to organize your
to do lists. You can go into chap GPT and
do a brain dump and they will help you organize
and manage your time.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
But you still have to be the executor. You still
have to take that action.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Yes, chat GPT can help you and it can tell
you what you need to do, but if you're not
doing it, is it really helpful at the end of
the day. Right, And today, while I was at the gym,
I was on the main floor, which is where the
strength training the beefcake guys go and lift the weights, right,
And so I was talking to one of the guys
and he was like, oh, you know, today is the
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one year anniversary of my mother's passing. And because I
don't go on social media and I don't use any
of the technology that's at our fingertips, I want to
show you a picture of my mom.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And I thought that was so special. Mo, And I'm
gonna tell you why.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Because there are people who are yearning for human connection,
but they don't want to put themselves out into the
world on the Internet, and so they're looking to connect
in person. And one of the best places to do
that is still the gym. There's other places. There's church,
there's sorority and fraternity meetings, but it is still a
(06:35):
great place to connect.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
The gym there if I were to read in what
you were saying, and please correct me if I'm wrong,
there is no substitute for the human connection, the physical interaction,
to be able to enjoy the commonality of just being
human together.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I feel like that is one of the things that
we are missing, And you're right, the nail on the head,
there's nothing that can quite compare to that eye contact,
that human to human interaction, and him just wanting to
share that it was one year of his mother's passing
and let me show you a picture of her real
(07:14):
simple didn't take more than two minutes of my time
to just say I see you, I hear you, I'm
standing with you in your grieve today, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And no social media was involved.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Nor chat gpt not to sell it short. I don't
think he could have done anything for that individual or
anyone else who was looking for an emotional acknowledgment and
recognition of this moment of his mother's passing. Yes, yes,
when we come back, we're getting close to spring. It's
(07:48):
daylight saving time. The more sunlight to the day, love it,
love it, love it. And so when we come back
Cloning Cooper, I want to go into I'll guess the
psychology of how people maybe are more inclined to get
into the gym, maybe start thinking about that bikini or
beach body as it were, and how people not only
(08:08):
their physical bodies change, but their psychology also changes. Can
you do that for me, Claudine, I'm ready when you are.
It's Later with Mo Kelly. I'm speaking with the nice
exercise lady, Claudie Cooper. Go to Claudiancooper dot com to
find out more about her, and we'll have more in
just a moment. CAFI AM six forty Live everywhere in
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
KFI Mo Kelly and Claudiane Cooper go to Claudiancooper dot com.
We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And Claudine,
as I look outside, the sun's finally gone down, but
I had sunlight up until the time of the start
of my show. Obviously, the days are getting longer some
kids are on spring break right now, which is weird
(08:52):
for me because my spring break growing up with always
tied to the Easter weekend. It's not like that anymore,
depending on school district. But I wonder in what you
do now that we are trending towards spring, now that
there are more hours of sunlight in the day, Now
that people may be thinking about getting themselves their beach
body or their revenge body, or whatever it may be,
(09:14):
which motivates them. What type of trends or changes in
people's psychology or motivation do you see in the gym?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Wow, Well you've just asked a multitude of questions. My
head is spinning, but I gotta say this Spring is
always a great time in the gym. People are prepping
for summer, for sure, maybe getting ready for their spring
break vacations. My daughter just came in town last week,
so she was home for spring break. And like you,
(09:45):
I remember spring break being the week before Easter or
the week after Easter. This year, Easter doesn't fall until
the end of April, so people are having their spring
breaks a little bit earlier. My daughter and I had
a wonderful time together bring break that home this year,
I feel like seasonal depression is real, and I think, yeah,
(10:09):
I think we have to I think we have to
just go there. Because we already talked about how chat
GPT is being used as a therapist.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
So one of the things you might ask chat GPT is.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
How do I get over my seasonal depression? And the
truth is, we just need a little bit more outside time,
a little bit more daylight, a little bit more sunlight.
And so what I'm noticing, and this is just my
observation because I see hundreds of people every day, I'm
(10:42):
noticing a lightness, a happiness, a greater amount of joy
and connection between people. And maybe I'm imagining things mo,
but I really attribute this to the longer days and
to the change of seasons.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I don't think that's your imagination. It's been well documented
that the winter months brings about more depression for people,
more sorrow, people might be emotionally down during the holidays.
All of that figures together, But does that change how
you in your profession interact with others well?
Speaker 5 (11:20):
As you know, I love being outside, I love going outside,
I love working out outside, and you know, the weather.
Although we are in southern California, there is a shift,
even though it's not a huge seasonal shift like you
have in the Midwest. But I will tell you I've
noticed more people showing up to my outdoor workouts on
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Saturday mornings. We had close to one hundred people when
it was sunny and bright and warm. You know, it's
definitely a difference in what I do. My classes in
the gym are even more crowded than usual. People are
showing up for themselves in ways that when you're cozy
at home eating your comfort food and it's cold outside
(12:03):
and it's dark at night, you don't feel as compelled
to get up go to Pilate's class, get up, go
to the gym. It's a lot more challenging when the
weather is cold or when the days are short to
get up and be motivated to workout. So I have
seen a big difference.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Since you have seen that big difference, and you made
mention of your free community workouts on Saturday and more
than a hundred people came out before. What are you
expecting for this approaching weekend? And also let's remind people
how they can be part of it.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Well, one never knows what's gonna happen. I mean, the
weather has been a little tricky. I mean it was
raining last week and then boom the day of my workout,
it was funny. So you just never know. I'll say
it doesn't matter to me if I have ten people
or one hundred and ten people, I'm still going to
give people a great workout. It's no equipment needed, no mats,
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nothing except for a positive attitude and a willingness to work.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
You just come there.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
We have free parking, a farmer's market, a free workout.
It's right in the middle of Inglewood. I kind of
don't know if people know the area yet. Last night
I was walking home from workm and there were guys
walking around and they were like, wait, so Sofi Stadium
is over there, and then the Clippers Arena is right there,
and they were.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Like, so what is this And I was like, oh,
this is a gym.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
They're like a gym is here too, and they were
so flabberg acid because they're like what is going on
around here? Like they didn't know nothing about this. And
I say that to say maybe people listening don't know either.
But there's this little intersection Century Boulevard and Prairie. We
have a huge new development where Sofi Stadium in Hollywood
Park Casino, and all of these things are in the
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same little area, the Into It Dome Posum. We have
a lot of things going on right here, but in
the middle of it, I host a free workout every
Saturday at nine am, and you're welcome to join.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I have done it on a few occasions. It is
well worth your time and well worth your energy. And
there's something about being outside. You made mentioned in this earlier,
but I want to highlight it one more time. There's
something about being outside in that communal element we were
talking earlier about chat GPT and lacking that human interaction
and connection. It's something that improves your workout and inspires
(14:26):
your workout. That's just from my first person experience of it,
and it made it all that more rewarding at the end.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Well, it's that too.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
But since we're talking about mental and emotional wellness, there
is well documented data that suggests that when you are
working out outside and with people, that's like a trifecta.
It's the exercise, it's the mental wellness, and it's the
human connection that really brings us back into our bodies
and centers us. So I would love to see anyone
(14:57):
who's open to just showing up. Don't need a lot
of details, no registration necessary, just show up.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And then show out. She's Claudian Cooper. Find out more
at Claudianecooper dot com. We're always pleased to have the
nice exercise lady. And you think, well, where does that
come from? That came from Mark Ronner and it just stuck.
Claudian is always good to see you, and I hope
to see you and talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I'll see you next week.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Mol thank you for having me and I look forward
to meeting up again soon.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's Later with mo Kelly caf I AM six forty
live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And Yes, Dodger Baseball is underway. Maybe you haven't been
following it, but the Dodgers are now too and zero
after sweeping the Chicago Cubs in Tokyo, Japan. Yes, they
kicked off the season in Tokyo, Japan. If you've never
been to Japan, and I haven't been to Japan, but
I know as far as being in Asia, the sports
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experience is very different. You will have fans who don't
make a lot of noise until there was something exciting.
You're not going to have trash fan behavior. They're much
more respectful of players in the game, of course than
in the United States. And what I've seen on the
replays of the games, because I did not get up
at two three in the morning to watch the Dodgers
(16:16):
play in Japan.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I love them, but not that much.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But what I have seen on the replay is the
love and embrace of American baseball by Japan And if
you know the Dodgers and you know Chicago Cubs, they're
enough Japanese players where it really turned into an event.
And to talk about the impact of players like Sasaki
(16:40):
and Otani and others, there was this clip on ESPN
by Jeff Passen. He was speaking to Pat McAfee on
his show, and Passing puts it in perspective, how important
not only are Japanese players to Major League baseball, but
also the future of the sport.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
How often will we have this type of international crossover
going forward? I mean, show, hey is the reason for
everything in baseball now? Right like it's it's been a
quarter century since baseball's had a star like a like
an star with international appeal like Sho hey O Tani
and the fact that they can go to Tokyo and
(17:20):
it's not just shohy right. Yoshinobu Yamamoto starts the game
for the Dodgers. Show to Imanaga starts the game for
the Cubs. Steya Suzuki is hitting second for the Cubs.
Show he is hitting leadoff. Roki Sasaki is starting Game
two for the Dodgers. You know, baseball has been trying
to catch up internationally to other sports over the last
decade or so, and we had the games in Korea
(17:43):
last year, and they've gone to Japan before. You know,
I remember back in two thousand and eight, the A's
and the Red Sox started the season there and that
was my first time visiting Japan. So this isn't anything
that's new necessarily, but there's just a lot more resonance
now because Japan is such an integral part of where
baseball is now and where it wants to be. And listen,
(18:04):
there are not not a lot of countries around the
world pat where baseball is the number one sport. It
is unquestionably so in Japan. So to see the game
start in that environment, to CEO Tony get to play
in front of a country where he's absolutely revered, I
think was a really cool thing for the sport.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh oh well, I almost forgot.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
There was this one semi controversial moment where a fan
and it's someone you might know, a fan, tried to
catch it actually was successful in catching a foul ball
and getting it away from I wouldn't say he got
it away from Max Munsey, the Dodgers player, but he
was very close to making contact with Max Mounsey. It
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was a foul ball down the third base line. They
have these protective nets and then months he had to
reach into the crowd and over the net to get
the ball. It turned out it was right Pete as
in klac AM five seventy LA Sports Rodney Pete, Holly
Robinson Pete. His wife posted it on social media, was
covered by sports everywhere, and if you don't know, there's
(19:12):
always been this ongoing conversation and also conflict between players
and fans when a ball is actually in the player's
domain and when it's actually in the fans domain. And
it's well understood that if a ball goes into the crowd.
In other words, it's not in the field of play.
It's open to the fans. You know, Yeah, fans are
(19:32):
going to reach for it. Fans are gonna go for
the ball. Fans gonna want a souvenir. And Roddy Pete,
even though he was a former professional football player, he
is still a Dodgers fan and a sports fan more generally,
he wanted a souvenir. He got a souvenir. And when
you see the video, I'm going to play the audio
in just a second, but when you see the video,
Max Munsey reaches for the ball and Roddy Pete's glove
(19:54):
is underneath Max Munsey's glove, So, in other words, it
had to pass Max. And Rodney Pete did not actually
interfere with Max Munsey. Now, he might have distracted him,
and if you see the video, Max Munsey is not
happy at all. I don't think he recognized Rodney Pete.
And Rodney Pete obviously was not trying to interfere, but
(20:16):
he really didn't interfere with with Max Munsey.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Listen to this.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Delivery is popped up.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Third base side over his buncie and he reaches.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Over he made the catch cause he vacon. He did
not go.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Oh my goodness, and looked like it was in his glove.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
For a moment.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Oh no, the other guy called, oh, it's the other
black cloth that was out there.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Muncey me personally, I've never caught a foul ball. I've
touched a foul ball. I should have caught one on
this given day. It was at Dodger Stadium. Ishmael Valdez
was a pitcher. I remember was a foul down the
first base line. I was midway up on the first
base line and it hit me in my palm and
bounced away. As the closest I've ever gotten to an
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actual foul ball or souvenir, and it will bother me
for the rest of my life because I always wanted
to have a souvenir. But let me get back to
the Dodgers. The Dodgers are forecasts. There are the favorites
to win the World Series this year. They have the
best pap team on paper in probably a quarter century.
There is so much hitting and so much pitching on
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this team that they are the prohibitive favorites.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Will they get there? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
You have one hundred and sixty two games, one hundred
and sixty or left there now two to zero, and
anything can happen, especially when it comes to pitchers and
arm injuries, and just the long aspect of the season
where players get tired, players get injured, and sometimes other
teams just get hot. That's why they play the games.
It's not about what they look like on paper. But
(21:54):
these Dodgers look out standing, and I'm going to follow them,
hopefully to a repeat World Series champion. When we come back,
I'll be joined on the line by Maya may who's
the host of Weathered Inside the LA Firestorm, which is
coming up on PBS at ten o'clock tonight. We're going
to get a last minute looking in at that and
(22:15):
also maybe some perspective now that we're a few weeks
out on the fires and what we've learned about them.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Since you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
This fire is different. I'm Weathered host Miama, and we're
on the ground talking to survivors, first responders, and experts.
We're living through one of the worst fires in American history.
To see what happened and how the people of La
are fighting back and adapting to a hotter, drier, and
more dangerous reality. Weather Inside the LA.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Firestorm kf I am six forty years later with Moe Kelly.
We're Live Everywhere, the iHeartRadio app premiering tonight at ten
pm on PBS Weathered Inside the LA Firestorm examines the
root cause of the LA wildfires and uncovers what communities
can do to better prepare for future disasters. Hosted by
storyteller and weather expert Miami, the special interviews of survivors, scientists,
(23:34):
first responders, and public officials will hopefully help us understand
the history and science behind the urban firestorms here in
the US. Miama joins me now on the show, Maya,
thank you for coming on tonight.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I'm good? How you John?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
But I have a particular interest in this story that
you're going to tell because I know that my reference
point is skewed.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I live in LA.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I was covering these fires as it happened, but I
also probably was too close to it to have adequate perspective.
How did you approach this or view this as you
began researching the fires?
Speaker 7 (24:08):
I was like many people, most people not in La
watching from Afar and being horrified at what I was seeing.
But luckily, and a lots of people don't realize this.
The director of our show, he is a fire expert,
and this special wasn't like we didn't have our We
(24:29):
don't do these types of specials normally, but PBS knew
that we our whole our show is directed by this
you know, amazing journalist who's done a lot of work
on wildfires. He's created a fire feature film as well,
and they trusted us to tell this story and he
led a lot of of what you know, we talk
(24:53):
about in the show. Obviously he's the director, but yeah,
he led the charge here. But for me, just you know,
as as the the communicator and the messenger for this story.
It was very interesting. There's a lot of mixed emotions.
I learned a lot, the main thing being that these
types of disasters don't have to happen, and there are things,
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very small things, fairly inexpensive, things that we can do
to harden our homes. That's really the main thing that
we can do to stop large scale urban fires from
happening on a large scale, very easy things that we
can do, and I'm excited for people to see the
film and get this very useful information.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Correct, but if I'm wrong, but they're probably two facets
to this. Yes, there's things that we can do individually,
as you mentioned, like to harden our homes. But we've
also seen all sorts of extreme weather events in recent years.
In fact, the Midwest and South are dealing with it
right now. What are we seeing in a weather or
climate since that we've not seen in previous decades before
(25:55):
In terms.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Of this story and this particular event weather event being
the wildfires, it's temperature and that plays a role and
quite a few of the crazy natural disasters that we've
experienced in recent years in recent months and weeks. I
don't know about the line of storms that came through
(26:17):
this weekend. That always happens, you know, severe weather. There's
a lot more research that needs to be done to
kind of attribute rise in Tornados, for example, to climate change.
But we know that increased temperatures as it relates to
the fire that happened in La play the role. When
you have a warmer atmosphere, it sucks more moisture out
(26:39):
of the vegetation and California before twenty twenty four experienced
two really wet years. You had these really wet years,
You had all this vegetation that resulted from those wet
years being dried out as we entered into the summer
of twenty twenty four. I don't think you guys can't
get any rain for eight months. Yea. So on top
(27:01):
of the there was no rain, you have increased temperatures,
and we know temperatures are increasing on average. That also
contributed to the drying out of these fuels, and that
is what fed the fire. And again once it once
it reached urban communities, it was just it was like
a runaway freight train. There was really nothing that could
(27:21):
have been done. There's a lot of the weather aspect
that played a role here and that play continues to
play a role on large scale.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Let's talk more about that, and let's talk about these
LA fires. Investigations are ongoing, and blame is going to
be parsed that I'm not going to put that on
your shoulder. But in your conversations in wheathered inside the
LA firestorm, what were some of your other observations, your analyzes,
what if any other conclusions have you arrived at.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Yeah, so I mean everyone was talking about the lack
of resources, right. There were a lot of people that
were very angry, and that happens. I think that's human nature.
After a a crazy disaster like this, you know, people
naturally are gonna want to point the finger. How what
(28:08):
happened here? Someone had to have dropped the ball. And
I made a point to ask every single fire official
that I spoke to, every climate scientist, would there have
been enough resources to stop this fire once it reached
urban communities? And the answer is no. There wouldn't have
been enough firefighters, there wouldn't have been enough water, there
(28:30):
wouldn't have been enough force management that could have helped
once it reached that first home in those conditions because
our communities weren't building in a way to be resilient
to these climate related disasters that we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's a question of infrastructure and planning, and maybe we
would not have been able to change the end result.
But is there a conversation to be had about what
we could have done better or should have done better
before it got to those urban communities, because I think
we all can agree once it got to the urban communities,
it was all over.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
At that point. And nothing could be done.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
But from what you've seen, you've experienced, your conversations, was
there something that could have been done in this particular
occasion without calling out any particular names, that might have
alleviated some of the subsequent disaster.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
I don't believe in this situation. I mean, like I said,
the conditions were just so so primed. Imagine doing forest
management for thousands and thousands and thousands of acres in
this eight month period leading up to the disaster. Like
I know, you know, we want to point to you know,
(29:49):
some person, some human. Mother Nature is fierce and we're
seeing that. I think we're seeing just how relentless Mother
Nature is in the face of of our changing climate.
Like I said, there's just so much built up vegetation
from those two years, those those extremely wet years that
(30:09):
that California experienced, and then once we got to that drought.
I mean, there's just not much that could have been
done once we had that red flag warning. I mean,
people were predicting it. All you needed at that point
was was a spark, and you know people, people knew
this was going to happen. So yes, yes, like we
definitely need to be thinking about more resources in that sense. Yes,
(30:33):
we need more firefighters, more water, you know, better better
management of land in that sense. But I think the
biggest conversation that needs to come out of the special
is adaptation and how we are building and where we're
where we're building. Mother Nature is gonna mother nature either way.
But how can we continue to to build in a
(30:55):
way that humanity can thrive on this planet. I think
that needs to be the conversation for Bering.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Later tonight, right after our show at ten pm on
PBS Weathered Inside the LA Firestorm, hosted by journalists, weather expert, storyteller,
and science communicator.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
You got a lot of titles.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I may got a lot of titles, but you've earned
them all science communicator.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
We'll go with science communicator. That's going.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Thank you for coming on tonight.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
Thank you so much, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
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