August 14, 2023 • 54 mins
On Monday’s edition of In the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb, Doug is LIVE from Chargers training camp in Costa Mesa, CA and rants about the 76ers and James Harden’s relationship continuing to crumble. The guys discuss Trey Lance’s poor performance in preseason, and recap their morning at Chargers Camp. Plus, “What Does the Fox Say?,” a new edition of “You’re Annoying,” “Because We Can” and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the bonus with Doug gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
What did the bonus The Doug Gottlieb Show. This is
our podcast only hour. You are going to love it
the iHeartRadio app. We're live out here at LA Chargers
training camp, and I do want to get to what
I think is the story of the day, which is
James Harden going Al Davis going to Al Davis on
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Daryl Morey like Al Davis, Jase, Dude, do you remember
do you know the Al Davis referenced? Do you understand
that one?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Does it have to do with Marcus Allen?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
No, Lane Kiffen. When Lane Kiffin got fired, This is
like a this is historical one. When Lane Kiffen got
fired by the then Oakland Raiders. That was when Al
Davis famously had the overhead projector. You guys remember the
overhead projector, an overhead projector and he told the media,
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Lane Kiffen is a liah and I'm going to show
you and tell you why. And he proceeded to just
dissect Lane Kiffen was It was like the prosecutor going
on the offensive without any sort of defense from Lane Kiffen.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
It was amazing and.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's what happened with James Harden and Daryl Morey. You're like, what,
so look, we'll get to that in a moment. Let's
start with the Chargers. And I think I think there's
a pretty obvious parallel there, which I don't know if
everybody sees. The Cincinnati Bengals were a malign franchise. Matter
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of fact, if you go back the year before they
got Justin Burrow. Up until the last two weeks of
the season, they were statistically the worst defense in the
history of the sport. Okay, fast forward, and now they've
been with Joe Burrow after his rookie year where he suffered,
he had some good starts, then he suffered the ACL injury.
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After that, they've been in a Super Bowl, They've been
deep in the playoffs, and they are a favorite to
go deep in the playoffs, and some have them going
to the Super Bowl yet again this year. But part
of it is that, and it isn't always the case,
but if you draft well and then you get that
dude at quarterback, you nail it with the coaching staff,
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Like eventually it all comes together where you can't be
bad forever. I know it feels like the Jets have
been bad forever, But what have the Jets missed on
up until this year during this longest stretch where they
haven't made the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Quarterback play.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Go back to the Bills when the Bills had the
longest streak of teams. I think it was thirteen years
without reaching the playoffs. What changed quarterback play? Look, did
they acquire a lot of other talent with drafting high
for a long time, Sure, but once you get the quarterback,
it almost immediately elevates you to a level that you're
never going to be terrible again as long as that
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quarterback's healthy.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
That's what's happened to the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Don't get me wrong, I'm not blind to the fact
that there have been some bizarre losses over the past
two years, even with Justin Herbert.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Now, they two.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Years ago with the COVID and they had a litany
of injuries. The big loss was one to the lowly
Houston Texans, but they were missing somewhere in the teams
in the starters for that game, twenty players out due
to COVID, and that game sealed their faith even more
so than the Raider game where they lost in incredible
fashion and it kept them out of the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
This past year, they did make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
On the other hand, there were some uneven losses, some
ones that were simply head scratchers, and then you factor
in the way in which they lost in the playoffs,
where they have twenty seven nothing to start the game
and you end up losing in the playoffs. That one feels,
but line man can see that this is an unbelievable
roster in terms of young, burgeoning talent. You have Joey Bosa,
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who went healthy as a dynamic player. You have Khalil
Mack who maybe at the tail end of the stardom
of his career, but still very solid.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Those are your rush ends.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You bring back your all pro left tackle who's only
played one year in the league in sat last year
with an injury. You have talented wide receivers, a well
respected running back who's a hybrid guy, and you have
a superstar or at least star level quarterback in the
Justin Herbert. That's a playoff team at worst. If Herbert's healthy,
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they make the playoffs, and you can sit here and
go go through all the AFC teams and how good
they are. But let's be honest, there's a lot of
questions about the Raiders, about the Broncos, about even the Ravens,
the Steelers, some of the other teams in which you
expect to make the playoffs have them about the Chargers.
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What game will they charger which means lose a game
that they should rightfully win. Will they sustain the injuries
that seems to happen to them every year, even more
so than other clubs. But if you look at the
teams that are atop the AFC, the Chiefs are the
one team that was.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
They were always good until they got that star quarterback.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I remember the Chiefs would always lose somehow in the
first round of the playoffs at home on the road
that they were up big against Indy and Andrew Luck,
and Andrew Luck, because he was a star quarterback, came
back and won the game. They get a star quarterback,
and look at how they've now become a Super Bowl
favorite or contender on a yearly basis. Is it more
complex than that? Of course it is? Is it as
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simple simple as that?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Now?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Of course it is that as well. It is that
as well.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
But as you sit here, Jay stew you're a Charger
fan as well. And it's interesting, you know, when they
first started training camp here in Orange County, it's kind
of ragtag, right, they're playing in a soccer stadium. They
were ian Orange County, which had Charger fans, but San
Diego didn't. God didn't embrace them anymore. They definitely weren't
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an LA team, whereas now it kind of all fits right.
They feel like and they're moving to LA next year
in terms of their practice facility and training camp. It
it feels like they fit here and it's weird to
be moving yet again.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Oh, I agree, And I remember the first year that
they started up in LA. I want to say and
tell me if I'm wrong, their kind of mantra or
their motto for the season was win LA or beat
the other guy. So it was something like where they
posed themselves against the Rams for the market, and I
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thought that was kind of a mistake at the time
because you're not going to do that as the Chargers
in this market. I think over the last three or
four years, they've just kind of realized who they are
and what they are as a much better team right
now and what they are is. I think they have
a younger fan base because of the approach that they've
kind of taken. So I think that not only are
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they the better team that'sped up for the setup for
a longer run here, I think they have a young
core of fans that's going to be with them for decades.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And it's just been kind of a slow start. Would
you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, I mean I think I think they had They
had a bunch of things go against them to start, right,
They were kind of thrown into the deal for so far.
They weren't very good, right, That's that's a big part portion.
People seem to like teams that are good, right, they
just do. But and and they were literally playing in
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the territory that had a gigantic fan base for a
team who should have been there, right the Raiders and
instead stayed in Oakland, eventually moved to Vegas. So there
was a bunch of things that when I went went
against them. You know, it's something interesting I saw over
the over the weekend preseason game in Las Vegas between
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the Raiders and the Niners, and it was virtually a
Niners home game, right, and people are freaking out, you
know what happened to Raider Nation, Like, look.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
The Niner. Here's let me make it really simple.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
For is there a prison furlough in this somewhere they
can't get the furlough?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well you know, I mean, listen, you only get so
many weekends out of jail. If you're a Raider fan,
you gotta you gotta save up those eight or nine weekends.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
And what's your comment, Not every not Raider fan.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Not every Raider fan is a gangster. But there isn't
a gangster who is not.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
A Raider fan, right, And the reason that the Raiders
play mostly on weekends and not Monday or Thursday night
is because Raider fans to get that weekend furlough.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
That's that's the that's the Raider fans.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I don't know if it's politically correct. I'll laugh at that,
but I still find it funny. What to joke, whatever
to joke.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And there's there's some truth to many of much much sarcasm.
There's at least a little bit of truth to it.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But you were saying that that the Niners this weekend
was kind of a home.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Game with Yeah, you just got it. You just have to.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Uh, you just have to understand that it's not as
seamless as as moving to these markets. It's not like
moving to a market in the Midwest or the South
where they just embrace you and they haven't had a team, right,
And fans are going to especially fans in in these
vibrant cities, they're gonna like they like teams that win,
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they like teams that win. I think the Raiders fit Vegas.
They're gonna be great there. Uh, the Chargers. I believe
it's a mistake to move to l A. I'm just
I'll be.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Beyond still to this day.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
No, no, no, not to play in LA.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
The facilities.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Like I think that you build a fan base in
Orange County, you're automatically going to have LA fans are
going to be Raider, Cowboy, Niner, Ram Charger fans if
you're good, right. But this this, you've actually built a base.
And I don't agree with the idea of moving away
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from that base. Not that anybody actually cares where you practice,
but this is the perfect example. If somebody from out
of the area, or even somebody in the here people
where the Rams practice, I don't know in LA, not
even close to LA. Right there and they're out in
Thousand Oaks, right. You know, it is the other end
of the earth from where we are, which is the
other end of the earth from where they are, and
nobody knows that, nobody cares, but there is a certain Hey,
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this team feels a little bit more like an Orange
County team. It gives them at least a bit of
a connection to San Diego. You still have some fans
that would love that would that would come up, and
I think that's a mistake.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
But I do think they're building something that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I was talking to Dan Byer.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
You know, the cool thing about these training camps is
that Dan Bayern and I get to carpool and spend
some quality time together from our place way above Santa Clarita.
I was telling Dan about this, and Dan tell me
if I'm wrong. If there is not a bigger urgency
for the Chargers team than this year, I don't know
what is. And a lot of it has to do
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with the fact that they're still operating under Herbert's rookie deal,
that they didn't overspend for Ecklery. I think they've maximized
the contracts for this particular talented group and the Rams.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Are in a transition here. This kind of is the
year to get it done. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Dan? I think it would help.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
But you know, number ten is the biggest reason why
I think that it is even a longer play for them.
They've got something that in this city the Rams don't,
and in this league not a lot of teams have,
and that puts them in a spot that they can
really take advantage. So while I agree with the Rams
kind of being down at this point, when you have
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Justin Herbert as your quarterback, it's really gonna help. I
have friends back on my family back home. In fact,
the seventeen year old cousin loves the Packers second favorite team,
Chargers yep, because they love her yep.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I Actually it's one of it's It's really interesting that
obviously last year we had the.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Is it which oho? Is that? I? Is it Emanuel Manuacho?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Right?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
The Emmanuelacho see that sam Ocho was the brother and
you said shouldn't be on TV, and then Emmanuel is
the one that got into it with you.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Well, well, sam Ocho shouldn't have been on TV because
he listed his top five quarterbacks and he didn't have
Pat Mahomes on the list that actually happened.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
You sure it wasn't a list other than Pat Mahomes
the top He did the top five quarterbacks, and he
didn't list Pat Mahomes like.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
That really happened.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That actually happened, and Emanuelaco then came after me, and
then you know, later on his take was that Tua
was basically the real deal and Justin Herbert was a
social media quarterback, which was funny on a litany of levels.
I know it's not what he meant, but the Chargers
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had a lot of fun with the fact that Justin
Herbert doesn't actually have social media.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I think that's amazing, But I know what he meant.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
He basically meant it's all about highlights, not about substance.
The problem is that it just shows you haven't watched
a ton of Charger games, and then, having attended the
Chargers Dolphins game in person, if you thought that Tua
was in the solar system of Justin Herbert as quarterback,
I can't really help you. It's just that it's like
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that conversation you have. It's like these people now who
are going on Twitter and trying to convince people that
the tragic fire in Lahina was somehow a somehow like.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
A government's called d e W. Do you know DW
is like a false flag or no, d W is
they can I know the mountain d e W.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
No, you do, like to very it's where they can
I forget what DW stands for.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
A Hold on me, let me look it up. We
can make sure you added this part out every go ahead.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
The crazy part about that whole situation was when Greg
Gottlieb came in and said, you keep my brother's name
out of your mouth when he's talking about your project.
That was Yeah, it was Acho v. Gottlieb.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
The brothers Gottlieb banded together.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
It's funny.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
And I do have to mention that Emmanuel did go
on the air the day after he went to that
to Herbert game and said, I will not criticize Herbert
for the rest of the regular season.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
That was kind of his weird It was so weird take.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, it was so weird.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Right, And look, I did think they got they they
got they got conservative in the playoffs, but directed an
energy weapon. Yeah, right, that's that's it. So again, that's
the bizarre, like it's one of the more bizarre things. Ever,
It's like when when your reaction to a tragic fire
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is that had to be started by had to be
started by rich people trying to steal these people's land,
and not oh my god, this is terrible, right when
if your reaction to watching that game was, hey, I'm
not going to criticize the rest of the regular season.
How about I was wrong, It's okay to go I
was wrong. That guy is way way better than I thought.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
There should be a sports museum where there's just you know,
podiums and pedestals of people that with their sports takes
that they are they are going to die on that
hill or that is there, like, oh, this is the
there's Emmanuel watch.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You have our good friend Rob Parker right where Tom
Brady's the luckiest quarterback of all time.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Won't come down off that one.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
There would be crowds like the Mona Lisa, you know
around it to see that, to see that one.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
That's abute clerk, that's a beauty.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
It is true.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
People do latch on and no matter what you can do, well, yeah,
it's funny because it's even on the heels of this weekend.
Like I was never a huge twenty Parker fan and
then at the end of his like run and I
don't know if it was seven when he won the
MVP in the finals, I was like, yeah, I gotta
appreciate it, you know, like for what it is.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Like at some point you're just kind of all right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I would say this about Tony Parker.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I would before he was in the Hall of Fame,
I would say most underrated point guard ever. But now,
once you're in the Hall of Fame, you can't say that, right, Yeah,
it's just it's not it.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Maybe at the time when he played, he was.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
When he played, he was underrated, but now he is,
You're a Hall of Famer. There is no higher ranking
you can have, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Kind of like when Andre.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
I remember when Andre Dawkins was up for the Hall
of Fame and the argument for him being in the
Hall of Fame is that he has more home runs
than anyone not in the Hall of Fame. That that
that's not an argument that there's always going to be
somebody who has the most home runs without being the
Hall of Fame. So don't don't sell me that argument.
If that's your argument, that means he's not a Hall
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of Famer. So yeah, what you could be over over
or underrated until the day you walk into the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Then you can't do be that way anyone.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, what are the what are the other Aldheimers I'm
trying to think of? I mean, Skip Bayless with the
lebron doesn't have the clutch gene that was that was
that's the big one.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Doesn't have the clutch gen got it.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I mean I would probably be in the hall for
the Steph Curry take. Part of it is the Stephen
Curry take is taken a little bit out of it's
it's not contextualized. Well and oh yeah, by the way,
I mean it's pretty obvious, like I'm not sitting here
going yeah, Johnny Flynn has more upside. Yeah, recurrbio now right, Yeah,
that just qualifies. It's the people that they won't just
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go like, hey, what's wrong enough?
Speaker 6 (18:09):
I don't I don't.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
I don't have the resume that you do, Doug. But
I never believed in Ben Simmons and it turned out
to be true. So there's also like those sort of
things where you're just there's there's the the real belief
of like I just don't see it I just Merril Hodge,
by the way, is making a huge push on social
media with the Johnny Mandel. Yeah, people just grabbing old
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clips of his analysis of tram By the way, it
was really really good, Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It was good not because he did the hot take
He's gonna suck whatever. It was good because he went
through what it takes to be a quality quarterback and
what he doesn't see us at all there and like
he knailed that they're going to be fired and blah
blah blah blah blah. And by the way, Skip Bayless,
huge believer there, huge believer in Baker Mayfield. You know,
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by the way, my Baker Mayfield take was at the time,
and I think I was working, I was working here.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
We could pull it at some point in time.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Whereas I thought he was a late round talent, okay,
with a first round brain and ego, and you know,
I had I had a GM tell me it was like,
if you surround him with great players, he can be good.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
If you don't, he can't be good.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And you know what, that's really what happened in Cleveland
was when he was when everything was right early on,
surrounded by unbelievable talent because and we talked about this
Dan before you sat down, which is like, look, it's
not really a secret here. What's happened with the Chargers,
What's happened with the Bills, What's happened with the Bengals.
These teams are bad for a long time. Eventually you
draft your crew talent. But once you get that quarterback, now,
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all of a sudden, you can be a consistent playoff team.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Right. I mean, that's what's happened with all these teams.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's where where the Browns were just their quarterback wasn't
good enough, and it eventually eventually water finds its water
finds its level. All right, let's let's get the James
Harden deal. So James Harden calls Daryl Morey a liah
because what you would guess was the deal he took
last year for less, there was a promise for more
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this year, and when that didn't happen, now he calls
him a liar. Now, it should be pointed out that
we don't know if the owner of the Sixers said, hey.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Winn and give him a long term contract.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And I also think there's a little bit of the
NFL running backs thing to it, which is James Harden
is not the same guy he was when he was
an MVP.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
He's not close to the same guy.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
In addition to the other things with James Harden never
really wanted to play defense, right, has at times, hasn't
come in great shape, hasn't one of the playoffs. All
of those things are you know, but like look by
now you know what he is, but he's older and
there's just limitations there. So I think a good portion
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of it is he's lashing out, not just a Daryl Moray,
but he's probably lashing out the fact that he wanted
to be traded and they couldn't find anybody that wanted
to give him what he wanted and guys don't like
hearing that from people.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Let me add some context here.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
So over the weekend it was reported, Dan, you were
on the air at some point here it was reported
that Darryl Moray said that James Harden's going to play
for US this year something along those lines. James Harden
was in China, which is ironic. He was in China
doing an event. I'm sure he got check billion dollars
and said Darryl Moray is a liar and I will
never be a part of an organization that he's a
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part of.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Let me say that again.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Darryl Moray is a liar and I will never be
a part of an organization that he is a part of.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Two Chinese reporters and fans.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
I'll tell you it was interesting because on my Sunday
show that I do with Mike Harmon before this hardened
clip actually came out. Doug, It's something that you pointed
to with the Eric the Enemy situation of if Ryan
Poles didn't bring him in as the head coach in Chicago,
maybe that tells you something. If Jeral Moriy is not
willing to give James Harden the long the amount of
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money that James Harden wants.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Tells you no, yes, yeah, of course I will.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
You and I come a plete lockstep totally agree, you know,
because there you think there's a relationship top Now there's
no relationship there. There is zero chance is zero chance
of having a relationship with somebody who you call a liar,
uh to every media outlet possible.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Right, So now what do you do if you're the Sixers?
He just let him rot.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
I think that I think Maury will probably try to
follow what he did to acquire Harden because it was
with the Ben Simmons thing. I'm sure he'll wait it
out and when the season comes around, that's when push
gets to shove.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Push comes to shove. That's what I think he'll do.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
I think that he actually there was one team that
actually would take Ben Simmons and wanted to give a
way of superstar, and he found it. I think that's
what his goal will probably be this time around.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I was a buyer in to Ben Simmons, but but
so many of the it's this Ben Simmons is one
of those. There were so many red flags there that
you just pushed through.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Right yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And I mean the red flags were when I called
one of his games an LSU game and David Patrick,
who was like his godfather, and David of course used
to play and then coached in Australia.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
He's now the head coach at at Sacramento State.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You know, he was the literally the only guy who
was a fuse in his praise of Ben Simmons, like
when you're there, like nobody else is.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Like, man, he's the best.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That guy's unbelievable, right, Like when Kate Cunningham was at
Oklhoma State and you around anybody who can say to like, dude,
Kay Cunningham is the best. I love him, love playing
with him, love him as a person.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Love.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
None of that with Ben Simmons, none of that. And
then like there was the long held rumor that the Boomers,
that's the Australian national team didn't want him.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
I just did. He wasn't What wasn't one of them?
You know that he was.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
He left to go to high school in the States
and they felt like he felt like he was too
good for them or his style of play or whatever.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
And he's never played for them. I think he's trying
to play.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I think he's playing for them this summer, right, but
he desperately needs it because the way they play and
the skill work that they do would be incredible. Maybe
it's not actually because I've seen the highlights day. But
the point is there was a lot of red flags
of Ben Simmons that I kind of blew through. I
was like, Nah, this guy's too good.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. When
you're good enough, get it all matters.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Well, you know, And he also fell victim of that
that hype train as well. I mean there's I mean
you look back just over the years. I mean he
was an All Star, wasn't he believe you? Actually, I
know he was. So he was an All Star at
one point, and then you had him making one three
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point shot and then everybody going nuts being like, hey,
if this guy can actually be a three point shooter,
lookout three time All Star because that double checked it.
So I don't know, just didn't two time All defensive.
I'm even impressed by those accolades.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, so is this story that Jason just showed me
that The Australian head coach Brian Gorzhin said, in my
dealings with Ben, it's always been I'm not recruiting you.
It's important for the for the country. We're not going
to say please, Ben, please, we don't have anything if
you don't play.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
He hasn't made an appearance for the Australian national team
since for Australia since twenty thirteen, so I truly hope
for Ben that he ends up deciding it's something he'd
want to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's what Luke Longley said. I've done a lot of things,
but playing for the Boomers is right up there with
the top of them. I wouldn't trade them for one
of my rings. Of course, Luke played with the Chicago
Bulls and Michael Jordan won championships. I've said I would
at one stage stupidly, but geez, I'd love to have
a medal sitting alongside of them. Anyway, when was this starting.
This was August twelfth, So this is just this Friday,
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just this Saturday. Yeah, I mean, that's it's really really
interesting that that here we are, here we are, and
we're looking at a similar situation for the Philadelphia seventy
(26:39):
six ers. You know, it's like a couple of years
a couple of years later.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
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Speaker 4 (27:31):
Let's get to what the Fox said and now.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Every day here in the Bonus Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
Sports Radio got Dan Byer along with me for the
entire day, same with the Jason Stewart. We played for
you a portion of a previous show on Fox Sports
Radio or Fox Sports One. This is Brady Quinn and
talking about the forty nine Ers quarterback situation.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
I mean, look, I've said this and we'll continue to
say this. He just needs more time, more development, you know.
And you know when Sam Darnold goes in there, things
seem to run rather smooth, and in part because he's
played a lot, right, he's been now with two different organizations,
he's he's been in multiple systems. He can adapt and
he's doing his best just to kind of survive and
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provide an opportunity to to maybe be the guy this
year at when brock Purty's not there or if he
gets hurt. And so I think we know what he
is bringing to the table. I've said I said this
last week, Leavar and you were gone. I think if
Darnald gets a shot an opportunity, I think go play
well in that system.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
It's hard for quarterbacks not to typically play well in
that system.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
For Tray, it's stuff though, because he just hasn't played
a ton of football, and he was never drafted for
what he had done and what he showcased. He was
always drafted based on his potential, and unfortunately, because of
the injury last last season and the way things have
kind of shaken out for him so far in his career,
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he just hasn't had the opportunity to really get the
type of, you know, real playing experience that I think
he needs to be where San Francisco wants him to
be as an organization to be with a fan want
him to be.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
That thing is interesting. Look, I think they're good personally.
I think Sam Donald's gonna win that job. I think
they started Trey Lance and he played, uh he played
pretty well. I don't think that how you play in
a preseason game is going to decide who plays and
who doesn't, who gets the starting job. I think that's
going to be decided in the in the practices where
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you uh where you where.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
You practice against somebody.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
We talked about uh takes that you know are going
to go in the take Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
A little bit earlier.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
M hmm.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I thought Sam Donald would be would would be a
very very good.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Very good NFL quarterback. I was to this point wrong.
Now I'm still a stockholder in Sam Donald LLC. I
still got that my backpack and I and I actually
think he's in a great spot.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
If he could win the job.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I just he has a lot more talent than brock Purty,
a lot more arm talented. Brock perty is a lot
physically more more talented.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I mean, I'd guess brock Purty gets the job back
when he's fully healthy and f cleared, if they you know,
day one of the season. But I think that Donald,
like all he's ever needed was the coaching and the
system that they can provide for him in San Francisco.
I'm still I'm still gonna hold onto that Penny Stock
now Oka that everybody else has sold off, I'm willing
to admit obviously is not nearly what Lamar Jackson has
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become as a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
And that in that part I was I was wrong.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
How much do you think the see ghost thing? You
think people forgot about that?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
No, I think that's a real thing. I mean, I
think you know, admitting it, yea, yeah, that that because
I think there's been there's been more quarterbacks admitted.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
But look, he was in it.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
He was a terrible team, the poorly coached team. But
and that can that can cause a guy to sink, yeah,
or to swim.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I think that there's there's a lot.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
There's a lot with the forty nine ers, and there's
and it's not just Sam Donald. And that's the only
thing that I wonder And I don't blame you for
holding stock on Sam Donald. And when you look at
how played out in Carolina when he was brought in
there doesn't seem like it was a great situation either.
But I I feel that there's been so much praise
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for Sam Donald and it's come at the expense of
Trey Lance and.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
The forty nine ers.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
The forty nine ers talk, They talked to reporters, they
talked to insiders, and information gets out and there's just
this narrative and I just for as great as the
Sam Donald things, you know, the message is, I'm just
taking it with a grain of salt.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
For however, I don't blame you for holding holding onto it.
But yeah, I'm still I'm still a little uh.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Skeptical, apprehensive, Yes, aohens the skeptical. Here's Colin Kalend talking
about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
The Broncos did something I don't think I've seen for
quite some time. They kept their offense on the field
for the first four drives of the game. And that's
with a veteran quarterback, and so it wasn't very pretty
until the final play of the final drives.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
So what does it tell.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
You in the offseason for Sean Payton and the Broncos
when he is publicly ripped harsh the previous coach, and
he kept starters in for four series on their first
preseason game, it tells you this is not as plug
and play as he hoped.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
They got a lot of work to.
Speaker 10 (32:19):
Do, It's not necessarily coming together on a lot of
those drives. They were dealing with second and third team
Arizona Cardinal defenders. That's a bad team and an average defense,
and they couldn't move the ball. So I do feel
like Sean Payton, this is a heavy lift. He's got
three things to rebuild. Russell Wilson's game and confidence. That
goes without saying. He was good when he was had
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time to throw, but he's got to rebuild that. The
second thing is he has to rebuild the culture, which
he's talked about that publicly. It was a mess in
the building. And number three, he's got to build the
offensive line and it was shockingly bad.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, I mean, they got to rebuild the offense there.
And but it all starts and ends with Russell Wills,
you know, and this becomes the year which and if
you watch that game, there were a lot of people
talking about how bad the line was, but several of
the throws that weren't on target, there wasn't pressure there.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
So to say anybody knows, I do not know. I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And obviously we haven't been to their practice, we haven't
talked to them as insiders, and we haven't watched with
our own eyes. But it's a crazy thing that you
go from two years ago it was let Russ cook
in Seattle, then he gets hurt, comes back not particularly
good to what a throw Holy cow, Oh my goodness,
what a throw.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
To to this this.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Space where you're like, I don't know if he's any
good or if he's gonna be any good. It's the
craziest thing because usually there's a you know, it's like
you peak in your career, and then together there's kind
of a slow decline. Right, and even Tom Brady, I know,
you want the super Bowl that year, but they weren't
he wanted, they weren't great. That he wasn't great. That
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even the game against the Packers, for example, right, very
good in the first half, three to interception the second half,
Like that's not Tom Brady normally there was some but
he was in his forties. Russell Wilson, there was some
decline there in Seattle byer. You saw some of the companies.
If I would have told you that, here we are
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and we're questioning whether or not Russell Wilson's any good.
A year and a half after he came back from
the thumb injury and wasn't very good.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
What would you have said a year and a half ago, Oh,
I wouldn't have believed.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
Yeah, I know that there was a decline, but yel
as you said finger injury, and you're like, how is
that going to play in?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Maybe there was a little here.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
The reason that the Seahawks let him go though, is
they didn't want to pay him fifty million dollars, right,
and so you still thought that if maybe the price
take wasn't so high, that they would have kept him.
So I think they probably wouldn't, you know, even though
they may have seen to decline.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I don't think that they would believe that we'd be
at this point.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Of the of the conversation, it's completely go ahead.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
But for the same thing that we say with Sam
Darnold in a small window of eighteen months, it may
not be as different for Russell Wilson. You go in,
new head coach, is a first time head coach, Maybe
things don't match up. Not shocking that in the first
preseason action that maybe things just aren't as tight as
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they would be for Russell Wilson to the Broncos and
Sean Payton, I'm willing to give that one a little
bit more time.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Okay, let's get to this.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
This is Craig Carton and Plaxico Burris talking about Jordan
Love and his performance in his first preseason game with
the Packers.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Jordan Love, Green Bay Packer starting quarterback.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Will be benched by Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
This year for real or for case who gay?
Speaker 4 (36:01):
That is who Gay.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Got?
Speaker 7 (36:06):
Because who else water back the ball?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Who has to go?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
You're gonna live and down with this guy.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
That's what we can move on from that. It's a
mast situation. Bre agreed up for this.
Speaker 9 (36:20):
By the way, the Packer's backup the so you know,
is a rookie named Sean Clifford.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah from where? From where?
Speaker 8 (36:28):
Fow by the way, exactly if you're if you're a
Packer fan, you.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Have a choice.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
If Jordan Love doesn't play roll and gets hurt, it's
either Sean Clifford no starts.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Or Alex mcgeu.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Mcgu that's a mass if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 9 (36:47):
Alex macgoot sounds like the dude who was like the
US Felt Player of the Week a couple of times.
Speaker 8 (36:52):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Uh I thought Jordan Love is good over the weekend,
and I don't know what it means long term. But
I think that's a really good roster. I think it's
a good football team. I don't think they'll compete for
a super Bowl, but it wouldn't wouldn't surprise me if
they compete for the playoffs and a little bit better
than people think, you know, and remember, like we can
also there can be some false hope, right, Like they
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play Chicago first week of the season, and there's a
world there where he looks really really good. First week
of the season, We're like, oh my god, Packers are great,
and then you know, it levels off as people have
a book on him. People don't really have a book
on Jordan. Love played in like two games. So surrounded
by a good roster with a good franchise, seems like
he's gonna have a chance.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
And I don't think.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
And one of the things is, yes, his contract looks
like backup contract money going forward to next year.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
But it's not like they have a guy who's sitting.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
There waiting in the wings. They're gonna give him this
whole year to prove himself. And if he fails, he fails, right,
it'd be like like Rocky, Right, if he dies, he dies,
that's what the fox said. What is annoying, Jason Stewart, Now.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
It's your annoying, Doug. I just saw Jeffrey Lauria on TMZ.
He said that Derek Jeter ruined things by removing the
sculpture out of left field. For those that don't remember,
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the Marlins open their new park with this horrific art
sculpture in left field and it was the punchline of
many a jokes and memes and it was just dreadful.
It probably even pre existed Twitter, so memes wasn't even
the thing. But anyways, Derek Jeter was an awful executive
for the Marlins. Yes, Derek Jeter did absolutely nothing for
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that team, but the one thing that he did do
was he got rid of the structure from left field.
So I'm going to do the opposite of what the
owner of the Marlins is doing. I'm gonna say the
only thing that Derek Jeter did right was removed the sculpture.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
From leftfield, and the rest of it was just a
complete ruination.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
So who's annoying in this part?
Speaker 5 (39:07):
It's annoying that Jeffrey Warriors takeaway was that Derek Jeter
ruined things by removing the sculpture.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Okay, Parnott.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
What else the lack of attention that Hubet Brown gets.
So you and I have discussed on this very segment.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Yeah, for the last few on a three on two break.
What you need to look for?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
He always says, if I'm pat Riley or I'd better
do something a little bit more at modern, let's see her.
If I'm Mike Brown, and then he gets into stuff.
But Hubie Brown just got a new contract. He's eighty
nine years old. He just got a new contract from
ESPN at a time when they're shutting contracts, getting rid
of the trim in the Fat, getting rid of Van
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Gundy because he said too many critical, critical things about
the referees. Hubie Brown's getting a new contract at eighty nine.
And I don't think he's ever received the recognition that
he should have for what he does.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
He's a legend.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
I'm going to disagree with you the recognition I think
he has and deservedly so.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
I think he's very, very good.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I don't know if you guys know that Huey Brown
was generally seen as one of the great clinicians of
all time and one of the reasons that a European
basketball has become so successful and so well coached is
he was forever a clinician going over to Europe back
you know, back in the day.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
I think I would disagree with you in that.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I yes, it looks like, hey, we're at this place
where guys aren't, where guys aren't getting a contract when
they're older, especially older white dudes. Legendary dudes though, aren't
replaceable like dick By Talascott. He's uh, I mean he
can't even speak. He said he had throat surgery. He has,
(40:53):
he's fighting cancer. We hope he gets better. But like Hill,
always work there, Like there are certain guys, Lee Corso
will always worked until Lee Corso decides he doesn't want
to do game day, He's gonna do it. So I'm
I'm gonna disagree with you there in terms of this
actually is par for the course Courso vital and and
Hubie now as he received the acclaim, I think he has.
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Do people know that when Huby coached though he was
fat and then he lost a bunch of weight.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Wait are you thinking about Frank Layton?
Speaker 4 (41:22):
No choking, he was fat.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Frank Layton did too right Hube was.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Fat and uh.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
After he got fired by the next I believe that's
when he started started losing it, started to lose weight
and then became a broadcaster.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
And he's just like an iconic broadcaster.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
I'm gonna put you on the spot. Best perm on
the sidewines, Oh Brown or Jerry.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Pim Jerry Pim Hube Brown? What about Dick versays Edie
Eddie Setton had a perm u. My coach, Eddie Setton
had a perm He used to eat said back when
I had a permanent because he's a perm is short
for permanent.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
I think Dick Versace is the greatest perm ever. I'm
just gonna tell you that right now.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I'm gonna tweet this out.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah, check that Dick Versaci. What else is annoying you?
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Daniel Jones, the most recent quarterback to turn down the
Netflix series. What annoys me is that I think it
only got two likes. It annoys me that my tweet
didn't get more steam. I said a couple of weeks
ago that they should rename the next season of Netflix
Quarterback with a subtitle of Suckers because they were the
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only suckers who signed up for it.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
It should be quarterback subtitle suckers.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Okay, but so what is the downside to do in
the quarterback? Then I'll never understand this. What is the downside?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Most people don't don't don't have a thirst for attention, but.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
It's not about like attention.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Like Kirk Cousins comes off like a freaking saint in
that deal, all right, Mariota comes off super weird. You
don't really know why he left the Falcon, like the
there's so much they'd left out, so much of what
could be potentially negative.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
And then Pat Mahomes on the Super Bowl like obviously
didn't affect him. I don't.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
I don't understand it. I get guys, you know, Herbert's
a guy, he's turned it down. He just I don't
like attention. I understand what you're saying, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
But my main beef is that nobody picked up on
my idea. That's the annoying part.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
I think about suckers, cut back suckers because their only
suckers are signing up for this.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
You know, if you have a brain, you're not signing
up for it. So those are my three things.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Jeffrey Laurier for the Jeter comment and the sculpture, the
lack of attention that Hubet Brown gets, which you diffused.
And then my quarterback Suckers hasn't picked up steam at all.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Okay, your comedy work is in the Rob Parker territory
right now. So what else he got?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
No, that's it. Those are the three things. Just choose,
Jeffrey Laurier.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
Now, quarterback Suckers, you know, and huge Brown doesn't get
enough recognition for how good he is.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
That's Those are the most annoying things in the weekend.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Yes, yes, if you guys have better, I'm all for Dan.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
Anything annoy you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:11):
At the club, there's three sometimes four driving range match.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Okay, this isn't the gun club or your gym club.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
It's the golf club.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Golf club.
Speaker 7 (44:21):
Yeah, that can be in the that can be in
the shade. Like there's three for sure, but then there's four.
You could find me at the club sweating profusely because
I'm in the club prefuously, because I think it's like
the bathroom stall sort of thing.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
You walk in.
Speaker 7 (44:41):
There's five urinals stand up urinals for the guy. You
go to either the end or you go to the middle.
You don't go to two and four and you know,
go to.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
One because one's a little guy, you know, right, sure, yes.
Speaker 10 (44:53):
So.
Speaker 7 (44:55):
When there's three spots that are in the shade, don't
take number two. Take one or three so you have room.
You don't feel like, you know, if it's a full
full range, different story. But when it's wide open because
it's ninety five degrees like that, don't take the middle.
And we're on Matts on Saturday, so don't take the
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middle spot because it's the one that's in them shade
the most.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
Take one or three, which are also in the shade.
That was annoying to me.
Speaker 5 (45:23):
They've done research on this, you know, they've done research
where men's blood pressure actually increases and his heart rate
increases when a man stands next to him in the
urinal stall. That's an actual scientific fact that we as
men get anxious, nervous, our heart rate goes up when
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a man sends right next to us to go to
the bathroom.
Speaker 7 (45:46):
I think there's the decision of you don't want to
saddle up right to it, but you don't want to
be so las a fair that everything's open for business,
you know.
Speaker 6 (45:57):
I think that's finding the happy medium of it.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
I think that's fair, totally fairly, yeah, no question. I'll
give you. Something's annoying. Why do so many every school
starts at the different time? Right?
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Why do I have a feeling that this annoying thing
just happened this morning?
Speaker 2 (46:16):
No, no, no, no, no no, I want to starting Wednesday.
One she takes online school, she already started. The other
one starts on like in two weeks or whatever. But
I just there's no universal anything.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
And I started in time in the morning, the actual time.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
No on the actual date. Okay, the actual date changes,
and I don't.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
And we keep pushing like in California to be more
like the Midwest, right where you start earlier in August
and then you're out like in May.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
And I don't.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
That was that was done long time ago for the crops, right,
Like I always like like after labor days when that's
when we used to start.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
I like that one way better, way better? What else
is annoying?
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Man? Those are five pretty good ones.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Dan Byers.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Just just people's lack of understanding for their decisions that
they make and how they affect other people.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
Like and this is the actual easiest parallel is.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Like you're at a at a gym, you're shooting by yourself,
or even better yet, like you're working with your kid.
You're feeding your kid, he's shooting shooting hoops, and then
somebody comes into the gym. There's other hoops that are open.
They come shooting at your hoop. You're like, what are
you doing? Go shoot down the other fucking end, dude,
there's a whole hoop down there. There's nothing magical happening
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at this basket. It's the same thing with the driving range, right,
Like you're out there, you're by yourself, like have a
little understanding of who's going to come in and where
they're gonna be. Just get to the first one, hit
your ball, and that way there's a whole other row
of things. Like I completely agree with you. That's fucking annoying.
That's just annoying. So whoever did that to you, you're annoying.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. Why
are we doing this?
Speaker 8 (48:08):
Why do I.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Because we can?
Speaker 5 (48:14):
Okay, So this this was over the weekend, but it's
been happening at Philly games all season.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
They have gone with this chant. He could depending on
the matchup. I don't know what they're saying, Tom, but
if you want to repeat it, I have to repeat it.
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That's good. That's good.
Speaker 5 (48:44):
So that was John Kruk asking the play by play
guy to repeat what they're saying. They're saying fuck you
up really loud, and they've been doing this for most
of the season. Now, Doug, here's the problem with not
having automated umpires, robotic umpires calling balls and strong. Here's
a problem with that is that the fan base. You're
losing your fan base. If the fans could see that
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it was a strike and your umpire is not calling
it a strike, your that's a deterioration in the respect
of the umpire. So if you don't want all of
your stadiums around the big leagues saying fuck you ump
audibly into your into your telecast, then how about you
go to an automated strike song.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
I I I don't think I don't like the automated umpire.
I understand that some of the strikes. Everybody has a
different strike zone and some of that stuff is bad,
Like I get it right, but we we if we're
going to take the human factor out of sports. I mean,
I just I don't enjoy it. It's and and I
get like you're sitting there going like, yeah, but this
call was bad and this guy is bad and and
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this is this is awful and whatever. But so what
you're what you're saying is you're saying, Jays two is
even the negative fuck you ump is a good thing
in reality because it gives somebody to direct their energy.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yet sure, yeah, but if enough, like what's the most.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Entertaining spot outside of the actual game, Some of the
most entertaining stuff in baseball are the arguments with the
ump Right.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
The air boom thing last week was amazing, tremendous, But
it's another symptom of what I just said. We see
the umpire making mistakes on an inning by inning basis
that deteriorates your respect for them. It's almost unfair to
them that they haven't gone to the automated strike song.
Speaker 7 (50:35):
If there were robots, I would want an actual robot
behind the catcher.
Speaker 6 (50:41):
I think that that would that is I must have
and then you can.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
Yeah, fuck you robot, fuck you robot. Three year out.
Speaker 5 (50:59):
That wasn't what wasn't name with the robot and uh
and Buck Rogers, bitty bitty what was it?
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Was he twinky Twinkie? Does he look like Twinkie Dan?
Or does he look like the robot in Lost in Space?
Speaker 7 (51:13):
I do have an updated robot, but still with like
a metal head. Doesn't look like an actual human, but
just is an actual robot with like red eyes and arms.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
I just like this need for like perfect. We're trying
to perfect something that's not perfect. Sports is not perfect.
You can't make it perfect. Stop trying to make it perfect.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
We do that with this.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
It's what's fucked up football?
Speaker 3 (51:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (51:36):
You have a game lening touchdown like hold on, let's
go back to the booth to make sure that it's okay. Yes,
they're only on the field stands like, yes, it isn't
back to touchdown like even the good plays we have
to review, like geez, just he called it touchdowns?
Speaker 4 (51:51):
Touchdown close enough, let's go.
Speaker 7 (51:52):
How come NFL referees don't talk back to coaches, but
like Major League Baseball and NBA, ones have no giving
them a little return.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
I think because the NFL guys they have this whatever
is that the side judge who's the guy that's in
front of him, and they just wear those guys out
the whole time. Those poor guys, those poor guys, they
catch so much shit.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
You gonna tell your.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Partner he's fucking terrible, right, Like, it's all like just
wearing him out. And then eventually they go it's enough.
But uh, that's a good point. The Major League Baseball
thing when they go crazy is it's such bizarre theater,
like in no other world does that exist except for baseball, yes,
where you literally could go nuts. And then sometimes those
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guys do start kicking, kicking the dirt on they want
some of it. Yeah, I mean, like look at the
Aaron Aaron Boone thing last week.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
That was amazing.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
All right, let's get to our pick of the day. Okay, sir,
the bet.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Is to you.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Maybe it's time for the pick of the day.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
You guys know this is game week in uh or
where week away? Excuse me from game week in college football?
Speaker 4 (52:58):
Do you guys know that?
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Well, we're getting closer and closer. But you can of
course go and bet on opening game odds. That's where
this pick will come from. Notre Dame takes on the
Naval Academy in Ireland. That's coming up on the twenty
sixth of August. You're like, damn, it's kind of close, right,
You're less than two weeks away from college football. On television,
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Notre Dame opened up as a twenty and a half
point favorite. You can still get that someplace as it's
nineteen and a half now. The Naval Academy, they have
a newke head coach, but Notre Dame change offensive coordinators,
and then they bring in the quarterback from Wake Forest.
It's pretty good, and the thought is like, immediately they're
going to take off. My issue with it is that,
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with the exception of quarterback, Notre Dame hasn't gone out
and killed it in the transfer portal. They're coached by
their head coach is still a defensive coach, and their
offensive coordinator he's the tight end. He was the tight
ends coach. It's not like they came in and you
have a proven track record. It leads me to believe
that early on it's gonna be a little hit or miss.
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A little hit or miss, I'm gonna take the Naval Academy,
especially if I get twenty points the Naval Academy, and
I would also take the under Naval Academy in the
under take it early on now, before the line moves.
That's a lot of points and nearly three touchdowns on
foreign soil. They'll play in actual grass. Give me the
Naval Academy. That's it for the In the Modus podcast.
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Fox Sports Radio.
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the bonus with Doug gottlie.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
What did the bonus The Doug Gottlieb Show. This is
our podcast only hour. You are going to love it
the iHeartRadio app. We're live out here at LA Chargers
training camp, and I do want to get to what
I think is the story of the day, which is
James Harden going Al Davis going to Al Davis on
(00:35):
Daryl Morey like Al Davis, Jase, Dude, do you remember
do you know the Al Davis referenced? Do you understand
that one?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Does it have to do with Marcus Allen?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
No, Lane Kiffen. When Lane Kiffin got fired, This is
like a this is historical one. When Lane Kiffen got
fired by the then Oakland Raiders. That was when Al
Davis famously had the overhead projector. You guys remember the
overhead projector, an overhead projector and he told the media,
(01:06):
Lane Kiffen is a liah and I'm going to show
you and tell you why. And he proceeded to just
dissect Lane Kiffen was It was like the prosecutor going
on the offensive without any sort of defense from Lane Kiffen.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
It was amazing and.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's what happened with James Harden and Daryl Morey. You're like, what,
so look, we'll get to that in a moment. Let's
start with the Chargers. And I think I think there's
a pretty obvious parallel there, which I don't know if
everybody sees. The Cincinnati Bengals were a malign franchise. Matter
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of fact, if you go back the year before they
got Justin Burrow. Up until the last two weeks of
the season, they were statistically the worst defense in the
history of the sport. Okay, fast forward, and now they've
been with Joe Burrow after his rookie year where he suffered,
he had some good starts, then he suffered the ACL injury.
(02:10):
After that, they've been in a Super Bowl, They've been
deep in the playoffs, and they are a favorite to
go deep in the playoffs, and some have them going
to the Super Bowl yet again this year. But part
of it is that, and it isn't always the case,
but if you draft well and then you get that
dude at quarterback, you nail it with the coaching staff,
(02:32):
Like eventually it all comes together where you can't be
bad forever. I know it feels like the Jets have
been bad forever, But what have the Jets missed on
up until this year during this longest stretch where they
haven't made the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Quarterback play.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Go back to the Bills when the Bills had the
longest streak of teams. I think it was thirteen years
without reaching the playoffs. What changed quarterback play? Look, did
they acquire a lot of other talent with drafting high
for a long time, Sure, but once you get the quarterback,
it almost immediately elevates you to a level that you're
never going to be terrible again as long as that
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quarterback's healthy.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
That's what's happened to the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Don't get me wrong, I'm not blind to the fact
that there have been some bizarre losses over the past
two years, even with Justin Herbert.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Now, they two.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Years ago with the COVID and they had a litany
of injuries. The big loss was one to the lowly
Houston Texans, but they were missing somewhere in the teams
in the starters for that game, twenty players out due
to COVID, and that game sealed their faith even more
so than the Raider game where they lost in incredible
fashion and it kept them out of the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
This past year, they did make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
On the other hand, there were some uneven losses, some
ones that were simply head scratchers, and then you factor
in the way in which they lost in the playoffs,
where they have twenty seven nothing to start the game
and you end up losing in the playoffs. That one feels,
but line man can see that this is an unbelievable
roster in terms of young, burgeoning talent. You have Joey Bosa,
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who went healthy as a dynamic player. You have Khalil
Mack who maybe at the tail end of the stardom
of his career, but still very solid.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Those are your rush ends.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You bring back your all pro left tackle who's only
played one year in the league in sat last year
with an injury. You have talented wide receivers, a well
respected running back who's a hybrid guy, and you have
a superstar or at least star level quarterback in the
Justin Herbert. That's a playoff team at worst. If Herbert's healthy,
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they make the playoffs, and you can sit here and
go go through all the AFC teams and how good
they are. But let's be honest, there's a lot of
questions about the Raiders, about the Broncos, about even the Ravens,
the Steelers, some of the other teams in which you
expect to make the playoffs have them about the Chargers.
(05:01):
What game will they charger which means lose a game
that they should rightfully win. Will they sustain the injuries
that seems to happen to them every year, even more
so than other clubs. But if you look at the
teams that are atop the AFC, the Chiefs are the
one team that was.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
They were always good until they got that star quarterback.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I remember the Chiefs would always lose somehow in the
first round of the playoffs at home on the road
that they were up big against Indy and Andrew Luck,
and Andrew Luck, because he was a star quarterback, came
back and won the game. They get a star quarterback,
and look at how they've now become a Super Bowl
favorite or contender on a yearly basis. Is it more
complex than that? Of course it is? Is it as
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simple simple as that?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Now?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Of course it is that as well. It is that
as well.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
But as you sit here, Jay stew you're a Charger
fan as well. And it's interesting, you know, when they
first started training camp here in Orange County, it's kind
of ragtag, right, they're playing in a soccer stadium. They
were ian Orange County, which had Charger fans, but San
Diego didn't. God didn't embrace them anymore. They definitely weren't
(06:13):
an LA team, whereas now it kind of all fits right.
They feel like and they're moving to LA next year
in terms of their practice facility and training camp. It
it feels like they fit here and it's weird to
be moving yet again.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Oh, I agree, And I remember the first year that
they started up in LA. I want to say and
tell me if I'm wrong, their kind of mantra or
their motto for the season was win LA or beat
the other guy. So it was something like where they
posed themselves against the Rams for the market, and I
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thought that was kind of a mistake at the time
because you're not going to do that as the Chargers
in this market. I think over the last three or
four years, they've just kind of realized who they are
and what they are as a much better team right
now and what they are is. I think they have
a younger fan base because of the approach that they've
kind of taken. So I think that not only are
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they the better team that'sped up for the setup for
a longer run here, I think they have a young
core of fans that's going to be with them for decades.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And it's just been kind of a slow start. Would
you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, I mean I think I think they had They
had a bunch of things go against them to start, right,
They were kind of thrown into the deal for so far.
They weren't very good, right, That's that's a big part portion.
People seem to like teams that are good, right, they
just do. But and and they were literally playing in
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the territory that had a gigantic fan base for a
team who should have been there, right the Raiders and
instead stayed in Oakland, eventually moved to Vegas. So there
was a bunch of things that when I went went
against them. You know, it's something interesting I saw over
the over the weekend preseason game in Las Vegas between
(08:15):
the Raiders and the Niners, and it was virtually a
Niners home game, right, and people are freaking out, you
know what happened to Raider Nation, Like, look.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
The Niner. Here's let me make it really simple.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
For is there a prison furlough in this somewhere they
can't get the furlough?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well you know, I mean, listen, you only get so
many weekends out of jail. If you're a Raider fan,
you gotta you gotta save up those eight or nine weekends.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
And what's your comment, Not every not Raider fan.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Not every Raider fan is a gangster. But there isn't
a gangster who is not.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
A Raider fan, right, And the reason that the Raiders
play mostly on weekends and not Monday or Thursday night
is because Raider fans to get that weekend furlough.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
That's that's the that's the Raider fans.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I don't know if it's politically correct. I'll laugh at that,
but I still find it funny. What to joke, whatever
to joke.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And there's there's some truth to many of much much sarcasm.
There's at least a little bit of truth to it.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But you were saying that that the Niners this weekend
was kind of a home.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Game with Yeah, you just got it. You just have to.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Uh, you just have to understand that it's not as
seamless as as moving to these markets. It's not like
moving to a market in the Midwest or the South
where they just embrace you and they haven't had a team, right,
And fans are going to especially fans in in these
vibrant cities, they're gonna like they like teams that win,
(09:49):
they like teams that win. I think the Raiders fit Vegas.
They're gonna be great there. Uh, the Chargers. I believe
it's a mistake to move to l A. I'm just
I'll be.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Beyond still to this day.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
No, no, no, not to play in LA.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
The facilities.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Like I think that you build a fan base in
Orange County, you're automatically going to have LA fans are
going to be Raider, Cowboy, Niner, Ram Charger fans if
you're good, right. But this this, you've actually built a base.
And I don't agree with the idea of moving away
(10:24):
from that base. Not that anybody actually cares where you practice,
but this is the perfect example. If somebody from out
of the area, or even somebody in the here people
where the Rams practice, I don't know in LA, not
even close to LA. Right there and they're out in
Thousand Oaks, right. You know, it is the other end
of the earth from where we are, which is the
other end of the earth from where they are, and
nobody knows that, nobody cares, but there is a certain Hey,
(10:48):
this team feels a little bit more like an Orange
County team. It gives them at least a bit of
a connection to San Diego. You still have some fans
that would love that would that would come up, and
I think that's a mistake.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
But I do think they're building something that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I was talking to Dan Byer.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
You know, the cool thing about these training camps is
that Dan Bayern and I get to carpool and spend
some quality time together from our place way above Santa Clarita.
I was telling Dan about this, and Dan tell me
if I'm wrong. If there is not a bigger urgency
for the Chargers team than this year, I don't know
what is. And a lot of it has to do
(11:26):
with the fact that they're still operating under Herbert's rookie deal,
that they didn't overspend for Ecklery. I think they've maximized
the contracts for this particular talented group and the Rams.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Are in a transition here. This kind of is the
year to get it done. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Dan? I think it would help.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
But you know, number ten is the biggest reason why
I think that it is even a longer play for them.
They've got something that in this city the Rams don't,
and in this league not a lot of teams have,
and that puts them in a spot that they can
really take advantage. So while I agree with the Rams
kind of being down at this point, when you have
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Justin Herbert as your quarterback, it's really gonna help. I
have friends back on my family back home. In fact,
the seventeen year old cousin loves the Packers second favorite team,
Chargers yep, because they love her yep.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I Actually it's one of it's It's really interesting that
obviously last year we had the.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Is it which oho? Is that? I? Is it Emanuel Manuacho?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Right?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
The Emmanuelacho see that sam Ocho was the brother and
you said shouldn't be on TV, and then Emmanuel is
the one that got into it with you.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Well, well, sam Ocho shouldn't have been on TV because
he listed his top five quarterbacks and he didn't have
Pat Mahomes on the list that actually happened.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
You sure it wasn't a list other than Pat Mahomes
the top He did the top five quarterbacks, and he
didn't list Pat Mahomes like.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
That really happened.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That actually happened, and Emanuelaco then came after me, and
then you know, later on his take was that Tua
was basically the real deal and Justin Herbert was a
social media quarterback, which was funny on a litany of levels.
I know it's not what he meant, but the Chargers
(13:28):
had a lot of fun with the fact that Justin
Herbert doesn't actually have social media.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I think that's amazing, But I know what he meant.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
He basically meant it's all about highlights, not about substance.
The problem is that it just shows you haven't watched
a ton of Charger games, and then, having attended the
Chargers Dolphins game in person, if you thought that Tua
was in the solar system of Justin Herbert as quarterback,
I can't really help you. It's just that it's like
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that conversation you have. It's like these people now who
are going on Twitter and trying to convince people that
the tragic fire in Lahina was somehow a somehow like.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
A government's called d e W. Do you know DW
is like a false flag or no, d W is
they can I know the mountain d e W.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
No, you do, like to very it's where they can
I forget what DW stands for.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
A Hold on me, let me look it up. We
can make sure you added this part out every go ahead.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
The crazy part about that whole situation was when Greg
Gottlieb came in and said, you keep my brother's name
out of your mouth when he's talking about your project.
That was Yeah, it was Acho v. Gottlieb.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
The brothers Gottlieb banded together.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
It's funny.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
And I do have to mention that Emmanuel did go
on the air the day after he went to that
to Herbert game and said, I will not criticize Herbert
for the rest of the regular season.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
That was kind of his weird It was so weird take.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, it was so weird.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Right, And look, I did think they got they they
got they got conservative in the playoffs, but directed an
energy weapon. Yeah, right, that's that's it. So again, that's
the bizarre, like it's one of the more bizarre things. Ever,
It's like when when your reaction to a tragic fire
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is that had to be started by had to be
started by rich people trying to steal these people's land,
and not oh my god, this is terrible, right when
if your reaction to watching that game was, hey, I'm
not going to criticize the rest of the regular season.
How about I was wrong, It's okay to go I
was wrong. That guy is way way better than I thought.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
There should be a sports museum where there's just you know,
podiums and pedestals of people that with their sports takes
that they are they are going to die on that
hill or that is there, like, oh, this is the
there's Emmanuel watch.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You have our good friend Rob Parker right where Tom
Brady's the luckiest quarterback of all time.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Won't come down off that one.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
There would be crowds like the Mona Lisa, you know
around it to see that, to see that one.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
That's abute clerk, that's a beauty.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
It is true.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
People do latch on and no matter what you can do, well, yeah,
it's funny because it's even on the heels of this weekend.
Like I was never a huge twenty Parker fan and
then at the end of his like run and I
don't know if it was seven when he won the
MVP in the finals, I was like, yeah, I gotta
appreciate it, you know, like for what it is.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Like at some point you're just kind of all right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I would say this about Tony Parker.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I would before he was in the Hall of Fame,
I would say most underrated point guard ever. But now,
once you're in the Hall of Fame, you can't say that, right, Yeah,
it's just it's not it.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Maybe at the time when he played, he was.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
When he played, he was underrated, but now he is,
You're a Hall of Famer. There is no higher ranking
you can have, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Kind of like when Andre.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
I remember when Andre Dawkins was up for the Hall
of Fame and the argument for him being in the
Hall of Fame is that he has more home runs
than anyone not in the Hall of Fame. That that
that's not an argument that there's always going to be
somebody who has the most home runs without being the
Hall of Fame. So don't don't sell me that argument.
If that's your argument, that means he's not a Hall
(17:23):
of Famer. So yeah, what you could be over over
or underrated until the day you walk into the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Then you can't do be that way anyone.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, what are the what are the other Aldheimers I'm
trying to think of? I mean, Skip Bayless with the
lebron doesn't have the clutch gene that was that was
that's the big one.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Doesn't have the clutch gen got it.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I mean I would probably be in the hall for
the Steph Curry take. Part of it is the Stephen
Curry take is taken a little bit out of it's
it's not contextualized. Well and oh yeah, by the way,
I mean it's pretty obvious, like I'm not sitting here
going yeah, Johnny Flynn has more upside. Yeah, recurrbio now right, Yeah,
that just qualifies. It's the people that they won't just
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go like, hey, what's wrong enough?
Speaker 6 (18:09):
I don't I don't.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
I don't have the resume that you do, Doug. But
I never believed in Ben Simmons and it turned out
to be true. So there's also like those sort of
things where you're just there's there's the the real belief
of like I just don't see it I just Merril Hodge,
by the way, is making a huge push on social
media with the Johnny Mandel. Yeah, people just grabbing old
(18:31):
clips of his analysis of tram By the way, it
was really really good, Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It was good not because he did the hot take
He's gonna suck whatever. It was good because he went
through what it takes to be a quality quarterback and
what he doesn't see us at all there and like
he knailed that they're going to be fired and blah
blah blah blah blah. And by the way, Skip Bayless,
huge believer there, huge believer in Baker Mayfield. You know,
(18:57):
by the way, my Baker Mayfield take was at the time,
and I think I was working, I was working here.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
We could pull it at some point in time.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Whereas I thought he was a late round talent, okay,
with a first round brain and ego, and you know,
I had I had a GM tell me it was like,
if you surround him with great players, he can be good.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
If you don't, he can't be good.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And you know what, that's really what happened in Cleveland
was when he was when everything was right early on,
surrounded by unbelievable talent because and we talked about this
Dan before you sat down, which is like, look, it's
not really a secret here. What's happened with the Chargers,
What's happened with the Bills, What's happened with the Bengals.
These teams are bad for a long time. Eventually you
draft your crew talent. But once you get that quarterback, now,
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all of a sudden, you can be a consistent playoff team.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Right. I mean, that's what's happened with all these teams.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's where where the Browns were just their quarterback wasn't
good enough, and it eventually eventually water finds its water
finds its level. All right, let's let's get the James
Harden deal. So James Harden calls Daryl Morey a liah
because what you would guess was the deal he took
last year for less, there was a promise for more
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this year, and when that didn't happen, now he calls
him a liar. Now, it should be pointed out that
we don't know if the owner of the Sixers said, hey.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Winn and give him a long term contract.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And I also think there's a little bit of the
NFL running backs thing to it, which is James Harden
is not the same guy he was when he was
an MVP.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
He's not close to the same guy.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
In addition to the other things with James Harden never
really wanted to play defense, right, has at times, hasn't
come in great shape, hasn't one of the playoffs. All
of those things are you know, but like look by
now you know what he is, but he's older and
there's just limitations there. So I think a good portion
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of it is he's lashing out, not just a Daryl Moray,
but he's probably lashing out the fact that he wanted
to be traded and they couldn't find anybody that wanted
to give him what he wanted and guys don't like
hearing that from people.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Let me add some context here.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
So over the weekend it was reported, Dan, you were
on the air at some point here it was reported
that Darryl Moray said that James Harden's going to play
for US this year something along those lines. James Harden
was in China, which is ironic. He was in China
doing an event. I'm sure he got check billion dollars
and said Darryl Moray is a liar and I will
never be a part of an organization that he's a
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part of.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Let me say that again.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Darryl Moray is a liar and I will never be
a part of an organization that he is a part of.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Two Chinese reporters and fans.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
I'll tell you it was interesting because on my Sunday
show that I do with Mike Harmon before this hardened
clip actually came out. Doug, It's something that you pointed
to with the Eric the Enemy situation of if Ryan
Poles didn't bring him in as the head coach in Chicago,
maybe that tells you something. If Jeral Moriy is not
willing to give James Harden the long the amount of
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money that James Harden wants.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Tells you no, yes, yeah, of course I will.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
You and I come a plete lockstep totally agree, you know,
because there you think there's a relationship top Now there's
no relationship there. There is zero chance is zero chance
of having a relationship with somebody who you call a liar,
uh to every media outlet possible.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Right, So now what do you do if you're the Sixers?
He just let him rot.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
I think that I think Maury will probably try to
follow what he did to acquire Harden because it was
with the Ben Simmons thing. I'm sure he'll wait it
out and when the season comes around, that's when push
gets to shove.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Push comes to shove. That's what I think he'll do.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
I think that he actually there was one team that
actually would take Ben Simmons and wanted to give a
way of superstar, and he found it. I think that's
what his goal will probably be this time around.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I was a buyer in to Ben Simmons, but but
so many of the it's this Ben Simmons is one
of those. There were so many red flags there that
you just pushed through.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Right yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And I mean the red flags were when I called
one of his games an LSU game and David Patrick,
who was like his godfather, and David of course used
to play and then coached in Australia.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
He's now the head coach at at Sacramento State.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You know, he was the literally the only guy who
was a fuse in his praise of Ben Simmons, like
when you're there, like nobody else is.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Like, man, he's the best.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
That guy's unbelievable, right, Like when Kate Cunningham was at
Oklhoma State and you around anybody who can say to like, dude,
Kay Cunningham is the best. I love him, love playing
with him, love him as a person.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Love.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
None of that with Ben Simmons, none of that. And
then like there was the long held rumor that the Boomers,
that's the Australian national team didn't want him.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
I just did. He wasn't What wasn't one of them?
You know that he was.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
He left to go to high school in the States
and they felt like he felt like he was too
good for them or his style of play or whatever.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
And he's never played for them. I think he's trying
to play.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I think he's playing for them this summer, right, but
he desperately needs it because the way they play and
the skill work that they do would be incredible. Maybe
it's not actually because I've seen the highlights day. But
the point is there was a lot of red flags
of Ben Simmons that I kind of blew through. I
was like, Nah, this guy's too good.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. When
you're good enough, get it all matters.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Well, you know, And he also fell victim of that
that hype train as well. I mean there's I mean
you look back just over the years. I mean he
was an All Star, wasn't he believe you? Actually, I
know he was. So he was an All Star at
one point, and then you had him making one three
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point shot and then everybody going nuts being like, hey,
if this guy can actually be a three point shooter,
lookout three time All Star because that double checked it.
So I don't know, just didn't two time All defensive.
I'm even impressed by those accolades.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, so is this story that Jason just showed me
that The Australian head coach Brian Gorzhin said, in my
dealings with Ben, it's always been I'm not recruiting you.
It's important for the for the country. We're not going
to say please, Ben, please, we don't have anything if
you don't play.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
He hasn't made an appearance for the Australian national team
since for Australia since twenty thirteen, so I truly hope
for Ben that he ends up deciding it's something he'd
want to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's what Luke Longley said. I've done a lot of things,
but playing for the Boomers is right up there with
the top of them. I wouldn't trade them for one
of my rings. Of course, Luke played with the Chicago
Bulls and Michael Jordan won championships. I've said I would
at one stage stupidly, but geez, I'd love to have
a medal sitting alongside of them. Anyway, when was this starting.
This was August twelfth, So this is just this Friday,
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just this Saturday. Yeah, I mean, that's it's really really
interesting that that here we are, here we are, and
we're looking at a similar situation for the Philadelphia seventy
(26:39):
six ers. You know, it's like a couple of years
a couple of years later.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
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Speaker 7 (26:44):
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Want Your Flex. Twice a week, every Tuesday and Friday,
we come up with new episodes to not only look
back at what happened, what you need to do at
that minute, and also look ahead of what's coming up
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Speaker 1 (27:02):
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Speaker 8 (27:02):
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Speaker 4 (27:31):
Let's get to what the Fox said and now.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Every day here in the Bonus Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
Sports Radio got Dan Byer along with me for the
entire day, same with the Jason Stewart. We played for
you a portion of a previous show on Fox Sports
Radio or Fox Sports One. This is Brady Quinn and
talking about the forty nine Ers quarterback situation.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
I mean, look, I've said this and we'll continue to
say this. He just needs more time, more development, you know.
And you know when Sam Darnold goes in there, things
seem to run rather smooth, and in part because he's
played a lot, right, he's been now with two different organizations,
he's he's been in multiple systems. He can adapt and
he's doing his best just to kind of survive and
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provide an opportunity to to maybe be the guy this
year at when brock Purty's not there or if he
gets hurt. And so I think we know what he
is bringing to the table. I've said I said this
last week, Leavar and you were gone. I think if
Darnald gets a shot an opportunity, I think go play
well in that system.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
It's hard for quarterbacks not to typically play well in
that system.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
For Tray, it's stuff though, because he just hasn't played
a ton of football, and he was never drafted for
what he had done and what he showcased. He was
always drafted based on his potential, and unfortunately, because of
the injury last last season and the way things have
kind of shaken out for him so far in his career,
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he just hasn't had the opportunity to really get the
type of, you know, real playing experience that I think
he needs to be where San Francisco wants him to
be as an organization to be with a fan want
him to be.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
That thing is interesting. Look, I think they're good personally.
I think Sam Donald's gonna win that job. I think
they started Trey Lance and he played, uh he played
pretty well. I don't think that how you play in
a preseason game is going to decide who plays and
who doesn't, who gets the starting job. I think that's
going to be decided in the in the practices where
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you uh where you where.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
You practice against somebody.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
We talked about uh takes that you know are going
to go in the take Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
A little bit earlier.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
M hmm.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I thought Sam Donald would be would would be a
very very good.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Very good NFL quarterback. I was to this point wrong.
Now I'm still a stockholder in Sam Donald LLC. I
still got that my backpack and I and I actually
think he's in a great spot.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
If he could win the job.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I just he has a lot more talent than brock Purty,
a lot more arm talented. Brock perty is a lot
physically more more talented.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I mean, I'd guess brock Purty gets the job back
when he's fully healthy and f cleared, if they you know,
day one of the season. But I think that Donald,
like all he's ever needed was the coaching and the
system that they can provide for him in San Francisco.
I'm still I'm still gonna hold onto that Penny Stock
now Oka that everybody else has sold off, I'm willing
to admit obviously is not nearly what Lamar Jackson has
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become as a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
And that in that part I was I was wrong.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
How much do you think the see ghost thing? You
think people forgot about that?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
No, I think that's a real thing. I mean, I
think you know, admitting it, yea, yeah, that that because
I think there's been there's been more quarterbacks admitted.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
But look, he was in it.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
He was a terrible team, the poorly coached team. But
and that can that can cause a guy to sink, yeah,
or to swim.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I think that there's there's a lot.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
There's a lot with the forty nine ers, and there's
and it's not just Sam Donald. And that's the only
thing that I wonder And I don't blame you for
holding stock on Sam Donald. And when you look at
how played out in Carolina when he was brought in
there doesn't seem like it was a great situation either.
But I I feel that there's been so much praise
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for Sam Donald and it's come at the expense of
Trey Lance and.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
The forty nine ers.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
The forty nine ers talk, They talked to reporters, they
talked to insiders, and information gets out and there's just
this narrative and I just for as great as the
Sam Donald things, you know, the message is, I'm just
taking it with a grain of salt.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
For however, I don't blame you for holding holding onto it.
But yeah, I'm still I'm still a little uh.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Skeptical, apprehensive, Yes, aohens the skeptical. Here's Colin Kalend talking
about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 10 (31:47):
The Broncos did something I don't think I've seen for
quite some time. They kept their offense on the field
for the first four drives of the game. And that's
with a veteran quarterback, and so it wasn't very pretty
until the final play of the final drives.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
So what does it tell.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
You in the offseason for Sean Payton and the Broncos
when he is publicly ripped harsh the previous coach, and
he kept starters in for four series on their first
preseason game, it tells you this is not as plug
and play as he hoped.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
They got a lot of work to.
Speaker 10 (32:19):
Do, It's not necessarily coming together on a lot of
those drives. They were dealing with second and third team
Arizona Cardinal defenders. That's a bad team and an average defense,
and they couldn't move the ball. So I do feel
like Sean Payton, this is a heavy lift. He's got
three things to rebuild. Russell Wilson's game and confidence. That
goes without saying. He was good when he was had
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time to throw, but he's got to rebuild that. The
second thing is he has to rebuild the culture, which
he's talked about that publicly. It was a mess in
the building. And number three, he's got to build the
offensive line and it was shockingly bad.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, I mean, they got to rebuild the offense there.
And but it all starts and ends with Russell Wills,
you know, and this becomes the year which and if
you watch that game, there were a lot of people
talking about how bad the line was, but several of
the throws that weren't on target, there wasn't pressure there.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
So to say anybody knows, I do not know. I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And obviously we haven't been to their practice, we haven't
talked to them as insiders, and we haven't watched with
our own eyes. But it's a crazy thing that you
go from two years ago it was let Russ cook
in Seattle, then he gets hurt, comes back not particularly
good to what a throw Holy cow, Oh my goodness,
what a throw.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
To to this this.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Space where you're like, I don't know if he's any
good or if he's gonna be any good. It's the
craziest thing because usually there's a you know, it's like
you peak in your career, and then together there's kind
of a slow decline. Right, and even Tom Brady, I know,
you want the super Bowl that year, but they weren't
he wanted, they weren't great. That he wasn't great. That
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even the game against the Packers, for example, right, very
good in the first half, three to interception the second half,
Like that's not Tom Brady normally there was some but
he was in his forties. Russell Wilson, there was some
decline there in Seattle byer. You saw some of the companies.
If I would have told you that, here we are
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and we're questioning whether or not Russell Wilson's any good.
A year and a half after he came back from
the thumb injury and wasn't very good.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
What would you have said a year and a half ago, Oh,
I wouldn't have believed.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
Yeah, I know that there was a decline, but yel
as you said finger injury, and you're like, how is
that going to play in?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Maybe there was a little here.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
The reason that the Seahawks let him go though, is
they didn't want to pay him fifty million dollars, right,
and so you still thought that if maybe the price
take wasn't so high, that they would have kept him.
So I think they probably wouldn't, you know, even though
they may have seen to decline.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I don't think that they would believe that we'd be
at this point.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Of the of the conversation, it's completely go ahead.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
But for the same thing that we say with Sam
Darnold in a small window of eighteen months, it may
not be as different for Russell Wilson. You go in,
new head coach, is a first time head coach, Maybe
things don't match up. Not shocking that in the first
preseason action that maybe things just aren't as tight as
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they would be for Russell Wilson to the Broncos and
Sean Payton, I'm willing to give that one a little
bit more time.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Okay, let's get to this.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
This is Craig Carton and Plaxico Burris talking about Jordan
Love and his performance in his first preseason game with
the Packers.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Jordan Love, Green Bay Packer starting quarterback.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Will be benched by Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
This year for real or for case who gay?
Speaker 4 (36:01):
That is who Gay.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Got?
Speaker 7 (36:06):
Because who else water back the ball?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Who has to go?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
You're gonna live and down with this guy.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
That's what we can move on from that. It's a
mast situation. Bre agreed up for this.
Speaker 9 (36:20):
By the way, the Packer's backup the so you know,
is a rookie named Sean Clifford.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah from where? From where?
Speaker 8 (36:28):
Fow by the way, exactly if you're if you're a
Packer fan, you.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Have a choice.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
If Jordan Love doesn't play roll and gets hurt, it's
either Sean Clifford no starts.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Or Alex mcgeu.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Mcgu that's a mass if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 9 (36:47):
Alex macgoot sounds like the dude who was like the
US Felt Player of the Week a couple of times.
Speaker 8 (36:52):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Uh I thought Jordan Love is good over the weekend,
and I don't know what it means long term. But
I think that's a really good roster. I think it's
a good football team. I don't think they'll compete for
a super Bowl, but it wouldn't wouldn't surprise me if
they compete for the playoffs and a little bit better
than people think, you know, and remember, like we can
also there can be some false hope, right, Like they
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play Chicago first week of the season, and there's a
world there where he looks really really good. First week
of the season, We're like, oh my god, Packers are great,
and then you know, it levels off as people have
a book on him. People don't really have a book
on Jordan. Love played in like two games. So surrounded
by a good roster with a good franchise, seems like
he's gonna have a chance.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
And I don't think.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
And one of the things is, yes, his contract looks
like backup contract money going forward to next year.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
But it's not like they have a guy who's sitting.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
There waiting in the wings. They're gonna give him this
whole year to prove himself. And if he fails, he fails, right,
it'd be like like Rocky, Right, if he dies, he dies,
that's what the fox said. What is annoying, Jason Stewart, Now.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
It's your annoying, Doug. I just saw Jeffrey Lauria on TMZ.
He said that Derek Jeter ruined things by removing the
sculpture out of left field. For those that don't remember,
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the Marlins open their new park with this horrific art
sculpture in left field and it was the punchline of
many a jokes and memes and it was just dreadful.
It probably even pre existed Twitter, so memes wasn't even
the thing. But anyways, Derek Jeter was an awful executive
for the Marlins. Yes, Derek Jeter did absolutely nothing for
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that team, but the one thing that he did do
was he got rid of the structure from left field.
So I'm going to do the opposite of what the
owner of the Marlins is doing. I'm gonna say the
only thing that Derek Jeter did right was removed the sculpture.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
From leftfield, and the rest of it was just a
complete ruination.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
So who's annoying in this part?
Speaker 5 (39:07):
It's annoying that Jeffrey Warriors takeaway was that Derek Jeter
ruined things by removing the sculpture.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Okay, Parnott.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
What else the lack of attention that Hubet Brown gets.
So you and I have discussed on this very segment.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Yeah, for the last few on a three on two break.
What you need to look for?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
He always says, if I'm pat Riley or I'd better
do something a little bit more at modern, let's see her.
If I'm Mike Brown, and then he gets into stuff.
But Hubie Brown just got a new contract. He's eighty
nine years old. He just got a new contract from
ESPN at a time when they're shutting contracts, getting rid
of the trim in the Fat, getting rid of Van
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Gundy because he said too many critical, critical things about
the referees. Hubie Brown's getting a new contract at eighty nine.
And I don't think he's ever received the recognition that
he should have for what he does.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
He's a legend.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
I'm going to disagree with you the recognition I think
he has and deservedly so.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
I think he's very, very good.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I don't know if you guys know that Huey Brown
was generally seen as one of the great clinicians of
all time and one of the reasons that a European
basketball has become so successful and so well coached is
he was forever a clinician going over to Europe back
you know, back in the day.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
I think I would disagree with you in that.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I yes, it looks like, hey, we're at this place
where guys aren't, where guys aren't getting a contract when
they're older, especially older white dudes. Legendary dudes though, aren't
replaceable like dick By Talascott. He's uh, I mean he
can't even speak. He said he had throat surgery. He has,
(40:53):
he's fighting cancer. We hope he gets better. But like Hill,
always work there, Like there are certain guys, Lee Corso
will always worked until Lee Corso decides he doesn't want
to do game day, He's gonna do it. So I'm
I'm gonna disagree with you there in terms of this
actually is par for the course Courso vital and and
Hubie now as he received the acclaim, I think he has.
(41:15):
Do people know that when Huby coached though he was
fat and then he lost a bunch of weight.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Wait are you thinking about Frank Layton?
Speaker 4 (41:22):
No choking, he was fat.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Frank Layton did too right Hube was.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Fat and uh.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
After he got fired by the next I believe that's
when he started started losing it, started to lose weight
and then became a broadcaster.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
And he's just like an iconic broadcaster.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
I'm gonna put you on the spot. Best perm on
the sidewines, Oh Brown or Jerry.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Pim Jerry Pim Hube Brown? What about Dick versays Edie
Eddie Setton had a perm u. My coach, Eddie Setton
had a perm He used to eat said back when
I had a permanent because he's a perm is short
for permanent.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
I think Dick Versace is the greatest perm ever. I'm
just gonna tell you that right now.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I'm gonna tweet this out.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah, check that Dick Versaci. What else is annoying you?
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Daniel Jones, the most recent quarterback to turn down the
Netflix series. What annoys me is that I think it
only got two likes. It annoys me that my tweet
didn't get more steam. I said a couple of weeks
ago that they should rename the next season of Netflix
Quarterback with a subtitle of Suckers because they were the
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only suckers who signed up for it.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
It should be quarterback subtitle suckers.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Okay, but so what is the downside to do in
the quarterback? Then I'll never understand this. What is the downside?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Most people don't don't don't have a thirst for attention, but.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
It's not about like attention.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Like Kirk Cousins comes off like a freaking saint in
that deal, all right, Mariota comes off super weird. You
don't really know why he left the Falcon, like the
there's so much they'd left out, so much of what
could be potentially negative.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
And then Pat Mahomes on the Super Bowl like obviously
didn't affect him. I don't.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
I don't understand it. I get guys, you know, Herbert's
a guy, he's turned it down. He just I don't
like attention. I understand what you're saying, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
But my main beef is that nobody picked up on
my idea. That's the annoying part.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
I think about suckers, cut back suckers because their only
suckers are signing up for this.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
You know, if you have a brain, you're not signing
up for it. So those are my three things.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
Jeffrey Laurier for the Jeter comment and the sculpture, the
lack of attention that Hubet Brown gets, which you diffused.
And then my quarterback Suckers hasn't picked up steam at all.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Okay, your comedy work is in the Rob Parker territory
right now. So what else he got?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
No, that's it. Those are the three things. Just choose,
Jeffrey Laurier.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
Now, quarterback Suckers, you know, and huge Brown doesn't get
enough recognition for how good he is.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
That's Those are the most annoying things in the weekend.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Yes, yes, if you guys have better, I'm all for Dan.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
Anything annoy you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:11):
At the club, there's three sometimes four driving range match.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Okay, this isn't the gun club or your gym club.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
It's the golf club.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Golf club.
Speaker 7 (44:21):
Yeah, that can be in the that can be in
the shade. Like there's three for sure, but then there's four.
You could find me at the club sweating profusely because
I'm in the club prefuously, because I think it's like
the bathroom stall sort of thing.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
You walk in.
Speaker 7 (44:41):
There's five urinals stand up urinals for the guy. You
go to either the end or you go to the middle.
You don't go to two and four and you know,
go to.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
One because one's a little guy, you know, right, sure, yes.
Speaker 10 (44:53):
So.
Speaker 7 (44:55):
When there's three spots that are in the shade, don't
take number two. Take one or three so you have room.
You don't feel like, you know, if it's a full
full range, different story. But when it's wide open because
it's ninety five degrees like that, don't take the middle.
And we're on Matts on Saturday, so don't take the
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middle spot because it's the one that's in them shade
the most.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
Take one or three, which are also in the shade.
That was annoying to me.
Speaker 5 (45:23):
They've done research on this, you know, they've done research
where men's blood pressure actually increases and his heart rate
increases when a man stands next to him in the
urinal stall. That's an actual scientific fact that we as
men get anxious, nervous, our heart rate goes up when
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a man sends right next to us to go to
the bathroom.
Speaker 7 (45:46):
I think there's the decision of you don't want to
saddle up right to it, but you don't want to
be so las a fair that everything's open for business,
you know.
Speaker 6 (45:57):
I think that's finding the happy medium of it.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
I think that's fair, totally fairly, yeah, no question. I'll
give you. Something's annoying. Why do so many every school
starts at the different time? Right?
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Why do I have a feeling that this annoying thing
just happened this morning?
Speaker 2 (46:16):
No, no, no, no, no no, I want to starting Wednesday.
One she takes online school, she already started. The other
one starts on like in two weeks or whatever. But
I just there's no universal anything.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
And I started in time in the morning, the actual time.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
No on the actual date. Okay, the actual date changes,
and I don't.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
And we keep pushing like in California to be more
like the Midwest, right where you start earlier in August
and then you're out like in May.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
And I don't.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
That was that was done long time ago for the crops, right,
Like I always like like after labor days when that's
when we used to start.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
I like that one way better, way better? What else
is annoying?
Speaker 3 (46:59):
Man? Those are five pretty good ones.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Dan Byers.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Just just people's lack of understanding for their decisions that
they make and how they affect other people.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
Like and this is the actual easiest parallel is.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Like you're at a at a gym, you're shooting by yourself,
or even better yet, like you're working with your kid.
You're feeding your kid, he's shooting shooting hoops, and then
somebody comes into the gym. There's other hoops that are open.
They come shooting at your hoop. You're like, what are
you doing? Go shoot down the other fucking end, dude,
there's a whole hoop down there. There's nothing magical happening
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at this basket. It's the same thing with the driving range, right,
Like you're out there, you're by yourself, like have a
little understanding of who's going to come in and where
they're gonna be. Just get to the first one, hit
your ball, and that way there's a whole other row
of things. Like I completely agree with you. That's fucking annoying.
That's just annoying. So whoever did that to you, you're annoying.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. Why
are we doing this?
Speaker 8 (48:08):
Why do I.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Because we can?
Speaker 5 (48:14):
Okay, So this this was over the weekend, but it's
been happening at Philly games all season.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
They have gone with this chant. He could depending on
the matchup. I don't know what they're saying, Tom, but
if you want to repeat it, I have to repeat it.
(48:43):
That's good. That's good.
Speaker 5 (48:44):
So that was John Kruk asking the play by play
guy to repeat what they're saying. They're saying fuck you
up really loud, and they've been doing this for most
of the season. Now, Doug, here's the problem with not
having automated umpires, robotic umpires calling balls and strong. Here's
a problem with that is that the fan base. You're
losing your fan base. If the fans could see that
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it was a strike and your umpire is not calling
it a strike, your that's a deterioration in the respect
of the umpire. So if you don't want all of
your stadiums around the big leagues saying fuck you ump
audibly into your into your telecast, then how about you
go to an automated strike song.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
I I I don't think I don't like the automated umpire.
I understand that some of the strikes. Everybody has a
different strike zone and some of that stuff is bad,
Like I get it right, but we we if we're
going to take the human factor out of sports. I mean,
I just I don't enjoy it. It's and and I
get like you're sitting there going like, yeah, but this
call was bad and this guy is bad and and
(49:49):
this is this is awful and whatever. But so what
you're what you're saying is you're saying, Jays two is
even the negative fuck you ump is a good thing
in reality because it gives somebody to direct their energy.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yet sure, yeah, but if enough, like what's the most.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Entertaining spot outside of the actual game, Some of the
most entertaining stuff in baseball are the arguments with the
ump Right.
Speaker 5 (50:17):
The air boom thing last week was amazing, tremendous, But
it's another symptom of what I just said. We see
the umpire making mistakes on an inning by inning basis
that deteriorates your respect for them. It's almost unfair to
them that they haven't gone to the automated strike song.
Speaker 7 (50:35):
If there were robots, I would want an actual robot
behind the catcher.
Speaker 6 (50:41):
I think that that would that is I must have
and then you can.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
Yeah, fuck you robot, fuck you robot. Three year out.
Speaker 5 (50:59):
That wasn't what wasn't name with the robot and uh
and Buck Rogers, bitty bitty what was it?
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Was he twinky Twinkie? Does he look like Twinkie Dan?
Or does he look like the robot in Lost in Space?
Speaker 7 (51:13):
I do have an updated robot, but still with like
a metal head. Doesn't look like an actual human, but
just is an actual robot with like red eyes and arms.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
I just like this need for like perfect. We're trying
to perfect something that's not perfect. Sports is not perfect.
You can't make it perfect. Stop trying to make it perfect.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
We do that with this.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
It's what's fucked up football?
Speaker 3 (51:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (51:36):
You have a game lening touchdown like hold on, let's
go back to the booth to make sure that it's okay. Yes,
they're only on the field stands like, yes, it isn't
back to touchdown like even the good plays we have
to review, like geez, just he called it touchdowns?
Speaker 4 (51:51):
Touchdown close enough, let's go.
Speaker 7 (51:52):
How come NFL referees don't talk back to coaches, but
like Major League Baseball and NBA, ones have no giving
them a little return.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
I think because the NFL guys they have this whatever
is that the side judge who's the guy that's in
front of him, and they just wear those guys out
the whole time. Those poor guys, those poor guys, they
catch so much shit.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
You gonna tell your.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Partner he's fucking terrible, right, Like, it's all like just
wearing him out. And then eventually they go it's enough.
But uh, that's a good point. The Major League Baseball
thing when they go crazy is it's such bizarre theater,
like in no other world does that exist except for baseball, yes,
where you literally could go nuts. And then sometimes those
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guys do start kicking, kicking the dirt on they want
some of it. Yeah, I mean, like look at the
Aaron Aaron Boone thing last week.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
That was amazing.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
All right, let's get to our pick of the day. Okay, sir,
the bet.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Is to you.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Maybe it's time for the pick of the day.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
You guys know this is game week in uh or
where week away? Excuse me from game week in college football?
Speaker 4 (52:58):
Do you guys know that?
Speaker 2 (52:59):
Well, we're getting closer and closer. But you can of
course go and bet on opening game odds. That's where
this pick will come from. Notre Dame takes on the
Naval Academy in Ireland. That's coming up on the twenty
sixth of August. You're like, damn, it's kind of close, right,
You're less than two weeks away from college football. On television,
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Notre Dame opened up as a twenty and a half
point favorite. You can still get that someplace as it's
nineteen and a half now. The Naval Academy, they have
a newke head coach, but Notre Dame change offensive coordinators,
and then they bring in the quarterback from Wake Forest.
It's pretty good, and the thought is like, immediately they're
going to take off. My issue with it is that,
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with the exception of quarterback, Notre Dame hasn't gone out
and killed it in the transfer portal. They're coached by
their head coach is still a defensive coach, and their
offensive coordinator he's the tight end. He was the tight
ends coach. It's not like they came in and you
have a proven track record. It leads me to believe
that early on it's gonna be a little hit or miss.
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A little hit or miss, I'm gonna take the Naval Academy,
especially if I get twenty points the Naval Academy, and
I would also take the under Naval Academy in the
under take it early on now, before the line moves.
That's a lot of points and nearly three touchdowns on
foreign soil. They'll play in actual grass. Give me the
Naval Academy. That's it for the In the Modus podcast.
(54:27):
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