April 13, 2024 • 43 mins
On this edition of The Best Of The Week Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug explains why John Calipari leaving Kentucky for Arkansas is the biggest story from the weekend, and shares why you shouldn't listen to those who will tell you differently than that.
Doug explains how UConn was able to win their second straight title by defeating Purdue in the national championship game.
Doug and the crew talk about the details of the news involving Shohei Ohtani's translator and details released by the Feds after their investigation into his gambling ventures.
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we're in the middle of an eclipse. Although I'm in Phoenix,
I see the sun. Fine, Am I missing something? You
guys are gonna have to forgive me. I've been completely
caught up in all things Hoop, and I've been in
Hoop geeked them and then hanging out with my son
and some friends. I don't how many how often does
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this happen? How big an eclipse is it? Can I
look at it? Will it burn my irises? I don't
actually even know what my iris is, but I'm really
confused by it. But I do think that the idea
of an eclipse is the perfect analogy, perfect analogy because
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we were told all all March, and we keep having it,
and I'm shoved down our throats that.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You are going to, like, no love women's basketball, and
you are going to completely dissociate yourself from men's basketball.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Men are bad and women are good. That's actually kind
of what feels like it's happened, and it's interesting, like,
I don't think the men's ratings are going to be
what they normally are on CBS, But the little secret
is that that's what I love. ESPN is saying, man,
(02:16):
look at these ratings for women's college basketball on ESPN.
The game was on ABC. Now, I know it's the
same company, I understand, but it's not the same network
and network TV massively outrates cable TV, and of course
ESPN generally outrates other cable networks on cable. Tonight it's
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on TBS the men's National Championship and ESPN is what's done,
and cable that's where you go for sports, that's what
we grew up on. And Fox Sports One has made
a lot of headway. And of course there's other cable
networks like TBS that broadcast sports, but they're not ESPN,
and no one would would tell you otherwise. But it's
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really interesting that while the women had a back to
back national champion the men could very well have a
back to back national championship as well. And we're told
this is so much better than what you're going to watch.
And I watched the women's basketball. I was thoroughly entertained
(03:22):
by the fourth quarter of the IOWA game in the
semi finals against Yukon, and I didn't say I didn't
think it was a foul. I didn't think it should
be called a foul. Yesterday, I was thoroughly entertained by
the first quarter of the South Carolina IOWA game when
Caitlin Clark went crazy and at eighteen points. But after
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that it became pretty obvious that one team, just like
last just like LSU last year, was better than Iowa,
and that was South Carolina. But I can only surmise
that it's this It's one of those things where when
you feel like a second rate citizen for a long
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time and now you get kind of some superior status
that you want to make the other side and for
whatever reasons, considered the other side pay for all the
years of holding us down, when I don't think men's
basketball ever did anything to hold down. The women's game
just not as popular, not as fun to watch, not
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as athletic, I not as well played, and I'll be
full admittance, I didn't think. You know, a Perdue game
is hard to watch, and sometimes tonight will be hard
to watch because it's a slugging, physical style that Purdue
likes to play. And you con I think their ratings
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haven't been great because they're just mollywomping everybody. But that
game against Alabama was great, fun watch ball was moving,
it was awesome, awesome, and of course to Conrad Supreme,
I think they won by sixteen points at the end
of the game. I'll make no mistake about it. This
is a Caitlin Clark was an incredible player, an incredible
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human interest story, and now she's off to the WNBA
to challenge conventional wisdom that are we going to watch
women's basketball in the summer when traditionally we have not.
We'll see. But there's no greater sign of eclips than
the fact that last night, if you were doing your
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job and I was listening to another sports radio network
and I was with a friend, I'm in a car,
and I'll say, let's see if they're doing their job,
and they were not. Because if you're doing your job,
you should lead with John Calipery. John Calperry's in the call.
He's in the Naismith Memorial Hall of Fame. He's taken UMass, Memphis,
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and of course Kentucky Tofana fours. He's won a national championship,
and he left Kentucky for a conference rival in Arkansas.
He did the reverse Coach Sutton, who I played for,
who famously left Arkansas and said he would crawl to
Lexington for the job. That did not sit well with
everybody in Fayetteville. He's since been forgiven and he's got
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deity status. But the point is that John Caliperi at
somewhere in the eight and a half million dollars per year,
which is actually a raise from what he was previously
making five years forty million dollars, and at eight million
dollars he makes in one year, what very likely all
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of the SEC women's coaches, including Don Staley, who makes
three point two million dollars, would they all make combined?
And why does he make all that money? Because men's
college basketball generates that much money, that much attention. Is
it as good as it used to be? No? Now,
(07:01):
I do think that it's on its way back. Remember,
you get the elimination of the G League IG night,
and I think you're going to have I wouldn't be
surprised if overtimes the next one to go because players
can make money in college on there and I l
on pay for play the level of compass And next year,
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Cooper Flag if you haven't heard of him, he's six
foot ten, he's from Maine. He's the best player in
America by a mile. Till he's seventeen years old, he'll
be playing college basketball. Everybody'd be paying attention. But last night,
if you were doing your job, you should be talking
about can you believe that John Caliperry left Kentucky where
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he was under contract and they would have had to
buy him out like there was no firing John Caliperry
this year because they owed him thirty three million dollars.
So his dad he's like, Ah, you don't want me,
I'll go get forty some odd million over over five
years somewhere else. That's the story of the day. Sorry,
it's not Caitlin Clark. If you're doing your job, it
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eclipses that story because it's a Hall of Fame coach,
one of the absolute iconic and legendary programs and leaving
that program doing the opposite of what most people do.
And we can get into these was Arkansas better Africa?
It could be a win win win. Everybody's happy. Kentucky
gets a new coach, Arkansas gets a new coach, and
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all the college basketball coaches are happy because they're all
going to get raises because all you got to do
is mention someone's name in affiliation with the job, and
they automatically get a raise. And then, oh yeah, by
the way, we got Caitlin Clark. Okay, JASEU help me
out here. How often does this eclipse thing happen?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Okay, So I'm on record as being one of the
people that have almost zero interest in this. I don't
get the fever. So I'm gonna hope that Nick and
or Sam can fill in the blanks. I think this
is the first one since like twenty seventeen. Is that right? Cope?
What was details? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
That's correct. Yeah, we had one seven years ago. But
this one is a big deal because the next solar
eclipse in the contiguous United States, we're not gonna have
one for twenty more years.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
So this is the last one we're gonna have for
some time.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Twenty more years.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, August twenty third, twenty twenty four is the next
one that'll be over the continental.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
US twenty forty four.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That's awesome. That is incredible. Twenty years Okay, So would
it make you stop what you're doing and walk outside
look at it?
Speaker 5 (09:45):
If I was in the path of totality?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I think yes, if I was in Indianapolis or parts
of Texas and Arkansas. But I mean here in Los Angeles,
it was pretty negligible.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So I did not stop what I was doing. I
drove to work.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I just did you guys hear that? He just us
path of totality.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
That's the term, a phrase you'll never use for another
twenty years.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
When was are we gonna be? Like Nick? I don't
know how old you are. Were you alive for Haley's comment?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I was nots No, I'm thirty one.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You didn't have to give away your age. But I
guess it's just me and you Jay su.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Huh Hailey, Yeah, I remember Haley's comment.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Hailey's comment was everything. It was the it was the
Caitlin Clark of comments. Haley's comment came around, Man, what
year was it? I think I want to say it
came around, oh what year did it pass through? Okay,
so I was ten years old at the time, and
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it was everything. Like you gotta go watch Haley's comment
because it was it's like every seventy four to seventy
nine years or something. I remember petting about his orbit.
So there's a chance we get to see Haley's comment again,
although the next time we could see Haley's comment, we
might not actually be able to see.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It'll be twenty sixty one, twenty sixty.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
One, twenty sixty one. Ah, you know what, I'll make that,
don't you think? Twenty twenty four, twenty sixty one, Yeah,
I'll make that.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I've been doing a pretty rigorous multi bottomin diet, so probable.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Oh, you've had a lot of lines. That's a good one.
That is a that's a good one. Yeah, I mean
I'm not truly would I Sammy Kinsall.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Are you Kinsley in this?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Kinsley? I keep doing that? Are you into this? Are
you into this clips thing?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I definitely walked into the hallway and looked outside up
at the sky a couple times, like around you know,
ten ten thirty eleven Pacific time. It looked like a
normal date to me, so I just kept on living
my life.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Well, it's because you weren't in the path of totality.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I mean, obviously not in the path of totality, only
in the path of partiality, if that's even a word.
And uh, yeah, but I know that. It's it's fascinating,
it's fascinating. I think if, yeah, if I was in
an area where it was at its full effect, I would, uh,
I'd be into it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
But the path of totality, the path of I think
I love that. You know, honestly, everyone, how about this one?
Nick Coke, tell me if you like this one, say
Sammy Kinsley, let me help me. If you like this one,
hasn't everybody who's played Yukon been in the path of totality, Yes,
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but but I will say I will.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Be covered and smothered.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yes, yes, and that's what That's what Donovan Klingen tends
to do. He tends to block out everything.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, tonight at nine, Perdue will be in the path
of totality fatality.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Yeah, you'll also cast a path of totality.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Zak Zach EATI that is a big dude. That is
a gigantic dude. Man.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Be fun.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
It will be something. I don't think it'll be fun.
For new games are not fun. They all look the same.
They're like, was that a foul? Was that not a foul? Gosh,
it's like handy Hanka. It will be something. I'm not
convinced it'll be fun.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
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Speaker 3 (13:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
It's interesting. I'll go a little personal here, So, uh,
Thursday is usually actually the first day of like in
my life, cause you know, today we're still gonna do
some college basketball. I still do a streaming show for
stadium podcast stuff too, Sammy, could you crank that down
(14:12):
a little bit, but appreciate it. We my daughters. Their
eighteenth birthday is Sunday, and so usually this time I
just I remember that day and we'll talk about it
when we get kind of later in the week, as
we get close to the birthday, I'll tell the story.
But it was really interesting that eighteen years ago, I
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remember coming home on like a Thursday, and it was
like my first day where all the college basket stuff
was done. I was like, oh, God, like, I love
the sport I cover, but damn is it a lot.
It's a lot. And then it's over and you miss it.
And we got masters getting ready get underway, and of
course we have then the NFL Draft and the NBA playoffs.
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But it's good to be done. It's good to be done.
Speaking of done, Yukon is done with their path of
destruction with their what was the what was the term?
From yesterday's eclips.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Guys, path of totality, path.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Of totality, path of totality, and the path of Totality
included Purdue last night. I'll give can I you guys?
Can I indulge me real quick? Let me before I
get to why I think the world of Danny Hurley,
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and I'm sure he annoys the crap out of half
of it, maybe even most of you. Let me. Let
me get to the let me basketball geek out for
a second. The reason Yukon is back to back national
champions is because they have three things, maybe four things
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that no one else has a combination. Right. There are
teams that have great culture. I think Perdue has great culture,
but they have really good culture. What does culture mean?
Culture is you look at their bench and everybody is engaged.
You look at how they play and everybody is intense.
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They bring a level of intensity and engagement to every
game that they play. There's a connectivity to how they play.
It's like a symphony. You're like, how do they do?
If you look on social media, you can google, you
can search. Yukon has this ridiculously long playbook. Huge playbook.
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Now there's some tricks to it, right, and when you
read it, if you don't know basketball talk, you're like, well,
what is that? And you know there's horn stagger, dribble away, Okay,
well you get into the horns. Horns is the set.
You know, you dribble away that signifies when you go
to the stagger. You just call horn stagger and then
the dribble signifies the play. But whatever, it's a huge playbook.
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But when you see them doing it, it's like, man,
how are they all planning to do all these things?
You can't play basketball that way unless everybody knows what
they're doing and where they're supposed to be. The reason
I love the sport is the same reason I love football,
because you have one ball. But it only works if
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everybody is doing what they're supposed to be doing on
that specific play and then do it again, and then
do it again. And the reason I like it a
little bit more than football. There's fewer guys for fewer
chess pieces, but there's a continuity to it, back and forth.
You can't stop call a play stop call like you
can in football. Right, it's harder to communicate it's like
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a symphony, and you only get there if everybody is
engaged in communicating and has one agenda, and that's agenda
is winning and they're competing. But you have to do
that in practice every day. You can't just go like, hey, guys,
let's mess around all week, but Saturday or Monday, we're
going to do it. Right. No. I love that. So
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they have the culture, they have talent, and it's a
sport where the talent has been depleted. Now I do
think it's going to be refreshed because the G League
ignite has gone away, and I think I would guess
that overtime elite will go away as well, and there'll
be more guys going to and staying in college, and
there'll be more talent. I think that's a good thing.
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But they have at least three and I think four,
maybe five NBA players in their starting lineup and Purdue
has maybe one. And then they had a great game
plan and they have the ability to adjust in their
game plan. Right. Their game plan was Zach, eatie, go ahead,
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we got a big guy, you score, Okay, Fine, you
are not going to get three pointers and you're not
going to get offensive rebounds. And then you had the
execution of it. You can say all these things, but
then you gotta go do it. Meanwhile, Matt Painter, who
is a great coach in the culture, in the toughness
and in the engagement right, and they're fundamentally sound and
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they accept their roles, but they don't have the talent.
And there was a lack of adjustments to how they
were playing. And by that I mean when they threw
the ball inside to Zach Edi, they just stood there.
But that's how they've played all year. And they have
one guy who cuts. There's something called a split cut. Okay,
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I'm gonna teach you. Sorry, Jay stew and Montsey and Sam,
I'm gonna teach you to see if I can verbally
teach you a little basketball a split cut is and
the Golden State Warriors do this as well as anybody.
They passed it to Draymond Green in the post. He's
not actually in the old school days or with you know,
with Zachati, you that guy wants score. But in new basketball,
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that's not what it's designed for. It's actually to get
the defense to turn their heads and look. Meanwhile, you
start moving and cutting, it flattens out the defense. So
a split cut is I pass to the post, say
I'm on the wing, you're in the low post. Whoever
is at the top of the key, I go screen
for them and they read their defender right and the
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screener reads it. So if his man switches, the screener
cuts to the basket. If the defender who is guarding
the guy at the top chases, you can curl and
that same screener pops. There's all these different reads and cuts.
That's not how Purdue plays. And when you're at an
athletic disadvantage like they were last night, they had no
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one outside of Braden Smith who could get ever dribble
and get into the middle of the defense, which creates help,
which creates open three point shots. They just stood there
and a team that's one of the elite three point
shooting teams in the country. I think they're third in
the country in three point percentage. They only took seven
of them, made one had three of them blocked. Is
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some of that talent? Yes? Is some of that the
talent on the defense and the size of the defenders right, sure,
But a lot of that is the inability to adjust
to how the team is playing and change your style
and you can't change it in game forty. You could try,
but it's really hard. Yukon's back to back national champions.
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And it's not just because they have great players and
because they have great fans support, and they had great history.
They're expertly coached, they have great game plans, they're dynamic
at both ends. And oh yeah, by the way, you
can coach all that stuff unless the players are engaged
and execute. You can say we want to take away
three point shots and offensive rebounds, but it takes a
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special group of young men to actually do it, and
they did, and now they're two time defending national champions.
And you know, I've known Danny a long time. Obviously,
his dad, my dad was a high school coach. Actually
started in Jersey. My dad started as a high school
coach in Jersey at fair Lawn High School. Do you
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know who the coach was before him at Fairlawn High School?
Hubie Brown's true story Anyway, so you know when your
coach's son and his brother was my idol growing up.
But there are certain people that fit certain jobs, right
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And one of the reasons I like my I love
my job is because everybody who I've ever grown up
with or played with, they'd be like, look, dude, you're
basically I idea. I'm basically on earth, and I serve
two purposes. One I can coach and motivate people, especially
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in basketball, but I can do that. And two, I
can talk about sports and have a strong opinion. That's it.
And for Danny Hurley, like, look, Danny was always in
the shadow of his brother. When you're a coacher, always
in the shadow of your dad. He's a guy who
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his chili runs hot. And the truth is he's actually
not like he doesn't berate his players. His negative energy
comes out towards the officials, you know, and all of
those facial expressions, all those, but they're not towards his players.
That's why it works. Does he coach his players hard, sure,
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but he's not berating them on the sideline the way
older coaches maybe were, So it's a new way of
coaching them hard. Does his coach i'mrt sure, but he
said something this past week that I thought was a
maz and he's just like, look, I'm a bit of
I can be a bit of an a hole, but
it works here. Like Yukon fans, Big East fans like
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they're lunatics. They really think that because Yukon's dominated the
last two NCAA tournaments that somehow Saint John's should have
played in the NCAA tournament. That doesn't make any sense, none, zero,
n ah, you know, there is no true correlation there.
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They're insane, they're intense, and if you say something about
their own conference, they will fight you. But it all works.
And so like the Kentucky jobs open, and he could
probably go one point five to two x of what
he's making at Yukon, he's making like five million dollars
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and they'll probably pay him ten million dollars. And think
about it, like you sit there and you were, you know,
fifteen year years ago, you were a high school assistant coach.
You know, ten years ago, you're the head coach at
Wagner then at Rhode Island, and hey, man, you could
make seventy million over seven years, eighty million over eight
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or nine years. And that's, by the way, the starting point.
If you win, you could make one hundred million dollars
and ten years one hundred million dollars life changing money.
Now you're already making close to life changing money anyway.
But man, there are who you work for, who you
work with, and where you fit. And Danny Hurley, who
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played in the Big East, who grew up in Jersey City,
who's the other brother to the greatest college point guard
in my generation, because it's Yukon, And Yukon wasn't royalty
for a long time, even in the old Big East
that was Georgetown, that was Syracuse. It's only after Georgetown
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fell that Yukon kind of picked up the mental It's
only after Saint John's fell that Yukon lifted up. And
then when Yukon left the league, that's when Villanova rose up.
But man, don't leave some if it's if you could
make it work financially, and I think for five six
million dollars a week, I'll make it work. You go
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somewhere you fit. Don't ever leave that place, because I
can tell you there have been places where I fit.
I mean, like, look Notre Dame. I didn't fit, square Peg,
round Hole, Oklamas State. I did. And when I was
at ESPN, I fit. Now ESPN's kunt of change and involved.
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Maybe I don't now CBS didn't feel like a fit.
Different style. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with Notre Dame.
Doesn't think there's anying wrong with CBS. Just that's not me.
You don't look at it and say that makes sense.
Fit is so much of well, it's kind of everything.
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And Danny Hurley fits Yucott and he's running the best
program in the country. And because they as the best
coaching combined with the best culture and better players than
the opponent, they now have not one, but two consecutive
national titles and six six overall. Incredible, incredible.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
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guess there's good news for Shoho Tani as his interpreter
has worked at a plea deal with multiple federal crimes.
So here's what they found. That his interpreter had lost
(28:13):
forty million dollars in illegal gambling for forty million dollars.
Who has the details? Ilo, ISLO you get the details? O?
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Do I have details?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
All right?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
So his net losses were forty one million dollars. So
the amounts that he wagered and won were in the
hundreds of million dollars. Now, among other details in the complaint,
it alleges that infe wait on me, Zuhara, not Otani,
(28:50):
I know, sold down here.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Okay, So he won hundreds of million dollars, but he
lost forty million dollars.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Yeah, so his net losses were loss. His net losses
were forty one million.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Is gross winning was over one hundred million dollars, but
his net losses, so he must have lost like one
hundred and fifty and won one hundred and ten. Yeah,
it might do.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
In the math track, I can find it for you specifically,
but yes, what the.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Like?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
It's those are crazy number? Okay, keep going? What else
they find?
Speaker 3 (29:20):
All right?
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Among among other things, the complaint states, an anecdote from
February of twenty twenty two, Misuhara falsely identified himself as
Otani over the phone and claimed to the bank that
he was attempting to wire money to an individual who
turned out to be the bookmaker for a car Loan
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and the complaint notes that the caller spoke fluent English
and that Otani, of course, does not speak fluid fluent English.
Now the tale of the tape. During a twenty five
month period just over two years, Mizuhara placed nineteen thousand wagers,
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So his total losing bets one hundred and eighty three
million dollars, his total winning bets there for one hundred
and forty two million dollars, and that's how you get
the net loss of forty one million dollars.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Is there any proof that ore Tony I know they're
saying like there's no proof that he knew anything about it,
But is there any proof that he knew nothing about it?
Speaker 6 (30:26):
There's zero evidence that he knew anything about it. And also,
what's notable, according to the Department of Justice, none of
the wagers were on baseball out of nineteen thousand.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Hi Ja Stu, you're a cynic about just about everything. No,
I'm not saying anything or not, and he'll admittedly so,
and the Dodge are your team, but you're super cynical
about this. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well, I think another detail that. I'm not sure if
I will also say that you know they're working on
plead deal. This is going to be get pled out
before any discovery, before any trial, before the public knows
the details of this. So the information we're getting is
strictly what the FEDS are choosing to give us, okay,
And what they've concluded is that Otani knew nothing about it.
(31:19):
I don't know as to your point thirty seconds ago, Doug.
They can't prove that he did not know about it.
They can't prove that he did know about it. You
can't prove a negative. I think a lot of people
have a lot to lose in this Major League Baseball,
by extension the American economy. For this to be kind
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of dismissed and someone be a fall guy for this,
to just make it go away and plead it away,
I think is an everyone's best interest. I just this
story doesn't add up from the very beginning. This doesn't
add up, and the conclusion of FED.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Give me why doesn't add up? Yes, tell me why
doesn't up?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay, The day of the South Korea Series opening day,
essentially he agreed to the translator agreed to a ninety
minute sit down with the investigative unit at ESPN, where
he disclosed all of this gambling information, his losses, and
that his friend Shoey Otani knew about the bets and
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chose to cover four point five million dollars in debt.
He chose to give that interview by somebody's authority, and
then he went into the Dodgers' clubhouse and told them
the exact same story, including the ownership group in the
locker room. He told that exact same story where Otani
is very aware of all this. And then three hours
(32:44):
later we find out that Otani's lawyers say that he
was robbed and that he had nothing to do with this,
that he had no knowledge of this. So if you go,
if you give that context, I believe the first story.
I really do. I just don't believe the way the
story changed. I don't believe the current story and the
(33:05):
fact that this is being ploughed away and we're never
really going to know the story. Well, somebody does some
good investigating. I still am skeptical about this the entire You.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Don't think anybody's going to do deep investigations.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I hope they do. I hope somebody does their job
and goes above and beyond what the FEDS have determined here.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Okay, but what if I what if again we start
with the realization. Don't you think that the FEDS if
they found Otani linked at all that we know about it?
Maybe like that This has always been my thing with
the conspiracy theorists in the NBA, you know, conspiracy theorists everywhere.
(33:44):
Like nowadays, it's really really hard to hide something, right
because you have public what's it call where you get
in public records? Yeah, these acts where you can go
Freedom Information Act, right with Reading of Information Act. I
just I don't see that there's any way that they
can hide. I would While there won't be a lot
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of people, there's got to be somebody out there that
would like to see him exposed if possible. If there's
any exposure, I feel like he will come to light.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Well, think about that. The account was Otani's account, right, Yes,
reading this, it sounds like the transfertor just broke into
his account and then took off the notifications that he
was out this money. So there is a link to
Otania direct a link to Otani. But the only thing
that we can't prove or disprove is that there was
communication between the two about it, And I don't know
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if that'll ever come out, but I will say this,
I don't know if Otawni ever made the bets. I
don't know if he ever He obviously didn't bet on baseball,
so we're cool, But I just don't I think he
was very aware of his friend's gambling addiction and very
well aware of the bets. And I think Otani did
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do the bets. I think he was in on the bets. Okay,
put one hundred thousand bucks on Iowa on Monday night.
You know it's I think he was aware of all.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You think he knew that he was betting over one
hundred million dollars?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
He shouldn't he should? Well, I don't know. I don't
know about that. But nineteen thousand bets by your best friend,
your closest manager. I just can't see this being kept
from him.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Do you know who's your closest friend? Who you don't know?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Your girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Who's your closest friend.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Let's see, maybe a guy named Pete?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
All right? Does Pete gamble on sports?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Do you know how much he gambles on sports?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I don't know but I definitely am.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I told Sam, do you who's your best friend Thomas Thomas? Yes,
doesn't go by Tommy.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
He goes by tom Now I still call him thomascause
we've been friends for a long time.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Thomas. Yeah, Thomas bet on sports. No, Thomas married.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Do you know who Thomas's girlfriend is?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yes? Doctor Ann, doctor and love doctor Anne.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Okay. How much do you know about his personal life?
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Quite a bit?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
All right? How in depth? Though?
Speaker 5 (36:11):
We talk probably once a week.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I understand, But I'm not saying you don't talk. There's
lots of things that you don't something.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Like that from me. Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Oh, I totally disagree.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
He's just very transparent as a person.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Again, there's but there's all everybody else who Yeah, and
again it's not that you're keeping secret about gambling. Now,
part of this is, did you guys see in the
introductory press conference, somebody asked how they met and they
joked about it being at a Vegas A bender in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
A bender, a gambling bender in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Right, And they both laughed about it, both laughed about it.
My guess would be that Otani knew he liked to gamble. Uh,
and part of it is and we talk about this
all the time culturally. Culturally in Japan, gambling is a
much more everyday part of lives. Like it's not as
(37:10):
looked as in a faria in the farious terms as
it is here. Every culture looks at things differently. It's
one of the things that we have a tough time
as Americans is we want people to absorb what we
believe our way of life is the way of life,
but we don't. There's lots of context that we don't understand,
(37:32):
you know, lots of context that we don't understand. And
in Japan, I've been told that the Japanese culture, gambling
is a much bigger part of their culture than is
in ours. In Hawaii, you know, I have a couple
of dear friends who have lived in Hawaii, and I've
always asked, like, why isn't gambling allowed in Hawaii? And
(37:54):
they're like, because Hawaiians love to gamble. They're like, Okay,
that doesn't make any sense, right if they love to gamble,
and you could create more revenue for the government, Like, yeah,
the fear is that in Hawaii, if they legalize gambling,
everybody will go broke, everybody will go broke. So there's
different cultures, and those cultures look at gambling very differently.
(38:18):
So I think it's reasonable to go, hey, O, Tani
knows my man likes to bet and bet a lot.
But I can't think that those numbers. I can't think
that he knew that.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Do you think that somebody who makes I think that.
I think they said his salary was five hundred thousand bucks.
Do you think that a guy with that much salary
could make one hundred and fifty million dollars in bets? Wait?
Speaker 6 (38:42):
Wait a minute, the translator's salary was five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I've heard that in the past.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yes, well, we here's what Ilo your perishing into. We've
actually done segments on doesn't he have the greatest job
of all time?
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I'm gonna go download.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
He gets to go to baseball games and like he
gets to hang out with his best friend in the
clubhouse every day and help him with an interview every
now and again.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
The Angels called him the twenty sixth man. He was
everywhere with Otani. That's why all this is a little shaded.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Men.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
Well, by the way, just on that point, I'm gonna
read you guys a passage about that directly from the
DOJ complaint.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
By the way, when I hear passage, I do feel
like it's the Bible, But go ahead.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
Otani's agent was aware of the account in question and
asked Mizuhara on multiple occasions about the account. Mizuhara told
the agent the account was private and that Otani did
not want anyone else to monitor that account. The agent
stated he did not confirm these representations directly with Otani,
but stated he had no reason not to believe Mezuhara.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
You don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I just think that the translator has agreed to be
the fall guy, and he's absorbed all of this. So
even that recoup, that's just.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Well, if it's not the translator, then show Heyo Tani
has a massive gambling problem.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I think they both do.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I think they But but again, what you're saying is,
if it's not the translator, show Heyo Tani has a
massive gambling problem. And massive gambling problems don't just go away.
You don't just go like ooh, I'm gonna cut cold turkey.
Doesn't app with drinking, doesn't that with drugs, doesn't have
but with sex doesn't hap with any of these things.
It doesn't just go away because he got scared straight
(40:31):
and there would be there would be I understand it's
technically under his account, but they would be. Somebody would
know something, and people don't keep their mouth shut anymore.
Like I don't know if you've heard a LeBatard did
a thing a long time ago on Tiger Woods, on
how Tiger Woods grew up in one era and then
that era changed. He grew up in the era where
(40:54):
Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, all the big stars whatever that
he was around, could do what ever they wanted in
their personal lives and nobody bothered. And then that all changed,
and we suddenly, you know, collectively started grasping in our pearls.
And when he got outed, other things stayed. Our societal
(41:15):
view of marital infidelity had changed dramatically. So it didn't
make what he did better or worse or whatever. It's
just before you know, Babe Ruth, the famous womanizer, and
like to drink and like these things they were like
we usually never mention them because it was their personal life.
Now it became very very public, right, and so with
(41:37):
that in mind, I believe with all this things in republic,
I know that show Hay was a mysterious character, like
no one knew anything about show Hay. So it's very
possible that this is who he really is. It's also
possible to think that he got conned by a con
man that who would think your best friend is cape
(42:00):
belove this It's a great question and I don't know
the answer to.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
How about this angle, and this is the theory out
there that was started by me. Think about the deferment plan.
Think about think about the deferment Remember the Dodgers were
surprised because the the agents came to the Dodgers with
that deferment plan. You know, Showhy's going to get the
bulk of the money at the very end of this contract.
And I was thinking, if you have a gambling addiction
(42:27):
and your agent addiction, the deferment plan is a perfect
way of uh disciplining that addiction. We're not going to
give you the bulk some We're not going to give
you the the the equal payments now because you're going
to gamb it allway. You have ten years to clean
up your act and then you get seven hundred million
bucks at the end.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Do you ever believe in the good and people?
Speaker 3 (42:53):
He works in sports radio. I mean, I'm a skeptic
for sure, but I like to think about these things.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Okay, I mean, listen, Scott Drew did stay at Baylor
for less money than going to Kentucky, like it does.
There are good people who do good things, and there
are people that get snookered right like Conman wouldn't be
able to be Conman if all of us were in
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we're in the middle of an eclipse. Although I'm in Phoenix,
I see the sun. Fine, Am I missing something? You
guys are gonna have to forgive me. I've been completely
caught up in all things Hoop, and I've been in
Hoop geeked them and then hanging out with my son
and some friends. I don't how many how often does
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this happen? How big an eclipse is it? Can I
look at it? Will it burn my irises? I don't
actually even know what my iris is, but I'm really
confused by it. But I do think that the idea
of an eclipse is the perfect analogy, perfect analogy because
(01:32):
we were told all all March, and we keep having it,
and I'm shoved down our throats that.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You are going to, like, no love women's basketball, and
you are going to completely dissociate yourself from men's basketball.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Men are bad and women are good. That's actually kind
of what feels like it's happened, and it's interesting, like,
I don't think the men's ratings are going to be
what they normally are on CBS, But the little secret
is that that's what I love. ESPN is saying, man,
(02:16):
look at these ratings for women's college basketball on ESPN.
The game was on ABC. Now, I know it's the
same company, I understand, but it's not the same network
and network TV massively outrates cable TV, and of course
ESPN generally outrates other cable networks on cable. Tonight it's
(02:39):
on TBS the men's National Championship and ESPN is what's done,
and cable that's where you go for sports, that's what
we grew up on. And Fox Sports One has made
a lot of headway. And of course there's other cable
networks like TBS that broadcast sports, but they're not ESPN,
and no one would would tell you otherwise. But it's
(02:59):
really interesting that while the women had a back to
back national champion the men could very well have a
back to back national championship as well. And we're told
this is so much better than what you're going to watch.
And I watched the women's basketball. I was thoroughly entertained
(03:22):
by the fourth quarter of the IOWA game in the
semi finals against Yukon, and I didn't say I didn't
think it was a foul. I didn't think it should
be called a foul. Yesterday, I was thoroughly entertained by
the first quarter of the South Carolina IOWA game when
Caitlin Clark went crazy and at eighteen points. But after
(03:45):
that it became pretty obvious that one team, just like
last just like LSU last year, was better than Iowa,
and that was South Carolina. But I can only surmise
that it's this It's one of those things where when
you feel like a second rate citizen for a long
(04:07):
time and now you get kind of some superior status
that you want to make the other side and for
whatever reasons, considered the other side pay for all the
years of holding us down, when I don't think men's
basketball ever did anything to hold down. The women's game
just not as popular, not as fun to watch, not
(04:29):
as athletic, I not as well played, and I'll be
full admittance, I didn't think. You know, a Perdue game
is hard to watch, and sometimes tonight will be hard
to watch because it's a slugging, physical style that Purdue
likes to play. And you con I think their ratings
(04:51):
haven't been great because they're just mollywomping everybody. But that
game against Alabama was great, fun watch ball was moving,
it was awesome, awesome, and of course to Conrad Supreme,
I think they won by sixteen points at the end
of the game. I'll make no mistake about it. This
is a Caitlin Clark was an incredible player, an incredible
(05:12):
human interest story, and now she's off to the WNBA
to challenge conventional wisdom that are we going to watch
women's basketball in the summer when traditionally we have not.
We'll see. But there's no greater sign of eclips than
the fact that last night, if you were doing your
(05:33):
job and I was listening to another sports radio network
and I was with a friend, I'm in a car,
and I'll say, let's see if they're doing their job,
and they were not. Because if you're doing your job,
you should lead with John Calipery. John Calperry's in the call.
He's in the Naismith Memorial Hall of Fame. He's taken UMass, Memphis,
(05:55):
and of course Kentucky Tofana fours. He's won a national championship,
and he left Kentucky for a conference rival in Arkansas.
He did the reverse Coach Sutton, who I played for,
who famously left Arkansas and said he would crawl to
Lexington for the job. That did not sit well with
everybody in Fayetteville. He's since been forgiven and he's got
(06:15):
deity status. But the point is that John Caliperi at
somewhere in the eight and a half million dollars per year,
which is actually a raise from what he was previously
making five years forty million dollars, and at eight million
dollars he makes in one year, what very likely all
(06:37):
of the SEC women's coaches, including Don Staley, who makes
three point two million dollars, would they all make combined?
And why does he make all that money? Because men's
college basketball generates that much money, that much attention. Is
it as good as it used to be? No? Now,
(07:01):
I do think that it's on its way back. Remember,
you get the elimination of the G League IG night,
and I think you're going to have I wouldn't be
surprised if overtimes the next one to go because players
can make money in college on there and I l
on pay for play the level of compass And next year,
(07:23):
Cooper Flag if you haven't heard of him, he's six
foot ten, he's from Maine. He's the best player in
America by a mile. Till he's seventeen years old, he'll
be playing college basketball. Everybody'd be paying attention. But last night,
if you were doing your job, you should be talking
about can you believe that John Caliperry left Kentucky where
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he was under contract and they would have had to
buy him out like there was no firing John Caliperry
this year because they owed him thirty three million dollars.
So his dad he's like, Ah, you don't want me,
I'll go get forty some odd million over over five
years somewhere else. That's the story of the day. Sorry,
it's not Caitlin Clark. If you're doing your job, it
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eclipses that story because it's a Hall of Fame coach,
one of the absolute iconic and legendary programs and leaving
that program doing the opposite of what most people do.
And we can get into these was Arkansas better Africa?
It could be a win win win. Everybody's happy. Kentucky
gets a new coach, Arkansas gets a new coach, and
(08:31):
all the college basketball coaches are happy because they're all
going to get raises because all you got to do
is mention someone's name in affiliation with the job, and
they automatically get a raise. And then, oh yeah, by
the way, we got Caitlin Clark. Okay, JASEU help me
out here. How often does this eclipse thing happen?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Okay, So I'm on record as being one of the
people that have almost zero interest in this. I don't
get the fever. So I'm gonna hope that Nick and
or Sam can fill in the blanks. I think this
is the first one since like twenty seventeen. Is that right? Cope?
What was details? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
That's correct. Yeah, we had one seven years ago. But
this one is a big deal because the next solar
eclipse in the contiguous United States, we're not gonna have
one for twenty more years.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
So this is the last one we're gonna have for
some time.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Twenty more years.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, August twenty third, twenty twenty four is the next
one that'll be over the continental.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
US twenty forty four.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That's awesome. That is incredible. Twenty years Okay, So would
it make you stop what you're doing and walk outside
look at it?
Speaker 5 (09:45):
If I was in the path of totality?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I think yes, if I was in Indianapolis or parts
of Texas and Arkansas. But I mean here in Los Angeles,
it was pretty negligible.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
So I did not stop what I was doing. I
drove to work.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I just did you guys hear that? He just us
path of totality.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
That's the term, a phrase you'll never use for another
twenty years.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
When was are we gonna be? Like Nick? I don't
know how old you are. Were you alive for Haley's comment?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I was nots No, I'm thirty one.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You didn't have to give away your age. But I
guess it's just me and you Jay su.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Huh Hailey, Yeah, I remember Haley's comment.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Hailey's comment was everything. It was the it was the
Caitlin Clark of comments. Haley's comment came around, Man, what
year was it? I think I want to say it
came around, oh what year did it pass through? Okay,
so I was ten years old at the time, and
(10:50):
it was everything. Like you gotta go watch Haley's comment
because it was it's like every seventy four to seventy
nine years or something. I remember petting about his orbit.
So there's a chance we get to see Haley's comment again,
although the next time we could see Haley's comment, we
might not actually be able to see.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It'll be twenty sixty one, twenty sixty.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
One, twenty sixty one. Ah, you know what, I'll make that,
don't you think? Twenty twenty four, twenty sixty one, Yeah,
I'll make that.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I've been doing a pretty rigorous multi bottomin diet, so probable.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Oh, you've had a lot of lines. That's a good one.
That is a that's a good one. Yeah, I mean
I'm not truly would I Sammy Kinsall.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Are you Kinsley in this?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Kinsley? I keep doing that? Are you into this? Are
you into this clips thing?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I definitely walked into the hallway and looked outside up
at the sky a couple times, like around you know,
ten ten thirty eleven Pacific time. It looked like a
normal date to me, so I just kept on living
my life.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Well, it's because you weren't in the path of totality.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I mean, obviously not in the path of totality, only
in the path of partiality, if that's even a word.
And uh, yeah, but I know that. It's it's fascinating,
it's fascinating. I think if, yeah, if I was in
an area where it was at its full effect, I would, uh,
I'd be into it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
But the path of totality, the path of I think
I love that. You know, honestly, everyone, how about this one?
Nick Coke, tell me if you like this one, say
Sammy Kinsley, let me help me. If you like this one,
hasn't everybody who's played Yukon been in the path of totality, Yes,
(12:34):
but but I will say I will.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Be covered and smothered.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yes, yes, and that's what That's what Donovan Klingen tends
to do. He tends to block out everything.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, tonight at nine, Perdue will be in the path
of totality fatality.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Yeah, you'll also cast a path of totality.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Zak Zach EATI that is a big dude. That is
a gigantic dude. Man.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Be fun.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
It will be something. I don't think it'll be fun.
For new games are not fun. They all look the same.
They're like, was that a foul? Was that not a foul? Gosh,
it's like handy Hanka. It will be something. I'm not
convinced it'll be fun.
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Speaker 3 (13:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
It's interesting. I'll go a little personal here, So, uh,
Thursday is usually actually the first day of like in
my life, cause you know, today we're still gonna do
some college basketball. I still do a streaming show for
stadium podcast stuff too, Sammy, could you crank that down
(14:12):
a little bit, but appreciate it. We my daughters. Their
eighteenth birthday is Sunday, and so usually this time I
just I remember that day and we'll talk about it
when we get kind of later in the week, as
we get close to the birthday, I'll tell the story.
But it was really interesting that eighteen years ago, I
(14:34):
remember coming home on like a Thursday, and it was
like my first day where all the college basket stuff
was done. I was like, oh, God, like, I love
the sport I cover, but damn is it a lot.
It's a lot. And then it's over and you miss it.
And we got masters getting ready get underway, and of
course we have then the NFL Draft and the NBA playoffs.
(14:56):
But it's good to be done. It's good to be done.
Speaking of done, Yukon is done with their path of
destruction with their what was the what was the term?
From yesterday's eclips.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Guys, path of totality, path.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Of totality, path of totality, and the path of Totality
included Purdue last night. I'll give can I you guys?
Can I indulge me real quick? Let me before I
get to why I think the world of Danny Hurley,
(15:32):
and I'm sure he annoys the crap out of half
of it, maybe even most of you. Let me. Let
me get to the let me basketball geek out for
a second. The reason Yukon is back to back national
champions is because they have three things, maybe four things
(15:56):
that no one else has a combination. Right. There are
teams that have great culture. I think Perdue has great culture,
but they have really good culture. What does culture mean?
Culture is you look at their bench and everybody is engaged.
You look at how they play and everybody is intense.
(16:17):
They bring a level of intensity and engagement to every
game that they play. There's a connectivity to how they play.
It's like a symphony. You're like, how do they do?
If you look on social media, you can google, you
can search. Yukon has this ridiculously long playbook. Huge playbook.
(16:38):
Now there's some tricks to it, right, and when you
read it, if you don't know basketball talk, you're like, well,
what is that? And you know there's horn stagger, dribble away, Okay,
well you get into the horns. Horns is the set.
You know, you dribble away that signifies when you go
to the stagger. You just call horn stagger and then
the dribble signifies the play. But whatever, it's a huge playbook.
(16:59):
But when you see them doing it, it's like, man,
how are they all planning to do all these things?
You can't play basketball that way unless everybody knows what
they're doing and where they're supposed to be. The reason
I love the sport is the same reason I love football,
because you have one ball. But it only works if
(17:21):
everybody is doing what they're supposed to be doing on
that specific play and then do it again, and then
do it again. And the reason I like it a
little bit more than football. There's fewer guys for fewer
chess pieces, but there's a continuity to it, back and forth.
You can't stop call a play stop call like you
can in football. Right, it's harder to communicate it's like
(17:43):
a symphony, and you only get there if everybody is
engaged in communicating and has one agenda, and that's agenda
is winning and they're competing. But you have to do
that in practice every day. You can't just go like, hey, guys,
let's mess around all week, but Saturday or Monday, we're
going to do it. Right. No. I love that. So
(18:03):
they have the culture, they have talent, and it's a
sport where the talent has been depleted. Now I do
think it's going to be refreshed because the G League
ignite has gone away, and I think I would guess
that overtime elite will go away as well, and there'll
be more guys going to and staying in college, and
there'll be more talent. I think that's a good thing.
(18:26):
But they have at least three and I think four,
maybe five NBA players in their starting lineup and Purdue
has maybe one. And then they had a great game
plan and they have the ability to adjust in their
game plan. Right. Their game plan was Zach, eatie, go ahead,
(18:52):
we got a big guy, you score, Okay, Fine, you
are not going to get three pointers and you're not
going to get offensive rebounds. And then you had the
execution of it. You can say all these things, but
then you gotta go do it. Meanwhile, Matt Painter, who
is a great coach in the culture, in the toughness
and in the engagement right, and they're fundamentally sound and
(19:16):
they accept their roles, but they don't have the talent.
And there was a lack of adjustments to how they
were playing. And by that I mean when they threw
the ball inside to Zach Edi, they just stood there.
But that's how they've played all year. And they have
one guy who cuts. There's something called a split cut. Okay,
(19:38):
I'm gonna teach you. Sorry, Jay stew and Montsey and Sam,
I'm gonna teach you to see if I can verbally
teach you a little basketball a split cut is and
the Golden State Warriors do this as well as anybody.
They passed it to Draymond Green in the post. He's
not actually in the old school days or with you know,
with Zachati, you that guy wants score. But in new basketball,
(20:03):
that's not what it's designed for. It's actually to get
the defense to turn their heads and look. Meanwhile, you
start moving and cutting, it flattens out the defense. So
a split cut is I pass to the post, say
I'm on the wing, you're in the low post. Whoever
is at the top of the key, I go screen
for them and they read their defender right and the
(20:26):
screener reads it. So if his man switches, the screener
cuts to the basket. If the defender who is guarding
the guy at the top chases, you can curl and
that same screener pops. There's all these different reads and cuts.
That's not how Purdue plays. And when you're at an
athletic disadvantage like they were last night, they had no
(20:49):
one outside of Braden Smith who could get ever dribble
and get into the middle of the defense, which creates help,
which creates open three point shots. They just stood there
and a team that's one of the elite three point
shooting teams in the country. I think they're third in
the country in three point percentage. They only took seven
of them, made one had three of them blocked. Is
(21:10):
some of that talent? Yes? Is some of that the
talent on the defense and the size of the defenders right, sure,
But a lot of that is the inability to adjust
to how the team is playing and change your style
and you can't change it in game forty. You could try,
but it's really hard. Yukon's back to back national champions.
(21:32):
And it's not just because they have great players and
because they have great fans support, and they had great history.
They're expertly coached, they have great game plans, they're dynamic
at both ends. And oh yeah, by the way, you
can coach all that stuff unless the players are engaged
and execute. You can say we want to take away
three point shots and offensive rebounds, but it takes a
(21:54):
special group of young men to actually do it, and
they did, and now they're two time defending national champions.
And you know, I've known Danny a long time. Obviously,
his dad, my dad was a high school coach. Actually
started in Jersey. My dad started as a high school
coach in Jersey at fair Lawn High School. Do you
(22:16):
know who the coach was before him at Fairlawn High School?
Hubie Brown's true story Anyway, so you know when your
coach's son and his brother was my idol growing up.
But there are certain people that fit certain jobs, right
(22:39):
And one of the reasons I like my I love
my job is because everybody who I've ever grown up
with or played with, they'd be like, look, dude, you're
basically I idea. I'm basically on earth, and I serve
two purposes. One I can coach and motivate people, especially
(23:02):
in basketball, but I can do that. And two, I
can talk about sports and have a strong opinion. That's it.
And for Danny Hurley, like, look, Danny was always in
the shadow of his brother. When you're a coacher, always
in the shadow of your dad. He's a guy who
(23:25):
his chili runs hot. And the truth is he's actually
not like he doesn't berate his players. His negative energy
comes out towards the officials, you know, and all of
those facial expressions, all those, but they're not towards his players.
That's why it works. Does he coach his players hard, sure,
(23:46):
but he's not berating them on the sideline the way
older coaches maybe were, So it's a new way of
coaching them hard. Does his coach i'mrt sure, but he
said something this past week that I thought was a
maz and he's just like, look, I'm a bit of
I can be a bit of an a hole, but
it works here. Like Yukon fans, Big East fans like
(24:09):
they're lunatics. They really think that because Yukon's dominated the
last two NCAA tournaments that somehow Saint John's should have
played in the NCAA tournament. That doesn't make any sense, none, zero,
n ah, you know, there is no true correlation there.
(24:33):
They're insane, they're intense, and if you say something about
their own conference, they will fight you. But it all works.
And so like the Kentucky jobs open, and he could
probably go one point five to two x of what
he's making at Yukon, he's making like five million dollars
(24:54):
and they'll probably pay him ten million dollars. And think
about it, like you sit there and you were, you know,
fifteen year years ago, you were a high school assistant coach.
You know, ten years ago, you're the head coach at
Wagner then at Rhode Island, and hey, man, you could
make seventy million over seven years, eighty million over eight
(25:16):
or nine years. And that's, by the way, the starting point.
If you win, you could make one hundred million dollars
and ten years one hundred million dollars life changing money.
Now you're already making close to life changing money anyway.
But man, there are who you work for, who you
work with, and where you fit. And Danny Hurley, who
(25:38):
played in the Big East, who grew up in Jersey City,
who's the other brother to the greatest college point guard
in my generation, because it's Yukon, And Yukon wasn't royalty
for a long time, even in the old Big East
that was Georgetown, that was Syracuse. It's only after Georgetown
(26:01):
fell that Yukon kind of picked up the mental It's
only after Saint John's fell that Yukon lifted up. And
then when Yukon left the league, that's when Villanova rose up.
But man, don't leave some if it's if you could
make it work financially, and I think for five six
million dollars a week, I'll make it work. You go
(26:24):
somewhere you fit. Don't ever leave that place, because I
can tell you there have been places where I fit.
I mean, like, look Notre Dame. I didn't fit, square Peg,
round Hole, Oklamas State. I did. And when I was
at ESPN, I fit. Now ESPN's kunt of change and involved.
(26:45):
Maybe I don't now CBS didn't feel like a fit.
Different style. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with Notre Dame.
Doesn't think there's anying wrong with CBS. Just that's not me.
You don't look at it and say that makes sense.
Fit is so much of well, it's kind of everything.
(27:05):
And Danny Hurley fits Yucott and he's running the best
program in the country. And because they as the best
coaching combined with the best culture and better players than
the opponent, they now have not one, but two consecutive
national titles and six six overall. Incredible, incredible.
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guess there's good news for Shoho Tani as his interpreter
has worked at a plea deal with multiple federal crimes.
So here's what they found. That his interpreter had lost
(28:13):
forty million dollars in illegal gambling for forty million dollars.
Who has the details? Ilo, ISLO you get the details? O?
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Do I have details?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
All right?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
So his net losses were forty one million dollars. So
the amounts that he wagered and won were in the
hundreds of million dollars. Now, among other details in the complaint,
it alleges that infe wait on me, Zuhara, not Otani,
(28:50):
I know, sold down here.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Okay, So he won hundreds of million dollars, but he
lost forty million dollars.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Yeah, so his net losses were loss. His net losses
were forty one million.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Is gross winning was over one hundred million dollars, but
his net losses, so he must have lost like one
hundred and fifty and won one hundred and ten. Yeah,
it might do.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
In the math track, I can find it for you specifically,
but yes, what the.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Like?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
It's those are crazy number? Okay, keep going? What else
they find?
Speaker 3 (29:20):
All right?
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Among among other things, the complaint states, an anecdote from
February of twenty twenty two, Misuhara falsely identified himself as
Otani over the phone and claimed to the bank that
he was attempting to wire money to an individual who
turned out to be the bookmaker for a car Loan
(29:42):
and the complaint notes that the caller spoke fluent English
and that Otani, of course, does not speak fluid fluent English.
Now the tale of the tape. During a twenty five
month period just over two years, Mizuhara placed nineteen thousand wagers,
(30:03):
So his total losing bets one hundred and eighty three
million dollars, his total winning bets there for one hundred
and forty two million dollars, and that's how you get
the net loss of forty one million dollars.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Is there any proof that ore Tony I know they're
saying like there's no proof that he knew anything about it,
But is there any proof that he knew nothing about it?
Speaker 6 (30:26):
There's zero evidence that he knew anything about it. And also,
what's notable, according to the Department of Justice, none of
the wagers were on baseball out of nineteen thousand.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Hi Ja Stu, you're a cynic about just about everything. No,
I'm not saying anything or not, and he'll admittedly so,
and the Dodge are your team, but you're super cynical
about this. What do you think?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well, I think another detail that. I'm not sure if
I will also say that you know they're working on
plead deal. This is going to be get pled out
before any discovery, before any trial, before the public knows
the details of this. So the information we're getting is
strictly what the FEDS are choosing to give us, okay,
And what they've concluded is that Otani knew nothing about it.
(31:19):
I don't know as to your point thirty seconds ago, Doug.
They can't prove that he did not know about it.
They can't prove that he did know about it. You
can't prove a negative. I think a lot of people
have a lot to lose in this Major League Baseball,
by extension the American economy. For this to be kind
(31:39):
of dismissed and someone be a fall guy for this,
to just make it go away and plead it away,
I think is an everyone's best interest. I just this
story doesn't add up from the very beginning. This doesn't
add up, and the conclusion of FED.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Give me why doesn't add up? Yes, tell me why
doesn't up?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay, The day of the South Korea Series opening day,
essentially he agreed to the translator agreed to a ninety
minute sit down with the investigative unit at ESPN, where
he disclosed all of this gambling information, his losses, and
that his friend Shoey Otani knew about the bets and
(32:23):
chose to cover four point five million dollars in debt.
He chose to give that interview by somebody's authority, and
then he went into the Dodgers' clubhouse and told them
the exact same story, including the ownership group in the
locker room. He told that exact same story where Otani
is very aware of all this. And then three hours
(32:44):
later we find out that Otani's lawyers say that he
was robbed and that he had nothing to do with this,
that he had no knowledge of this. So if you go,
if you give that context, I believe the first story.
I really do. I just don't believe the way the
story changed. I don't believe the current story and the
(33:05):
fact that this is being ploughed away and we're never
really going to know the story. Well, somebody does some
good investigating. I still am skeptical about this the entire You.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Don't think anybody's going to do deep investigations.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I hope they do. I hope somebody does their job
and goes above and beyond what the FEDS have determined here.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Okay, but what if I what if again we start
with the realization. Don't you think that the FEDS if
they found Otani linked at all that we know about it?
Maybe like that This has always been my thing with
the conspiracy theorists in the NBA, you know, conspiracy theorists everywhere.
(33:44):
Like nowadays, it's really really hard to hide something, right
because you have public what's it call where you get
in public records? Yeah, these acts where you can go
Freedom Information Act, right with Reading of Information Act. I
just I don't see that there's any way that they
can hide. I would While there won't be a lot
(34:06):
of people, there's got to be somebody out there that
would like to see him exposed if possible. If there's
any exposure, I feel like he will come to light.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Well, think about that. The account was Otani's account, right, Yes,
reading this, it sounds like the transfertor just broke into
his account and then took off the notifications that he
was out this money. So there is a link to
Otania direct a link to Otani. But the only thing
that we can't prove or disprove is that there was
communication between the two about it, And I don't know
(34:38):
if that'll ever come out, but I will say this,
I don't know if Otawni ever made the bets. I
don't know if he ever He obviously didn't bet on baseball,
so we're cool, But I just don't I think he
was very aware of his friend's gambling addiction and very
well aware of the bets. And I think Otani did
(34:58):
do the bets. I think he was in on the bets. Okay,
put one hundred thousand bucks on Iowa on Monday night.
You know it's I think he was aware of all.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
You think he knew that he was betting over one
hundred million dollars?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
He shouldn't he should? Well, I don't know. I don't
know about that. But nineteen thousand bets by your best friend,
your closest manager. I just can't see this being kept
from him.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Do you know who's your closest friend? Who you don't know?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Your girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Who's your closest friend.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Let's see, maybe a guy named Pete?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
All right? Does Pete gamble on sports?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Do you know how much he gambles on sports?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I don't know but I definitely am.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I told Sam, do you who's your best friend Thomas Thomas? Yes,
doesn't go by Tommy.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
He goes by tom Now I still call him thomascause
we've been friends for a long time.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Thomas. Yeah, Thomas bet on sports. No, Thomas married.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Do you know who Thomas's girlfriend is?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yes? Doctor Ann, doctor and love doctor Anne.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Okay. How much do you know about his personal life?
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Quite a bit?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
All right? How in depth? Though?
Speaker 5 (36:11):
We talk probably once a week.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I understand, But I'm not saying you don't talk. There's
lots of things that you don't something.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Like that from me. Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Oh, I totally disagree.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
He's just very transparent as a person.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Again, there's but there's all everybody else who Yeah, and
again it's not that you're keeping secret about gambling. Now,
part of this is, did you guys see in the
introductory press conference, somebody asked how they met and they
joked about it being at a Vegas A bender in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
A bender, a gambling bender in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Right, And they both laughed about it, both laughed about it.
My guess would be that Otani knew he liked to gamble. Uh,
and part of it is and we talk about this
all the time culturally. Culturally in Japan, gambling is a
much more everyday part of lives. Like it's not as
(37:10):
looked as in a faria in the farious terms as
it is here. Every culture looks at things differently. It's
one of the things that we have a tough time
as Americans is we want people to absorb what we
believe our way of life is the way of life,
but we don't. There's lots of context that we don't understand,
(37:32):
you know, lots of context that we don't understand. And
in Japan, I've been told that the Japanese culture, gambling
is a much bigger part of their culture than is
in ours. In Hawaii, you know, I have a couple
of dear friends who have lived in Hawaii, and I've
always asked, like, why isn't gambling allowed in Hawaii? And
(37:54):
they're like, because Hawaiians love to gamble. They're like, Okay,
that doesn't make any sense, right if they love to gamble,
and you could create more revenue for the government, Like, yeah,
the fear is that in Hawaii, if they legalize gambling,
everybody will go broke, everybody will go broke. So there's
different cultures, and those cultures look at gambling very differently.
(38:18):
So I think it's reasonable to go, hey, O, Tani
knows my man likes to bet and bet a lot.
But I can't think that those numbers. I can't think
that he knew that.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Do you think that somebody who makes I think that.
I think they said his salary was five hundred thousand bucks.
Do you think that a guy with that much salary
could make one hundred and fifty million dollars in bets? Wait?
Speaker 6 (38:42):
Wait a minute, the translator's salary was five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I've heard that in the past.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yes, well, we here's what Ilo your perishing into. We've
actually done segments on doesn't he have the greatest job
of all time?
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I'm gonna go download.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
He gets to go to baseball games and like he
gets to hang out with his best friend in the
clubhouse every day and help him with an interview every
now and again.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
The Angels called him the twenty sixth man. He was
everywhere with Otani. That's why all this is a little shaded.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Men.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
Well, by the way, just on that point, I'm gonna
read you guys a passage about that directly from the
DOJ complaint.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
By the way, when I hear passage, I do feel
like it's the Bible, But go ahead.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
Otani's agent was aware of the account in question and
asked Mizuhara on multiple occasions about the account. Mizuhara told
the agent the account was private and that Otani did
not want anyone else to monitor that account. The agent
stated he did not confirm these representations directly with Otani,
but stated he had no reason not to believe Mezuhara.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
You don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I just think that the translator has agreed to be
the fall guy, and he's absorbed all of this. So
even that recoup, that's just.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Well, if it's not the translator, then show Heyo Tani
has a massive gambling problem.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I think they both do.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I think they But but again, what you're saying is,
if it's not the translator, show Heyo Tani has a
massive gambling problem. And massive gambling problems don't just go away.
You don't just go like ooh, I'm gonna cut cold turkey.
Doesn't app with drinking, doesn't that with drugs, doesn't have
but with sex doesn't hap with any of these things.
It doesn't just go away because he got scared straight
(40:31):
and there would be there would be I understand it's
technically under his account, but they would be. Somebody would
know something, and people don't keep their mouth shut anymore.
Like I don't know if you've heard a LeBatard did
a thing a long time ago on Tiger Woods, on
how Tiger Woods grew up in one era and then
that era changed. He grew up in the era where
(40:54):
Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, all the big stars whatever that
he was around, could do what ever they wanted in
their personal lives and nobody bothered. And then that all changed,
and we suddenly, you know, collectively started grasping in our pearls.
And when he got outed, other things stayed. Our societal
(41:15):
view of marital infidelity had changed dramatically. So it didn't
make what he did better or worse or whatever. It's
just before you know, Babe Ruth, the famous womanizer, and
like to drink and like these things they were like
we usually never mention them because it was their personal life.
Now it became very very public, right, and so with
(41:37):
that in mind, I believe with all this things in republic,
I know that show Hay was a mysterious character, like
no one knew anything about show Hay. So it's very
possible that this is who he really is. It's also
possible to think that he got conned by a con
man that who would think your best friend is cape
(42:00):
belove this It's a great question and I don't know
the answer to.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
How about this angle, and this is the theory out
there that was started by me. Think about the deferment plan.
Think about think about the deferment Remember the Dodgers were
surprised because the the agents came to the Dodgers with
that deferment plan. You know, Showhy's going to get the
bulk of the money at the very end of this contract.
And I was thinking, if you have a gambling addiction
(42:27):
and your agent addiction, the deferment plan is a perfect
way of uh disciplining that addiction. We're not going to
give you the bulk some We're not going to give
you the the the equal payments now because you're going
to gamb it allway. You have ten years to clean
up your act and then you get seven hundred million
bucks at the end.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Do you ever believe in the good and people?
Speaker 3 (42:53):
He works in sports radio. I mean, I'm a skeptic
for sure, but I like to think about these things.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Okay, I mean, listen, Scott Drew did stay at Baylor
for less money than going to Kentucky, like it does.
There are good people who do good things, and there
are people that get snookered right like Conman wouldn't be
able to be Conman if all of us were in
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