August 3, 2024 • 47 mins
Doug expresses his disappointment in Steve Kerr as he gave into the criticism and started Jayson Tatum against South Sudan.
Doug take about Team USA hoops and the decisions Steve Kerr has made in the first two games.
Doug and the crew share what they loved and hated most from the weekend in this edition of "Love and Hate".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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we're getting ready to watch Team USA rematch against South Sudan,
a team they survived in a friendly. They are a
twenty nine point favorite, and Steve Kerr has done exactly
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what I hoped he would not do, but he's doing
it and she is starting line up there. Jay su
starting lineup guys includes not only Anthony Davis at the
center position as Joel Andmbie has continued to struggle, but
it also includes Jason Tatum, who famously did not play
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d NP DNPCD in his first game, and look again,
there is there are plenty of reasonable ways to look
at this thing, but starting him from not playing him
And let me reiterate something that when awful announcing picks
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up our sound. When other sites pick up our sounds,
sometimes they miss on something. Remember what I'm speaking from
his actual experience. I understand that the players are not
nearly to the level of the US men's national team.
I'm fully aware of that. What I'm trying to point out, though,
is that I have a working knowledge and feeling about
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coaching teams where you have twelve viable players on some level,
guys that want and expect to play, and really having
only the ability to play ten And you kind of
got to break things down. And I get he was
first team All NBA three last three years, but whatever
their evaluation was led them to put him eleventh on
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the depth chart last game. So even though the matchups changed,
and that's fair to go from not playing the starting
outside from the fact that you're going to get to rest.
You know, if look, Lebron doesn't want to play because
he wants to rest, but I don't see that happening.
We just get we're getting super silly with it. We're
getting to the point where it feels like that old
adage of if the second you start listening to fans,
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next thing, you know, you'll become one of them, right,
And I just I can only watch this thing and think,
that's what's happening here is we are giving in to pressure,
and that's you can't do that when you're the coach
of a team as important as as the US men's
national team. Just can't. The trade deadline has come and gone.
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I don't know, I'm just fired up at at Dan
Byer's last update. Right, if you listen, Dan Buyer's update
was Jackson Holliday, who just got called up. And remember
he's not on a Friend of the program. He's a
personal friend of mine. I guess like I'm more friends
with his dad, right, But Jackson is a great, great
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I don't want to say kid, because he's married and
he's an adult, but he's an awesome dude. And I'm
just incredibly happy for him because it was pretty miserable
last time around, right, I mean, what was he It
was like two for thirty or something. I was there
for his last game, which he did have one hidden,
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but he was. His numbers were were just bad. I
mean imagine that, right, You don't you don't do anything
your first time around, nothing, your first time around up
in the majors. You go back, you crush in the
minors for second straight year. There's only second year in
minor league baseball, and you know they time it out.
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They wait, they wait till after the trade deadline. People
obviously wanted you. You get called up and now you
hit a Grand Slam home run. That's not bad. I
can't imagine what that feels like. You know, that's the
how you like me now? And that was basic. But anyway,
we'll keep an eye on this South sud An game.
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We mentioned to you the trade deadline stuff, which I
don't want to say it was. It was boring because
that's it. Wasn't that your take, Jasetew is like it
just it's it's baseball's chance to really make noise, make
hay and they kind of butchered because all you hear
is these these relievers and you haven't heard of The
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one point though, is that isn't that how you win
postseason baseball? Like had the Dodgers done that last year?
Win your Dodgers have won the World Series.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh, I don't know about that, but I will say this,
there are there's a finite number of days on the
calendar for baseball to be relevant, and yesterday was one
of them. And I think like eighty percent of the
players were relievers that nobody's heard of. There's no fix,
there's no one to blame. It's just that MLB always
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tends to be uninteresting at times when they should be
making news. So that's just kind of my lamenting.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I think it's a great point. It's kind of like
the Mike Trout thing all over again, and not that
obviously Mike trouton only wasn't traded yesterday, but apparently had
a setback. My point about it being a Mike Trout
thing is that for years we've heard, well, Mike Trout.
They're not promoting Mike Trout. You know, Baseball doesn't, the
Angels don't because they're not. My point, He's like, what
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do you want him to do? You know, I'm I'm
not exactly sure what you want him to do other than,
you know, pants somebody as he's as he's running around
the basis, it's like the only thing I can think of,
because you can't make a sport that's kind of uninteresting interesting.
It's to the baseball dork, yesterday's yesterday's run on relievers
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is incredibly important because well, that's what the sport has become,
especially in the postseason. But to anybody else's boring his
sin yet, that's how you build a championship team is
you don't do it with adding a big bopper late
in the year. You do it by adding arms. Is
there any bitterness over something the Dodgers didn't didn't do, Jason,
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that's led you to feel that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Way, Yeah, I mean the Dodgers. According to everybody who
reviewed the Dodgers moves at the deadline, the Dodgers got
away with murder. They didn't give up any prospects, and
they got like four, like a couple of utility guys,
a reliever and a starter. But none of them really
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moved the needle. You know, none of them are going
to get anybody's interest outside of Dodger fans.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, I get it. But what we'll get interest is
if the Dodgers win the.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
World Series, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I mean, that'll get a substantial amount of interest. And
I think that's important not just to the Dodgers, but
also to the league itself, Like the league needs the Dodgers,
the league, the league needs the Yankees to go deep
into the playoffs and best case scenario is them to
play in the World Series.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Who do you think is a bigger, bigger need for
baseball Yankees or Dodgers Yankees. Yeah, that's what I thought too,
And I thought maybe it was with Showhy it could
change a little bit, but I just kind of think
that the Yankees are just on that even still just
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that different level.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yep, I agree. I don't think it's I don't think
it's actually close. Again when you get Jason agreeing with
you Dodger fans like, I mean, plus we're in the media,
but we get it. But yeah, it's it's not close.
I mean some of it is, you know, historical success
with all the World Series. So they're they're frankly very
much like they're more successful version of the Cowboys. And
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that's because you know, when so many people were now adults,
were kids, the Yankees were winning all those World Series
with Derek Cheeter and Bernie Williams, et cetera, et cetera.
So I think that's what it's about. They're they're both
iconic franchises. It's just the Yankee thing is different. It's
just it's just different, the level of importance of everything,
and there's just a greater level of passion in the
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over the overall sports fan. It doesn't mean, you know,
Dodger fans will sit there go, hey, we draw four
million people like that's great, okay, but the Yankees do too,
and just their TV numbers far exceeded because people that
don't grow up in UH and around La aren't aren't
aren't Dodger fans, whereas there are game fans everywhere. And
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I think most of it is because they won when
people were younger, and people become fans of teams that win.
It's really it really is that simple. I mean, that's
Lebron and that's how Lebron James clearly became a Yankee fan, right,
He's a front runner, you know. And I'm and and
as much as that sounds like you're being I'm being
critical of Lebron James. The reality is, when you're a kid,
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you're growing up in Ohio, a lot of people aren't
baseball fans. You are a baseball fan. You're going to
be fans with whatever team you think is the best.
And Derek Jeter frankly made the Yankee made made the
Yankees cool for a long time. So I don't know
if that answers your question.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I think a good barometer is a you know, Jazz
Chishlm in those first three games with the Yankees. If
you would have done it for any other team, including
the Dodgers, I think it would be kind of a
nice story. But watch I think Jazz Chisholm's last you
know whatever twelve at bats is going to go down
in history, like Yankee fans everywhere are going to remember
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what Jazz Chisholm did in late July of this year.
It's when you do things on that team, it hits different.
I think that's what a good barometer is. As far
as why the Yankees are more relevant.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
There is something interesting though about They've had so many
guys that have had these unbelievable first runs. We mentioned
We talked about Gary Sanchez back when he was a rookie,
when he got called up and we had that discussion.
What was it was something like twenty six home runs
and fifty three through fifty three games like that thing. Yes,
and yeah it turns out not so much. What was
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the guy's name?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
This is?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
This is a Dan Byer is probably the only one
who can get this one, but maybe you can't do Jason?
Was it Moss?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Didn't they have a guy Kevin?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Didn't he get wasn't Wasn't he on a call up?
Something unbelievable?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah? Yeah, I think he either got called up or
maybe was up in August, hit like eighteen home runs
in his first ten games or something stupid.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Something crazy.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
If only is would it continued, that upper deck rookie
card would have been worth something these days.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
No doubt. I think I still have some.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Moss was in that group of where you thought like
you were going to be a millionaire because of the
rookie cards he pulled from upper deck for sure. Like
Eric Anthony of the Astros, he was part of that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I thought Greg Jefferies, right, wasn't Greig Jefferies? Yeah? Greg
Jefferies was the ultimate like rookie cards sort of dude,
and I have tons of them, and he was a
nice met but he wasn't what he was perceived to be.
And because he was in the era of the rookie
rated cards. We think he's way better. Okay, Plus we
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got Caleb Williams is not going to play in the
Hall of Fame game. We talked about this going back
to two days ago we were in Chicago on how
he said he wanted to play, but we all kind
of knew he wasn't going to. Feels like he's playing
to all of our heartstrings, Caleb saying all the right things.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
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Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, what'd you love for the weekend? What'd you ape
in the weekend?
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You want to start with prefet Is that what I heard?
Let's start with Chris Huh Yeah, I'll start with Chris Prophet.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Oh wow, this is a rare one. Yeah. My father
and I have been with the Olympics. He got me
into Olympics. He's been to every one of them since
Munich except for Moscow. I've been to Atlanta and Sydney.
I love the Olympics. I the ceremony to start was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
The idea of putting everything on the Sene River was
very inspired. I love the performance of Selene Dion and
I just I love the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I don't know what else to say.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
It is a great thing if you are just exploring
new sports. It's It's not something where I feel like
every sport is something you really get into over and
over for a long period of time. But it as
someone I can tell you when I was in Sydney,
it was perfect. You'd go there, watch US sport for
two hours, go watch something else, and it's great. It's
it's great to meet all these other people from all
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these other countries. I had an old German Man explain
handball to me very passionately. And seeing the scenes out
of Paris have been fantastic so far. I know it's
a slow start for the Americans in the metal count
but it's great. I love the Olympics, especially the Celine
Dion performance, given that she's been battling this like rare
degenerative disease and she comes out as a surprise at
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the end, singing passionately.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
It was it was beautiful. It was absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Uh okay, didn't know that was That was where you're
gonna love. For the weekend, let's go to Dan Byer Dan.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I know this may be very very general, but I
love that it just wasn't as hot in southern California
as it has been. Yes, like it it, I dug
And I know that you've relocated, but you were out
here a little while.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I know when it's really hot and one spech where
you live and get out in the sun.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yes, and it was it has been. But this past
weekend it just dropped like ten degrees and it was.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
It was great.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I think that wherever you live, like, there's just you
can you can tolerate with whatever, But even just a
little bit helps. Guess what, the humidity's down, A little
bit down twenty percent makes a lot of difference, right
that ninety percent humidity, one hundred percent humidity is tough stuff.
Seventy to eighty percent. All right, we'll deal with it
when it would just drop ten percent on you, because
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we weally don't have to deal with humidity. Ninety ninety
five a lot better than one oh five. And I
know Phoenix and other places are rolling their eyes, but yeah,
I was just glad to cool down a little bit,
so able to have a nice, enjoyable day outside where.
Speaker 8 (14:45):
You weren't completely scorched. Yeah, it was real good.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
So just a little bit of a temperature change was
a welcome relief for us in southern California.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Chase Do.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
The reason why I wanted Chris Purfect to go first
is I wanted the listeners to hear his passion about
the Olympics. And I think I think Profat's like his
opinion about the Olympics is a popular opinion. I think
a lot of people like the Olympics. So what I
loved about my weekend was not watching the Olympics. I
love not I love not having to follow all this
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stuff along. I had to pay attention to the Team
USA game because they're all NBA players, and if you
go on ESPN dot com, that's basically I take their
lead that you have to cover that team because we
talk about these names year round. But I spent most
of my TV viewing Bandwidth starting Showgun, a series flu
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so good. It is amazing. I recommend it for anybody.
I think historically it's gotten me into googling a lot
of this stuff about Portugal and Japan and all this stuff,
and it's so well executed. I very much recommend Showguns.
So if you too are in that thing where you're
trying to decide between Olympics or something else. If you
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do something else, showgun is a great option.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Okay, I'll tell what I loved about the weekend was
my nephew, Sawyer. It was in town and he's a
gigantic football fan. And Friday night we went to the
like I said, the Arena Football League semi finals with
a blizzard. Got to win. So Saturday, I was like,
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are you gonna go down and see the Packer practice?
And we got there early enough. You know, they practice
at ten thirty and the players start to ride the
bikes at like nine. And look, it's like I said
to start, I know, Jordan Love only rides a bike,
like you know, one day in camp and the rest
A lot of times it's some no name guys. But
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I mean, is there anything more American apple pie in
the NFL where so many things have termed corporate? You know,
And I mean training camps now are so different than
when we start in this business, Dan and Jason. Now
you go back twenty years ago, and remember Dan Snyder
was the first one to charge people for training camps.
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But you know, so oftentimes they were at these small
colleges in the middle of nowhere, you know, and was
a Corey Stringer who died from the two days and
the heat. He had the heat stroke. So a lot
of things have changed, but this one is just like,
it's the same as it's been. It's the same as
I had seen on TV for years, where you know,
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kid gives a guy a bike and then he runs
alongside the bike as the player pedals up and then
they all then they all park the bikes and wait
for the guy. Same guy rides the same bike home.
It's so cool. It just it doesn't take a lot
to extend a little bit of love to community and
connect with the community, and the Packers players just nail
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it with this trae. All right, let's hit the whata
we hated from the weekend? What'd you hate? Prefet o Jake?
Speaker 5 (18:07):
So I might be double dipping into a topic we
hit on the podcast, but going back.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You don't have to apologize, guys before every of you
hate it, you say I hate it.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I genuinely hate the response to that same opening ceremony
from a certain subset of people who tried to call
this satanic. First people misunderstood what was supposed to be.
They call it like a mockery. The Last Supper. It spoiler,
it's not. It's about the Greek god Dionysis. Some painting
over there and Dionysis, the Greek god of debauchery and
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drinking of a very famous French painting. And then we
had a heavy metal band, much like the music you're
hearing here, and it's not a satanic metal band. I
know the band. It's go Jira. They sing about saving
the whales. They are the most hippie metal band you
can find. But they play one show there like talking
about the history of the French Revolution in a reenact
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with the history of the French Revolution and the decapitation
of the of the royalty over there. And suddenly everyone
is calling the Olympics satanic and demanding that you boycott
the Olympics because it's part of some sort of global
satanic conspiracy. I'm sorry. I think we've lost the plot
we were supposed to have. This sheared reality dumb. We
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are dumb, but you're dumb. It feels like not enough
people call these people dumb. It's like that we give
too much airtime to these people for being dumb and
that we have to amuse them.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And I'm just I'm done. Amusing them.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
At this point, I'm beyond done amusing them, like this
is this is ridiculous. You are grasping at so many straws.
You sound like Alex Jones, like stop stop, stop stop.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I agree, I totally agree on this.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Well, don I well done?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
My next yeah, I'm oh, yes, sorry. I know that
Jason is probably gonna piggyback on this. I don't want
to steal his do you know, let's piggyback's okay? Because
he tweeted something I hated that. I watched a four
hour documentary about Pete Rose and still couldn't find a
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reason to really like or embrace him, Like at every
turn he ruins the ending and in any situation where
you're just trying to get some goodwill or something, it
just it was a great documentary done on HBO. It
was really really good. Each episode well done, focusing on
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different parts of his life. But there was at no
point where I just felt like, yeah, just put him
in the Hall of Fame, like it'll be a feel
good moment every single time. And here's the thing, it
was nobody else's fault. He is the one that ruined it.
Every single turn he ruins it, and that's what I
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hated about it. I loved the documentary even though I
hated the outcome of watching it. I thought it was
just so well done, and maybe because of what Pete
offered in those interviews, but my goodness, yeah, I hated
that I couldn't get a reason to be sentimental and
want Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Were you listening when when Jason and I were discussing
this like an hour before the show.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
No, I saw Jason's tweet about it, and I was
about I was through three episodes and I watched the
final one last night.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
It's crazy, though, we both came to the exact same conclusion.
Is that fair, Jason?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Well, I know I did. I watched it.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, we both came the exact same conclusion.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I'm on the same conclusion too. Yeah, it's I think
it's just amazing. Like I thought, I knew a lot
about Pete Rose on a lot about his story, and
you know, a host that used to work here had
tweeted out, that's enough, all let the guy in. He's
one of the greatest players that have ever played the game,
and it's like this has never been about what he
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did on the field. No one's going to argue his
stats and what he put on the field, and he
was a winner. We argue the fact that he gambled
on baseball. And by the way, him saying, I only
bet on the Reds, that's all that's been proven. And
who's going to believe a word this guy says? The
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one major takeaway, well there's two. He's completely unredeemable as
a human. He's so unlikable. And then you walk away thinking,
why would we believe that he just bet on the Reds.
He claims that that's not a bad thing. Why should
we even believe that? I mean, well, the.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Other part too it here's what people don't understand. Okay,
if you only bet on the Reds and you only
do it seventy five times or one hundred times whatever,
So the people who take your bets when you're not
calling in, they know to bet against the Reds, right sure?
And oh yeah, by the way, you know you're gonna
load up and do everything you can because at that
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time he was a player manager. People forgette Peter Rows
when he first got caught betting on baseball, got caught
was he was a player manager. So You're gonna do
everything in your power, screw up your rotation, your bullpen, whatever,
just to win that game. And you wouldn't do that
normal on sixt two game season. Some games you just
go like, we ain't got it, let's just make it
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a bullpen game. Let's keep it, you know, or or
let's just throw out a position player out there, you know,
to keep the bullpen fresh or whatever. So one, it
makes it much easier to bet against them two and
then the other part too, it is he's never admitted
to doing He's never been actually truly honest, I've never
been truly on it.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I don't think that he's been contrite at any ever ever.
And like if you were to say thirty year band,
like if that was the band handed down by Bart Giamatti,
I think we would be like, whoa that it's a
lot like that is that is quite a bit.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
And now we're past that point.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
And while there may be people that feel that he
should be in, Pete Rose has done nothing except feel
that he was wronged by this and that's I mean,
that's pretty obvious throughout the whole thing. And I think
that's maybe one of Jason's point as well, but like
I I think that the the punishment is probably pretty sufficient.
And to those who are saying like he's served his time,
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they actually may be right, but he has done nothing
to take one step towards admitting his wrong things aside
from saying sorry. And now what he's doing is he
said that is I'm sorry. I bet on baseball autographs
are the most popular ones, so he continues to sign
those like it's it's just like, man, you know, like,
how am I supposed to help you if you can't
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help yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
He's just an unlikable character.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
And I think the thing I took away to is
just how tired I am of keeping to hearing about
this thing about Pete Rose. It feels like it's been
my entire life.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you, guys, I think this
was the last shot I really did. I really, I
really think, because because so many times there had been
that we should do it, and then every time you
get close, Pete does something, you know, doing the autographs
across the street from the Hall of Fame whatever. He's
never been honest, He's always been been kind of creepy
and weird with some of the stuff. Remember he had
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the deal with the underage girl that was a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
By the way, they did not shy away from in
the documentary, which I was glad. I wondered if it
was just going to be a baseball one, but they
they addressed that head on, and even some of his
comments about that were just I don't even know what
you could say.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Honestly, it was actually only six she was sixteen, Yeah,
which I guess in Kentucky or Cincinnati, the same thing
that the age of sixteen not eighteen over there.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah, still not helping.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
And he was in his thirties.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
And then he said then he switched to like, well,
I thought I only diated eighteen year olds, and then
he said, I'm sure there's twenty eight and thirty year
olds here who are didating eighteen year olds. And then
just let the camera sit and it just it's soaked
in of like there probably aren't there. There probably aren't,
but for some reason in his world, yes, he was
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able to normalize it and justify it.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So so here here's why I said, Like, the thing
about documentaries are they're so powerful, so powerful that people
they won't read. No one reads the Dowd Report. And
again the Peter Rose thing is actually near and dear
to me because my first radio partner, guy I really
look up to. His name's Chuck Wilson, and Chuck taught
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me about the business. And Chuck was the officionado at
ESPN Radio on the Dowd Report, and he's like, it's
so much more damning than anybody could ever know. And
had he had something called the Chuck Wagging he brought
in with just files and files and files for every show.
Guy was unbelievably prepared, but the Dowd Report was ridiculous. Anyway,
nobody's gonna review that, nobody's gonna look at that. What
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this was the This will live in eternity as the defining.
He had his chance to show any sort of what
was the word, do you say, a contrition? Any sort
of condition. There was none. Any sort of falling, you know,
falling before the court and just saying I'm a change man. None. None,
(27:19):
just complete defiance and inability to read the room, to
understand baseball, how he's viewed anything. Here's a good I
think this was the last one because they was going
to do another ped Rose documentary. There's not gonna be
any more stories about him. He's getting close to dying,
like at some point, getting closer and closer to getting
old senior citizen now, Like I think this is it.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Another commentary on him as a person is that Joe
Morgan was the person that went back to back to
him for him the most with current Hall of Famers,
with the museum, with Major League Baseball, Joe Morgan was
his biggest advocate when he was living. Former teammate Joe
Morgan dies, Joe Morgan's wife never hears from Pete. Then
(28:05):
they do a ceremony at at a Reds game, and
a bunch of the old Reds teammates of Joe's Morgan's
is there. Pete shows up in the like through the
back door and goes into another suite and watches the game.
Just just a complete jerk as a person.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yep, uh, Jay Stu, don't you have do you have
the what you hate?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah? That entire last five minutes.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, we piggybacked to remember because I didn't want to
scale his I ended up kind of going first.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I just I despise this conversation by Jason Tatum. I
despise it. I think we show. Uh, we show why
athletes are so selfish and entitled. We show why athletes
are so selfish and entitled. The only thing that matters
(28:58):
is the outcome and final score of a team sport.
It's the only thing that matters. Nothing else matters. And
if you're a fourteen point favorite, you win by twenty
six points. And a guy has a near flawless game,
one of the all time greats in the history of
the sport has a near flawless game. Why are we
talking about anything else but because and and honestly, I
(29:22):
fault people like ESPN for hiring Kendrick Perkins who has
no awareness of this, and US at Fox for like
we make it out like Jason Tatum was somehow defamed.
This is the problem with the NBA. This is why
nobody likes you, hey, as a league. This league is
so talented and there's so many good people in it.
(29:46):
But what happens is this is the perception of how
all NBA players are that they just I got it.
It's gotta be me, Like, no, it's not team won
by twenty six that's all the matters, doesn't matter, It
really doesn't matter. Like you've already got your money, you
get to get a gold medal. This is why the
team is selected as it is. It's a very tricky one.
(30:10):
And I love the fact that, you know, I saw
tweets in the first half of Steve Curry's not doing
anything and he doesn't like that's not true. He adjusted
and he used rotations, he used substitutions and groups that worked.
Lebron James wasn't great. Steph Curry he took out really
really early along with Joel Embiid. Steph Curry wasn't super
(30:31):
effective at all. And when they had a lineup of
you know, when they had Derek White in there, he
was awesome. He's really good. And you get people who
don't know anything about actual sports, who cover sports, who
exposed themselves as such, well, can you name me something
who is There was a woman who works at CBS
(30:51):
Sports who's like, can you tell me something that Derek
White does better? Doesn't matter. I mean, I could tell
you he's a better defense player, that he moves the ball,
he doesn't need to dripple the ball every time he
gets it, But it doesn't matter. You know what matters
is the team plays better with him in period, stop
(31:12):
and you know, if if Jason Tatum was to the
point where he was ahead of Kevin Durant and Anthony
Edwards and Lebron James based upon practice and their scrimmages,
then he would have played more. So. I don't know
what to tell you, but the fact that we're talking
about a guy who didn't play when the team looks
(31:33):
great wins by twenty six had to be challenged early
on the first half. In the first quarter, we've just
lost our way as people. We have created the most
selfish and entitled athletes. And the reason they're selfish and
they're entitled is people like Kendrick Perkins, who instead of going, hey,
I don't care what social media says, they won by
(31:55):
twenty six. Kevin Durant was awesome. That's what we talked about.
He gives into talking about it and we all feel
compelled to.
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say look good against South Sudan. They changed up to the lineup.
They did seemed that, you know, I don't care what
Steve Kerr says about Jason Tatum starting. I can't imagine
that was originally a plan. I can't. I can be wrong,
(33:13):
but to go from not playing to starting. That seems
a lot. Did I think he play, yes, I think
that was all the complaining, like fine, will start him.
He didn't play particularly well. You know, there's a world
there where people start to understand what makes you a
great NBA player, does not necessarily make do a great
international player just doesn't, and how you fit with the group.
(33:35):
But the matchups had them playing smaller for a good
portion of time, and then when South Sudan went small,
they threw the ball inside to Bam and to Anthony Davis,
and they for the most part kept kept South Sudan out.
You know, twenty points away, they didn't cover. I told
everybody knew, like I don't bet, but that's spread. Twenty
(33:57):
nine seemed too high. Here was Steve Kerr's explanation for
Embiid's oh sorry. Steve Kerr said that he didn't play
against South Sudan because the USA won a better match
up with their team speed and Kerr is gonna start
Lebron Steph Curry, Devin Booker, Drew Holiday and Embiid against
Puerto Rico. I remember Jason Tatum after yesterday's game said, hey,
(34:22):
this has definitely been a humbling experience, right. He said
that not about playing and scoring four points against South Sudan,
but not playing at all against Serbia. He said, quote,
win a championship, new contract cover of two K, and
then you sit the whole game cover of sports showy straits.
So it is definitely humbling. I'm just gonna tell you
right now, like hawl, it reads to me. I'm gonna
(34:42):
sit here as a coach and I'll tell you Jason
Tatum seems like a colossal pain in the ass when
Jalen Brown wasn't named to the team as a replacement,
all he said is Jalen Brown's teammate, and Jalen Brown
played great in the NBA finals. Was like, yeah, a
lot of guys want to get in. And now instead
of saying, hey, I don't care if I play a
(35:04):
minute before I play the whole game, I just want
to win, He's like, yeah, you know, I got all
this stuff was humbling. It's not humbling. You have not
been humbled, because then you read off some sort of
resume like any of us give a crap, right, tell
me if this sounds humbled to you. Win a championship,
a new cover of a new contract cover of two
(35:26):
K NBA two K cover of Sports Illustrated. It was
definitely a humbling experience. That's not humbling. You have not
been humbled, not at all. And oh yeah, by the way,
Jason Tatum, NBA Finals, how'd that work out for you? You know,
(35:51):
twenty one a game was fine, seven rebounds a game
was fine, but didn't shoot a great percentage, didn't play great?
And oh yeah, by the way, this is not the NBA, right,
not the NBA. John Morant would be a terrible, terrible
pick to beyond USA Basketball. Chamran is a dynamic player
(36:14):
when healthy, dynamic. So I just I do think that
this is part of Kerr's plan, right, is completely rotate
based upon team. Sometimes you don't play guys. The issue
is which guys get it, which guys don't, And this
(36:36):
is why some guys weren't selected. I mean, look, Steph
Curry's not played particularly well. He's not playing a ton
and the logic behind it is this is a different game.
It's way more physical, hard for him to get a
shot off and much harder for him to guard. Yes,
Jason Stewart, Yes.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Hey Doug, I think it's appropriate that we roll this in.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Here's the question that needs an answer, and the answer
is if only there was someone with the authority and
the wisdom to give us that answer.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Hold on, let's ask the coach.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Hey, Doug, yep, So don't you think that it.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Was how that that's not how questions asked? You say?
Don't you think you're leading me? What's the question?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh? Okay, well let me hold on? Hold on? What
should I say?
Speaker 6 (37:29):
How?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Hold on? How did this get to the point where
Steve kerr Is says after game one that he felt
like an idiot for not playing Jason Tatum, like, why
hasn't all of this been communicated to each player? It
was Tatum, you're not going to play game one and
you're not going to play game two.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
It was go back to go back to the quote
game one he said, we talked about this with Jason,
that that we that this this might happen. He absolutely did.
I'm not a surprise Jason Tedmone's right, is Joel embiid
last night?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Then? Why did you feel like an idiot?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Play the whole Can we play the whole cut? Play
the whole cut? Because I think what he's saying is like, hey,
you feel like an idiot not playing the guy, but
you had a plan and the playing clearly worked. You know,
because if you don't know anything about actual working forty minutes,
working in everybody the game plan, you're like, hey, we're
(38:25):
not going to play Jason tam I'd be like, I
take a listen, because out of context, it sounds like
he's questioned himself. Here's the entire cut.
Speaker 9 (38:35):
It's tough, but Jason handled it really well. I talked
to him today before the game that they may play
out this way just with Kevin coming back and the
lineups that I wanted to get to. But that'll change.
You know, Jason's going to play. Every game is going
to be different based on matchups. He's a total pro. He's,
you know, first team All NBA three years in a row.
(38:57):
I felt like an idiot not playing him. But in
a forty minute game, you can't play more than ten,
you really can't. And you know, so I just I
think he's he's an amazing guy, great player and handled
it beautifully, and you know he'll be back out their
next game.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, so he again, I think you're taking that as
the he felt like an idiot, like admitting mistake, whereas
I think what he meant is, you know, he's first
team All NBA three years row. I'm not going to
play him. But so you feel like an idiot. But
the truth is like, Okay, this is the plan we had.
It ended up working, and again because Kevin Durant was
(39:35):
played the perfect game in the first half and like,
I'm not going to I'm going to go back to
Kevin Durant early in the second half, which they.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Did well that You're right, The comment in full context
completely explains it. It's just that idiot one I think
has gotten them in trouble ever since he said it,
and people, obviously if there haven't been listening to the
full quote in context or what, because they took that
and ran with it, like Steven they did like twenty
straight minutes of ranting on Wait wait about Steven.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
He took some ount of context and used it. That's
that's stunning. I thought he's I thought he was a
journalist right when he told he told Dan Lebottard he's
a journalist. Yes, wow, I just look, I'm just trying
to express to you. We did this coaching is hard.
(40:22):
It's it's not easy, and a good portion of coaching
in the NBA is massaging egos and figuring out a
way to make it work. And I mean it's pretty
obvious that he's committed to this. I'm gonna sit a
guy or two a game so I don't have to
play twelve. If you play twelve, you know everybody's unhappy.
It's just not enough minutes, Just not enough minutes. Stunt
(40:44):
gott Leap Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I feel
bad for Gordon Hayward, but I will point out like
he kind of raised his think over not playing for
the Thunder in the playoffs. Now he retires, like kind
of think the Thunder knew he was done. It's pretty obvious.
Are any of you guys gonna watch the Hall of
Fame game tonight?
Speaker 8 (41:03):
Yeah, I'll watch a little of it for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Can't help yourself.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
I just like seeing the graphics, like seeing the uniforms.
Football is is back everything.
Speaker 8 (41:13):
But the football yeah, no, the product is Yeah, it's
just no.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I think it's a good I live by a sports calendar, guys,
and I think we all do, and this is a
this is It's not only August first, where we change
the calendar on our wall.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
It's already could you believe that?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
That's amazing?
Speaker 4 (41:32):
But the Hall of Fame game is is a signal
that fall is is basically here?
Speaker 7 (41:38):
Dan, is is it not? The starting prep of beginning
of kolonoscopy?
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Is?
Speaker 8 (41:42):
What I would say is? Uh is the is Hall
of Fame game?
Speaker 1 (41:46):
I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Oh, we were just bringing in something that Dan brought
up last week about a cool well. I had a
kolonoscopy last week. Yeah, no, that's that's that's all right, fine,
I have no problem. Forty five and fifty should get
a colonoscopy.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
You ever serve time dot Fletch? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
I only knew Fletch because when I lived in Santa Monica,
I heard that some of the scenes were filed and
filmed in the alleyways around there.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
It's back when Chevy Chase was funny. He hasn't been funny.
I think since Fletch that was the last time he was.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Fun maybe his funniest because there's Caddyshack, Vacation, and Fletch.
Those are the big three, and I would argue that
he was funniest on Fletch. It was the same scene
where he's talking to the doctor and he's trying to
feel him out about one of his patients, and he's like,
it's you know, it's it's really sad about old Ben,
and the doctor's like, ah, he's dying for years. Yeah,
(42:48):
but to go so suddenly like that you're talking to me.
It was intensive care for over a year. Yeah, but
at the very end, the very end when he died
was very sudden.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Where on the metal stand would Fletch b of those
three the gold do you think?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yes, I'm kind of a vacation guy. Overall, the movie
Vacation makes me laugh, maybe.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
More than more than Christmas Vacation.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
No, that's way to We've already had this discussion. Christmas
Vacation is a tear down from vacation, I think, and
then the other vacations are just awful.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
See, I look at it this way, Okay. I look
at Christmas Vacation being like the Austin Powers too, really okay,
because Austin Powers was incredibly funny if you were into
Bond movies, right, So much of it was a spoof
on these Bond movies and how cheesy they are. And
(43:45):
how over the top they are and whatever. It's very
very funny if you're if you were into Bond guys
at all. This is a spoof on all the Bond stuff.
And had Mike Myers Austin Powers too. Now all of
a sudden they had to find something funny when that
whole joke was kind of overplayed in Austin Powers one.
And I thought Austin Powers two was really really funny.
(44:06):
Vacation was the classic movie about the family vacation, right.
It was like, ah, everybody's done the family vacation, the
family road trip. We're going out to California. We're gonna
go to Wally World, right, come hell or high water.
And that's the kind of the old school eighties vacation.
Whereas Christmas Vacation, I thought, you know, you eliminated that
(44:28):
they'd actually go anywhere, but you'd also had the uniqueness
of family coming over the house, the Christmas bonus and
all that other stuff, and you know, the family members
you can't wait to have leave. And this ridiculous thing
we do where when any family member is welcome, no
matter how tough they are, to just have around. But
(44:49):
that's what we do as people. I disagree with you.
I think Christmas Vacation is funnier than vacation, even though
vacation probably in terms of storyline and just the ability
to capture the you know, some hilarious things from this
bizarre vacation made it unique. I think Christmas Vacation is
(45:10):
better than vacation.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Okay, so then you need to we need to correct
what you said three minutes ago, because if you're saying
Fletch was the last time he was funny, I think
Christmas Vacation was made in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 7 (45:23):
I think that was the last post Fletch for regular
vacation is pre Fletch.
Speaker 8 (45:28):
I believe.
Speaker 7 (45:30):
I thought he was great, like nothing but trouble like
he made some other decent films.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
What else do you make those decent spies like us?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
That was like early in eighties, wasn't it. Yeah, that
was in the Fletch range eighties.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, it was all the same same area. So Mary,
how do we get to this discussion what we're talking about? Oh,
we're talking about sports.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
Calend Sam had a horrible joke about Oh yeah, I
didn't set up all but we should go to break here.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, good, good, idea.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
We'll clean it up and edit as what we'll do. Dan,
I do agree with you, and it will be on
wherever I am today. And it's just it is good.
It does feel cause I think most people have done
the summer thing. We're like, yeah, I'm good with summer.
I really love Faaldy come around because falls it's the best.
Kids are back in school. Plus even for kids being
back in school, you got football games on Friday nights
(46:16):
or Thursday nights or Saturdays whatever. Right, new classes, new schools,
it's still fresh. It's not once you get to winter,
it's not to drudgery, and then sports it becomes peak.
I mean, think about this August we still have the
end Olympic Games, the kickoff of a football season, college football,
which has a true playoff, and of course you'll have basketball,
(46:37):
and then you get you know, October baseball is awesome.
So I'm with you on the sports calendar. I understand it.
It's a weird thing that we all will look eluit
and then go like I didn't know anybody playing. I
will feel if I watch in the second half, I'll
feel exactly like I feel watching the Grammys. You guys, ever,
watched the Grammys, and you're like, I've never heard of
any of these people.
Speaker 8 (46:59):
Yes, I know who they are, never heard this album?
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, Like I know, I'm starting to get to the
lame age. Like I'm pretty cool, Like I got teenage kids,
so I I you know, I went to Playboy Cardi
concerts this summer, like I I still take my daughters
to cool country concerts, right, Like I still have, by
at least by proxy, a little bit of swag to me.
But when I watched the Grammys, I feel like the
biggest dork ever because I don't know anybody. And then
(47:22):
it's the same thing with the preseason football, like I'm like,
ooh ooh wait, he played the Big twelve. Right, That's
about all I know.
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we're getting ready to watch Team USA rematch against South Sudan,
a team they survived in a friendly. They are a
twenty nine point favorite, and Steve Kerr has done exactly
(00:51):
what I hoped he would not do, but he's doing
it and she is starting line up there. Jay su
starting lineup guys includes not only Anthony Davis at the
center position as Joel Andmbie has continued to struggle, but
it also includes Jason Tatum, who famously did not play
(01:14):
d NP DNPCD in his first game, and look again,
there is there are plenty of reasonable ways to look
at this thing, but starting him from not playing him
And let me reiterate something that when awful announcing picks
(01:36):
up our sound. When other sites pick up our sounds,
sometimes they miss on something. Remember what I'm speaking from
his actual experience. I understand that the players are not
nearly to the level of the US men's national team.
I'm fully aware of that. What I'm trying to point out, though,
is that I have a working knowledge and feeling about
(01:58):
coaching teams where you have twelve viable players on some level,
guys that want and expect to play, and really having
only the ability to play ten And you kind of
got to break things down. And I get he was
first team All NBA three last three years, but whatever
their evaluation was led them to put him eleventh on
(02:19):
the depth chart last game. So even though the matchups changed,
and that's fair to go from not playing the starting
outside from the fact that you're going to get to rest.
You know, if look, Lebron doesn't want to play because
he wants to rest, but I don't see that happening.
We just get we're getting super silly with it. We're
getting to the point where it feels like that old
adage of if the second you start listening to fans,
(02:43):
next thing, you know, you'll become one of them, right,
And I just I can only watch this thing and think,
that's what's happening here is we are giving in to pressure,
and that's you can't do that when you're the coach
of a team as important as as the US men's
national team. Just can't. The trade deadline has come and gone.
(03:12):
I don't know, I'm just fired up at at Dan
Byer's last update. Right, if you listen, Dan Buyer's update
was Jackson Holliday, who just got called up. And remember
he's not on a Friend of the program. He's a
personal friend of mine. I guess like I'm more friends
with his dad, right, But Jackson is a great, great
(03:34):
I don't want to say kid, because he's married and
he's an adult, but he's an awesome dude. And I'm
just incredibly happy for him because it was pretty miserable
last time around, right, I mean, what was he It
was like two for thirty or something. I was there
for his last game, which he did have one hidden,
(03:55):
but he was. His numbers were were just bad. I
mean imagine that, right, You don't you don't do anything
your first time around, nothing, your first time around up
in the majors. You go back, you crush in the
minors for second straight year. There's only second year in
minor league baseball, and you know they time it out.
(04:17):
They wait, they wait till after the trade deadline. People
obviously wanted you. You get called up and now you
hit a Grand Slam home run. That's not bad. I
can't imagine what that feels like. You know, that's the
how you like me now? And that was basic. But anyway,
we'll keep an eye on this South sud An game.
(04:40):
We mentioned to you the trade deadline stuff, which I
don't want to say it was. It was boring because
that's it. Wasn't that your take, Jasetew is like it
just it's it's baseball's chance to really make noise, make
hay and they kind of butchered because all you hear
is these these relievers and you haven't heard of The
(05:01):
one point though, is that isn't that how you win
postseason baseball? Like had the Dodgers done that last year?
Win your Dodgers have won the World Series.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh, I don't know about that, but I will say this,
there are there's a finite number of days on the
calendar for baseball to be relevant, and yesterday was one
of them. And I think like eighty percent of the
players were relievers that nobody's heard of. There's no fix,
there's no one to blame. It's just that MLB always
(05:29):
tends to be uninteresting at times when they should be
making news. So that's just kind of my lamenting.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I think it's a great point. It's kind of like
the Mike Trout thing all over again, and not that
obviously Mike trouton only wasn't traded yesterday, but apparently had
a setback. My point about it being a Mike Trout
thing is that for years we've heard, well, Mike Trout.
They're not promoting Mike Trout. You know, Baseball doesn't, the
Angels don't because they're not. My point, He's like, what
(06:00):
do you want him to do? You know, I'm I'm
not exactly sure what you want him to do other than,
you know, pants somebody as he's as he's running around
the basis, it's like the only thing I can think of,
because you can't make a sport that's kind of uninteresting interesting.
It's to the baseball dork, yesterday's yesterday's run on relievers
(06:25):
is incredibly important because well, that's what the sport has become,
especially in the postseason. But to anybody else's boring his
sin yet, that's how you build a championship team is
you don't do it with adding a big bopper late
in the year. You do it by adding arms. Is
there any bitterness over something the Dodgers didn't didn't do, Jason,
(06:46):
that's led you to feel that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Way, Yeah, I mean the Dodgers. According to everybody who
reviewed the Dodgers moves at the deadline, the Dodgers got
away with murder. They didn't give up any prospects, and
they got like four, like a couple of utility guys,
a reliever and a starter. But none of them really
(07:08):
moved the needle. You know, none of them are going
to get anybody's interest outside of Dodger fans.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, I get it. But what we'll get interest is
if the Dodgers win the.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
World Series, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I mean, that'll get a substantial amount of interest. And
I think that's important not just to the Dodgers, but
also to the league itself, Like the league needs the Dodgers,
the league, the league needs the Yankees to go deep
into the playoffs and best case scenario is them to
play in the World Series.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Who do you think is a bigger, bigger need for
baseball Yankees or Dodgers Yankees. Yeah, that's what I thought too,
And I thought maybe it was with Showhy it could
change a little bit, but I just kind of think
that the Yankees are just on that even still just
(07:55):
that different level.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yep, I agree. I don't think it's I don't think
it's actually close. Again when you get Jason agreeing with
you Dodger fans like, I mean, plus we're in the media,
but we get it. But yeah, it's it's not close.
I mean some of it is, you know, historical success
with all the World Series. So they're they're frankly very
much like they're more successful version of the Cowboys. And
(08:19):
that's because you know, when so many people were now adults,
were kids, the Yankees were winning all those World Series
with Derek Cheeter and Bernie Williams, et cetera, et cetera.
So I think that's what it's about. They're they're both
iconic franchises. It's just the Yankee thing is different. It's
just it's just different, the level of importance of everything,
and there's just a greater level of passion in the
(08:40):
over the overall sports fan. It doesn't mean, you know,
Dodger fans will sit there go, hey, we draw four
million people like that's great, okay, but the Yankees do too,
and just their TV numbers far exceeded because people that
don't grow up in UH and around La aren't aren't
aren't Dodger fans, whereas there are game fans everywhere. And
(09:01):
I think most of it is because they won when
people were younger, and people become fans of teams that win.
It's really it really is that simple. I mean, that's
Lebron and that's how Lebron James clearly became a Yankee fan, right,
He's a front runner, you know. And I'm and and
as much as that sounds like you're being I'm being
critical of Lebron James. The reality is, when you're a kid,
(09:22):
you're growing up in Ohio, a lot of people aren't
baseball fans. You are a baseball fan. You're going to
be fans with whatever team you think is the best.
And Derek Jeter frankly made the Yankee made made the
Yankees cool for a long time. So I don't know
if that answers your question.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I think a good barometer is a you know, Jazz
Chishlm in those first three games with the Yankees. If
you would have done it for any other team, including
the Dodgers, I think it would be kind of a
nice story. But watch I think Jazz Chisholm's last you
know whatever twelve at bats is going to go down
in history, like Yankee fans everywhere are going to remember
(09:56):
what Jazz Chisholm did in late July of this year.
It's when you do things on that team, it hits different.
I think that's what a good barometer is. As far
as why the Yankees are more relevant.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
There is something interesting though about They've had so many
guys that have had these unbelievable first runs. We mentioned
We talked about Gary Sanchez back when he was a rookie,
when he got called up and we had that discussion.
What was it was something like twenty six home runs
and fifty three through fifty three games like that thing. Yes,
and yeah it turns out not so much. What was
(10:31):
the guy's name?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
This is?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
This is a Dan Byer is probably the only one
who can get this one, but maybe you can't do Jason?
Was it Moss?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Didn't they have a guy Kevin?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Didn't he get wasn't Wasn't he on a call up?
Something unbelievable?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah? Yeah, I think he either got called up or
maybe was up in August, hit like eighteen home runs
in his first ten games or something stupid.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Something crazy.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
If only is would it continued, that upper deck rookie
card would have been worth something these days.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
No doubt. I think I still have some.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Moss was in that group of where you thought like
you were going to be a millionaire because of the
rookie cards he pulled from upper deck for sure. Like
Eric Anthony of the Astros, he was part of that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I thought Greg Jefferies, right, wasn't Greig Jefferies? Yeah? Greg
Jefferies was the ultimate like rookie cards sort of dude,
and I have tons of them, and he was a
nice met but he wasn't what he was perceived to be.
And because he was in the era of the rookie
rated cards. We think he's way better. Okay, Plus we
(11:43):
got Caleb Williams is not going to play in the
Hall of Fame game. We talked about this going back
to two days ago we were in Chicago on how
he said he wanted to play, but we all kind
of knew he wasn't going to. Feels like he's playing
to all of our heartstrings, Caleb saying all the right things.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
This is the best of the Dune Gottle Show on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, what'd you love for the weekend? What'd you ape
in the weekend?
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
You want to start with prefet Is that what I heard?
Let's start with Chris Huh Yeah, I'll start with Chris Prophet.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Oh wow, this is a rare one. Yeah. My father
and I have been with the Olympics. He got me
into Olympics. He's been to every one of them since
Munich except for Moscow. I've been to Atlanta and Sydney.
I love the Olympics. I the ceremony to start was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
The idea of putting everything on the Sene River was
very inspired. I love the performance of Selene Dion and
I just I love the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I don't know what else to say.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
It is a great thing if you are just exploring
new sports. It's It's not something where I feel like
every sport is something you really get into over and
over for a long period of time. But it as
someone I can tell you when I was in Sydney,
it was perfect. You'd go there, watch US sport for
two hours, go watch something else, and it's great. It's
it's great to meet all these other people from all
(13:05):
these other countries. I had an old German Man explain
handball to me very passionately. And seeing the scenes out
of Paris have been fantastic so far. I know it's
a slow start for the Americans in the metal count
but it's great. I love the Olympics, especially the Celine
Dion performance, given that she's been battling this like rare
degenerative disease and she comes out as a surprise at
(13:29):
the end, singing passionately.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
It was it was beautiful. It was absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Uh okay, didn't know that was That was where you're
gonna love. For the weekend, let's go to Dan Byer Dan.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I know this may be very very general, but I
love that it just wasn't as hot in southern California
as it has been. Yes, like it it, I dug
And I know that you've relocated, but you were out
here a little while.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I know when it's really hot and one spech where
you live and get out in the sun.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yes, and it was it has been. But this past
weekend it just dropped like ten degrees and it was.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
It was great.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I think that wherever you live, like, there's just you
can you can tolerate with whatever, But even just a
little bit helps. Guess what, the humidity's down, A little
bit down twenty percent makes a lot of difference, right
that ninety percent humidity, one hundred percent humidity is tough stuff.
Seventy to eighty percent. All right, we'll deal with it
when it would just drop ten percent on you, because
(14:31):
we weally don't have to deal with humidity. Ninety ninety
five a lot better than one oh five. And I
know Phoenix and other places are rolling their eyes, but yeah,
I was just glad to cool down a little bit,
so able to have a nice, enjoyable day outside where.
Speaker 8 (14:45):
You weren't completely scorched. Yeah, it was real good.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
So just a little bit of a temperature change was
a welcome relief for us in southern California.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Chase Do.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
The reason why I wanted Chris Purfect to go first
is I wanted the listeners to hear his passion about
the Olympics. And I think I think Profat's like his
opinion about the Olympics is a popular opinion. I think
a lot of people like the Olympics. So what I
loved about my weekend was not watching the Olympics. I
love not I love not having to follow all this
(15:18):
stuff along. I had to pay attention to the Team
USA game because they're all NBA players, and if you
go on ESPN dot com, that's basically I take their
lead that you have to cover that team because we
talk about these names year round. But I spent most
of my TV viewing Bandwidth starting Showgun, a series flu
(15:42):
so good. It is amazing. I recommend it for anybody.
I think historically it's gotten me into googling a lot
of this stuff about Portugal and Japan and all this stuff,
and it's so well executed. I very much recommend Showguns.
So if you too are in that thing where you're
trying to decide between Olympics or something else. If you
(16:07):
do something else, showgun is a great option.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Okay, I'll tell what I loved about the weekend was
my nephew, Sawyer. It was in town and he's a
gigantic football fan. And Friday night we went to the
like I said, the Arena Football League semi finals with
a blizzard. Got to win. So Saturday, I was like,
(16:32):
are you gonna go down and see the Packer practice?
And we got there early enough. You know, they practice
at ten thirty and the players start to ride the
bikes at like nine. And look, it's like I said
to start, I know, Jordan Love only rides a bike,
like you know, one day in camp and the rest
A lot of times it's some no name guys. But
(16:54):
I mean, is there anything more American apple pie in
the NFL where so many things have termed corporate? You know,
And I mean training camps now are so different than
when we start in this business, Dan and Jason. Now
you go back twenty years ago, and remember Dan Snyder
was the first one to charge people for training camps.
(17:16):
But you know, so oftentimes they were at these small
colleges in the middle of nowhere, you know, and was
a Corey Stringer who died from the two days and
the heat. He had the heat stroke. So a lot
of things have changed, but this one is just like,
it's the same as it's been. It's the same as
I had seen on TV for years, where you know,
(17:39):
kid gives a guy a bike and then he runs
alongside the bike as the player pedals up and then
they all then they all park the bikes and wait
for the guy. Same guy rides the same bike home.
It's so cool. It just it doesn't take a lot
to extend a little bit of love to community and
connect with the community, and the Packers players just nail
(17:59):
it with this trae. All right, let's hit the whata
we hated from the weekend? What'd you hate? Prefet o Jake?
Speaker 5 (18:07):
So I might be double dipping into a topic we
hit on the podcast, but going back.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You don't have to apologize, guys before every of you
hate it, you say I hate it.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I genuinely hate the response to that same opening ceremony
from a certain subset of people who tried to call
this satanic. First people misunderstood what was supposed to be.
They call it like a mockery. The Last Supper. It spoiler,
it's not. It's about the Greek god Dionysis. Some painting
over there and Dionysis, the Greek god of debauchery and
(18:38):
drinking of a very famous French painting. And then we
had a heavy metal band, much like the music you're
hearing here, and it's not a satanic metal band. I
know the band. It's go Jira. They sing about saving
the whales. They are the most hippie metal band you
can find. But they play one show there like talking
about the history of the French Revolution in a reenact
(18:58):
with the history of the French Revolution and the decapitation
of the of the royalty over there. And suddenly everyone
is calling the Olympics satanic and demanding that you boycott
the Olympics because it's part of some sort of global
satanic conspiracy. I'm sorry. I think we've lost the plot
we were supposed to have. This sheared reality dumb. We
(19:21):
are dumb, but you're dumb. It feels like not enough
people call these people dumb. It's like that we give
too much airtime to these people for being dumb and
that we have to amuse them.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And I'm just I'm done. Amusing them.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
At this point, I'm beyond done amusing them, like this
is this is ridiculous. You are grasping at so many straws.
You sound like Alex Jones, like stop stop, stop stop.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I agree, I totally agree on this.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Well, don I well done?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
My next yeah, I'm oh, yes, sorry. I know that
Jason is probably gonna piggyback on this. I don't want
to steal his do you know, let's piggyback's okay? Because
he tweeted something I hated that. I watched a four
hour documentary about Pete Rose and still couldn't find a
(20:19):
reason to really like or embrace him, Like at every
turn he ruins the ending and in any situation where
you're just trying to get some goodwill or something, it
just it was a great documentary done on HBO. It
was really really good. Each episode well done, focusing on
(20:42):
different parts of his life. But there was at no
point where I just felt like, yeah, just put him
in the Hall of Fame, like it'll be a feel
good moment every single time. And here's the thing, it
was nobody else's fault. He is the one that ruined it.
Every single turn he ruins it, and that's what I
(21:03):
hated about it. I loved the documentary even though I
hated the outcome of watching it. I thought it was
just so well done, and maybe because of what Pete
offered in those interviews, but my goodness, yeah, I hated
that I couldn't get a reason to be sentimental and
want Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Were you listening when when Jason and I were discussing
this like an hour before the show.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
No, I saw Jason's tweet about it, and I was
about I was through three episodes and I watched the
final one last night.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
It's crazy, though, we both came to the exact same conclusion.
Is that fair, Jason?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Well, I know I did. I watched it.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, we both came the exact same conclusion.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I'm on the same conclusion too. Yeah, it's I think
it's just amazing. Like I thought, I knew a lot
about Pete Rose on a lot about his story, and
you know, a host that used to work here had
tweeted out, that's enough, all let the guy in. He's
one of the greatest players that have ever played the game,
and it's like this has never been about what he
(22:05):
did on the field. No one's going to argue his
stats and what he put on the field, and he
was a winner. We argue the fact that he gambled
on baseball. And by the way, him saying, I only
bet on the Reds, that's all that's been proven. And
who's going to believe a word this guy says? The
(22:26):
one major takeaway, well there's two. He's completely unredeemable as
a human. He's so unlikable. And then you walk away thinking,
why would we believe that he just bet on the Reds.
He claims that that's not a bad thing. Why should
we even believe that? I mean, well, the.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Other part too it here's what people don't understand. Okay,
if you only bet on the Reds and you only
do it seventy five times or one hundred times whatever,
So the people who take your bets when you're not
calling in, they know to bet against the Reds, right sure?
And oh yeah, by the way, you know you're gonna
load up and do everything you can because at that
(23:06):
time he was a player manager. People forgette Peter Rows
when he first got caught betting on baseball, got caught
was he was a player manager. So You're gonna do
everything in your power, screw up your rotation, your bullpen, whatever,
just to win that game. And you wouldn't do that
normal on sixt two game season. Some games you just
go like, we ain't got it, let's just make it
(23:27):
a bullpen game. Let's keep it, you know, or or
let's just throw out a position player out there, you know,
to keep the bullpen fresh or whatever. So one, it
makes it much easier to bet against them two and
then the other part too, it is he's never admitted
to doing He's never been actually truly honest, I've never
been truly on it.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I don't think that he's been contrite at any ever ever.
And like if you were to say thirty year band,
like if that was the band handed down by Bart Giamatti,
I think we would be like, whoa that it's a
lot like that is that is quite a bit.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
And now we're past that point.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
And while there may be people that feel that he
should be in, Pete Rose has done nothing except feel
that he was wronged by this and that's I mean,
that's pretty obvious throughout the whole thing. And I think
that's maybe one of Jason's point as well, but like
I I think that the the punishment is probably pretty sufficient.
And to those who are saying like he's served his time,
(24:24):
they actually may be right, but he has done nothing
to take one step towards admitting his wrong things aside
from saying sorry. And now what he's doing is he
said that is I'm sorry. I bet on baseball autographs
are the most popular ones, so he continues to sign
those like it's it's just like, man, you know, like,
how am I supposed to help you if you can't
(24:46):
help yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
He's just an unlikable character.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
And I think the thing I took away to is
just how tired I am of keeping to hearing about
this thing about Pete Rose. It feels like it's been
my entire life.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you, guys, I think this
was the last shot I really did. I really, I
really think, because because so many times there had been
that we should do it, and then every time you
get close, Pete does something, you know, doing the autographs
across the street from the Hall of Fame whatever. He's
never been honest, He's always been been kind of creepy
and weird with some of the stuff. Remember he had
(25:17):
the deal with the underage girl that was a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
By the way, they did not shy away from in
the documentary, which I was glad. I wondered if it
was just going to be a baseball one, but they
they addressed that head on, and even some of his
comments about that were just I don't even know what
you could say.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Honestly, it was actually only six she was sixteen, Yeah,
which I guess in Kentucky or Cincinnati, the same thing
that the age of sixteen not eighteen over there.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah, still not helping.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
And he was in his thirties.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
And then he said then he switched to like, well,
I thought I only diated eighteen year olds, and then
he said, I'm sure there's twenty eight and thirty year
olds here who are didating eighteen year olds. And then
just let the camera sit and it just it's soaked
in of like there probably aren't there. There probably aren't,
but for some reason in his world, yes, he was
(26:09):
able to normalize it and justify it.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So so here here's why I said, Like, the thing
about documentaries are they're so powerful, so powerful that people
they won't read. No one reads the Dowd Report. And
again the Peter Rose thing is actually near and dear
to me because my first radio partner, guy I really
look up to. His name's Chuck Wilson, and Chuck taught
(26:33):
me about the business. And Chuck was the officionado at
ESPN Radio on the Dowd Report, and he's like, it's
so much more damning than anybody could ever know. And
had he had something called the Chuck Wagging he brought
in with just files and files and files for every show.
Guy was unbelievably prepared, but the Dowd Report was ridiculous. Anyway,
nobody's gonna review that, nobody's gonna look at that. What
(26:54):
this was the This will live in eternity as the defining.
He had his chance to show any sort of what
was the word, do you say, a contrition? Any sort
of condition. There was none. Any sort of falling, you know,
falling before the court and just saying I'm a change man. None. None,
(27:19):
just complete defiance and inability to read the room, to
understand baseball, how he's viewed anything. Here's a good I
think this was the last one because they was going
to do another ped Rose documentary. There's not gonna be
any more stories about him. He's getting close to dying,
like at some point, getting closer and closer to getting
old senior citizen now, Like I think this is it.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Another commentary on him as a person is that Joe
Morgan was the person that went back to back to
him for him the most with current Hall of Famers,
with the museum, with Major League Baseball, Joe Morgan was
his biggest advocate when he was living. Former teammate Joe
Morgan dies, Joe Morgan's wife never hears from Pete. Then
(28:05):
they do a ceremony at at a Reds game, and
a bunch of the old Reds teammates of Joe's Morgan's
is there. Pete shows up in the like through the
back door and goes into another suite and watches the game.
Just just a complete jerk as a person.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yep, uh, Jay Stu, don't you have do you have
the what you hate?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah? That entire last five minutes.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, we piggybacked to remember because I didn't want to
scale his I ended up kind of going first.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I just I despise this conversation by Jason Tatum. I
despise it. I think we show. Uh, we show why
athletes are so selfish and entitled. We show why athletes
are so selfish and entitled. The only thing that matters
(28:58):
is the outcome and final score of a team sport.
It's the only thing that matters. Nothing else matters. And
if you're a fourteen point favorite, you win by twenty
six points. And a guy has a near flawless game,
one of the all time greats in the history of
the sport has a near flawless game. Why are we
talking about anything else but because and and honestly, I
(29:22):
fault people like ESPN for hiring Kendrick Perkins who has
no awareness of this, and US at Fox for like
we make it out like Jason Tatum was somehow defamed.
This is the problem with the NBA. This is why
nobody likes you, hey, as a league. This league is
so talented and there's so many good people in it.
(29:46):
But what happens is this is the perception of how
all NBA players are that they just I got it.
It's gotta be me, Like, no, it's not team won
by twenty six that's all the matters, doesn't matter, It
really doesn't matter. Like you've already got your money, you
get to get a gold medal. This is why the
team is selected as it is. It's a very tricky one.
(30:10):
And I love the fact that, you know, I saw
tweets in the first half of Steve Curry's not doing
anything and he doesn't like that's not true. He adjusted
and he used rotations, he used substitutions and groups that worked.
Lebron James wasn't great. Steph Curry he took out really
really early along with Joel Embiid. Steph Curry wasn't super
(30:31):
effective at all. And when they had a lineup of
you know, when they had Derek White in there, he
was awesome. He's really good. And you get people who
don't know anything about actual sports, who cover sports, who
exposed themselves as such, well, can you name me something
who is There was a woman who works at CBS
(30:51):
Sports who's like, can you tell me something that Derek
White does better? Doesn't matter. I mean, I could tell
you he's a better defense player, that he moves the ball,
he doesn't need to dripple the ball every time he
gets it, But it doesn't matter. You know what matters
is the team plays better with him in period, stop
(31:12):
and you know, if if Jason Tatum was to the
point where he was ahead of Kevin Durant and Anthony
Edwards and Lebron James based upon practice and their scrimmages,
then he would have played more. So. I don't know
what to tell you, but the fact that we're talking
about a guy who didn't play when the team looks
(31:33):
great wins by twenty six had to be challenged early
on the first half. In the first quarter, we've just
lost our way as people. We have created the most
selfish and entitled athletes. And the reason they're selfish and
they're entitled is people like Kendrick Perkins, who instead of going, hey,
I don't care what social media says, they won by
(31:55):
twenty six. Kevin Durant was awesome. That's what we talked about.
He gives into talking about it and we all feel
compelled to.
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say look good against South Sudan. They changed up to the lineup.
They did seemed that, you know, I don't care what
Steve Kerr says about Jason Tatum starting. I can't imagine
that was originally a plan. I can't. I can be wrong,
(33:13):
but to go from not playing to starting. That seems
a lot. Did I think he play, yes, I think
that was all the complaining, like fine, will start him.
He didn't play particularly well. You know, there's a world
there where people start to understand what makes you a
great NBA player, does not necessarily make do a great
international player just doesn't, and how you fit with the group.
(33:35):
But the matchups had them playing smaller for a good
portion of time, and then when South Sudan went small,
they threw the ball inside to Bam and to Anthony Davis,
and they for the most part kept kept South Sudan out.
You know, twenty points away, they didn't cover. I told
everybody knew, like I don't bet, but that's spread. Twenty
(33:57):
nine seemed too high. Here was Steve Kerr's explanation for
Embiid's oh sorry. Steve Kerr said that he didn't play
against South Sudan because the USA won a better match
up with their team speed and Kerr is gonna start
Lebron Steph Curry, Devin Booker, Drew Holiday and Embiid against
Puerto Rico. I remember Jason Tatum after yesterday's game said, hey,
(34:22):
this has definitely been a humbling experience, right. He said
that not about playing and scoring four points against South Sudan,
but not playing at all against Serbia. He said, quote,
win a championship, new contract cover of two K, and
then you sit the whole game cover of sports showy straits.
So it is definitely humbling. I'm just gonna tell you
right now, like hawl, it reads to me. I'm gonna
(34:42):
sit here as a coach and I'll tell you Jason
Tatum seems like a colossal pain in the ass when
Jalen Brown wasn't named to the team as a replacement,
all he said is Jalen Brown's teammate, and Jalen Brown
played great in the NBA finals. Was like, yeah, a
lot of guys want to get in. And now instead
of saying, hey, I don't care if I play a
(35:04):
minute before I play the whole game, I just want
to win, He's like, yeah, you know, I got all
this stuff was humbling. It's not humbling. You have not
been humbled, because then you read off some sort of
resume like any of us give a crap, right, tell
me if this sounds humbled to you. Win a championship,
a new cover of a new contract cover of two
(35:26):
K NBA two K cover of Sports Illustrated. It was
definitely a humbling experience. That's not humbling. You have not
been humbled, not at all. And oh yeah, by the way,
Jason Tatum, NBA Finals, how'd that work out for you? You know,
(35:51):
twenty one a game was fine, seven rebounds a game
was fine, but didn't shoot a great percentage, didn't play great?
And oh yeah, by the way, this is not the NBA, right,
not the NBA. John Morant would be a terrible, terrible
pick to beyond USA Basketball. Chamran is a dynamic player
(36:14):
when healthy, dynamic. So I just I do think that
this is part of Kerr's plan, right, is completely rotate
based upon team. Sometimes you don't play guys. The issue
is which guys get it, which guys don't, And this
(36:36):
is why some guys weren't selected. I mean, look, Steph
Curry's not played particularly well. He's not playing a ton
and the logic behind it is this is a different game.
It's way more physical, hard for him to get a
shot off and much harder for him to guard. Yes,
Jason Stewart, Yes.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Hey Doug, I think it's appropriate that we roll this in.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Here's the question that needs an answer, and the answer
is if only there was someone with the authority and
the wisdom to give us that answer.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Hold on, let's ask the coach.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Hey, Doug, yep, So don't you think that it.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Was how that that's not how questions asked? You say?
Don't you think you're leading me? What's the question?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh? Okay, well let me hold on? Hold on? What
should I say?
Speaker 6 (37:29):
How?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Hold on? How did this get to the point where
Steve kerr Is says after game one that he felt
like an idiot for not playing Jason Tatum, like, why
hasn't all of this been communicated to each player? It
was Tatum, you're not going to play game one and
you're not going to play game two.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
It was go back to go back to the quote
game one he said, we talked about this with Jason,
that that we that this this might happen. He absolutely did.
I'm not a surprise Jason Tedmone's right, is Joel embiid
last night?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Then? Why did you feel like an idiot?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Play the whole Can we play the whole cut? Play
the whole cut? Because I think what he's saying is like, hey,
you feel like an idiot not playing the guy, but
you had a plan and the playing clearly worked. You know,
because if you don't know anything about actual working forty minutes,
working in everybody the game plan, you're like, hey, we're
(38:25):
not going to play Jason tam I'd be like, I
take a listen, because out of context, it sounds like
he's questioned himself. Here's the entire cut.
Speaker 9 (38:35):
It's tough, but Jason handled it really well. I talked
to him today before the game that they may play
out this way just with Kevin coming back and the
lineups that I wanted to get to. But that'll change.
You know, Jason's going to play. Every game is going
to be different based on matchups. He's a total pro. He's,
you know, first team All NBA three years in a row.
(38:57):
I felt like an idiot not playing him. But in
a forty minute game, you can't play more than ten,
you really can't. And you know, so I just I
think he's he's an amazing guy, great player and handled
it beautifully, and you know he'll be back out their
next game.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, so he again, I think you're taking that as
the he felt like an idiot, like admitting mistake, whereas
I think what he meant is, you know, he's first
team All NBA three years row. I'm not going to
play him. But so you feel like an idiot. But
the truth is like, Okay, this is the plan we had.
It ended up working, and again because Kevin Durant was
(39:35):
played the perfect game in the first half and like,
I'm not going to I'm going to go back to
Kevin Durant early in the second half, which they.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Did well that You're right, The comment in full context
completely explains it. It's just that idiot one I think
has gotten them in trouble ever since he said it,
and people, obviously if there haven't been listening to the
full quote in context or what, because they took that
and ran with it, like Steven they did like twenty
straight minutes of ranting on Wait wait about Steven.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
He took some ount of context and used it. That's
that's stunning. I thought he's I thought he was a
journalist right when he told he told Dan Lebottard he's
a journalist. Yes, wow, I just look, I'm just trying
to express to you. We did this coaching is hard.
(40:22):
It's it's not easy, and a good portion of coaching
in the NBA is massaging egos and figuring out a
way to make it work. And I mean it's pretty
obvious that he's committed to this. I'm gonna sit a
guy or two a game so I don't have to
play twelve. If you play twelve, you know everybody's unhappy.
It's just not enough minutes, Just not enough minutes. Stunt
(40:44):
gott Leap Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I feel
bad for Gordon Hayward, but I will point out like
he kind of raised his think over not playing for
the Thunder in the playoffs. Now he retires, like kind
of think the Thunder knew he was done. It's pretty obvious.
Are any of you guys gonna watch the Hall of
Fame game tonight?
Speaker 8 (41:03):
Yeah, I'll watch a little of it for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Can't help yourself.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
I just like seeing the graphics, like seeing the uniforms.
Football is is back everything.
Speaker 8 (41:13):
But the football yeah, no, the product is Yeah, it's
just no.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I think it's a good I live by a sports calendar, guys,
and I think we all do, and this is a
this is It's not only August first, where we change
the calendar on our wall.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
It's already could you believe that?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
That's amazing?
Speaker 4 (41:32):
But the Hall of Fame game is is a signal
that fall is is basically here?
Speaker 7 (41:38):
Dan, is is it not? The starting prep of beginning
of kolonoscopy?
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Is?
Speaker 8 (41:42):
What I would say is? Uh is the is Hall
of Fame game?
Speaker 1 (41:46):
I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Oh, we were just bringing in something that Dan brought
up last week about a cool well. I had a
kolonoscopy last week. Yeah, no, that's that's that's all right, fine,
I have no problem. Forty five and fifty should get
a colonoscopy.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
You ever serve time dot Fletch? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
I only knew Fletch because when I lived in Santa Monica,
I heard that some of the scenes were filed and
filmed in the alleyways around there.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
It's back when Chevy Chase was funny. He hasn't been funny.
I think since Fletch that was the last time he was.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Fun maybe his funniest because there's Caddyshack, Vacation, and Fletch.
Those are the big three, and I would argue that
he was funniest on Fletch. It was the same scene
where he's talking to the doctor and he's trying to
feel him out about one of his patients, and he's like,
it's you know, it's it's really sad about old Ben,
and the doctor's like, ah, he's dying for years. Yeah,
(42:48):
but to go so suddenly like that you're talking to me.
It was intensive care for over a year. Yeah, but
at the very end, the very end when he died
was very sudden.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Where on the metal stand would Fletch b of those
three the gold do you think?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yes, I'm kind of a vacation guy. Overall, the movie
Vacation makes me laugh, maybe.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
More than more than Christmas Vacation.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
No, that's way to We've already had this discussion. Christmas
Vacation is a tear down from vacation, I think, and
then the other vacations are just awful.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
See, I look at it this way, Okay. I look
at Christmas Vacation being like the Austin Powers too, really okay,
because Austin Powers was incredibly funny if you were into
Bond movies, right, So much of it was a spoof
on these Bond movies and how cheesy they are. And
(43:45):
how over the top they are and whatever. It's very
very funny if you're if you were into Bond guys
at all. This is a spoof on all the Bond stuff.
And had Mike Myers Austin Powers too. Now all of
a sudden they had to find something funny when that
whole joke was kind of overplayed in Austin Powers one.
And I thought Austin Powers two was really really funny.
(44:06):
Vacation was the classic movie about the family vacation, right.
It was like, ah, everybody's done the family vacation, the
family road trip. We're going out to California. We're gonna
go to Wally World, right, come hell or high water.
And that's the kind of the old school eighties vacation.
Whereas Christmas Vacation, I thought, you know, you eliminated that
(44:28):
they'd actually go anywhere, but you'd also had the uniqueness
of family coming over the house, the Christmas bonus and
all that other stuff, and you know, the family members
you can't wait to have leave. And this ridiculous thing
we do where when any family member is welcome, no
matter how tough they are, to just have around. But
(44:49):
that's what we do as people. I disagree with you.
I think Christmas Vacation is funnier than vacation, even though
vacation probably in terms of storyline and just the ability
to capture the you know, some hilarious things from this
bizarre vacation made it unique. I think Christmas Vacation is
(45:10):
better than vacation.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Okay, so then you need to we need to correct
what you said three minutes ago, because if you're saying
Fletch was the last time he was funny, I think
Christmas Vacation was made in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 7 (45:23):
I think that was the last post Fletch for regular
vacation is pre Fletch.
Speaker 8 (45:28):
I believe.
Speaker 7 (45:30):
I thought he was great, like nothing but trouble like
he made some other decent films.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
What else do you make those decent spies like us?
Speaker 2 (45:38):
That was like early in eighties, wasn't it. Yeah, that
was in the Fletch range eighties.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, it was all the same same area. So Mary,
how do we get to this discussion what we're talking about? Oh,
we're talking about sports.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
Calend Sam had a horrible joke about Oh yeah, I
didn't set up all but we should go to break here.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, good, good, idea.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
We'll clean it up and edit as what we'll do. Dan,
I do agree with you, and it will be on
wherever I am today. And it's just it is good.
It does feel cause I think most people have done
the summer thing. We're like, yeah, I'm good with summer.
I really love Faaldy come around because falls it's the best.
Kids are back in school. Plus even for kids being
back in school, you got football games on Friday nights
(46:16):
or Thursday nights or Saturdays whatever. Right, new classes, new schools,
it's still fresh. It's not once you get to winter,
it's not to drudgery, and then sports it becomes peak.
I mean, think about this August we still have the
end Olympic Games, the kickoff of a football season, college football,
which has a true playoff, and of course you'll have basketball,
(46:37):
and then you get you know, October baseball is awesome.
So I'm with you on the sports calendar. I understand it.
It's a weird thing that we all will look eluit
and then go like I didn't know anybody playing. I
will feel if I watch in the second half, I'll
feel exactly like I feel watching the Grammys. You guys, ever,
watched the Grammys, and you're like, I've never heard of
any of these people.
Speaker 8 (46:59):
Yes, I know who they are, never heard this album?
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, Like I know, I'm starting to get to the
lame age. Like I'm pretty cool, Like I got teenage kids,
so I I you know, I went to Playboy Cardi
concerts this summer, like I I still take my daughters
to cool country concerts, right, Like I still have, by
at least by proxy, a little bit of swag to me.
But when I watched the Grammys, I feel like the
biggest dork ever because I don't know anybody. And then
(47:22):
it's the same thing with the preseason football, like I'm like,
ooh ooh wait, he played the Big twelve. Right, That's
about all I know.
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Doug Gottlieb
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