August 26, 2024 • 37 mins
Doug weighs in on the news that the Cowboys and their star receiver CeeDee Lamb have come to an agreement on a contract extension, Doug explains that Jerry Jones has actually been a good GM over the years. Doug gives his thoughts on Coach Prime and the University of Colorado banning a columnist from asking questions during press conferences. Doug welcomes long-time basketball coach and analyst and prolific talk-show host at Outkick Dan Dakich to talk about the Coach Prime thing. Plus, Nick Koop takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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So stip if you heard this before, but the Dallas
Cowboys re signed one of their own I know, I know. Well,
at least they got a discount on them. Nope, well
at least it didn't you know, derail their training camp. No, nope,
it's the same old as. And here's the thing I
will tell you about Jerry Jones. This is the most
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fair sports radio show in the history of fair sports
radio shows. Well, there's not a lot of them. I
feel the same way about the Dallas Cowboys as I
feel about how I approach politics. I am a radical
centrist in politics. I am a radical centrist in the league.
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I have my beliefs and things that you value in
how you're doing well. But it's all kind of case dependent,
and it's all about how I feel. And I will
tell you that while the Cowboys method seems to be
a little wonky, right like why did you wait this long?
Couldn't this deal be done? We also don't factor in
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that maybe the Cowboys wanted to get it done. But
Cede Lamb's people are being impossible because they wanted to
wait until as many of the deals were done as
possible to get one dollar more. They did not get
the most money of anybody. But to everyone who says, hey,
Jerry Jones is too old, Jerry Jones needs to give
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up this high in the sky idea that he can
somehow manage a football team's roster. He played at Arkansas
way back when he's a billionaire. He's a businessman, but
what does he know about football? He should hire a
football only asar correct. Everybody says that, can I offer
(02:35):
hup something that's really interesting that pushes directly back on
that I am not a Cowboy fan, I don't think
the Cowboys win the Super Bowl. Not a Dak Prescott fan,
not that I don't like him, but he's just not
greats how many times we have to see him in
a big spot perform at a very very average at
best level and not say, you know, Dak's not great
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yet They've still been k consistently good. And if we're
going to be critical of Jerry Jones, we can be,
but we also have to be fair to Jerry Jones. Yeah,
we got to be fair to him. So the first
thing is, you know, if you are again fair to
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Jerry Jones, fair to the Dallas Cowboys, and you want
to say, what has Jerry done recently? They've won twelve,
twelve and twelve, twelve, twelve and twelve. That's outstanding, really
outstanding stuff. The only year they didn't have a winning
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season since twenty sixteen was the year that Dak Prescott
broke his ankle, all right, when there were five hundred
year before that. The point is that whether you want
to take their records or how they finish or a
certain play and if they're that good and how much
that's fair. But if Jerry Jones' main job is player personnel, contracts,
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who they draft, all this stuff, And people always say
Jerry Jones is meddling. You know what, how about you
meddle More? How about you meddle More. I don't think
Mike McCarthy is great. You know, they haven't figured out
the coaching thing for a while. Thought they could have
pulled the trigger and gotten Sean Payton in there this year.
Thought there have been some other coaches out there that
they should have gone after. Maybe Parcels would have I
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mean not Parcels. Belichick would have been a great fit
because Belichick does everything that McCarthy doesn't do in terms
of winning in the playoffs. But if the question comes
down to what is he doing with contracts, what is
he doing with player personnel? What does he know about
drafting and acquiring whatever? Have you ever heard on any
television radio show, read in print anyone saying, you know,
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the Cowboys just don't have that good of talent. No,
are some of their guys overrated? You know? Sure? Are
they over valued because they played for the Cowboys?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Should he have signed Ezekee Elliott or Randy Gregory some
of these deals that he's done. No, but you know
what in spite of it that when the Cowboys have
had failings very few times and especially recently, have you
ever heard anybody go cowboys don't have good players. So
if there's anything messed up about his EVOL, what's messed
up about his EVOL is how to put everything together
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coaching staff, timing, and really quarterback. But you win thirty
six games in three years, no one says a word
negatively about the personnel that you have, and you've revamped
an offensive line that age right before all of our eyes.
I got to tell you, if he's the medaling owner
in this particular case, why don't you meddle more? Yeah,
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you didn't think you were walking into that, all right?
How many of you thought you were going to get
a pro Jerry Jones take to start the show? Probably
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Yuke this changes in some people's minds where they should
land financially. I don't think a UK has shown the ability,
or maybe he hasn't had the ability to be the
number one wide receiver to put up those type of
numbers that Cede Lamb gets. But he is really talented
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and that creates the bar somewhere in that mid thirties
per year, somewhere in the ninety two one hundred and
ten in terms of guaranteed money and the fact that
CD didn't get more money than Justin Jefferson. I think
it's about right, but it'll be interesting to see what
that means for Jamar Chasing Brandon a Yuk cope you
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okay with that? I mean the idea that we all
can make fun of the Cowboys. We can all say
the Cowboys fall flat, but no one actually says Cowboys
don't have good players, And people get onto Jerry Jones
about meddling with player personnel.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, I think the bigger criticism you can maybe lobby
against Jerry Jones is the coaches that he's hired and
hanging on to Jason Garrett for way too long with
the Cowboys. More to your point, they've had talent for
plenty of years out they've been in the playoffs, they've
hosted a playoff game, and they have fell flat in
those instances.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
But they're close.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
They had to get this deal done, and so I'm
with you in supporting Jerry Jones when it comes to
player stuff, you know, like the whole Johnny Manzel thing
and hit that kind of got blown out of proportion
and obviously didn't really happen. So Cowboys had to do
this deal and get it done. Ceedee Lamb is their
biggest playmaker on offense. And you know, I think people
are kind of down on the Cowboys this year because
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they've been that regular season team that falters in the playoffs.
But there's no reason they can't be right there again
in the NFC East and competing in the NFC overall.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Stuck Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice to Nick Kope. You'll hear from him later on
the hours. We get all the updates of everything going on.
But Ceedee Lamb Cowboys. I mean, like this thing is
all written and if there's a fair criticism, it's that Jerry.
He may talk tough, he always relents because like he
always gives in. As we've taught, we told you this
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would happen, it did happen. And but whatever you think
about Jerry Jones methods, whatever you think about how the
Cowboys have finished in regards to you, and this is
just in regards to player personnel, they got good enough players.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
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Speaker 6 (09:07):
Chase.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you're a big fan of alliteration, are you not?
Speaker 6 (09:11):
It's one of my favorite things. Yeah, and my favorite things.
I mean, it's really the cornerstone of laziness in any
creative endeavor. So if you're naming your store and you
use a literation, I'm just assuming you put the least
amount of effort into doing it. The crazy thing about alliteration, though,
is as lazy as the creation is the public falls
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for it. Like if you put something alliteration on something
like people remember it, like Dodger dogs. It's just a
hot dog, but for whatever reason, you call it a
Dodger dog and it has like everlasting I don't know.
I guess imprint on people's mind that it's the greatest
hot dog in the history of the world. But it's not.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
No, it is it is definitely not so. So apparently
there's a there's a column in Denver named Sam Keeler,
and Sam's crime against humanity is the fact that he's
used alliteration to make fun of of Dion Sanders in
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the past. Right, he's called him a false prophet, deposition,
Dion planet Prime, the Bruce Lee of BS, Dion, the
Dion kool aid, and the circus that cu Athletics Department was.
And this action is indefinite. They will not take questions
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from Sam Keeler because he's made he's made fun of
of Dion Sanders time as Colorado head coach. Do you
still think that those are lazy? To the Bruce Lee
of BS, I think is pretty good. Now. I always
thought that he was more of a Michaelangelo, Right, he's
a BS artiste. But I do understand the Bruce Lee
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of BS.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yeah, I mean, on the spectrum of literation, I think
that's that's all the more creative side on the Bruce
Lea bis that's pretty darn good.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, um hmm, So okay, can I'm gonna tell you
guys what I think, and then you guys should show
how you think. I think the thing like, here's the deal.
You're allowed as a calumnist to write whatever you want.
But what do we always say about these guys? Hey, man,
come into locker room face the music. I actually think
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that people who are championing Dion you don't have. Dion
doesn't have to answer questions. He does not. I think
it's bad form, especially when you're a guy who's a
master orator. The way the Dion is like Dion Sanders
has flaws. He is not a flawless human beings and
not a flawless head coach. Okay. On the other hand,
if we said what are his strengths, oration is a strength.
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It's almost poetic and preacherlike and smooth the way it comes.
That's fair, correct, Like, none of that is unfair? Okay.
So if you are a master of the English language,
what are you so scared of take questions from a columnist?
Why explain that? But here's where Sam Keeler like you
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can be critical of what he's written and not being
context and the fact that Dion like it's not easy
to turn around a Colorado football program and before you
get good, you got to get interesting, and that he's
made it really interesting. It's been a financial success. Are
their flaws? Sure? Has he said dumb things? Of course?
Have they made mistakes? Yes? Are we sure it's gonna work?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
All of these things are allowed. But I will tell
you I give Sam Keeler credit there. What so many
coaches will say is, here's a guy making comments about
something and we never see him. He doesn't want to
make eye contact with us, He avoids it. He simply
writes it in the in the paper, or writes it
on Twitter, or writes it on a website, and then
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won't be face to face. This guy will, this guy will.
What's your position on this, Dan Buyer, because you did
say I mean Dan Buyer, Jason Stewart and Nick Cope.
What's your position on this? Because Jay you did say
that when you alliterate, you're covering up to the fact
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that you're kind of taking cheap shots and taking the
easy way out. I like this. I think that Dion
should embrace instead of pushing away. And I like the
fact that Saint Keiler's showing up at practice and showing
up at press conference.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
I don't even think the alliteration factors into my opinion here.
I think that anytime that you are deplatforming, silencing, censoring
a member of the press, that's a slippery slope. We're
seeing it on the political level. We've been seeing it
the last four years with the larger platforms I e
x slash, Twitter and Facebook and Instagram, all this stuff.
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Anytime again, anytime you are censoring, silencing, or not allowing
somebody to do free press, then I'm against it. I
don't care what the reason is. And it's a slippery slope.
And now it's a precedent setting thing. So now Dion
could outlaw any journalists. Any head football coach could could
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censor any journalist. It's just it's not a good press
of the son.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Here's Dion Sanders this weekend.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
You don't care, really because it don't influence you. I've
never read an article or a comment and said, oh,
that's gonna make me go harder. I'm gonna go hard regardless.
But that comment just allowed me to know where you stand. Okay,
So that's the only differential of the thing. It doesn't
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propel me. Where I came from propelled me. Okay, how
I grew up propelled me. Like you know, being African
American one a few that's a head coaching college football.
That kind of stuff propels me. It's not what you
say that lets me know where you stand. I'm not
negative to anybody in here. I will challenge you and
ask you why or where's this coming from. So I'm
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not I'm not built like that. I'm not built to hate.
I'm not a hateful guy. I'm not a I come
with love. I think if anybody in here has had
encounters with me, I don't come with the bull junk.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I come with the peace and the joy.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Now, when you show me where you stand, I might
have to change that a little bit. So I'm not
going to match your ignorance.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Ah, Yes, I do like the Bruce Lee a bullshit.
We'll see Bruce Lee a b B bull junk. Yeah,
he's that. That is a like I said, I don't
understand why he doesn't want to take questions from a
guy when there's a guy who can just throw out
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the most masterful plate of words salad ever where you're like, wait,
what did.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
He just say?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
He just said nothing affects him. Well, if nothing of
then why do you care about taking questions from a guy?
It's all very confusing. Maybe Nick Coke can make sense
and it can make sense of as he joins us
with an update, Nick, what he got.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
All right, Doug, Yeah, I can't make too much sense
of that with the I just think I think it's
so soft to go this far with these press things
he could tell. It really bothers them. And I feel
like in college football, as much as any other sport,
teams can take on the mentality of a head coach,
and you look at a lot of the successful head coaches,
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like like Nick Saban would find a way to not
make this more of a thing.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I just I just feel like it's really soft and
it overshadows some of the things I think Dion does
that are admirable. I saw this today that he's got
some players on the team who have children, and he
partnered with a local bank to get some money in
their accounts for their kids and help set their kids
up for a future. I think that's awesome and really
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cool that Dion does that, But no one's talking about that.
They're talking about him barring the co or barring the
calmness from asking questions. And I just think Dion hurts
himself with this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
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and that host of Don't at Me, Danny, what are
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your thoughts on Dion versus a Denver Post columnist.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I love it. I mean I love it. Look, you're
gonna you'll know this very quickly when you get into coaching.
When I got into coaching, I thought all this stuff mattered.
Guy hel Bowling, Green has the stroke center. I got
Kermstrow to give the donation the court. I got the
guy to give the court donation, graduated every players, and
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none of it matters. The only thing that matters is winning.
I heard your guy saying, well, we're not talking about
Dion's helping kids. Who cares? I mean, I swear to
got five fundraisers during the year. The only thing that
matters is if you win. And I don't have any problem,
and you probably won't have any problem. It probably haven't
with people coming at you. But eventually, as a coach
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you get tired of personal attacks. And I saw what
that guy wrote, and it's personal. And you know what
great I've always said this middle aged white guys with
pizza stains all over them, These media guys, they hate
being held accountable. They hate it more than we had
one here Doyle. Greg Doyle is banned basically a restraining
order on him for his creepiness towards Caitlin Clark, the WNBA,
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the Indie Star, and then the Indie Fever banned him
from covering games. I like what they did at Colorade.
It's all right. You want to be critical, that's great,
but don't get personal. Don't make it every time. And
if there is no one's saying you can't write about it,
you just you know, not gonna take questions. I think
it's great, but ultimately, none of it, Doug, none of
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it matters. You lose the North Dakota State, people are
gonna crush you. Whether you ban the reporter, you didn't,
you beat North Dakota State, you keep winning, everybody's gonna
love you. That is the reality of coaching today. So
much ado about nothing, But I ain't mad at him
for doing it.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
No, well I am, And just because the thing I
like about the thing I like about about Dion's deal
I mean about the reporter is he showed up to
the press conference. You know, the criticism a lot of
athletes and coaches have is you have guys writing about
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things and they spend zero time actually at the facility
and they won't own their words. And of all guys,
Dan who can handle himself with the media and can
can can clap back if you will. Well, I mean,
the best thing Dion does is he's an orator. It's
almost preacher like. It's amazing on how he can put
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sentences together. Why would he be Why would he shy
away from a couple of critical questions just because the
guy went he felt like personal.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Because of what you just said ego. You know, look,
I don't need to hear this from you. I mean,
you want to criticize me, great, but I'm done with you.
See if people get credit, and I mean that is
always what you just said fascinates me. People get credit
because they show up. Okay, I mean, what are you
supposed to do. It's your job. You know you're not
supposed to show up. You're supposed to be afraid to
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show up. I'm with you on Dion, and he is
unbelievable with it. He could bury that guy every single
time the guy asked him a question. In some ways,
he's actually doing the guy a favor, but I like it. Look,
you know, well, listen, you can do your job. We're
not hurting you, but we're just we're just not going
to acknowledge you asking football questions because frankly, the guy
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has gone after Dion non football. You know, he's going
after him personal. So you know, people say, well, Dion soft, well,
I mean, Deon Sanders ain't soft. He may be a
lot of things. You may not like him, but he
ain't so well. I think skin Yeah, I don't think so.
I just think at some point you just get set
up and you're like, look, Jack asked, I'm not dealing
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with you anymore. I mean I could go negative on you.
I could rip you, and Dion certainly could. Hell, all
you got to do is call him a racist. You
know how this goes in this day and age. I'll
dm got to say as well, this middle aged white
dudes's racist, and everybody will jump on that, just like
they did last year when anybody that criticized Deon Sanders
was referred to as racist. So he could have done that,
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but I think they chose the pass of actually least
resistance by saying, look, you had, you take your shots. Great,
here's the accountability for that from our standpoint, and then
we move then we move along that that. You know,
I get what you're saying, totally understand it. But from
my standpoint, it's like, man, we're here at a football
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press conference. You want to call me these names. That
ain't what we're here for, and we're not acknowledging. Good
luck to you, good luck to us. You'll have your say,
we'll have our say, and that's just a matter of
whether we're going to win or lose.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
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how much does Florida State losing the first game of
the season hurt from the hurt the validity of last
year's undefeated season.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I've ever believed that it does. You know, every team
is organic, Every team is different. Hell, every team is
different from the start of the year till the end
of the year. Doug, I'm not one of those that
thinks it does. Others may have a different opinion. You know,
you got a new quarterback in there. You got a
quarterback that you know, he's on his third school, the
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Travis kid. Know, I don't know whether he transferred not,
but he seemed like to be the guy that was
ingrained last year as the true leader. I'm not one
of those. You know, we we didn't have a great
year my freshman year year after Indiana won national championship,
and I don't think that reflected on anything. You know,
but maybe that's not the right analogy. But I've always
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thought each year is different. I'm actually you know, I've
always thought that, you know, each season is different from
the start of the season. You look back as the
season goes along, you're like, man, why were we so
good then? Or you look back and you go, man,
we're so much better now because of this. I just
don't put my stock into it, Doug, I really don't.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I mean, I'm I don't think there's anything to it,
but I do think perception. Perception makes it, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Sure, I mean everybody everybody's looking to say, see I
told you so one way or the other. Right, Like,
let's say anyone by a by a and you know,
Dju was really good. You know what it would be? Well,
see how good we are. We can be good with everybody,
and Clemson you screwed up. Look how good he is.
Everybody wants to do that. I guess maybe I'm still
just looking at it from a coaching perspective or maybe
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a player perspective. I just don't don't put it one
for the other from a media or maybe from a
fan perspective. Sure, I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Saban left Alabama in pretty good shape. When coach Night
got fired from Indiana, it was wasn't great, it wasn't
like peak of it. But still there is the same
parallel of replacing an absolute legend. How hard is that
going to be at Alabama?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
You know, Doug, it's interesting you bring up the Indiana thing.
Because I've brought that up too. You still got it.
Mike Davis has talked about this. You still got the
Bob Knight discipline in the program. You still got the
Bob Knight impact for a year or two. You know,
you talked to Dane five for hornsby guys that played
when they went in twenty twenty two thousand and two.
Excuse me, you know there was still a lot of
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Bob Knight there. And the same thing with Saban. There's
still a lot of Saban there. Yeah, he's not there,
but there's still the discipline in place of the players. Uh,
there's still the Hey, look, this is how we go
about our business. Even though maybe it's changed. It is
really difficult from a from a standpoint. You know, they
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always say you want to be the guy that follows
the guy that follows the guy or whatever it is, right,
but there's still that influence. And you know, once Mike
Davis's influence took over. I hate to say this because
I really like my program went downhill. We've seen that
a lot of times a year or two, the team
goes well, replacing a legend, and then does it go south.
That's why I'm interested in what John Shire does coming
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up here as we move this along replacing Krzyzewski.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, look, yeah, you get that, you get that. My
dad used to say, you get that one year buffer, right,
that one year buffer still have you still have the
discipline and then yeah, that it wears off. It's like
you'll get that, I think from the Newingam Patriots, Right,
you'll get one you're a buffer from the from and
you'll have a little bit more of excitement because there's
a little bit more freedom. Yeah, but what happens is
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after that then too much freedom, not enough discipline, depends
on swings too much the other way, and that's why
it becomes kind of a disaster.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
You are you are one of the only guys in
the media that I'll understand that, I swear to God.
Most people will immediately say you can't be the guy
to follow the guy, and that's not true. Other people say,
not understanding. Well, this is a completely new thing. And
look how energized players are. They get to have music,
proud whatever it is. But the fact of the matter is,
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you know, after that, I would actually go maybe too.
You get particularly with a hype with a big time
personalities like we're talking about. But I will say this
that ways off and now it's yours and what you
do with it, you do with it. And look, but
here's the one thing that doesn't change, because the expectations.
You know, per Alabama, you got Milrod there as a
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quarterback who's been there. He's been through every single situation.
He's made great plays, he's been ripped. And so the
expectations of what Nick Saban did and what can suffocate you.
The expectations of what Bob Knight did. Obviously for those
of us that are a little bit older, you know,
the of what John Wooden does. Some people will say
still haunts that program. You know, I don't know, but
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I do know this. Let's talk about Duke. Duke needs
to get to a final four under shire Shire's records. Great,
but that's what they need to do. Why because that's
what they did under the previous guy. So, Doug, I
don't I swear to god, I'm not kissing your ass.
You're on the few guys because you played and obviously
coaching you know that gets that. Most people will go
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the easy route. Oh, it's impossible to be the guy
that follows a guy. Oh you know what, you can't
do this, no no no no no. You get a buffer,
you get the discipline, and you see what happens with
it a year or two from now, depending on what
you know, how long it lingers.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
He's the one and only Dan Doccas. Check out his
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Kick the Best Man. Have a good one.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Thank hey, Doug. Love talking to you, brothers.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
See you anytime. Dan doc is joining us on the
Doug Outler Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
See.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
He had a completely different perspective and and Jay, Dude,
that's one that you share with me, Like everybody has
a limit. Prime was pushed to his limb. He's like,
you know, I'm just not gonna take calls. I'm gonna
take take questions from you. You know. My point is
that is that this is the actual specialty. Like that
would be like me not taking questions from somebody because
they're too negative about me. Like again, there are things
(28:31):
that I'm I don't think anyone expects of me in
year one, but I think people expect me to handle
the media better than most because I've been on the
other side of the microphone.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
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Speaker 2 (28:47):
Were you guys like nineties WWF wrestling fans? Like when
I was a kid?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I was.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I've never been in the WWE, but WWF back in
the day, my dad was super into. Do you see
sid Vicious died sixty three thatt with cancer sex pistols? No, no, no,
like Sid Vicious the wrestler.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Who am I thinking of someone else?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Sex pistols? Sid Vicious also got the call a long
time ago lead singer. But this is Sidus the wrestler.
You gotta be a WWF guy, which none of you
guys are. Let's get to a game.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show, all right, Doug.
Today's game is big deal, little deal, no deal? All right, Doug.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
We'll start in baseball, big deal, little deal or no deal.
That Red Sox catcher Danny Janssen became the first player
in Major League history to play for both teams in
the same game.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Okay, So Jason explained this to me as we were
taping the pot and I was so confused by it.
So the deal was this was a continued game.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yep, this was previously Yeah, it was in late June
and it got rained out, so they had scheduled at
the time to make it up today. Jansen was in
the Blue Jays lineup as a catcher back in late June,
and between then and now he got traded to the
Red Sox, and so he was putting the lineup today.
His spot was actually up for Toronto when the game resumed.
(30:30):
They obviously had to pinch hit for him, so he
was behind the plate catching when his spot in the
lineup was up for Toronto, and so he technically becomes
a first player to play in the same game with
both teams in the.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
History at Baseball of one hundred years, where they've stay
stated everything that he's the first.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Player major league history is the specific designation I read.
Who knows how this happened in the minors somewhere, guys
moving around, but yes, major league history.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
That's crazy. How big a deal is That's a big deal.
Baseball has been played for a long time. That's the
first time it's ever happened. That's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
All right, we got some more baseball to throw at you,
big deal. Little deal, no deal that Shoho Tani became
the sixth player to record forty home runs and forty
steals in the same season.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
How big a deal is it? I think it's huge.
He's got it. We were tracking this. He still got
a shot at at forty five. Forty five is not
out of the question. Fifty fifty is not out of
the question either.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Got another month.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, and this is his first year in the National League. Granted,
National League is essentially the same as American League now,
but also he's still and you saw it three. He
threw up the mountain the other day as well, so
he's rehabbing an injury while performing this. Well, that's a
big deal.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Do you think the pitch clock in the new rules
over the last couple of years any devaluing of a
forty one forty season at all? We saw it last
year with Ronald Lacuna Junior. Previous to that, we hadn't
seen it in a long time, nearly two decades.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Well. Also, the bigger basis right allowed for stolen bases
to be easier. Sure, sure, that's why it's really hard
to compare eras you know, when the rules change so steadily. Yeah,
I think there's something evaluation of it.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal. That
Aaron Judge reached the fifty home run mark for the
third time in his career over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I think that's a big deal. I just do.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Is.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You know, I don't think anybody's going to pass Barry
Bonds steroid mark. But the fact that here's a guy
who's going to be right there near sixty multiple times
in his career, you can't. That's That's a modern day
marvel is the ability to be consistent at that level
hitting home runs.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Every home run he's hit lately too, right off the bat,
you know it's gone there, just absolutely no doubt.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
It is no doubt crushing.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
All right, let's go to the NFL. Big deal, little
deal or no deal that Gerrod Mayo says Drake May
is outplaying Jacoby Brissett, But Mayo says there are other
factors to consider in naming a starter, including Brissette's experience
and the player's entire body of work throughout the off season,
kind of hedging things here.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
He was there earlier. Yeah, I mean, I think they
feel like if Drake may doesn't play well, taking him
out is hard, then putting him back in as even
hardro whereas if you start Jacoby Brizette, taking Jacob Brissette
out is not that hard. So I think that's the thinking.
How big a deal is it that he's out playing him,
whether the coach is saying he's out playing him, that's
a big deal.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
It's a big deal, big deal, little deal, no deal
that with Cede Lamb's holdout over, he becomes the second
highest paid receiver in the league by average annual value
thirty four million a year for Cede Lamb, just short
of Justin Jefferson's thirty five million per year.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's a big deal. It's a big deal on both sides.
Big deal for the Cowboys they didn't have to make
him the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL. Big
deal for Ceedee Lamb that he got paid, that his
you know, his holdout hold in seemed to work. And
big deal for the Cowboys that now they only have
two star players quarterback and Michael Parsons, who feel like
they need new deals. Parsons probably hasked to wait a
while and we'll see if they make If they make
(34:24):
the quarterback wait as well.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Big deal.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Little deal, no deal that the Chiefs have reportedly agreed
to contract terms with receiver Juju Smith Schuster after he
was cut by the Patriots earlier this month.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
It feels like a little deal. What it feels like
is it feels like there's they know that there's this
substantial amount of punishment coming towards what's his name, the
wide receiver had gotten Rashia Rice and Rashet Rice. This
just protection from Rashie Rice. Otherwise, you know, he knows
the system. He'll be fine, but he's nowhere near. I
(35:04):
mean they they were fine letting him walk out the
door by trading him. This is just a stop gap
wall where she rises suspended.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Big deal, little deal or no deal that Mid Major
Madness picked Green Bay second to last in their Horizon
League preseason pool.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I'll say it's a little deal. I mean it's good.
It's great for us, great for us, Like what do
big expectations do for me and for my program? Nothing?
Whereas if you pick us down near the bottom. We
finished another But I'm like, ah, look, nobody thought would
be any good. And if we do any better than that,
(35:45):
like say you thought we're gonna suck, you want to
know the truth, Nick, we got no I think we'll
be pretty good. I got no idea how good. I
think they coaching this league are really good and most
teams have all new teams. So Green Bay is gonna
have a good team this year, right he I mean, yeah,
(36:05):
there you go, and that's game time.
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So stip if you heard this before, but the Dallas
Cowboys re signed one of their own I know, I know. Well,
at least they got a discount on them. Nope, well
at least it didn't you know, derail their training camp. No, nope,
it's the same old as. And here's the thing I
will tell you about Jerry Jones. This is the most
(01:08):
fair sports radio show in the history of fair sports
radio shows. Well, there's not a lot of them. I
feel the same way about the Dallas Cowboys as I
feel about how I approach politics. I am a radical
centrist in politics. I am a radical centrist in the league.
(01:28):
I have my beliefs and things that you value in
how you're doing well. But it's all kind of case dependent,
and it's all about how I feel. And I will
tell you that while the Cowboys method seems to be
a little wonky, right like why did you wait this long?
Couldn't this deal be done? We also don't factor in
(01:48):
that maybe the Cowboys wanted to get it done. But
Cede Lamb's people are being impossible because they wanted to
wait until as many of the deals were done as
possible to get one dollar more. They did not get
the most money of anybody. But to everyone who says, hey,
Jerry Jones is too old, Jerry Jones needs to give
(02:09):
up this high in the sky idea that he can
somehow manage a football team's roster. He played at Arkansas
way back when he's a billionaire. He's a businessman, but
what does he know about football? He should hire a
football only asar correct. Everybody says that, can I offer
(02:35):
hup something that's really interesting that pushes directly back on
that I am not a Cowboy fan, I don't think
the Cowboys win the Super Bowl. Not a Dak Prescott fan,
not that I don't like him, but he's just not
greats how many times we have to see him in
a big spot perform at a very very average at
best level and not say, you know, Dak's not great
(02:58):
yet They've still been k consistently good. And if we're
going to be critical of Jerry Jones, we can be,
but we also have to be fair to Jerry Jones. Yeah,
we got to be fair to him. So the first
thing is, you know, if you are again fair to
(03:21):
Jerry Jones, fair to the Dallas Cowboys, and you want
to say, what has Jerry done recently? They've won twelve,
twelve and twelve, twelve, twelve and twelve. That's outstanding, really
outstanding stuff. The only year they didn't have a winning
(03:42):
season since twenty sixteen was the year that Dak Prescott
broke his ankle, all right, when there were five hundred
year before that. The point is that whether you want
to take their records or how they finish or a
certain play and if they're that good and how much
that's fair. But if Jerry Jones' main job is player personnel, contracts,
(04:09):
who they draft, all this stuff, And people always say
Jerry Jones is meddling. You know what, how about you
meddle More? How about you meddle More. I don't think
Mike McCarthy is great. You know, they haven't figured out
the coaching thing for a while. Thought they could have
pulled the trigger and gotten Sean Payton in there this year.
Thought there have been some other coaches out there that
they should have gone after. Maybe Parcels would have I
(04:30):
mean not Parcels. Belichick would have been a great fit
because Belichick does everything that McCarthy doesn't do in terms
of winning in the playoffs. But if the question comes
down to what is he doing with contracts, what is
he doing with player personnel? What does he know about
drafting and acquiring whatever? Have you ever heard on any
television radio show, read in print anyone saying, you know,
(04:54):
the Cowboys just don't have that good of talent. No,
are some of their guys overrated? You know? Sure? Are
they over valued because they played for the Cowboys?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Should he have signed Ezekee Elliott or Randy Gregory some
of these deals that he's done. No, but you know
what in spite of it that when the Cowboys have
had failings very few times and especially recently, have you
ever heard anybody go cowboys don't have good players. So
if there's anything messed up about his EVOL, what's messed
up about his EVOL is how to put everything together
(05:32):
coaching staff, timing, and really quarterback. But you win thirty
six games in three years, no one says a word
negatively about the personnel that you have, and you've revamped
an offensive line that age right before all of our eyes.
I got to tell you, if he's the medaling owner
in this particular case, why don't you meddle more? Yeah,
(05:58):
you didn't think you were walking into that, all right?
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Yuke this changes in some people's minds where they should
land financially. I don't think a UK has shown the ability,
or maybe he hasn't had the ability to be the
number one wide receiver to put up those type of
numbers that Cede Lamb gets. But he is really talented
(06:43):
and that creates the bar somewhere in that mid thirties
per year, somewhere in the ninety two one hundred and
ten in terms of guaranteed money and the fact that
CD didn't get more money than Justin Jefferson. I think
it's about right, but it'll be interesting to see what
that means for Jamar Chasing Brandon a Yuk cope you
(07:04):
okay with that? I mean the idea that we all
can make fun of the Cowboys. We can all say
the Cowboys fall flat, but no one actually says Cowboys
don't have good players, And people get onto Jerry Jones
about meddling with player personnel.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, I think the bigger criticism you can maybe lobby
against Jerry Jones is the coaches that he's hired and
hanging on to Jason Garrett for way too long with
the Cowboys. More to your point, they've had talent for
plenty of years out they've been in the playoffs, they've
hosted a playoff game, and they have fell flat in
those instances.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
But they're close.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
They had to get this deal done, and so I'm
with you in supporting Jerry Jones when it comes to
player stuff, you know, like the whole Johnny Manzel thing
and hit that kind of got blown out of proportion
and obviously didn't really happen. So Cowboys had to do
this deal and get it done. Ceedee Lamb is their
biggest playmaker on offense. And you know, I think people
are kind of down on the Cowboys this year because
(07:57):
they've been that regular season team that falters in the playoffs.
But there's no reason they can't be right there again
in the NFC East and competing in the NFC overall.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Stuck Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice to Nick Kope. You'll hear from him later on
the hours. We get all the updates of everything going on.
But Ceedee Lamb Cowboys. I mean, like this thing is
all written and if there's a fair criticism, it's that Jerry.
He may talk tough, he always relents because like he
always gives in. As we've taught, we told you this
(08:30):
would happen, it did happen. And but whatever you think
about Jerry Jones methods, whatever you think about how the
Cowboys have finished in regards to you, and this is
just in regards to player personnel, they got good enough players.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
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Speaker 2 (08:57):
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Speaker 6 (09:07):
Chase.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you're a big fan of alliteration, are you not?
Speaker 6 (09:11):
It's one of my favorite things. Yeah, and my favorite things.
I mean, it's really the cornerstone of laziness in any
creative endeavor. So if you're naming your store and you
use a literation, I'm just assuming you put the least
amount of effort into doing it. The crazy thing about alliteration, though,
is as lazy as the creation is the public falls
(09:33):
for it. Like if you put something alliteration on something
like people remember it, like Dodger dogs. It's just a
hot dog, but for whatever reason, you call it a
Dodger dog and it has like everlasting I don't know.
I guess imprint on people's mind that it's the greatest
hot dog in the history of the world. But it's not.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
No, it is it is definitely not so. So apparently
there's a there's a column in Denver named Sam Keeler,
and Sam's crime against humanity is the fact that he's
used alliteration to make fun of of Dion Sanders in
(10:14):
the past. Right, he's called him a false prophet, deposition,
Dion planet Prime, the Bruce Lee of BS, Dion, the
Dion kool aid, and the circus that cu Athletics Department was.
And this action is indefinite. They will not take questions
(10:34):
from Sam Keeler because he's made he's made fun of
of Dion Sanders time as Colorado head coach. Do you
still think that those are lazy? To the Bruce Lee
of BS, I think is pretty good. Now. I always
thought that he was more of a Michaelangelo, Right, he's
a BS artiste. But I do understand the Bruce Lee
(10:55):
of BS.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Yeah, I mean, on the spectrum of literation, I think
that's that's all the more creative side on the Bruce
Lea bis that's pretty darn good.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, um hmm, So okay, can I'm gonna tell you
guys what I think, and then you guys should show
how you think. I think the thing like, here's the deal.
You're allowed as a calumnist to write whatever you want.
But what do we always say about these guys? Hey, man,
come into locker room face the music. I actually think
(11:28):
that people who are championing Dion you don't have. Dion
doesn't have to answer questions. He does not. I think
it's bad form, especially when you're a guy who's a
master orator. The way the Dion is like Dion Sanders
has flaws. He is not a flawless human beings and
not a flawless head coach. Okay. On the other hand,
if we said what are his strengths, oration is a strength.
(11:52):
It's almost poetic and preacherlike and smooth the way it comes.
That's fair, correct, Like, none of that is unfair? Okay.
So if you are a master of the English language,
what are you so scared of take questions from a columnist?
Why explain that? But here's where Sam Keeler like you
(12:13):
can be critical of what he's written and not being
context and the fact that Dion like it's not easy
to turn around a Colorado football program and before you
get good, you got to get interesting, and that he's
made it really interesting. It's been a financial success. Are
their flaws? Sure? Has he said dumb things? Of course?
Have they made mistakes? Yes? Are we sure it's gonna work?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
All of these things are allowed. But I will tell
you I give Sam Keeler credit there. What so many
coaches will say is, here's a guy making comments about
something and we never see him. He doesn't want to
make eye contact with us, He avoids it. He simply
writes it in the in the paper, or writes it
on Twitter, or writes it on a website, and then
(12:58):
won't be face to face. This guy will, this guy will.
What's your position on this, Dan Buyer, because you did
say I mean Dan Buyer, Jason Stewart and Nick Cope.
What's your position on this? Because Jay you did say
that when you alliterate, you're covering up to the fact
(13:18):
that you're kind of taking cheap shots and taking the
easy way out. I like this. I think that Dion
should embrace instead of pushing away. And I like the
fact that Saint Keiler's showing up at practice and showing
up at press conference.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
I don't even think the alliteration factors into my opinion here.
I think that anytime that you are deplatforming, silencing, censoring
a member of the press, that's a slippery slope. We're
seeing it on the political level. We've been seeing it
the last four years with the larger platforms I e
x slash, Twitter and Facebook and Instagram, all this stuff.
(13:54):
Anytime again, anytime you are censoring, silencing, or not allowing
somebody to do free press, then I'm against it. I
don't care what the reason is. And it's a slippery slope.
And now it's a precedent setting thing. So now Dion
could outlaw any journalists. Any head football coach could could
(14:17):
censor any journalist. It's just it's not a good press
of the son.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Here's Dion Sanders this weekend.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
You don't care, really because it don't influence you. I've
never read an article or a comment and said, oh,
that's gonna make me go harder. I'm gonna go hard regardless.
But that comment just allowed me to know where you stand. Okay,
So that's the only differential of the thing. It doesn't
(14:44):
propel me. Where I came from propelled me. Okay, how
I grew up propelled me. Like you know, being African
American one a few that's a head coaching college football.
That kind of stuff propels me. It's not what you
say that lets me know where you stand. I'm not
negative to anybody in here. I will challenge you and
ask you why or where's this coming from. So I'm
(15:06):
not I'm not built like that. I'm not built to hate.
I'm not a hateful guy. I'm not a I come
with love. I think if anybody in here has had
encounters with me, I don't come with the bull junk.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I come with the peace and the joy.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Now, when you show me where you stand, I might
have to change that a little bit. So I'm not
going to match your ignorance.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Ah, Yes, I do like the Bruce Lee a bullshit.
We'll see Bruce Lee a b B bull junk. Yeah,
he's that. That is a like I said, I don't
understand why he doesn't want to take questions from a
guy when there's a guy who can just throw out
(15:51):
the most masterful plate of words salad ever where you're like, wait,
what did.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
He just say?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
He just said nothing affects him. Well, if nothing of
then why do you care about taking questions from a guy?
It's all very confusing. Maybe Nick Coke can make sense
and it can make sense of as he joins us
with an update, Nick, what he got.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
All right, Doug, Yeah, I can't make too much sense
of that with the I just think I think it's
so soft to go this far with these press things
he could tell. It really bothers them. And I feel
like in college football, as much as any other sport,
teams can take on the mentality of a head coach,
and you look at a lot of the successful head coaches,
(16:34):
like like Nick Saban would find a way to not
make this more of a thing.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I just I just feel like it's really soft and
it overshadows some of the things I think Dion does
that are admirable. I saw this today that he's got
some players on the team who have children, and he
partnered with a local bank to get some money in
their accounts for their kids and help set their kids
up for a future. I think that's awesome and really
(17:01):
cool that Dion does that, But no one's talking about that.
They're talking about him barring the co or barring the
calmness from asking questions. And I just think Dion hurts
himself with this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Our guy
Dan Doc has joined us. Of course, you can see
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of course longtime college basketball analysts and now radio host
and that host of Don't at Me, Danny, what are
(17:36):
your thoughts on Dion versus a Denver Post columnist.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I love it. I mean I love it. Look, you're
gonna you'll know this very quickly when you get into coaching.
When I got into coaching, I thought all this stuff mattered.
Guy hel Bowling, Green has the stroke center. I got
Kermstrow to give the donation the court. I got the
guy to give the court donation, graduated every players, and
(18:03):
none of it matters. The only thing that matters is winning.
I heard your guy saying, well, we're not talking about
Dion's helping kids. Who cares? I mean, I swear to
got five fundraisers during the year. The only thing that
matters is if you win. And I don't have any problem,
and you probably won't have any problem. It probably haven't
with people coming at you. But eventually, as a coach
(18:26):
you get tired of personal attacks. And I saw what
that guy wrote, and it's personal. And you know what
great I've always said this middle aged white guys with
pizza stains all over them, These media guys, they hate
being held accountable. They hate it more than we had
one here Doyle. Greg Doyle is banned basically a restraining
order on him for his creepiness towards Caitlin Clark, the WNBA,
(18:50):
the Indie Star, and then the Indie Fever banned him
from covering games. I like what they did at Colorade.
It's all right. You want to be critical, that's great,
but don't get personal. Don't make it every time. And
if there is no one's saying you can't write about it,
you just you know, not gonna take questions. I think
it's great, but ultimately, none of it, Doug, none of
(19:11):
it matters. You lose the North Dakota State, people are
gonna crush you. Whether you ban the reporter, you didn't,
you beat North Dakota State, you keep winning, everybody's gonna
love you. That is the reality of coaching today. So
much ado about nothing, But I ain't mad at him
for doing it.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
No, well I am, And just because the thing I
like about the thing I like about about Dion's deal
I mean about the reporter is he showed up to
the press conference. You know, the criticism a lot of
athletes and coaches have is you have guys writing about
(19:47):
things and they spend zero time actually at the facility
and they won't own their words. And of all guys,
Dan who can handle himself with the media and can
can can clap back if you will. Well, I mean,
the best thing Dion does is he's an orator. It's
almost preacher like. It's amazing on how he can put
(20:07):
sentences together. Why would he be Why would he shy
away from a couple of critical questions just because the
guy went he felt like personal.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Because of what you just said ego. You know, look,
I don't need to hear this from you. I mean,
you want to criticize me, great, but I'm done with you.
See if people get credit, and I mean that is
always what you just said fascinates me. People get credit
because they show up. Okay, I mean, what are you
supposed to do. It's your job. You know you're not
supposed to show up. You're supposed to be afraid to
(20:39):
show up. I'm with you on Dion, and he is
unbelievable with it. He could bury that guy every single
time the guy asked him a question. In some ways,
he's actually doing the guy a favor, but I like it. Look,
you know, well, listen, you can do your job. We're
not hurting you, but we're just we're just not going
to acknowledge you asking football questions because frankly, the guy
(21:02):
has gone after Dion non football. You know, he's going
after him personal. So you know, people say, well, Dion soft, well,
I mean, Deon Sanders ain't soft. He may be a
lot of things. You may not like him, but he
ain't so well. I think skin Yeah, I don't think so.
I just think at some point you just get set
up and you're like, look, Jack asked, I'm not dealing
(21:24):
with you anymore. I mean I could go negative on you.
I could rip you, and Dion certainly could. Hell, all
you got to do is call him a racist. You
know how this goes in this day and age. I'll
dm got to say as well, this middle aged white
dudes's racist, and everybody will jump on that, just like
they did last year when anybody that criticized Deon Sanders
was referred to as racist. So he could have done that,
(21:46):
but I think they chose the pass of actually least
resistance by saying, look, you had, you take your shots. Great,
here's the accountability for that from our standpoint, and then
we move then we move along that that. You know,
I get what you're saying, totally understand it. But from
my standpoint, it's like, man, we're here at a football
(22:08):
press conference. You want to call me these names. That
ain't what we're here for, and we're not acknowledging. Good
luck to you, good luck to us. You'll have your say,
we'll have our say, and that's just a matter of
whether we're going to win or lose.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Stug gottleibp Shure here on Fox Sports Tradio. My good
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how much does Florida State losing the first game of
the season hurt from the hurt the validity of last
year's undefeated season.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I've ever believed that it does. You know, every team
is organic, Every team is different. Hell, every team is
different from the start of the year till the end
of the year. Doug, I'm not one of those that
thinks it does. Others may have a different opinion. You know,
you got a new quarterback in there. You got a
quarterback that you know, he's on his third school, the
(22:58):
Travis kid. Know, I don't know whether he transferred not,
but he seemed like to be the guy that was
ingrained last year as the true leader. I'm not one
of those. You know, we we didn't have a great
year my freshman year year after Indiana won national championship,
and I don't think that reflected on anything. You know,
but maybe that's not the right analogy. But I've always
(23:20):
thought each year is different. I'm actually you know, I've
always thought that, you know, each season is different from
the start of the season. You look back as the
season goes along, you're like, man, why were we so
good then? Or you look back and you go, man,
we're so much better now because of this. I just
don't put my stock into it, Doug, I really don't.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I mean, I'm I don't think there's anything to it,
but I do think perception. Perception makes it, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Sure, I mean everybody everybody's looking to say, see I
told you so one way or the other. Right, Like,
let's say anyone by a by a and you know,
Dju was really good. You know what it would be? Well,
see how good we are. We can be good with everybody,
and Clemson you screwed up. Look how good he is.
Everybody wants to do that. I guess maybe I'm still
just looking at it from a coaching perspective or maybe
(24:13):
a player perspective. I just don't don't put it one
for the other from a media or maybe from a
fan perspective. Sure, I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Saban left Alabama in pretty good shape. When coach Night
got fired from Indiana, it was wasn't great, it wasn't
like peak of it. But still there is the same
parallel of replacing an absolute legend. How hard is that
going to be at Alabama?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
You know, Doug, it's interesting you bring up the Indiana thing.
Because I've brought that up too. You still got it.
Mike Davis has talked about this. You still got the
Bob Knight discipline in the program. You still got the
Bob Knight impact for a year or two. You know,
you talked to Dane five for hornsby guys that played
when they went in twenty twenty two thousand and two.
Excuse me, you know there was still a lot of
(25:01):
Bob Knight there. And the same thing with Saban. There's
still a lot of Saban there. Yeah, he's not there,
but there's still the discipline in place of the players. Uh,
there's still the Hey, look, this is how we go
about our business. Even though maybe it's changed. It is
really difficult from a from a standpoint. You know, they
(25:21):
always say you want to be the guy that follows
the guy that follows the guy or whatever it is, right,
but there's still that influence. And you know, once Mike
Davis's influence took over. I hate to say this because
I really like my program went downhill. We've seen that
a lot of times a year or two, the team
goes well, replacing a legend, and then does it go south.
That's why I'm interested in what John Shire does coming
(25:44):
up here as we move this along replacing Krzyzewski.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, look, yeah, you get that, you get that. My
dad used to say, you get that one year buffer, right,
that one year buffer still have you still have the
discipline and then yeah, that it wears off. It's like
you'll get that, I think from the Newingam Patriots, Right,
you'll get one you're a buffer from the from and
you'll have a little bit more of excitement because there's
a little bit more freedom. Yeah, but what happens is
(26:08):
after that then too much freedom, not enough discipline, depends
on swings too much the other way, and that's why
it becomes kind of a disaster.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
You are you are one of the only guys in
the media that I'll understand that, I swear to God.
Most people will immediately say you can't be the guy
to follow the guy, and that's not true. Other people say,
not understanding. Well, this is a completely new thing. And
look how energized players are. They get to have music,
proud whatever it is. But the fact of the matter is,
(26:36):
you know, after that, I would actually go maybe too.
You get particularly with a hype with a big time
personalities like we're talking about. But I will say this
that ways off and now it's yours and what you
do with it, you do with it. And look, but
here's the one thing that doesn't change, because the expectations.
You know, per Alabama, you got Milrod there as a
(26:56):
quarterback who's been there. He's been through every single situation.
He's made great plays, he's been ripped. And so the
expectations of what Nick Saban did and what can suffocate you.
The expectations of what Bob Knight did. Obviously for those
of us that are a little bit older, you know,
the of what John Wooden does. Some people will say
still haunts that program. You know, I don't know, but
(27:17):
I do know this. Let's talk about Duke. Duke needs
to get to a final four under shire Shire's records. Great,
but that's what they need to do. Why because that's
what they did under the previous guy. So, Doug, I
don't I swear to god, I'm not kissing your ass.
You're on the few guys because you played and obviously
coaching you know that gets that. Most people will go
(27:38):
the easy route. Oh, it's impossible to be the guy
that follows a guy. Oh you know what, you can't
do this, no no no no no. You get a buffer,
you get the discipline, and you see what happens with
it a year or two from now, depending on what
you know, how long it lingers.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
He's the one and only Dan Doccas. Check out his
daily show. It's called Don't at Me. It's on out
Kick the Best Man. Have a good one.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Thank hey, Doug. Love talking to you, brothers.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
See you anytime. Dan doc is joining us on the
Doug Outler Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
See.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
He had a completely different perspective and and Jay, Dude,
that's one that you share with me, Like everybody has
a limit. Prime was pushed to his limb. He's like,
you know, I'm just not gonna take calls. I'm gonna
take take questions from you. You know. My point is
that is that this is the actual specialty. Like that
would be like me not taking questions from somebody because
they're too negative about me. Like again, there are things
(28:31):
that I'm I don't think anyone expects of me in
year one, but I think people expect me to handle
the media better than most because I've been on the
other side of the microphone.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Were you guys like nineties WWF wrestling fans? Like when
I was a kid?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I was.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I've never been in the WWE, but WWF back in
the day, my dad was super into. Do you see
sid Vicious died sixty three thatt with cancer sex pistols? No, no, no,
like Sid Vicious the wrestler.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Who am I thinking of someone else?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Sex pistols? Sid Vicious also got the call a long
time ago lead singer. But this is Sidus the wrestler.
You gotta be a WWF guy, which none of you
guys are. Let's get to a game.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show, all right, Doug.
Today's game is big deal, little deal, no deal? All right, Doug.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
We'll start in baseball, big deal, little deal or no deal.
That Red Sox catcher Danny Janssen became the first player
in Major League history to play for both teams in
the same game.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Okay, So Jason explained this to me as we were
taping the pot and I was so confused by it.
So the deal was this was a continued game.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yep, this was previously Yeah, it was in late June
and it got rained out, so they had scheduled at
the time to make it up today. Jansen was in
the Blue Jays lineup as a catcher back in late June,
and between then and now he got traded to the
Red Sox, and so he was putting the lineup today.
His spot was actually up for Toronto when the game resumed.
(30:30):
They obviously had to pinch hit for him, so he
was behind the plate catching when his spot in the
lineup was up for Toronto, and so he technically becomes
a first player to play in the same game with
both teams in the.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
History at Baseball of one hundred years, where they've stay
stated everything that he's the first.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Player major league history is the specific designation I read.
Who knows how this happened in the minors somewhere, guys
moving around, but yes, major league history.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
That's crazy. How big a deal is That's a big deal.
Baseball has been played for a long time. That's the
first time it's ever happened. That's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
All right, we got some more baseball to throw at you,
big deal. Little deal, no deal that Shoho Tani became
the sixth player to record forty home runs and forty
steals in the same season.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
How big a deal is it? I think it's huge.
He's got it. We were tracking this. He still got
a shot at at forty five. Forty five is not
out of the question. Fifty fifty is not out of
the question either.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Got another month.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, and this is his first year in the National League. Granted,
National League is essentially the same as American League now,
but also he's still and you saw it three. He
threw up the mountain the other day as well, so
he's rehabbing an injury while performing this. Well, that's a
big deal.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Do you think the pitch clock in the new rules
over the last couple of years any devaluing of a
forty one forty season at all? We saw it last
year with Ronald Lacuna Junior. Previous to that, we hadn't
seen it in a long time, nearly two decades.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Well. Also, the bigger basis right allowed for stolen bases
to be easier. Sure, sure, that's why it's really hard
to compare eras you know, when the rules change so steadily. Yeah,
I think there's something evaluation of it.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal. That
Aaron Judge reached the fifty home run mark for the
third time in his career over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I think that's a big deal. I just do.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Is.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
You know, I don't think anybody's going to pass Barry
Bonds steroid mark. But the fact that here's a guy
who's going to be right there near sixty multiple times
in his career, you can't. That's That's a modern day
marvel is the ability to be consistent at that level
hitting home runs.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Every home run he's hit lately too, right off the bat,
you know it's gone there, just absolutely no doubt.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
It is no doubt crushing.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
All right, let's go to the NFL. Big deal, little
deal or no deal that Gerrod Mayo says Drake May
is outplaying Jacoby Brissett, But Mayo says there are other
factors to consider in naming a starter, including Brissette's experience
and the player's entire body of work throughout the off season,
kind of hedging things here.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
He was there earlier. Yeah, I mean, I think they
feel like if Drake may doesn't play well, taking him
out is hard, then putting him back in as even
hardro whereas if you start Jacoby Brizette, taking Jacob Brissette
out is not that hard. So I think that's the thinking.
How big a deal is it that he's out playing him,
whether the coach is saying he's out playing him, that's
a big deal.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
It's a big deal, big deal, little deal, no deal
that with Cede Lamb's holdout over, he becomes the second
highest paid receiver in the league by average annual value
thirty four million a year for Cede Lamb, just short
of Justin Jefferson's thirty five million per year.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's a big deal. It's a big deal on both sides.
Big deal for the Cowboys they didn't have to make
him the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL. Big
deal for Ceedee Lamb that he got paid, that his
you know, his holdout hold in seemed to work. And
big deal for the Cowboys that now they only have
two star players quarterback and Michael Parsons, who feel like
they need new deals. Parsons probably hasked to wait a
while and we'll see if they make If they make
(34:24):
the quarterback wait as well.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Big deal.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Little deal, no deal that the Chiefs have reportedly agreed
to contract terms with receiver Juju Smith Schuster after he
was cut by the Patriots earlier this month.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
It feels like a little deal. What it feels like
is it feels like there's they know that there's this
substantial amount of punishment coming towards what's his name, the
wide receiver had gotten Rashia Rice and Rashet Rice. This
just protection from Rashie Rice. Otherwise, you know, he knows
the system. He'll be fine, but he's nowhere near. I
(35:04):
mean they they were fine letting him walk out the
door by trading him. This is just a stop gap
wall where she rises suspended.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Big deal, little deal or no deal that Mid Major
Madness picked Green Bay second to last in their Horizon
League preseason pool.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I'll say it's a little deal. I mean it's good.
It's great for us, great for us, Like what do
big expectations do for me and for my program? Nothing?
Whereas if you pick us down near the bottom. We
finished another But I'm like, ah, look, nobody thought would
be any good. And if we do any better than that,
(35:45):
like say you thought we're gonna suck, you want to
know the truth, Nick, we got no I think we'll
be pretty good. I got no idea how good. I
think they coaching this league are really good and most
teams have all new teams. So Green Bay is gonna
have a good team this year, right he I mean, yeah,
(36:05):
there you go, and that's game time.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
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Speaker 2 (36:16):
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(36:58):
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