October 17, 2024 • 37 mins
On this version of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday!", Jason Stewart takes Doug and the guys through the sports year of 2016. Doug welcomes college football analyst and former NFL quarterback Danny Kanell onto the show to discuss the weekend of college football. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".
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m Danny Cannell will join us twenty five after the hour.
We will not talk about Florida State football. Right, We'll
not talk about Florida State football or Oklahoma State football. That's
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my deal with Danny. Don't talk about my own monter,
I won't talk about yours. We'll just pretend like these
disastrous seasons don't occur. But you know what will occur.
Every Thursday we give the reins to Unfortunately, Jason Stewart,
who throws it back for us?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Jase, do.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
You don't call it a throwback?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Thursday, Doug, Tonight, the Broncos are going to New Orleans
to play the Saints. It is Sean Payton's return to
New Orleans. Now, the Saints and Broncos have not played
each other much over the years, so I guess the
stat isn't that impressive. But the Broncos have never lost
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in New Orleans. They've never lost, which is interesting. And
it takes a little bit of searching to find any
notable games in the history, but I found one. Doug.
Let's go back eight years. Just think of how crazy
November of twenty sixteen was. Think about who was elected
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president in the November of twenty sixteen, and then think
about nine days later, nine days later when the Broncos
were at the Saints and it was a hummed Doug.
It was a humdinggger. Holy Broncos won twenty five to
twenty three. Neither team were that good that year. Trevor Simeon.
(02:14):
Simeon had a good night. He led the Broncos over
the over drew Breeses Saints. I think the Broncos finished
two games under five hundred. Saints finished two games over,
so that wasn't significant, but the way the year played out,
that was Matt Ryan's MVP season. Matt Ryan led his
Falcons to the Patriots eventually, and the Patriots would win,
coming back from twenty seven to three. The rest is history.
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But when we think about twenty sixteen, and as I
alluded to election year, just a crazy year and the
Broncos beat the Saints on that night, what else comes
to mind? Dan Bayer, The twenty sixteen season was the
season of one Matt Ryan, and it's really the only
case that you can make for him to be a
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Pro Football Hall of Famer. The Falcons just I don't
know if it was lightning in a bottle, if it
was Kyle Shanahan, but the Falcons season that year of
them not being the Falcons of old, and honestly, even
after that season now that we look back, it was
just a different Falcons team that year, and it was
because they had good teams in the past. We had
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seen a couple of years prior they were pretty good
at home field advantage, but this one they were just
boat raising everybody and did throughout the playoffs. But Yeah,
the Falcons in twenty sixteen stood out to me in
the National Football It's interesting because you whenever there it's
like a mandatory thing nowadays that when a team goes
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to the Super Bowl and loses, talk radio and debate
shows and everything the next day always say that the
losing team will be back.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Oh yeah, it's so young and sad.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And outside of outside of the Patriots and once upon
down the Chiefs, they're never.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Back, never back, They're never back. So the Falcons were
a great example of that, and they had some heartbreak earlier.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
They lost four years earlier to the Niners in the
NFC championship game. Remember there's Tony Gonzalez. He finally won
a playoff game and they beat Seattle, but then they
lost in the Niners. And this one was just like
all right, Seattle kicked them out the door. All right, Packers,
see you later, and then uh then we know what happened.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
But that season they were just really really good.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That was also the year that the Cubs won the
World Series.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Right. Yeah, No, they were going to come back from
r too, because they were so young and so dynamic
that they were going to go back and they were
gonna started.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That was the classic start of a dynasty.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Talk that was it?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
That was it won and done.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Remember they almost lost in that World Series? Like that
was I was hoping for that to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You say they were the Indians or they're the former Guardians.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
No, we canna say they were the Indians. They were
actually they were Actually?
Speaker 7 (04:52):
Yeah, what a season?
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I mean, cheez I mentioned it in the uh I
feel a draft, the Calves knocking off the Warriors in
that twenty sixteen campaign, Like, what a year for championships?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
That was the year of the rundown block.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yes, Chase Down Black Camp.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Wow, what a year I'm sorry, Chase Down that was called.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
That was also the year that Chris Jenkins hit the
jump shot to win the NCAA Championship.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
This show is going full circle. This is amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Oh, you had all kinds of stuff that year. What
about music, Chase dou.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
It's funny you asked, Doug Because I don't know about
you guys, but this was an earworm for most of
twenty sixteen. For me, it goes something like this, go
serve me?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And so did you guys know why I hung it?
One night when I hung out. I think it was
the next final four. The next year was in Arizona.
It was with Air Rodgers and these guys.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It was like one of those weird like what'd you tonight?
It was me and my buddy.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Who is it? Uh Stanton? Uh?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
That was Shane Stanton. Shout out to Shane. He's working
too hard.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
But Shane and I would, I hope because you forgot
his name for about ten seconds, Doug.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
No, I I know.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I like all their boys. Yeah, well like Reed is
a giant, he's like six to two and anyway, so, uh,
Shane Stanton and I we I go, Shane, I'm doing
this thing for Coca Cola, and I said, I think
Aaron Rodgers we might hang out with him.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I'm in so then.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
All of a sudden, Aaron's like, hey, uh, do you
want to hang out with the chainsmokers?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I was like, I yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And next thing I know, We're going bar hopping in
Scottsdale with Aaron Rodgers, the chain smokers, and me and
my buddy Shane.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Wow. Yeah, Now I don't want to hang out with
chain smokers, but I would like to hang out with
the chain smoker.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
The chain smokers.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
Yeah, that that name ru rubs me the wrong way
a little bit. It's just yeah, chain smoking. You just
smell bad. You're bringing on death prematurely. I just don't care.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
If you'd a chain smoker's tribute band, would it be
second hand smoke? Would that be the A's It's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
No, sa as, you were not listening to the chain smokers.
In twenty sixteen, what do you remember most.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
Well, definitely remember Hillary versus Trump.
Speaker 8 (07:40):
But I'll give you a little snippet of this year
and Hawkeye football history. I was started the year getting upset.
What No, don't know what. I'm sorry, Yeah, go ahead,
don't do it.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
No, no, this is this is.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
Good, good and bad. So it's good.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
No, it's all bad.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
But no it's not.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
You haven't even to let me talk, Okay, okay. So
they got up set at home by North Dakota State.
Later in the year, though, they would upset undefeated number
three Michigan at home fourteen to thirteen in a wild game.
And that's your snippet it Hawkeye football history twenty sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I'd liked rogue one that was twenty sixteen. I could
be your loan. I liked Rogue one a lot.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
So that was also a year that was pretty controversial
for the college football Playoff, I know because Ohio State
was involved in it and they ended up getting crushed
by Clemson, but their only loss was on the road
to a Penn State team where Urban Meyer and the
Buck guys elected to kick what was like a forty
five yard field goal. Really wasn't one of their strengths.
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Tough stadium to kick October, not the greatest effort, and
it ended up getting blocked in return for a touchdown,
but they lost by three to Penn State. Was their
only loss at the time entering what was then the playoff,
and Penn State had a couple of losses, but they
had that win against Ohio State and ended up representing
the Big Ten and then the championship game that year
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for the Big Ten. But Ohio State ended up making
the playoff that year because of the early losses that
Penn State had.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Who were the final four?
Speaker 5 (09:12):
That was Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Washington.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
A lot of the usual suspects.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Yes, you guys want to know what happened in golf
that year unless you had any more sure thing. So
what was unique about that season was the twenty sixteen
Open Championship was probably the standout event because of the
showdown that you had with Phil Mickelson and Henrik Stenson
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just pulling away at Royal Troon and it was basically
match play for the final final eighteen holes of that championship.
I did have to look up the ending spread. Stenson
finished at twenty under part of win pulled away after
a final round sixty three. Mickelson shot seventeen under par
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for the championship. Third place was JB. Holmes, he shot
six under. He was eleven shots back of Mickelson. So
when you think of Phil Mickelson's career and you think
of all the near misses that he had at US
Opens and what could have been, this is another He
was eleven shots clear of third place. He just happened
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to be playing in the same tournament that Henrik Stenson
was playing that week, and Stenson was just as out
of his mind as Mickelson was. But that that was
the big news in golf. And also that year it
was an Olympic year. Yeah, that Justin Rose won the
Golden Golf but because of the Olympics, the PGA Championship
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had to be moved up because of the conflict, so
they played it just like a week or so after
the Open Championship. Wasn't back to back weeks, there was
a week separating. Jimmy Walker ended up winning at Baltus
role that year. He was dynamite, but it was kind
of lost in the shuffle and then kind of what
fueled the PGA Championship or help fuel the PGA Championship
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moving to the spring, because now with golf in the
Olympics every four years, you were likely to have a
conflict either with the Open Championship or with the PGA.
The PGA ended up moving out and moving to May.
But that was in twenty sixteen. Danny Willett won the Masters.
Dustin Johnson ended up winning the US Open that year.
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But that's your year in golf. You know who's a
good golfer. Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gostling starred in the movie
of the Year musical La La Land about this city
that we live in. Emma Stone never seen it, never
saw it. No, it's pretty good, not bad. And if
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you remember right, if you flash forward to the oscars
of this movie year, Walla Land was spoken spoken to
win the Best Picture and then remember they gave them
the wrong card, read Warren Baty, and it was actually
Moon White. Moonwhite won the year a movie that nobody saw,
so La La Land a lot of people saw, and
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the Moon White nobody saw. So that was that was
a part of that movie year. Do you guys remember
Stranger Things started twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
To Ben, I didn't know it was that long ago.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I know it's I watched it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I'm going to say like I watched it last year
the year before, and I was I don't like scary things,
and that scared me.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But I found a way to hold my own hand
and make it through.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
If you think about it, I think they're starting their
final season. They're going to release it here maybe in
the early twenty twenty five, and it's been what six seasons,
But you're right, it doesn't seem that far back, especially
since all the main cast members were like twelve and
thirteen years old, so they've had to grow on the
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on the show, which is crazy. But yeah, twenty sixteen,
so much happened that year. It's just amazing just going
back and checking all this out. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
It is crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Also true and that is don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Don't call it a throwback. Throw Back Thursday, It's.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
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Speaker 1 (13:31):
It's Doug gotlab Show, Fox Sports Radio. I thought this
was funny. This is Drew Brees tonight. Of course, Drew
Brees is going to be inducted into these Saints Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Here's Drew Brees.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
He just wants to do a simple cheer at halftime.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Drew Brees.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Here.
Speaker 9 (13:46):
We have been able to experience some incredible things together
in the Superdome over the last eighteen years. But Thursday,
game Day against the Broncos at halftime, to do.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Something that's never been done before.
Speaker 9 (14:02):
We are going to break out a chant that I
know all of you know, but we are gonna do
it as one in the Dome together.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It's gonna go like this.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
I'm gonna grab that microphone, I'm gonna look around and
I'm just.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Gonna say one. You say two win? Are you three?
Four win?
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Some more.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Five six win for kicks, seven eight win it's great,
nine ten, win again, win again, win again, when again?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
You know what time it is.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
It's time to get a new cheer, is what I think.
That's that's the time, Dug.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I think the kids say cringe. So what they say?
Speaker 7 (14:50):
Guys? I thought there would be no math?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Wait did he say one or three?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Here?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Stop talking? Bruise talking the one and then two and
then three?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Four?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I thought it was off the floor. Five six was
pickup sticks.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
The Minnesota Vikings do their skull chant, which is relatively
new and it works really well. You know why because
it's one word, it's one syllable. Yeah, this has multiple lines,
back and forth, participation, yeah, remembering, and the speed and
the cadence changes. This is gonna be a debacle. I
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hope they don't cut away at halftime because it's just
going to be a rumbling mess.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Uh well, I don't think they'll cut away at half time.
It's on Amazon, right, so they even need to go
to ads, so they'll they'll show this thing. It's the
Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I hope
you're having a great day. The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast
live from the tyreq dot com studios and joining us
on behalf of bet online is none other than Danny Knell,
(16:03):
of course, former start at Florida State and NFL starting
quarterback as well longtime football analyst and talk show host.
And we start with a general agreement. I agree to
not ask you about Florida State. You agree that asked
me at Oklahoma State.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
We did. We good.
Speaker 10 (16:17):
That sounds like a perfect deal because the season has
not been kind to either one of us. Although you
guys at least had a nice win against Arkansas, like,
you guys at least had some enjoyment. I didn't get
anything like I got one win over Cow that was ugly,
Like at least you guys had that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, but I don't know how many wins are out
there the rest of the year. That's the part. But well,
let's again, let's not dwell. We made an agreement. Let's
move on. Was surprised Florida didn't go.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
For two, right.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Why you're playing Tennessee, you're on the road end of
the game. Go for two right?
Speaker 10 (16:51):
Absolutely, And unfortunately, I think for Billy Napier it might
be a decision that ultimately ends up to be his demise, right,
I mean he was already on the hot seat. Like
that's what kind of comes back to driving me nuts,
Like what do you have to lose your Florida? Your
season has not been the way you're supposed to. You
were a heavy underdog, as you mentioned, you're on the
road like you're playing, and so also when you're that underdog,
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like you're the less talented team like that has made
more mistakes throughout the season, and then you're going to
play extended time with more plays, why not just make
it one play where you can dictate the outcome, go up,
dial up your best play, and go for the win.
I totally agree with you, and I'll actually say something
else because Purdue did it against Illinois. They tried and
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ended up coming up short and losing. But I actually
come away feeling more respect for Ryan Walters and him
actually trying to do it again a place where they're
in the game. Illinois was a much better team. He
goes for two, comes up short. But you know what,
I'd rather leave it all out there and try it
on one play than try to take it to overtime
and extended time and more periods and more plays when
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the better team is probably gonna win when you give
him that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Steuc Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of the one and only Danny Knell who joined us.
It looks like they've closed up that loophole. But the
organ play kind of genius, wasn't it.
Speaker 10 (18:19):
It really was? And you know, there was a lot
of debate early, like I'm talking immediate aftermath because Warren Sharp,
you know, he's a great football follow on X He's
always breaking down stuff. He almost within an hour after
the game was like, look at this genius. And I
got to admit Doug. At first, I was like, there's
no way, Like, there's no way he thought of this.
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But then we also we've heard from Dan Lanning. But
then if you think about the situation, the fact that
he had it was coming out of a timeout, So like,
if there's ever a time where you would not you'd
have things buttoned up, you've got your right personnel out there,
your personal group, your personnel groupings, it would be after
a time out. And that's what Dan Lanning actually alluded
to when he when he was asked about this, he
said yeah, we discussed this in the time out. It
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is the difference in like being a great coach and
being a good coach, And I think Dan Lanning is
a great coach. He's one of the more innovative, cutting
edge minds as far as the analytical approach and when
to go forward on fourth down. He's always been aggressive
and if you remember last year against Washington, he got
burned on it and a lot of people were criticizing
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him for his aggressive tactics and for using those the
data and when to go for it and saying, oh,
you got to take those points there, and it cost
him a game. So I was really happy for him
to kind of be able to showcase that, you know what,
it's sort of like being at the blackjack table when
you look at analytics. You know, some people don't feel
comfortable hitting on sixteen if the dealer has two faces,
you know, twenty showing, but you kind of have to
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and sometimes you might bust out and be like, oh,
I wish I wouldn't have done that, but you kind
of have to because the more times you do it,
the more times are there work in your favor. So
I was really happy for Dan Lanning. He is a
phenomenal coach. He's still young. Oregon locked him up because
I do I think he was about you know, could
have gone to Alabama, could have had any other job
out there, and Oregon locked him up with a massive
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payday that I think was well worth it. I think
you're starting to see the dividends of that payoff, no.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Question about it. Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
let me let me ask you about Georgia Texas this week.
What are your thoughts on the matchup against the Horns
for the Dogs.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
I think, I actually think it's a pretty good matchup
if they can protect Carson Beck. I think Texas is
one weakness on the defensive side of the ball, because
they have a really good front seven. Is the secondary.
I do think they're gettable, and they haven't exactly gone
against a gauntlet of quarterbacks who strike a lot of
fear in you. And that includes two of our big
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signature wins. Right when they played in Michigan on the road.
That looks like an awesome win, and it was. It
shouldn't take away from it, but the quarterback they faced,
Davis Warren, really struggled. He's not you know that was
two quarterbacks to go for Michigan. They've since benched him.
He finishes out the year before he gets benched two touchdowns,
six interceptions, and then against Oklahoma they were able to
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completely shut down Oklahoma's offense, but Oklahoma was without five
wide receivers and a quarterback making his second start in
Michael Hawkins Junior. So I think this will be Texas's
biggest matchup yet for their secondary to have to stop.
And I do look at these quarterbacks, both of them
Doug and they're both probably buying potentially for who is
the first quarterback off the board. Chaanor Sanders might have
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something to say about that as well. But if these
quarterbacks shine in this moment, it might come down to
who plays better in this game. And trust me, we
might see it again in the SEC Championship game. So
it might not be finished, but I do think this
could put one guy ahead. As far as the NFL
scouts think, I think it's going to be awesome. I
do think there's value on Georgia. I feel like people
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are kind of down on Georgia. They didn't look great
in the first half against Alabama last week. They gave
up thirty one points the Mississippi State, who's not very good,
you know, and so everyone's kind of down on Georgia
and everybody's great on Texas, like, look how great they are.
They're number one, and they look awesome and they've done
everything they needed to do. But also just knowing experience wise,
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when this happens, I think the value is on the
underdog here. Five points is a lot for texastacks them
to win by a touchdown or more. I think you
could see a very similar game to what we saw
Oregon Ohio State, two heavyweights going toe to toe that
comes down to the wire to a field goal. So
I actually think the values on Georgia.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Okay, now let's let's go to Alabama taking on Tennessee.
What's going on with Alabama? Right, looks so good in
the first half against Georgia and then hold on for
dear life and then lose, lose to and Andy and
they need a lot to beat South Carolina. It's on you.
Speaker 10 (22:47):
It's interesting, isn't it crazy? How quickly you know you
can go from the penthouse to the outhouse. You know,
that feels like what's happened to Kaylin Debor the head
coach Obama because when they beat Georgia and I know
they've the lead and they almost you know, lost the
game when they beat Georgia, Jalen Nolroe is the Heisan
Trophy favorite. Ryan Williams was the best, you know, true
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freshman we've ever seen in history, and he might be.
And Kaylen de Bor was like, they're going to be
the next Nick Saban, Like how many titles are you
going to win? And here we are just a few
weeks removed, and all how quickly the conversation has changed.
Now we're worried about what Kaylen de Bor is wearing
on the sideline. Now it's you know, the defense has
massive holes, and all of a sudden, there's all this
heat and pressure on Kayln de boor. I think this
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is kind of normal. I think what you're seeing is
a program that wasn't as talent rich even last year
with Nick Saban. It was an unbelievable coaching job that
Saban did last year getting them to the playoffs, but
they weren't as dominant as they had been maybe four
or five years previous, prior to nil and the portal.
So now all of a sudden there's a little bit
closer talent. Then on the defensive side of the ball,
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that's where I do think there's a weakness in the coaching.
Caine Walmick takes over. He's still a younger coach who's
still kind of figuring out thing he's you know, calling
these defenses, and I think they've struggled to adjust in game.
And one of the things that you know that has
been noticeable is their lack of really adjusting in game.
So the opposing offenses are figuring out what they're running
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and then they're exploiting it, and they're not making those
necessary adjustments either with substitutions or with different coverages, and
they've got to be quicker in that sense. But the
good news for Bama's secondary and their further defense is
they're facing Tennessee, who is typically a high powered offense
who's throwing it all over the place. They've been struggling
to put up points themselves. So I think that's the
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matchup that determines the outcome of the game, is Tennessee's
offense versus Alabama's secondary. Who wins that battle, like who
fixes their issues first will probably determine the outcome.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It's stug Gotlig show here on Fox Sports Radio. I
do want to circle back to the organ Oahause State game.
Ryan Day was a hand chosen successor right of Urban Meyer,
but he has struggled against some of the top ranked teams.
They've played how long you know, look at close game,
very good football game, but how long do we think
the leash is for Ryan Day? After a lot of
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people were upset over low last year, finished losing once
again to Michigan.
Speaker 10 (25:11):
It's so interesting because I think it's a really you
know this better than anybody like and there's more parody,
I believe, than there's ever been before in college football.
So now coaching becomes that much more of a premium.
Previously five years ago was all about recruiting, like who
was the best recruiters, who could have massed the best talent?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Right?
Speaker 10 (25:30):
I mean that was what really gave you the edge
because you could every time Ohio State has taken the field,
really in most of the games in Ryan Day's tenure,
they've had superior talent ten games out of twelve, eleven
games out of twelve, and then you look at some
of those closer games when all of a sudden you're
facing the team on the other side who has the
exact same talent or maybe you know, slightly better. But
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that's when coaching starts to matter that much more. Look
how they've done. They've in Georgia in the playoffs. They
come up just short, Oregon, they come up just short Michigan.
Last couple of years, they come up short. So those games,
and I know, you look at the overall record, it's like, well,
you're sixty one to nine. You haven't lost that many games.
How could this guy potentially be considered anything less than
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the coach of the next ten years. This is where
I do think coaching matters. And we look at the
decision we were talking about Dan Lanning like that was genius.
This is where I do think Ryan Day needs to
step up and make some better coaching decisions. I think
it was genius to bring in Chip Kelly and bring
in that sort of mind that comes in. I think
the offense has clicked for that reason. But it's those
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these little, tiny situational decisions that are magnified that much more.
And it hasn't been exactly something that gets Ohio State
fans excited. So I think, look, he's not getting fired
anytime soon because he is having so much success. But
they still have Penn State on the road, which they'll
be favored, they probably should win. They're playing Indiana, who
all of a sudden looks a lot better. They're looking
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at Michigan, who's having a down year. Like that to
me is the most pressure pack game, and it doesn't matter.
They probably makes it more pressure packed. If Michigan is
like six and six or seven and five, then you
talk about a must win game. I think Brian Day
needs to make a deep playoff run and potentially, you know,
to the National championship game. I don't think he has
to win it, but I think he has to win
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some meaningful games in order to quiet some of his critics.
I think he will because there is so much talent
on that roster and look how close they were against Oregon.
But if he doesn't, then I think next year he
comes in on the proverbial hot seat, so to speak,
which is crazy, but it's just the landscape of college
football and knowing college football fan bases.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Awesome stuff. Danny Knell. Of course, you can hear Danny
on Sirius Sex Sam. You can see him on CBS
Sports and he joins some behalf of bet online. Danny,
You're the best man. Really appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Always do good catching out man, joy the games.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Let's go to Dan Byer. We have breaking news in
the world of college basketball.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Breaking news from Fox Spord the.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Eve of a brand new season.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Tony Bennett is retiring as the men's basketball coach at Virginia.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Spent fifteen years at the school.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
An official announcement is expected to take place in Charlottesville
late tomorrow morning. Again, Tony Bennett retiring as the men's
basketball coach at Virginia.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And interesting, obviously, I occupy the seat where his dad sat.
His dad, Dick, of course, legendary head coach at Green Bay,
at Wisconsin, at Washington State. He's supposed to join us Monday.
We have a big event, and he told me he
was going to come to town and he was headed
to Charlottesville afterwards. So obviously this strikes a surprised.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Now.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I know what people will say. They'll say, WHOA he
retired twenty days before the start of the season. Something
must be up. There have been a lot of reports,
and again this is not me reporting because I haven't
talked to Tony about it. I just got a text
from him when I got the job and kind of
just let him be. But a lot of reports that
Tony just didn't love, didn't love where college basketball was
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going right when coaches want their guy to get the job.
And we saw this with Dean Smith, we saw it
with Roy Williams. We've seen it with lots of coaches
where they retire right before the season, so there is
no time for a national search. And you know, he
has two associate head coaches. One is Ron Sanchez. Ron
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was fired at Charlotte a year ago, really good coach.
And Jason Woolford, who's another associated coach, a longtime assistant
under under Tony Bennett. My guess would be that he
would do it in an effort to get one of
his guys the job.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
But well, Doug, there's presidents with his dad, Dick. Dick
retired early in citing burnout in Wisconsin in two thousand
and one, so I mean, pretty interesting Wisconsin bo Ryan
did it for Greg Gard too.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, but amazing.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
I think it's burnout. I think it's more burnout than
to what you're saying at the beginning. When you're like, yeah,
maybe this college basketball isn't what it was before.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah, but I think it's burnout over how college basketball is.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Yeah, you know, I agree.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, And and people say, well, like well for you,
well for me, like it's a dream job, Like I
got this is I might have been burnout of my
old of doing it, the old way of doing you know,
travel around the country doing college games. So it's something
new for me. But look, this is there is one
piece of it which we try and pay attention to it,
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but especially at the highest level, it does get lost
is the education piece. Is this it's professional basketball, professional
football for many of these guys, and constantly having to
recruit your own team, let alone another team, and not
having guys grow and evolve like that whole thing is
if you've been doing it one way for twenty five
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years and been crazy successful, and I'm like, yeah, you
gotta do it a different way, you know. Yeah. By
the way, if somebody doesn't like it, they can just
up and leave. Yeah, it's I get it. I understand.
I understand. If I get information, of course I share
it with you.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But I'm just bumped.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
He's a great human being, like one of the few
guys you can go like, yeah, he's a better guy
than me.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
You know what's interesting too, is you named some of
the assistants. Brad Soderberg, who was the one who took
over for Dick Matt when he left when Bennett retired
from Wisconsin. Soderberg is on that staff of Totdy Bennett.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, and Brad is a phenomenal coach. Phenomenal coach who
the best part Brad's thing was they thought he was
too boring, Like, yeah, I don't think you know, he
was successful, not boring.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
But be sure to catch the live edition of The
Dust Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
App Stug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Study news in
the world of college basketball is Tony Bennett. Of course,
one national championship with Virginia announce's retirement. Not sure if
that's the lead story, but let's get to the press
with Dan.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Byer the press.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
It's definitely one of those, Doug. But there is some
other news and we will pay off the tees immediately.
The Cleveland Browns have apparently decided to build a new
stadium in suburban Cleveland for going a plan to renovate
their current stadium in downtown Cleveland. The Browns new two
point four billion dollar dome stadium in brook Park, Ohio,
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would be open in time for the twenty twenty nine season.
This has not come from the Browns, instead the Cleveland
mayor making the announcement today, hours before Game three of
the Guardians Yankees ALCS matchup, but saying that the Haslam
family has decided to not renovate the current stadium that
is downtown and instead will build that dome facility in
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suburban Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Wow, they're going to a dome in Cleveland. Now to
many people, you just sak like, oh okay, well, dome
in Cleveland. Like that means it opens up the window
for them to potentially maybe get a Final Four maybe
unless it's not crazy they have they've had in Detroit.
But that's a wow. Now it's I mean suburban Detroit.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Suburban Cleveland, brook Park, which is southwest suburban Ohio from
suburban Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
That part sucks because it has been you at the flats,
you got cool stuffed in downtown Cleveland, but.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Yakes, you're right next to the rock and roll Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Uh huh.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
But obviously the lakefront and you'd have more area in
a suburban park. But I just I am not a
fan of teams leaving downtown areas.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I just where has it worked well? That's what I guess.
I'm saying my question right, Like the move has been
to go back to downtown's yeah, I'm trying to think
where has it worked well? Minneapolis is a beautiful dome, right,
and downtown Indy right, and downtown Atlanta right, and downtown.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
Washington has been a failure, you know when they left.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
RFK right, and everybody thinks they should move back to
RFK right. Redo that, redo that site.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
It's funny with the Cowboys stated. Not that THEIRS wasn't
in downtown Dallas either, but like there's not like tons
of rave reviews about Arlington, you know, even though that there's.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
There was there was no Arlington Orleavington was just kind
of midway point between Fort Worth and it's not yeah,
and it's not great.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
It's not good for an event either. I can tell you.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
I kind of want to go down the list, like Arizona.
We don't love in Glendale now.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Now Arizona that area has been really well developed, but
it is so the traffic in Phoenix is so bad,
and that city's gotten so big and they haven't planned
well for it. But yes, it's way out there.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
A couple of other football notes.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Doug the Athletics says that the Jets have received some
calls about Mike Williams.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Those came from the Saints, Steelers and Chargers.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
No thanks, no.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Thanks, We're good, good, nice guy, big ride receiver, always hurt, overpaid,
can't get open.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
I mean, the only the only reason it would make
sense is if because he's familiar with the system, but
it's a new system.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Like, yeah, but he is familiar with I mean, like
he doesn't do much anyway, apparently he doesn't do it
right when he does it. But yeah, Mike Williams is fine,
but he and maybe if it's like no cost, like
we'll give you a seventh round pick, that could be
a sixth round pick if that he gets to be
an all pro and and oh yeah, by the way,
you got to pick up all the money. The big
(35:53):
thing with the Jets trade is they picked up all
the money, all of it.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Everybody.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Doug Clippers forward Kawhi Leonard is out indefinitely for the
start of the season because of coomation. Why inflammation in
his right knee is the reason.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
Kawhi.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
That's Kawhi.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
That sucks. I love Kawhi Leonard. I've never thought he's
faking in or soft. I just think he's got a
bum knee.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I do.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
I do love.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
What ESPN in their expansion of this story is this
is done so Kawhi can not only rehab and come
back fully healthy from this injury, that he will not
experience any more.
Speaker 7 (36:29):
Issues with it.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Raw.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Yeah, isn't that what you should do on all injuries?
I don't know, just me.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Game three about to get underway in Cleveland, Yankees and Guardians.
You'll see it on TBS. Came forward between the Dodgers
and Mets and the NLCS on Fox Sports One tonight
eight oh eight Eastern Time, and the Broncos in Saints
kicking off.
Speaker 7 (36:48):
Week seven in New Orleans. Dug, that is the press,
get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show, a's Fox Sports Radio again
News Today. Tony Bennett, head coach of Wisconsin of Wisconsin,
head coach of Virginia announces his retirement.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Ron Sanchez will take over. A longtime right hand man,
of course, was the head coach at Charlotte. I'll post
something on my podcast. It's called All Ball. In the meantime,
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We will not talk about Florida State football. Right, We'll
not talk about Florida State football or Oklahoma State football. That's
(00:45):
my deal with Danny. Don't talk about my own monter,
I won't talk about yours. We'll just pretend like these
disastrous seasons don't occur. But you know what will occur.
Every Thursday we give the reins to Unfortunately, Jason Stewart,
who throws it back for us?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Jase, do.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
You don't call it a throwback?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Thursday, Doug, Tonight, the Broncos are going to New Orleans
to play the Saints. It is Sean Payton's return to
New Orleans. Now, the Saints and Broncos have not played
each other much over the years, so I guess the
stat isn't that impressive. But the Broncos have never lost
(01:25):
in New Orleans. They've never lost, which is interesting. And
it takes a little bit of searching to find any
notable games in the history, but I found one. Doug.
Let's go back eight years. Just think of how crazy
November of twenty sixteen was. Think about who was elected
(01:47):
president in the November of twenty sixteen, and then think
about nine days later, nine days later when the Broncos
were at the Saints and it was a hummed Doug.
It was a humdinggger. Holy Broncos won twenty five to
twenty three. Neither team were that good that year. Trevor Simeon.
(02:14):
Simeon had a good night. He led the Broncos over
the over drew Breeses Saints. I think the Broncos finished
two games under five hundred. Saints finished two games over,
so that wasn't significant, but the way the year played out,
that was Matt Ryan's MVP season. Matt Ryan led his
Falcons to the Patriots eventually, and the Patriots would win,
coming back from twenty seven to three. The rest is history.
(02:37):
But when we think about twenty sixteen, and as I
alluded to election year, just a crazy year and the
Broncos beat the Saints on that night, what else comes
to mind? Dan Bayer, The twenty sixteen season was the
season of one Matt Ryan, and it's really the only
case that you can make for him to be a
(02:59):
Pro Football Hall of Famer. The Falcons just I don't
know if it was lightning in a bottle, if it
was Kyle Shanahan, but the Falcons season that year of
them not being the Falcons of old, and honestly, even
after that season now that we look back, it was
just a different Falcons team that year, and it was
because they had good teams in the past. We had
(03:21):
seen a couple of years prior they were pretty good
at home field advantage, but this one they were just
boat raising everybody and did throughout the playoffs. But Yeah,
the Falcons in twenty sixteen stood out to me in
the National Football It's interesting because you whenever there it's
like a mandatory thing nowadays that when a team goes
(03:41):
to the Super Bowl and loses, talk radio and debate
shows and everything the next day always say that the
losing team will be back.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Oh yeah, it's so young and sad.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And outside of outside of the Patriots and once upon
down the Chiefs, they're never.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Back, never back, They're never back. So the Falcons were
a great example of that, and they had some heartbreak earlier.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
They lost four years earlier to the Niners in the
NFC championship game. Remember there's Tony Gonzalez. He finally won
a playoff game and they beat Seattle, but then they
lost in the Niners. And this one was just like
all right, Seattle kicked them out the door. All right, Packers,
see you later, and then uh then we know what happened.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
But that season they were just really really good.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That was also the year that the Cubs won the
World Series.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Right. Yeah, No, they were going to come back from
r too, because they were so young and so dynamic
that they were going to go back and they were
gonna started.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That was the classic start of a dynasty.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Talk that was it?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
That was it won and done.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Remember they almost lost in that World Series? Like that
was I was hoping for that to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You say they were the Indians or they're the former Guardians.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
No, we canna say they were the Indians. They were
actually they were Actually?
Speaker 7 (04:52):
Yeah, what a season?
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I mean, cheez I mentioned it in the uh I
feel a draft, the Calves knocking off the Warriors in
that twenty sixteen campaign, Like, what a year for championships?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
That was the year of the rundown block.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yes, Chase Down Black Camp.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Wow, what a year I'm sorry, Chase Down that was called.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
That was also the year that Chris Jenkins hit the
jump shot to win the NCAA Championship.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
This show is going full circle. This is amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Oh, you had all kinds of stuff that year. What
about music, Chase dou.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
It's funny you asked, Doug Because I don't know about
you guys, but this was an earworm for most of
twenty sixteen. For me, it goes something like this, go
serve me?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And so did you guys know why I hung it?
One night when I hung out. I think it was
the next final four. The next year was in Arizona.
It was with Air Rodgers and these guys.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It was like one of those weird like what'd you tonight?
It was me and my buddy.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Who is it? Uh Stanton? Uh?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
That was Shane Stanton. Shout out to Shane. He's working
too hard.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
But Shane and I would, I hope because you forgot
his name for about ten seconds, Doug.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
No, I I know.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I like all their boys. Yeah, well like Reed is
a giant, he's like six to two and anyway, so, uh,
Shane Stanton and I we I go, Shane, I'm doing
this thing for Coca Cola, and I said, I think
Aaron Rodgers we might hang out with him.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I'm in so then.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
All of a sudden, Aaron's like, hey, uh, do you
want to hang out with the chainsmokers?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I was like, I yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And next thing I know, We're going bar hopping in
Scottsdale with Aaron Rodgers, the chain smokers, and me and
my buddy Shane.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Wow. Yeah, Now I don't want to hang out with
chain smokers, but I would like to hang out with
the chain smoker.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
The chain smokers.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
Yeah, that that name ru rubs me the wrong way
a little bit. It's just yeah, chain smoking. You just
smell bad. You're bringing on death prematurely. I just don't care.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
If you'd a chain smoker's tribute band, would it be
second hand smoke? Would that be the A's It's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
No, sa as, you were not listening to the chain smokers.
In twenty sixteen, what do you remember most.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
Well, definitely remember Hillary versus Trump.
Speaker 8 (07:40):
But I'll give you a little snippet of this year
and Hawkeye football history. I was started the year getting upset.
What No, don't know what. I'm sorry, Yeah, go ahead,
don't do it.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
No, no, this is this is.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
Good, good and bad. So it's good.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
No, it's all bad.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
But no it's not.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
You haven't even to let me talk, Okay, okay. So
they got up set at home by North Dakota State.
Later in the year, though, they would upset undefeated number
three Michigan at home fourteen to thirteen in a wild game.
And that's your snippet it Hawkeye football history twenty sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I'd liked rogue one that was twenty sixteen. I could
be your loan. I liked Rogue one a lot.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
So that was also a year that was pretty controversial
for the college football Playoff, I know because Ohio State
was involved in it and they ended up getting crushed
by Clemson, but their only loss was on the road
to a Penn State team where Urban Meyer and the
Buck guys elected to kick what was like a forty
five yard field goal. Really wasn't one of their strengths.
(08:40):
Tough stadium to kick October, not the greatest effort, and
it ended up getting blocked in return for a touchdown,
but they lost by three to Penn State. Was their
only loss at the time entering what was then the playoff,
and Penn State had a couple of losses, but they
had that win against Ohio State and ended up representing
the Big Ten and then the championship game that year
(09:02):
for the Big Ten. But Ohio State ended up making
the playoff that year because of the early losses that
Penn State had.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Who were the final four?
Speaker 5 (09:12):
That was Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Washington.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
A lot of the usual suspects.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Yes, you guys want to know what happened in golf
that year unless you had any more sure thing. So
what was unique about that season was the twenty sixteen
Open Championship was probably the standout event because of the
showdown that you had with Phil Mickelson and Henrik Stenson
(09:40):
just pulling away at Royal Troon and it was basically
match play for the final final eighteen holes of that championship.
I did have to look up the ending spread. Stenson
finished at twenty under part of win pulled away after
a final round sixty three. Mickelson shot seventeen under par
(10:01):
for the championship. Third place was JB. Holmes, he shot
six under. He was eleven shots back of Mickelson. So
when you think of Phil Mickelson's career and you think
of all the near misses that he had at US
Opens and what could have been, this is another He
was eleven shots clear of third place. He just happened
(10:21):
to be playing in the same tournament that Henrik Stenson
was playing that week, and Stenson was just as out
of his mind as Mickelson was. But that that was
the big news in golf. And also that year it
was an Olympic year. Yeah, that Justin Rose won the
Golden Golf but because of the Olympics, the PGA Championship
(10:42):
had to be moved up because of the conflict, so
they played it just like a week or so after
the Open Championship. Wasn't back to back weeks, there was
a week separating. Jimmy Walker ended up winning at Baltus
role that year. He was dynamite, but it was kind
of lost in the shuffle and then kind of what
fueled the PGA Championship or help fuel the PGA Championship
(11:05):
moving to the spring, because now with golf in the
Olympics every four years, you were likely to have a
conflict either with the Open Championship or with the PGA.
The PGA ended up moving out and moving to May.
But that was in twenty sixteen. Danny Willett won the Masters.
Dustin Johnson ended up winning the US Open that year.
(11:25):
But that's your year in golf. You know who's a
good golfer. Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gostling starred in the movie
of the Year musical La La Land about this city
that we live in. Emma Stone never seen it, never
saw it. No, it's pretty good, not bad. And if
(11:47):
you remember right, if you flash forward to the oscars
of this movie year, Walla Land was spoken spoken to
win the Best Picture and then remember they gave them
the wrong card, read Warren Baty, and it was actually
Moon White. Moonwhite won the year a movie that nobody saw,
so La La Land a lot of people saw, and
(12:09):
the Moon White nobody saw. So that was that was
a part of that movie year. Do you guys remember
Stranger Things started twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
To Ben, I didn't know it was that long ago.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I know it's I watched it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I'm going to say like I watched it last year
the year before, and I was I don't like scary things,
and that scared me.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But I found a way to hold my own hand
and make it through.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
If you think about it, I think they're starting their
final season. They're going to release it here maybe in
the early twenty twenty five, and it's been what six seasons,
But you're right, it doesn't seem that far back, especially
since all the main cast members were like twelve and
thirteen years old, so they've had to grow on the
(12:53):
on the show, which is crazy. But yeah, twenty sixteen,
so much happened that year. It's just amazing just going
back and checking all this out. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
It is crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Also true and that is don't call it a throwback.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Don't call it a throwback. Throw Back Thursday, It's.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
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listen live.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
It's Doug gotlab Show, Fox Sports Radio. I thought this
was funny. This is Drew Brees tonight. Of course, Drew
Brees is going to be inducted into these Saints Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Here's Drew Brees.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
He just wants to do a simple cheer at halftime.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Drew Brees.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Here.
Speaker 9 (13:46):
We have been able to experience some incredible things together
in the Superdome over the last eighteen years. But Thursday,
game Day against the Broncos at halftime, to do.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Something that's never been done before.
Speaker 9 (14:02):
We are going to break out a chant that I
know all of you know, but we are gonna do
it as one in the Dome together.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It's gonna go like this.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
I'm gonna grab that microphone, I'm gonna look around and
I'm just.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Gonna say one. You say two win? Are you three?
Four win?
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Some more.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Five six win for kicks, seven eight win it's great,
nine ten, win again, win again, win again, when again?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
You know what time it is.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
It's time to get a new cheer, is what I think.
That's that's the time, Dug.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I think the kids say cringe. So what they say?
Speaker 7 (14:50):
Guys? I thought there would be no math?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Wait did he say one or three?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Here?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Stop talking? Bruise talking the one and then two and
then three?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Four?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I thought it was off the floor. Five six was
pickup sticks.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
The Minnesota Vikings do their skull chant, which is relatively
new and it works really well. You know why because
it's one word, it's one syllable. Yeah, this has multiple lines,
back and forth, participation, yeah, remembering, and the speed and
the cadence changes. This is gonna be a debacle. I
(15:36):
hope they don't cut away at halftime because it's just
going to be a rumbling mess.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Uh well, I don't think they'll cut away at half time.
It's on Amazon, right, so they even need to go
to ads, so they'll they'll show this thing. It's the
Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I hope
you're having a great day. The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast
live from the tyreq dot com studios and joining us
on behalf of bet online is none other than Danny Knell,
(16:03):
of course, former start at Florida State and NFL starting
quarterback as well longtime football analyst and talk show host.
And we start with a general agreement. I agree to
not ask you about Florida State. You agree that asked
me at Oklahoma State.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
We did. We good.
Speaker 10 (16:17):
That sounds like a perfect deal because the season has
not been kind to either one of us. Although you
guys at least had a nice win against Arkansas, like,
you guys at least had some enjoyment. I didn't get
anything like I got one win over Cow that was ugly,
Like at least you guys had that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, but I don't know how many wins are out
there the rest of the year. That's the part. But well,
let's again, let's not dwell. We made an agreement. Let's
move on. Was surprised Florida didn't go.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
For two, right.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Why you're playing Tennessee, you're on the road end of
the game. Go for two right?
Speaker 10 (16:51):
Absolutely, And unfortunately, I think for Billy Napier it might
be a decision that ultimately ends up to be his demise, right,
I mean he was already on the hot seat. Like
that's what kind of comes back to driving me nuts,
Like what do you have to lose your Florida? Your
season has not been the way you're supposed to. You
were a heavy underdog, as you mentioned, you're on the
road like you're playing, and so also when you're that underdog,
(17:15):
like you're the less talented team like that has made
more mistakes throughout the season, and then you're going to
play extended time with more plays, why not just make
it one play where you can dictate the outcome, go up,
dial up your best play, and go for the win.
I totally agree with you, and I'll actually say something
else because Purdue did it against Illinois. They tried and
(17:37):
ended up coming up short and losing. But I actually
come away feeling more respect for Ryan Walters and him
actually trying to do it again a place where they're
in the game. Illinois was a much better team. He
goes for two, comes up short. But you know what,
I'd rather leave it all out there and try it
on one play than try to take it to overtime
and extended time and more periods and more plays when
(17:59):
the better team is probably gonna win when you give
him that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Steuc Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the
voice of the one and only Danny Knell who joined us.
It looks like they've closed up that loophole. But the
organ play kind of genius, wasn't it.
Speaker 10 (18:19):
It really was? And you know, there was a lot
of debate early, like I'm talking immediate aftermath because Warren Sharp,
you know, he's a great football follow on X He's
always breaking down stuff. He almost within an hour after
the game was like, look at this genius. And I
got to admit Doug. At first, I was like, there's
no way, Like, there's no way he thought of this.
(18:39):
But then we also we've heard from Dan Lanning. But
then if you think about the situation, the fact that
he had it was coming out of a timeout, So like,
if there's ever a time where you would not you'd
have things buttoned up, you've got your right personnel out there,
your personal group, your personnel groupings, it would be after
a time out. And that's what Dan Lanning actually alluded
to when he when he was asked about this, he
said yeah, we discussed this in the time out. It
(19:02):
is the difference in like being a great coach and
being a good coach, And I think Dan Lanning is
a great coach. He's one of the more innovative, cutting
edge minds as far as the analytical approach and when
to go forward on fourth down. He's always been aggressive
and if you remember last year against Washington, he got
burned on it and a lot of people were criticizing
(19:24):
him for his aggressive tactics and for using those the
data and when to go for it and saying, oh,
you got to take those points there, and it cost
him a game. So I was really happy for him
to kind of be able to showcase that, you know what,
it's sort of like being at the blackjack table when
you look at analytics. You know, some people don't feel
comfortable hitting on sixteen if the dealer has two faces,
you know, twenty showing, but you kind of have to
(19:46):
and sometimes you might bust out and be like, oh,
I wish I wouldn't have done that, but you kind
of have to because the more times you do it,
the more times are there work in your favor. So
I was really happy for Dan Lanning. He is a
phenomenal coach. He's still young. Oregon locked him up because
I do I think he was about you know, could
have gone to Alabama, could have had any other job
out there, and Oregon locked him up with a massive
(20:07):
payday that I think was well worth it. I think
you're starting to see the dividends of that payoff, no.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Question about it. Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
let me let me ask you about Georgia Texas this week.
What are your thoughts on the matchup against the Horns
for the Dogs.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
I think, I actually think it's a pretty good matchup
if they can protect Carson Beck. I think Texas is
one weakness on the defensive side of the ball, because
they have a really good front seven. Is the secondary.
I do think they're gettable, and they haven't exactly gone
against a gauntlet of quarterbacks who strike a lot of
fear in you. And that includes two of our big
(20:47):
signature wins. Right when they played in Michigan on the road.
That looks like an awesome win, and it was. It
shouldn't take away from it, but the quarterback they faced,
Davis Warren, really struggled. He's not you know that was
two quarterbacks to go for Michigan. They've since benched him.
He finishes out the year before he gets benched two touchdowns,
six interceptions, and then against Oklahoma they were able to
(21:08):
completely shut down Oklahoma's offense, but Oklahoma was without five
wide receivers and a quarterback making his second start in
Michael Hawkins Junior. So I think this will be Texas's
biggest matchup yet for their secondary to have to stop.
And I do look at these quarterbacks, both of them
Doug and they're both probably buying potentially for who is
the first quarterback off the board. Chaanor Sanders might have
(21:30):
something to say about that as well. But if these
quarterbacks shine in this moment, it might come down to
who plays better in this game. And trust me, we
might see it again in the SEC Championship game. So
it might not be finished, but I do think this
could put one guy ahead. As far as the NFL
scouts think, I think it's going to be awesome. I
do think there's value on Georgia. I feel like people
(21:51):
are kind of down on Georgia. They didn't look great
in the first half against Alabama last week. They gave
up thirty one points the Mississippi State, who's not very good,
you know, and so everyone's kind of down on Georgia
and everybody's great on Texas, like, look how great they are.
They're number one, and they look awesome and they've done
everything they needed to do. But also just knowing experience wise,
(22:11):
when this happens, I think the value is on the
underdog here. Five points is a lot for texastacks them
to win by a touchdown or more. I think you
could see a very similar game to what we saw
Oregon Ohio State, two heavyweights going toe to toe that
comes down to the wire to a field goal. So
I actually think the values on Georgia.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Okay, now let's let's go to Alabama taking on Tennessee.
What's going on with Alabama? Right, looks so good in
the first half against Georgia and then hold on for
dear life and then lose, lose to and Andy and
they need a lot to beat South Carolina. It's on you.
Speaker 10 (22:47):
It's interesting, isn't it crazy? How quickly you know you
can go from the penthouse to the outhouse. You know,
that feels like what's happened to Kaylin Debor the head
coach Obama because when they beat Georgia and I know
they've the lead and they almost you know, lost the
game when they beat Georgia, Jalen Nolroe is the Heisan
Trophy favorite. Ryan Williams was the best, you know, true
(23:08):
freshman we've ever seen in history, and he might be.
And Kaylen de Bor was like, they're going to be
the next Nick Saban, Like how many titles are you
going to win? And here we are just a few
weeks removed, and all how quickly the conversation has changed.
Now we're worried about what Kaylen de Bor is wearing
on the sideline. Now it's you know, the defense has
massive holes, and all of a sudden, there's all this
heat and pressure on Kayln de boor. I think this
(23:29):
is kind of normal. I think what you're seeing is
a program that wasn't as talent rich even last year
with Nick Saban. It was an unbelievable coaching job that
Saban did last year getting them to the playoffs, but
they weren't as dominant as they had been maybe four
or five years previous, prior to nil and the portal.
So now all of a sudden there's a little bit
closer talent. Then on the defensive side of the ball,
(23:52):
that's where I do think there's a weakness in the coaching.
Caine Walmick takes over. He's still a younger coach who's
still kind of figuring out thing he's you know, calling
these defenses, and I think they've struggled to adjust in game.
And one of the things that you know that has
been noticeable is their lack of really adjusting in game.
So the opposing offenses are figuring out what they're running
(24:14):
and then they're exploiting it, and they're not making those
necessary adjustments either with substitutions or with different coverages, and
they've got to be quicker in that sense. But the
good news for Bama's secondary and their further defense is
they're facing Tennessee, who is typically a high powered offense
who's throwing it all over the place. They've been struggling
to put up points themselves. So I think that's the
(24:35):
matchup that determines the outcome of the game, is Tennessee's
offense versus Alabama's secondary. Who wins that battle, like who
fixes their issues first will probably determine the outcome.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It's stug Gotlig show here on Fox Sports Radio. I
do want to circle back to the organ Oahause State game.
Ryan Day was a hand chosen successor right of Urban Meyer,
but he has struggled against some of the top ranked teams.
They've played how long you know, look at close game,
very good football game, but how long do we think
the leash is for Ryan Day? After a lot of
(25:07):
people were upset over low last year, finished losing once
again to Michigan.
Speaker 10 (25:11):
It's so interesting because I think it's a really you
know this better than anybody like and there's more parody,
I believe, than there's ever been before in college football.
So now coaching becomes that much more of a premium.
Previously five years ago was all about recruiting, like who
was the best recruiters, who could have massed the best talent?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Right?
Speaker 10 (25:30):
I mean that was what really gave you the edge
because you could every time Ohio State has taken the field,
really in most of the games in Ryan Day's tenure,
they've had superior talent ten games out of twelve, eleven
games out of twelve, and then you look at some
of those closer games when all of a sudden you're
facing the team on the other side who has the
exact same talent or maybe you know, slightly better. But
(25:51):
that's when coaching starts to matter that much more. Look
how they've done. They've in Georgia in the playoffs. They
come up just short, Oregon, they come up just short Michigan.
Last couple of years, they come up short. So those games,
and I know, you look at the overall record, it's like, well,
you're sixty one to nine. You haven't lost that many games.
How could this guy potentially be considered anything less than
(26:12):
the coach of the next ten years. This is where
I do think coaching matters. And we look at the
decision we were talking about Dan Lanning like that was genius.
This is where I do think Ryan Day needs to
step up and make some better coaching decisions. I think
it was genius to bring in Chip Kelly and bring
in that sort of mind that comes in. I think
the offense has clicked for that reason. But it's those
(26:32):
these little, tiny situational decisions that are magnified that much more.
And it hasn't been exactly something that gets Ohio State
fans excited. So I think, look, he's not getting fired
anytime soon because he is having so much success. But
they still have Penn State on the road, which they'll
be favored, they probably should win. They're playing Indiana, who
all of a sudden looks a lot better. They're looking
(26:54):
at Michigan, who's having a down year. Like that to
me is the most pressure pack game, and it doesn't matter.
They probably makes it more pressure packed. If Michigan is
like six and six or seven and five, then you
talk about a must win game. I think Brian Day
needs to make a deep playoff run and potentially, you know,
to the National championship game. I don't think he has
to win it, but I think he has to win
(27:15):
some meaningful games in order to quiet some of his critics.
I think he will because there is so much talent
on that roster and look how close they were against Oregon.
But if he doesn't, then I think next year he
comes in on the proverbial hot seat, so to speak,
which is crazy, but it's just the landscape of college
football and knowing college football fan bases.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Awesome stuff. Danny Knell. Of course, you can hear Danny
on Sirius Sex Sam. You can see him on CBS
Sports and he joins some behalf of bet online. Danny,
You're the best man. Really appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Always do good catching out man, joy the games.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Let's go to Dan Byer. We have breaking news in
the world of college basketball.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Breaking news from Fox Spord the.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Eve of a brand new season.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Tony Bennett is retiring as the men's basketball coach at Virginia.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Spent fifteen years at the school.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
An official announcement is expected to take place in Charlottesville
late tomorrow morning. Again, Tony Bennett retiring as the men's
basketball coach at Virginia.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And interesting, obviously, I occupy the seat where his dad sat.
His dad, Dick, of course, legendary head coach at Green Bay,
at Wisconsin, at Washington State. He's supposed to join us Monday.
We have a big event, and he told me he
was going to come to town and he was headed
to Charlottesville afterwards. So obviously this strikes a surprised.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Now.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I know what people will say. They'll say, WHOA he
retired twenty days before the start of the season. Something
must be up. There have been a lot of reports,
and again this is not me reporting because I haven't
talked to Tony about it. I just got a text
from him when I got the job and kind of
just let him be. But a lot of reports that
Tony just didn't love, didn't love where college basketball was
(29:02):
going right when coaches want their guy to get the job.
And we saw this with Dean Smith, we saw it
with Roy Williams. We've seen it with lots of coaches
where they retire right before the season, so there is
no time for a national search. And you know, he
has two associate head coaches. One is Ron Sanchez. Ron
(29:27):
was fired at Charlotte a year ago, really good coach.
And Jason Woolford, who's another associated coach, a longtime assistant
under under Tony Bennett. My guess would be that he
would do it in an effort to get one of
his guys the job.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
But well, Doug, there's presidents with his dad, Dick. Dick
retired early in citing burnout in Wisconsin in two thousand
and one, so I mean, pretty interesting Wisconsin bo Ryan
did it for Greg Gard too.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, but amazing.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
I think it's burnout. I think it's more burnout than
to what you're saying at the beginning. When you're like, yeah,
maybe this college basketball isn't what it was before.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah, but I think it's burnout over how college basketball is.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Yeah, you know, I agree.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, And and people say, well, like well for you,
well for me, like it's a dream job, Like I
got this is I might have been burnout of my
old of doing it, the old way of doing you know,
travel around the country doing college games. So it's something
new for me. But look, this is there is one
piece of it which we try and pay attention to it,
(30:48):
but especially at the highest level, it does get lost
is the education piece. Is this it's professional basketball, professional
football for many of these guys, and constantly having to
recruit your own team, let alone another team, and not
having guys grow and evolve like that whole thing is
if you've been doing it one way for twenty five
(31:11):
years and been crazy successful, and I'm like, yeah, you
gotta do it a different way, you know. Yeah. By
the way, if somebody doesn't like it, they can just
up and leave. Yeah, it's I get it. I understand.
I understand. If I get information, of course I share
it with you.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
But I'm just bumped.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
He's a great human being, like one of the few
guys you can go like, yeah, he's a better guy
than me.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
You know what's interesting too, is you named some of
the assistants. Brad Soderberg, who was the one who took
over for Dick Matt when he left when Bennett retired
from Wisconsin. Soderberg is on that staff of Totdy Bennett.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, and Brad is a phenomenal coach. Phenomenal coach who
the best part Brad's thing was they thought he was
too boring, Like, yeah, I don't think you know, he
was successful, not boring.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
But be sure to catch the live edition of The
Dust Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
App Stug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Study news in
the world of college basketball is Tony Bennett. Of course,
one national championship with Virginia announce's retirement. Not sure if
that's the lead story, but let's get to the press
with Dan.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Byer the press.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
It's definitely one of those, Doug. But there is some
other news and we will pay off the tees immediately.
The Cleveland Browns have apparently decided to build a new
stadium in suburban Cleveland for going a plan to renovate
their current stadium in downtown Cleveland. The Browns new two
point four billion dollar dome stadium in brook Park, Ohio,
(32:51):
would be open in time for the twenty twenty nine season.
This has not come from the Browns, instead the Cleveland
mayor making the announcement today, hours before Game three of
the Guardians Yankees ALCS matchup, but saying that the Haslam
family has decided to not renovate the current stadium that
is downtown and instead will build that dome facility in
(33:12):
suburban Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Wow, they're going to a dome in Cleveland. Now to
many people, you just sak like, oh okay, well, dome
in Cleveland. Like that means it opens up the window
for them to potentially maybe get a Final Four maybe
unless it's not crazy they have they've had in Detroit.
But that's a wow. Now it's I mean suburban Detroit.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Suburban Cleveland, brook Park, which is southwest suburban Ohio from
suburban Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
That part sucks because it has been you at the flats,
you got cool stuffed in downtown Cleveland, but.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Yakes, you're right next to the rock and roll Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Uh huh.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
But obviously the lakefront and you'd have more area in
a suburban park. But I just I am not a
fan of teams leaving downtown areas.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I just where has it worked well? That's what I guess.
I'm saying my question right, Like the move has been
to go back to downtown's yeah, I'm trying to think
where has it worked well? Minneapolis is a beautiful dome, right,
and downtown Indy right, and downtown Atlanta right, and downtown.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
Washington has been a failure, you know when they left.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
RFK right, and everybody thinks they should move back to
RFK right. Redo that, redo that site.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
It's funny with the Cowboys stated. Not that THEIRS wasn't
in downtown Dallas either, but like there's not like tons
of rave reviews about Arlington, you know, even though that there's.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
There was there was no Arlington Orleavington was just kind
of midway point between Fort Worth and it's not yeah,
and it's not great.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
It's not good for an event either. I can tell you.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
I kind of want to go down the list, like Arizona.
We don't love in Glendale now.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Now Arizona that area has been really well developed, but
it is so the traffic in Phoenix is so bad,
and that city's gotten so big and they haven't planned
well for it. But yes, it's way out there.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
A couple of other football notes.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Doug the Athletics says that the Jets have received some
calls about Mike Williams.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Those came from the Saints, Steelers and Chargers.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
No thanks, no.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Thanks, We're good, good, nice guy, big ride receiver, always hurt, overpaid,
can't get open.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
I mean, the only the only reason it would make
sense is if because he's familiar with the system, but
it's a new system.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Like, yeah, but he is familiar with I mean, like
he doesn't do much anyway, apparently he doesn't do it
right when he does it. But yeah, Mike Williams is fine,
but he and maybe if it's like no cost, like
we'll give you a seventh round pick, that could be
a sixth round pick if that he gets to be
an all pro and and oh yeah, by the way,
you got to pick up all the money. The big
(35:53):
thing with the Jets trade is they picked up all
the money, all of it.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Everybody.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Doug Clippers forward Kawhi Leonard is out indefinitely for the
start of the season because of coomation. Why inflammation in
his right knee is the reason.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
Kawhi.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
That's Kawhi.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
That sucks. I love Kawhi Leonard. I've never thought he's
faking in or soft. I just think he's got a
bum knee.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I do.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
I do love.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
What ESPN in their expansion of this story is this
is done so Kawhi can not only rehab and come
back fully healthy from this injury, that he will not
experience any more.
Speaker 7 (36:29):
Issues with it.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Raw.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Yeah, isn't that what you should do on all injuries?
I don't know, just me.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Game three about to get underway in Cleveland, Yankees and Guardians.
You'll see it on TBS. Came forward between the Dodgers
and Mets and the NLCS on Fox Sports One tonight
eight oh eight Eastern Time, and the Broncos in Saints
kicking off.
Speaker 7 (36:48):
Week seven in New Orleans. Dug, that is the press,
get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show, a's Fox Sports Radio again
News Today. Tony Bennett, head coach of Wisconsin of Wisconsin,
head coach of Virginia announces his retirement.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Ron Sanchez will take over. A longtime right hand man,
of course, was the head coach at Charlotte. I'll post
something on my podcast. It's called All Ball. In the meantime,
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