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Speaker 1 (00:44):
The the movie Animal House? I do feel like it's
a dated reference, right that, Like Monsey is so much
younger than I am, and so much younger than Jason is,
and obviously younger than Sam is. So if I say,
Monci Animal House, have you seen it? I expect the
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answer to be no, I have not. That's an old movie.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I actually have seen parts of it because at Universal Studios,
I work there as a tour.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Guide and it filmed there part of it, So like
I had to learn about it.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's okay.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah, so but you're right, But you're right. I would
not have known what this movie is if it wasn't for.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Right it was.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Animal House is nineteen seventies, absolutely, and even though it was,
it was one of those movies where every college guy
ever has watched it. That's in the eighties and maybe nineties,
and I'm like the last generation of people that still
would watch and love that movie?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Is that fair? Jay stew That's fair?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So like people dropping in even Caddyshack references are really dated,
Animal House is dated.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Sam. Have you seen Animal House? Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Absolutely? Many times.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Okay, So when I say, you know, the famous bellution
line from that movie is what what do you think
the most famous pollution line is?
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Either, what are the Pearl Harbor? When when the Germans
bomb Pearl Harbor?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Was it over when the Germans bomb Pearl Right?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
That's probably the most famous. Like Spiel he does.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yes, I think I think those are the two. First,
he does the zi which leads to the food fight.
Yes's a food fight, but I think it's was it
over when the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yep, he got it? A little mixed up.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
There, right.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I think Jason Kidd dropped a similar line, only it
wasn't scripted in a movie. Okay, let me paint the
picture for people who missed it. Last night, Luka Doncik
returned to Dallas first time ever since he's a member
of the La Lakers.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
It's a video.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Tribute and Luca, those didn't look like faked tears. He
looked like he was getting emotional before the game. Here's
Luca talking about that reception from the Dallas fans.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It was a little bit of both, you know, happy
and angry. But you know, it's nice to see some
familiar faces here. You know, I spent a lot of
times with them. Like you said, you know, there was
a lot of emotions. When I woke up, I was
tired and lie I didn't sleep much. I'm excited about
this game, and I really appreciate the fans the way
they reacted it to me.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Here's Luca talking about it being time to move on.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Everybody told me the way I reacted to the video.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
You know, all these fans, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
All the teammates I had, you know, everybody had my bag.
So I mean, I'm the happy you know this guy.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
I love these fans, I love the city. But it
sounds to move off.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So Luca probably goes out and drops forty two. They
win the game, and what is it? Humiliation galore? And
then after the game Jason Kidd and this is one
of the old This is Jason Kidd after the game.
Excuse me before the game and take a listen to
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the trade that he compares it to.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
This is a business. It happens, right, Trades happen. This
won't be the last trade. Some of compare it to
Babe Ruth, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay, look, I don't profess to be a baseball historian.
I don't know everything about past trades. Matter of fact,
what's the baseball writer?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Jay is? His first name is Jason. He used to
work for ESPN.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Jason Stark wrote a book about the worst trades in
baseball history.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I don't know if you guys have ever written read it.
There's some a million terrible trades in the history of
Major League Baseball, but the worst trade in the history
of the sport, without anybody's, without any question, is when
Babe Ruth was traded from the Red Sox to the Yankees.
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Not only did Babe Ruth go on to become the
most prodigious home run hitter in the history of the
sport when World Series after World Series after World Series
and is still the most famous name in the history
of the sport, the Boston Red Sox went on to
not win a World Series for eighty six years, and
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it was called the Curse of the Bambino, which is
Italian for what it was like, an Italian nickname for
Babe Ruth. Right, Jason Kidd coaches for the Dallas Mavericks.
If we're analogizing this as hey, it's like the Babe
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Ruth trade, and that's cool. In this episode, the Dallas
are playing the part of the Boston Red Sox the
New York Yankees. The La Lakers are playing the part
of the New York Yankees.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
In other words, if you're comparing the.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Trade to the Babe Ruth trade, your boss pulled off
the worst trade in the history of basketball, Chasing Stewart,
Am I wrong for that? As the breakdown of the
misused analogy.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
True, because if you want to, if you want to
take a look at this analogy, yes, Jason Kidd represents
the Red Sox in the baseball analogy. So nothing's cool
about the trade.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
And if there's no Reds, there's no Red Sox fan. Evers,
it's like, hey, Smitty, remember we traded Babe Ruth.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
A great trade? Great trade, right, that was awesome. That
was awesome. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. That's that's that's cool.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Maybe they got to return in the trade where one
of the guys had like a good month of April
and been like, man, we got away with murder on
this trade. And then eighty six years later, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, that guy is long dead and buried.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah. Yeah, the Babe Ruth trade is not cool. There's
nothing cool about it unless you're a Yankee fan. I mean,
this is this is Jason Kidd saying.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
That boat.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Come listen, I got a boat you don't reminds you
of reminds me of the Titanic. Let's go, let's go
take a let's go take a cruise in this this boat.
It reminds me of the Titanic.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
You know, they're saying that this is like the Titanic.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
They say, they're saying this boat's like the Titanic. I
don't know it actually sounds a little bit like Trump
saying that stuff. Hey, they're saying I'm the greatest president ever.
I don't like who says that. Like, Ah, I'm just
I'm hearing it. This is the things I'm hearing. I'm
hearing that blimp trip reminds them, like we should go
take this blimp trip over Europe. People are saying it
reminds him of the Hindenburg. I can't wait. That's cool.
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Wait for me one more time. It's so bad, it's
really good.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
This is a business. It happens for trades happen. This
won't be the last trade. Some of compare it to
Babe Ruth, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
But some of it's like Babe Ruth. Hey, that's kind
of cool, Jason. You know, if they compare it to
Babe Ruth, it's the opposite of cool. For the Dallas
Mavericks are your employer.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Hey, that's cool, that's cool. I mean, I listen. Cal
Berkeley is the number one public school in America. Uh
uh a, Jay kidd that that doesn't reflect greatly upon
your knowledge of or use of, uh sports history in
an analogy. Hey, you know what this reminds me of Huh.
(08:50):
This reminds me I picked biggest disasters ever in sports.
They're saying, this is like the Herschel Walker trade. So
they're saying, yeah, only in this case, you're the Minnesota Vikings. Dude,
you're the You're the Dallas, You're you're the Yeah, they're
the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yes, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
My favorite movie of all time is Boogie Knights. As
Dirk Diglar said, remember he was talking about all the
people that wanted to attack him, and he's like, you know,
just like when Napoleon was king of the Roman Empire.
You know, everybody, everybody wanted to defeat him. Every part
of that sentence is wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Right, It's just it's just like as I started, as
I stated that was his was it over when the
Germans bomb Pearl Harbor?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Hell no?
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
The first time Belushi reared his head as Jason Kidd,
you know, people are saying, well, like, what's the worst
sports radio show ever? You know, people were saying my
show just like that one. That's why when people say, hey,
like you're like Cowherd, like, oh really, the most successful
Coward and Dan Patrick most successful sports radio shows going
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on right now America by all means comparison. Yeah, here's
the here's blushie. What I think is the most famous
line from Ana Whiles, What did it over?
Speaker 8 (10:15):
When the Shrivings bompo?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Forget it? He's rolling.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Forget it, he's rolling.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You think somebody who was sitting there behind him, like,
whoever the the what do they? What do they call
the sports the PR guy for the MAVs And he's
sitting there and somebody elbowed the PR guy for the
MAVs Like right, yeah, that one didn't make any sense
at all.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
He's like, don't worry, he's on a roll. Just let
him finish, right, let him finish.
Speaker 8 (10:46):
This is the best of the Done dot Lead Show
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Speaker 1 (10:55):
Stutgott Leap Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to you from
the tyreq dot com studios. Casey Jacobs and will join
us in moments. First, though, you know, we all want
to say my bad, but only one of us gets
to do it in its own segment.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
We call it buyer's remorse with dead buyer.
Speaker 9 (11:12):
Some have remorse, I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible
and selfish behavior.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I engagement, come on.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
But there's nothing quite like buyer's remorse.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Danny, what are you ever borse about Doug?
Speaker 9 (11:27):
Again, It's nothing that I did, but it is something
that I enjoyed. Maybe I'm passing the buck for the
second straight week, but I will say that I have
I had high expectations last night, not for the National
Championship Game, but for one shining moment. It's a tradition
that many of us love and look forward to, and
it's a bittersweet end to the tournament. But we get
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Luther Vandro singing out one of the greatest sports themed
songs that we have and Doug the highlight package did
not meet the moment. I second that you do, Thank
you very much. I thought it was underwhelming, and I
don't know if it's because of the lack of buzzer beaters.
It felt good with the first four and the Alabama
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State that Derek Queen shot, but I feel they just
try to now blend in a bunch of different like
emotional shots and not shots and stories that actually tell
the story of the tournament. And then at the end,
because they're so crunched for time, they want to do
something with the championship game so they'll always have Iron
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Eagle or in the past obviously, Jim nance be like,
and the road ends here, and it's that drone or
that cable camera shot over the court. And then they
only have time to put like four highlights from the game.
They don't know who's gonna win, so they have to
put one from Houston in there and one from Florida.
So it's a Walter Clayton shot, it's a Houston highlight,
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and then it's the guys on the floor, and then
it's them on the podium and that's it. And I
just didn't feel like one Shining Moments highlight package. The
song is magnificent, but I didn't think that the highlight
package got to the level of the song last night.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, I'm gonna agree with you.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I thought there was too much of the drama and
not enough of the Like you said, the storytelling, good call.
Speaker 9 (13:16):
They want the crying, and they want the band, and
they want the fist bomb.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
But just show us the plays of the tournament. That's
all that we need. I did like the guy with
the bloody eyebrow though. That was a cool close up.
Speaker 9 (13:27):
Yeah that's fine.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I don't remember that happening, but that works. That's something
that we may have missed.
Speaker 9 (13:31):
But I just feel like they're always trying to go
for the sentimental shots and all this other stuff. I'm
just not a fan of it. And that's buyer's remorse.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's a Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio,
and let's let's talk some college hoop. As Florida is
now national champions, Houston comes up just short after having
a late lead. The game courses on the back of
Florida's come back against Auburn and Houston's come back against Duke.
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Casey Jacobson joints this here, of course, superstar growing up
in southern California's McDonald's All American. He was a star
at Stanford, he was a lottery pick in the NBA,
and now he's a college basketball list for Fox Television.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So Casey, just give me your sense.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Start of the second half, obviously, the officials tighten it up.
I don't want to share my thought. What were your
thoughts on the officiating, not just in totality, but specifically
what happened in the second half.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Well, first of all, good to be with you, Doug.
It was a great Final four, but yet to that point, look,
as players, you and I both play. You're now a coach,
what you want is consistency from officials. We both know
that this was going to be one of the more
difficult games to officiate. These are two extremely physical teams.
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These are two teams that hang their hat on defense.
I know Florida was number two offensive efficiency country following too,
but they are you know, stout inside and out, and
so it just wasn't an inconsistent called game. That's my takeaway.
So it was frustrating. What I found most interesting, Doug
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is so Houston was in the bonus with what fourteen
minutes to go, and I'm not sure they took more
than two free throws the rest of the way. That
was like head scratching because I you know, my dad,
Doug Von my dad coached me, trained me as a
kid to always, you know, perk up when when that
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bonus light on the scoreboard goes on. My dad would
be like, take notes, drive the ball to the rim
if the if the officials are calling it that tight,
make it to your advantage. I don't think Houston did
for the rest of the way. That was a real
puzzling thing. Florida shot way more free throws than the
second happened than he's ended.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, I agree with you on the inconsistency. I actually
thought it was the right thing to do. I thought
the game was unwatchable in the first half. Was Yeah,
it was one of those Houston has that same thing
Louisville had when they won the national championship with Rick Patino,
where you know, they founded so much that you know,
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they say, hey, you can't call them all and then
start the second half. They clearly went to the locker
room and if it was like, we got to tighten
this thing up, and it felt like a lot in disparity,
but part of it was what they wanted was what
they got at the end of the game, which is
they you know, they felt like you can get to
a clean game at the end of the game. But
you're right, Houston didn't attack. I there's a lot to it.
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I I thought Florida played a much smarter game in
terms of kind of playing the numbers, when to take advantage,
when not to. You mentioned getting to the free throw line.
You know what people don't realize about analytic friendly basketball.
It's not just about shooting threes. It's about getting rimm
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two's and getting to the freezer line. They did that,
But you know, I guess my ending takeaway was Houston
has still had great opportunities, but you can't not get
a shot in your last two possessions of a National
championship game and I expect to win.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
It, Doug. They didn't get a shot on their last
four possessions, four consecutive turnovers to end the game for Houston,
which is unthinkable for Kelvin Sampson's group this season, they
never do that. They had a total of five turnovers
in the first thirty eight and a half minutes of
this game. I didn't know what I was watching. I've
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watched the end of the game a couple of times.
I'm sure you have two, Doug. The final possession, so
you know they're only down to. Houston's only down to
They clearly drew. They call time out to drop the play.
The play was to get a three. They were going
for the win. The play was had two options were
The first was for l J. Cryer to get a
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catch and shoot at kind of the you know, the
flock just just off of the wing. He was covered
partly because Florida blew up the timing of the play,
but then here's where it got interesting. And I'm sure
you noticed this, Doug. Two things happened. One when LJ.
Cryer was not opened. The next you know thing to
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happen in that play was for Emmanuel Sharp to come
off a staggered downscreen. Right, So two bigs, one hitting
early and the other cleaning up late. Neither Houston Cougar player.
So it was Francis and Juwan Roberts. Neither one made
contact on a screen. And if you noticed, Walter Clayton Jr.
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Got caught ball watching. He's getting a lot of credit
for that amazing close out, and it was, but watch
it again for one full second, he completely loses track
of who he's guarding. He's staring at the ball and
then realizes, oh crap, I'm the guy I'm guarding is
about to catch and shoot, and he runs and runs
him off the line. But Juwan Roberts missed the screen totally.
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It was as badly executed of a play as I've
seen from Houston all year. And yeah, just you know again,
so you combine that with the four turnovers Houston, that
was brutal. That was a brutal way to close out
what's been an amazing season for them.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
The only place obviously I saw the same thing right,
And my issue with the play is too slow developing.
You're down to go right away. The best Houston offense remains,
you know, one of your shooters shooting a quick three
and let's go get it off the boards.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's where they have so much, so much success. The
other part to it.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Is, you know, when you run a play with multiple
actions and you're not a multiple action team, right, you're
asking guys to do something they don't normally do you
know know whereas Again, normally Houston is set a ball
screen or run some simple action and then let the
guard go and throw it up and we'll go get it.
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So it was the players, but some of it was
was the play and it is unfortunate that you don't
even get a shot in some of those situations. What
about Todd Golden you played obviously a long time in
the NBA. He looks super young. Obviously, I know I
believe you're friends of them.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I know I am.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
And the question that I was asked more than anything
is NBA next stop, right, because of how he carries himself,
how they approach the game. But I'm wondering if you
think that works, if you think he works in the NBA,
not this year, but in years to come.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Well, hey, look I've been surprised on you know. Or
It's hard to predict, is what I'm saying. It's hard
to predict the future of a young man. Todd Golden's
a young man, younger than both you and I, Doug.
And Uh, he's only starting his college basketball or his
coaching journey. He's been a head coach for six years,
three at University of San Francisco and now just finished
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his third year at Florida, and uh has been mighty impressive.
And yeah, you know Kyle Smith of the current coach
at Stanford. Uh, you know he coached under him. And
and uh, I've covered a couple of his games and
met him a couple of times at at USS haven't
met him or haven't been with him since he's been
at Florida. But high level guy who doesn't really have
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a big ego and wants to learn, like super hungry
to learn. And and the style at which us F
and now Florida play is great. Their their offenses are
high level. They share the ball, they run quick action,
they run, they play with pace, and they shoot it
really well. So but but to your question, I don't
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know what you're asking is something that only tap would
could could tell us. Does he have aspirations to be
an NBA head coach or does he want to be
like a Tom Izzo and coach for thirty years and
make as many final fours and have as many cracks
at national championships because he enjoys coaching and developing young
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people and having a real impact. So I'm excited to
see his coaching future. But it is interesting though this
season was you know, what he was going through and
what he was alleged to have done at the beginning
of the season, we might I thought that he might
be fired at the beginning of the year, and for
him to now be cutting down nets a pretty crazy turnaround. Obviously,
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the investigation turned out to be, you know, dropped, he
was you know, you know, not charged with any crime
or any whatever, and but yeah, that could have been
you know, things could have been different. So it's just
pretty crazy how this year went for him. Personally.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Casey Jacobson college hoopes analysts for Fox Course, former All
American college and in high cool and a star with
the with the Phoenix Suns case.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
You're the best man. Let's catch up in person sometimes soon.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
Thanks for being our guest, of course, Doug, have a
good one man.
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Got the National Championship game that's coming up in what
is it four hours in change? Four hours and change
five hours or so, So that'll be fun. We'll make
our picks a little bit later on the show. But
we do this every Monday, kind of recaps our weekend.
We get to what we love from the weekend, what
we hated the weekend. Really simply, we call it love
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and hate.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
What did you love?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
God?
Speaker 8 (24:06):
I love you and what did you hate?
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Meet these player haters?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I love love, love, hate, hate, hate, doo doo doo
do do do do do do do bah chah boo
d DoD do did do. Let's uh, let's start with
our resident lover. Let's start with Iowa, Sam, Sam, what
you love for the weekend?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Well, on Friday, Doug on your show, I picked. I
took dibbs on a guy, l J. Cryer to have
a big game and a big weekend for the Houston Cougars.
And I've been talking up this guy for years, ever
since he appeared for one minute in the National championship
game for Baylor against Gonzaga. I'm kidding, of course, I
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had no idea Dan brought that to my attention? Or
was it Jason? Who was it that brought to to
my attention?
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Now he's shaking his head at me. Now, No, I took,
I took DIBs on LJ. Cryer on Friday, And uh,
you know, America's rooting for Houston. Now, this is America's team.
You know, Florida fine, you know, but they won a
national championship, you know what, not that long ago, less
than two decades ago. So LJ. Crier and the Houston Cougars,
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let's go win it tonight. Win it for Kelvin Sampson.
I took DIBs on LJ. I'm very proud of that,
very proud of my wisdom, my foresight. IQ. There you
have it. That's what I loved.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Okay, how about you there? My good friend Dan.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
Byer, well, Sam is I love when he takes his
Friday and uses it as his love. Jason even said unbelievable.
And we were talking about the games and Sam's like, yeah, no,
I did take l J.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Cryer.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
It's like, no, we weren't talking about that. We were
talking about the actual games that were You guys are
still in shock that Duke lost, and I'm like, I
already moved past it. I was like, oh, yeah, Doug.
What I loved this past weekend was the silver Lining,
and the silver Lining is the talk throughout the tournament.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
And I don't care.
Speaker 9 (26:15):
I don't need to name names, but I just know
that there are sports talk shows that don't give a
bleep about college basketball. And as somebody who loves college basketball,
and I know it is your life for every year
of your being. Practically, I get offended when a tournament
time comes around and people drop in with the arguments
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saying well, is this good?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Is this bad?
Speaker 9 (26:39):
And two years ago is too many Cinderellas? Nobody wants
to watch Cinderella. And it's the same argument. Upsets good early,
then everything stays the same and it's a good final four.
That's all people say because they don't follow the sport.
But what happened in the last three weeks, Doug has
been the talk that you've hit the nail on the head.
Is anil is winning. But what we haven't to talked
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about was if nil is winning and Cinderella goes away
for those games, yeah stinks, But the payback, the silver lining,
were the two magnificent games that we got this weekend.
If there is more of that in college basketball, there
actually may be an opportunity where the first and second
rounds of the tournament aren't as popular as the actual
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final four, because that was great basketball. Whether he had
a dog in the fight or not watching both of
those games. And if that's the future, that maybe isn't
necessarily a bad thing. It's different from what we've been
accustomed to the last thirty or forty years. But if
you get that level of basketball in two national semi finals,
I don't know how we can be mad about that.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I think you're going to see that in the Sweet
sixteen on I really do. Again, the differences in the
in the Cinderella stories, like those are going to be
very very unlikely, very unlikely. Doesn't mean they're won't be
an you know one here, one there, sure, but we
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could sell.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
Them after the round of sixteen anyway, right.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
The the interesting yes, the interesting part about it is
in many ways you could say the Cinderella story still
exists because those are players that began their career at
those smaller schools. They've just now matriculated up. I mean,
like you've seen Florida's stuff. Like those guys weren't heavily recruited.
Walter Clayton junior wasn't a heavily recruited guy, went to Iona,
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you know, and then transferred back to his home state.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
So it's weird.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It's it's like a different way of looking at Like,
do those same kids do well in the tournament? Yes,
they just do well now as you you pick out
the best of the best and put them on a
team full of basketball senior citizens, if you will. So anyway, Uh,
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let's get to Jay Stoo.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Hey, guys, this will surprise you, but I loved not
watching the women's Final four and the championship game.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
After watching both last year for the first time, I
went back to not watching it and I had a
really good time. I loved it. I wasn't alone, I guess.
According to some reports, fourteen million people watched Caitlin Kark v.
Yukon a year ago in the Final four. Only four
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million tuned into Yukon Final four this year. And I'm
not rubbing it in. I'm not saying I told you so.
That's not what I'm all about. But I will say this.
I saw this, and this is just an amalgamation of
what I saw on Twitter. I'm just specifying Jamel Hill
because she kind of weighs it out concisely. Last year
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was an outlier. Nobody expected those numbers to be the same,
but the growth is still there. Hold on it. Second,
let's let's pump the brakes. You did tell us that
the the numbers were going to be the same this year.
In fact, I think I heard that uh Page Becker's
and Juju Watkins were better basketball players than Caitlin Quark,
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that she was simply passing the torch to a sport
that everybody was infrenzied about and the numbers would be
the same, So don't be moving the goalposts. Don't say
last year was an outlier because the messaging from the
people that covered the sport a year ago was the
opposite of.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
That interesting, good call, love it.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I thought the sport had changed and every it was
on par last year, remember outrated the men's final four,
and then this happened. Yeah yeah, uh okay, I'll get
to what I what I what I loved. I I
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love the legit brotherhood fraternity of coaching that it's like
once you've been through it, and it was rough, right.
I can't tell you how many guys who I've grown
up watching doing it and people who are my kind
of contemporaries my age put their arm around you and
go like, welcome to the club, buddy. But it was cool,
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you know, It's it's just you always wonder how it's
going to be. This is really my first chance. I
mean last year during recruiting season, I was spinning. We'd
just gotten the job and we had our we're trying
to figure out our team.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, it was that part is very very cool, very
very cool.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Was there one? Was there one in particular that was
kind of stuck out among everybody else, was like a
somebody of very high status on the sport.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
That Yeah, I mean Dane Altman. I told you guys,
I left at halftime of the of the Duke Houston game.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I mean Houston. It's a tough watch, man, I'm not
gonna lie to you. Tough watch. But I.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Get to the to rus Chris, I sit down on
his steak and I get a text from Dane Altman
and he's like, you're buying And I look up and
there he is. And we talked for a minute and
he just he's always been a very kind guy and
knows how much I when I think of him as
a coach, and you know, he just said some really
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nice things and he had actually watched some of the games.
He's like, hey, I love that you do this and this,
And I was like, what you know, Like why are
you watching a Green Bay game?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
It was really cool.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, I And Dane Altan's a guy that feels like
there's many games where he could lead you at halftime
and then switch teams and then beat you with your
team afterwards. All Right, let's get to what we hated
from the weekend. Little hatred so he changed the music.
Let's start. Let's start with our resident hater, Chase the Stewart.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Hey, Doug, I'll tell you what. What I hate. Who
I'm hating right now, who have spent a lot of
time hating over the last forty eight hours, is jo
Ni Broom. I'll tell you what, Doug. If you if
you cost me a chance at twenty five hundred bucks,
you're gonna You're gonna go by what I call you.
So you're jo Ni for the next thirty seconds.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
I'm not laughing because he's he got it wrong. I'm
laughing because I know he's doing it on purpose. That's
that's why the.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Guys you throw these days. I thought he was a
co Player of the Year. According to somebody who voted,
he's definitely an All American. If we rewind the clock
to I got DIBs on Friday. This is what I
said in my I Got dips. I was betting against
him and my survivor pool on Sunday and he killed me.
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I'm betting for him tomorrow, so hopefully he doesn't do
me twice. Thanks boy, did he do me, And by
do me, I mean he had four shots in the
second half of the game. He was winded, tired, maybe
even hurt. And then we found out that Jon and
I is bad body language guy too. Just sniping it
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his teammates and his coaches. It's everybody else's fault. The
one thing he did to try to contribute to the
end of the game was he got two free throws.
I don't know what the score was at the time,
but it was important. He missed both of them, and
then he missed the second one so badly that it
bounced back to him for the rebound and he fumbled
it out of bounce. Joan I broom, I hate you.
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You cost me a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I hate you, Okay, I was him.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Well this plays into Jason's love of the weekend a
little bit. But the women's National championship game was a
dud and it didn't help grow the game at all.
Yukon winning yet another national championship. I know it was
the first time in nine years, but then winning another
national championship does not grow the game at all. It
was such a breath of fresh air to have Kaitlyn
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Clark in the national championship game two years in a row.
But now we're just back to the old guard. We're
back to Yes, the numbers are up, viewership's up, but
her two years in the spotlight helped raise those numbers
a little bit this year, this year at least, but
it's never going to go back to where we had
it with Kaitlyn Clark. And as so long as these
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institutions like Yukon and South Carolina are winning national championships,
it just doesn't grow the game. These are supposed to
be two brand These are two brand names squaring off.
And it was a blowout. And then all I saw
afterward was just all this praise for Page Beckers. Oh
she finally got a national championship. Yeah, and all the
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there's just so much like Yukon bias that seeps throughout
all those Oh my god, are you the world's biggest
complainer social media?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
What are you talking?
Speaker 4 (36:15):
The Yukon bias is all over the place. It just
drips down.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Like Yukon bias.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
They won by forty, say one, by twenty three, they've
they've they eleven titles.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
They've won twelve well titles, I know, but it's just like, oh,
Page Beckers, she got her national championships. Like you know what,
nobody outside of Connecticut cares. It's just the same wrong
and dance. No, it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Just what's because it's because it'll hurt you.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
No, it's the women's college game was growing with Kaitlin
Clark a fresh face in there. Yes it was. It
absolutely was. Fourteen million people watching is absolutely growing the game.
Now it's shrunk back.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
It hasn't shrunk back. People like Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Okay, well she was playing in women's college basketball. I
understated or the spring breeze was coming in and question
and now it's the door. The window is shut. And
unfortunately we're kind of back to where we were where.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Where oh ye's where you've always.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
The twenty five years minus two years. We just had
the same old song and dance in women's college basketball.
That's I just.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Jay stu Ja still you know you know who Sam is?
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Who he's that.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Guy I'm complaining.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
I'm complaining about just it's just it's the it's the
same teams. It's the same like like you have two
programs who have what fifteen national titles between they have all.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
The money it's no different than the men's game.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
There seems to be even more of a uh disparity, Yes,
top heaviness issue in women's college basketball.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yes, because women's college basketball. I'm just did Wrollan did
with the expansion? Okay what they what they almost did
with the first rounds, which is over expand Okay, if
you have three hundred and sixty four women's see, there's
not that many good women's players just not.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Hey, there's not.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
So it's refreshing when a Kaitlyn Clark, who did not
get offered by Yukon goes to an Iowa and brings
a new face into the into the conversation page.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Beckers also got hurt, just like yeah, just seem just
got got hurt. But again, oh, the misconception is this.
I think Yukon kicking ass is awesome, that is amazing.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
I don't think it draws interest. So that's I think
that's my point of all this. It just it.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Doesn't draw the Caitlin Clark interest. It does draw more
interest than they had gotten pre Caitlin Clark. Some of
that is thanks to Caitlin Clark. But you are making
the mistake that ever that so many in women's basketb
are like women's Pascal has made, which is they think
women's basketball is growing. No, No, the MLS is not growing. Okay,
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when the MLS brings in a superstar, one of the
world's biggest stars, people care about the world's biggest star.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
That's the reality of it. It's the reality of it.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
You had a residual audience left over from Kaitlin Clark
and it's just unfortunately. It's not anything anybody has control
control over. But the game was a dud between two
heavyweights and it was just unfortunate. I just you know,
it's just yay, it's a great another national championship for
Yukon and whooped you do? That's my take?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Uhdad buy.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (39:27):
We got to talk some more about this maybe later on.
My hate Doug actually started from a love and I
got to get about I don't know, three or four
hours of of redoing my you know, I'm doing redoing
my lawn and I'm doing different things with it. So
I got about four hours of work on Saturday prior
to the National Championship game, and then yesterday four hours
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plus another two later on in the day. But the
worst part about it was every part of my body ached.
And I don't know of others across the country. I
know it's snowing in Detroit right now, so it's a
little flurries they've actually subsided. But tempts aren't necessarily balmy.
People trying to get their lawns in order, and you
know what, there just have been muscles that haven't been
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used in a long time. So when you're crouched over
trying to build a new rock wall for your little
front yard, and Doug, I don't have a big yard
at all. It's just that I'm out of shape and
I'm doing it myself. I had cramps in my hamstring
on Saturday nights. Yesterday my thumb like locked in place
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because of a cramp, which is my worst nightmare.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Uh just yeah, are you properly hydrated? Well, it was.
Speaker 9 (40:43):
Warm out yesterday, Doug. It was mid eighties here. I
know Sam asked the question, but it was a warm
day yesterday, and I tried to as much as I could.
But yeah, bodies feeling and felt it last night and today.
But got some good work done. But it's that time
of year, worst place to get a cramp. I hate
has really quick bad.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Hamstrings bad though, especially when you're performing a dull activities
that can be bad.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
The foot is like, yeah, you ever had a rib
a cramp in your ribs before? That is this fortress.
I'll say this.
Speaker 9 (41:18):
This is why, like when people want to rip on
the bron for the whole deal, well, when they were
playing in that sauna in San Antonio and your whole
body cramps up, I'm sorry, there's nothing you can do,
like there's and I don't think he was faking it
because he was the only one that was playing well
for the heat. Cramps are legit, but they yeah, absolutely,
they thought about it.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
They're a terror upon us all, no question stretch.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
And that's a Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
I'm about to do my hate. I hate that everybody's
inner childhood. I hate Duke comes out when they lose, right,
I just do. It's like, look, can you can they collapse?
Is it bad?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
You know? Jay su wants to call it a choke. Yeah,
it's all those things.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
But it's like, wait, it's not Coach K just because
they're flashing Coach K because he's the It's I don't know,
people have this insatiable hate for teams that have been
awesome for a long time.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
It's like, I mean, John Hiram, he owned it.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
He could have done better, but it's like all of
a sudden, it's yeah, we're back to hating Duke.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I Just like, what is wrong with people? And that's
eleven eight.
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