May 12, 2025 • 49 mins
On a Monday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show:After the news of Giannis Antetokounmpo being open to moving on from Milwaukee, Doug poses the question: would you rather have Giannis or Cooper Flagg ?
Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to talk about the Celtics, Giannis and all of the other major headlines around the NBA.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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the the shores of the Bay of Green Green Bay,
Wisconsin and from Sherman Oaks, California. Welcome in. It's a Monday.
Hope you had a great weekend, truly great weekend, and
we're just glad to be with you. That's really what
it kind of comes down to. Rick Buker is going
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to join us live at twenty five f the hour.
We'll talk all things playoffs with buke. Oh it's next hour. Sorry,
my bed, my bed, I get my hours confused. Okay.
In the meantime, let's talk. We got football this hour.
I got some Shore Sanders and some Dylan Gabriel to
talk about, plus George Pickens apparently going scorched earth on Pittsburgh,
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and we got the press, we got game time, we
got the whole crew here. You heard Dan Byer, that
means my man Dan's here. Of course, you got Iowa
Sam or Big Apple Sam. And you have my guy
Jay Stu. Hey, I thought. I thought Jay Stu brought
up a great point. And I'm gonna make it as
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my own. Okay, but I agree with him. That's why
I'm gonna make it as my own. Which is normally,
normally the talk of trading a superstar in the off season,
when we're in early May, it's May twelfth or close
to mid May. Normally it's like, really, you know, kd
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is gonna get moved, Giannis is gonna get moved, Devin
Booker might get moved. I don't think Lebron gets moved,
but again, he may act like he's gonna get moved.
Joel embiid gonna come back. What does it look like
around him. Let's see what happens with the Celtics after
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the season, because Perzingis doesn't feel like he can get
or can can stay healthy. Assuming they survive, and maybe
that's a big assumption. Down two games to one, they'll
be player moving. But normally May twelfth, you talk about
player moving like literally Normally, you talk about the NBA
draft lottery and there's not a crazy amount of interest,
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even if the talent is crazy exciting Victor Webbin Yama
very exciting player. A couple of years ago, there was
some tanking going on for Wemby. But our interest in
the lottery and the draft has clearly waned over the years.
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If you go back the last twenty thirty years, I
did ten of these drafts, and every year, and granted
the first year was Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Camelo, Anthony,
Chris Bosh, Darker, Milisic, et cetera, et cetera, it's not
close to that. And part of it is, don't we
don't feel like the one and done guys can help
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right away, and the older guys feel like they're just
older guys. They're not great players, regardless of whether or
not we've had draft picks in the portal era be
successful or not. And the fact that the portal and
the money in college has weeded out a lot of
the hey, late first, early second guys they get in
the draft that are clearly aren't ready. They go back
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to college and make more money and they do get older,
and they do get better. Very rarely do we get
excited about a draft or draft lottery. Very rarely do
we get excited about freecy on May twelfth. Here's the
Here's why it's different this year. You have the possible,
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at least the possibility of Giannis wanted to be moved.
He's got two years left in his contract, and you
have a very unique incoming talent who is widely regarded
as the number one overall player, who's younger than guys
have been previous American players have been previously because he reclassified.
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He's only eighteen years old. And I'd be lying to
you if I didn't say at least a factor of
of the I don't know. The hope for him is
he he's ready to play at a very young age,
and he's the great white American hope. Again, I don't
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think that's why you draft players, right, I mean, ninety
five percent or so of the best NBA players are
black men, whether they're from here or from Greece or
from from Canada or wherever. I you know, ninety five percent,
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but the point is very high percentage, and so you're
never going to sacrifice the chance of having a great
player just because of the color of his skin. You're
still in the You're still in the business of winning games.
Nothing else matters. You want to fill up seats, win games,
win games, win games. But if the top prospect happens
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to be white American born, which we have not had,
there's at least a curiosity to it. If not based
upon his play in college, his play with against tam
Usa last summer leads you to think like, hey, maybe
this guy could be different than so many in the past.
And it leads to the question, which is a very
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simple one. Would it trade away the chance at Cooper
Flag who's gonna make far less money? And you're like,
you have to NBA guys, you have to have dollar
for dollar equate. You do, but you throw in everything
else in the kitchen sink. Really, it's your chading a
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top level NBA player for a very top level prospect.
Normally would you do it? And I think a lot
of it depends upon where the team is in their growth,
but also also can they get can they build around
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Jannis for example, if Giannis was to be moved. And
I think it's a great question because my take is
pretty simple. I absolutely trade that pick, and I love
Cooper Flag, But I know what Johannison Tennakoumpo is like.
Is he the best the world?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Is he the easiest guy to play with of a superstar?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
He does appear to be a great human being. He
is a beloved teammate, and we've seen him win an
NBA Finals MVP. We've seen him kind of win a
game at that level on his own and close out
a series on his own. Everything from Cooper Flag is
hope that he can maybe someday possibly get to that level.
You know, the devil you know is better than the
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devil you don't now. The flipside too, that is Gnnis
has been hurt a good amount. I don't think he's
in the downside of his career, but he's definitely not
at the apex of his career. And he makes a
crazy ton of money, whereas Cooper Flag would not. But
I think that's what makes this draft or this draft
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lottery tonight really interesting because depending upon who gets the pick,
it's much more movable and the possibility becomes a higher
rate of probability if it's a if it's the right
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team that wants to win now, right, Cooper Flag is
going to be a hell of a player in the NBA.
Do I think he's gonna be a top five, top
ten player in the NBA. I don't know. I don't
know what that looks like. Once he gets the league.
I think, yeah, it feels like it. He's up for
the challenge. He plays well, big games, He's played against
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older guys. He can do. He can do a ton
on the floor. And if you don't like the way
he he shoots middies off the dribble, just know that
eventually it'll get to where he's those are. They're more
a higher percentage of threes, and as he develops more
develops more range, it'll be even better. But like the
guy's legit that said, I know what Yiannis is, I
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would definitely I have said. Somebody said, hey, basically, it's
straight up Giannis for Cooper Flag, Like, I know what
I'm getting there. I take Giannis. But at least it's
an interesting conversation, whereas in so many years in the past,
I don't think it's that interesting. And you know, aj
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Debansa is considered the top prospect going to college this year.
There are reports he's gonna make seven million dollars to
go to BYU. And if you've seen some of the
miked up segments with AJ debands that you're like, yeah,
I'm not sure I love him. Cooper Flag does not
have the same uh polarizing trash talk in his background.
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But I think the draft lottery is really interesting, and
it's really interesting because this is the rare year where
you can actually have that discussion, and it's a way.
Normally you go like number one pick for you, honis,
move him goodbye. But when you have a generational sort
of talent plus a generational sort of story, and again,
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let's not avoid it. I don't think that Cooper Flag
is rated how he's rated because of the color of
his skin. I don't. I don't think anybody would say that.
I think he's rated how he's rated because at every
level he's been the best player. But you can't deny
the fact that America hasn't had like who's the best
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Tyler Hero is probably the best American born white player
in the NBA. Is that who we're going with?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So I do think it makes it interesting. Does it
make it a drawing card? I don't know. I don't
know why other people watch basketball, and I don't like
being told this is why other people watch. I like
to see things how they played out. Did Duke's number spike? No,
people still watch Duke. But I think that his talent
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is what makes him interesting, because he is, without anyone's
any question, the number one prospect, and he's an American
born kid, and he seems to be one of these fluid,
big guys who can play anywhere on the court, kind
of like I honest. But again, if you take him,
you're more hoping that he could eventually become He'll never
become Yannis because he's a different player, but that level
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of dominance, whereas with Giannis, you know what he is.
Let me ask you by it real quick, because you're
a Bucks fan, and I don't think there's any doubt
that though you don't watch every game, you watch a
lot more Bucks basketball than I have. But if I
told you Cooper Flag and what he could become or
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Yiannis and what he is, what would you do? And again,
I know that the salaries don't match and you have
to do other stuff and throwing things in the bag,
but that's kind of what it comes down to what
would you do well?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
So just to give a little background, because we talked
about this a couple of weeks ago in passing after
the Dame injury, because it just didn't look like the
Bucks future was that great at that time. And it's
like when your team college football loses, you look at
recruiting lists, the same thing in college basketball, what do
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we have coming in?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
What can we do?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
In transfer portal? Now, you're always looking ahead, And I
thought about that. I would rather at this point, if
I'm the Milwaukee Bucks, have Cooper Flagg, then Yannis. But
there's also the point of for the teams that are
likely to get the number one overall pick, they don't
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need Yannis. They'd just be what the Milwaukee Bucks likely
are right now. If you were Charlotte, or if you
were the Wizards, or if you were the Jazz, and
those are the teams that are the best chances of
winning the lottery and getting the number one overall pick.
Not only are you doing a swap, but you're giving
other pieces as well away to Milwaukee as part of
that deal that I don't even I don't even think
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it's realistic in this conversation. Now, if Brooklyn would jump
up and get number one. Maybe a different story there,
maybe another team jumping up and getting that opportunity. But yeah,
it's just it's it's tricky because I think the Bucks
could win forty two games with Giannis and without Dame
and went ten and four without Dame. At the end
of the year, there's gonna be some changeover. But you
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mentioned the points against him and the health, and it's
a battle of wills in the NBA with these two
topics because number one potential it's what we always draft,
but number two superstars. So I'm not a big Marvel
DC sort of guy, but it seems like it's a
battle of those two titans coming at each other on
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which one you would go with and I would go
with for the Bucks scenario. On this case, I would
rather have Cooper Flagg's future.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Wow, Jannis has not made any firmness. Is this from
Scham's on the Bucks future after the franchise third consecutive
posts He's an exit in the first round, But for
the first time his career, Yannis is open mind about
exploring whether his best long term fit is remaining in
Milwaukee or playing elsewhere. League sources to all ESPN teams
have approached the Bucks frequently over the years about the
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availability of Joanniston Tenacumpo as a normal exercise, and they
expected it's expected to ramp up due diligence during the
combine week, according to the league's sources. So again, we
have time for it. But the fact that he's at
least open to exploring tells you where he is. And
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I'm with you. I actually I agree with you from
a Bucks perspective. I think the rest of it is
really interesting, really interesting. Like take take Brooklyn for example,
Dan right, they've had their best teams when they haven't
had those troops. Now I could sit there and go like, hey,
if I'm fair, When they had KD and they had
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Kyrie and they had James Harden, Harden wasn't healthy, but
they were going to beat the Bucks. Kyrie gets hurt
and then KD still could have won the series had
his toe on the line in Game seven. So they
haven't been that far off. But where they like, does
Giannis make them a championship team? And my answer would
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be no, no, whereas Cooper flag like that makes Brooklyn
way more interesting and it continues to build with what
they do, so I'm very much team dependent upon what
I do.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I think that the closest thing that we have in
this scenario for the history of what we've seen is
when the Calves traded Andrew Wiggins in the deal to
bring in Kevin Love, that they chose Big three for
Lebron in his return than developing Andrew Wiggins and keeping
him on that team with Lebron and Kyrie, and I
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think it's a it's they're not apples to apples, but
that's the where the time where the Cavs said, Okay,
we will trade that number one overall pick. We will
trade that guy for a substantial piece that we feel
that could bring us the title. Yes, now, it was
this deal that I think that we could come to,
and looking at.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
It, it's it's a great parallel. I'd say the differences, right,
the differences. Super Flag is a much more well regarded
prospect than Andrew Wiggins's. Right, this is a year in
which there's absolutely number one pick that you absolutely think
should be an NBA All Star. Whereas Andrew Wiggins was
always a what if sort of guy? Right, what if
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sort of guy? And that was that was the EMBIID year,
wasn't it? Yes, Yeah, And so you know if you
can redraft, like remember Embiid missed his entire first year
and Beid got hurt before the draft when he's playing
college basketball. So would you have made that would that
move had made sense if it was a healthy Joel Embiid?
I think the answer is no. I think the answer
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is no. But it's it's it's just a fascinating deal
where normally we've gotten to this place like eh half lottery,
schmaf lottery. But now when you factor in a prospect
who is absolutely regarded as the number one guy, that's
Cooper Flag and the potential for a superstar somewhat in
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his prime. I don't know how many more years we
view him as such, but he's still a really talented
guy that can obviously help carry a basketball team. Could
be on the move. And the only reason I say
this is because Sham says, first time in his career
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He's a Fox Sports one NBA analyst. He's also our
Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider, and I guess Rick, my
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question is on Oklahoma City. Right, last year they kind
of got pushed around and you'll lose to Denver. Uh.
This year you go in and all of a sudden,
you're trailing excuse me, Dallas. This year you're you're trailing
Denver in the series, and with a quick turnaround, they
get a big win. But what what are your thoughts
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on this team now that we've seen them be pushed
in the same series they're pushed in last year.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Well, I think if it comes down to having to
win the kind of close games that generally playoff games are,
we've seen We've seen one or the other, Right, We've
seen these these nip and tuck back and forth, uh
down to the last second, miraculous finishes, and then we've
seen the absolute blowouts. But I think that that by
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and large, playoff games are decided by your ability to
defend and execute offensively in the last in the last minute,
possession by possession, and that's where Oklahoma City is just
in some ways a victim of its own success in
that during the regular season they played a total of
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five games that were decided by three points or less
and they were one and four in those five games.
That's that's that's at least half, it's not a third
of the games that other teams played. The vast majority
of their games, their their tempo, their defense combined with
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their their offense created blowouts. And so I'm watching a
team that is that is trying to figure out in
real time how should we play possession by consession at
the end of these games, And they happened to be
up against the Denver Nuggets teams this time around that
has gads of experience in those kind of games, and
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you can see the difference in the execution. I think
this last game, the only reason it went okay Cee's
way is because of miss free throws ultimately by Denver,
and I think they ran into the same thing with
Dallas last year. So that's something that has to be
developed and they have to determine whether they have the
personnel to do that as good as Shaye Alexander and
Jalen Williams are.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
So ultimately can they win Do they win this series?
Speaker 7 (21:15):
I don't, honestly, I believe the Denver is going to
win it for that very reason. And if they and
if Oklahoma City somehow winds up surviving this this series.
I don't see them getting to the finals. And I
think there's just too much growth, there's too much understanding
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of how to play in high pressure situations. I still
think there's learning to be done there by them, and
they have to go through some teams that that have
more experience ultimately at that and and that's not where
I was, you know, over the course of the season,
I thought, you know, I just didn't want to ignore
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just how good their regular season record was and how
good their defense was. I thought that that could carry
the day. But I just I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I just.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
I see a team that's still searching for what's the
best way, what do we want to go to, how
do we want to play? Where are we going to
operate from when when we're in a last second situation
and having to figure that out as opposed to everybody
having a familiarity with what you want to do. I mean,
I think you know this from having played and coached, Like,
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that's not a place that you want to be. You
want to know every whether you whether you execute successfully
or not. You want to have like everybody knowing this
is what we're going to do and our star player
is going to be doing this, looking to do this
so that everybody knows how to react off of it.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Well, I would, I would add this, And even in
the game that they won yesterday, there were some bad
possessions late where it becomes Shay one on one, take it,
take it contested three, and you're like, what happened to
all that cool stuff you were doing the whole year
offensively to create space for him, and then it kind
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of results resorts to everybody else. So I I is
that that? And look, Minnesota's done the same thing too
with Anthony Edwards at times where it's just you know, people,
you go from great ball movement to all of a
sudden of the game, let's just watch our best player
go one on one and try and save us. But
that part really surprised me. I don't think it's just players.
I think coaching staff also has to learn the differences. Here.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
We saw that, but I mean as experienced the coach
as Tyron Lewis. He did the same thing with the Clippers.
Clippers were much more effective when the when the ball
is moving, and simply a lot of it is just
just makes decisions quicker, like you're either going to go,
you're not gonna go. And and Minnesota just does is
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another team. It is so maddening when the ball moves
and you just got one two, you're either attacking or
you're moving the ball and then and then looking for
something else. They're just so much more effective. And whether
it's Julius Randall or Anthony Edwards, when I see them
holding the ball and staring at the defense and like
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three seconds tickoff, four seconds tickoff, I'm like, this is
going nowhere, Like this, make a decision and keep it moving.
And and that coaches allow that to happen or sometimes
even invite it at the end of the games is
still it's still extraordinary to me that that, considering the consequences,
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that it is allowed to happen.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Doug Ot Leave sure hear in fox Portray that's the
voice of of Rick Buker. Okay, the it was the
weirdest game there Saturday night with the Warriors right where
they don't make it three in the first half and
they're winning, they start making threes in the second half,
and then all of a sudden they get kind of
boat raced at the end of the game. But it
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did feel like, you know, the they obviously this team
is really pretty good defensively. Can they keep it together
for when Steph returns.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
I'm going to be surprised if Steph comes back. First
of all, let's start there. I think there's a lot
of optimism that when I look at his age and
I look at the risk that comes with with trying
to play the way that he plays with a hamstring issue,
I just I find it hard to believe that it's realistic.
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I know everybody's like, can they just hold serve? Can
they get him back for a game six or a
game seven? I look Minnesota's indifference or they're seemingly not
being all that urgent to get this series over and
not risk Staf coming back is alarming to me. The
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level of basketball IQ with some of their best players
is alarming to me.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So, I.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
You know, Golden State has done as much as you
could possibly ask them to do. I think sometimes the
talent differential is just too much to overcome. But the
fact that the fact that Golden State, based off of
their system and everybody understanding what needs to be done
in the general basketball IQ of their team, the fact
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that they've made it competitive you know, for at various
stages of the game. Is I think is more a
statement about the Minnesota Timberwolves. None of these games should
have been close, and they and they haven't been at
various times. And then Minnesota just completely lets off the pedal.
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And the problem is that if you the farther any
team advances, the more your ability to stay locked in
and execute for forty three, forty four, forty five minutes
in the game. Everybody has lulls, Everybody has those, those
brain cramps and those and those periods where things just
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kind of go sideways. That happens with every team. Nobody plays.
You can talk about playing forty eight minutes. Nobody plays
forty eight minutes of perfect basketball. It never happens. But
it's like a muscle. You develop that ability to stay
focused and when things go sideways to rein it back
in and get back on task. Like that's the muscle
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that you develop so that it goes from thirty five
to forty to forty two minutes. And the Timberwolves are
showing no interest in developing that muscle or the ability
to play consistently for the better part of the game.
And I think that that's going to bite them at
some point down the road here, and until they get that,
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then they're not coming close to winning a championship.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
All right. The Knicks are still up to games to one,
but after falling behind by twenty game one and game
two and come back and winning, they fall behind by
thirty and don't recover. Yeah, how do you first see
the rest of this series?
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Ah? Man? I mean it's the beauty of these playoffs, right,
with all of these, with all of these series, is
that you you have these games where you're like, Okay,
if it goes this way, then I think I can
pretty much predict how this is going to play out,
and then you have a game that just throws everything sideways.
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I still believe. I'm going to believe the same as
with I think this is very similar to the okayc
in Denver. It's a matter of controlling the tempo and
how well is Boston going to shoot the three. For
the better part of this season, they've shot the shot
the three incredibly well, but they're they've become a little
bit of a one trick pony when it comes to that.
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And I believe that the physicality that's beinging allowed in
the game now more than I've seen in years. It
ratcheted up in last year's playoffs, but this is this
is a whole other level. I do think that that's
affecting threes, whether it's the the you know, taking guy's
legs a little bit, or whether it's den you know,
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allowing the contact at the rim now means you can
be a little more physical, which means the timing on
the on the perimeter on the kickouts is not quite
the same. Guys that can't make that pass as easily. Uh,
I'm I'm going to bet on on on the Knicks
in the way that they play. I just think that
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they have more ways to score than than Boston has
developed over the course of the season. And Boston's confidence
at both ends of the floor is highly dependent on
the three ball falling. And you know, if I'm going
to bet on one thing or another, I'm gonna bet against
that carrying them through for another couple of wins.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
You got the Jazz, the Wizards, the Hornets, Uh, Sixers, Pelicans, Nets,
and Raptors. Yeah, which of those teams in your mind
would trade Cooper Flag if they could get Jannis.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
Oh, I didn't see that question coming. That's an interesting,
interesting question. If they're smart, all of them, every single
one of them. And I'm a big Cooper Flag fan
in terms of what he and they would be doing
him a favor I'd like to see him with and
maybe not Cooper Flag going to Milwaukee. That's tough because
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he kind of has to step into I don't think
that's a ready made team to go forward. What I'd
like to see Cooper Flag. Ideally, where I'd like to
see Cooper a Flag end up is where he can
be a number two or three.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
I don't want him going in and immediately having to
be the cornerstone of a new situation, especially if it's
not a developed culture. But and and that's why I
say any of those teams, even you know, Toronto, I
think is a little farther down the line I like.
I like a lot of what they have. I don't
know how well the Cooper Flag Scottie Barnes combination works.
(31:27):
That would be my only my my only hesitation there.
But a lot of those other teams, like I do
not want to see him in Washington, I don't want
to see him in Charlotte like those those teams have
established stars that I would think are are not going
to be good for his development. So and Philadelphia is
(31:51):
such a mixed bag, and I don't it's it's this
is kind of a treacherous situation for Cooper Flag if
we want him to become everything that we think he
can become, because the candidates are not are not exactly
star studded.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
No, no, they're no, they're not. It's gonna be fascinating. Hey,
you great stuff as always, man, thanks for taking us
the time with us. Let's talk next week.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Sounds good.
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I we got to get to Celtics Knicks, which is tonight. Okay,
you remember Friday. I was talking like Celtics Knicks was Friday,
but it really wasn't. But just like Nuggets and uh
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Oklahoma City short turnaround because of the game that was
on Saturday and now the game is on Monday. We'll
get to that. Plus Rick Buker be our guest. We'll
talk about the draft lottery, whether Cooper Flagg the rights
to him could be traded for a Giannis.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
You never really closed that loop. By the way, we
close the loop from Friday, Like you said that you
had a tough choice on Friday, the Knick Celtics or
the stand up back you were going to And then
the entire controversy about who opened for the stand up act.
Was it a metal band? Was there an opening?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
There were a bunch of other I'm glad you brought
that up. I can't remember all of the comedian's names.
There was no metal band, Doug.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
I was thinking about how ridiculous that I would even
assume a metal band would Why would we Why would
we blow over one's ear drums out before having a
soft spoken comedian come up on stage. I don't make
any sense. It made funny, and it was funny. I
gotta admit it was.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
It was funny, but I gotta be honest with you.
I'm not actually sure. I don't agree with that. I
don't know of a metal band, But you don't necessary
because I'll tell you what happened, and then I'll circle
back to why it's not crazy what you said? So
Nate has I think there were three other comedians, plus
there was a host to his comedian, and they did
(34:50):
I think eight minutes a piece or so eight ten
minutes a piece, and they were all very good, very good.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
You better have your best stuff. If you only got
ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Well that's how long a set normally is isn't it,
Jay stew you ten minutes?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yes, is like eight to ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I show? Uh no, so uh one, I would. I
would encourage you to go. It's a great show. What
I loved about the show was it was probably a
little too Nate's humor is probably a little bit more
like our age. You know, you probably gotta be upper
(35:28):
thirties and all up to there's a lot of wife, kids, marriage,
and then normal lifetime stuff. He did do a doctor
Pepper riff, which was very, very funny. But no one,
not one curse word, not that I'm like, look, I
cursed like a sailor when I'm not on radio and
occasionally sometimes I get clipped. Sorry about that Sam from Friday. Anyway,
(35:50):
not one curse word, and they were all kind of
not over the top. Their comedic style sort of matched
and married married his Now the downside to that is
I'm walking out and my son Hayes. It was his
first comedy show ever, and he was like, I like
the heavy guy. I thought he was way funnier. What's
(36:11):
his name? Like, I don't remember, It's like he was
I connected with him more. He was funnier to me,
which is like if you have four comedians, sometimes one
of the guys again, because it's only ten minutes and
an hour is a long time, you're kind of stretching
jokes and taking pregnant pauses and whatever, and he has
a slower pacing. Anyway, the one thing about having another
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comedian is they can top the actual headliner, whereas if
he had a metal band, not top of it.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Right, it's a different experience, right.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
But it's a really good show.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
But like it just I've seen. I went to go
see an ACDC tribute band once and Bill Burr and
other comedians actually opened up for that show. It's right
before COVID hits. But I'm I'm just thinking back. I've
never heard of a band. Plus you have to set
up all the drums and all equipment. I've never heard
What was I thinking on Friday? I've never heard of
a a musical show opening up for a I'm sure
(37:02):
it happens from time time, but a musical show opening
up for a stand up act, that just doesn't doesn't
happen that often.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Don't think, No, it does not, it does not. Okay,
So I love the show. I'm gonna use I'm not
gonna use that as my love.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
By the way, how did how did uh mister I
can never say his name Bargazzi? Yes? How did he
fare with the I saw your story one of your
social media starts? How did you fare with the three
hundred and sixty degree stage? He has great people all around.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Him, the theater in the round, theater in the round.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
It's like a little disorienting. It's could be.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I think, you know, he toured last year and I
think it was I don't know, but I think it
was the same stage setup. So this was only his
second show of this tour.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
You gotta like turn around. We can't can't ignore the
people behind you. You can't have them before.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, I mean around. He just kind of walks in
sort of paces and it kind of works. It feels
like he knows it did not feel like it was
his first theater in the round. So pros pro and
good show.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
And for those that are wondering, Wage War in New
Orleans started out with self Sacrifice, Low Stitch, and then
Gravity and then they went to high Horse, god Speed
in Nail five. Do you know the only reason then
they ended with is this how it ends? So that's
how it ended. In New Orleans on Friday nights.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
The only reason that this became a controversy is because
our very on Ryan Berschinger, who I think listens to
this band. He immediately he was listening to the show
and he messages me and he's like, now that's not right, man.
The wage war is in New Orleans and so and
I just started. It started unraveling from there. So thank
you to Ryan Berschinger for bringing this to light.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
What's funny was so my daughter, as you guys know,
metal head, herself metal musician, and she was actually listening
to the show on Friday and she's like, really, they're
opening in Green Bay. I was like, no, no, Grace, No,
She's like, no, I heard I heard Sam say it.
(39:04):
He was sure of it.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Take that with a grain salt.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
It's very funny. Let's get to love and hate.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (39:11):
God? I love you?
Speaker 5 (39:12):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Meet these Clay hay is love love love hate hate? Hate?
Hey hate hate hate? What'd you love from the weekend?
What'd you hate for the weekend? Hope you had a
great weekend? Hope the weather was good. Let's start with
our resident Lovah bo Dan Byer Dan Wold.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
You le resident lover boy. I'll take it. And again
we step outside of the world of sports, but I
think there's many a man like me and probably women
as well, that love that first mo. Now in California,
we don't have four seasons, but obviously, Doug, where you are,
(39:52):
there's a first mo of the year that you have
of the lawn and it's glorious. But I told you
I'm redoing my front lawn, the little area that we have,
And on Saturday, the first mow of the year happened.
And even though I've got some patchy spots that need
to fill in, the first mow.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Was a success. It looked a lot better mode than
it was just growing.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
But there is something about it.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
I stood there.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I just love it right, Yes, it was.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
It was amazing and you just look at it and
then you look at it from a different angle. Then
you walk around and look at it from another angle.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Oh it's so okay. I'm going to hop in on
your glory. Okay, okay. So did I tell you guys
last week that I bought a mower.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
I saw it, so that needs to be Yeah, tiight
into this because I saw you with a John Deere.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yes, so so that okay. So look, when I was
at ESPN, I had a rioting mower and I loved it,
loved it and would i'd mowed my own grass. And
then when I was at CBS in Westport, Connecticut, We're
there for three years. I don't think I didn't have
the mower because I sold it. We moved and we
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had somebody we had like a lawn service, and it
was a beautiful yard too, Like it was so easy
to do, easy to do, like the lines on. We
had like a little baseball field in the backyard. So
when I bought my home here in Green Bay, like
the first thing was like, ooh, I can mow my
own lawn. And just you know, last year I had
zero time, none. So I was looking in a Facebook
(41:24):
marketplace and I was like, ooh, should I bought, like,
you know what, I can afford a new mower? Wow,
I can afford a new mower. Dang it. So I
went down just like every other Tom Dick and Harry
and I went to home depot and first I was
going to get the less expensive one, and I was like,
you know what, I did only get the forty two
inch not the forty eight inch. But not only did
(41:47):
I mow my own grass, but my son was here
and I taught him how to use a riding mower,
which I granted, I understand if you're a real man,
you push mow it like like Dan did whatever. But
it's like I was like, dude, you can just meet
a little summer job. Just go door to door, like, hey,
mow the lawn. And uh yeah, it was so a
(42:08):
double wind for me. One mowed my own lawn. Two
taught my son how to use a riding mower, and
I felt all a better for it. So I hear,
and when it was done, I did the exact same
thing you're talking about. I'm like, I am man, I'm
lawn smell. That smells like baseball season, right, It's so great.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
Yes, I have questions for both of you. Actually, well, Dan, please,
I just want to. I just want to.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
I want for the record because I would feel guilty
if I didn't mention this. Our gardeners mowed the lawn.
But the reason why the gardeners mowed the lawn is
because our lawn is so small and there's not a
lot of room to keep the more because just of
our property size. But so there's gardeners that do are
neighbor's house, that do our house, but they mowed the lawn.
But I have been thinking of do I just get
(42:51):
one of those little blade cutters, you know those manual
walcome yeah, pre motor pre. I feel like that wouldn't
take up as much nearly as much room. I could
keep it on the side of the house, or I
could try to stick it in a corner of our garage.
So those are the options I have been looking at.
I got to keep those sharp. Yes, But go ahead, Sam.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
Questions, Well, okay, so Doug, it makes sense that if
you're in the Midwest, you kind of get your first
mow in you know, April or even May. Maybe if
it's you know, you're in a month, or you're in
a place like Green Bay, it's a little colder, a
little longer, so the grass doesn't start growing until a
little later. But Dan, you said, what about the grass
growing at your place all through the winter? I mean,
(43:33):
because out here we have temperatures in the fifties and sixties,
is we got a little rain finally, so is your
grass just not growing the whole time until recently? Well,
I killed it in feues, right, you're starting over, yes,
but again there are people who are saying that you
shouldn't shouldn't grow your lawns in the spring. You do
it in the fall, and then it has enough time
(43:54):
for roots to be stronger. And I guess maybe i'll
find out in July and August if I made a
bad decision.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Hmm, okay, uh jasetu, what's you left in the weekend?
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Shoho Tani hit a go ahead, three run homer on Friday.
But that's not what I loved. I love the fact
that he mocked the Diamondbacks. This guy named this clown
name Lordus Gorriel. I hope I got his name wrong.
A bunch of Diamondbacks are hitting home runs off of
Dodger relievers throughout the latter part of the game. Lordius
Gorriel maybe being the biggest offender of the bat flip
(44:29):
and uh Shoho Tani, which I love a lot of
things about Showhy, but he's fairly boring. In fact, he's
almost overly thoughtful and considerate. I don't know if you've
ever noticed this, but he'll follow ball off and alask
if the catcher's okay. But he went full mockery. He
hit a three run homer and he mocked Lordus Gorriel.
(44:49):
And then the next day Lordis Gorriel got a fastball
in the back, which scene. So thank you Shoho Tani
for lowering yourself to the new baseball standard.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Wait, so did he pimp a home run? Oh?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Show, hey pimped it badly? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (45:05):
It was awesome, badly show Hey? Oh Tani?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Uh Sam, what'd you leave for the weekend?
Speaker 5 (45:15):
By the way, I can, I can kind of weave
this into love because riding a lawnmower is just oh man,
it's like it's easy and it's it's fun, I guess,
unless you have to do it as a job, but
it's it's you know, that's how you spend your weekends. Man,
that's good stuff. My love I had. I had a
nice mix of social get togethers and you know, getting
(45:38):
stuff done at home. My love is my weekend. I
got some new sports related shirts. One of them I'm
wearing right now. It says Portal University. It's kind of
mocking the whole you know, transfer, Portal out of control.
It got so hot in my apartment it was nineties,
high nineties on Saturday, so I escaped after I know,
I was doing some cleaning and then got out of
(45:58):
there when hung out with producer lead to lap pool side.
So that was nice and took in a lot of
NBA basketball. It was just a great weekend, a little
you know, the good bounce of socializing and doing stuff
on your own at home. Took in a lot of NBA.
It was beautiful, man, that was my love.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
H that's beautiful. That's that's that's beautiful. Well. In addition
to the weather, In addition to UH buying my buy
buy my first brand new mower, right, I'd bought always
bought a US mower uh in the past. I I
just I loved watching one guy in the NBA this weekend.
(46:39):
His name is Peyton Pritchard because so oftentimes, you know,
you talk about, hey, you got to find a role,
and if you're a Peyton Pritchard, you would think his
role was like a t J. McConnell, like get up guard, dudes,
just be a dog. But he's become this amazing scoring weapon.
(46:59):
He's average fourteen and a half a game. But if
you look in the NBA season, like what he did,
I think on Saturday, that's not an outlier. That's how
his season was. And it's like the untold story of
these Celtics. They're like, well it is Jason Tatum good?
Is he bad? Is he alpha? Is her star? Is
her superstar? What is he? Peyton Pitcher was just so dynamic.
(47:21):
And there's a guy who I don't know, if you've
seen his workouts, like he does these dribbling workouts in
his garage in Oregon, which are insane. Did he score
like ninety three points in like a pro am game?
I just I don't know. Feels like self made, dude.
And despite my brother, when my brothers in Oregon State,
(47:42):
he tried to recruit Peyton and Peyton didn't even return
his calls because all he want to do is go
to Orgon And so I always didn't like him. I'm like, dude,
you not even return to guy's calls? Now I love
him because he's a he's just a hooper. Let's keep well,
let's not shelve the hate. Go to hate real quick.
Let's get to hate real quick, real quick. God gotta
be quick. Gotta be quick. Jase dou you got more
(48:03):
hate than anybody I know. Go.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
I hated seeing Nicolo Nicolo Joic what's his name, Nicola.
I hated seeing him suck in the fourth quarter of
this day's game. Couldn't stand it. Hated seeing that.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
I hated seeing the Canadian hockey teams all lose this weekend.
On Saturday night, Edmonton lost a heartbreaker, although maybe they
shouldn't have won the game but on the last second
goal by Vegas. And then on Sunday maybe Leaves got
shut out by the Panthers and the Jets were blown
up by the Stars five to two.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Oh with y hate Sammy.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
It feels over for the Calves. And I know the injury,
you know the injury issues. They they fired back, you know,
they came to Indianapolis, they they won handily, but then
now they're down three to one and they just got
absolutely taken taken to the cleaners, and it just it
feels over for the Cavs. This series feels over. That's
my hate.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
I hate watching that the halftime of the NBA playoff
games on ESPN, not because those guys aren't talented, like
I actually think Kenrick Perkins is really prettyn good. I
think Bob Meyer says interesting stuff. Steven A obviously gets
his point across as well as anybody. But it's just
(49:25):
a weird studio team. And whereas the TNT guys, they're
entertaining more so than enlightening. They just keep searching for
an ESPN. And it's a hard watch, hard watch. And
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the the shores of the Bay of Green Green Bay,
Wisconsin and from Sherman Oaks, California. Welcome in. It's a Monday.
Hope you had a great weekend, truly great weekend, and
we're just glad to be with you. That's really what
it kind of comes down to. Rick Buker is going
(00:48):
to join us live at twenty five f the hour.
We'll talk all things playoffs with buke. Oh it's next hour. Sorry,
my bed, my bed, I get my hours confused. Okay.
In the meantime, let's talk. We got football this hour.
I got some Shore Sanders and some Dylan Gabriel to
talk about, plus George Pickens apparently going scorched earth on Pittsburgh,
(01:17):
and we got the press, we got game time, we
got the whole crew here. You heard Dan Byer, that
means my man Dan's here. Of course, you got Iowa
Sam or Big Apple Sam. And you have my guy
Jay Stu. Hey, I thought. I thought Jay Stu brought
up a great point. And I'm gonna make it as
(01:37):
my own. Okay, but I agree with him. That's why
I'm gonna make it as my own. Which is normally,
normally the talk of trading a superstar in the off season,
when we're in early May, it's May twelfth or close
to mid May. Normally it's like, really, you know, kd
(01:59):
is gonna get moved, Giannis is gonna get moved, Devin
Booker might get moved. I don't think Lebron gets moved,
but again, he may act like he's gonna get moved.
Joel embiid gonna come back. What does it look like
around him. Let's see what happens with the Celtics after
(02:21):
the season, because Perzingis doesn't feel like he can get
or can can stay healthy. Assuming they survive, and maybe
that's a big assumption. Down two games to one, they'll
be player moving. But normally May twelfth, you talk about
player moving like literally Normally, you talk about the NBA
draft lottery and there's not a crazy amount of interest,
(02:44):
even if the talent is crazy exciting Victor Webbin Yama
very exciting player. A couple of years ago, there was
some tanking going on for Wemby. But our interest in
the lottery and the draft has clearly waned over the years.
(03:04):
If you go back the last twenty thirty years, I
did ten of these drafts, and every year, and granted
the first year was Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Camelo, Anthony,
Chris Bosh, Darker, Milisic, et cetera, et cetera, it's not
close to that. And part of it is, don't we
don't feel like the one and done guys can help
(03:26):
right away, and the older guys feel like they're just
older guys. They're not great players, regardless of whether or
not we've had draft picks in the portal era be
successful or not. And the fact that the portal and
the money in college has weeded out a lot of
the hey, late first, early second guys they get in
the draft that are clearly aren't ready. They go back
(03:47):
to college and make more money and they do get older,
and they do get better. Very rarely do we get
excited about a draft or draft lottery. Very rarely do
we get excited about freecy on May twelfth. Here's the
Here's why it's different this year. You have the possible,
(04:07):
at least the possibility of Giannis wanted to be moved.
He's got two years left in his contract, and you
have a very unique incoming talent who is widely regarded
as the number one overall player, who's younger than guys
have been previous American players have been previously because he reclassified.
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He's only eighteen years old. And I'd be lying to
you if I didn't say at least a factor of
of the I don't know. The hope for him is
he he's ready to play at a very young age,
and he's the great white American hope. Again, I don't
(04:51):
think that's why you draft players, right, I mean, ninety
five percent or so of the best NBA players are
black men, whether they're from here or from Greece or
from from Canada or wherever. I you know, ninety five percent,
(05:14):
but the point is very high percentage, and so you're
never going to sacrifice the chance of having a great
player just because of the color of his skin. You're
still in the You're still in the business of winning games.
Nothing else matters. You want to fill up seats, win games,
win games, win games. But if the top prospect happens
(05:36):
to be white American born, which we have not had,
there's at least a curiosity to it. If not based
upon his play in college, his play with against tam
Usa last summer leads you to think like, hey, maybe
this guy could be different than so many in the past.
And it leads to the question, which is a very
(05:57):
simple one. Would it trade away the chance at Cooper
Flag who's gonna make far less money? And you're like,
you have to NBA guys, you have to have dollar
for dollar equate. You do, but you throw in everything
else in the kitchen sink. Really, it's your chading a
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top level NBA player for a very top level prospect.
Normally would you do it? And I think a lot
of it depends upon where the team is in their growth,
but also also can they get can they build around
(06:42):
Jannis for example, if Giannis was to be moved. And
I think it's a great question because my take is
pretty simple. I absolutely trade that pick, and I love
Cooper Flag, But I know what Johannison Tennakoumpo is like.
Is he the best the world?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Is he the easiest guy to play with of a superstar?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
He does appear to be a great human being. He
is a beloved teammate, and we've seen him win an
NBA Finals MVP. We've seen him kind of win a
game at that level on his own and close out
a series on his own. Everything from Cooper Flag is
hope that he can maybe someday possibly get to that level.
You know, the devil you know is better than the
(07:25):
devil you don't now. The flipside too, that is Gnnis
has been hurt a good amount. I don't think he's
in the downside of his career, but he's definitely not
at the apex of his career. And he makes a
crazy ton of money, whereas Cooper Flag would not. But
I think that's what makes this draft or this draft
(07:46):
lottery tonight really interesting because depending upon who gets the pick,
it's much more movable and the possibility becomes a higher
rate of probability if it's a if it's the right
(08:07):
team that wants to win now, right, Cooper Flag is
going to be a hell of a player in the NBA.
Do I think he's gonna be a top five, top
ten player in the NBA. I don't know. I don't
know what that looks like. Once he gets the league.
I think, yeah, it feels like it. He's up for
the challenge. He plays well, big games, He's played against
(08:27):
older guys. He can do. He can do a ton
on the floor. And if you don't like the way
he he shoots middies off the dribble, just know that
eventually it'll get to where he's those are. They're more
a higher percentage of threes, and as he develops more
develops more range, it'll be even better. But like the
guy's legit that said, I know what Yiannis is, I
(08:49):
would definitely I have said. Somebody said, hey, basically, it's
straight up Giannis for Cooper Flag, Like, I know what
I'm getting there. I take Giannis. But at least it's
an interesting conversation, whereas in so many years in the past,
I don't think it's that interesting. And you know, aj
(09:12):
Debansa is considered the top prospect going to college this year.
There are reports he's gonna make seven million dollars to
go to BYU. And if you've seen some of the
miked up segments with AJ debands that you're like, yeah,
I'm not sure I love him. Cooper Flag does not
have the same uh polarizing trash talk in his background.
(09:35):
But I think the draft lottery is really interesting, and
it's really interesting because this is the rare year where
you can actually have that discussion, and it's a way.
Normally you go like number one pick for you, honis,
move him goodbye. But when you have a generational sort
of talent plus a generational sort of story, and again,
(09:57):
let's not avoid it. I don't think that Cooper Flag
is rated how he's rated because of the color of
his skin. I don't. I don't think anybody would say that.
I think he's rated how he's rated because at every
level he's been the best player. But you can't deny
the fact that America hasn't had like who's the best
(10:21):
Tyler Hero is probably the best American born white player
in the NBA. Is that who we're going with?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So I do think it makes it interesting. Does it
make it a drawing card? I don't know. I don't
know why other people watch basketball, and I don't like
being told this is why other people watch. I like
to see things how they played out. Did Duke's number spike? No,
people still watch Duke. But I think that his talent
(10:52):
is what makes him interesting, because he is, without anyone's
any question, the number one prospect, and he's an American
born kid, and he seems to be one of these fluid,
big guys who can play anywhere on the court, kind
of like I honest. But again, if you take him,
you're more hoping that he could eventually become He'll never
become Yannis because he's a different player, but that level
(11:14):
of dominance, whereas with Giannis, you know what he is.
Let me ask you by it real quick, because you're
a Bucks fan, and I don't think there's any doubt
that though you don't watch every game, you watch a
lot more Bucks basketball than I have. But if I
told you Cooper Flag and what he could become or
(11:35):
Yiannis and what he is, what would you do? And again,
I know that the salaries don't match and you have
to do other stuff and throwing things in the bag,
but that's kind of what it comes down to what
would you do well?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
So just to give a little background, because we talked
about this a couple of weeks ago in passing after
the Dame injury, because it just didn't look like the
Bucks future was that great at that time. And it's
like when your team college football loses, you look at
recruiting lists, the same thing in college basketball, what do
(12:04):
we have coming in?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
What can we do?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
In transfer portal? Now, you're always looking ahead, And I
thought about that. I would rather at this point, if
I'm the Milwaukee Bucks, have Cooper Flagg, then Yannis. But
there's also the point of for the teams that are
likely to get the number one overall pick, they don't
(12:28):
need Yannis. They'd just be what the Milwaukee Bucks likely
are right now. If you were Charlotte, or if you
were the Wizards, or if you were the Jazz, and
those are the teams that are the best chances of
winning the lottery and getting the number one overall pick.
Not only are you doing a swap, but you're giving
other pieces as well away to Milwaukee as part of
that deal that I don't even I don't even think
(12:52):
it's realistic in this conversation. Now, if Brooklyn would jump
up and get number one. Maybe a different story there,
maybe another team jumping up and getting that opportunity. But yeah,
it's just it's it's tricky because I think the Bucks
could win forty two games with Giannis and without Dame
and went ten and four without Dame. At the end
of the year, there's gonna be some changeover. But you
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mentioned the points against him and the health, and it's
a battle of wills in the NBA with these two
topics because number one potential it's what we always draft,
but number two superstars. So I'm not a big Marvel
DC sort of guy, but it seems like it's a
battle of those two titans coming at each other on
(13:35):
which one you would go with and I would go
with for the Bucks scenario. On this case, I would
rather have Cooper Flagg's future.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Wow, Jannis has not made any firmness. Is this from
Scham's on the Bucks future after the franchise third consecutive
posts He's an exit in the first round, But for
the first time his career, Yannis is open mind about
exploring whether his best long term fit is remaining in
Milwaukee or playing elsewhere. League sources to all ESPN teams
have approached the Bucks frequently over the years about the
(14:03):
availability of Joanniston Tenacumpo as a normal exercise, and they
expected it's expected to ramp up due diligence during the
combine week, according to the league's sources. So again, we
have time for it. But the fact that he's at
least open to exploring tells you where he is. And
(14:25):
I'm with you. I actually I agree with you from
a Bucks perspective. I think the rest of it is
really interesting, really interesting. Like take take Brooklyn for example,
Dan right, they've had their best teams when they haven't
had those troops. Now I could sit there and go like, hey,
if I'm fair, When they had KD and they had
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Kyrie and they had James Harden, Harden wasn't healthy, but
they were going to beat the Bucks. Kyrie gets hurt
and then KD still could have won the series had
his toe on the line in Game seven. So they
haven't been that far off. But where they like, does
Giannis make them a championship team? And my answer would
(15:10):
be no, no, whereas Cooper flag like that makes Brooklyn
way more interesting and it continues to build with what
they do, so I'm very much team dependent upon what
I do.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I think that the closest thing that we have in
this scenario for the history of what we've seen is
when the Calves traded Andrew Wiggins in the deal to
bring in Kevin Love, that they chose Big three for
Lebron in his return than developing Andrew Wiggins and keeping
him on that team with Lebron and Kyrie, and I
(15:47):
think it's a it's they're not apples to apples, but
that's the where the time where the Cavs said, Okay,
we will trade that number one overall pick. We will
trade that guy for a substantial piece that we feel
that could bring us the title. Yes, now, it was
this deal that I think that we could come to,
and looking at.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
It, it's it's a great parallel. I'd say the differences, right,
the differences. Super Flag is a much more well regarded
prospect than Andrew Wiggins's. Right, this is a year in
which there's absolutely number one pick that you absolutely think
should be an NBA All Star. Whereas Andrew Wiggins was
always a what if sort of guy? Right, what if
(16:28):
sort of guy? And that was that was the EMBIID year,
wasn't it? Yes, Yeah, And so you know if you
can redraft, like remember Embiid missed his entire first year
and Beid got hurt before the draft when he's playing
college basketball. So would you have made that would that
move had made sense if it was a healthy Joel Embiid?
I think the answer is no. I think the answer
(16:51):
is no. But it's it's it's just a fascinating deal
where normally we've gotten to this place like eh half lottery,
schmaf lottery. But now when you factor in a prospect
who is absolutely regarded as the number one guy, that's
Cooper Flag and the potential for a superstar somewhat in
(17:13):
his prime. I don't know how many more years we
view him as such, but he's still a really talented
guy that can obviously help carry a basketball team. Could
be on the move. And the only reason I say
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(18:54):
question is on Oklahoma City. Right, last year they kind
of got pushed around and you'll lose to Denver. Uh.
This year you go in and all of a sudden,
you're trailing excuse me, Dallas. This year you're you're trailing
Denver in the series, and with a quick turnaround, they
get a big win. But what what are your thoughts
(19:15):
on this team now that we've seen them be pushed
in the same series they're pushed in last year.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Well, I think if it comes down to having to
win the kind of close games that generally playoff games are,
we've seen We've seen one or the other, Right, We've
seen these these nip and tuck back and forth, uh
down to the last second, miraculous finishes, and then we've
seen the absolute blowouts. But I think that that by
(19:43):
and large, playoff games are decided by your ability to
defend and execute offensively in the last in the last minute,
possession by possession, and that's where Oklahoma City is just
in some ways a victim of its own success in
that during the regular season they played a total of
(20:03):
five games that were decided by three points or less
and they were one and four in those five games.
That's that's that's at least half, it's not a third
of the games that other teams played. The vast majority
of their games, their their tempo, their defense combined with
(20:25):
their their offense created blowouts. And so I'm watching a
team that is that is trying to figure out in
real time how should we play possession by consession at
the end of these games, And they happened to be
up against the Denver Nuggets teams this time around that
has gads of experience in those kind of games, and
(20:47):
you can see the difference in the execution. I think
this last game, the only reason it went okay Cee's
way is because of miss free throws ultimately by Denver,
and I think they ran into the same thing with
Dallas last year. So that's something that has to be
developed and they have to determine whether they have the
personnel to do that as good as Shaye Alexander and
Jalen Williams are.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
So ultimately can they win Do they win this series?
Speaker 7 (21:15):
I don't, honestly, I believe the Denver is going to
win it for that very reason. And if they and
if Oklahoma City somehow winds up surviving this this series.
I don't see them getting to the finals. And I
think there's just too much growth, there's too much understanding
(21:37):
of how to play in high pressure situations. I still
think there's learning to be done there by them, and
they have to go through some teams that that have
more experience ultimately at that and and that's not where
I was, you know, over the course of the season,
I thought, you know, I just didn't want to ignore
(21:57):
just how good their regular season record was and how
good their defense was. I thought that that could carry
the day. But I just I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I just.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
I see a team that's still searching for what's the
best way, what do we want to go to, how
do we want to play? Where are we going to
operate from when when we're in a last second situation
and having to figure that out as opposed to everybody
having a familiarity with what you want to do. I mean,
I think you know this from having played and coached, Like,
(22:31):
that's not a place that you want to be. You
want to know every whether you whether you execute successfully
or not. You want to have like everybody knowing this
is what we're going to do and our star player
is going to be doing this, looking to do this
so that everybody knows how to react off of it.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Well, I would, I would add this, And even in
the game that they won yesterday, there were some bad
possessions late where it becomes Shay one on one, take it,
take it contested three, and you're like, what happened to
all that cool stuff you were doing the whole year
offensively to create space for him, and then it kind
(23:10):
of results resorts to everybody else. So I I is
that that? And look, Minnesota's done the same thing too
with Anthony Edwards at times where it's just you know, people,
you go from great ball movement to all of a
sudden of the game, let's just watch our best player
go one on one and try and save us. But
that part really surprised me. I don't think it's just players.
I think coaching staff also has to learn the differences. Here.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
We saw that, but I mean as experienced the coach
as Tyron Lewis. He did the same thing with the Clippers.
Clippers were much more effective when the when the ball
is moving, and simply a lot of it is just
just makes decisions quicker, like you're either going to go,
you're not gonna go. And and Minnesota just does is
(23:56):
another team. It is so maddening when the ball moves
and you just got one two, you're either attacking or
you're moving the ball and then and then looking for
something else. They're just so much more effective. And whether
it's Julius Randall or Anthony Edwards, when I see them
holding the ball and staring at the defense and like
(24:18):
three seconds tickoff, four seconds tickoff, I'm like, this is
going nowhere, Like this, make a decision and keep it moving.
And and that coaches allow that to happen or sometimes
even invite it at the end of the games is
still it's still extraordinary to me that that, considering the consequences,
(24:42):
that it is allowed to happen.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Doug Ot Leave sure hear in fox Portray that's the
voice of of Rick Buker. Okay, the it was the
weirdest game there Saturday night with the Warriors right where
they don't make it three in the first half and
they're winning, they start making threes in the second half,
and then all of a sudden they get kind of
boat raced at the end of the game. But it
(25:05):
did feel like, you know, the they obviously this team
is really pretty good defensively. Can they keep it together
for when Steph returns.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
I'm going to be surprised if Steph comes back. First
of all, let's start there. I think there's a lot
of optimism that when I look at his age and
I look at the risk that comes with with trying
to play the way that he plays with a hamstring issue,
I just I find it hard to believe that it's realistic.
(25:39):
I know everybody's like, can they just hold serve? Can
they get him back for a game six or a
game seven? I look Minnesota's indifference or they're seemingly not
being all that urgent to get this series over and
not risk Staf coming back is alarming to me. The
(26:03):
level of basketball IQ with some of their best players
is alarming to me.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So, I.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
You know, Golden State has done as much as you
could possibly ask them to do. I think sometimes the
talent differential is just too much to overcome. But the
fact that the fact that Golden State, based off of
their system and everybody understanding what needs to be done
in the general basketball IQ of their team, the fact
(26:37):
that they've made it competitive you know, for at various
stages of the game. Is I think is more a
statement about the Minnesota Timberwolves. None of these games should
have been close, and they and they haven't been at
various times. And then Minnesota just completely lets off the pedal.
(26:57):
And the problem is that if you the farther any
team advances, the more your ability to stay locked in
and execute for forty three, forty four, forty five minutes
in the game. Everybody has lulls, Everybody has those, those
brain cramps and those and those periods where things just
(27:19):
kind of go sideways. That happens with every team. Nobody plays.
You can talk about playing forty eight minutes. Nobody plays
forty eight minutes of perfect basketball. It never happens. But
it's like a muscle. You develop that ability to stay
focused and when things go sideways to rein it back
in and get back on task. Like that's the muscle
(27:41):
that you develop so that it goes from thirty five
to forty to forty two minutes. And the Timberwolves are
showing no interest in developing that muscle or the ability
to play consistently for the better part of the game.
And I think that that's going to bite them at
some point down the road here, and until they get that,
(28:03):
then they're not coming close to winning a championship.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
All right. The Knicks are still up to games to one,
but after falling behind by twenty game one and game
two and come back and winning, they fall behind by
thirty and don't recover. Yeah, how do you first see
the rest of this series?
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Ah? Man? I mean it's the beauty of these playoffs, right,
with all of these, with all of these series, is
that you you have these games where you're like, Okay,
if it goes this way, then I think I can
pretty much predict how this is going to play out,
and then you have a game that just throws everything sideways.
(28:41):
I still believe. I'm going to believe the same as
with I think this is very similar to the okayc
in Denver. It's a matter of controlling the tempo and
how well is Boston going to shoot the three. For
the better part of this season, they've shot the shot
the three incredibly well, but they're they've become a little
bit of a one trick pony when it comes to that.
(29:03):
And I believe that the physicality that's beinging allowed in
the game now more than I've seen in years. It
ratcheted up in last year's playoffs, but this is this
is a whole other level. I do think that that's
affecting threes, whether it's the the you know, taking guy's
legs a little bit, or whether it's den you know,
(29:24):
allowing the contact at the rim now means you can
be a little more physical, which means the timing on
the on the perimeter on the kickouts is not quite
the same. Guys that can't make that pass as easily. Uh,
I'm I'm going to bet on on on the Knicks
in the way that they play. I just think that
(29:46):
they have more ways to score than than Boston has
developed over the course of the season. And Boston's confidence
at both ends of the floor is highly dependent on
the three ball falling. And you know, if I'm going
to bet on one thing or another, I'm gonna bet against
that carrying them through for another couple of wins.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
You got the Jazz, the Wizards, the Hornets, Uh, Sixers, Pelicans, Nets,
and Raptors. Yeah, which of those teams in your mind
would trade Cooper Flag if they could get Jannis.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
Oh, I didn't see that question coming. That's an interesting,
interesting question. If they're smart, all of them, every single
one of them. And I'm a big Cooper Flag fan
in terms of what he and they would be doing
him a favor I'd like to see him with and
maybe not Cooper Flag going to Milwaukee. That's tough because
(30:52):
he kind of has to step into I don't think
that's a ready made team to go forward. What I'd
like to see Cooper Flag. Ideally, where I'd like to
see Cooper a Flag end up is where he can
be a number two or three.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
I don't want him going in and immediately having to
be the cornerstone of a new situation, especially if it's
not a developed culture. But and and that's why I
say any of those teams, even you know, Toronto, I
think is a little farther down the line I like.
I like a lot of what they have. I don't
know how well the Cooper Flag Scottie Barnes combination works.
(31:27):
That would be my only my my only hesitation there.
But a lot of those other teams, like I do
not want to see him in Washington, I don't want
to see him in Charlotte like those those teams have
established stars that I would think are are not going
to be good for his development. So and Philadelphia is
(31:51):
such a mixed bag, and I don't it's it's this
is kind of a treacherous situation for Cooper Flag if
we want him to become everything that we think he
can become, because the candidates are not are not exactly
star studded.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
No, no, they're no, they're not. It's gonna be fascinating. Hey,
you great stuff as always, man, thanks for taking us
the time with us. Let's talk next week.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Sounds good.
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I we got to get to Celtics Knicks, which is tonight. Okay,
you remember Friday. I was talking like Celtics Knicks was Friday,
but it really wasn't. But just like Nuggets and uh
(33:28):
Oklahoma City short turnaround because of the game that was
on Saturday and now the game is on Monday. We'll
get to that. Plus Rick Buker be our guest. We'll
talk about the draft lottery, whether Cooper Flagg the rights
to him could be traded for a Giannis.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
You never really closed that loop. By the way, we
close the loop from Friday, Like you said that you
had a tough choice on Friday, the Knick Celtics or
the stand up back you were going to And then
the entire controversy about who opened for the stand up act.
Was it a metal band? Was there an opening?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
There were a bunch of other I'm glad you brought
that up. I can't remember all of the comedian's names.
There was no metal band, Doug.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
I was thinking about how ridiculous that I would even
assume a metal band would Why would we Why would
we blow over one's ear drums out before having a
soft spoken comedian come up on stage. I don't make
any sense. It made funny, and it was funny. I
gotta admit it was.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
It was funny, but I gotta be honest with you.
I'm not actually sure. I don't agree with that. I
don't know of a metal band, But you don't necessary
because I'll tell you what happened, and then I'll circle
back to why it's not crazy what you said? So
Nate has I think there were three other comedians, plus
there was a host to his comedian, and they did
(34:50):
I think eight minutes a piece or so eight ten
minutes a piece, and they were all very good, very good.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
You better have your best stuff. If you only got
ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Well that's how long a set normally is isn't it,
Jay stew you ten minutes?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yes, is like eight to ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I show? Uh no, so uh one, I would. I
would encourage you to go. It's a great show. What
I loved about the show was it was probably a
little too Nate's humor is probably a little bit more
like our age. You know, you probably gotta be upper
(35:28):
thirties and all up to there's a lot of wife, kids, marriage,
and then normal lifetime stuff. He did do a doctor
Pepper riff, which was very, very funny. But no one,
not one curse word, not that I'm like, look, I
cursed like a sailor when I'm not on radio and
occasionally sometimes I get clipped. Sorry about that Sam from Friday. Anyway,
(35:50):
not one curse word, and they were all kind of
not over the top. Their comedic style sort of matched
and married married his Now the downside to that is
I'm walking out and my son Hayes. It was his
first comedy show ever, and he was like, I like
the heavy guy. I thought he was way funnier. What's
(36:11):
his name? Like, I don't remember, It's like he was
I connected with him more. He was funnier to me,
which is like if you have four comedians, sometimes one
of the guys again, because it's only ten minutes and
an hour is a long time, you're kind of stretching
jokes and taking pregnant pauses and whatever, and he has
a slower pacing. Anyway, the one thing about having another
(36:33):
comedian is they can top the actual headliner, whereas if
he had a metal band, not top of it.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Right, it's a different experience, right.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
But it's a really good show.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
But like it just I've seen. I went to go
see an ACDC tribute band once and Bill Burr and
other comedians actually opened up for that show. It's right
before COVID hits. But I'm I'm just thinking back. I've
never heard of a band. Plus you have to set
up all the drums and all equipment. I've never heard
What was I thinking on Friday? I've never heard of
a a musical show opening up for a I'm sure
(37:02):
it happens from time time, but a musical show opening
up for a stand up act, that just doesn't doesn't
happen that often.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Don't think, No, it does not, it does not. Okay,
So I love the show. I'm gonna use I'm not
gonna use that as my love.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
By the way, how did how did uh mister I
can never say his name Bargazzi? Yes? How did he
fare with the I saw your story one of your
social media starts? How did you fare with the three
hundred and sixty degree stage? He has great people all around.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Him, the theater in the round, theater in the round.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
It's like a little disorienting. It's could be.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I think, you know, he toured last year and I
think it was I don't know, but I think it
was the same stage setup. So this was only his
second show of this tour.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
You gotta like turn around. We can't can't ignore the
people behind you. You can't have them before.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, I mean around. He just kind of walks in
sort of paces and it kind of works. It feels
like he knows it did not feel like it was
his first theater in the round. So pros pro and
good show.
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And for those that are wondering, Wage War in New
Orleans started out with self Sacrifice, Low Stitch, and then
Gravity and then they went to high Horse, god Speed
in Nail five. Do you know the only reason then
they ended with is this how it ends? So that's
how it ended. In New Orleans on Friday nights.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
The only reason that this became a controversy is because
our very on Ryan Berschinger, who I think listens to
this band. He immediately he was listening to the show
and he messages me and he's like, now that's not right, man.
The wage war is in New Orleans and so and
I just started. It started unraveling from there. So thank
you to Ryan Berschinger for bringing this to light.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
What's funny was so my daughter, as you guys know,
metal head, herself metal musician, and she was actually listening
to the show on Friday and she's like, really, they're
opening in Green Bay. I was like, no, no, Grace, No,
She's like, no, I heard I heard Sam say it.
(39:04):
He was sure of it.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Take that with a grain salt.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
It's very funny. Let's get to love and hate.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (39:11):
God? I love you?
Speaker 5 (39:12):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Meet these Clay hay is love love love hate hate? Hate?
Hey hate hate hate? What'd you love from the weekend?
What'd you hate for the weekend? Hope you had a
great weekend? Hope the weather was good. Let's start with
our resident Lovah bo Dan Byer Dan Wold.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
You le resident lover boy. I'll take it. And again
we step outside of the world of sports, but I
think there's many a man like me and probably women
as well, that love that first mo. Now in California,
we don't have four seasons, but obviously, Doug, where you are,
(39:52):
there's a first mo of the year that you have
of the lawn and it's glorious. But I told you
I'm redoing my front lawn, the little area that we have,
And on Saturday, the first mow of the year happened.
And even though I've got some patchy spots that need
to fill in, the first mow.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Was a success. It looked a lot better mode than
it was just growing.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
But there is something about it.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
I stood there.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I just love it right, Yes, it was.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
It was amazing and you just look at it and
then you look at it from a different angle. Then
you walk around and look at it from another angle.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Oh it's so okay. I'm going to hop in on
your glory. Okay, okay. So did I tell you guys
last week that I bought a mower.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
I saw it, so that needs to be Yeah, tiight
into this because I saw you with a John Deere.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yes, so so that okay. So look, when I was
at ESPN, I had a rioting mower and I loved it,
loved it and would i'd mowed my own grass. And
then when I was at CBS in Westport, Connecticut, We're
there for three years. I don't think I didn't have
the mower because I sold it. We moved and we
(41:01):
had somebody we had like a lawn service, and it
was a beautiful yard too, Like it was so easy
to do, easy to do, like the lines on. We
had like a little baseball field in the backyard. So
when I bought my home here in Green Bay, like
the first thing was like, ooh, I can mow my
own lawn. And just you know, last year I had
zero time, none. So I was looking in a Facebook
(41:24):
marketplace and I was like, ooh, should I bought, like,
you know what, I can afford a new mower? Wow,
I can afford a new mower. Dang it. So I
went down just like every other Tom Dick and Harry
and I went to home depot and first I was
going to get the less expensive one, and I was like,
you know what, I did only get the forty two
inch not the forty eight inch. But not only did
(41:47):
I mow my own grass, but my son was here
and I taught him how to use a riding mower,
which I granted, I understand if you're a real man,
you push mow it like like Dan did whatever. But
it's like I was like, dude, you can just meet
a little summer job. Just go door to door, like, hey,
mow the lawn. And uh yeah, it was so a
(42:08):
double wind for me. One mowed my own lawn. Two
taught my son how to use a riding mower, and
I felt all a better for it. So I hear,
and when it was done, I did the exact same
thing you're talking about. I'm like, I am man, I'm
lawn smell. That smells like baseball season, right, It's so great.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
Yes, I have questions for both of you. Actually, well, Dan, please,
I just want to. I just want to.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
I want for the record because I would feel guilty
if I didn't mention this. Our gardeners mowed the lawn.
But the reason why the gardeners mowed the lawn is
because our lawn is so small and there's not a
lot of room to keep the more because just of
our property size. But so there's gardeners that do are
neighbor's house, that do our house, but they mowed the lawn.
But I have been thinking of do I just get
(42:51):
one of those little blade cutters, you know those manual
walcome yeah, pre motor pre. I feel like that wouldn't
take up as much nearly as much room. I could
keep it on the side of the house, or I
could try to stick it in a corner of our garage.
So those are the options I have been looking at.
I got to keep those sharp. Yes, But go ahead, Sam.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
Questions, Well, okay, so Doug, it makes sense that if
you're in the Midwest, you kind of get your first
mow in you know, April or even May. Maybe if
it's you know, you're in a month, or you're in
a place like Green Bay, it's a little colder, a
little longer, so the grass doesn't start growing until a
little later. But Dan, you said, what about the grass
growing at your place all through the winter? I mean,
(43:33):
because out here we have temperatures in the fifties and sixties,
is we got a little rain finally, so is your
grass just not growing the whole time until recently? Well,
I killed it in feues, right, you're starting over, yes,
but again there are people who are saying that you
shouldn't shouldn't grow your lawns in the spring. You do
it in the fall, and then it has enough time
(43:54):
for roots to be stronger. And I guess maybe i'll
find out in July and August if I made a
bad decision.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Hmm, okay, uh jasetu, what's you left in the weekend?
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Shoho Tani hit a go ahead, three run homer on Friday.
But that's not what I loved. I love the fact
that he mocked the Diamondbacks. This guy named this clown
name Lordus Gorriel. I hope I got his name wrong.
A bunch of Diamondbacks are hitting home runs off of
Dodger relievers throughout the latter part of the game. Lordius
Gorriel maybe being the biggest offender of the bat flip
(44:29):
and uh Shoho Tani, which I love a lot of
things about Showhy, but he's fairly boring. In fact, he's
almost overly thoughtful and considerate. I don't know if you've
ever noticed this, but he'll follow ball off and alask
if the catcher's okay. But he went full mockery. He
hit a three run homer and he mocked Lordus Gorriel.
(44:49):
And then the next day Lordis Gorriel got a fastball
in the back, which scene. So thank you Shoho Tani
for lowering yourself to the new baseball standard.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Wait, so did he pimp a home run? Oh?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Show, hey pimped it badly? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (45:05):
It was awesome, badly show Hey? Oh Tani?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Uh Sam, what'd you leave for the weekend?
Speaker 5 (45:15):
By the way, I can, I can kind of weave
this into love because riding a lawnmower is just oh man,
it's like it's easy and it's it's fun, I guess,
unless you have to do it as a job, but
it's it's you know, that's how you spend your weekends. Man,
that's good stuff. My love I had. I had a
nice mix of social get togethers and you know, getting
(45:38):
stuff done at home. My love is my weekend. I
got some new sports related shirts. One of them I'm
wearing right now. It says Portal University. It's kind of
mocking the whole you know, transfer, Portal out of control.
It got so hot in my apartment it was nineties,
high nineties on Saturday, so I escaped after I know,
I was doing some cleaning and then got out of
(45:58):
there when hung out with producer lead to lap pool side.
So that was nice and took in a lot of
NBA basketball. It was just a great weekend, a little
you know, the good bounce of socializing and doing stuff
on your own at home. Took in a lot of NBA.
It was beautiful, man, that was my love.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
H that's beautiful. That's that's that's beautiful. Well. In addition
to the weather, In addition to UH buying my buy
buy my first brand new mower, right, I'd bought always
bought a US mower uh in the past. I I
just I loved watching one guy in the NBA this weekend.
(46:39):
His name is Peyton Pritchard because so oftentimes, you know,
you talk about, hey, you got to find a role,
and if you're a Peyton Pritchard, you would think his
role was like a t J. McConnell, like get up guard, dudes,
just be a dog. But he's become this amazing scoring weapon.
(46:59):
He's average fourteen and a half a game. But if
you look in the NBA season, like what he did,
I think on Saturday, that's not an outlier. That's how
his season was. And it's like the untold story of
these Celtics. They're like, well it is Jason Tatum good?
Is he bad? Is he alpha? Is her star? Is
her superstar? What is he? Peyton Pitcher was just so dynamic.
(47:21):
And there's a guy who I don't know, if you've
seen his workouts, like he does these dribbling workouts in
his garage in Oregon, which are insane. Did he score
like ninety three points in like a pro am game?
I just I don't know. Feels like self made, dude.
And despite my brother, when my brothers in Oregon State,
(47:42):
he tried to recruit Peyton and Peyton didn't even return
his calls because all he want to do is go
to Orgon And so I always didn't like him. I'm like, dude,
you not even return to guy's calls? Now I love
him because he's a he's just a hooper. Let's keep well,
let's not shelve the hate. Go to hate real quick.
Let's get to hate real quick, real quick. God gotta
be quick. Gotta be quick. Jase dou you got more
(48:03):
hate than anybody I know. Go.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
I hated seeing Nicolo Nicolo Joic what's his name, Nicola.
I hated seeing him suck in the fourth quarter of
this day's game. Couldn't stand it. Hated seeing that.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
I hated seeing the Canadian hockey teams all lose this weekend.
On Saturday night, Edmonton lost a heartbreaker, although maybe they
shouldn't have won the game but on the last second
goal by Vegas. And then on Sunday maybe Leaves got
shut out by the Panthers and the Jets were blown
up by the Stars five to two.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Oh with y hate Sammy.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
It feels over for the Calves. And I know the injury,
you know the injury issues. They they fired back, you know,
they came to Indianapolis, they they won handily, but then
now they're down three to one and they just got
absolutely taken taken to the cleaners, and it just it
feels over for the Cavs. This series feels over. That's
my hate.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
I hate watching that the halftime of the NBA playoff
games on ESPN, not because those guys aren't talented, like
I actually think Kenrick Perkins is really prettyn good. I
think Bob Meyer says interesting stuff. Steven A obviously gets
his point across as well as anybody. But it's just
(49:25):
a weird studio team. And whereas the TNT guys, they're
entertaining more so than enlightening. They just keep searching for
an ESPN. And it's a hard watch, hard watch. And
that's Lob and a
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Doug Gottlieb
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