May 9, 2017 • 39 mins
Doug argues that Cavaliers F LeBron James might have faced easier competition in the East, but the Warriors have also benefited from an easy road through the playoffs. He reacts to the latest news surrounding Mets ace-pitcher Matt Harvey and why his time in New York might be done. Plus NBA All-Star and Dunk Champion Cedric Ceballos joins the show to give his thoughts on the level of competition in today’s NBA.
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for you. Great stuff for you, including uh We'll take
you around the country. I'll take it in New York.
We'll find out about the New York mess with with
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Harvey uh and uh boy, what a what a disaster
that is with the New York Mets. When you're your star,
I guess former Ace has to be checked up on
when they call him sick for work, we said. Saballos,
the former dunk champion NBA All Stars, gonna join us
in about ten minutes. We'll talk to him about the
NBA Playoffs, which I want to get to. In a second,
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Kevin Dan will join us. We'll discuss the l A Clippers.
What happens there strong rumors that there could be a
potential move of one of the Big Three from the clips.
US take you to Golden State where the Warriors sweep
away the Utah Jazz. Let's start with the Warriors in
the Jazz because there's a growing I don't know if
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it's a pushback against Lebron James and likely seventh consecutive
appearance in the NBA finals. But there's a contextualization is that?
Is that an actual word or did I just make
it up? I think it's an actual word. The contextualization
of the Lebron argument, which is, hey, look, seven years
in a row in the finals is awesome and the
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fact that he hasn't been hurt is amazing. Well, let's
also be completely candid. The East has been down for
all of those seven years, and who he's beaten to
get there takes at least a little bit away from
the fact that he's always gotten there. And if you
don't think that's the case, if you don't think that
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argument is being made by more than just sports yakkers
like myself. Takeular us into Draymond Green after they dismantled
the Utah Jazz. What he said about the Cleveland Cavaliers
and how they've been playing. Then, Cleveland's been playing great basketball,
you know, you washed down, it's been amazing, and then
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you watched other teams that they're playing against not so
much so. I like, that's just my opinion though, But whatever,
who cares First of all, when you when you when
you say something you can't like, you don't have to
back your way out of it. Right, here's a hot take,
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and let me well, that's just my opinion. Who cares
on in either your opinion matters because you're sharing with us,
or doesn't matter, and keep it to yourself. Now, there
is a certain irony to it, right. That's the Golden
State Warriors, who two years ago went through an NBA
plass where never was the point guard of the other
team healthy. Drew Holiday wasn't healthy first two games he
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took down the Pelicans. Um as they went on the playoffs,
every team Mike Conley wasn't healthy for part of that series.
They took down the Grizzlies. I'm trying to think who
else was hurt on their run two. They didn't obviously
have to play the Thunder that year because that was
the year the Thunder missed out in the playoffs to
the Pelicans, and then in the NBA Finals, Kyrie Irvan
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was hurt, Kevin Love was hurt. There's one other series
I'm I'm missing in terms of who they took down.
They didn't face the Spurs and didn't face the Clippers,
they were on the other side of the bracket. And
so this is the same Warriors team that had an
easy run and had an easier time of the Cavaliers.
Is what are he's saying inaccurate? It's not, it's not.
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It should also be pointed out that the Warriors, even
this year, even this year, probably won't have to play
the Spurs, didn't have to play the Clippers, and though
they've dominated the Clippers, like, let's be honest, the Clippers
at full strength or the Jazz at and the Jazz
weren't healthy. Golbert wasn't healthy coming back, and they didn't
have George Hildy's past couple of games are starting point
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guard last three games. So like, look, he's not wrong
if he's like the Warriors, you're playing the Calves are
playing great, But we know the West is better than
the East, maybe not as much as it's been better
in the past. There's also the irony two or the
the pot calling the kettle. If you will right the pot,
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you guys have an easy road. And wait a second, dude,
you guys had an easier road because George Hill's hurt
and he didn't play the Clippers. You guys had an
easy road when you won the won the championship two
years ago. What are you talking about? So um? I
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look at it, and I think it's okay to give
contexts as long as you're being fair. It's also okay
to point out that Lebron James overachieved when he got
to the finals the first time in Cleveland. He was
in the finals four consecutive years in Miami. The first
year was not nearly as good a roster didn't have
ray Allen Um and he was so good in those finals,
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even the ones he lost. The two of them. There
was a lot of talk and he probably should have
been the finals m v P and his team lost
in the NBA finals. So is Lebron facing weak competition,
I guess and in the past. Sure, But the West
is not nearly as dominant as it's been over the
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East in the past. A good reason for the East
being down is that all the good players are playing
with Lebron. Much like in the West. So many of
the good players have gathered up on the Golden State Warriors,
and it's just cheeky. It's just interesting that here the
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Warriors are beneficiaries of of injuries to make playoff runs,
making their playoff runs easier, dismantling the Utah Jazz, who
are good but didn't have their point guard Rudy Gobert
was still kind of banged up to start the series,
and they were dominant. Oh but they you could say
the exact same thing that Draymond said about the Calves.
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They've been great, but I've been unimpressed by their competition,
and say that about the Utah Jazz. And could you
make the case that they were both injured with Andrew
Bogutt and suspended for a game with Draymond Green when
they lost to the Calves last year after being up
three games to one. You absolutely could. But you still
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had a three games to one lead, you still had
two games at home, and you had Game seven at
home and you lost to me. My takeaway is, I'm
okay with Draymond poking the bear. I'm that's who one,
that's who Draymond is. I'm okay with these teams not
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liking each other, because there has to be some reason
to keep me intrigued from an utter league and completely unintriguing,
not very interesting NBA playoffs to start right like this,
is not. And the reason for intrigue is with two
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best teams that have loaded up with players that have
faced each other the last two years that have had
that injuries have caused as much of the championship as
the talent. And of course we had a great game
seven last year. Are likely meet up for six or
seven games, and they don't like each other and they're
tweaking each other about each other's history. Right, I think
that's good. We got phone calls to take. Possibly you
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got said Sambolos to join us. Man, We got a
lot of stuff to get too. Do you see this story?
I aired Dan Buyer reporting the story at the top
of the hour where the judge has vacated the Aaron
Hernandez verdict. It's a and like, look, this is a
there's lots of stuff about court that you don't know about.
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Like did anybody else who's not a lawyer know this
could have happened that a guy who was convicted beyond
a reasonable doubt in a court of law for the
murder of Odin Lloyd could have that conviction thrown out
simply because his appeals hadn't been heard. I would have
thought it's the other way around, hadn't heard the appeals,
so the conviction stands, right, doesn't that kind that logical?
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Like what's the purpose of a trial if when the
guy dies all of a sudden like, ah, you know what,
that never happened. Um now, end of the day doesn't
really matter. I don't think his daughter that many people
think we'll see a financial windfall. I don't think that
will come to be, even if they declare bankruptcy, because
they're gonna, you know, maybe they'll be able to hide
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some money more for his former fiance, saying for his daughter.
But Odin Lloyd's family is going to sue them in
civil court, and he's any anything that they can get,
they'll they will get. But what a strange loophole that
I didn't know existed? Like I, I guess I learned
something today. But I also learned that you can murder
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somebody who you used to consider a friend in cold blood,
leave them in an industrial park, have your d n
A all over the place, have cell phones track and
you have a video of you celebrating the fact that
you just shot a friend. Have your fiance, the mother
of your daughter, likely take the weapon that you used
to kill your friend out of your residence, I mean,
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get caught even even um enclosing arguments, His defense lawyer
at the time said, well, maybe he was at the scene,
but he maybe he didn't pull the trigger. Right, he
used the fall guy argument at the very last second.
They had him hook line and sing kerk. He was
guilty beyond a reasonable that it didn't take time at all. Like, hey, guys,
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guilty as hell, and all he's gotta do is kill
himself or I guess be killed before all the appeals
have been heard and never happened. Seems like a loophool
needs to be closed up right. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
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the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome in Cedric Saballo's,
of course of former NBA All Star, a slam Dunk champion,
a cow State forts and great uh and a friend
of the program. He joins us on The Doug Gotlip
Show on Fox Sports Radio, said, let's start with last night,
because that's freshest in our minds. What your impression of
it wasn't just the four games, the sweep of the
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Utah Jazz. And I know they didn't have George Hill
and gold Bear is not nearly as sharp, especially in
this season, but they are what twenty two in the
first quarter, it was utter and sheer dominant in this series.
Did you learn anything about the Golden State Warriors from
the last four games? No, not as much. They they're
they're really effective. If they're making shots, they're really hard
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to to tend with. It was more I learned a
lot about the Utah Jazz. Obviously we're gonna see a
a great superstar that has emerged and Gordon Also, Gorbert
is unbelievable even on half a tank with his leg.
He even played I'm leaving in his size. Uh, it's
just hard to deal with. I just feel bad for
the Utah Jazz because it just seems like that with
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the way the league is now, they're gonna lose both
of those players through the free agency. Uh, you know,
you you have to look at the success of the
Jazz and when they had that big run. Obviously, Sloan
being a Chicago guy coming in really tough. It was
a perfect place for him. But with Karl Malone and
John Stockton, Carl Malone being a country boy, didn't didn't
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really care for the city life. It was perfect for him.
John Stockton Stockton being the same way. That's why they
led that team for sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen years because
Utah was a place for them and they didn't mind
being there. Matt Barnes tapped on it, you know, the
nightlife and all of the extracurriculum. So when you get
the same amount of money that they're giving players now,
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they kind of make their choice on where they want
to be. And obviously we've seen Gordon's hair hair change,
his facial hair change and slicked back. You know, he
went to a more cheek you look. That may be
a change in him wanting to see more in line,
like more opportunities, and they may not find that in Utah,
but Golden State they did what they usually do. I
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thought it was great for coach Brown to get the
guys to mop the bench and get them going because
they're gonna need them, not only next round, but they're
gonna need them if they make it to the finals
against Cleveland. If Cleveland is there, I tend to agree
with you are going to need that bench. That that
could be the difference. A Doug Gottlib show rolls on
cedric Ceballos our guest after the game, Draymond said essentially
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what many people said, like, look, the Calves are great,
but the East is soft. East is closer to the
West this year, maybe than it's been in a couple
of years. But the West is still better. Do you
believe it takes away from what Lebron has been able
to do seven likely seven consecutive finals if they get
there this year because the East had been so soft. Well,
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it's that way because of the fact that I talked
about Utah before. You know, this is a league where
players are in control of where they are and where
they want to be, and most of them are choosing
a nice weather and and you know, easier travel situations.
So h the East is a tough league when you
when you're a big man. But when it comes to
being a superstar like Lebron James, the league is the
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real you know, difficult for him to to get somebody
to match up with. You know, I see Kevin Durant
to be the only player or maybe even uh Kawhi
Leonard being the only player that really you know, one
on one challenges that man. Other than that, you know,
he could do that with anybody in the league, and
the crudes through. It's just it's just the dynamics of
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him being such a star and and the team in
the East and the teams on the East Coast being
so focused on trying to stop Lebron. That's when he
eats you alive one with the way he plays downhill
and to the fact that you don't you don't pay
much attention to the other the others that he had,
the uh you know, the Kyrie Irvings, the loves, also
the Tristan Thompson. Now you emerge where Darren Williams coming
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off the bench, Janning Fry, you got you know, make
buckets are still over there on the bench that has
has points and and uh you know, you get Kyle
Corman coming and lighten you up. So there's so many
other weapons that they have surrounded. A great job by
Mr Griffin and in the front office by putting this
pieces of puzzles. I hope they keep him. Um, you know,
next year his contract is up. But the pieces of
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the puzzle that they had put together around him, it
makes it so easy from him because you can't guard
him one on one, but if you do try to double,
you leave such a dangerous so many dangerous weapons on
the floor. That's why it makes it look so easy.
And and and mostly Eastern Conference teams don't go more
than one or two, maybe even three at at at
some places with superstar dep you know, Toronto had you know,
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to two marginal superstar. One was on the bench, hurt Um.
You know. You look at Boston, they're in the hunt now.
They have one superstar and you know they had another
that when he was in Atlanta with Al, but he's
not He's not a superstar in Boston anymore. So they
have one superstar. And uh, you know Washington, they have
one potential superstar in Wall. Maybe Bill is emerging himself
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to be a superstar, but they don't have enough superstars
to contend with Lebron's team. That's why it looks so
easy for him. And you try to guard him one
on one and it's impossible. Cedric Cibolo's join is Doug
Gotliev Show, Fox Sports Radio. Um, all right, so let's
let's discuss John Wall twenty six years old and Grid.
There are times to which you go back to overtime
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in Game two. Fourth quording game too in Isaiah Thomas
outshined him. But it does seem like he's bumping. He's
he's getting closer to that ceiling right Like he's always
had the speed, he's always had the vision, but now
understanding when to push and when to slow up, how
to how to get everybody else involved, and the development
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of his his jump shot obviously a huge part of it. Um.
So the question becomes is that if the Warriors and
the Calves are likely to meet in the NBA Finals,
and I had to pick one team of the rest
of the teams in the NBA to be the next
to make the NBA Finals, would it be the Whiz
would it be the Spurs? Like who would it be?
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In your mind? Well, they'd probably be the team that
kind of limited in the first round in the Los
Angeles Clippers, but they couldn't put it together. Blake went down.
I thought Paul had a little bit more in the
tank to help that team out. Crawford didn't come up
the bench like we all know him to be accustomed
to um you know that, you know, I thought that
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would be the team that would you know, continue them
in the San Antonio Spurs. But you know, Game two,
it just shows you between Boston and Washington on how
more focused on defense Boston is than Washington, especially late
game if it comes down to a late game situation,
as you saw in Game two, Boston knew they had
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to take the ball out of John Walls there, so
it wasn't a point of John Wall and Isaiah Thomas
being more effective. Is the fact that their defense that
Boston put on him got that ball out of his hands,
made other people be a superstar that day. And now
it seems like Washington has understood that and are doing
the same thing with Isaiah Thomas. They allowed Isaiah to
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switch to pick a row and then just go to
work on on guys that are sixteen six eleven seven
foot and that's in part he's impossible to guard. He's
already dangerous, but when you put a seven footer on
him and trying to contain him and a little body, uh,
it just doesn't happen. They have been affected with that.
We'll see what happens game five, but if they continue
to do that, but that's the difference John Wall needs
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to know. You know, I have to keep this ball
in my hand. If we're down or it's a close
game late, I need to keep the ball in the
hands and I need to create and make that play.
And that becomes maturity, uh, and and also experience being
in that situation. Boston new their game plan was to
get the ball out of his hand and let somebody
else beat them. Now Washington, that switches around and and
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kind of put that same thing on our day time.
All right. The series said that we all thought would
be the best series maybe up until the finals is
uh is now four games in and none of the
games have been close, right, and it's the Rockets and
the Spurs, So help me out. We got three left.
The Rockets have had the one that they're two wins.
They've had twenty two and nineteen made threes. The Spurs
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have one of the other two games. Is it simply
come down to the Rockets make their shots, They're gonna win. Yes,
And that's been their whole season. If Rockets make their shots,
they win ball. And you can't. They have too many shooters.
They spread the floor so much. They use so many
gimmicks and tricks. I love the fact that Papoviches has
his birds when they're Guarden, James Harden. They're aware of
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this three point sling to get you to file them
and that type of thing. They're aware that they're they're
you know, slowly whispering to the referees. This is what
he's doing. You know, League is trying to change that. Uh.
And and and if you and that's just done d'antoni's system.
That's the way he was and New York it didn't
work out. In Los Angeles didn't work out. I watched
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them up close and personal in Phoenix. Um, when you
have a guy that can handle a basketball the way
Steve Nash and James Harden does, and when they change
their mentality to a pass first mentality, and and and
they're more dangerous when the ball leaves their hands to
go to somebody else that they're real effective. But on
the other hand, on the defensive end, they predicate their
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their defense off of you launching something in being like them.
I said a couple of years ago, you really can't
out warrior the Warriors. So when you try to out rockets,
the rockets like early shots, uh, you know, uh, unorthodox passes,
a shot attempts that really, you know, weren't weren't a
great shot early shot clock things. They eat you alive.
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And sometimes you get dated into that because they're not
really a trash talking team, but they they walk with
a strut, They walk with a swagger that makes you
think that they're talking trash. And it's like, this is
too easy for us, this is nothing. James Harden never
changes his expressions. Uh and and and it gets under
your skin. And I think some of the young players
feel that, Okay, I can go ahead and shoot this
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quick one. But it's also detrimental to your team because
that's falls in exactly what Dent only system wants you
to do. Get an early shot so he can do
what he does best, push the ball with the court,
get you in foul trouble, and slang those threes up. Uh.
Last thing, said CBS, joining us NBA from NBA All
Star and Slam Dunk Champion Doug Gatlin show, Fox Sports
Radio and The I Heart app as well as series
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sex M Channel three UM. Last night in that area
twenty one show, Kevin Garnett had like a Celtics reunion.
Of course, not so curiously absent was Ray Allen. And
what we heard on the show was Hey, look, we
were super close, we won a championship, and then we
turn around and it wasn't that Ray Allen left. It
was that he didn't tell anybody, talk to anybody. He
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just left. And now he's out of the group and
he's not really welcome here with reunion unless you know,
he lets bygones be bygones and he he you know,
and here breaks the ice. What are your thoughts as
a guy who was in this league. You've seen player movement.
Player movement has become a much bigger part of the
league in terms of the Celtics. The former Celtics still
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being bitter about Ray leaving, you know, over it basically, Uh,
you know, it's so funny that fans and other players
always criticized free agents or players were moving and I
contact him player, but they, you know, they say nothing
to the the ownership or the general manager, even the
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team when they trade their favorite player away. You know,
obviously I got traded away a couple of times. You know,
it wasn't no, Hey, let me talk to the superstar
on the team and let him know that we're trading
this guy away. Even when I when I got my
you know, I was on the team and they traded
my superstar away that was there. And they didn't come
to us and the ask and say, hey, well, this
is what we're gonna do. They just did it and
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and and Ray Allen, and it worked out for Ray Allen.
You know, it was perfect scenario for him. You know,
he was with a team that um obviously the best
player on the planet at the time, Lebron James. You
put a shooter in the corner, and I mean he
and it's not only he was. He was on the team.
Just sitting on the bench, he was a big part.
I mean a huge part. And then winning the championship
and going to the finals those years. So you know,
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guys want to, you know, say hey man, it's on Raid.
It's that another right, you know. You know, if you
look at that team, I think Kendrick got traded away,
you know, to Oklahoma or a big baby got traded
away or something else. And then Paul and Kevin Garnett
they got traded away to Brooklyn. You know, did they
call everybody and say, hey man, uh, we're gonna trade
these guys away. Now They can't they can't hold rate
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accountable for that. You know, at the end of the day,
you know, Kevin Gardnett and the rest of those guys
made a decision to come together to win the championship.
They did that. After they did that, uh, you know,
you can't blame a guy for one to go try
to get other rings, because you know that that wasn't
the accomplishments. But Ray wanted more than one championship without
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got He went out and he went out and did it.
Was a big part of those two championships. In the
three Final four three finals run said great stuff, Thanks
so much for joining us. Look look forward to catching
up real soon. Okay, guys, be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific. Matt Harvey Um could not
have checked more boxes for the Mets A couple of
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years ago and in one of the most ridiculous at
things ever. Remember when he started the All Star Game
in two thousand thirteen, it was his first full year
as a picture. He ended up with a spectacular two
point two seven e r a UM. He only won
nine games that year, but he appeared in twenty six games.
He had one strikeouts, which is spectacular and only thirty
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one walks. That's a great ratio. And when you have
more strikeouts than you have innings pitch seventy eight, you're
a swing and miss picture. His nickname was the Dark Night.
He was affable, he was funny, he wasn't scared of
the camera. He liked New York. He liked all the
different things about New York. And he seemed to fit
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in with the Mets. And the Mets are alway they
are though way more successful. They are always they're way
more successful than pretty much any other second team in
any other city, in any other sport, there's still the
second team in that city. Because the Yankees have won
twenties seven titles. You're like the perfect met Like this
guy is great, But there's a thing about New York.
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Do you throw a bunch of money and a young dude,
especially one that likes going out, being out with the boys,
likes to throw down, and you can get down a vortex.
He's gained some weight after one more good year last
year and they went to the World Series, remember, and
then of course, uh he blew an opportunity starting in
Game seven of the World Series, didn't pitch well, and
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he wanted to go back out there, and he didn't
have gas in the tank. And then last year he
had a z R a blew up four point eight seven,
couldn't locate, had thoracic outlet syndrome, came back. This year
hasn't been much better, and then he got suspended over
the weekend. Turns out Saturday night he was partying in
Manhattan a per page six, Page six, that's the New
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York Post. The story goes something like this on Sunday,
he was supposed to show up at the park Monday,
he was supposed to start on Sunday. He called his
pitching coach and like, yeah, I'm not gonna make it in.
I'm not feeling well. Here's the moment you knew that
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Matt Harvey was done for the Mets. Ready for it.
The Mets sent security over to check on it. Matt
Harvey is a grown man. He's twenty eight years old.
He is not a child. He is a former All Star.
He is the former ace of of a pitching staff
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that went to the World So he went to Game
seven of the World Series and they went to check
on him. Relationships are over. The moment, you either one
stopped talking or to stop trusting each other. Aren't they
like when you call your boss and say I can't
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make it in I'm sick, and his responses go check
on him, and you're not sending a doctor. It wasn't
like they sent the team doctor. Hey man, what can
we do? Need some pills? You go to see somebody
like is the flu is or whatever? They sent team security.
They sent the goons in just to double check it. Now, look,
he was in fact home. He was sick, you know,
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because when you drink, as page six reported, um he
drank ASA's Spades Don Julio two personal favorite by the way,
sipping tequila and Belvedere when you drink Ace don Julio
two and belve in the same night, and I'm guessing
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he didn't have one of each. And at four o'clock
the next day you call your boss and go, uh, sick.
We know that sick means hung over. The team found
it necessary to check do a wellness check on him.
At ten pm. He answered the jeor the door in
his pajamas. Which do you guys sleep in pajamas? I
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don't sleep in pajamas like pajamas. I don't do the
nude thing and oh either, Um, I usually I just
do like hoop shorts and a T and a T shirt, right, Like,
isn't that what most or maybe boxers in a T shirt? Right?
Like Jamie's feels really formal. Although like when you're back
east and it's cold winter, you put on some socks
and some Jamie's and like Henley, like you feel kind
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of like you're in the mountains, you know. Yeah, like
Coppa Henley. You know the three button to long sleeve
with like three buttons down the middle. That's a Henley Henley.
All right. Um, I wasn't disagreeing with you. I just
had no idea what that was. And just I'm just
informing you. And look, I'm not like I'm some not
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not sort of master of hab a Dasherie. But I
do know that because I've ordered from the J J.
Crue catalog before. And you have to delineate the differences
in style, right, you gotta know what a Henley is.
Henley's not a hoodie, although there are Henley's with hoods
and it's really confusing to try and order one of those.
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Matt Harvey faced the media today. Here was his apology.
I apologized for for my actions, and I do apologize
for my actions. Obviously, I'm extremely embarrassed by my actions. Um.
I apologize to my teammates, to the Mets organization, to
the Wilpons, to you know, all the way down to
the Mets fans for doing what I did. Here was
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his explanation of what happened. Yes, I was out on
Friday night past curfew. I did play golf Saturday morning,
and I put myself in a bad place to be
ready for showing up for a ball for a ballgame.
That is my responsibility. Can I can I tell you
what's likely to have happened if you went out late
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Friday night at the four o'clock and then you played
golf in the morning, right, and then you call in
the afternoon like, dude, I'm sick. So the guess is
instead of being hungover and taking a couple of you know,
taking four advil and washing it down with some water
and drying out during the day, Uh, he did, with
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any good alcoholic does, right, he had to help me
crack to co one. Never too early to drink away,
drink off a hangover. And while that sounds like a
good idea, and your buddy's like, hey, man, here you
go have a bloody Mary drink. That sucker off, right,
car girl comes around, You're just like, hey, buddy, keep
him coming. It's gonna be a long It's gonna be
a long walk. The fact is, it is, in fact
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a bad idea when you're a professional athlete. Fox Sports
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Catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio dot
com and within the I Heart Radio app. Draymond went
even one step further on his podcast Dre Day when
he had this to say about Celtics center Kelly olynnok,
Kelly O is a dirty player man, holder Nick called
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him in the Facebook and like the neck with a
couple of elbows. And that's what I don't understand, you
know what I'm saying, Like you let people get away
with stuff and then finally with somebody react, you penalized
that guy, Like, but you're not gonna put a lass
home for continue to elbow this guy in the face.
I don't get that he's dirty, dirty player. Man. I
don't respect guys like that. And I mean, I know
he's not like the greatest basketball player of all time,
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So maybe you feel like you gotta like do that,
but you don't like just dirty, like I don't respect
that man. He dirty? All right? I see if you
can hear this, this is Isaiah Thomas, the point guard
and lean score man. We're not gonna use that sound
because it's too it's too too many balls bouncing. Yeah,
it's too bad. Here's what said quote. It's a joke.
The Green said that the playoffs, every everything somebody says
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gets blown out of proportion. Everything somebody does gets blown
up proportion. We can't worry about whether others are saying,
are doing. He didn't say pot called cattle, right. This
is Draymond Green, same guy that kicked like three guys
in the nuts last year in the playoffs. They tried
to ring the chimes of of Lebron James and Frankly,
Draymond suspension is as much a reason for the Calves
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being pulled off life support as Andrew Boget's injury, as
was Lebron James's block and Kyrie Irving's jump shot to
win Game seven. Like Draymond plays in Game four, there
might not in game five, there meant might not be
a Game six where Andrew Boga got hurt. And whether
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or not you consider Draymond Green dirty, I don't. I
think he flails and flops and is a showman. But
there are times in which he makes plays that could
be perceived as dirty and people in the league perceiving
as dirty. The worst part about it is he ain't
a good player, right, He's not that good a player.
So this is basically this is the only way to
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stay in the league. Look, you might think Kelly OLYNK
and maybe Kelly LYNNOK has the reputation of being dirty.
That was not a dirty screen. He didn't move, he
did and stick out a hipp he and stick out
a knee. He planted his feet, and he had his
arms tucked into his chest. It just so happens that
he's gigantic. And when you're gigantic and you set a
screen on a guy who's like like normally Kelly who
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braids was six six seven venus in a defensive stance,
he's probably I don't know, five ft five, maybe six ft.
So if you're six ft and you come running into
a dude that's seven ft tall and he's got his
arms tucked into his chest, guess what you're going to
hit his elbows. He went down, Ubrey went crazy, Ubrey
went after him. Olenic didn't really fight back. He was
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just like, yo, what was it? Kelly on Kelly crime? I? Oh, yeah,
by the way, I believe the Boston Celtics where Kelly Green?
Did you know that Kelly on Kelly? And Kelly was
wearing Kelly? But how about Draymond calling somebody else dirty? Right?
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Jamond as Draymond being Draymond. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at three
pm Eastern noon Pacific. Paul Pierce said this about Ray
Allen leaving the group in two thousand twelve to join
the Miami Heat. I was initially hurt by the whole
way everything went down. I thought we formed a brotherhood
here in Boston, you know, just how we carried ourselves,
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not only on the corp, off the court, and I
just figured like, if it was me leaving or kg leaving,
that would have been like, you know, where Rondo perky?
You know what? This is what I've been thinking about.
That was That's what all was heard by when Ray
didn't just at least give us a heads up about it,
He didn't give you a heads up about it. You
know why, because you're not that good of friends, right,
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You're not that good of friends. If you're surprised by
something you reading the news about a friend, Hey, news flash,
not that good of friends. We're not that close. And
that's okay. You don't have to be best friends with
everybody you work with, with everybody you play with. You
just don't um And by the way, like this is
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not like they won a championship in the eight and
then the that very off season he left a couple
of years later and they were starting the parts were
starting to be traded away. The run was clearly over.
The only people that didn't know the run was over
was the Brooklyn Nets, who traded for Pierce and Garnett
and Jason Terry and gave back three first round picks
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and this year's ability to trade to swap first round picks,
like it's the worst trade in the history or best
in the history of basketball. Like the Nets were the
only team that didn't know what was going on. But
everybody else is like, they're kind of done. Oh, but
it was a brotherhood. We were tired. It's about more
than basketball, Like I was like not really. Then you
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had Kendrick Perkins, who, of course part of that championship
team was traded away to Oklahoma City. He offered this
up in regards to Westbrook and Durant and that relationship.
The night that Russ actually broke the record, I had
tex Katie. He saw me at six and was like,
height man man. Russ had a nice conversation. But the
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media don't even know nothing about it. But I just
let it be known that you know, they're back on
talking terms, you know what I mean. So, and I
wouldn't be surprised if Katie make a little run. I
wouldn't be surprised if he goes back to Oklahoma because,
in my opinion, I don't think Ru's going with all right,
so he doesn't think Gress is going nowhere. He thinks
Kendrick Perkin, by the way, is the worst secret keeper
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in the history of secret keepers. Do you remember last
year around this time when he was Kendrick Perkins was
uh he was. He said like, yeah, me and I
had to sign some papers to not tell anybody what
team what we were talking about, but we talked about
some teams. Remember that, Like wait, wait, you had to
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sign a non disclosure agreement and then to disclose the
fact that you were talking about other teams, leading anybody
with the brain to think that Heay Katie is actually
thinking about leaving. No, I didn't. I didn't say any
team's names. Like, yeah, but you said you were talking
about teams. That's kind of enough. Now we can draw
the conclusion as to which teams are a legit it possibility.
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And then he said, like, I don't want to put
this out in the media. Dude, you're on television. You've
become the media hot Mike. But like, bygones are bygones,
and a good phone conversation or a good text, especially
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at just the right moment. I think most things, most
relationships are in some lay level reparable, right do you reparable? Reparable? Reparable?
I like reparable. It sounds more intelligent, you know, but
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we don't tell Kendrick Perkins a secret. Russ and Durant
are back on speaking terms. I don't think Russell Westbrook's
leaving because he likes being king there. But I also
think that that says of now that's after one year
without Durant, frustration could build that the moves aren't made
to have him a better team and next year he
could still go back to l A. And I'm not
buying that KD. Let's say again, let's see what happens.
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K D wins a championship or two, Like, why would
he leave Golden State? And if he did, why would
he go back to Oklahoma City? And there was some
sort of brotherhood that Ray Allen wasn't actually didn't know
that he was in. Oh, his brotherhood, I didn't know that.
I just thought this was a job, and we won
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a championship and I went on to another job.
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We'll find out about the New York mess with with
(01:28):
Harvey uh and uh boy, what a what a disaster
that is with the New York Mets. When you're your star,
I guess former Ace has to be checked up on
when they call him sick for work, we said. Saballos,
the former dunk champion NBA All Stars, gonna join us
in about ten minutes. We'll talk to him about the
NBA Playoffs, which I want to get to. In a second,
(01:49):
Kevin Dan will join us. We'll discuss the l A Clippers.
What happens there strong rumors that there could be a
potential move of one of the Big Three from the clips.
US take you to Golden State where the Warriors sweep
away the Utah Jazz. Let's start with the Warriors in
the Jazz because there's a growing I don't know if
(02:12):
it's a pushback against Lebron James and likely seventh consecutive
appearance in the NBA finals. But there's a contextualization is that?
Is that an actual word or did I just make
it up? I think it's an actual word. The contextualization
of the Lebron argument, which is, hey, look, seven years
in a row in the finals is awesome and the
(02:33):
fact that he hasn't been hurt is amazing. Well, let's
also be completely candid. The East has been down for
all of those seven years, and who he's beaten to
get there takes at least a little bit away from
the fact that he's always gotten there. And if you
don't think that's the case, if you don't think that
(02:55):
argument is being made by more than just sports yakkers
like myself. Takeular us into Draymond Green after they dismantled
the Utah Jazz. What he said about the Cleveland Cavaliers
and how they've been playing. Then, Cleveland's been playing great basketball,
you know, you washed down, it's been amazing, and then
(03:15):
you watched other teams that they're playing against not so
much so. I like, that's just my opinion though, But whatever,
who cares First of all, when you when you when
you say something you can't like, you don't have to
back your way out of it. Right, here's a hot take,
(03:36):
and let me well, that's just my opinion. Who cares
on in either your opinion matters because you're sharing with us,
or doesn't matter, and keep it to yourself. Now, there
is a certain irony to it, right. That's the Golden
State Warriors, who two years ago went through an NBA
plass where never was the point guard of the other
team healthy. Drew Holiday wasn't healthy first two games he
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took down the Pelicans. Um as they went on the playoffs,
every team Mike Conley wasn't healthy for part of that series.
They took down the Grizzlies. I'm trying to think who
else was hurt on their run two. They didn't obviously
have to play the Thunder that year because that was
the year the Thunder missed out in the playoffs to
the Pelicans, and then in the NBA Finals, Kyrie Irvan
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was hurt, Kevin Love was hurt. There's one other series
I'm I'm missing in terms of who they took down.
They didn't face the Spurs and didn't face the Clippers,
they were on the other side of the bracket. And
so this is the same Warriors team that had an
easy run and had an easier time of the Cavaliers.
Is what are he's saying inaccurate? It's not, it's not.
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It should also be pointed out that the Warriors, even
this year, even this year, probably won't have to play
the Spurs, didn't have to play the Clippers, and though
they've dominated the Clippers, like, let's be honest, the Clippers
at full strength or the Jazz at and the Jazz
weren't healthy. Golbert wasn't healthy coming back, and they didn't
have George Hildy's past couple of games are starting point
(05:11):
guard last three games. So like, look, he's not wrong
if he's like the Warriors, you're playing the Calves are
playing great, But we know the West is better than
the East, maybe not as much as it's been better
in the past. There's also the irony two or the
the pot calling the kettle. If you will right the pot,
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you guys have an easy road. And wait a second, dude,
you guys had an easier road because George Hill's hurt
and he didn't play the Clippers. You guys had an
easy road when you won the won the championship two
years ago. What are you talking about? So um? I
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look at it, and I think it's okay to give
contexts as long as you're being fair. It's also okay
to point out that Lebron James overachieved when he got
to the finals the first time in Cleveland. He was
in the finals four consecutive years in Miami. The first
year was not nearly as good a roster didn't have
ray Allen Um and he was so good in those finals,
(06:17):
even the ones he lost. The two of them. There
was a lot of talk and he probably should have
been the finals m v P and his team lost
in the NBA finals. So is Lebron facing weak competition,
I guess and in the past. Sure, But the West
is not nearly as dominant as it's been over the
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East in the past. A good reason for the East
being down is that all the good players are playing
with Lebron. Much like in the West. So many of
the good players have gathered up on the Golden State Warriors,
and it's just cheeky. It's just interesting that here the
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Warriors are beneficiaries of of injuries to make playoff runs,
making their playoff runs easier, dismantling the Utah Jazz, who
are good but didn't have their point guard Rudy Gobert
was still kind of banged up to start the series,
and they were dominant. Oh but they you could say
the exact same thing that Draymond said about the Calves.
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They've been great, but I've been unimpressed by their competition,
and say that about the Utah Jazz. And could you
make the case that they were both injured with Andrew
Bogutt and suspended for a game with Draymond Green when
they lost to the Calves last year after being up
three games to one. You absolutely could. But you still
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had a three games to one lead, you still had
two games at home, and you had Game seven at
home and you lost to me. My takeaway is, I'm
okay with Draymond poking the bear. I'm that's who one,
that's who Draymond is. I'm okay with these teams not
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liking each other, because there has to be some reason
to keep me intrigued from an utter league and completely unintriguing,
not very interesting NBA playoffs to start right like this,
is not. And the reason for intrigue is with two
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best teams that have loaded up with players that have
faced each other the last two years that have had
that injuries have caused as much of the championship as
the talent. And of course we had a great game
seven last year. Are likely meet up for six or
seven games, and they don't like each other and they're
tweaking each other about each other's history. Right, I think
that's good. We got phone calls to take. Possibly you
(08:51):
got said Sambolos to join us. Man, We got a
lot of stuff to get too. Do you see this story?
I aired Dan Buyer reporting the story at the top
of the hour where the judge has vacated the Aaron
Hernandez verdict. It's a and like, look, this is a
there's lots of stuff about court that you don't know about.
(09:12):
Like did anybody else who's not a lawyer know this
could have happened that a guy who was convicted beyond
a reasonable doubt in a court of law for the
murder of Odin Lloyd could have that conviction thrown out
simply because his appeals hadn't been heard. I would have
thought it's the other way around, hadn't heard the appeals,
so the conviction stands, right, doesn't that kind that logical?
(09:35):
Like what's the purpose of a trial if when the
guy dies all of a sudden like, ah, you know what,
that never happened. Um now, end of the day doesn't
really matter. I don't think his daughter that many people
think we'll see a financial windfall. I don't think that
will come to be, even if they declare bankruptcy, because
they're gonna, you know, maybe they'll be able to hide
(09:57):
some money more for his former fiance, saying for his daughter.
But Odin Lloyd's family is going to sue them in
civil court, and he's any anything that they can get,
they'll they will get. But what a strange loophole that
I didn't know existed? Like I, I guess I learned
something today. But I also learned that you can murder
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somebody who you used to consider a friend in cold blood,
leave them in an industrial park, have your d n
A all over the place, have cell phones track and
you have a video of you celebrating the fact that
you just shot a friend. Have your fiance, the mother
of your daughter, likely take the weapon that you used
to kill your friend out of your residence, I mean,
(10:43):
get caught even even um enclosing arguments, His defense lawyer
at the time said, well, maybe he was at the scene,
but he maybe he didn't pull the trigger. Right, he
used the fall guy argument at the very last second.
They had him hook line and sing kerk. He was
guilty beyond a reasonable that it didn't take time at all. Like, hey, guys,
(11:05):
guilty as hell, and all he's gotta do is kill
himself or I guess be killed before all the appeals
have been heard and never happened. Seems like a loophool
needs to be closed up right. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
(11:27):
the I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome in Cedric Saballo's,
of course of former NBA All Star, a slam Dunk champion,
a cow State forts and great uh and a friend
of the program. He joins us on The Doug Gotlip
Show on Fox Sports Radio, said, let's start with last night,
because that's freshest in our minds. What your impression of
it wasn't just the four games, the sweep of the
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Utah Jazz. And I know they didn't have George Hill
and gold Bear is not nearly as sharp, especially in
this season, but they are what twenty two in the
first quarter, it was utter and sheer dominant in this series.
Did you learn anything about the Golden State Warriors from
the last four games? No, not as much. They they're
they're really effective. If they're making shots, they're really hard
(12:11):
to to tend with. It was more I learned a
lot about the Utah Jazz. Obviously we're gonna see a
a great superstar that has emerged and Gordon Also, Gorbert
is unbelievable even on half a tank with his leg.
He even played I'm leaving in his size. Uh, it's
just hard to deal with. I just feel bad for
the Utah Jazz because it just seems like that with
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the way the league is now, they're gonna lose both
of those players through the free agency. Uh, you know,
you you have to look at the success of the
Jazz and when they had that big run. Obviously, Sloan
being a Chicago guy coming in really tough. It was
a perfect place for him. But with Karl Malone and
John Stockton, Carl Malone being a country boy, didn't didn't
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really care for the city life. It was perfect for him.
John Stockton Stockton being the same way. That's why they
led that team for sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen years because
Utah was a place for them and they didn't mind
being there. Matt Barnes tapped on it, you know, the
nightlife and all of the extracurriculum. So when you get
the same amount of money that they're giving players now,
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they kind of make their choice on where they want
to be. And obviously we've seen Gordon's hair hair change,
his facial hair change and slicked back. You know, he
went to a more cheek you look. That may be
a change in him wanting to see more in line,
like more opportunities, and they may not find that in Utah,
but Golden State they did what they usually do. I
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thought it was great for coach Brown to get the
guys to mop the bench and get them going because
they're gonna need them, not only next round, but they're
gonna need them if they make it to the finals
against Cleveland. If Cleveland is there, I tend to agree
with you are going to need that bench. That that
could be the difference. A Doug Gottlib show rolls on
cedric Ceballos our guest after the game, Draymond said essentially
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what many people said, like, look, the Calves are great,
but the East is soft. East is closer to the
West this year, maybe than it's been in a couple
of years. But the West is still better. Do you
believe it takes away from what Lebron has been able
to do seven likely seven consecutive finals if they get
there this year because the East had been so soft. Well,
(14:22):
it's that way because of the fact that I talked
about Utah before. You know, this is a league where
players are in control of where they are and where
they want to be, and most of them are choosing
a nice weather and and you know, easier travel situations.
So h the East is a tough league when you
when you're a big man. But when it comes to
being a superstar like Lebron James, the league is the
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real you know, difficult for him to to get somebody
to match up with. You know, I see Kevin Durant
to be the only player or maybe even uh Kawhi
Leonard being the only player that really you know, one
on one challenges that man. Other than that, you know,
he could do that with anybody in the league, and
the crudes through. It's just it's just the dynamics of
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him being such a star and and the team in
the East and the teams on the East Coast being
so focused on trying to stop Lebron. That's when he
eats you alive one with the way he plays downhill
and to the fact that you don't you don't pay
much attention to the other the others that he had,
the uh you know, the Kyrie Irvings, the loves, also
the Tristan Thompson. Now you emerge where Darren Williams coming
(15:31):
off the bench, Janning Fry, you got you know, make
buckets are still over there on the bench that has
has points and and uh you know, you get Kyle
Corman coming and lighten you up. So there's so many
other weapons that they have surrounded. A great job by
Mr Griffin and in the front office by putting this
pieces of puzzles. I hope they keep him. Um, you know,
next year his contract is up. But the pieces of
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the puzzle that they had put together around him, it
makes it so easy from him because you can't guard
him one on one, but if you do try to double,
you leave such a dangerous so many dangerous weapons on
the floor. That's why it makes it look so easy.
And and and mostly Eastern Conference teams don't go more
than one or two, maybe even three at at at
some places with superstar dep you know, Toronto had you know,
(16:15):
to two marginal superstar. One was on the bench, hurt Um.
You know. You look at Boston, they're in the hunt now.
They have one superstar and you know they had another
that when he was in Atlanta with Al, but he's
not He's not a superstar in Boston anymore. So they
have one superstar. And uh, you know Washington, they have
one potential superstar in Wall. Maybe Bill is emerging himself
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to be a superstar, but they don't have enough superstars
to contend with Lebron's team. That's why it looks so
easy for him. And you try to guard him one
on one and it's impossible. Cedric Cibolo's join is Doug
Gotliev Show, Fox Sports Radio. Um, all right, so let's
let's discuss John Wall twenty six years old and Grid.
There are times to which you go back to overtime
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in Game two. Fourth quording game too in Isaiah Thomas
outshined him. But it does seem like he's bumping. He's
he's getting closer to that ceiling right Like he's always
had the speed, he's always had the vision, but now
understanding when to push and when to slow up, how
to how to get everybody else involved, and the development
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of his his jump shot obviously a huge part of it. Um.
So the question becomes is that if the Warriors and
the Calves are likely to meet in the NBA Finals,
and I had to pick one team of the rest
of the teams in the NBA to be the next
to make the NBA Finals, would it be the Whiz
would it be the Spurs? Like who would it be?
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In your mind? Well, they'd probably be the team that
kind of limited in the first round in the Los
Angeles Clippers, but they couldn't put it together. Blake went down.
I thought Paul had a little bit more in the
tank to help that team out. Crawford didn't come up
the bench like we all know him to be accustomed
to um you know that, you know, I thought that
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would be the team that would you know, continue them
in the San Antonio Spurs. But you know, Game two,
it just shows you between Boston and Washington on how
more focused on defense Boston is than Washington, especially late
game if it comes down to a late game situation,
as you saw in Game two, Boston knew they had
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to take the ball out of John Walls there, so
it wasn't a point of John Wall and Isaiah Thomas
being more effective. Is the fact that their defense that
Boston put on him got that ball out of his hands,
made other people be a superstar that day. And now
it seems like Washington has understood that and are doing
the same thing with Isaiah Thomas. They allowed Isaiah to
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switch to pick a row and then just go to
work on on guys that are sixteen six eleven seven
foot and that's in part he's impossible to guard. He's
already dangerous, but when you put a seven footer on
him and trying to contain him and a little body, uh,
it just doesn't happen. They have been affected with that.
We'll see what happens game five, but if they continue
to do that, but that's the difference John Wall needs
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to know. You know, I have to keep this ball
in my hand. If we're down or it's a close
game late, I need to keep the ball in the
hands and I need to create and make that play.
And that becomes maturity, uh, and and also experience being
in that situation. Boston new their game plan was to
get the ball out of his hand and let somebody
else beat them. Now Washington, that switches around and and
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kind of put that same thing on our day time.
All right. The series said that we all thought would
be the best series maybe up until the finals is
uh is now four games in and none of the
games have been close, right, and it's the Rockets and
the Spurs, So help me out. We got three left.
The Rockets have had the one that they're two wins.
They've had twenty two and nineteen made threes. The Spurs
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have one of the other two games. Is it simply
come down to the Rockets make their shots, They're gonna win. Yes,
And that's been their whole season. If Rockets make their shots,
they win ball. And you can't. They have too many shooters.
They spread the floor so much. They use so many
gimmicks and tricks. I love the fact that Papoviches has
his birds when they're Guarden, James Harden. They're aware of
(20:14):
this three point sling to get you to file them
and that type of thing. They're aware that they're they're
you know, slowly whispering to the referees. This is what
he's doing. You know, League is trying to change that. Uh.
And and and if you and that's just done d'antoni's system.
That's the way he was and New York it didn't
work out. In Los Angeles didn't work out. I watched
(20:35):
them up close and personal in Phoenix. Um, when you
have a guy that can handle a basketball the way
Steve Nash and James Harden does, and when they change
their mentality to a pass first mentality, and and and
they're more dangerous when the ball leaves their hands to
go to somebody else that they're real effective. But on
the other hand, on the defensive end, they predicate their
(20:57):
their defense off of you launching something in being like them.
I said a couple of years ago, you really can't
out warrior the Warriors. So when you try to out rockets,
the rockets like early shots, uh, you know, uh, unorthodox passes,
a shot attempts that really, you know, weren't weren't a
great shot early shot clock things. They eat you alive.
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And sometimes you get dated into that because they're not
really a trash talking team, but they they walk with
a strut, They walk with a swagger that makes you
think that they're talking trash. And it's like, this is
too easy for us, this is nothing. James Harden never
changes his expressions. Uh and and and it gets under
your skin. And I think some of the young players
feel that, Okay, I can go ahead and shoot this
(21:40):
quick one. But it's also detrimental to your team because
that's falls in exactly what Dent only system wants you
to do. Get an early shot so he can do
what he does best, push the ball with the court,
get you in foul trouble, and slang those threes up. Uh.
Last thing, said CBS, joining us NBA from NBA All
Star and Slam Dunk Champion Doug Gatlin show, Fox Sports
Radio and The I Heart app as well as series
(22:01):
sex M Channel three UM. Last night in that area
twenty one show, Kevin Garnett had like a Celtics reunion.
Of course, not so curiously absent was Ray Allen. And
what we heard on the show was Hey, look, we
were super close, we won a championship, and then we
turn around and it wasn't that Ray Allen left. It
was that he didn't tell anybody, talk to anybody. He
(22:23):
just left. And now he's out of the group and
he's not really welcome here with reunion unless you know,
he lets bygones be bygones and he he you know,
and here breaks the ice. What are your thoughts as
a guy who was in this league. You've seen player movement.
Player movement has become a much bigger part of the
league in terms of the Celtics. The former Celtics still
(22:45):
being bitter about Ray leaving, you know, over it basically, Uh,
you know, it's so funny that fans and other players
always criticized free agents or players were moving and I
contact him player, but they, you know, they say nothing
to the the ownership or the general manager, even the
(23:07):
team when they trade their favorite player away. You know,
obviously I got traded away a couple of times. You know,
it wasn't no, Hey, let me talk to the superstar
on the team and let him know that we're trading
this guy away. Even when I when I got my
you know, I was on the team and they traded
my superstar away that was there. And they didn't come
to us and the ask and say, hey, well, this
is what we're gonna do. They just did it and
(23:27):
and and Ray Allen, and it worked out for Ray Allen.
You know, it was perfect scenario for him. You know,
he was with a team that um obviously the best
player on the planet at the time, Lebron James. You
put a shooter in the corner, and I mean he
and it's not only he was. He was on the team.
Just sitting on the bench, he was a big part.
I mean a huge part. And then winning the championship
and going to the finals those years. So you know,
(23:50):
guys want to, you know, say hey man, it's on Raid.
It's that another right, you know. You know, if you
look at that team, I think Kendrick got traded away,
you know, to Oklahoma or a big baby got traded
away or something else. And then Paul and Kevin Garnett
they got traded away to Brooklyn. You know, did they
call everybody and say, hey man, uh, we're gonna trade
these guys away. Now They can't they can't hold rate
(24:12):
accountable for that. You know, at the end of the day,
you know, Kevin Gardnett and the rest of those guys
made a decision to come together to win the championship.
They did that. After they did that, uh, you know,
you can't blame a guy for one to go try
to get other rings, because you know that that wasn't
the accomplishments. But Ray wanted more than one championship without
(24:34):
got He went out and he went out and did it.
Was a big part of those two championships. In the
three Final four three finals run said great stuff, Thanks
so much for joining us. Look look forward to catching
up real soon. Okay, guys, be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific. Matt Harvey Um could not
have checked more boxes for the Mets A couple of
(24:57):
years ago and in one of the most ridiculous at
things ever. Remember when he started the All Star Game
in two thousand thirteen, it was his first full year
as a picture. He ended up with a spectacular two
point two seven e r a UM. He only won
nine games that year, but he appeared in twenty six games.
He had one strikeouts, which is spectacular and only thirty
(25:19):
one walks. That's a great ratio. And when you have
more strikeouts than you have innings pitch seventy eight, you're
a swing and miss picture. His nickname was the Dark Night.
He was affable, he was funny, he wasn't scared of
the camera. He liked New York. He liked all the
different things about New York. And he seemed to fit
(25:41):
in with the Mets. And the Mets are alway they
are though way more successful. They are always they're way
more successful than pretty much any other second team in
any other city, in any other sport, there's still the
second team in that city. Because the Yankees have won
twenties seven titles. You're like the perfect met Like this
guy is great, But there's a thing about New York.
(26:02):
Do you throw a bunch of money and a young dude,
especially one that likes going out, being out with the boys,
likes to throw down, and you can get down a vortex.
He's gained some weight after one more good year last
year and they went to the World Series, remember, and
then of course, uh he blew an opportunity starting in
Game seven of the World Series, didn't pitch well, and
(26:26):
he wanted to go back out there, and he didn't
have gas in the tank. And then last year he
had a z R a blew up four point eight seven,
couldn't locate, had thoracic outlet syndrome, came back. This year
hasn't been much better, and then he got suspended over
the weekend. Turns out Saturday night he was partying in
Manhattan a per page six, Page six, that's the New
(26:47):
York Post. The story goes something like this on Sunday,
he was supposed to show up at the park Monday,
he was supposed to start on Sunday. He called his
pitching coach and like, yeah, I'm not gonna make it in.
I'm not feeling well. Here's the moment you knew that
(27:08):
Matt Harvey was done for the Mets. Ready for it.
The Mets sent security over to check on it. Matt
Harvey is a grown man. He's twenty eight years old.
He is not a child. He is a former All Star.
He is the former ace of of a pitching staff
(27:28):
that went to the World So he went to Game
seven of the World Series and they went to check
on him. Relationships are over. The moment, you either one
stopped talking or to stop trusting each other. Aren't they
like when you call your boss and say I can't
(27:49):
make it in I'm sick, and his responses go check
on him, and you're not sending a doctor. It wasn't
like they sent the team doctor. Hey man, what can
we do? Need some pills? You go to see somebody
like is the flu is or whatever? They sent team security.
They sent the goons in just to double check it. Now, look,
he was in fact home. He was sick, you know,
(28:12):
because when you drink, as page six reported, um he
drank ASA's Spades Don Julio two personal favorite by the way,
sipping tequila and Belvedere when you drink Ace don Julio
two and belve in the same night, and I'm guessing
(28:33):
he didn't have one of each. And at four o'clock
the next day you call your boss and go, uh, sick.
We know that sick means hung over. The team found
it necessary to check do a wellness check on him.
At ten pm. He answered the jeor the door in
his pajamas. Which do you guys sleep in pajamas? I
(28:57):
don't sleep in pajamas like pajamas. I don't do the
nude thing and oh either, Um, I usually I just
do like hoop shorts and a T and a T shirt, right, Like,
isn't that what most or maybe boxers in a T shirt? Right?
Like Jamie's feels really formal. Although like when you're back
east and it's cold winter, you put on some socks
and some Jamie's and like Henley, like you feel kind
(29:19):
of like you're in the mountains, you know. Yeah, like
Coppa Henley. You know the three button to long sleeve
with like three buttons down the middle. That's a Henley Henley.
All right. Um, I wasn't disagreeing with you. I just
had no idea what that was. And just I'm just
informing you. And look, I'm not like I'm some not
(29:40):
not sort of master of hab a Dasherie. But I
do know that because I've ordered from the J J.
Crue catalog before. And you have to delineate the differences
in style, right, you gotta know what a Henley is.
Henley's not a hoodie, although there are Henley's with hoods
and it's really confusing to try and order one of those.
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Matt Harvey faced the media today. Here was his apology.
I apologized for for my actions, and I do apologize
for my actions. Obviously, I'm extremely embarrassed by my actions. Um.
I apologize to my teammates, to the Mets organization, to
the Wilpons, to you know, all the way down to
the Mets fans for doing what I did. Here was
(30:24):
his explanation of what happened. Yes, I was out on
Friday night past curfew. I did play golf Saturday morning,
and I put myself in a bad place to be
ready for showing up for a ball for a ballgame.
That is my responsibility. Can I can I tell you
what's likely to have happened if you went out late
(30:45):
Friday night at the four o'clock and then you played
golf in the morning, right, and then you call in
the afternoon like, dude, I'm sick. So the guess is
instead of being hungover and taking a couple of you know,
taking four advil and washing it down with some water
and drying out during the day, Uh, he did, with
(31:06):
any good alcoholic does, right, he had to help me
crack to co one. Never too early to drink away,
drink off a hangover. And while that sounds like a
good idea, and your buddy's like, hey, man, here you
go have a bloody Mary drink. That sucker off, right,
car girl comes around, You're just like, hey, buddy, keep
him coming. It's gonna be a long It's gonna be
a long walk. The fact is, it is, in fact
(31:29):
a bad idea when you're a professional athlete. Fox Sports
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Catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio dot
com and within the I Heart Radio app. Draymond went
even one step further on his podcast Dre Day when
he had this to say about Celtics center Kelly olynnok,
Kelly O is a dirty player man, holder Nick called
(31:49):
him in the Facebook and like the neck with a
couple of elbows. And that's what I don't understand, you
know what I'm saying, Like you let people get away
with stuff and then finally with somebody react, you penalized
that guy, Like, but you're not gonna put a lass
home for continue to elbow this guy in the face.
I don't get that he's dirty, dirty player. Man. I
don't respect guys like that. And I mean, I know
he's not like the greatest basketball player of all time,
(32:12):
So maybe you feel like you gotta like do that,
but you don't like just dirty, like I don't respect
that man. He dirty? All right? I see if you
can hear this, this is Isaiah Thomas, the point guard
and lean score man. We're not gonna use that sound
because it's too it's too too many balls bouncing. Yeah,
it's too bad. Here's what said quote. It's a joke.
The Green said that the playoffs, every everything somebody says
(32:32):
gets blown out of proportion. Everything somebody does gets blown
up proportion. We can't worry about whether others are saying,
are doing. He didn't say pot called cattle, right. This
is Draymond Green, same guy that kicked like three guys
in the nuts last year in the playoffs. They tried
to ring the chimes of of Lebron James and Frankly,
Draymond suspension is as much a reason for the Calves
(32:54):
being pulled off life support as Andrew Boget's injury, as
was Lebron James's block and Kyrie Irving's jump shot to
win Game seven. Like Draymond plays in Game four, there
might not in game five, there meant might not be
a Game six where Andrew Boga got hurt. And whether
(33:15):
or not you consider Draymond Green dirty, I don't. I
think he flails and flops and is a showman. But
there are times in which he makes plays that could
be perceived as dirty and people in the league perceiving
as dirty. The worst part about it is he ain't
a good player, right, He's not that good a player.
So this is basically this is the only way to
(33:36):
stay in the league. Look, you might think Kelly OLYNK
and maybe Kelly LYNNOK has the reputation of being dirty.
That was not a dirty screen. He didn't move, he
did and stick out a hipp he and stick out
a knee. He planted his feet, and he had his
arms tucked into his chest. It just so happens that
he's gigantic. And when you're gigantic and you set a
screen on a guy who's like like normally Kelly who
(33:59):
braids was six six seven venus in a defensive stance,
he's probably I don't know, five ft five, maybe six ft.
So if you're six ft and you come running into
a dude that's seven ft tall and he's got his
arms tucked into his chest, guess what you're going to
hit his elbows. He went down, Ubrey went crazy, Ubrey
went after him. Olenic didn't really fight back. He was
(34:22):
just like, yo, what was it? Kelly on Kelly crime? I? Oh, yeah,
by the way, I believe the Boston Celtics where Kelly Green?
Did you know that Kelly on Kelly? And Kelly was
wearing Kelly? But how about Draymond calling somebody else dirty? Right?
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Jamond as Draymond being Draymond. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at three
pm Eastern noon Pacific. Paul Pierce said this about Ray
Allen leaving the group in two thousand twelve to join
the Miami Heat. I was initially hurt by the whole
way everything went down. I thought we formed a brotherhood
here in Boston, you know, just how we carried ourselves,
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not only on the corp, off the court, and I
just figured like, if it was me leaving or kg leaving,
that would have been like, you know, where Rondo perky?
You know what? This is what I've been thinking about.
That was That's what all was heard by when Ray
didn't just at least give us a heads up about it,
He didn't give you a heads up about it. You
know why, because you're not that good of friends, right,
(35:30):
You're not that good of friends. If you're surprised by
something you reading the news about a friend, Hey, news flash,
not that good of friends. We're not that close. And
that's okay. You don't have to be best friends with
everybody you work with, with everybody you play with. You
just don't um And by the way, like this is
(35:54):
not like they won a championship in the eight and
then the that very off season he left a couple
of years later and they were starting the parts were
starting to be traded away. The run was clearly over.
The only people that didn't know the run was over
was the Brooklyn Nets, who traded for Pierce and Garnett
and Jason Terry and gave back three first round picks
(36:15):
and this year's ability to trade to swap first round picks,
like it's the worst trade in the history or best
in the history of basketball. Like the Nets were the
only team that didn't know what was going on. But
everybody else is like, they're kind of done. Oh, but
it was a brotherhood. We were tired. It's about more
than basketball, Like I was like not really. Then you
(36:36):
had Kendrick Perkins, who, of course part of that championship
team was traded away to Oklahoma City. He offered this
up in regards to Westbrook and Durant and that relationship.
The night that Russ actually broke the record, I had
tex Katie. He saw me at six and was like,
height man man. Russ had a nice conversation. But the
(36:58):
media don't even know nothing about it. But I just
let it be known that you know, they're back on
talking terms, you know what I mean. So, and I
wouldn't be surprised if Katie make a little run. I
wouldn't be surprised if he goes back to Oklahoma because,
in my opinion, I don't think Ru's going with all right,
so he doesn't think Gress is going nowhere. He thinks
Kendrick Perkin, by the way, is the worst secret keeper
(37:18):
in the history of secret keepers. Do you remember last
year around this time when he was Kendrick Perkins was
uh he was. He said like, yeah, me and I
had to sign some papers to not tell anybody what
team what we were talking about, but we talked about
some teams. Remember that, Like wait, wait, you had to
(37:41):
sign a non disclosure agreement and then to disclose the
fact that you were talking about other teams, leading anybody
with the brain to think that Heay Katie is actually
thinking about leaving. No, I didn't. I didn't say any
team's names. Like, yeah, but you said you were talking
about teams. That's kind of enough. Now we can draw
the conclusion as to which teams are a legit it possibility.
(38:02):
And then he said, like, I don't want to put
this out in the media. Dude, you're on television. You've
become the media hot Mike. But like, bygones are bygones,
and a good phone conversation or a good text, especially
(38:23):
at just the right moment. I think most things, most
relationships are in some lay level reparable, right do you reparable? Reparable? Reparable?
I like reparable. It sounds more intelligent, you know, but
(38:43):
we don't tell Kendrick Perkins a secret. Russ and Durant
are back on speaking terms. I don't think Russell Westbrook's
leaving because he likes being king there. But I also
think that that says of now that's after one year
without Durant, frustration could build that the moves aren't made
to have him a better team and next year he
could still go back to l A. And I'm not
buying that KD. Let's say again, let's see what happens.
(39:05):
K D wins a championship or two, Like, why would
he leave Golden State? And if he did, why would
he go back to Oklahoma City? And there was some
sort of brotherhood that Ray Allen wasn't actually didn't know
that he was in. Oh, his brotherhood, I didn't know that.
I just thought this was a job, and we won
(39:26):
a championship and I went on to another job.
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