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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug gottlie Show. Heres in
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Doug Gottliebus Fox Sports, the Radioheart Radio A welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome,
Welcome in. I uh, I find some things to be
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really really interesting about the NBA Draft, But the one
thing that I find most interesting is how we're sort
of surprised still. We're still sort of surprised by really
bright kids who are really interesting. You know, if you
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listened to so many of those interviews last night, you
know I was obviously I've gotten a chance. I don't
know conkinepol and the family a little bit as they are.
Sherry's mom is originally sharing nor guard. Okay, Jeff Norgard
is one of the greatest players in the history of
Green Bay basketball, and so they're kind of part of
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our basketball family, if you will. And I've gotten to
know them, and they're incredible. The dad has had this league,
the dad's all timely score in Wisconsin Lutheran history, and
they've had a league. So the boys have been around
playing with against adults for a long time. They're about
the right things. They're not like robots, but they love basketball,
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and you know, then you hear guys you see on
social media like, oh, he's going to struggle to fit
in with Charlotte and their culture. Charlotte and their culture
is the reason they're losing. They have too many dipshits there.
They don't give a shit about winning, and they just
care about looking cool and spending money and doing their
things like that's I mean, Lonzo Ball has a different
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I mean, Lonzo has a different car every time. Nol
Ball is not a winning basketball player. Yeah, he he
is an eccentric player. He's super talented. But those the
guys that you want in your locker room, or guys
that are pros, and pros isn't just about like do
you jump high, run fast? Can you make the decisions?
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He's an elite shooter, elite passer. He's tough, he's big,
and oh yeah, by the way, he's a grown up.
And what I saw last night was outside of two
or three guys, a bunch of grown ups, A bunch
of grown ups like smart wins. Everybody knows it. And
most of those guys are really really smart.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's like you listen to Shay Gildas Alexander, the MVP
of the league, the MVP of the NBA Finals, and
the guys are really bright, thoughtful, uh you know, intellectually
curious dude, and that's what people want like and also interesting.
I saw people making fun of the Nets draft picks. Now,
I don't you know, they collectively don't seem to shoot
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the basketball particularly well, and that's obviously a skill. But
Sean Marks is part of that Spurs family and the
Spurs family. He continues to dominate right. Spurs Family's not
rebuilding the Spurs, but also that's where Sam Presty came from.
Smart wins, is my point. And most of those guys
draft last night blew me away with their with their
intellectual curiosity.
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takeaway from the NBA Draft.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Remember women mature more quickly than boys. I mean a
lot of parents have a teenage son. At seventeen, are
they going to be valedictorian or are you going to
be getting them out of juvie?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You really don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
By fifteen years old, you get a sense what your
daughter is. So I don't know what to do with
the NBA draft, Rick. I do think there's two guys
that will come in good teams. Cooper Flag VJ. Edgecombe
jump off the TV. We all watch them in March.
We all know they can play because they're on good
teams that will make the playoffs. Cooper will make it
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in Dallas. Vj'll make it in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
In the East.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I think the Spurs now have a really really good
core for so Wemby's your size, He'll be scoring size
block shots. Stefan Castle is going to be defense and distribution.
And then they go get Dylan Harper number two. I
think by his second year in the NBA he's gonna
be a real score. And then they got Carter Bryant.
Carter Bryant's the guy I talked about for the last month.
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He's the one guy thinks a bit of underrated in
the draft. I don't know if Carter Bryant's gonna be
a good NBA score. But that dude is long from
Arizona and he is going to defend day one like
he's disruptive.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, but I mean, you know again, like I like
Kurt Ren. He's his dad is a friend and dad
coached at a high school near me when I was
in California. But those guys are a bit away, you know.
So again, sounds like a good deal. Gonna be good players,
but very very young and unlikely to help in the
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very near future. Here's Dan Patrick talking about the last
six months from MAVSGM Nico Harrison.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
All the backlash you had, all the injuries, Kyrie's going
to be out for half the year, probably you get
a d and you got bailed out, the ultimate bailout
probably in NBA history, where it's like, oh my god,
what did we do? Now we still do it again.
He didn't play any defense, and then you end up
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with Cooper Flag. But Nico Harrison, by the way, this
guy he's got a trade a franchise player, death threats.
He can't even go to games or they you know,
they bow him, and you know, the team had all
kinds of injuries. He kind of limped literally into the playoffs,
and then all of a sudden, long odds, you win
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the lottery and then you get Cooper Flag. You can't
write a script for Nico Harrison where you go, hey,
listen to this pitch, Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, you know, I find it interesting, really really interesting
that so many jump ship on Nico and look, he
lucked into getting Cooper Flag. But I just always found
it weird that here Nico Harrison is the guy who
put together a team that went to an NBA Finals
last year. So last year he's a genius. This year
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he's an idiot. I don't necessarily get it. And if
Jason Kidd thought he was an idiot and didn't know
what he was doing, then when Jason Kidd had jumped
ship when he could have gone to the Knicks, he
did not.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Yeah, but the only reason I made that cut, the
only reason I cut that sound for this segment was
for this this ending by down.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Long odds, you win the lottery and then you get
Cooper Flag. You can't write a script for Nico Harrison
where you go, hey, listen to this pitch, Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
So Dan's referring to the age old thing where you
can't write lazy. People in broadcasting say that people will
get kicked out of script meetings if they were just
to present it to Hollywood, and I'll always say this,
that's ridiculous. I think the story of Nico Harrison's last
three or four months is very much in play for
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any Hollywood production. Keep in mind the threshold for things
that don't get you out of a script meeting. Pitch.
There's a movie about a snail that wins the Indy
five hundred. It's called Turbo. Look it up. So if
you're dealing with that threshold, a story about a a
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kind of a GM on a you know, mid to
decent team having the six months he's had that, I
think that's well in play though.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That's fair. Yeah, I mean, wait, snail didn't win the
Indy five hundred. Now, come on, man, I thought that
was a real story. I thought it was based upon.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
A true story, based on the true which gives them
a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah. I hear you, I do hear you. I really
do really do. Uh WHA can we play that? I said?
That's what the fox says? Oh sure, ship my bed
fucked Christophers start said this about the maps and Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
There are a lot of reasons not to like it.
You know, Kyrie's what thirty three, obviously gonna be out
until January coming off the a cl injury, and has
been injuries prone throughout his career. I think in the
last six he hasn't played more than sixty games since
the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen season. All right, So there's
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all of that that said, I actually think it was
a good deal because once they traded Luka, you can
I get it. Some people are, well, now you're gonna
get Cooper Flag, but like I felt like, you you
have to keep Kyrie because if you're gonna win the
championship in the next three years, which is what they've
been saying, then A D and Kyrie are pivotal and
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now you do have what could be a great Big
three if Cooper Flag is all that. And so I
think it was a move you had to make.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Kyrie has been nothing but great. Kyrie's been nothing but great. Yeah,
of course it's a movie you had to make. The
only issue with Kyrie is akin Like, it's not just
the knee he's coming off of, it's the litany of
other injuries and then the knee, and the knee is
at this point in his career. But once she brought
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Kyrie and then he traded for Anthony Davis, it put
a ton more pressure. I think they're gonna need another
guard and I just don't know where they get that from.
With Kyrie making this much money. But Cayrie, as much
as it's a lot of money, it it isn't a
maxed out deal. And he suffered knee injuries before and
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come back from them. Maybe not the exact same player,
but very close to. That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
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Speaker 2 (10:39):
All right, let's find out who are what is annoying
Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And now it's your annoying Doug.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I read the story that the CEO of the San
Francisco Giants is waiting or just outwardly stating that Barry
Bonds is going to be getting a statue out in
front of AT and T Park. And then this comes
on the heels of Sammy Sosa being welcome back to
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Wrigley a couple of weeks ago, and that came on
the heels of Rob Manfred lifting the lifetime ban on
Pete Rose. Now that Pete Rose thing is a little
different in this context. Pete Rose did die, and if
you want to go by the you know, literal term
of lifetime, I guess the lifetime has ended. But I'm
starting to see a disturbing trend of forgiveness. Maybe I'm
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the least forgiving person. My girlfriend knows, as she tells me,
you're the least forgiving person. I know. So that's the
maybe the context here. I don't think we should be
welcoming back Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, Mark Maguire, anybody who
was caught up in the in the steroid era and
ruined all these stats. I looked up the list of
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the top ten seasons all time home runs, six of
them by three different people. The top six, by three
different people were all done Fugazi. It was fake. They
cheated to do it. You know, prison is filled. Prisons
are filled with people that made bad character decisions. I
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don't care if the law that you were convicted of
has changed or is no longer the law you made
the decision at the time that it was illegal to
do it. Prison is filled with a bunch of horrible
character people. I don't think Major League Baseball should reward
or welcome back people that made the decision at the
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time to do something illegal. And here I'm gonna do
all the objections. It wasn't illegal at the time, Yes,
it was. It was illegal at the time to do steroids.
You could go to jail if you were caught doing steroids. No,
but baseball didn't have a rule for it. No, no, no, Well,
here's the difference. Major League Baseball players didn't allow teams
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and baseball to test for steroids. Major League Baseball Union
had just come off the Collision case and they had
a whole lot of leverage, and we know our players
are doing steroids, so you're not going to be able
to test them. There's a huge difference between those things.
These players made the decision to do something illegal, more
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immoral and unethical, and they shouldn't be rewarded with statues
or have a standing room only applause when they're welcome
back to the stadiums.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I could agree with you more. I'd love to. I'd
love to find a way to disagree with you, but
I agree with every word you just said, and it's
annoying that people, for whatever reason choose to ignore kind
of the basics of it. They cheated. The core of
what sports is about is I've worked harder, I am
better than you based upon all of my hard work
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and my mentality, and they just I've never seen anything
like it. There's no other world in which people that
blatantly cheat are rewarded as such. Guy scores sixteen hundred
and sat, but he does so by cheating. Do we
put a do they get into schools or not? I mean,
that's how you have to look at it.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
What I'm about to say is going to be called
racist by half of the political spectrum. I miss Kitlyn Clark.
I hate that I can't watch Kaitlyn Clark at her
full ability. She's been compromised the last three or four games,
and it's made these games really bad to watch. Like
the WNBA in general is an awful watch, it's hard
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to sit through these games. The only person I tune
into is Kaitlyn Clark. So if she's compromised by injury
and not being able to play well or not shooting well,
that is an annoying to me. And now today it's
been announced that she's going to miss tonight's game because
of a growing injury, very annoying to me. That I
don't have something to watch in the dog days of
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sports here.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, no, I hear that.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean again, you're you're a kind
of on a roll. Anything else annoying you.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
It takes the luster off of it takes the luster
off of the game, and it's just yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
No, I mean yeah, she's it's she's struggling right now.
It's not that much fun and there's nothing else worth watching.
I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Well, if you think I'm on a roll, I think
all three of us will be able to agree with this.
As functioning males, we could all agree on this. I
don't know if you've seen the viral video or not.
Maybe you guys while I'm talking, can find it. Chris
Robinson is a sprinter. Chris Robinson had a race yesterday.
Yes video has been very viral and the comments of
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the videos are kind of what the best of Twitter is.
I know Twitter's people take a shit on Twitter. People
hate Twitter, they're leaving Twitter or whatever. But if you
read the comments to this video. You have regained appreciation
because there are a lot of funny people out there,
and this is it's amazing to read this. So for
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those who don't know, I google. I I encourage everyone
to google this. A sprinter was running with and had
like one of those malfunctions where his shorts didn't work
well enough or something, so there was something dangling between
his two legs and he ended up he ended up
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winning the race. But it's very very clear what's going
on there. It's it's it's the entrapped thing has been
let loose between his legs, and I think I speak
for all three of us my takeaway from it. And again,
all the jokes are very funny. But if I was
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as well endowed as as Chris Robinson, I don't think
I would ever wear pants. I agree on that, right.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I thought we could also agree that track meat spelled
M E A T. It's a really good line.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
I didn't hear that one yet.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Across the finish line.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
First, yes, it's a hey, it's a sport of issues.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Did he win by head?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yes, well, uh, it's definitely a photo finish, photo finish.
Oh gosh. Uh so yeah, what is annoying about that?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I think it's what's annoying is that that that guy
feels the need to wear shorts. I would never wear
any any kind of pants or shorts.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, all the lines, all the funny lines are instead.
I guess it's low hanging fruit, right, But it's because.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
It's low hanging you know, Yes, first.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You got that one. What's annoying? I don't know it's
annoying that. Uh, what was the first one? That I
despise people who want to rewrite history because you liked
people hitting home runs, allowing cheaters to be celebrated, the
sport to be as annoyed.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (18:40):
These this has become two fixtures. In this segment, Gil
Arenas and Nick Young act like they dislike each other.
They get into these like brawls, verbal brawls on Arenas's podcast.
Nick here's the dynamic. Nick Young is kind of the
silly person that's always stoned, and then Gil Arenas has
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outrageous takes on things. So a lot of times those
things don't mesh well. And it sounds like this.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Like I was not there and I was bout in
the locker room, and we was having these discussions and
one with three rings like I waide it up.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I think came, that's fine. That wasn't my opinion.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I think it was a fact because I said, y'all
want to argue with the nigga that was there.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
They came, can't be affect if you don't get out.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
The first round.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Come.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, that one actually could have been your annoying. But
it's also they've somehow Gilbert Reinez has made himself and
is any on one of the networks.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Now he was given an Amazon contract, but that was
about There was a period of time in two thousand
and two when people were saying that Tracy McGrady may
be more talented than Kobe. Gil was saying. I was
actually in locker rooms we were having those discussions. Nick
Young's a younger guy, and he's like, fuck that man.
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And that's how that came to be Doug.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Listening to those guys yell at each other, I felt
like the guy stuck in between Harry and Lloyd in
Dumb and Dumber Guys.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
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