June 26, 2025 • 45 mins
On a Thursday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug explains why the NBA draft was a tough watch and how Mavs GM Nico Harrison looks pretty darned good about now. Doug reacts to Adam Silver's take on the rash of Achilles injuries.
Doug welcomes long-time college hoops analyst and coach Fran Fraschilla onto the show to break down night one of the NBA Draft.
On this installment of "Don't Call it a Throwback, Thursday", Doug and the crew feature the year 2018.
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America Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Do doo. Hope
you're having a great day the day after the NBA Draft, right,
but wait, there's more. Uh you know, it's there's a
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lot of interesting parts about last night's NBA draft, really
last night, a lot of interesting parts. One part is
which we discussed yesterday, which is there's more you're like
really like, yeah, well there's a part two. Why why
you know? When I was a kid, my dad loved
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the movie Weekend at Bernie's And yes, I know, we
can at Bernie's became kind of got recycled because, frankly,
in some ways our previous president, President Biden, it felt
a little bit like Weekend at Bernie's at the time,
right where he's has somebody have him wave. Oh, Joe's
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very much alive and relatively well, although cognitively there's definitely
some decline there. But if you know the movie, and
by the way the movie is, they went to go
stay at there was it his uncle Bernie's house, and
Bernie dies, but they're staying at this awesome house, so
they're like, ah, who needs to know? It was a
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one joke movie. I will never forget ever. My late
father loved the movie so much. I don't remember when
Weekend at Bernie's Two came out. I want to say
it was like when I was in eighth grade, maybe
early in high school, but on a tournament weekend, on
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a Saturday night, we went all as a team to
see Weekend at Bernie's Two. And it worked out about
as well as you thought it would work out for
a one joke movie. To have a second joke like
He's still dead, it's not even funny. Not sure it
was that funny the first time around. It's kind of
like the NBA Draft. And again you're hearing this from
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a basketball guy, and I will just tell you, honestly,
my dream, like any basket college basketball player's dream, is
to have your name called the NBA Draft. But the
two day thing when there's no real reason to pay
attention today other than you know, the idea of trades
and sort of a free agency bonanza. That's it, But
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there is. You know, there's something to be said for
a life in media, There's something to be said for
a life in business. There's something to be said for
a life in sports. And that's it's a long life.
Don't believe me. Tech Nico Harrison was kind of an
interesting hire, coming straight from Nike to be the GM
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of the Dallas Mavericks last year. This time, he looked
like a genius. All the moves he had made, from
drafting Derek Lively to acquiring Daniel Gaffer to trading for
Kyrie Irving all seemed to come together. They went to
the NBA Finals, which which was very surprising, even hiring
Jason Kidd right like, Jason Kidd has been a really
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good coach with the Mavericks, but his previous head coaching stop,
I believe, was with the Milwaukee Bucks and it wasn't
very well regarded. Just wasn't. He was a part of
the Lakers championship team in the bubble. But from hiring
Jason Kidd to acquiring Gafford, drafting Lively, trading for Kyrie Irving,
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extending Kyrie Irving. Everything seemed to work and they got
to the NBA Finals. Then you fast forward to this
year and he made the decision, Hey, I just I'm
done with Luca. I don't want to have Luca at
three hundred plus million dollars and we move on. He
goes against Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis as oft injured and shocker.
Then Anthony Davis gets hurt at halfway through his first
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game with the Mavericks, and then they're burning him in
effigy and having protests and yelling out his name and
holding up signs, and you're like, wow, he went from
king of the world to you got to get rid
of him. Then lo and behold, something interesting happens on
the way to him being ousted because fans are just
so turned off. They get the number one overall pick
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and they select Cooper Flag. Here's what Nicola Harrison was
asked after the draft. If he thinks the addition of
Cooper Flag will quell the backlash from his fans.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Niko piggybacking off that, are you hopeful optimistic step by drafting.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Crooper, some of the anger that had.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Been directing it directed at you personally will subside.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
That I'm hoping, so you know, I'm assuming so a
little bit maybe I'm hoping so I'm assuming so one
would hope. I don't. I didn't understand the whole backlash previously.
Didn't help that Mark Cuban didn't have his back. It
didn't help that others did not as well. Probably doesn't
help that Luca, although he's done before, seems to be
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on a diet the summer and putting out videos to
show he's much slimmer and much more engaged. And why
wouldn't you do that when you're in Dallas? And oh yeah,
by the way, you were set to make, you know,
a Supermax contract the likes of which we hadn't seen
before in the plus three hundred million dollar variety. And
you know, if you can't get somebody to get in
shape when they're not making three hundred million dollars, good
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luck when they're making three hundred million dollars. But I'm
good again. I disagree with the trade. He knows way
more than I know. And my guess is that the
owners probably were also like, yeah, we just we don't
want to give that kind of money to a guy
that won't stay in shape. And it was a collective decision,
it wasn't one man's decision. And that's why he's still employed.
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But it's just a weird space in sports where you're like, oh,
this guy's a genius. No, now he's an idiot. And
now he's just lucky. Now he's just lucky. I'm struggling
to find a reason to watch tonight. Anybody, you know,
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I mean, you have you know. It's just the weirdest
place where in the draft where you're like, Okay, well
I love basketball. I love college basketball, but it's not
necessarily covered by college basketball people who really know the
college game. They don't do a great job of explaining
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some of the trades and some of what's Maybe that's
what round two becomes because so many players are in
fact traded. You don't have you have j Billis as
an analyst and nobody else, and even Jay, as much
as he's been good for a long time, he did
NBA games this year, so he knows more about the league,
but likely leaps in terms of depth of seeing the players.
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It's a weird place. Jase Dow Is there any pitch
you could get me for watching tonight Night two of
the NBA Draft.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, Lebron James Son is getting drafted right.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
No, No, that would be next year's second round, and
even then that would obviously be a reach.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh that was last year.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
That was last year. What you got, Sam?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, Caitlin Clark is out tonight. That's the reason to
watch the w or the NBA Draft.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
What happened to Kaitlin Clark? She got hurt? Or is
just she's missing shots, so she's taking a little break.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I groin.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Possibly, I think I want to say one else to
do with the other. You played the game, Doug, so
you can feel free to contradict everything I'm about to say. Okay,
she hasn't been right. She's been compromised on the court.
Something's bugging her. Monty can confirm. I'm sure that is
this is this growing injury what she missed all that
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time with or is this a new injury? But whatever
it is, it's made her compromise on the court, which
has made her games less less watchable, less enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think she started out with the quad injury and
then right now it's being reported as groin and yeah,
she's been I don't know if the injury then it
must be affecting her shot because it's been really bad.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
That NBA draft was so not interesting to so many
people on so many levels last night, and I was
trying to figure it out, like what what is it?
And obviously a bunch of it is they're they're one
and dones, you know, And yeah, I love that kan
Kinneppele went went forth. I think he's tremendous. I think
it's really interesting that where the NBA is trending in
(09:03):
You've got to be able to guard multiple positions, you
got to be able to shoot the basketball, you have
to have a high basketball like you. He's got those things,
and you know, because he's not a high flyer. Again,
look at the NBA playoffs and smart and skilled wins.
I mean, Shake Gildes Alexander is not the greatest athlete
in the world. He's just really smart and really skilled,
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and they kind of built the system around that skill set.
But I kind of figured out just an additional reason,
or maybe it's a main reason. I mean, I do
I think that not most people don't watch college basketball
in the regular season unlike they used to. Too many
games on NBA games around all the time. It's just
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it's hard to follow guys transfer all the times. You
don't know who's where or what what's going on. The
leagues have changed, rivalries have diminished, all of those things
have heart. Now you still watch the NCAA tournament, so
you have most people have a defined opinion on people
that played in the NCAA tournament. If you didn't, you know,
the two kids from Rutgers, nobody's seen play. But I
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think the other part too, it is the teams that
we traditionally care about over the last decade. Lakers, Warriors, Clippers, Nicks,
who else didn't even have a pick last night, you know,
they literally not involved in the Nuggets. I don't think
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had a draft pick. So it's like it's not just
that you don't know the players, you don't even care
about the teams that you're going to. It was a
weird night last night where an event that I've covered for,
you know, twelve years in person, just I struggled to
get through and then they're like, oh, yeah, by the way,
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if you like tonight, and you're like, eh, tomorrow night
is going to be worse but the same, but the same.
But I just if I tried to nail down the
two biggest reasons is first is nobody knows who these
guys are because they're one and gone outside of Cooper Flag.
And the next is that the teams that are involved.
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And then I think the last part is most of
them are so young they're not going to help you
a ton of year one anyway. It's not like the
NFL draft, where if you draft a quarterback, you know
you're going to start that quarterback, and if you're trying
to find kind of a loaded roster with them, or
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Speaker 1 (12:12):
He still works for ESPN, so you know, I can't
do is. I can't allow him to be critical of
his employer, but I can You know what I missed
last night. I missed our next guest brand for Scilla,
longtime college basketball analis, longtime head basketball coach, places like Manhattan,
places like New Mexico, places like Saint John's. And of
course he's kind of have to spend some time with
us year in between Day one and Day two of
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the NBA Draft before we get to last night. Friend,
this is this is gonna be a rough one, Like
why why are we having any idea what we're having
a two day event here?
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Oh, I don't know. I mean to try to model
the NFL, which obviously you can't do. NFL's a you know,
the eight hundred pound guerrilla. But I really don't have
an answer. You're gonna put me on a spot that
I'm not gonna be aw.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Just I'm just again as as fired up as you
used to be when you were working on the draft
now that you're you know, using social media to be
on the draft. Ye, what's what's the level of excitement
for Day two.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I don't know. It's a good question. I honestly don't know.
I mean, uh, listen, I love this draft. I do
it twelve months a year. We'll we'll be on serious
radio tonight. I'll be You'll be able to hear me there.
But I don't know. I don't know. I've I've been
off the draft since WoDES came and brought his crew
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with him. I know the NBA draft as well as
anybody who does media. But having having said that, you
and I both know television, radio, whatever it is the media,
it's very subjective. One man's junk is another man's treasure,
you know. And uh, I'm it's crazy. I love I
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love what I do. I love celebrating all these kids.
By the way, you know, the cool thing about what
I do at ESPN is I do so many games
and get to know these guys when they're freshmen and sophomores,
and even the guys that are one and done is VJ. Edgecombe,
for example, I saw them. I'm gonna go see bail
with practice next week they'll have another one and done
tun day from the Southern California kid all time we'd
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score the state of California, by the way, But I
get to know these kids when they're young players in
college and and even the international guys. Obviously I don't
follow it as closely as I used to. I don't
travel overseas anymore. But there were a couple guys drafted
last night where I laughed and I said, oh my god, goodness,
Hanson Yang. Would I have had fun with him? You know,
the Chinese version of Marcasol. But it's it's good. I
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don't know why I didn't watch a second on TV.
I honestly didn't, So I don't know what the.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You did it is? You didn't, Yeah, you didn't A
ton Okay, that's Cooper. Yeah, what's your revel like? What
what's your reasonable tations? Oh?
Speaker 6 (15:03):
You know, I've said this many times in the last
couple of months. He's so fortunate that he's gonna the
Maverick's going to have him on two tracks. The first
track is he gets to play for the next three
years with likely three Hall of famers. I mean, I
think you make a reasonably great argument for Klay Thompson,
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Kyrie Irving, and Anthony Davis all being eventual. You know
Nasmith Hall of Famers now you know, maybe not maybe
two of the three, but those guys are great, and
he's going to get a chance to step into a
lineup and you throwing Gafford who just resigned. Dwhite. Powell's
a good NBA role player, and I think the kid's
going to be terrific right away. Now, not necessarily in
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terms of averaging twenty five points a game, but what
will translate immediately Doug is his incredible competitiveness. He has
a great IQ for the game. He's an intense competitor.
I think the veterans are going to love him, and
then and those guys, you know, head off to do
TV like you and I have done, those Hall of
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Fame guys. It'll become his team in Dallas for the
next ten years, let's say, starting year four, and I
think he's in a great spot and I do love
everything about him. Is he a Hall of Famer right now?
Hard to say. But I was a guy that thought
Luka Dontrich would make an All Star team two or
three times, and as it's turned out, he's already been
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All NBA like four or five times, So I don't
see that. But I also see outstanding NBA player.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Okay, what is who was to you the most surprising
pick in that lottery?
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Ooh, I have to think about that. I'm out at
the US Senior Open right now. Well, Hanson Yang going
to Portland right outside the lottery. That dumbfounded me. And
I will say this. I thought, let's take Jegor Demon
who went eighth to brook and I saw him a lot.
I think he's got potential to be a good NBA player,
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kind of a Josh Kitty type. I saw the Houston
Cougars absolutely take his lunch. You know, early in his
Big twelve season he did get better. But I'll say this,
I was really disappointed with the overall five picks at
Boston that Brooklyn made. I happen to like Drake Powell
from North Carolina, even though he averaged seven points a game.
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When the guy that I like the most average seven
points the game in the ACC and he's your, to me,
your best draft pick in the first round, that would
be scary to me. I was not a fan of
Danny Wolf. You know, if you're lucky, you get twelve
years of Kelly olynnok who's been a good player Sarah
cannot shoot. I mean, I love the fact that two
Israeli kids are going to Brooklyn, you know, having grown
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up in a Jewish neighborhood. I love that. But I
thought the Brooklyn draft hall the five picks was pretty mediocre. Honestly.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, Sarah is a bigger me. That's less athletic, bigger me,
That's what it is. Can't shoot. It's really, really, really
hard to get you in the in the NBA today.
I'll tell you what that was surprised by. Did you
see Derek Queen in person?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I did not see Derek this year in person, so
I can't you know. I mean, I could tell you
why I studied them on film, but I can't tell
you what I if I saw him in person, I
saw most everybody else. What's your take, and I'll give
you my opinion from a distance.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Well, No, it was more what New Orleans was willing
to trade up for him, right, Like that was ridicul
I mean, an unprotected first round pick for next year
for Derek Queen, Like he better be a home run
and you better hope that you're not in the lottery
and high in the lottery or what an absolute heist?
By the HWKS.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
I totally agree. I mean I think I think that
was a great deal for Atlanta. You know again, like you,
one injury is a zion away from being in the lottery.
Let's face it. You know, and you got a freshman,
you got a freshman, you got a rookie point guard
in Fears Well, I like, but you know they're one
injury away from Atlanta. You know hitting you know, no
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pun intended to lottery?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yep, As Bailey, would you adraft you?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Absolutely? Absolutely. I went and watched them practice in October.
You and I both know Steve Pico is a good, tough,
hard nosed coach. Here's what I would tell you about
as Bailey. First of all, he's he's as good a
tough shot maker as you'll ever find coming into it
into the NBA as an eighteen or nineteen year old.
If you go back and just watch, I saw him.
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I saw him versus Alabama in Las Vegas. He was
scintillating thirty nine against Northwestern, thirty seven against Indiana. He's
a sweet kid. Now what the agent was doing, I
can't tell you. I know Omar Cooper a little bit
Sharif's dad, but I love that kid. I saw him
practice in October. He plays with joy. I hope he
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embraces the fan base in Utah because they're gonna love him,
and I'd be surprised if he doesn't turn out to
be a very good NBA scorer. Having said that, I
thought Washington really for a team that you know, lost
out on Cooper Flag. I was a huge Trade Johnson
fan watching him in Dallas where we lived, and playing
at Texas. To me, he's like a Devin Booker Ray
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Allen type, you know, quintessential two guard score. And I'm
a little biased because my son James is now with
the Wizards, but I love what they're doing. They're kind
of trying to model Okay. See, you know if you
look at you know Will Dawkins and Michael Winger their
they're products of the Thunder and they now have like
seven guys that are twenty one years of age or younger,
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and they're likely to beat the lottery next year with
a chance to get AJ Debants or a Cambooser or
Darren Peterson.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
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Speaker 6 (20:53):
Oh boy, I can't wait to see.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Him, man, I can't. If he wants to sit, you're
gonna gain that.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
You're gonna get enough money to do, you know, remodel
that locker room or something like that locker.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Room and remodel has been Uh, I've been here a year.
It was supposed to be done in it's you know exactly.
Put this level works.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
You'll put that money to good use.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
For a power forward anyway. Yeah, put everything else on hold,
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Speaker 6 (21:40):
O that again. I miss the first part.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I'm just s g A. What's your reaction to how
he's evolved as a player, considering you saw him so
much when before.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Well, you know what's amazing. You gotta you gotta, you
gotta credit Paul George for those two teams being in
the finals because he wanted out of wanted out of
Indiana before that. You know, Sam Presty, he not only
got four first round picks, he got you know, a
rising second year player to come to OKC out of Kentucky,
you know, out of Canada, and it turned out to
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be you know, he's one of the best players in
the world right now. And you know the interesting thing now,
just just doing some research, they're going to have to
pay the Big Three eight hundred million between the three
of them when they do all their deals, probably here
by the start of the season. And what that means
is guys like lu Dort, Isaiah Hartenstein, maybe Caruso. You know,
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you're going to have to replace those guys with cheap labor,
which is why they are going to use a lot
of these first round picks like Thomas Sorber, who I
really like out of Georgetown. He's likely the replacement for
Isaiah Hartenstein. Maybe not this season, but certainly within the
next year. Luport's only twenty six man. He is phenomenal,
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But do you pay him because you're going to be
at the second apron for sure with the Big Three,
So all those first round picks are gonna end up
being rotation guys. And what it means for Thunder fans
is you're gonna lose some really you know, beloved guys
here in the next year or two because you just
can't afford to pay.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Everybody, so you max you max out chet Holmgren.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Huh, Max, I think you do. I think you have to,
and if you don't, you got to come close, which
means you're still going to be you know, probably over
the second apron. So you know, I know, I mean,
go ahead, I know you got to run to find
a report if you're gonna if you're not gonna max
them out, or at some point you're gonna let them
walk or trade them, which they've done before in Okay sees.
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You know, well you better have a replacement for him,
because you know, I think that kid's still just coming
into his own. I mean he's only played like two
full seasons.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, no question, friend, you're the best man. I know
you got to run. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Hey appreciate Doug all the best, See soon, hopefully on
the road recruiting.
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guess tonight's round two. We will talk about Caitlin Clark,
who's missing tonight's game. She continues to struggle, and what's
the deal with the Brewers and the pirates drawing? Was
it seventy two thousand people? Ja, su?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I don't think any baseball park has seventy thousand people.
I think wasn't it like forty two? Forty two?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I think forty two? Well, remember the Big A used
to have seventy two back when it was what is
then closed? You remember that that was back in then.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Bring an unfair factors enter. You're talking about the cookie
cutter duo stadiums of the seventies and eighties. I'm guessing
Veterans Stadium had eighty thousand seas.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I think the last one to have a gigantic what
is it?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
What's the astrodome?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
No, no, it was. It was called Joe Robbie whatever
they call hard rock whatever they used to call hard
rock before they mind the stadium. Yeah, before they made
it smaller and the Marlins played there. They could get
like seventy plus in there. They could.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Wasn't it briefly a Jimmy Buffett's like land Shark Stadium?
Like it was like he was part of that land
Shark Stadium. Remember Jimmy Buzzett.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I Jimmy buff had anything to do with it, but
land Sharks. Like the beer wasn't that his beer?
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I don't know.
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Well, here's the deal, Like just to let the listener
behind the curtain a little bit. Sam's been burned by
Google AI on the error, Like he's one of those
guys who isn't able to use a tool that most
of his generation is a mastered. So now he just
distrusts AI in general. Because he's not good at it.
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It's full of mistakes. AI is experimental and prone to error.
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But when you look, when I go and look on
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an old guy. And then there's it's a gamer's account,
and then it's putting out like not porn, but like
softcore images of things. And I get everybody texting me
like you've been hacked, and I don't know, and again
I there's there's layers to it. I don't know how
to fix it.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
So everything looks fine on your end, and then but
then other people are like, uh, yeah, it's like a
fan page. I think I might have seen, like it's
some guy posing in front of a car, yes, yeah.
And they've been putting out like birthday announce like celebrity
birthday announcements. Yes, it's strange. It's strange because I and
I'm sorry I didn't alert you myself, but it sounds
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like people have been everybody's.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
At me and I don't know. I like, you know,
I've never felt so old in.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
My life and helpless, right, like yes, and it's so stupid,
Like we were, me and Jason were talking about this
off air, how like people who have major Twitter accounts, Instagram,
whatever happen Facebook, and they're just and then these companies
are just like, yeah, sorry, we can't do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
You're like, what what?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Why doesn't my You also can't to talk to anybody live,
like I just need to talk to somebody.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Where's the human where's the uh? Where's the one hundred
customer service?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And it's gonna be run by AI and we're all screwed.
You know how I feel about that.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
You start by saying AI was just experimental and not trustworthy.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I know, so I can't even trust the customer service.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
AI more or worse trustworthy than than Wikipedia.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I think, you know, I think Wikipedia it's almost like
when you have peer reviewed material. Yes, there can be
Wikipedia pages that are like it. You'll have a little
denoting thing that says this needs to be further checked
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
But I was gonna say each of these examples, I
hope you're not totally using as your source for knowledge,
Like each of those are tools for information for you
to verify as a part of the pie. You shouldn't
never fully get sold by any information you get on
any of these Wikipedia.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I just trust humans, like so, yes, there are people
that wanted to go in and actually write stuff that's
wrong just to like slander someone. But I'm gonna trust
the humans and doing peer review over bots right now,
doing that just for now until I see otherwise.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I don't trust it.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Sam is thirty eight going on sixty five with that,
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, yeah, he definitely, he definitely is. It is Thursday,
and we do something fun on Thursday. No, I don't
think the NBA Draft Day two is fun. I do
think not calling it a throwback Thursday is fun.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Don't call it a throwback th back Thursday, Jay stew
what's the year.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Beg you, Doug. I'll take it from here seven years ago,
seven years ago today. And that's that's not funky math
that Doug tried to use it's definitely seven years ago today,
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Oh so so you remembered you remember my math?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
But yeah, fuzzy math or what what did George Bush
call it a hazy math or something?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Anyways, I was told there'd be no math.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
The draft, the NBA draft of twenty eight eighteen. There's
one significant player that was drafted that year that Moncey
has a lot of interest in. And that's why I
chose this year. First of all, we were all alive
and well in twenty eighteen, and so we remember it
very much. But that draft featured one player that has
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become very significant. But I will say this, DeAndre Ayton
was the top overall pick by the Suns. He didn't
pan out.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Uh, Marvinton, who's he with now?
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Isn't he with the tail?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah? Marvin Bagley at a duke went to the Kings
that didn't quite work out. Somebody by the name of
Luka Doncic went third overall out of Slovenia to the Hawks,
traded to the Mavericks. But there was one player at
pick eleven chosen by the Hornets, then traded to the Clippers. Moncey,
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do you remember this night that the Clippers drafted shake
Gilgis Alexander and everything that happened in the seven years
since then.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
First of all, I don't know why we picked this
year to dive into that, because if we really want
to talk about what killed me in twenty eighteen, wasn't
the fact that we got shake Yield just Alexander in
a trade with the Hornets. That happened immediately, because I
really didn't know what to expect from shake yel just
Alexander at the moment. But earlier in twenty eighteen is
when the Clippers traded Blake Griffin. That was the hardest
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moment for me of twenty eighteen. Trading Blake Griffin to
the Pistons was really rough. I know that age was
taking over and injuries and he wasn't the explosive Blake Griffin.
But till this day, I feel like Blake Griffin should
still be a Clipper and it should have just been.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Like you brought us back to life.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
And so at this time I remember Sga like us
getting him, but I didn't know anything. I wasn't expecting this.
You know, he wasn't an immediate star with the Clippers.
It took him in it but they're hunch was always there.
So yes, when he was traded after the fact for
that Paul George trade to play with Kawhi Leonard, it
was like, man, what are we letting go of? What
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are we letting go of?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Is Doc Rivers the GM coach or did he have
an official GM at that point?
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Let's yeah, I hate it when when he was both.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, both of those moves, Doug didn't they end up
paying off. Like Blay Griffin was well passed his productivity,
he was SGA was an amazing draft pick. So whoever
the GM was at the time, props to them, right.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, you know it's not glcks fault. It's not Click's fault.
It's not it's not all of us.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I love Blake.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
That was Jamie Fox, right, I know we've had that
in the system. Oh yeah, he was great. So yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Doc Rivers was the general manager and head coach of
the Clippers from twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen to twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
So did Guy Lawrence take over?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah? I think so, Frank Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Frank Frank.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah. By the way, since we're talking about the Clippers,
just go back to twenty twenty five. They had Did
they have the final Are.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
We going back to twenty twenty five or are we No?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
No, no, just just go back twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
But let's just go because we were Actually we went
in the DeLorean to twenty eighteen. I want to go
back into the I want to go back to the
future to today. Okay, did the Clippers have the final
pick of the draft of the first night?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Can we talk about Yanick a class? It's tomorrow in
our literature class, we will be discussing the works of
sixteenth century philosopher Ionick Conan Niederhaeuser, whose name wins the draft.
That's what you liked about his name? His name is amazing,
Yanick Conan Niederhauser. It is Yeah, I mean, I mean
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Yanick is a cool name. Not enough people are named
Yanick and then you have a Conan with a K
and then your last name is Niederhauser. I mean that
is dope. Sure, I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Think Brouser does sound like a.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Like the guy from an.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Niter.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Isn't that like a character from Animal House? Like it
was like a Kniedermeyer, Yeah right, Niedermeyer.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah Meyer.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
N How or it sounds like one of the girls
that Rusty hooked up with in European vacation when they
went to october Fest.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Also also could be a beer.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Absolutely, but Jicky, would you like to drink that?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Neither Houser.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Like I never heard this guy? Sure played at Penn State.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
It's a.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Draft student garden jan Conannederhauser. I just that wins. That
wins the name draft hands down, gold medal y.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
Let's hope it's not just the name that he brings
to the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah, hopefully he brings a name and game and a
game and we can call out and we can have
Niederhuser jerseys just flooding into a dome.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I got a correction. Uh, Michael Winger was the GM
that traded Blake Griffin and I'm glad we got that.
Got that cleared up. Michael Winger. Winger not to be
confused with the band Winger from the early nineties, or
the or the character Winger from Stripes play about Bill Murray.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Or the Wiener that we saw running nice and that
that hurdles on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Close close Doug track meet nice nice nice want nose something?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
No, No, what do you remember from twenty eighteen, Doug
sports wise, when game of inches? What comes to mind?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Not mine? Game of inches? But I'm laughing too much.
Oh maynh uh? Really you want my opinion? Now? God,
I gotta work, Okay, fine? Uh twenty eighteen. Let's start
with the interesting part because by twenty eighteen it really
became about the National Football League, right, I mean when
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we go way back in time, like that's when other
sports were bigger. That was a year that the Rams,
uh and the Saints were atop the NFC, right, and
what I remember, God so much and you had so little.
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That's the Cancay Chiefs. Of course. Didn't they win the
Super Bowl that year?
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
No, no, no, it was the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
That was the Eagles. That was the what's it called
Philly's Special Year? Yes, it's correct.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
It is the part in don't call it the throwback
that we reach every single week. This is the part
where we say the super Bowl that happened in February
of that year is one thing, but the entire season
is a different thing. Sure, so we who won the
super Bowl? When people say the twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Patriots won the super Bowl that year?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Right in nineteen Yeah, nineteen and then they lost to
the Eagles obviously in that twenty eighteen Super Bowl. Correct,
I think one of the best super Bowls I've ever watched.
Absolute shootout, incredible quarterback numbers between.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Wait, nick Fole and No, that was a twenty eighteen
super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yeah, I'm just saying, but we are also we do
this thing where we stretched the year into the next year.
Dan Danis sets.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Which you want? Which one do you want to count?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
We'll talk about the Pats going eighteen into nineteen, right, Okay,
See I don't like that personally. I like just to
talk about the champion of that Super Bowl that year, which.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Was the last. That was the last Tom Brady super Bowl,
wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Well he won one of the Bucks, right right? He won't?
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, Well, the last Tom Brady Patriots super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
The one against the Rams, was thirteen to three, I believe,
and I remember it as being one of the most
boring super Bowls I've ever watched. I believe Julian Edelman
was the MVP of the Super Bowl. He didn't have
a touchdown, but he had like one hundred sum receiving yards.
It was all about defense. It was Sean mcvay's Jared
Goff team got shut down in the you know, in
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the game three points and it was a total snooz fest.
I'm sure ew England Patriots fans loved it, loved it,
but not great for the rest of us watching a
thirteen to three game.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Okay, so in college football that year that ended up
being the year that Clamson won the national championship. But
LSU played Texas A and M and the final score
was seventy four to seventy two. The game lasted nearly
five hours, seven overtimes, and yeah, that was I think
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that was the game that people are like, you know,
we used to wait for get to go to the
third overtime before you have to go for two, And
they were like, yeah, we got to do this thing
right away, so they moved up to the second overtime.
You have to go for two.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Two.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Two very noteworthy things happen on the Diamond that year
the Diamond. The Red Sox won the World Series. They
beat the Dodgers in five games. Of course, they were
stealing signs as Alex Coral was caught and then suspended
for a year. After that, Shohail Tani made his major
league debut. You with the Angels, Doug, Yeah show.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Hey, Hey, by the way, Angels aren't terrible this year. No,
I just want to point that out. Yeah, they're not
terrible this year. Actually that's their new slogan. I'm not
sure if you've been by the Big A recently. You
drive by on the fifty seven, it doesn't say that,
and it says Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim and Orange County,
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We're not terrible, does it really?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
When you go south down on the fifty seven and
you exit Orangethorp, you see that sign Orangethorp in the
fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Oh, that's great, that's great.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Orangetorp not to be compared with confused with ogletor jim Thorpe,
jim Thorpe and Oglethorp. Who is the who is the
goon in slap Shot? I just want to point that out.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I love what we're bringing up, like people's names in
movies and in real life. Yeah, like they're as if
they exist. You know why the Angels are actually decent
is because they have problem probably the best, one of
my favorite names in all of baseball. Like I loved
uh Jannik Coneniedterhauser, who just drafted out of Penn State.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
To the Hauser one time and our Coberfest. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
The Angels have a guy named log and old happy
I love to say, Oh Happy, Oh, Happy day.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Kind of a dark kind of a dark time in music,
right because the most downloaded song that year was God's Plan.
And though I liked the song, it has nothing to
do with God's plan. Right, Like, this is a song.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I like, Drake.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
I don't know this one's this one's all right, it's
got a good beat. I started playing Drake again.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Technically, isn't everything under the umbrella of God's plan anyhow?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
It goes well God's plan.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I guess. But and then he has the and then
it has the music video, which doesn't fit this either.
Whether he's just handing out money, he's going around my
I mean like just being hey man, you're a tough
time here to hand out some money. Also, don't know
how that's God's plan. There's a lot of bad things
they've been wishing and wishing and wishing on me. How
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is that God's plan?
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Again?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I'm gonna stick to my take. Everything that happens is
under that umbrella. But twenty eighteen was also.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
That was a post that was a big post maloneer
and my.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Favorite song of the past ten years. If you're right, Jason,
what's your favorite song of the past ten years? I
will say this song by post Mowop. This was the
I want to say, a little less popular than his
breakout single rock Star, but this is an incredible tune.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Sam breakout single.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Sam bastardized this song. He said that there's no good music.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
I don't I'm not a fan of his.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
I'm just not.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, he's too he doesn't stick to his genre. It's
too all over the place.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
He goes wherever the wind takes them, he goes wherever
the money.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Takes I take I disagree. I think he's a fraud.
He love remarkably, remarkably talented. Unpopular opinion, He's not talented
and he's a complete fraud.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
What you fraud?
Speaker 3 (42:12):
He's got tattoos and he's on his face. He's not
even trying to be before he came out.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
To what does that? What does that have to do
with anything? He has tattoos, And.
Speaker 7 (42:23):
I'm saying, if you're trying to do whatever the money says,
you're probably not gonna look like that.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
All right, enough of that crappy music, shut up, Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
In movies, the number one movie was Avengers Infinity War,
number two movie. If you don't think is the greatest
Marvel movie of all time, then you are Jason Stewart.
You are a Jason. You're supposed to have worked all
and it together. You're supposed to finish my.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Sentences as No.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
The number one movie was Infinity War. The number two
movie was Black Panther. If you don't think Black Panthers
the greatest Marvel movie of all time, then you are
what Jason?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Oh you're a racist? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
There you go, There you go, there you go.
Speaker 7 (43:09):
We are missing one big thing in twenty eighteen in
sports that I had to double check because I was like.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Is that the year?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Did you discount? Double check?
Speaker 6 (43:17):
I know.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Lebron James joined the Lakers in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 7 (43:23):
Yeah, I thought I wasn't sure if that was a year,
But yes, twenty eighteen is when he joined the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
That's a big one.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
That is a big one.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Is he a Laker? Does anybody think, like, hey, you
know all time great Lakers? No, anybody ever ranked Lebron
James one of the all time great Lakers. No, and
here's the kicker. How many years have you been with
the Lakers? So eighteen eighteen seven? How many years are
you with the Calves? Total? Mm?
Speaker 7 (43:51):
Seven?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Ish, let's find out.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I will bring up though, while you guys are looking
for that, that I don't know which one was this?
Phil Was this Jay Wright's second title or first? Villanova
won over Michigan, So so he'll be champion.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
He was in Cleveland for his first seven years, then
it was back for four, so this will be his
longest singular stretch with a team, not longest overall with
the team. But Lebron James will finish his career either
this year or next year when he'll make them draft Bryce,
which will be even far more comical than draft and BROWNI.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
And if and.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I. No one will ever say, you know all time
great Lakers Magic, Jerry West, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Gail Goodrich,
the Kobe Bryant, and Lebron James. I just there'll be
a a statue out front of it for him, But
he just won't all the same. And that is don't
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call it throw back Thursday.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
Don't call it a throwback. Throw Back Thursday,
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America Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Do doo. Hope
you're having a great day the day after the NBA Draft, right,
but wait, there's more. Uh you know, it's there's a
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lot of interesting parts about last night's NBA draft, really
last night, a lot of interesting parts. One part is
which we discussed yesterday, which is there's more you're like
really like, yeah, well there's a part two. Why why
you know? When I was a kid, my dad loved
(01:06):
the movie Weekend at Bernie's And yes, I know, we
can at Bernie's became kind of got recycled because, frankly,
in some ways our previous president, President Biden, it felt
a little bit like Weekend at Bernie's at the time,
right where he's has somebody have him wave. Oh, Joe's
(01:30):
very much alive and relatively well, although cognitively there's definitely
some decline there. But if you know the movie, and
by the way the movie is, they went to go
stay at there was it his uncle Bernie's house, and
Bernie dies, but they're staying at this awesome house, so
they're like, ah, who needs to know? It was a
(01:51):
one joke movie. I will never forget ever. My late
father loved the movie so much. I don't remember when
Weekend at Bernie's Two came out. I want to say
it was like when I was in eighth grade, maybe
early in high school, but on a tournament weekend, on
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a Saturday night, we went all as a team to
see Weekend at Bernie's Two. And it worked out about
as well as you thought it would work out for
a one joke movie. To have a second joke like
He's still dead, it's not even funny. Not sure it
was that funny the first time around. It's kind of
like the NBA Draft. And again you're hearing this from
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a basketball guy, and I will just tell you, honestly,
my dream, like any basket college basketball player's dream, is
to have your name called the NBA Draft. But the
two day thing when there's no real reason to pay
attention today other than you know, the idea of trades
and sort of a free agency bonanza. That's it, But
(02:59):
there is. You know, there's something to be said for
a life in media, There's something to be said for
a life in business. There's something to be said for
a life in sports. And that's it's a long life.
Don't believe me. Tech Nico Harrison was kind of an
interesting hire, coming straight from Nike to be the GM
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of the Dallas Mavericks last year. This time, he looked
like a genius. All the moves he had made, from
drafting Derek Lively to acquiring Daniel Gaffer to trading for
Kyrie Irving all seemed to come together. They went to
the NBA Finals, which which was very surprising, even hiring
Jason Kidd right like, Jason Kidd has been a really
(03:43):
good coach with the Mavericks, but his previous head coaching stop,
I believe, was with the Milwaukee Bucks and it wasn't
very well regarded. Just wasn't. He was a part of
the Lakers championship team in the bubble. But from hiring
Jason Kidd to acquiring Gafford, drafting Lively, trading for Kyrie Irving,
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extending Kyrie Irving. Everything seemed to work and they got
to the NBA Finals. Then you fast forward to this
year and he made the decision, Hey, I just I'm
done with Luca. I don't want to have Luca at
three hundred plus million dollars and we move on. He
goes against Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis as oft injured and shocker.
Then Anthony Davis gets hurt at halfway through his first
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game with the Mavericks, and then they're burning him in
effigy and having protests and yelling out his name and
holding up signs, and you're like, wow, he went from
king of the world to you got to get rid
of him. Then lo and behold, something interesting happens on
the way to him being ousted because fans are just
so turned off. They get the number one overall pick
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and they select Cooper Flag. Here's what Nicola Harrison was
asked after the draft. If he thinks the addition of
Cooper Flag will quell the backlash from his fans.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Niko piggybacking off that, are you hopeful optimistic step by drafting.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Crooper, some of the anger that had.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Been directing it directed at you personally will subside.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
That I'm hoping, so you know, I'm assuming so a
little bit maybe I'm hoping so I'm assuming so one
would hope. I don't. I didn't understand the whole backlash previously.
Didn't help that Mark Cuban didn't have his back. It
didn't help that others did not as well. Probably doesn't
help that Luca, although he's done before, seems to be
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on a diet the summer and putting out videos to
show he's much slimmer and much more engaged. And why
wouldn't you do that when you're in Dallas? And oh yeah,
by the way, you were set to make, you know,
a Supermax contract the likes of which we hadn't seen
before in the plus three hundred million dollar variety. And
you know, if you can't get somebody to get in
shape when they're not making three hundred million dollars, good
(05:53):
luck when they're making three hundred million dollars. But I'm
good again. I disagree with the trade. He knows way
more than I know. And my guess is that the
owners probably were also like, yeah, we just we don't
want to give that kind of money to a guy
that won't stay in shape. And it was a collective decision,
it wasn't one man's decision. And that's why he's still employed.
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But it's just a weird space in sports where you're like, oh,
this guy's a genius. No, now he's an idiot. And
now he's just lucky. Now he's just lucky. I'm struggling
to find a reason to watch tonight. Anybody, you know,
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I mean, you have you know. It's just the weirdest
place where in the draft where you're like, Okay, well
I love basketball. I love college basketball, but it's not
necessarily covered by college basketball people who really know the
college game. They don't do a great job of explaining
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some of the trades and some of what's Maybe that's
what round two becomes because so many players are in
fact traded. You don't have you have j Billis as
an analyst and nobody else, and even Jay, as much
as he's been good for a long time, he did
NBA games this year, so he knows more about the league,
but likely leaps in terms of depth of seeing the players.
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It's a weird place. Jase Dow Is there any pitch
you could get me for watching tonight Night two of
the NBA Draft.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, Lebron James Son is getting drafted right.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
No, No, that would be next year's second round, and
even then that would obviously be a reach.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh that was last year.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
That was last year. What you got, Sam?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, Caitlin Clark is out tonight. That's the reason to
watch the w or the NBA Draft.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
What happened to Kaitlin Clark? She got hurt? Or is
just she's missing shots, so she's taking a little break.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I groin.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Possibly, I think I want to say one else to
do with the other. You played the game, Doug, so
you can feel free to contradict everything I'm about to say. Okay,
she hasn't been right. She's been compromised on the court.
Something's bugging her. Monty can confirm. I'm sure that is
this is this growing injury what she missed all that
(08:17):
time with or is this a new injury? But whatever
it is, it's made her compromise on the court, which
has made her games less less watchable, less enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think she started out with the quad injury and
then right now it's being reported as groin and yeah,
she's been I don't know if the injury then it
must be affecting her shot because it's been really bad.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
That NBA draft was so not interesting to so many
people on so many levels last night, and I was
trying to figure it out, like what what is it?
And obviously a bunch of it is they're they're one
and dones, you know, And yeah, I love that kan
Kinneppele went went forth. I think he's tremendous. I think
it's really interesting that where the NBA is trending in
(09:03):
You've got to be able to guard multiple positions, you
got to be able to shoot the basketball, you have
to have a high basketball like you. He's got those things,
and you know, because he's not a high flyer. Again,
look at the NBA playoffs and smart and skilled wins.
I mean, Shake Gildes Alexander is not the greatest athlete
in the world. He's just really smart and really skilled,
(09:25):
and they kind of built the system around that skill set.
But I kind of figured out just an additional reason,
or maybe it's a main reason. I mean, I do
I think that not most people don't watch college basketball
in the regular season unlike they used to. Too many
games on NBA games around all the time. It's just
(09:48):
it's hard to follow guys transfer all the times. You
don't know who's where or what what's going on. The
leagues have changed, rivalries have diminished, all of those things
have heart. Now you still watch the NCAA tournament, so
you have most people have a defined opinion on people
that played in the NCAA tournament. If you didn't, you know,
the two kids from Rutgers, nobody's seen play. But I
(10:09):
think the other part too, it is the teams that
we traditionally care about over the last decade. Lakers, Warriors, Clippers, Nicks,
who else didn't even have a pick last night, you know,
they literally not involved in the Nuggets. I don't think
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had a draft pick. So it's like it's not just
that you don't know the players, you don't even care
about the teams that you're going to. It was a
weird night last night where an event that I've covered for,
you know, twelve years in person, just I struggled to
get through and then they're like, oh, yeah, by the way,
(10:51):
if you like tonight, and you're like, eh, tomorrow night
is going to be worse but the same, but the same.
But I just if I tried to nail down the
two biggest reasons is first is nobody knows who these
guys are because they're one and gone outside of Cooper Flag.
And the next is that the teams that are involved.
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And then I think the last part is most of
them are so young they're not going to help you
a ton of year one anyway. It's not like the
NFL draft, where if you draft a quarterback, you know
you're going to start that quarterback, and if you're trying
to find kind of a loaded roster with them, or
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Speaker 1 (12:12):
He still works for ESPN, so you know, I can't
do is. I can't allow him to be critical of
his employer, but I can You know what I missed
last night. I missed our next guest brand for Scilla,
longtime college basketball analis, longtime head basketball coach, places like Manhattan,
places like New Mexico, places like Saint John's. And of
course he's kind of have to spend some time with
us year in between Day one and Day two of
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the NBA Draft before we get to last night. Friend,
this is this is gonna be a rough one, Like
why why are we having any idea what we're having
a two day event here?
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Oh, I don't know. I mean to try to model
the NFL, which obviously you can't do. NFL's a you know,
the eight hundred pound guerrilla. But I really don't have
an answer. You're gonna put me on a spot that
I'm not gonna be aw.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Just I'm just again as as fired up as you
used to be when you were working on the draft
now that you're you know, using social media to be
on the draft. Ye, what's what's the level of excitement
for Day two.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I don't know. It's a good question. I honestly don't know.
I mean, uh, listen, I love this draft. I do
it twelve months a year. We'll we'll be on serious
radio tonight. I'll be You'll be able to hear me there.
But I don't know. I don't know. I've I've been
off the draft since WoDES came and brought his crew
(13:35):
with him. I know the NBA draft as well as
anybody who does media. But having having said that, you
and I both know television, radio, whatever it is the media,
it's very subjective. One man's junk is another man's treasure,
you know. And uh, I'm it's crazy. I love I
(13:57):
love what I do. I love celebrating all these kids.
By the way, you know, the cool thing about what
I do at ESPN is I do so many games
and get to know these guys when they're freshmen and sophomores,
and even the guys that are one and done is VJ. Edgecombe,
for example, I saw them. I'm gonna go see bail
with practice next week they'll have another one and done
tun day from the Southern California kid all time we'd
(14:19):
score the state of California, by the way, But I
get to know these kids when they're young players in
college and and even the international guys. Obviously I don't
follow it as closely as I used to. I don't
travel overseas anymore. But there were a couple guys drafted
last night where I laughed and I said, oh my god, goodness,
Hanson Yang. Would I have had fun with him? You know,
the Chinese version of Marcasol. But it's it's good. I
(14:44):
don't know why I didn't watch a second on TV.
I honestly didn't, So I don't know what the.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You did it is? You didn't, Yeah, you didn't A
ton Okay, that's Cooper. Yeah, what's your revel like? What
what's your reasonable tations? Oh?
Speaker 6 (15:03):
You know, I've said this many times in the last
couple of months. He's so fortunate that he's gonna the
Maverick's going to have him on two tracks. The first
track is he gets to play for the next three
years with likely three Hall of famers. I mean, I
think you make a reasonably great argument for Klay Thompson,
(15:23):
Kyrie Irving, and Anthony Davis all being eventual. You know
Nasmith Hall of Famers now you know, maybe not maybe
two of the three, but those guys are great, and
he's going to get a chance to step into a
lineup and you throwing Gafford who just resigned. Dwhite. Powell's
a good NBA role player, and I think the kid's
going to be terrific right away. Now, not necessarily in
(15:45):
terms of averaging twenty five points a game, but what
will translate immediately Doug is his incredible competitiveness. He has
a great IQ for the game. He's an intense competitor.
I think the veterans are going to love him, and
then and those guys, you know, head off to do
TV like you and I have done, those Hall of
(16:05):
Fame guys. It'll become his team in Dallas for the
next ten years, let's say, starting year four, and I
think he's in a great spot and I do love
everything about him. Is he a Hall of Famer right now?
Hard to say. But I was a guy that thought
Luka Dontrich would make an All Star team two or
three times, and as it's turned out, he's already been
(16:26):
All NBA like four or five times, So I don't
see that. But I also see outstanding NBA player.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Okay, what is who was to you the most surprising
pick in that lottery?
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Ooh, I have to think about that. I'm out at
the US Senior Open right now. Well, Hanson Yang going
to Portland right outside the lottery. That dumbfounded me. And
I will say this. I thought, let's take Jegor Demon
who went eighth to brook and I saw him a lot.
I think he's got potential to be a good NBA player,
(17:04):
kind of a Josh Kitty type. I saw the Houston
Cougars absolutely take his lunch. You know, early in his
Big twelve season he did get better. But I'll say this,
I was really disappointed with the overall five picks at
Boston that Brooklyn made. I happen to like Drake Powell
from North Carolina, even though he averaged seven points a game.
(17:25):
When the guy that I like the most average seven
points the game in the ACC and he's your, to me,
your best draft pick in the first round, that would
be scary to me. I was not a fan of
Danny Wolf. You know, if you're lucky, you get twelve
years of Kelly olynnok who's been a good player Sarah
cannot shoot. I mean, I love the fact that two
Israeli kids are going to Brooklyn, you know, having grown
(17:47):
up in a Jewish neighborhood. I love that. But I
thought the Brooklyn draft hall the five picks was pretty mediocre. Honestly.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, Sarah is a bigger me. That's less athletic, bigger me,
That's what it is. Can't shoot. It's really, really, really
hard to get you in the in the NBA today.
I'll tell you what that was surprised by. Did you
see Derek Queen in person?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I did not see Derek this year in person, so
I can't you know. I mean, I could tell you
why I studied them on film, but I can't tell
you what I if I saw him in person, I
saw most everybody else. What's your take, and I'll give
you my opinion from a distance.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Well, No, it was more what New Orleans was willing
to trade up for him, right, Like that was ridicul
I mean, an unprotected first round pick for next year
for Derek Queen, Like he better be a home run
and you better hope that you're not in the lottery
and high in the lottery or what an absolute heist?
By the HWKS.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
I totally agree. I mean I think I think that
was a great deal for Atlanta. You know again, like you,
one injury is a zion away from being in the lottery.
Let's face it. You know, and you got a freshman,
you got a freshman, you got a rookie point guard
in Fears Well, I like, but you know they're one
injury away from Atlanta. You know hitting you know, no
(19:08):
pun intended to lottery?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yep, As Bailey, would you adraft you?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Absolutely? Absolutely. I went and watched them practice in October.
You and I both know Steve Pico is a good, tough,
hard nosed coach. Here's what I would tell you about
as Bailey. First of all, he's he's as good a
tough shot maker as you'll ever find coming into it
into the NBA as an eighteen or nineteen year old.
If you go back and just watch, I saw him.
(19:33):
I saw him versus Alabama in Las Vegas. He was
scintillating thirty nine against Northwestern, thirty seven against Indiana. He's
a sweet kid. Now what the agent was doing, I
can't tell you. I know Omar Cooper a little bit
Sharif's dad, but I love that kid. I saw him
practice in October. He plays with joy. I hope he
(19:55):
embraces the fan base in Utah because they're gonna love him,
and I'd be surprised if he doesn't turn out to
be a very good NBA scorer. Having said that, I
thought Washington really for a team that you know, lost
out on Cooper Flag. I was a huge Trade Johnson
fan watching him in Dallas where we lived, and playing
at Texas. To me, he's like a Devin Booker Ray
(20:18):
Allen type, you know, quintessential two guard score. And I'm
a little biased because my son James is now with
the Wizards, but I love what they're doing. They're kind
of trying to model Okay. See, you know if you
look at you know Will Dawkins and Michael Winger their
they're products of the Thunder and they now have like
seven guys that are twenty one years of age or younger,
(20:41):
and they're likely to beat the lottery next year with
a chance to get AJ Debants or a Cambooser or
Darren Peterson.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yes, Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports trailer, you
give me the Darren Peterson scout anytime you want we
play them on No.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Oh boy, I can't wait to see.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Him, man, I can't. If he wants to sit, you're
gonna gain that.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
You're gonna get enough money to do, you know, remodel
that locker room or something like that locker.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Room and remodel has been Uh, I've been here a year.
It was supposed to be done in it's you know exactly.
Put this level works.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
You'll put that money to good use.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
For a power forward anyway. Yeah, put everything else on hold,
and and and and get player. Frankford Schell is our guest,
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Speaker 6 (21:40):
O that again. I miss the first part.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I'm just s g A. What's your reaction to how
he's evolved as a player, considering you saw him so
much when before.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Well, you know what's amazing. You gotta you gotta, you
gotta credit Paul George for those two teams being in
the finals because he wanted out of wanted out of
Indiana before that. You know, Sam Presty, he not only
got four first round picks, he got you know, a
rising second year player to come to OKC out of Kentucky,
you know, out of Canada, and it turned out to
(22:13):
be you know, he's one of the best players in
the world right now. And you know the interesting thing now,
just just doing some research, they're going to have to
pay the Big Three eight hundred million between the three
of them when they do all their deals, probably here
by the start of the season. And what that means
is guys like lu Dort, Isaiah Hartenstein, maybe Caruso. You know,
(22:35):
you're going to have to replace those guys with cheap labor,
which is why they are going to use a lot
of these first round picks like Thomas Sorber, who I
really like out of Georgetown. He's likely the replacement for
Isaiah Hartenstein. Maybe not this season, but certainly within the
next year. Luport's only twenty six man. He is phenomenal,
(22:55):
But do you pay him because you're going to be
at the second apron for sure with the Big Three,
So all those first round picks are gonna end up
being rotation guys. And what it means for Thunder fans
is you're gonna lose some really you know, beloved guys
here in the next year or two because you just
can't afford to pay.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Everybody, so you max you max out chet Holmgren.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Huh, Max, I think you do. I think you have to,
and if you don't, you got to come close, which
means you're still going to be you know, probably over
the second apron. So you know, I know, I mean,
go ahead, I know you got to run to find
a report if you're gonna if you're not gonna max
them out, or at some point you're gonna let them
walk or trade them, which they've done before in Okay sees.
(23:36):
You know, well you better have a replacement for him,
because you know, I think that kid's still just coming
into his own. I mean he's only played like two
full seasons.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, no question, friend, you're the best man. I know
you got to run. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Hey appreciate Doug all the best, See soon, hopefully on
the road recruiting.
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a big hour for you. We'll get ready for I
guess tonight's round two. We will talk about Caitlin Clark,
who's missing tonight's game. She continues to struggle, and what's
the deal with the Brewers and the pirates drawing? Was
it seventy two thousand people? Ja, su?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I don't think any baseball park has seventy thousand people.
I think wasn't it like forty two? Forty two?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I think forty two? Well, remember the Big A used
to have seventy two back when it was what is
then closed? You remember that that was back in then.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Bring an unfair factors enter. You're talking about the cookie
cutter duo stadiums of the seventies and eighties. I'm guessing
Veterans Stadium had eighty thousand seas.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I think the last one to have a gigantic what
is it?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
What's the astrodome?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
No, no, it was. It was called Joe Robbie whatever
they call hard rock whatever they used to call hard
rock before they mind the stadium. Yeah, before they made
it smaller and the Marlins played there. They could get
like seventy plus in there. They could.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Wasn't it briefly a Jimmy Buffett's like land Shark Stadium?
Like it was like he was part of that land
Shark Stadium. Remember Jimmy Buzzett.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I Jimmy buff had anything to do with it, but
land Sharks. Like the beer wasn't that his beer?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Why don't you use the machine?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
The machine is cursed?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah? Is the machine working?
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Now?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Well, here's the deal, Like just to let the listener
behind the curtain a little bit. Sam's been burned by
Google AI on the error, Like he's one of those
guys who isn't able to use a tool that most
of his generation is a mastered. So now he just
distrusts AI in general. Because he's not good at it.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
It's full of mistakes. AI is experimental and prone to error.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
So I personally have a current computer issue that I
need somebody from that generation to figure out. So I
feel like my IG was hacked last week, and then
now my Facebook and so there's a mirror account that's
like a mirror of mind, and my followers are getting it.
But when you look, when I go and look on
my Facebook account, it's there. It's fine, untouched. But there's
(26:41):
another one that says like Doug Gottlie, but it's like
an old guy. And then there's it's a gamer's account,
and then it's putting out like not porn, but like
softcore images of things. And I get everybody texting me
like you've been hacked, and I don't know, and again
I there's there's layers to it. I don't know how
to fix it.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
So everything looks fine on your end, and then but
then other people are like, uh, yeah, it's like a
fan page. I think I might have seen, like it's
some guy posing in front of a car, yes, yeah.
And they've been putting out like birthday announce like celebrity
birthday announcements. Yes, it's strange. It's strange because I and
I'm sorry I didn't alert you myself, but it sounds
(27:22):
like people have been everybody's.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
At me and I don't know. I like, you know,
I've never felt so old in.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
My life and helpless, right, like yes, and it's so stupid,
Like we were, me and Jason were talking about this
off air, how like people who have major Twitter accounts, Instagram,
whatever happen Facebook, and they're just and then these companies
are just like, yeah, sorry, we can't do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
You're like, what what?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Why doesn't my You also can't to talk to anybody live,
like I just need to talk to somebody.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Where's the human where's the uh? Where's the one hundred
customer service?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And it's gonna be run by AI and we're all screwed.
You know how I feel about that.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
You start by saying AI was just experimental and not trustworthy.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I know, so I can't even trust the customer service.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
AI more or worse trustworthy than than Wikipedia.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I think, you know, I think Wikipedia it's almost like
when you have peer reviewed material. Yes, there can be
Wikipedia pages that are like it. You'll have a little
denoting thing that says this needs to be further checked
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
But I was gonna say each of these examples, I
hope you're not totally using as your source for knowledge,
Like each of those are tools for information for you
to verify as a part of the pie. You shouldn't
never fully get sold by any information you get on
any of these Wikipedia.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I just trust humans, like so, yes, there are people
that wanted to go in and actually write stuff that's
wrong just to like slander someone. But I'm gonna trust
the humans and doing peer review over bots right now,
doing that just for now until I see otherwise.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I don't trust it.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Sam is thirty eight going on sixty five with that,
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, yeah, he definitely, he definitely is. It is Thursday,
and we do something fun on Thursday. No, I don't
think the NBA Draft Day two is fun. I do
think not calling it a throwback Thursday is fun.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Don't call it a throwback th back Thursday, Jay stew
what's the year.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Beg you, Doug. I'll take it from here seven years ago,
seven years ago today. And that's that's not funky math
that Doug tried to use it's definitely seven years ago today,
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Oh so so you remembered you remember my math?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
But yeah, fuzzy math or what what did George Bush
call it a hazy math or something?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Anyways, I was told there'd be no math.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
The draft, the NBA draft of twenty eight eighteen. There's
one significant player that was drafted that year that Moncey
has a lot of interest in. And that's why I
chose this year. First of all, we were all alive
and well in twenty eighteen, and so we remember it
very much. But that draft featured one player that has
(30:17):
become very significant. But I will say this, DeAndre Ayton
was the top overall pick by the Suns. He didn't
pan out.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Uh, Marvinton, who's he with now?
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Isn't he with the tail?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah? Marvin Bagley at a duke went to the Kings
that didn't quite work out. Somebody by the name of
Luka Doncic went third overall out of Slovenia to the Hawks,
traded to the Mavericks. But there was one player at
pick eleven chosen by the Hornets, then traded to the Clippers. Moncey,
(30:55):
do you remember this night that the Clippers drafted shake
Gilgis Alexander and everything that happened in the seven years
since then.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
First of all, I don't know why we picked this
year to dive into that, because if we really want
to talk about what killed me in twenty eighteen, wasn't
the fact that we got shake Yield just Alexander in
a trade with the Hornets. That happened immediately, because I
really didn't know what to expect from shake yel just
Alexander at the moment. But earlier in twenty eighteen is
when the Clippers traded Blake Griffin. That was the hardest
(31:29):
moment for me of twenty eighteen. Trading Blake Griffin to
the Pistons was really rough. I know that age was
taking over and injuries and he wasn't the explosive Blake Griffin.
But till this day, I feel like Blake Griffin should
still be a Clipper and it should have just been.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Like you brought us back to life.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
And so at this time I remember Sga like us
getting him, but I didn't know anything. I wasn't expecting this.
You know, he wasn't an immediate star with the Clippers.
It took him in it but they're hunch was always there.
So yes, when he was traded after the fact for
that Paul George trade to play with Kawhi Leonard, it
was like, man, what are we letting go of? What
(32:10):
are we letting go of?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Is Doc Rivers the GM coach or did he have
an official GM at that point?
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Let's yeah, I hate it when when he was both.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, both of those moves, Doug didn't they end up
paying off. Like Blay Griffin was well passed his productivity,
he was SGA was an amazing draft pick. So whoever
the GM was at the time, props to them, right.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, you know it's not glcks fault. It's not Click's fault.
It's not it's not all of us.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I love Blake.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
That was Jamie Fox, right, I know we've had that
in the system. Oh yeah, he was great. So yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Doc Rivers was the general manager and head coach of
the Clippers from twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen to twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
So did Guy Lawrence take over?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah? I think so, Frank Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Frank Frank.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yeah. By the way, since we're talking about the Clippers,
just go back to twenty twenty five. They had Did
they have the final Are.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
We going back to twenty twenty five or are we No?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
No, no, just just go back twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
But let's just go because we were Actually we went
in the DeLorean to twenty eighteen. I want to go
back into the I want to go back to the
future to today. Okay, did the Clippers have the final
pick of the draft of the first night?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Can we talk about Yanick a class? It's tomorrow in
our literature class, we will be discussing the works of
sixteenth century philosopher Ionick Conan Niederhaeuser, whose name wins the draft.
That's what you liked about his name? His name is amazing,
Yanick Conan Niederhauser. It is Yeah, I mean, I mean
(33:40):
Yanick is a cool name. Not enough people are named
Yanick and then you have a Conan with a K
and then your last name is Niederhauser. I mean that
is dope. Sure, I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Think Brouser does sound like a.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Like the guy from an.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Niter.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Isn't that like a character from Animal House? Like it
was like a Kniedermeyer, Yeah right, Niedermeyer.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah Meyer.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
N How or it sounds like one of the girls
that Rusty hooked up with in European vacation when they
went to october Fest.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Also also could be a beer.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Absolutely, but Jicky, would you like to drink that?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Neither Houser.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Like I never heard this guy? Sure played at Penn State.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
It's a.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Draft student garden jan Conannederhauser. I just that wins. That
wins the name draft hands down, gold medal y.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
Let's hope it's not just the name that he brings
to the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah, hopefully he brings a name and game and a
game and we can call out and we can have
Niederhuser jerseys just flooding into a dome.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I got a correction. Uh, Michael Winger was the GM
that traded Blake Griffin and I'm glad we got that.
Got that cleared up. Michael Winger. Winger not to be
confused with the band Winger from the early nineties, or
the or the character Winger from Stripes play about Bill Murray.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Or the Wiener that we saw running nice and that
that hurdles on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Close close Doug track meet nice nice nice want nose something?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
No, No, what do you remember from twenty eighteen, Doug
sports wise, when game of inches? What comes to mind?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Not mine? Game of inches? But I'm laughing too much.
Oh maynh uh? Really you want my opinion? Now? God,
I gotta work, Okay, fine? Uh twenty eighteen. Let's start
with the interesting part because by twenty eighteen it really
became about the National Football League, right, I mean when
(35:49):
we go way back in time, like that's when other
sports were bigger. That was a year that the Rams,
uh and the Saints were atop the NFC, right, and
what I remember, God so much and you had so little.
(36:13):
That's the Cancay Chiefs. Of course. Didn't they win the
Super Bowl that year?
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
No, no, no, it was the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
That was the Eagles. That was the what's it called
Philly's Special Year? Yes, it's correct.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
It is the part in don't call it the throwback
that we reach every single week. This is the part
where we say the super Bowl that happened in February
of that year is one thing, but the entire season
is a different thing. Sure, so we who won the
super Bowl? When people say the twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Patriots won the super Bowl that year?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Right in nineteen Yeah, nineteen and then they lost to
the Eagles obviously in that twenty eighteen Super Bowl. Correct,
I think one of the best super Bowls I've ever watched.
Absolute shootout, incredible quarterback numbers between.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Wait, nick Fole and No, that was a twenty eighteen
super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yeah, I'm just saying, but we are also we do
this thing where we stretched the year into the next year.
Dan Danis sets.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Which you want? Which one do you want to count?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
We'll talk about the Pats going eighteen into nineteen, right, Okay,
See I don't like that personally. I like just to
talk about the champion of that Super Bowl that year, which.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Was the last. That was the last Tom Brady super Bowl,
wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Well he won one of the Bucks, right right? He won't?
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, Well, the last Tom Brady Patriots super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
The one against the Rams, was thirteen to three, I believe,
and I remember it as being one of the most
boring super Bowls I've ever watched. I believe Julian Edelman
was the MVP of the Super Bowl. He didn't have
a touchdown, but he had like one hundred sum receiving yards.
It was all about defense. It was Sean mcvay's Jared
Goff team got shut down in the you know, in
(37:56):
the game three points and it was a total snooz fest.
I'm sure ew England Patriots fans loved it, loved it,
but not great for the rest of us watching a
thirteen to three game.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Okay, so in college football that year that ended up
being the year that Clamson won the national championship. But
LSU played Texas A and M and the final score
was seventy four to seventy two. The game lasted nearly
five hours, seven overtimes, and yeah, that was I think
(38:27):
that was the game that people are like, you know,
we used to wait for get to go to the
third overtime before you have to go for two, And
they were like, yeah, we got to do this thing
right away, so they moved up to the second overtime.
You have to go for two.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Two.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Two very noteworthy things happen on the Diamond that year
the Diamond. The Red Sox won the World Series. They
beat the Dodgers in five games. Of course, they were
stealing signs as Alex Coral was caught and then suspended
for a year. After that, Shohail Tani made his major
league debut. You with the Angels, Doug, Yeah show.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Hey, Hey, by the way, Angels aren't terrible this year. No,
I just want to point that out. Yeah, they're not
terrible this year. Actually that's their new slogan. I'm not
sure if you've been by the Big A recently. You
drive by on the fifty seven, it doesn't say that,
and it says Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim and Orange County,
(39:26):
We're not terrible, does it really?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
When you go south down on the fifty seven and
you exit Orangethorp, you see that sign Orangethorp in the
fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Oh, that's great, that's great.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Orangetorp not to be compared with confused with ogletor jim Thorpe,
jim Thorpe and Oglethorp. Who is the who is the
goon in slap Shot? I just want to point that out.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
I love what we're bringing up, like people's names in
movies and in real life. Yeah, like they're as if
they exist. You know why the Angels are actually decent
is because they have problem probably the best, one of
my favorite names in all of baseball. Like I loved
uh Jannik Coneniedterhauser, who just drafted out of Penn State.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
To the Hauser one time and our Coberfest. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
The Angels have a guy named log and old happy
I love to say, Oh Happy, Oh, Happy day.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Kind of a dark kind of a dark time in music,
right because the most downloaded song that year was God's Plan.
And though I liked the song, it has nothing to
do with God's plan. Right, Like, this is a song.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I like, Drake.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
I don't know this one's this one's all right, it's
got a good beat. I started playing Drake again.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Technically, isn't everything under the umbrella of God's plan anyhow?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
It goes well God's plan.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I guess. But and then he has the and then
it has the music video, which doesn't fit this either.
Whether he's just handing out money, he's going around my
I mean like just being hey man, you're a tough
time here to hand out some money. Also, don't know
how that's God's plan. There's a lot of bad things
they've been wishing and wishing and wishing on me. How
(41:10):
is that God's plan?
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Again?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I'm gonna stick to my take. Everything that happens is
under that umbrella. But twenty eighteen was also.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
That was a post that was a big post maloneer
and my.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Favorite song of the past ten years. If you're right, Jason,
what's your favorite song of the past ten years? I
will say this song by post Mowop. This was the
I want to say, a little less popular than his
breakout single rock Star, but this is an incredible tune.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Sam breakout single.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Sam bastardized this song. He said that there's no good music.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
I don't I'm not a fan of his.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
I'm just not.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, he's too he doesn't stick to his genre. It's
too all over the place.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
He goes wherever the wind takes them, he goes wherever
the money.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Takes I take I disagree. I think he's a fraud.
He love remarkably, remarkably talented. Unpopular opinion, He's not talented
and he's a complete fraud.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
What you fraud?
Speaker 3 (42:12):
He's got tattoos and he's on his face. He's not
even trying to be before he came out.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
To what does that? What does that have to do
with anything? He has tattoos, And.
Speaker 7 (42:23):
I'm saying, if you're trying to do whatever the money says,
you're probably not gonna look like that.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
All right, enough of that crappy music, shut up, Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
In movies, the number one movie was Avengers Infinity War,
number two movie. If you don't think is the greatest
Marvel movie of all time, then you are Jason Stewart.
You are a Jason. You're supposed to have worked all
and it together. You're supposed to finish my.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Sentences as No.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
The number one movie was Infinity War. The number two
movie was Black Panther. If you don't think Black Panthers
the greatest Marvel movie of all time, then you are
what Jason?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Oh you're a racist? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
There you go, There you go, there you go.
Speaker 7 (43:09):
We are missing one big thing in twenty eighteen in
sports that I had to double check because I was like.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Is that the year?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Did you discount? Double check?
Speaker 6 (43:17):
I know.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Lebron James joined the Lakers in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 7 (43:23):
Yeah, I thought I wasn't sure if that was a year,
But yes, twenty eighteen is when he joined the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
That's a big one.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
That is a big one.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Is he a Laker? Does anybody think, like, hey, you
know all time great Lakers? No, anybody ever ranked Lebron
James one of the all time great Lakers. No, and
here's the kicker. How many years have you been with
the Lakers? So eighteen eighteen seven? How many years are
you with the Calves? Total? Mm?
Speaker 7 (43:51):
Seven?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Ish, let's find out.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I will bring up though, while you guys are looking
for that, that I don't know which one was this?
Phil Was this Jay Wright's second title or first? Villanova
won over Michigan, So so he'll be champion.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
He was in Cleveland for his first seven years, then
it was back for four, so this will be his
longest singular stretch with a team, not longest overall with
the team. But Lebron James will finish his career either
this year or next year when he'll make them draft Bryce,
which will be even far more comical than draft and BROWNI.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
And if and.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I. No one will ever say, you know all time
great Lakers Magic, Jerry West, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Gail Goodrich,
the Kobe Bryant, and Lebron James. I just there'll be
a a statue out front of it for him, But
he just won't all the same. And that is don't
(45:01):
call it throw back Thursday.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
Don't call it a throwback. Throw Back Thursday,
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