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January 10, 2018 41 mins

Doug thinks NFL teams that are firing their coordinators and position coaches are addressing their real problems. He discusses a new trend in the NFL and why you will be able to watch it this weekend in the playoffs. 3 time Super Bowl Champion and former Patriot Matt Light joins the show to give his thoughts on the reported feud between Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, and Robert Kraft. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the dun got Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio. What up, It's the Dug gott
Leap Show Fox Sports Radio Today, coming to you from
the Land of Enchantment. You gotta admit, you gotta admit. Like, look,
New Mexico is known for um, some beautiful Vista's Santa

(00:21):
fe um meth right, I mean like it's because of
one TV show, because of Breaking Bad. It's known from
math uh but uh, you know in all the um
those those nicknames robmost is that whether you'd call them
right or is that monikers? What are those called? Like
when you say California is the Golden State, is that

(00:42):
the nickname? What is that? What is that actually called? Yeah?
I think I think a nickname is fine because it
isn't California is the Golden State. That's what it is,
the gold state. But I don't think that's technically a nickname, right,
like Golden State? Like right, the name for something else? Correct? Music? Music?
Do you want to hop in on this exactly what
that's called? Let's see. I just type did into Google
and the first thing that came up was California state nickname. Yeah.

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But see, I always thought like nickname was the name, right, Like,
my name's Ryan, everybody calls me Jimmy. That's my nickname.
I don't know, it's just my nickname. Right. My name's California.
Everybody calls me the Golden State. I don't think that's
a nickname. It's like a nick nick uh, series of
names of words together. I don't know. Anyway, Land of

(01:26):
Enchantment is pretty amazing, right, let's just be honest. Um,
that's like, you know, some guys have nick you know,
guys last name Smith, their nickname is always Smitty, Guys
whose last name is Murf, their nickname Murphy. The nickname
is always Murf. Right, But then there are some guys
that have just great nicknames. Um, what was the what

(01:49):
was the running back for pit Ironhead Hayward? Like, now
that's a nickname, that's a nickname. So I mean, like, look,
you have the Constitution State and the Golden State, and
Florida is the Sunshine State. New Mexico is the Land
of Enchantment. Like that's the iron Head of Haywood. Of

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of nicknames anyway, Welcome in Snug Gallup show, Fox Sports Tradio.
And there is a growing trend a growing chend of
coordinator changes in the National Football League. It's really kind
of remarkable. Um, if you looked overnight, Darryl Bevel was
fired by the Seattle Seahawks, and now it appears that

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they're gonna change their defensive coordinator as well. Um, Bob
Sutton retired with the Kansas Chiefs. They lost Naggy to
the Chicago Bears. And this comes on the back of
heels of yesterday. Ken Dorsey, Remember Ken Dorsey from Miami
played a little bit in the NFL. Ken Dorsey was
the quarterback coach in Carolina and Mike Shula was the

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offensive coordinator in Carolina. They were both let go and
and this this, honestly, a lot of it reminds me.
I'm not saying that that some coordinators aren't inept. They
are and there's a litany of quality coordinats. You know,
Mike Petton is up for a job. He's a former
defensive coordiner as the head coach with Cleveland Browns. Chuck Pogano,

(03:14):
of course, was defense according with the Ravens. Was talking
to him going back to the Ravens after being fired
by the Indianapolis Colts. I'm not saying that some of
some good coordinators aren't out there and that they wouldn't
improve the fortunes. But for example, in Carolina, it does
feel a little bit like, hey, there's a problem with
the plumbing in the house. There's a problem with the

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infrastructure in the house. You know your your foundation is cracking.
Somebody goes, yeah, let's just go and um, repaint the
front door. Let's go and take off the wallpaper and
paint every room in the house. Right, there's cosmetic redo.
And that's what you're seeing in a lot of these
places is a cosmetic redo. Like I'm sorry, but the

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Seattle Seahawks um the Seahawks and and Buyers a huge
Seahawks fan as well as fact he covers our NFL
previous show here on Fox Sports Radio. I mean, Dan
Buyer can attest to this. The Seahawks, they can change
defensive coordinators all they want, but like they're so screwed

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up with not just the personalities, but the injury age
and overall dysfunction because of salaries on that salaries on
that roster. It doesn't matter who you bring in, doesn't
matter who you're bringing Darryl Bebo gone, Chris Richard gone,
and like Chris Richard was a guy who's really well
respected twelve season in the NFL. I've been with the

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Seahawks in the previous regine, you know, and now now
he's out. And so sometimes I think what this is, uh,
people do this when they're selling a house, is they
they blame the realtor, like, yeah, but your house just
isn't worth what you think your house is earth. You know,
you do this when you settle a lawsuit, like man

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that that lawyer killed me or or you were guilty.
So I look around the NFL and one of the trends,
you know that the trend continues to bring in a
quarterback guru to be a head coach to work with
the quarterbacks and to not upset the quarterbacks. Um but
in Carolina especially, like, do I think Mike Mike Shoulder

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is great? Probably not. But I also think he's dealing
with the fact that he's got an erratic quarterback, the
guy who's better running it than he is throwing it,
a guy who's got a strong arm and a strong personality,
but is not strong in terms of accuracy. And they
changed personnel mid season on him, as you know, they
went away from Kelvin Benjamin and went to a smaller
group of wide receivers. Plus he didn't have Greg Olsen.

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It's like I thought Mike Shoulder was the offensive coordinator
when they when he won the m v P and
they had a dominant run game at about our offensive line.
Like now the sudden stinks that the truth has to
be somewhere in the middle. So I'm reasonable to think
that not all of these guys you know, can can
tell you the pythagram theorem. Like I'm reasonable to believe
that some guys are just in over their head. But

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when I see wholesale changes, two teams that underachieve or
things don't go along smoothly, um, and it's two coordinators,
it signals to me that the head coach is powerful.
That that's what happened in in Carolina as their head
coach got an extension. Well that's what's happened in Kansas

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City as Andy reads not go anywhere like look and
we be critical of Bob Sutton as he retires or
critical of Nagy before he leaves. But like Andy, Reid's
teams have always sucked in the playoffs, and and the
Chris Richard thing is just odd to me because he
seemed to be the one guy that could keep this
group together, as dysfunctional as they may have been. You

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loose Camp Chance or use Richard Sherman, plus he lose
Cliff April, and you lose all the guys. They've lost
the free agency over the past couple of years, and
somehow they kept it together and put themselves at least
in position with a disastrous offensive line, uh to be,
you know, one win away from being in the playoffs.
Like I actually think they might have done a better

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job coaching this year than they've done in previous years.
Like this is what happens. The offensive line is the disaster,
and so Darrel Buzzer gets fired. So it's kind of
fascinating time in the NFL where people are repainting doors,
people are changing curtain rods, people are are cleaning out wallpaper,

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and they're not getting into just gutting a house and
redoing it. We thought for sure the Seahawks would be
gutting it, and they seem to be doing a cosmetic
redo more than digging into the issues. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays
at three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. I saw this
article and uh, it kind of interesting what Mark Cuban

(08:07):
is saying. Mark Cuban said, quote, the only thing left
for LaVar Ball to do is put on a dress. Uh.
He wasn't as critical as LaVar Ball as many others
in the NBA though, if you read kind of if
you read all his comments, he was talking about LaVar
Ball and how he's being followed around by ESPN, and
he he actually liked him to Dennis Rodman. There's an

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old saying in the stock game that you go loud
and go a long. LaVar Ball just keep saying crazy
stuff to stay relevant. He's actually good for the n
B A in a perverse way because he gets the
casual fans attention. Is Dennis Rodman all over again. The
only thing left for LaVar Ball to do is put
on a dress. Um. Yeah, I guess the difference is

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that this is a big difference is Dennis Rodman was
a great player right when he started going acting crazy
and dyeing his hair. He was still the best rebounder
and one of the best defenders in the NBA, and
early on the NBA he was just an incredible energetic
defender and wasn't nearly the rebounder he became in terms

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of the numbers. Right, So there was at least a
substantive part of Dennis Rodman. Now you can sit sit
there and go like, okay, what about the Kardashians. I
would say the substantive part is Kim Kardashian's beautiful. That's it, right,

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I mean, that is it in a nutshell, And Kim
Kardashian would smartly, you know, date and Mary and they'd
all date and marry somebody who was at least partially
and then you know, then there's the Bruce Now, um,
what's Bruce Jenner's name? Now, um, Caitlyn Jenner. Like there
was that side story to it, right, the Kardashians also,

(09:56):
the late Robert Kardashian was the attorney for O. J. Simpson. Like,
there are other interesting elements to it which initially brought
your attention. And Seacrest is the executive producer, and Seacrest
is kind of like the he had to kind of
the Midas touch in those type of reality shows. None
of these things apply to LaVar, So yeah, he has

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he is a Carnival Barker that is getting our attention
and that's winning. I think the issue is is any
of this actually helping build his brand? And um is
an ESPN actually the one who's helping him build his brand?
Like if he simply does his thing and it's TMZ,
it becomes the TMZ story. That's not his target market.

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But interesting that that Cuban thinks it's actually good for
the NBA because it stirs up conversation for the average
sports fan, which brings attention to the NBA during the
regular season, which normally we don't pay all that much
attention to. I mean, like, look on, that's the old uh.
Any publicity is good publicity. I didn't know that old

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saying in the stock game, go loud and go long.
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The quickest way to win the NFL is to have
a good quarterback. That's how this starts. Unless there's a
drastic change made to change the rules of the sports.

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Beyond finding Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, the second best
path his newest trend. It's free agency. Now, look, this
is not a tried and true long term philosophy, but
generally what the article works through is the fact that
because the salary cap expanded slowly, because there are rules

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in the new CBA which allowed teams to carry over
money from previous years, and frankly because one of the
things that Cleveland Browns did last year to exploit the
new CBIA and salary cap step you can sign guys
on this year's money up until March, the end of
the calendar year for the NFL, meaning if you have space,

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you can go out and start spending in free inncy
or re upping your guys right before anybody else gets
a chance. The point is that six of the six
teams in the playoffs this year were six of the
ten biggest spenders in free agency. And because the salary
cap um, because of the rookie wage scale, because of

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the c b A that I mean, like, look, that's
less needs said. I can remember the days when it
was almost every year you had to let people go
because of money. Now I don't remember thinking, oh, we're
up against the books. If we keep this guy, what
does it keep us from doing? Hey, we've got to
do some things, just gotta get legal. It's there's I
think what has allowed you to make what's called strategic

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football decisions. The biggest change to the salary cap was
nearly fifty million dollar rise in five years. The second
biggest change was a clause in the two thousand eleven
c b A that allowed teams to roll over the
unused calf from year to year. So I think what's
interesting is that, Um, you look at the Green Bay

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Packers and the change that they've made. Ted Thompson was
not a big free agency guy. Now last year they
did go spend out and spending free agency, but they're
not one of the top ten spenders and they did
not make the playoffs. Is that Can you make a
correlation between the two. Maybe? Maybe, But the problem with
this argument and look, you got teams like the New

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England Patriots where top ten spender, but you also teams
like the Jacksonville Jaguars that went out and spent money
on free agency. You also have some teams that didn't
achieve greatness to Cleveland Browns, big spender and free agency,
how their season go. Um, So I think it's a
fascinating look but you know, Malik Jackson is a guy,

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Calais Campbell, a j. Booyer all there. They were all
sprinkled in as additives to what they were making in Jacksonville,
and it's pushed them over the top. I think my
my issue with these type of findings, and it's fascinating.
You know, Broncos the key to leave, Peyton Manning, DeMarcus Ware,
Emanuel Sanders all free agency free agents that they added

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when they won a Super Bowl. So some of this
has been around for a long time. Philadelphi Eagles were
big spenders, but they also spent on guys that they
had Lane Johnson, Fletcher Cox, zach ertz Um, but they
used the rest of their cast space to go out
and get an all Sean Jeffrey. So I think what

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I find with this is it's great. There are there
are many My dad uses to say, there there are
a bunch different ways of skin a cat. Now I
didn't know, did anybody actually skin of cat? Or is
that just a saying? I hope it's just saying. But
with the successes, there's also four failures. You know, there's
teams that went out and spend and it didn't work
for them. Um, none of these teams spent on a

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creation quarterback should be noted. So the idea that that
will work for you outside of when the Broncos win
got paid Manning and Um, there's a good deal of
other things that went a team's way to propel them.
You know, Tennessee doesn't make the playoffs if Houston doesn't
have mass injuries. Right, Like Tennessee, five of their wins

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were against division opponents. They swept the Texans, they swept
the Colts. Those are four of their wins. It stands
the reason that if Houston has J. J. Watt and
or Deshaun Watson, uh, they don't win both of those games, right.
You know, if Andrew Luck plays for in Annapolis Colts,
they don't win both. And those aren't We're not talking

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about a series of injuries where you know, like the
Chargers two years ago, every guy goes down in the
offensive line. I'm talking about one injury, right, Andrew Luck
shoulders healed, and they don't. They don't keep him on.
I are all season. If Deshaun Watson doesn't go down
with the torn a c L. If J. J. Watt
doesn't get hurt for the second time in two years,
none of this happens. So there are some other things

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outside of UM. There's no real control group to it,
but it is interesting the trend that is building and
the case that can be made to go out and
spend some money and you're gonna have to find one guy.
You're not gonna completely rebuild your line off on the
in free agent market. You're gonna have to do your
work through the draft, You're gonna have to have a quarterback.

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But the idea of not spending any I think that's
one of the reasons you're seeing front office changes being
made and guys that understand the cap being more valuable.
And I think it's definitely a friend that's working the
trend that's building in the in the NFL. Be sure
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(17:10):
I mean, Murphy Smitty is gonna win this thing, and
it's gonna be bugging you watching, like all you want
to do is watch the game. You really want to
do this, man, it hasn't happened yet. And by the way,
going back to your pop thing you're just talking about
there or soda? Where have you come from in the
great country here that we live in? Cents, my friend

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cents still back in the good old Greenville of Ohio,
Land that I come from. So Midwest, Midwest is pop.
I grew up in sun the California. It's coke every been.
Everything is coke, like, it doesn't matter. It's Dr Pepper,
You give me coke, give me Dr Pepper like and
then it's soda other places. So yeah, twenty five cents
in Greenland, Ohio, Greenville or green Sticks that they used

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to say, um, yeah, you know and listen we I've
done these raffles for so long now, We've raised so
much money for the life foundation of the work we do,
and I have yet to run into one of those fans,
and I'm a little nervous every now and then, but overall,
I'm gonna go with the odds here and say that
we're going to keep on the trend of a non

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annoying crazy type fan. But look, they're easy to get
involved with, and like I said, we raided a ton
of money with him, and this weekend is going to
be pretty decent game, and hopefully we'll be able to
do another one next week. How many times did you
in Patriot of the week. That's a great question, you know,
I don't think it ever happened. One Bill wouldn't give
me the satisfaction of having to put my picture up

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in that facility. We had a lot of fun and
I used to love poking the bear, So I think
he would have he would have voted that one down
had it even come up in a meeting. All right,
So when you read an article that says, hey, one
of the things that's really ticked Tom Brady off is
he had one play Patreon in the week in forever, um,

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what's what's As a guy who's lived and worked and
and succeeded in that ality, what's your reaction? Well, I mean,
it's funny right. I mean, you know, and every player
must be like this, but you have these goals when
you play the game of football. I want to go
to and win a Super Bowl. I want to you know,
go to the Pro Bowl or be All Pro. And

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then of course you want to be Player of the Week.
And the fact that he hasn't gotten it's got to
really piss him off. Okay, So so do you think
it's pissed him off to the level of like like
that there's a real uh uh fracture. I mean that
the Jimmy there's a story that he celebrated when Garoppolo
got traded that he went to that he went to
Robert Kraft and said, you know me, York Garoppolo, one

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of us gotta go. He wants to play ut at least.
Like what do you make of the supposed riff between
him and Bill Belichick? Well, I know one thing, it
didn't come from Player of the Week, and uh, I
would say this. I mean, look, and there's there's times
and I was there for eleven years, right, um sotill
on in place. I know of um in in terms

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of my time playing in the league. You know, I
was fortunate to be there the whole time. And when
you when you start off in a Belichick system, you know,
there's there's definitely a lot of what the heck if
I got myself into, and then you go through this
period of time where it's like, man, I I don't
know if I can do this, and then and then
there's a period of time where it's I don't want
to do this, and then there's the I hate them all,

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and then you get to the point where you're like, oh, yeah,
I've actually survived and we do win some football games.
So it's amazing the roller coaster of emotions you go
through as a player, and and you your butt heads
with the coaches. I mean, I didn't talk to my
offensive line coach for a year, but we still won
games and championships, and you know, it all worked out
pretty good. So there's just you know, there doesn't need

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to be a whole lot of komba yah within that
locker room. And I have no idea how ugly or
how good things are right now, but I know one thing.
They're not going out to dinner together. They're both kind
of working, you know, towards the same thing, and that's
winning this weekend and hopefully the next and the next
after that, three Tops Bull camping, Matt Light joining us
in the doug Otliser. It's funny because I, you know,
my experience is more playing college basketball, and in college basketball, like, look,

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everybody you know at some point hating your head coach,
and so people asking about him now they're like, yeah, yeah,
we hated we hated him. At the time we we
it was us against them, but it became a unifying
force in the locker room, like, hey, we might have
been united against the coaching staff, at least when you're united.
So I do I I understand a great deal of that. Um,
let me ask you about Brady Uh, Like, look, he's

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storing five picks the last five games, but outside of that,
he's probably the league's m v P. Some by default,
some because the defense hasn't been good, and he's carried
him some because he's been doing it, Uh without his
leading receiver from last year. What's your sense of the
legitimacy of Hey, man, I want to play to my
mid forties. Whereas Gizelle doesn't seem to be completely on

(21:48):
board with that idea. Yeah, you know that the better
half never are on the same page entirely, right. I
mean it's a oh, it's a life, lifelong struggle for
all of us. But you know, I think he has
the ability to do it for as long as he wants, right.
I mean, he's not going to be the guy that
goes until the wheels fall off. I know that much.
So when he starts the sense that you know what, man,

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I just can't move the way I did, or I
can't get prepared, or I can't you know, do something physically,
he's gonna quit the thing that I think sets him
apart though. I Mean people talk about the fact that,
you know, he doesn't get his sun burned because he
drinks so much water, and he's in such great shape,
and you know, he takes care of himself and all
this stuff. But mentally, I mean, the thing that I

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lost towards the end was I really don't want to
go out there and and fight the way I used to.
I mean, I played the game of football because I
didn't go to jail when I hit somebody. I mean
that that was my motivation, right, And I like to win,
and I love the one on one matchups. But towards
the end of my career, after eleven years running in
the walls. It was like, you know, I don't know
that I really want to go beat the time of

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people every day like I used to. He I don't
think that's that's left him, Not even an ounce of
that's left him. I mean, he wants to go out
there and he wants to win, and he wants to throw,
you know, for a lot of yardage, and he wants
to get creative and all the things that he does.
He still has that end of the drive physically. It
will be the only reason that he probably wouldn't be
able to take a field. Um. Look, they they struggled

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mightily without Grounk a couple of weeks ago, but they
were able uh to steal and look some of it
was what looked like a catch with Jesse James. But
they get the Steelers on their home field that both
teams survive this weekend. What is it about the matchup
with the Steelers that have allowed you guys to always
be successful against him? Well, I mean it's a lot
of things, and they've all been so different, and I

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think it back to the times when you know, defensively
they had you know, such a just weapons all across
the board. I mean, you know guys that maybe even
weren't even as heralded as others like the chemo on
Old Hoffins and the you know you you name it, right.
I mean, they had a lot of really talented players.
And there's other times where we go in there and
you know, we had a very talented group, and you know,

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they was just always a dog fight. It always came
down to who was going to outlast two. And I
think the biggest thing that I think of with the
Steelers is is that they have a very tough nose.
I mean, everybody knows that. Everybody knows they're a tough
football team. And and when you think of tough football
teams in the past, has always been the Baltimore's and
the Pittsburgh's and New England's and and that's what Bill pride's,
you know, our team on. So when you have two

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teams that pride themselves on being the tough guys and
not just talking about it, but going out and playing
that way, you're gonna get a good matchup. And I
think we we come out on top in most of
those situations because you know, there's just this tireless effort
to have everything situationally speaking, figured out right. I mean

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we go through all the little things. I'm not saying
they don't, but when you go back and you look
at these games, um, and not that they've all been close,
but throughout the game, I mean little adjustments, little things
that we've been able to do and key in on
in the big playmaking ability when we had to have it.
You know, that just put us on top. And most
of those situations, Matt like joining us son Doug gotlip

(25:03):
show three times, Super Bowl champ. Um. What I'm I'm
fascinated by, um, by whether or not your teams, like
you know, you're still at least on some level close
with certain groups of guys. Is there any level of
competitiveness to where you're You're sitting there going like, are
you kidding me? This team without Edelman, with that defense

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could win a championship to where you know, like they're
going to win a could win a Super Bowl. And
this may not be even one of the top five
best Patriots teams, Like you know, the the undefeated regular
season Patriots team like that was probably the best of
any of the teams. Right. That was his best season.
He lost in one game in the Super Bowl. Is
there any level of competitiveness with past teams as opposed

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to this year's team, considering the wins that this year's
team has gotten maybe in a down year. Well, I mean,
I think you look at it as a whole I
mean personally, no, I mean, I you know, I wish
these guys the best and everything that they do. UM,
And and look we did it. We did it with
a whole bunch of no names and a one arguably
you know three and four as well when you look
at the grand scheme of things, right, I mean we

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won with a lot of guys that nobody had heard of.
It definitely a no one right. So, UM, the thing
that I key in on for this year, and I
don't think I could get enough press, is the fact
that the National Football League UM has changed so much
and it's so glaring that this level of competition has

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has not risen to the challenge or the expectations of
all the fans. I mean, it's one thing that the
expectation level of the coaching staff, it's all another one
when it's so glaringly obvious to the fans that are
out there. And I think that's a real problem. I mean,
this past weekend was atrocious. I don't know what this
weekend is gonna bring, but you know, it's just not

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the same NFL when it comes to the competition as
it has been in years past. Okay, so help me
with it, like um hypothesized with me. Like, obviously, look
at the thing you can say is there's a ton
of star players that are out with injury, right, Like,
I mean some of the absolute freaks of the NFL,
from the J. J. Watt, the Odell Beckhams to the

(27:12):
the Andrew lux Um and the Julian Edelmans on our man,
we have a lot of guys are And so if
you stop, even if you stop there, right, think about
the c b A, which I fought hard for and
and and uh spend a lot of time on and
the fact that you know, we wanted to get this.
This thing that they say is player safety where we're
not gonna hit as much, We're not gonna do this

(27:33):
and it's gonna lessen the rate of of of injuries. Right,
Has that proven true? I mean, I just think that
when you remove a lot of the practice, preparation and
the things that you know all of us did who
were old school that walked uphill both ways in the snow, right.
I don't know that that really helped. And I think
that you know, that's part of it. I mean you

(27:54):
bring up that point of of the the number of
guys that are down out right now, but look at
the number of guys on the flip side of at
that are coming in. Right. Look at these guys come
out of college and the lack of impact or in
some cases impact that they're making. Is it the same?
I mean I don't. I don't think we're seeing the
same player come out of college either. Okay, so how

(28:14):
do you fix it? Well? Listen, I think number one
from a leadership position, right, I mean, um, part part
of what you're seeing is that is what you're not seeing.
I mean when I left and that in the locker room,
the feeling was so different than in my early years.

(28:35):
And I understand that comes with age and as you
get older and things of that nature, but it's it's
it's really permeated every aspect of the league. And that
is that these guys are going in and they're so
worried about their brand and building their Twitter sphere, whatever
it is that they're not getting together and doing things,

(28:56):
you know, as a team and and really playing together.
It's it's it's become this this army of of ones, right,
and that's that goes that flies in the face of
everything that is football. And I think it's tough, and
I I know it sounds silly, but to me, that's
part of the problem. I mean, these guys aren't doing
what they used to do, playing smash nose football and

(29:16):
then getting pushed to do it as hard and as
fast and as as well as they can because they
don't go out and practice the way they used to.
And the leadership isn't as as well either in a
lot of the cases, whether it's from the league offices
or elsewhere. And you're just you've seen it over time
and it's now playing out as as you see it.

(29:37):
It's crazy. It's crazy. There's a bunch of things to it.
I mean, like, look, I don't think it's harder for
I mean, I think the phones change things because guys
get in the locker room and they get on their phones.
They don't you know, you don't give it with with
with your guys as much. I think, honestly, in college
quarterbacks don't learn to be verbal leaders nearly as much.
Because a lot of these teams have the quarterbacks look
into the sideline to change the play. I think that
takes away from a quarterbacks kind of leadership um and

(30:00):
an effort to keep everybody healthy and fresh and not
hurting each other. The lack of practice, you don't have
the same cohesion. Obviously, the offensive line play has been
hurt dramatically from it. All those things have caused the
quality of play to which, yes, if if we can
see it and we don't have the discerning eye that
Matt light sees it, and if the alarm bells go off,
and I'll be interested to see if the NFL can

(30:21):
can flip it around. And the last thing I'll say
to it is this football is a violent sport. That's
why again I love the game of football. If you're
gonna take the violence side away from it, and how
you officiated and how you let these guys prepare and
how they play the game, you know, it's it's obviously
going to have an effect on the product that all

(30:41):
these people see. And it shows, right, yeah, it does show. Listen,
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(31:49):
Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot
com and within the I Heart Radio app. Couple interesting
things going on in the NBA. Um obviously the LaVar
Ball thing, which we talked about some really fascinating hear
our next guest opinion on that, UH and and Isaiah
Thomas now playing with the Calves and the Calves are
suddenly struggling. How long does it take to adjust UH

(32:11):
to a new player, especially one that requires the basketball
require that that is a score, that's a kind of
an alpha part of your starting line up. Let' let's
welcome in from We're all start in the NBA. Carlos
Boozer joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Radio, and let me start with the var
Ball Booze. Let mean what I have heard is up

(32:32):
until this past week, what LaVar Ball said did didn't
resonate with the Lakers in their lounge, in their locker
room at their practic facility. But when he started talking
about the players quitting on Luke Walton, and maybe it
was also Alonzo's response where he said, Hey, I can
play for anybody, not saying Luke's my guy. It didn't

(32:52):
sit well with some Laker players. You're a vet respective
one at that. What's your thoughts on what happened this
past week? What's your body? How you doing? I'm doing well, Um,
I find out who the situation three of biz are.
You know. I think I think LaVar Uh needs to
take a seat back and just let his son play

(33:14):
that that his son is acclamy, let him let his
son um just be a pro and be a Laker,
be a teammate, be you know, be a kid, and
enjoy the problem, enjoy the moment um. I think he's
taking too much of the forefront. He's very visible, very vocal.
I think he's always been that way. He has a
very um what's the word. He just has a very

(33:34):
huge presence. And you know, obviously some of that has
been good for their kids, but for his kids, and
he's doing any things is best for his children. But
I think if he was able to have a friend
just talked to him, I think he's making it extremely
difficult for Alonzo Ball and his other two kids to
just flourish on their own, and that's gonna end up

(33:54):
being a problem. So the whole situation with with with
with coach, with coach Luke, with coach Walton, It's gonna
is gonna take a too on the team too, because
it not only just his team, it's also the same.
It's also the wise and girlfriends, the management. I wanted
to Magic and Rob Tony could think about that as well.
So I would be interesting to see will play how
it plays out. All right, So if you're advising Polinka

(34:14):
and magic, magic cause you and says they boost to
my office, what would you do if you were me,
your magic Johnson? How do you handle it? Who am
I though? Is it? No? You're your magic? You're advising
Magic on how to handle LaVar? Yeah? I mean I
would just talk to him. If I'm Magic, I just

(34:34):
come up at have a conversation for Lavn and be like, look, man,
this is the Lakers. You know, we're like the Yankees
the NBA. But they had this, they had this, this
is they had it before they drafted him. They had
it a month and a half ago, and then they said,
I think it's time to have it again. I mean,
obviously a man is don't do what they wants to do.
But I would just talk to me, be like, looking,

(34:55):
you're making this a little bit more difficult on your son.
And if you want them to enjoy the spir want
him to enjoy being a team. We want him to enjoy,
you know, being a part of our organization. And you're
making you're making us all look a little not the
only want to look not necessarily bad, but yeah, like
you're making him look bad, and I would just have
a conversation with it may have to come from a
guy like Maggie Johnson. We respect because brus are joining

(35:18):
us in the Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Isaiah
Thomas joins the Calves and first game he came in,
he only plays seven teams to look great, but the
team hasn't played as well recently. How long do you
think it'll take for him to acclimate to the Cavs. Yeah,
it takes time, I mean any time. And I'm happy
to see Isaiah back. I'm moving for him and love
for that coud um, But it takes time for anybody

(35:40):
to to to get back in the rhythm where you're
consistently playing at the level that that just capable of.
You know, I think Isaiah's an extremely talented player um
with a shoe sip on his shoulder and after being
one of the only guys UM that had the kind
of year that he had not to get the bag
that he deserves this past summer, been on top of that,
getting dealt from a team that he basically put back

(36:00):
on the map UM after you know, those guys left
for Rayal and kJ and Paul Pierce. So UM, I personally,
on a person level on rooting prisay to to do
back and get flowing some when the playoffs come. He
can pick some butt. But it takes time. I mean,
you know, everybody is different. You know, maybe it takes
him a couple of weeks, maybe it takes some ten games,
maybe it takes some UM. But I think he's he's

(36:22):
he's down for the challenge. I think Lebron and the
rest of the guys obviously neat him there and want
him there. I want him to get in a good
hy them. They're gonna go through what their ups and downs.
You know, they're implementing him very strong personality, a great
player who demands the bone is gonna be you know,
off the wall, lout to school. But also I'm gonna
have the ball in his hands quite a bit as well. Um,
so it takes time for the rest of the guys

(36:42):
to adjust to Isaiah being back. But you know, once
he does and they get rolling and they get flowing,
watch out, man, do you think they're better than the
Warriors if both sides are healthy? I can't wait to
find out. I don't know, but I can't wait to
find out. I'll tell you that. Yeah. But I mean
just when you watch them, when you see the because
it it feels like they have a lot of pieces,

(37:03):
but you know, but do they But some of the
pieces are Dwyane Wade, you know, four or five years ago.
Dwyane Wade is not Dwyane Wade now. On the other hand,
he's playing a different role, so he's not going up
against the other team start. He's going to get to
thegether team's bench. Uh. I mean end of the day
when you see rosters and you know how teams come together.
And again, like stephre spain his ankle, so we don't know.

(37:23):
We're assuming steps healthy in June. But in terms of
makeup of roster, now, Calves Warriors, who do you like better?
I mean, it's it's tough to pick one side and
obviously they're leaning towards the words with their chemistry. Um.
But I'm saying just just from a fans perspective, just
sitting back, it would be great because both of these

(37:44):
teams are set to meet to meet each other. You know,
I think the roster on on the Calves is much
better as far as the bench is concerned. Now they're starting,
They're starting five, you know, the rows back. I think
I think their team is more set to compete with
the Warriors now, the team that they have having that
than ever before. Um. But at the same I just
I just I really want to see it happen. I

(38:04):
want to see what happened when the board goes up.
The d Rose thing is interesting. Obviously you played with
him during peak d Rose. Now he takes a bunch
of time away from the team and he comes back.
He did this for one day with the Knicks. Like,
what do you think is going Like, do you think
it's legitimate he's thought about walking away from the game. Yeah.
I think it's been tough on him, man. I mean
he went from being Rookie of the Year, UM, All

(38:25):
Star m v P. You know, one of the best
players on the planet and he's been hurting, you know,
four or five years in a row. I think psychologically
has played a big tone him. I was actually having
the same conversation with Ben Davis a couple of weeks
ago in l A because he went through something similar. Um,
you know where Baron Davis was and in his career
at the height of the game, one of the best
point guards to do planning and they have all those

(38:47):
injuries pile on top of you, so you couldn't play
the game. But what he wanted to anymore, I think,
and I don't get me wrong, like I know Rose
is hurt in his passion, he wants to be out there,
but he also wants to be his very best. And
you know, de Ros being the competitor that he is,
and and he works his ass off because he's a
tough kid, works, but he wants to be at his best.
So it's been very frustrating for him not to be

(39:09):
able to play the way he wants to play and
to be bowling these injuries because all he wants to
do is play the game. So I think psychologically has
been mess with him a little bit. But I also
know he's a tough kid, and uh, he'll He'll say
he'll cook it, took it through it, He'll figure it out.
Carlos Boozer joining us in the doug Otlives Show. Look,
the Rockets have h Chris Paul was hurt, now James
Harden is hurt, and yet they're still eleven um. But

(39:32):
like they have, Chris Paul's almost always been injured, so
we don't know what his feeling has been in playoffs,
but he hasn't gotten even but to a conference finals.
Going back to the Clippers, James Harden hasn't necessarily performed
at nearly the same level in the playoffs. He has
regular season. Mike D'Antoni, their head coach, his teams haven't
performed as well in the playoffs. They have regular season,

(39:55):
so they have all these markers of a team that's
gonna let us down the playoffs. On the other hand, like, dude,
you got Chris Paul and James Harden and do that
you'd a ton of three. He's got a New age basketball.
What's your level of buy into how legitimate threat they
are to the Warriors in the postseason. No, who's in
The Rockets are very good team, especially healthy when they
got both of those guys out there. Um, I think

(40:16):
D'Antoni is doing a great job of missing them up
when they're playing together, when they're playing by themselves with
the rest of the guys. But let's be honest, it's
all it's all good. They're they're they're a very good
basketball team. They're gonna win a ton of games this year.
They're gonna be one of the top two of the
season in the West, no question at all. The longer
than that matters, it's basically championship or us. I mean,

(40:37):
let's let's be honest. Can they beat the Warriors? And
can they not? So? Um, they could. They can end
up winning sixty something games and having a phenomenal season.
But we're all going to judge them based on how
they perform in the playoffs and how they match up
to you know, San Antonio. How didn't match up to
Golden State? Can they get to the championship. So that's
what it comes down to them. We're all we're all
gonna be here to see it because, um, Chris Paul

(40:59):
were of the best point guards of all time. You know,
James Harden and the best players, no question. Um, those
two have to get over the hump and that the
good thing about it is they had each other to
lean on. But what we'll have to see that if
the team is better than these other the other teams
that we have, the two championship teams out West are
obviously the Warriors and the Spurs, And for the Rockets

(41:20):
to be, you know, submitted as one of those teams
that can contend, they have to beat those two teams,
no question. And I'm glad you brought the Spurs. Obviously,
Kai has got the shoulder. It's interesting how they're just
kind of laying there in the cut, nobody talking about him,
and yet at the end though, yeah, they're always there
at the end. I don't know. I don't know how
it happens, but it always does happen. Booze, we gotta

(41:42):
have you. As the season rolls on, two time NBA
All Star Carlos Boozer joining us in the Doug Got Show. Boost,
great stuff, Thanks so much for joining us. Thanks for
having me, guys, all right, that's Carlos Boost joining us
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