June 1, 2018 • 44 mins
Doug thinks the refs ultimately got the controversial charge/block call correct, even if the process wasn't handled properly. He talks to 10 year NBA veteran Ryan Hollins about JR Smith not knowing what the score was at the end of the game. Plus Ethan Strauss joins the show to tell Doug if the Cavaliers can come back from that crushing loss in overtime.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up, America, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio, coming to you from the sunny, glorious
city of Angels where we, like you watch the NBA
Finals and thought, I could that be our teams? I
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couldn't that be our teams? I would love to say
there are other topics today, but there really aren't Game
one in the books. Um. I don't get them all right,
but I do do the self pat when I get
them right. I told you this thing that there's a
chance for a steal of a home game. Game one
was a perfect one. Warriors off just a ferocious seven
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game series, brutally physical, taxing game seven series, and I'm
not convinced the Warriors are nearly as good as uh
public's perception of the Warriors are, especially without Andre Guadala. All.
I love this and Lebron James being um in kind
of some moment of zen offensively having an offense to
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which you have perfect spacing around him. I gave them
the chick. I gave him a chance, absolute chance. The
ten point point differential at the end. I want to
know a lot of youth sweating, right that you're like, oh,
twelve and a half, this is in the bag. And
then you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, just one technical foul,
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that's good enough. Congrats to Ryan Music, who is the
only one who picked I said, I think he said
Calves by double digits. Oh, he said, well, obviously, Warriors
by double digit Excuse me. I thought would be a
close game, and we got a ridiculously close game. I
got a lot to get to, but let's start with
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technology and our use of technology. First thing is, no
matter how much Lebron James said, he read the play
better or as well as he's ever read the play.
Was his quote afterwards, Right, I read the play as
well as I've ever read the play. This is Lebron.
After the game, we were told that they were viewing
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if I had my feet outside the line. And when
I knew that, I was like, okay, that's gonna be
our ball. Um I knew I was outside in the
charge line. Um, So that's that's that's what the communication
was to us. And we were all over on the
sideline drawing up a play, um, you know, to try
to execute. Um trying to go up a couple of possessions.
No matter how much Lebron said, Hey, this is that.
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I read that that play defensively as well as any
play I've read. That's what the quote actually was. Um,
I think that people who are arguing most most people
Big Mike, who works with this runs the runs the studio,
He's like, oh, no, it was it was the charge.
I think most of us, especially when you watched in
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the slow mo, he got to be said before he
goes into his move. He was never said he turned
his body. I think most people, if you ask them,
they would go like, yeah, it kind of looked more
like a block. What you're bothered by is how can
you review a judgment call? Right? Do you know they
could review a judgment call? And technically technically you can't.
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Only you can't if you have to review whether or
not his feet were outside the line, which leads me
to believe that the officials one had a charge, one
or maybe two had a block, and after making the call,
they got together like, well, let's go, um, everybody do
the fingers together. Check the replay to see if his
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feet were outside the lines. Oh yeah, by the way,
while we're there, why don't we go in check on
whether or not it was actually a charge got it
got every good good So whether it was wink, wink,
nod not, whether it's just some eye contact or he
got three of and believe it or not, this is
the This is the hardest statement to make. These are
actually three the best officials in all of basketball. You're like,
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no way, like, yep, however you grade them, these are
actually as this is actually as good as it gets.
That's the best the NBA can do. And you can
sit there and tell me, no, they stink and they
made mistakes last night. They made mistakes. I don't think
they stink. They made mistakes. But it also proves how
bad most other officials are. Anybody who plays basketballs like, yeah,
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you're right, that's they're actually way worse. Otherwise, anyone played
overseas or you watched the Olympics, You're like, wow, they
are awful. This is actually the best officiating you're ever
going to get your like, no way, yep. I think
we're more bothered how they got to it than whether
or not the call was right. It's a hard call, right,
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I'm not denying that. Kevin Durant wasn't selfish not denying
that Kevin Durant didn't play poorly. It was a simple
drop off past Draymond Green, who might have dunked, probably
laid the ball in. Maybe Lebron deflects the past, but
the likehood is if he simply jump stops and lays
the ball off, it's dunk, it's a layup, and we
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play on. It's the process by which they got to it,
which the officials weren't totally honest with how they corrected
the call. I know that you think that you can't
have this, you can't change judgment calls. But the fact
is you watched football, which doesn't allow this type, this
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type of overturn, and thought they should. That You watched
for whether or not a catch was made or not made,
and said, hey, why can't they go back and say
that's past interference. You ever watched a play like that,
I've I have where they miss a call and then
but by rule they can't go back and change it,
and you think it's infuriating. What's the point of having
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replay unless the only reason every play is to get
it right, correct right, And this is one of the
problems with getting it right here. Here's the best equation
I can make. Does your car have a parking sensor?
Beep beepee? Do you can have a parking sensor? Have
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a parking sensor? Sometimes it's way way too sensitive, Like
I got it, I'm just parking the car. That's what
this is. Sometimes it's a little bit too much. But
you know what, the parking sensor stops you from doing
bumping into another car. Does your car have a seatbelt sensor? Oh,
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that's seatbelt thing. I hate that seatbelt thing. You know what,
you won't do? You won't drive without your seatbelt. Technology
is amazing. I think it's amazing. I have a button
in my car. I'm gonna hate to break here that
can parallel park my car. For me, I gotta stop
at the right spot and I can parallel park my car.
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That's crazy, crazy, right, Isn't that? The most nerve wracking
part about taking a driving driving test is like I
gotta do the parallel parking? Who do? Who likes parallel
parking now? I, particularly because I lived in work New
York City. I'm actually a great parallel parker. But the
idea of having no adjecta, no anxiety over parallel parking like, nope,
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there's literally no way that my car will crash into
another car. Was parallel parking because I got this one button.
I'd like crazy, but I gotta stop it just so
I gotta make sure that it says I can parallel park.
I gotta press the button and then I gotta take
my hands off. So you've been screaming for technology. You
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discussed we need artificial intelligence. Here, that's what you got.
You got technology. You've got the call right, and they're not.
The NBA is completely honest and forthcoming about why they
went to review the call. Anybody who's ever played basketball
knows that sometimes the ball goes out of bounds off
of you, but you got fouled, so you get the ball.
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Why I got even it up? The same thing is
true here. My guess is that they had a disagreement
on the call. One guy had charge, one or maybe
two had a block. You know, we'll do let's go
and check to see if his feet are outside the
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semi circle. Because the officials know all of the rules,
that's why they made it to the NBA Finals, and
they know that the only way to overturn this call
to make sure they get it right is to review it,
and after reviewing it, it actually goes to the league office,
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to which they said, like there's a block. And for
people who say, oh, well, you know, Steve Javy, he
had it as a charge. Like, dude, Steve Javy, all
he's trying to do is not sell out the guys
on the floor. He thought they had a charge. A
charge has never been overturned in the history of basketball,
which you saw last night is the first time in
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playoff basketball n c A tournament. I know there's a
bunch of Baylor fans who love that, I zing Duke
because a couple of years ago, five six years ago,
they they they beat Baylor on a super controversial should
have been a charge, was called a block call or
two three. But the point is we have never said
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has never happened before. Here's Tyler, you know, for our
team to come out and you know, play their hearts
out and compete the way we did. Man, I mean
just I mean, it's it's bad and it's never been
done before where you know, he's outside and restricted and
then you go there and overturn the call and saying
some block. It's never been done ever in the history
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of the game. Ever, and then tonight in the finals
on the biggest stage, team play that play well and
play their ass off man, and just here's the here's
here's the problem. Okay, I thought Tyler did a magnificent
coaching job. I think everything he said is correct. They
outplayed the Warriors. They deserve to win the game. Was
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it a charge or was it a block that was
never asked of him? Was the charge? It was the block?
And he well, is this and that it would never
be done. I'm not disputing any of that. But just
because it hadn't been done did not mean they didn't
ultimately get the call right And oh yeah, by the way,
while we're sitting here making all kinds of funny memes
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about j R. Smith not knowing the score and then
lying about it afterwards, George Hill is a free throw shooter.
He made the first, he choked the second. He makes
that free throw. There up one went with four seconds
to go. But Tyler saying, we we played our heart
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till you did. We competed, you did. We deserved to
win you did. We did this, and we did that,
and we held that and we were you did. Nobody's
arguing that was the charge was of the block all honesty,
but they didn't call it a charge. It's never been
overturned before. Was it a charge or was it a block?
Was block's block? Here's KDS thoughts, Well, I could have
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bucked j r. R. I gotta do a better job.
So I'm glad we we was able to get to
win with that happening. But the block charge thing, um,
I knew once it was thirty thirty seconds ago that
they can review that situation. I knew that. I knew
he was late on the drive and I know I
had my man beat and he came over a little lake.
So when they called the charge, I was surprised, But
I'm glad they reviewed it. You know what the other
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part is, you'll you'll never hear anybody back up, and
you're never like, hey, we got one. I got away
with one there. He did kind of like I didn't.
I didn't do a good enough job box out. No,
you didn't box out at all. He didn't do a
good enough job. That's that. Lett me translate. You did
a terrible job. J R. Smith, who's not a rebounder,
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got an offensive rebound in the biggest situation in the
game and you're seven with long arms with inside position.
Other than that, you totally nailed the rebounding thing. Be
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Show weekdays at three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Let's
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welcome in Ryan Hollins, who played for a decade in
the NBA. You see him on our network. You see
him on ESPN as well covering the NBA. Ryan, what's
let's let's start with the block charge? Was that absolutely
the deciding play in the game. No, No, that wasn't
cleve and getting robbed two plays prior against the stat
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Golden State team was the decider in the game. And
interesting enough is that Kenny was on that baseline and
he knew was a block, but he tried to give
Doug and you know this, We've had it happened all
the time since youth basketball. A makeup call, you give
a makeup call back on the other way. And when
he attempted to do the makeup call, they overruled it
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because he knew how he knew, he knew he had
the angle. If we gotta understand, there's three referees. Every
referee has a different angle, Every referee has a different story. Okay,
so he tried to help clean the game up Kenny
on that baseline, and he couldn't do it, and then
the rule came in place, and that's why everybody's upset.
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And it shouldn't even have been revealable. Wait what what
play are you talking about? A couple of plays before
there is a blatant foul, A play before and then
Kevin durn goes that abounds beside Sutton Canduran bound. Kay,
so hey, you're Cleveland, that's given every every little mustard up.
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I hope you got all right to be able to
beat Golden State. You know, listen, offense is a struggle
and they could not bounce back from that, and they
worked the ball around his month. You couldn't have had
a better possession and then they arrived. What's the matter
with d Listen when I say this, Cleveland now actually
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has a guy available to guard Kevin Durant, a guy available.
Can Lebron James card guard Kevin Durant, Yes, clearly, but
he's got the role on his fleet. You gotta score
fifty one points and he would have had a triple
double if they if these guys could have made an
open three point shot, okay, or if he wasn't fould
every time that he passed the ball out that wasn't
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called Jeff Grain. Former teammates him. Durant has a size
and athleticism and obviously it feels just like practice. He's
a guy who can actually guard Kevin Durant, and when
you put him in a screening situation, he Lebron switched
several times that game. But yeah, Katie's probably a little tired.
I'm sure everybody's tired at this point. But they actually
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have a matchup to stay front of him. You bringing
former teammate to mind. Man, he's I mean, that's he's
just the heck of a defender. No, not just that,
but the other part is it Lebron guarding Draymond gives
him the opportunity with the exception when he screens for
Kevin Durant to catch a break, you know, to catch
his breath defensively so that offensively he can show his superpowers.
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You know, they're they're playing kind of three on five
on offense, and they smartly put Lebron James you know,
Lebron James and Draymond who I know he hit two
last night, one and overtime, but for the most part
doesn't want to look at the basket. The Draymond Green
has been passing up more shots than his rookie year,
and his rookie year he passed them up because he
couldn't shoot. I'm not sure what's going on with Dreamline,
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but he hasn't even been looking at the rim. And yeah,
one of my keys to the game, my two keys
to the game, which is disappointing for Cleveland was pace
and physicality. They beat them up off the offensive boards.
And when I say pace, playing in Cleveland's face, not
Golden States. And you have a Lebron that's able to rest.
That's that's a key to the game. That is a
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that is a blessing. That's something that he couldn't do
the last time. It's a great point. Ryan Hollands joining
us on the Doug Otlips Show on Fox Sports Radio,
what do you think on the I mean, look, j R.
Smith he can say afterwards he thought it was tied,
but I mean we all read his lips. He didn't
know the score. He thought they he thought they had
to lead, right. So just as basic as this, the
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team Cleveland got cheated yesterday. Those guys are upset and
they essentially they're sticking together. They're they're banding together. They mean,
I'm not gonna knowledge now. Internally, he's getting slapped in
the back of the head a couple of times, okay,
and he's kicking himself harder than anybody else as j R.
Smith is that type of guy. What the the Jr?
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That you see and you think you know who he
is on the court man, he's one of the most
humbled down to earth guys I've I've ever known, I've
ever been around. Okay, but he's kicking himself in the
back of the head. But I applaud Cleveland because those
guys are having his back and sticking together, and they've
made a choice not to acknowledge what happened. That's not
important in Lebron, let me give this to you, Doug.
You want the psyche of the game. Lebron pulled this
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when they were down three one. He actually responded to Draymond,
got in Draymond's face, I want to say, almost pushed him.
And Draymond gets to tech down three one, game, series play,
game changing play last night, and every time I've compete
against Lebron and we've said things to him, we've hit him. Well,
I didn't say things, so we hit him, done everything
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to try to knock him on the game, and it
didn't work at the end of the game. One of
those in the first in the first excuse me in
in game one and Lebron doesn't respond. And at the
end of the game, Lebron started that whole scuffle. That
was Lebron doing that, and he knew that he needed
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to overshadow what had happened. He knew he had to
overshadow Jr's mistake. I say, guys, well let's fight, let's
come together, And that's what you saw Ron James do.
There was no accident. That is probably one of the
most intelligent moves you ever saw it because he knows
he needs Jr. And j R. Loves to fight, and
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everybody's gonna have Lebron's back. So how likely are we
to have a series? You're very likely. You're very likely
because Golden State only did what they were supposed to do,
going going right. Then Golden State did what they were
supposed to do and yesterday Lebron rallies troops again, and
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there's a lot of holes in that Golden State teams.
I don't know if Clay Thompson plays the next game.
Don't be surprised if he shows up on that injury report,
all right, not able to play. I haven't have I
don't know how he got back in that game. Okay,
so Eagle Donalda, I doubt he comes back firing on
all cylinders. A lot of holes. They were able to
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execute their game plans. And if a couple of guys
on the league not that a handful of list, we
got a series. Brother. I completely agree with you. Know,
I've I've heard people and it's it's almost it hurts
my brain sometimes it's like, well, look at all these
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things that that had to happen, and and Golden State
still beat them. I was like, dude, Golden State shot
fifty one thirty six and miss one free throw, the
entire game played at home, had to run at the
start of the third quarter, and still needed a crazy
sequence of events in the fourth cool just to you know,
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just to beat um, just to beat the Cleveland Cavaliers
in Game one. I'm with you. I thought it was
a series before the series, and I think it's a
series now. You've gotta be physical with him, and I
think the space around them. They last year they had
a bunch of dudes they can throw out Lebron James
to guard him. Now the best guy they have to
guard him is Kevin Durant, and clearly he's struggling with it.
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It wears him down offensively. And without Iguadala, they have
no spacing, they don't have a guy to keep on Lebron.
They're all screwed up right now. They're not to mention
Kevin Durant had to start on Lebron, and now Katie's
worrying about defense and scoring. And nobody wants to give
up a bucket. You know what I'm saying, You give
up a bucket morale boost a morale loss on the
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other side, And you know, Lebron is not the guy
you kind of talk mess to. When he can, when
he can put you in the rim, It's it's gonna
be it's gonna be fascinating to see Doug Gotlip Show
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Let's welcome to Ethan Strouss, who joins us from the Athletics. Ethan,
I know you haven't been listening. You've got a bunch
of other stuff you're doing. Do an outstanding job covering
the NBA. Um My thoughts, Let's start with the call.
My thoughts in the call was like, look, I actually
think they got it right, and I think the reason,
the true reason they reviewed it is one official had
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it as a charge and he made a big show
of it. The other guys are like, I had a
block on that one, and this is just a way
to get to catch a breath and to and to
to to let you know New York in on making
the final call on such a call. Is that is
that a reasonable way of looking at Yeah, And I
think you're you're wearing on the money with that, and
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you're probably showing your plane experience and something that one
out that there is some old school rapping that. Then
they retroactively say it's according to rule section A slash
B that you know it has something to do with
the restricted area. No, they just thought maybe they botched
that one, they had an excuse to go and look
at it and then they could retroactively correct it. And look,
I'm against free play review in general. I think it's
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it's bad. It's perfect is the enemy of good, right uh.
And people want to get the call right, but in
doing that, they're screwing up the flow of the game.
And then there's this controversy over is it enough to overturn?
And I like the nineties, man, I like the nineties.
Back in the day, there are some botched calls and
we all lived with it and we learned how to
deal with it. Um. And I don't think that this
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is the best way to go about it. But under
the rules as they are written, um, and as we
have them, then I don't see what the big controversy is. Right,
it's it was a botched call, it was a block,
and so it eventually got called the block. Then then
let's get to the miss free throw four seconds remaining,
four seconds remaining in the game. Um. You know, like
two guys who escaped criticism, George Hill, who is a
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very good free throw shooter, And there's the is a
difference beem missing a free throw, Hey, you miss one
around and out hits the back rim. You know, it
looks like right to leave it that short after making
your first one, that's a that's pressure, that's that's a
choke job. And then Katie doesn't box out. Now Katie said, like,
I need to do a better job of rebounding or
try and box out at all. Um. But uh Jr.
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Trying to convince the world that he thought of the time.
There's not a liberator in America who thinks he said,
I thought it was tied. Well, that's it's it's a
situation where the more interesting mistake, the more inexcusable mistake,
then gets conflated with the uh, the more damaging mistake.
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But when you look at it, what's more damaging. What's
more damaging is George Hill, who could win the game
right there. You could win the game of the free
throw missing the free throw. J R. Smith is a
terrible shooter within the paint, He's not good. If he
had known the actual score, then he's coming back up
with it. And Kevin duran as seventh fall is either
going to block, everybody's gonna miss. So, yeah, it was inexcusable.
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It was basketball negligence, and so we're all going to
make him the goat and mock him rightfully so, but
it didn't actually matter. I would contend it didn't actually
shift the probabilities that much of the game. And yeah,
you could say Lebron was open, but let me tell
you if if J R. Smith knew the score of
the game, uh, you wouldn't have even gotten out there
and seeing Lebron. He only saw Lebron because he ran
away from the paint because he thought that that you
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thought the game was you thought that the cons are winning. Yeah,
he clearly clearly did. Um. Okay, let's get to the
actual gameplay. I thought. I thought the game plan was
a masterpiece from Tyler. Right, be super super physical with
the three scores, and then whoever's guarding the fifth guy
for the Warriors, you're in help. And then put Lebron
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James and Draymond Green and dare him to shoot the basketball.
You're in help. It allowed Lebron to catch his breath
defensively and allowed and really, you know, ran Golden State
off the three point line. I thought the game plan
was really good. I guess the question becomes is that
replicable going forward in the series? It was? It was
a really good game plan. I'm sorry that my infant
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son is taking any weird noises in the background. It's
actually it's actually amazing. What's his name? His name is Asher,
and how old's as? Asher is seven weeks old, so
I'm between this, oh, nine weeks My wife just corrected me, Well,
now I'm in trouble. Uh he's nine weeks old. So
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between the the NBA vitals and this, I'm not getting
a lot of sleep. But it's all it's Honestly, it's
pretty sweet because then you're like, no, I'll do the
late night feedings, no problem, you go to bed, mean
while you're watching the gate exactly exactly well on the
game plan. Uh yeah, I think that it's replicable in
some ways. I gotta say the Cats played really well.
Their shock quality, those fancy metrics we have for how
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how the quality of shots versus did you make them?
They quality shots. They're offense did really well and I
sometimes wonder if they're a little underrated. I think maybe
in order to burnish Lebron's legacy, we're exaggerating the extent
to which this team is bad. It's a lot like
the old Calves team that we've seen in this matchup.
Instead of having a Kyrie Irving an offensive guy, you've
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got a defensive guy in George Hill. And yeah, I'd
rather have the Kyrie Irving iteration, but it's not altogether
that much different. Uh So I thought it was a
good game plan. It's a solid team. It's a team
that gives the Warrior's problems because they beat him up.
And also on the other side, I think the Warriors
don't know quite what to do on pick and roll
action with Lebron. They love switching everything, but you can't
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really switch everything against Lebron on the way you can
against the Chris paul Or or a James Harden. It's
just too much for Steph Curry to deal with. And
so that aspect is also replicable where I'm not sure
how the Warriors are going to solve that particular issue.
I think it's I think it's fast thing. I thought
it was going to be a close series. I still
thought the Warriors would win. Um, what do you think,
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you know? Becoming what did you think? I thought everybody
was talking five games and my suspicion was more towards
six games. I mean, I try not to do you
know what, I try not to do predictions. I try
to be like Brian Windhorse, because here's the thing, we writers,
We have such little esteem in the eyes of the fan.
Why give them something tangible to bash us with? Right,
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Why give them just a tangible You predicted this and
it was actually that to hit us over the head with.
So I normally try to evade it. But my sense
of things was more in line with you, in part
because I know people will hammer home before All Stars
four All Stars were All Stars. But Andre Goodala is
a really good and he's be very important to the team.
And this is a team that, yes has an embarrassment
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of riches as far as talent goes, but the whole
is not greater than the sum of its parts. It's
never really cohered in the way maybe people thought it would.
So not having Igodala there does make a difference, especially
since he's their best defensive guy on that Lebron James Fellow,
who is quite important in this whole series. I think
the other part is how does how does Cleveland bounce
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back from this? Right? Like I'm I'm reading, this is
a pretty good two little tweets here, and essentially says
what I've been saying the entire show. Ethan Strauss is
our guest from the Athletic does a great job, and
he's also bouncing his young baby Asher on his knee. Uh,
you know, put post post feeding. It's doug out the
show Fox Sports Radio. So Roussilo says, I think when
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he said, uh, I think the horrible things that people
are pointing out, the calls, the only reason the Calves lost.
Make a free throw. Try not to forget the score
when playing in the game. Bill Simmons adds on, don't
give up an easy three point play the staff up
to in the last thirty seconds, make the go ahead
free throw, remember the score, and don't completely cave in
in overtime. So I guess the question is, if you
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feel like you had one and then you gave it away,
how do you bounce back from it? Um Man, maybe
you could better answer that one, because you've seen remember
that Clipper Spurs series where the Clippers had just these
devastating losses in that series, and uh, they had that
DeAndre Jordan's gaff right there was almost similar to the
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j R. Smith gaff where Chris Paul screaming at him
but they did come back and they won that series
because maybe you're inspired by that frustration, um and that pain,
and you still have a chance to correct things. So
we've seen, we've seen such things happen. Now, what I
would be a little bit worried about from a Cleveland
Keller's perspective is that I think that the Warriors are
seen enough evidence that Mike causing to go away from
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some of the line ups that don't work and start
using the line up that do work. They got an
object lesson in you know what works, uh, the overtime
with Sean Livingston and de Andre Goddala role. You know
it doesn't work Kavon Looney in that role in the
fourth quarter. I think that's gonna be a lot tougher
for the Cavs to deal with going forward. And they
got their shot against softer line ups last night. I
attend to great, What's what's going on with k D Man.
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That's a great question, now, isn't it. He has these
games where it's just p lexing I in the Game
six against the Rockets of the Warriors. One. Yeah, the
Warriors eventually ran away with that one, but I ended
up writing just on did but fuggling first half ward,
he wasn't playing defense and where you might have attributed
five three pointers from the Rockets, just fully on Kevin
Durant not matching up with guys and not getting back
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in transition and and just doing the basics of the job.
And it is completely confounding. And you know, I'm glad
he admitted to it on the on the rebound, but
that that's happening in general where he's getting pushed around rebounds.
I know he's that during the Rockets series that that
p Ja Tuckerton's to elbow him in the back, and
that's that's part of it. But you would just expect
better as far as doing the things you almost take
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for granted. He's not doing the things that you take
for granted. The Superstar uh it does. And I thought
that he did a very good job last Finals when
he was guarding Lebron, But I don't think he did
a good job in defense last night. Some of that
might be the pick and roll coverage that they're sussing
out and let's not switch everything and they have to
figure out the communication. But I don't have a good
theory for you on why he's not doing what he
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should be doing, but he's not doing it. Yeah. My
my theory is, look, they're being people are being allowed
to be really physical with him. I also think, um,
I think you know, Ryan Hollands joined us earlier and
I said this, Uh, look, they got some better matchups
this year. Last year, Lebron had to guard him because
of their personnel. This year, you can put Jeff Green
on him. You can put Nance on him a little bit,
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you know, you can put you can put Tristan on him. Um,
and and then Lebron king Garden as well, so you
have it's a lot like what the Calves had last year,
which was a lot more guys that could guard Lebron.
They have they have a lot more guys that can
guard him and our physical and Jeff Green obviously knows
this game. Yeah, this is one like this is this
is good. But you actually noticed and you know the
game and you're not just going by reputation. It's funny
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you would think, oh, you wouldn't want Lebron to Garden.
He completely torched Lebron last year in the finals. You
look at his highlight reel, it's coming at the expensive
Lebron and it's not an indictment of Lebron. It's just
Lebron cannot do everything on offense, will also playing defense
at this at this particular age. So I almost uder
if to get to get Katie going, if they don't
want to run more pick and roll and try to
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get Lebron switched on to him. I know that might
sound crazy, uh to the casual fan, that you would
want Lebron guarding you, but I think there could be
a benefit to getting Grant going and also tiring out Lebron. Yeah, completely,
and then yeah, and then I think, you know, and
then I think off I think that will help them
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on on defense as well. And I think they're they're
gonna have to start double teaming Lebron at different points
in time in order to get the ball out of
his hands, make somebody else make a play, not just
you know, not just make a shot. He obviously will
will pass into a shooter, but but they gotta they
gotta occasionally blitz him and get the ball ahead. They
got to vary some of their coverage because it becomes
all too predictable. I I completely agree they need need
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to vary it, but they also need to know what
they're doing when they vary it. Um, that's that's more
or less the key, the key for them because they
were not on the same page last night. In a
lot of possessions. I entered the series. I enter the
series thinking, you know, I heard Mike Wilbon m with
Dan Patrick and he said, hey, you know, unless you
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know something crazy happens, there is no real takeaway if
they lose this series. Because they he expects it to
lose the series. I have a completely different level of
respect for Lebron and kind of the zen by which
he's playing the development of his offensive game. His jump
shot the first three chords last night was great. I
think there's a ton to take away from this win
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or lose based upon how he plays and how his
game has evolved. Last night was a was the type
of performance I haven't seen since Jordan's What are your
thoughts on how we can change how we view Lebron
based upon how he's played, not just the fact that
he might lose to a superior team. I think there's
something to that and also might just speak to the
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era that we're in where we we have more of
a sense now that you can play really well and
lose that you can win the Cion without winning a
bunch of games in baseball just based on your d
r A. So there's a lot to be gained from
actually coming out and performing, and we're not just going
to hang it around your neck that you lost the theories.
So reputationally, Lebron could find himself in a situation where
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he might win finals MVP even if he loses the
series that nearly happened when it could all have one
finals MVP, and I think that would, uh, that would
be pretty good for him in the in the grand
scheme of things, And he's kind of in a good position.
It's not a good position for winning the series, because
in a good position where it's all upside, where uh,
you will be credited for exceeding expectations and not blamed
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if the calves are down in flats. Okay, a couple
of things I need to get to. Um, how happy
is Javelle McGhee that j R. Smith pulled the Javelle
McGhee because otherwise replaying Javelle McGee's miss dunk over and
over and over again. Oh man, it was just it's
so funny with those two guys that would happen was
almost a satire of who they are and with JaVale
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it was going so well. That was the other a
thing I was saying. I was watching in the media
area behind the court, um, and I was I just
kept saying to the guy next to me, Uh, this
has found money. Steve's got a pull them. Steve's got
a pull him. He's got to pull them. And I
didn't expect it. Hey, I think it might have been
plus eight on the game, or you might have had
a pretty good run in there despite that humiliating dunk
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that me was was that was that fatigue? Possibly that
could have been fatigue in away or just I just
think he got lost to I just think he got
lost as to where he was in the court. I
mean I think I think it happens. I just think that,
you know, it just happened to happen to to Javel McGhee. Um,
do you have any idea what's going on with Kevin
Love's hair? Because that is can can we have formed
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some sort of investigation? What is that is that? Hey? Man?
For all I know, that's cool? I mean, was that
a crossmade? What do we what do we call that?
It might be cool. For all I know, I'm a
to add now I don't know what's cool, so I
don't want to hate on it. Yeah, I felt it
felt like either a Floby or like, yes, maybe went
flow By. Maybe he just like, hey, I was bored
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in the hotel room. He's he's watched everything he could
possibly watch on Netflix and Amazon Prime and Hulu, and
so he just started just kind of going to work
on his own hair, and he's like, damn, I have
no idea how to fade it. So I'm not even
gonna try. I'm just shocked about the Flowby reference. I
I might my dad bought a Flowby back in the day.
I had a few Floby haircuts, and you know what,
that might even be an insult of the Flowby. You
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might get sued by the makers of flow By because
of the haircut that Kevin Love has. So uh yeah,
you know, shout out flow By. UM. I hope they're
still going strong. And as far as what Kevin loves
doing with his hair, I guess just keeping it interesting. Okay,
So you started the series UM without really a prediction.
What do you think now? I still I still don't
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necessarily have a prediction because I'm trying to be coy
and I'm trying to be cool like that. Um, But
as far as what I think now, I think the
Warriors dodged the bullet. I think they're very happy to
have won a lucky one. Sometimes it's better to be
lucky than good great, and I think, hey, beyond just
winning a game, it's I think it was good for
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the Warriors in the sense that they when I talked
to them after the game, the coaches were actually oddly happy.
Usually they're they're mad when they messed around. They they
they squander opportunities, but they had a sense of the
first games of feel out game, we didn't have our
coverages right. So I think it's ultimately better for the
Warriors beyond just winning the game. At the same time,
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I might have a little bit more respect for Lebron
the cast chances than this the most people as you do.
So I'm hedging like crazy, I'm giving you a very
unsatisfying answer, and I apologize for that. No, I'm you're
you're leaving it up to Hey, there's a lot of
bast like we all think that every basketball game is
going to be the same, and we all completely forget
that even last year there were some very very close games,
even at the final, even at the final score was
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four games to one. Within the context of the series,
it wasn't necessarily wasn't every they win every game by
twenty points. We see in sports where we conflate probability
with inevitability. I don't know why, but we just skip ahead.
If somebody has an eight percent chance of doing something,
we act as though twenty is impossible. And I'm just
not of that mentality really, you know, I think that
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the calves are a laun shot, but a laun shot
doesn't mean that's a foregnclusion. And I think if you
look at the ratings for this one, America agrees. America
is into the series even a lot beas sports writers
boo boo it great stuff. Ethan Strouss, get back to
caring for young Asher. Congratulations to your wife. She did
all work for the last eleven twelve months. Now since
it's nine weeks and you you butchered that thing. Thanks
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for joining us. She's the same. Thanks for having me.
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seventies six years. Internal probe this from Ajoran Award Znowski.
The internal pube into an anonymous Twitter accounts has become
increasingly focused on the wife of president of basketball operations
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Brian Colangelo. Franchise ownership is seriously considering Colangelo's dismissal, League
sources told ESPN prob hasn't been complete in the final
decision is yet to be rendered, but the fallout from
the report by The Ringer that connected Twitter accounts unleashing
privileged information and provocative attacks and surrounding the Sixers left
ownership flushed with embarrassment and anger and Colangelo fighting first
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professional life. League sources set, Yeah, it doesn't matter a
couple of things to this. Okay, I think I think
this is really good journalism, but I also think it's
really bad journalism. At the same time, they posed a
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question without really an answer, and the the likely answer
they came up with was these must belong to Brian Colangelo,
and it turns out it belonged to his wife. I
wouldn't say, you know, look, if they're circling around and
that's increasingly focus, like we're all it's his wife. Now,
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I guess you could ask the question, wait, was he
tweeting from her phone? But why would he? Why would he? Um? So,
the first thing is I do think you probably have
to fire him, if nothing else for optics, it looks
really bad. This is a lot like one of the
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issues that the Lakers are running into with a Lonzo Ball,
Like I don't believe a Lonzo Ball is running home
and telling his dad, Hey, Gunner Peterson doesn't know what
he's doing. Hey, Luke Walton lost control of us as
a team. Hey this, Hey that. But because a Lonzo
Ball won't speak up and say, uh, LaVar Ball doesn't
(40:47):
speak for me, I'm not giving him information the team.
It's it causes people to wonder, Hey, is LaVar getting
this stuff from Alonzo or is he just making it
up on his own? Which is the same thing with
Brian Colangelo's wife. Is she making this up on her
own or is she getting information from her husband and
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then she's tweeting it out. My guess would be that
she's These are all secondhand conversations that they she has
had at home or listen in on, or been a
part of and just sat there and she wants to
she wants to defend Like, look, my wife gets into
this where she wants to defend me. It happens, it does.
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It's not just a woman thing, it's a spouse thing,
where you want to defend your significant other, especially from
people who have no idea what they're talking about, like
the Twitter spear. And if you you don't think he
could cause you to get fired? Do you guys remember
when Glenn Rice was a member of the l A
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Lakers promis you're from l A. I remember you remember
why he wasn't part of the second and third team, Um, um,
the third teams of the three peat Shack and Kobe team.
I don't remember exactly why. I no tell you. I
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went I checked this out. Um. Glenn Rice's wife Christie
at the time, Christina Fernandez Rice ripped into Phil Jackson.
That's really what happened. Now, was there probably some discord? Sure? Uh?
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The discord between Rice and Jackson went national in June.
This is June of what yours is two thousand and one.
So anyway, Rice's wife said that that Phil Jackson, Uh,
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that Phil Jackson wasn't treating him fairly. Uh, she wasn't
using in the right way that he couldn't wait to
get out of there anyway. They got rid of him,
and Glenn Rice was like the perfect guy for what
they had. They needed a shooter, a guy who got
multiple positions, a veteran who made shots and could play
off of Kobe, could play off of Shack. He was great.
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He didn't like burn being the third wheel, and he
told his wife, and his wife told the media, and
that ultimately was his undoing. He averaged sixteen points a
game with the Lakers that season. Not keep in mind,
three years earlier, he had averaged game with the Charlotte Hornets.
He was the best player on a bad team. You
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make him as the third best player on a great team,
and there's there's the there's the statistical difference, and he
struggled to adjust to that role. But the fact is
that his wife at the time, I don't I don't
think they're still married. I don't think they're still married.
But his wife at the time, uh was quoted in
The l A Times saying that Jackson had a personal
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vendetta against Rice. She even said that if she were
in her husband's shoes, she would be Latrell's pretty well
part two. Oops, it's a shocker. They got rid of
Glenn Rice in it really surprising. My point is, unless
it's with her dad, your wife can't help you get
a job. But your wife can help, how do you
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lose a job? This happened Gus balls On. His wife was,
you know, outspoken about a couple of things and it
didn't go over well. And there was there was a
reason that took Us balls On having to go to
Arkansas State in order to get his first head coaching
job in college. A ridiculously successful high school coach offensive
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coordinator in the SEC had to go to Arkansas State.
Why is that? Because people thought his wife would just
say stuff
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Finals and thought, I could that be our teams? I
(00:22):
couldn't that be our teams? I would love to say
there are other topics today, but there really aren't Game
one in the books. Um. I don't get them all right,
but I do do the self pat when I get
them right. I told you this thing that there's a
chance for a steal of a home game. Game one
was a perfect one. Warriors off just a ferocious seven
(00:46):
game series, brutally physical, taxing game seven series, and I'm
not convinced the Warriors are nearly as good as uh
public's perception of the Warriors are, especially without Andre Guadala. All.
I love this and Lebron James being um in kind
of some moment of zen offensively having an offense to
(01:07):
which you have perfect spacing around him. I gave them
the chick. I gave him a chance, absolute chance. The
ten point point differential at the end. I want to
know a lot of youth sweating, right that you're like, oh,
twelve and a half, this is in the bag. And
then you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, just one technical foul,
(01:28):
that's good enough. Congrats to Ryan Music, who is the
only one who picked I said, I think he said
Calves by double digits. Oh, he said, well, obviously, Warriors
by double digit Excuse me. I thought would be a
close game, and we got a ridiculously close game. I
got a lot to get to, but let's start with
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technology and our use of technology. First thing is, no
matter how much Lebron James said, he read the play
better or as well as he's ever read the play.
Was his quote afterwards, Right, I read the play as
well as I've ever read the play. This is Lebron.
After the game, we were told that they were viewing
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if I had my feet outside the line. And when
I knew that, I was like, okay, that's gonna be
our ball. Um I knew I was outside in the
charge line. Um, So that's that's that's what the communication
was to us. And we were all over on the
sideline drawing up a play, um, you know, to try
to execute. Um trying to go up a couple of possessions.
No matter how much Lebron said, Hey, this is that.
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I read that that play defensively as well as any
play I've read. That's what the quote actually was. Um,
I think that people who are arguing most most people
Big Mike, who works with this runs the runs the studio,
He's like, oh, no, it was it was the charge.
I think most of us, especially when you watched in
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the slow mo, he got to be said before he
goes into his move. He was never said he turned
his body. I think most people, if you ask them,
they would go like, yeah, it kind of looked more
like a block. What you're bothered by is how can
you review a judgment call? Right? Do you know they
could review a judgment call? And technically technically you can't.
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Only you can't if you have to review whether or
not his feet were outside the line, which leads me
to believe that the officials one had a charge, one
or maybe two had a block, and after making the call,
they got together like, well, let's go, um, everybody do
the fingers together. Check the replay to see if his
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feet were outside the lines. Oh yeah, by the way,
while we're there, why don't we go in check on
whether or not it was actually a charge got it
got every good good So whether it was wink, wink,
nod not, whether it's just some eye contact or he
got three of and believe it or not, this is
the This is the hardest statement to make. These are
actually three the best officials in all of basketball. You're like,
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no way, like, yep, however you grade them, these are
actually as this is actually as good as it gets.
That's the best the NBA can do. And you can
sit there and tell me, no, they stink and they
made mistakes last night. They made mistakes. I don't think
they stink. They made mistakes. But it also proves how
bad most other officials are. Anybody who plays basketballs like, yeah,
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you're right, that's they're actually way worse. Otherwise, anyone played
overseas or you watched the Olympics, You're like, wow, they
are awful. This is actually the best officiating you're ever
going to get your like, no way, yep. I think
we're more bothered how they got to it than whether
or not the call was right. It's a hard call, right,
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I'm not denying that. Kevin Durant wasn't selfish not denying
that Kevin Durant didn't play poorly. It was a simple
drop off past Draymond Green, who might have dunked, probably
laid the ball in. Maybe Lebron deflects the past, but
the likehood is if he simply jump stops and lays
the ball off, it's dunk, it's a layup, and we
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play on. It's the process by which they got to it,
which the officials weren't totally honest with how they corrected
the call. I know that you think that you can't
have this, you can't change judgment calls. But the fact
is you watched football, which doesn't allow this type, this
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type of overturn, and thought they should. That You watched
for whether or not a catch was made or not made,
and said, hey, why can't they go back and say
that's past interference. You ever watched a play like that,
I've I have where they miss a call and then
but by rule they can't go back and change it,
and you think it's infuriating. What's the point of having
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replay unless the only reason every play is to get
it right, correct right, And this is one of the
problems with getting it right here. Here's the best equation
I can make. Does your car have a parking sensor?
Beep beepee? Do you can have a parking sensor? Have
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a parking sensor? Sometimes it's way way too sensitive, Like
I got it, I'm just parking the car. That's what
this is. Sometimes it's a little bit too much. But
you know what, the parking sensor stops you from doing
bumping into another car. Does your car have a seatbelt sensor? Oh,
(06:39):
that's seatbelt thing. I hate that seatbelt thing. You know what,
you won't do? You won't drive without your seatbelt. Technology
is amazing. I think it's amazing. I have a button
in my car. I'm gonna hate to break here that
can parallel park my car. For me, I gotta stop
at the right spot and I can parallel park my car.
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That's crazy, crazy, right, Isn't that? The most nerve wracking
part about taking a driving driving test is like I
gotta do the parallel parking? Who do? Who likes parallel
parking now? I, particularly because I lived in work New
York City. I'm actually a great parallel parker. But the
idea of having no adjecta, no anxiety over parallel parking like, nope,
(07:22):
there's literally no way that my car will crash into
another car. Was parallel parking because I got this one button.
I'd like crazy, but I gotta stop it just so
I gotta make sure that it says I can parallel park.
I gotta press the button and then I gotta take
my hands off. So you've been screaming for technology. You
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discussed we need artificial intelligence. Here, that's what you got.
You got technology. You've got the call right, and they're not.
The NBA is completely honest and forthcoming about why they
went to review the call. Anybody who's ever played basketball
knows that sometimes the ball goes out of bounds off
of you, but you got fouled, so you get the ball.
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Why I got even it up? The same thing is
true here. My guess is that they had a disagreement
on the call. One guy had charge, one or maybe
two had a block. You know, we'll do let's go
and check to see if his feet are outside the
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semi circle. Because the officials know all of the rules,
that's why they made it to the NBA Finals, and
they know that the only way to overturn this call
to make sure they get it right is to review it,
and after reviewing it, it actually goes to the league office,
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to which they said, like there's a block. And for
people who say, oh, well, you know, Steve Javy, he
had it as a charge. Like, dude, Steve Javy, all
he's trying to do is not sell out the guys
on the floor. He thought they had a charge. A
charge has never been overturned in the history of basketball,
which you saw last night is the first time in
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playoff basketball n c A tournament. I know there's a
bunch of Baylor fans who love that, I zing Duke
because a couple of years ago, five six years ago,
they they they beat Baylor on a super controversial should
have been a charge, was called a block call or
two three. But the point is we have never said
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has never happened before. Here's Tyler, you know, for our
team to come out and you know, play their hearts
out and compete the way we did. Man, I mean
just I mean, it's it's bad and it's never been
done before where you know, he's outside and restricted and
then you go there and overturn the call and saying
some block. It's never been done ever in the history
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of the game. Ever, and then tonight in the finals
on the biggest stage, team play that play well and
play their ass off man, and just here's the here's
here's the problem. Okay, I thought Tyler did a magnificent
coaching job. I think everything he said is correct. They
outplayed the Warriors. They deserve to win the game. Was
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it a charge or was it a block that was
never asked of him? Was the charge? It was the block?
And he well, is this and that it would never
be done. I'm not disputing any of that. But just
because it hadn't been done did not mean they didn't
ultimately get the call right And oh yeah, by the way,
while we're sitting here making all kinds of funny memes
(10:46):
about j R. Smith not knowing the score and then
lying about it afterwards, George Hill is a free throw shooter.
He made the first, he choked the second. He makes
that free throw. There up one went with four seconds
to go. But Tyler saying, we we played our heart
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till you did. We competed, you did. We deserved to
win you did. We did this, and we did that,
and we held that and we were you did. Nobody's
arguing that was the charge was of the block all honesty,
but they didn't call it a charge. It's never been
overturned before. Was it a charge or was it a block?
Was block's block? Here's KDS thoughts, Well, I could have
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bucked j r. R. I gotta do a better job.
So I'm glad we we was able to get to
win with that happening. But the block charge thing, um,
I knew once it was thirty thirty seconds ago that
they can review that situation. I knew that. I knew
he was late on the drive and I know I
had my man beat and he came over a little lake.
So when they called the charge, I was surprised, But
I'm glad they reviewed it. You know what the other
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part is, you'll you'll never hear anybody back up, and
you're never like, hey, we got one. I got away
with one there. He did kind of like I didn't.
I didn't do a good enough job box out. No,
you didn't box out at all. He didn't do a
good enough job. That's that. Lett me translate. You did
a terrible job. J R. Smith, who's not a rebounder,
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got an offensive rebound in the biggest situation in the
game and you're seven with long arms with inside position.
Other than that, you totally nailed the rebounding thing. Be
sure to catch live editions of the Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Let's
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welcome in Ryan Hollins, who played for a decade in
the NBA. You see him on our network. You see
him on ESPN as well covering the NBA. Ryan, what's
let's let's start with the block charge? Was that absolutely
the deciding play in the game. No, No, that wasn't
cleve and getting robbed two plays prior against the stat
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Golden State team was the decider in the game. And
interesting enough is that Kenny was on that baseline and
he knew was a block, but he tried to give
Doug and you know this, We've had it happened all
the time since youth basketball. A makeup call, you give
a makeup call back on the other way. And when
he attempted to do the makeup call, they overruled it
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because he knew how he knew, he knew he had
the angle. If we gotta understand, there's three referees. Every
referee has a different angle, Every referee has a different story. Okay,
so he tried to help clean the game up Kenny
on that baseline, and he couldn't do it, and then
the rule came in place, and that's why everybody's upset.
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And it shouldn't even have been revealable. Wait what what
play are you talking about? A couple of plays before
there is a blatant foul, A play before and then
Kevin durn goes that abounds beside Sutton Canduran bound. Kay,
so hey, you're Cleveland, that's given every every little mustard up.
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I hope you got all right to be able to
beat Golden State. You know, listen, offense is a struggle
and they could not bounce back from that, and they
worked the ball around his month. You couldn't have had
a better possession and then they arrived. What's the matter
with d Listen when I say this, Cleveland now actually
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has a guy available to guard Kevin Durant, a guy available.
Can Lebron James card guard Kevin Durant, Yes, clearly, but
he's got the role on his fleet. You gotta score
fifty one points and he would have had a triple
double if they if these guys could have made an
open three point shot, okay, or if he wasn't fould
every time that he passed the ball out that wasn't
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called Jeff Grain. Former teammates him. Durant has a size
and athleticism and obviously it feels just like practice. He's
a guy who can actually guard Kevin Durant, and when
you put him in a screening situation, he Lebron switched
several times that game. But yeah, Katie's probably a little tired.
I'm sure everybody's tired at this point. But they actually
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have a matchup to stay front of him. You bringing
former teammate to mind. Man, he's I mean, that's he's
just the heck of a defender. No, not just that,
but the other part is it Lebron guarding Draymond gives
him the opportunity with the exception when he screens for
Kevin Durant to catch a break, you know, to catch
his breath defensively so that offensively he can show his superpowers.
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You know, they're they're playing kind of three on five
on offense, and they smartly put Lebron James you know,
Lebron James and Draymond who I know he hit two
last night, one and overtime, but for the most part
doesn't want to look at the basket. The Draymond Green
has been passing up more shots than his rookie year,
and his rookie year he passed them up because he
couldn't shoot. I'm not sure what's going on with Dreamline,
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but he hasn't even been looking at the rim. And yeah,
one of my keys to the game, my two keys
to the game, which is disappointing for Cleveland was pace
and physicality. They beat them up off the offensive boards.
And when I say pace, playing in Cleveland's face, not
Golden States. And you have a Lebron that's able to rest.
That's that's a key to the game. That is a
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that is a blessing. That's something that he couldn't do
the last time. It's a great point. Ryan Hollands joining
us on the Doug Otlips Show on Fox Sports Radio,
what do you think on the I mean, look, j R.
Smith he can say afterwards he thought it was tied,
but I mean we all read his lips. He didn't
know the score. He thought they he thought they had
to lead, right. So just as basic as this, the
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team Cleveland got cheated yesterday. Those guys are upset and
they essentially they're sticking together. They're they're banding together. They mean,
I'm not gonna knowledge now. Internally, he's getting slapped in
the back of the head a couple of times, okay,
and he's kicking himself harder than anybody else as j R.
Smith is that type of guy. What the the Jr?
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That you see and you think you know who he
is on the court man, he's one of the most
humbled down to earth guys I've I've ever known, I've
ever been around. Okay, but he's kicking himself in the
back of the head. But I applaud Cleveland because those
guys are having his back and sticking together, and they've
made a choice not to acknowledge what happened. That's not
important in Lebron, let me give this to you, Doug.
You want the psyche of the game. Lebron pulled this
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when they were down three one. He actually responded to Draymond,
got in Draymond's face, I want to say, almost pushed him.
And Draymond gets to tech down three one, game, series play,
game changing play last night, and every time I've compete
against Lebron and we've said things to him, we've hit him. Well,
I didn't say things, so we hit him, done everything
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to try to knock him on the game, and it
didn't work at the end of the game. One of
those in the first in the first excuse me in
in game one and Lebron doesn't respond. And at the
end of the game, Lebron started that whole scuffle. That
was Lebron doing that, and he knew that he needed
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to overshadow what had happened. He knew he had to
overshadow Jr's mistake. I say, guys, well let's fight, let's
come together, And that's what you saw Ron James do.
There was no accident. That is probably one of the
most intelligent moves you ever saw it because he knows
he needs Jr. And j R. Loves to fight, and
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everybody's gonna have Lebron's back. So how likely are we
to have a series? You're very likely. You're very likely
because Golden State only did what they were supposed to do,
going going right. Then Golden State did what they were
supposed to do and yesterday Lebron rallies troops again, and
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there's a lot of holes in that Golden State teams.
I don't know if Clay Thompson plays the next game.
Don't be surprised if he shows up on that injury report,
all right, not able to play. I haven't have I
don't know how he got back in that game. Okay,
so Eagle Donalda, I doubt he comes back firing on
all cylinders. A lot of holes. They were able to
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execute their game plans. And if a couple of guys
on the league not that a handful of list, we
got a series. Brother. I completely agree with you. Know,
I've I've heard people and it's it's almost it hurts
my brain sometimes it's like, well, look at all these
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things that that had to happen, and and Golden State
still beat them. I was like, dude, Golden State shot
fifty one thirty six and miss one free throw, the
entire game played at home, had to run at the
start of the third quarter, and still needed a crazy
sequence of events in the fourth cool just to you know,
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just to beat um, just to beat the Cleveland Cavaliers
in Game one. I'm with you. I thought it was
a series before the series, and I think it's a
series now. You've gotta be physical with him, and I
think the space around them. They last year they had
a bunch of dudes they can throw out Lebron James
to guard him. Now the best guy they have to
guard him is Kevin Durant, and clearly he's struggling with it.
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It wears him down offensively. And without Iguadala, they have
no spacing, they don't have a guy to keep on Lebron.
They're all screwed up right now. They're not to mention
Kevin Durant had to start on Lebron, and now Katie's
worrying about defense and scoring. And nobody wants to give
up a bucket. You know what I'm saying, You give
up a bucket morale boost a morale loss on the
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other side, And you know, Lebron is not the guy
you kind of talk mess to. When he can, when
he can put you in the rim, It's it's gonna
be it's gonna be fascinating to see Doug Gotlip Show
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Let's welcome to Ethan Strouss, who joins us from the Athletics. Ethan,
I know you haven't been listening. You've got a bunch
of other stuff you're doing. Do an outstanding job covering
the NBA. Um My thoughts, Let's start with the call.
My thoughts in the call was like, look, I actually
think they got it right, and I think the reason,
the true reason they reviewed it is one official had
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it as a charge and he made a big show
of it. The other guys are like, I had a
block on that one, and this is just a way
to get to catch a breath and to and to
to to let you know New York in on making
the final call on such a call. Is that is
that a reasonable way of looking at Yeah, And I
think you're you're wearing on the money with that, and
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you're probably showing your plane experience and something that one
out that there is some old school rapping that. Then
they retroactively say it's according to rule section A slash
B that you know it has something to do with
the restricted area. No, they just thought maybe they botched
that one, they had an excuse to go and look
at it and then they could retroactively correct it. And look,
I'm against free play review in general. I think it's
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it's bad. It's perfect is the enemy of good, right uh.
And people want to get the call right, but in
doing that, they're screwing up the flow of the game.
And then there's this controversy over is it enough to overturn?
And I like the nineties, man, I like the nineties.
Back in the day, there are some botched calls and
we all lived with it and we learned how to
deal with it. Um. And I don't think that this
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is the best way to go about it. But under
the rules as they are written, um, and as we
have them, then I don't see what the big controversy is. Right,
it's it was a botched call, it was a block,
and so it eventually got called the block. Then then
let's get to the miss free throw four seconds remaining,
four seconds remaining in the game. Um. You know, like
two guys who escaped criticism, George Hill, who is a
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very good free throw shooter, And there's the is a
difference beem missing a free throw, Hey, you miss one
around and out hits the back rim. You know, it
looks like right to leave it that short after making
your first one, that's a that's pressure, that's that's a
choke job. And then Katie doesn't box out. Now Katie said, like,
I need to do a better job of rebounding or
try and box out at all. Um. But uh Jr.
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Trying to convince the world that he thought of the time.
There's not a liberator in America who thinks he said,
I thought it was tied. Well, that's it's it's a
situation where the more interesting mistake, the more inexcusable mistake,
then gets conflated with the uh, the more damaging mistake.
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But when you look at it, what's more damaging. What's
more damaging is George Hill, who could win the game
right there. You could win the game of the free
throw missing the free throw. J R. Smith is a
terrible shooter within the paint, He's not good. If he
had known the actual score, then he's coming back up
with it. And Kevin duran as seventh fall is either
going to block, everybody's gonna miss. So, yeah, it was inexcusable.
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It was basketball negligence, and so we're all going to
make him the goat and mock him rightfully so, but
it didn't actually matter. I would contend it didn't actually
shift the probabilities that much of the game. And yeah,
you could say Lebron was open, but let me tell
you if if J R. Smith knew the score of
the game, uh, you wouldn't have even gotten out there
and seeing Lebron. He only saw Lebron because he ran
away from the paint because he thought that that you
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thought the game was you thought that the cons are winning. Yeah,
he clearly clearly did. Um. Okay, let's get to the
actual gameplay. I thought. I thought the game plan was
a masterpiece from Tyler. Right, be super super physical with
the three scores, and then whoever's guarding the fifth guy
for the Warriors, you're in help. And then put Lebron
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James and Draymond Green and dare him to shoot the basketball.
You're in help. It allowed Lebron to catch his breath
defensively and allowed and really, you know, ran Golden State
off the three point line. I thought the game plan
was really good. I guess the question becomes is that
replicable going forward in the series? It was? It was
a really good game plan. I'm sorry that my infant
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son is taking any weird noises in the background. It's
actually it's actually amazing. What's his name? His name is Asher,
and how old's as? Asher is seven weeks old, so
I'm between this, oh, nine weeks My wife just corrected me, Well,
now I'm in trouble. Uh he's nine weeks old. So
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between the the NBA vitals and this, I'm not getting
a lot of sleep. But it's all it's Honestly, it's
pretty sweet because then you're like, no, I'll do the
late night feedings, no problem, you go to bed, mean
while you're watching the gate exactly exactly well on the
game plan. Uh yeah, I think that it's replicable in
some ways. I gotta say the Cats played really well.
Their shock quality, those fancy metrics we have for how
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how the quality of shots versus did you make them?
They quality shots. They're offense did really well and I
sometimes wonder if they're a little underrated. I think maybe
in order to burnish Lebron's legacy, we're exaggerating the extent
to which this team is bad. It's a lot like
the old Calves team that we've seen in this matchup.
Instead of having a Kyrie Irving an offensive guy, you've
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got a defensive guy in George Hill. And yeah, I'd
rather have the Kyrie Irving iteration, but it's not altogether
that much different. Uh So I thought it was a
good game plan. It's a solid team. It's a team
that gives the Warrior's problems because they beat him up.
And also on the other side, I think the Warriors
don't know quite what to do on pick and roll
action with Lebron. They love switching everything, but you can't
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really switch everything against Lebron on the way you can
against the Chris paul Or or a James Harden. It's
just too much for Steph Curry to deal with. And
so that aspect is also replicable where I'm not sure
how the Warriors are going to solve that particular issue.
I think it's I think it's fast thing. I thought
it was going to be a close series. I still
thought the Warriors would win. Um, what do you think,
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you know? Becoming what did you think? I thought everybody
was talking five games and my suspicion was more towards
six games. I mean, I try not to do you
know what, I try not to do predictions. I try
to be like Brian Windhorse, because here's the thing, we writers,
We have such little esteem in the eyes of the fan.
Why give them something tangible to bash us with? Right,
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Why give them just a tangible You predicted this and
it was actually that to hit us over the head with.
So I normally try to evade it. But my sense
of things was more in line with you, in part
because I know people will hammer home before All Stars
four All Stars were All Stars. But Andre Goodala is
a really good and he's be very important to the team.
And this is a team that, yes has an embarrassment
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of riches as far as talent goes, but the whole
is not greater than the sum of its parts. It's
never really cohered in the way maybe people thought it would.
So not having Igodala there does make a difference, especially
since he's their best defensive guy on that Lebron James Fellow,
who is quite important in this whole series. I think
the other part is how does how does Cleveland bounce
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back from this? Right? Like I'm I'm reading, this is
a pretty good two little tweets here, and essentially says
what I've been saying the entire show. Ethan Strauss is
our guest from the Athletic does a great job, and
he's also bouncing his young baby Asher on his knee. Uh,
you know, put post post feeding. It's doug out the
show Fox Sports Radio. So Roussilo says, I think when
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he said, uh, I think the horrible things that people
are pointing out, the calls, the only reason the Calves lost.
Make a free throw. Try not to forget the score
when playing in the game. Bill Simmons adds on, don't
give up an easy three point play the staff up
to in the last thirty seconds, make the go ahead
free throw, remember the score, and don't completely cave in
in overtime. So I guess the question is, if you
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feel like you had one and then you gave it away,
how do you bounce back from it? Um Man, maybe
you could better answer that one, because you've seen remember
that Clipper Spurs series where the Clippers had just these
devastating losses in that series, and uh, they had that
DeAndre Jordan's gaff right there was almost similar to the
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j R. Smith gaff where Chris Paul screaming at him
but they did come back and they won that series
because maybe you're inspired by that frustration, um and that pain,
and you still have a chance to correct things. So
we've seen, we've seen such things happen. Now, what I
would be a little bit worried about from a Cleveland
Keller's perspective is that I think that the Warriors are
seen enough evidence that Mike causing to go away from
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some of the line ups that don't work and start
using the line up that do work. They got an
object lesson in you know what works, uh, the overtime
with Sean Livingston and de Andre Goddala role. You know
it doesn't work Kavon Looney in that role in the
fourth quarter. I think that's gonna be a lot tougher
for the Cavs to deal with going forward. And they
got their shot against softer line ups last night. I
attend to great, What's what's going on with k D Man.
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That's a great question, now, isn't it. He has these
games where it's just p lexing I in the Game
six against the Rockets of the Warriors. One. Yeah, the
Warriors eventually ran away with that one, but I ended
up writing just on did but fuggling first half ward,
he wasn't playing defense and where you might have attributed
five three pointers from the Rockets, just fully on Kevin
Durant not matching up with guys and not getting back
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in transition and and just doing the basics of the job.
And it is completely confounding. And you know, I'm glad
he admitted to it on the on the rebound, but
that that's happening in general where he's getting pushed around rebounds.
I know he's that during the Rockets series that that
p Ja Tuckerton's to elbow him in the back, and
that's that's part of it. But you would just expect
better as far as doing the things you almost take
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for granted. He's not doing the things that you take
for granted. The Superstar uh it does. And I thought
that he did a very good job last Finals when
he was guarding Lebron, But I don't think he did
a good job in defense last night. Some of that
might be the pick and roll coverage that they're sussing
out and let's not switch everything and they have to
figure out the communication. But I don't have a good
theory for you on why he's not doing what he
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should be doing, but he's not doing it. Yeah. My
my theory is, look, they're being people are being allowed
to be really physical with him. I also think, um,
I think you know, Ryan Hollands joined us earlier and
I said this, Uh, look, they got some better matchups
this year. Last year, Lebron had to guard him because
of their personnel. This year, you can put Jeff Green
on him. You can put Nance on him a little bit,
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you know, you can put you can put Tristan on him. Um,
and and then Lebron king Garden as well, so you
have it's a lot like what the Calves had last year,
which was a lot more guys that could guard Lebron.
They have they have a lot more guys that can
guard him and our physical and Jeff Green obviously knows
this game. Yeah, this is one like this is this
is good. But you actually noticed and you know the
game and you're not just going by reputation. It's funny
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you would think, oh, you wouldn't want Lebron to Garden.
He completely torched Lebron last year in the finals. You
look at his highlight reel, it's coming at the expensive
Lebron and it's not an indictment of Lebron. It's just
Lebron cannot do everything on offense, will also playing defense
at this at this particular age. So I almost uder
if to get to get Katie going, if they don't
want to run more pick and roll and try to
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get Lebron switched on to him. I know that might
sound crazy, uh to the casual fan, that you would
want Lebron guarding you, but I think there could be
a benefit to getting Grant going and also tiring out Lebron. Yeah, completely,
and then yeah, and then I think, you know, and
then I think off I think that will help them
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on on defense as well. And I think they're they're
gonna have to start double teaming Lebron at different points
in time in order to get the ball out of
his hands, make somebody else make a play, not just
you know, not just make a shot. He obviously will
will pass into a shooter, but but they gotta they
gotta occasionally blitz him and get the ball ahead. They
got to vary some of their coverage because it becomes
all too predictable. I I completely agree they need need
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to vary it, but they also need to know what
they're doing when they vary it. Um, that's that's more
or less the key, the key for them because they
were not on the same page last night. In a
lot of possessions. I entered the series. I enter the
series thinking, you know, I heard Mike Wilbon m with
Dan Patrick and he said, hey, you know, unless you
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know something crazy happens, there is no real takeaway if
they lose this series. Because they he expects it to
lose the series. I have a completely different level of
respect for Lebron and kind of the zen by which
he's playing the development of his offensive game. His jump
shot the first three chords last night was great. I
think there's a ton to take away from this win
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or lose based upon how he plays and how his
game has evolved. Last night was a was the type
of performance I haven't seen since Jordan's What are your
thoughts on how we can change how we view Lebron
based upon how he's played, not just the fact that
he might lose to a superior team. I think there's
something to that and also might just speak to the
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era that we're in where we we have more of
a sense now that you can play really well and
lose that you can win the Cion without winning a
bunch of games in baseball just based on your d
r A. So there's a lot to be gained from
actually coming out and performing, and we're not just going
to hang it around your neck that you lost the theories.
So reputationally, Lebron could find himself in a situation where
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he might win finals MVP even if he loses the
series that nearly happened when it could all have one
finals MVP, and I think that would, uh, that would
be pretty good for him in the in the grand
scheme of things, And he's kind of in a good position.
It's not a good position for winning the series, because
in a good position where it's all upside, where uh,
you will be credited for exceeding expectations and not blamed
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if the calves are down in flats. Okay, a couple
of things I need to get to. Um, how happy
is Javelle McGhee that j R. Smith pulled the Javelle
McGhee because otherwise replaying Javelle McGee's miss dunk over and
over and over again. Oh man, it was just it's
so funny with those two guys that would happen was
almost a satire of who they are and with JaVale
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it was going so well. That was the other a
thing I was saying. I was watching in the media
area behind the court, um, and I was I just
kept saying to the guy next to me, Uh, this
has found money. Steve's got a pull them. Steve's got
a pull him. He's got to pull them. And I
didn't expect it. Hey, I think it might have been
plus eight on the game, or you might have had
a pretty good run in there despite that humiliating dunk
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that me was was that was that fatigue? Possibly that
could have been fatigue in away or just I just
think he got lost to I just think he got
lost as to where he was in the court. I
mean I think I think it happens. I just think that,
you know, it just happened to happen to to Javel McGhee. Um,
do you have any idea what's going on with Kevin
Love's hair? Because that is can can we have formed
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some sort of investigation? What is that is that? Hey? Man?
For all I know, that's cool? I mean, was that
a crossmade? What do we what do we call that?
It might be cool. For all I know, I'm a
to add now I don't know what's cool, so I
don't want to hate on it. Yeah, I felt it
felt like either a Floby or like, yes, maybe went
flow By. Maybe he just like, hey, I was bored
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in the hotel room. He's he's watched everything he could
possibly watch on Netflix and Amazon Prime and Hulu, and
so he just started just kind of going to work
on his own hair, and he's like, damn, I have
no idea how to fade it. So I'm not even
gonna try. I'm just shocked about the Flowby reference. I
I might my dad bought a Flowby back in the day.
I had a few Floby haircuts, and you know what,
that might even be an insult of the Flowby. You
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might get sued by the makers of flow By because
of the haircut that Kevin Love has. So uh yeah,
you know, shout out flow By. UM. I hope they're
still going strong. And as far as what Kevin loves
doing with his hair, I guess just keeping it interesting. Okay,
So you started the series UM without really a prediction.
What do you think now? I still I still don't
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necessarily have a prediction because I'm trying to be coy
and I'm trying to be cool like that. Um, But
as far as what I think now, I think the
Warriors dodged the bullet. I think they're very happy to
have won a lucky one. Sometimes it's better to be
lucky than good great, and I think, hey, beyond just
winning a game, it's I think it was good for
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the Warriors in the sense that they when I talked
to them after the game, the coaches were actually oddly happy.
Usually they're they're mad when they messed around. They they
they squander opportunities, but they had a sense of the
first games of feel out game, we didn't have our
coverages right. So I think it's ultimately better for the
Warriors beyond just winning the game. At the same time,
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I might have a little bit more respect for Lebron
the cast chances than this the most people as you do.
So I'm hedging like crazy, I'm giving you a very
unsatisfying answer, and I apologize for that. No, I'm you're
you're leaving it up to Hey, there's a lot of
bast like we all think that every basketball game is
going to be the same, and we all completely forget
that even last year there were some very very close games,
even at the final, even at the final score was
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four games to one. Within the context of the series,
it wasn't necessarily wasn't every they win every game by
twenty points. We see in sports where we conflate probability
with inevitability. I don't know why, but we just skip ahead.
If somebody has an eight percent chance of doing something,
we act as though twenty is impossible. And I'm just
not of that mentality really, you know, I think that
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the calves are a laun shot, but a laun shot
doesn't mean that's a foregnclusion. And I think if you
look at the ratings for this one, America agrees. America
is into the series even a lot beas sports writers
boo boo it great stuff. Ethan Strouss, get back to
caring for young Asher. Congratulations to your wife. She did
all work for the last eleven twelve months. Now since
it's nine weeks and you you butchered that thing. Thanks
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seventies six years. Internal probe this from Ajoran Award Znowski.
The internal pube into an anonymous Twitter accounts has become
increasingly focused on the wife of president of basketball operations
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Brian Colangelo. Franchise ownership is seriously considering Colangelo's dismissal, League
sources told ESPN prob hasn't been complete in the final
decision is yet to be rendered, but the fallout from
the report by The Ringer that connected Twitter accounts unleashing
privileged information and provocative attacks and surrounding the Sixers left
ownership flushed with embarrassment and anger and Colangelo fighting first
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professional life. League sources set, Yeah, it doesn't matter a
couple of things to this. Okay, I think I think
this is really good journalism, but I also think it's
really bad journalism. At the same time, they posed a
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question without really an answer, and the the likely answer
they came up with was these must belong to Brian Colangelo,
and it turns out it belonged to his wife. I
wouldn't say, you know, look, if they're circling around and
that's increasingly focus, like we're all it's his wife. Now,
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I guess you could ask the question, wait, was he
tweeting from her phone? But why would he? Why would he? Um? So,
the first thing is I do think you probably have
to fire him, if nothing else for optics, it looks
really bad. This is a lot like one of the
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issues that the Lakers are running into with a Lonzo Ball,
Like I don't believe a Lonzo Ball is running home
and telling his dad, Hey, Gunner Peterson doesn't know what
he's doing. Hey, Luke Walton lost control of us as
a team. Hey this, Hey that. But because a Lonzo
Ball won't speak up and say, uh, LaVar Ball doesn't
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speak for me, I'm not giving him information the team.
It's it causes people to wonder, Hey, is LaVar getting
this stuff from Alonzo or is he just making it
up on his own? Which is the same thing with
Brian Colangelo's wife. Is she making this up on her
own or is she getting information from her husband and
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then she's tweeting it out. My guess would be that
she's These are all secondhand conversations that they she has
had at home or listen in on, or been a
part of and just sat there and she wants to
she wants to defend Like, look, my wife gets into
this where she wants to defend me. It happens, it does.
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It's not just a woman thing, it's a spouse thing,
where you want to defend your significant other, especially from
people who have no idea what they're talking about, like
the Twitter spear. And if you you don't think he
could cause you to get fired? Do you guys remember
when Glenn Rice was a member of the l A
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Lakers promis you're from l A. I remember you remember
why he wasn't part of the second and third team, Um, um,
the third teams of the three peat Shack and Kobe team.
I don't remember exactly why. I no tell you. I
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went I checked this out. Um. Glenn Rice's wife Christie
at the time, Christina Fernandez Rice ripped into Phil Jackson.
That's really what happened. Now, was there probably some discord? Sure? Uh?
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The discord between Rice and Jackson went national in June.
This is June of what yours is two thousand and one.
So anyway, Rice's wife said that that Phil Jackson, Uh,
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that Phil Jackson wasn't treating him fairly. Uh, she wasn't
using in the right way that he couldn't wait to
get out of there anyway. They got rid of him,
and Glenn Rice was like the perfect guy for what
they had. They needed a shooter, a guy who got
multiple positions, a veteran who made shots and could play
off of Kobe, could play off of Shack. He was great.
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He didn't like burn being the third wheel, and he
told his wife, and his wife told the media, and
that ultimately was his undoing. He averaged sixteen points a
game with the Lakers that season. Not keep in mind,
three years earlier, he had averaged game with the Charlotte Hornets.
He was the best player on a bad team. You
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make him as the third best player on a great team,
and there's there's the there's the statistical difference, and he
struggled to adjust to that role. But the fact is
that his wife at the time, I don't I don't
think they're still married. I don't think they're still married.
But his wife at the time, uh was quoted in
The l A Times saying that Jackson had a personal
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vendetta against Rice. She even said that if she were
in her husband's shoes, she would be Latrell's pretty well
part two. Oops, it's a shocker. They got rid of
Glenn Rice in it really surprising. My point is, unless
it's with her dad, your wife can't help you get
a job. But your wife can help, how do you
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lose a job? This happened Gus balls On. His wife was,
you know, outspoken about a couple of things and it
didn't go over well. And there was there was a
reason that took Us balls On having to go to
Arkansas State in order to get his first head coaching
job in college. A ridiculously successful high school coach offensive
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coordinator in the SEC had to go to Arkansas State.
Why is that? Because people thought his wife would just
say stuff
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