Doug Gottlieb & Jason Smith hosting The Dan Patrick Show: 07/05/2018

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Patrick Show a day after the fourth of July, which,
because of the stupid calendar, is somehow still in the
middle of the work week. It's just not fair. Doug
Godlebland Jason Smith are here filling in for Dan and
the Dan Netts because they did the smart thing and
took vacation. It was genius. But we're here, and so

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is NBA Free Agency and the World Cup and the
Mercedes Man Cave Doug, Jason, go ahead. Sometimes it's that
simple Box Sports Radio, The Dan Patrick Show, Jason Smith,
Doug Gottlieb in for Dan. Happy day after fourth of July.

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We got a lot of stuff to get to. But yeah,
right now people still are on the hangover and you
and I are still on the hangover of the fourth
of July and the wonderful as as you talked about yesterday,
the life changing firework shows that you see somehow you
see every year that that nobody else does. That just
changed your absolute life and now you're like dionetics or

(02:05):
something else. You've come in with a whole new attitude
on life. Somehow I got somehow I got a real
thing with dianetics. Look I started when I walked in today.
Wanted to apologize to you and say, you're right. They're
all the same right there. It's basically like I haven't
seen this Jurassic Park, but I've seen this Jurassic Park, right, Like, uh,

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somehow dinosaurs are still around, they get on the loose,
they eat people, and Chris Pratt helps save the day.
But there still maybe another Jurassic Park. Right. That's that's
every fireworks show. I'm sitting out there. Oh, my wife,
we don't have our kids are at sleepaway camp, and
so we don't know what to do with ourselves. And

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we've had a great day, beautiful day. I had a
couple of SIPs of wine and I'm sitting there and
she's like, oh, oh, like, honey, they are all the same.
They're literally all the same. So you're right, I'm wrong.
You're smart, I'm stupid. You're attractive. I'm not so good

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looking now. Well look, look I'm not the one Martina
hingis was you know, years ago? Yeah, but but you
you know what, you you look remarkably the same. I'm
not saying you're you're like Dick Clark, but you look
remarkably the same from you know, the first time around
at the other place, you know, ten years ago, twelve,
you look remarkably the same. You're remarkably spry, you look
like you could still play. I mean, you know, hair line,

(03:35):
hair lines a little different. Okay, hair lines a little different. Yes,
I appreciate that. I just I You're right. Every fourth
July does seem to run into one another. We had
a great like look could not that Southern California. We
didn't we didn't get caught up in the heat way
for us is coming I think tomorrow, yeah, tomorrow and Saturday. Yeah.
So if you're East coast Midwest, we apologize to you.
But it was perfect. I mean, I couldn't have been

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better set indeed, but when I live with like seventy two,
seventy three, not a cloud in the sky, it was amazing.
But it was like any Fourth July ever, right where
you're just like, okay, finale time, finale town, where's the
fensi finale, there's the finale? Okay, check please tip a
bit you. I will say this about Fourth of July
about fireworks is that I can oh. I don't know when,

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but in the last few years now I know I
don't need you need to go to a place to
see great fireworks, right you, Sally said, Okay, we're gonna
go here because here's a great fireworks show in town.
Wherever it is. You knew there was a place to go.
We go here, we can see it. And even even
here in Los Angeles, I knew I had the best
place to go is was the l m U campus. Right,
That's always the best place nearer I live as l
m U because you get to the top elm and

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you can see like seven cities fireworks, and that's awesome.
But now it's at the point where if you just
go outside your house and you're hanging out outside, you
can look in any direction three sixty and you'll see
some really good fireworks that people will light up. Well,
there's also a little bit of inner league play. Uh,
and the All Star Game in major baseball effect. I

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stick with me for a second. The All Star Game
used to be the biggest thing in sport of baseball, right.
The reason was you didn't get to see all these
guys play, let alone see him play on the same
field against one another. And now because every game is
on TV, because every series, every every series is going
to have an inter league series' fifteen on each side,
we've had it in a league forever. Um, it's lost.

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It's not really that's all Star games in general aren't
that special because nobody, I mean, obviously baseball became a
total exhibition game and then they're like, no, it matters,
even though it didn't really matter. Um, it's just not
as cool because we've we we see all these guys.
It's not like when we grew up when you could
only see the team in your hometown. A matter of fact,
it's actually harder to see the team in your hometown

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in Los Angeles than it is to see other teams.
I mean, it seems crazy. So there's nothing really that
special about All Star Games. Well, it's the same thing
with the fireworks. Like I would guess that when we
were kids, fireworks were reserved for the fourth July, right,
And sometimes you heard them like, oh, that was a
fire like a couple of days leading oh wait, someone's
like north fireworks like when they were testing or just

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lighting off a mat of or or you know, a
pack of fireworks. My wife was concerned about our dog.
We have a sheepidoodle, and I was like, why are
you concerned. She's like, well, today is the number one
day in which dogs run away. I was like, honey,
there are fireworks every night at Disneyland. You can hear
him from my house, right. There's anytime the Angels hit
a home run, there's fireworks. Like fireworks have became you know,

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and and granted there are more fireworks shows I understand,
But the fact is that there's a lot of different
times and when you'll see fireworks now in real life,
you won't see the handheld ones, which I to me
the that was the the JPP tweet last yesterday was
the one that you wanted to show to a kid,

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but you didn't want to show to a kid. But
on four July, there's like nothing better to show to
somebody who's thinking about, hey, man, I want to hold
some fireworks and throw them at the last second than
the JPP tweets he puts it out yesterday. Jason Smith,
Doug Gottlieb in for Dan Patrick and the Dan Netts
today and Jason Pierre, Paul Bucks Defense Van and who
of course famously blew off a lot of his hand

(07:09):
a couple of years ago in the Fourth of July
fireworks accident which he held you know, big fireworks too long.
I've seen his hand before. I've seen it. It's been
a couple of years, obviously, And when he puts out
the tweet yesterday saying don't let this happen to you,
I thought that was a great p s A. And
when I saw his hand, I was bracing myself because

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I was gonna show people where we were at um
for are We were at a backyard barbecue and I
want to oh, my god, the JPP tweet. That's was
the big topic of conversation that in the hot dog
eating contest, but the JPP tweet was the big topic.
Oh my god, his hand. We're talking about the story
and I go to show it and I go, it
really just doesn't look real. I mean, I don't know
if this is part of the desensitizing of we are

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to every day with with certain things in life. When
you see, you know, people die in movies, whatever it is.
But I see it, and it really, even though it's real,
it looks like, hey, look at what Hollywood did to,
you know, make this guy's hand look mangled. His his
fingers were so inflated they didn't look really you couldn't tell.
You couldn't tell which were his fingers and which wasn't.

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And I'm watching this going, oh my god. And you know,
I never thought of showing it to you know, my daughter,
any of the kids. But I think that was more
for the parents. But hey, be vigilant, you know about
about your kids. Be vigilant that no one's holding onto
something or standing next to a firework when it's going off,
making sure their heads on a swivel, that if you're
standing here watching a firework. There someone's got something behind you.

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You're not backing away and backing into it. That that's
more where I took that from. And you know, I
think at our party there was a few people that
were a little said, Okay, I gotta I'm I'm gonna
be a little bit closer than I need to be
for stuff. Yeah, but but I would I would tell
you that, like, I don't know, I kind of feel
like you need to show it to a kid. I
don't know what the age cut off is, right like
that that's one of the things that we need as

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a parent, parental guide. And I'm sure there's a website
which is like what's the age to which, like cell
phones is like I guest middle school because cell phone
middle school his middle school. But but but do you
let them get Instagram in middle school? Right? Because now
that can they communicate when they get uh Instagram? But
they can also they get that fear of missing out

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they see their friends anytime a friend has a sleepover
or goes to go somewhere with another friend. Then sometimes
they feel left out, like it is fomo is is
like a legit problem with I have too middle school girls.
So it happens. So but anyway, there needs to be like, hey, hey,
at the age of ten, you can show them the

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Jason Pierre Paul photo. Right at the age of twelve,
you know, that's when you start to you have the
birds and the Bees conversation. At the age of what
is the age to which you can take them to
a Marvel movie? What is the age to which you
know you know what I mean? So I think though
that if your kid, I mean kids are a little
bit desensitized, but you're show them that photo would be like, look,

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this is what can happen. I'm not saying what's gonna happen?
And it's don we have that when we were kids.
Was the um who was the scared straight? Was the
red red pavement? Did you have that when you're in
high school about drunk drunk driving? Like they would show
you drunk driving accidents and they would show you like
some of the the crime scenes from drunk driving. Oh yeah,

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you see the police tape and they would show you
what yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that different scared straight, right,
So that that kind of thing, like that's really what
that Jason Pierre Paul photo compete eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox eight seven six. That's the thing is
that all your digits, I don't want to take away
from an enjoyment of the fourth of July. Wall as

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long as you're you're being careful, and it's not If
I thought my daughter was gonna go off and light
off fireworks, I would all right, we'll hang on a second.
Here's what this is and here and I kind of
feel like, I don't know what in my head. But
because every generation grows up a little faster, grows up
a little differently, I would say that. I would say
years ago, I would say, okay, fourteen, when someone's going
into high school, I would say that's when everything is

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on the table, as far as Marvel movies, as far
as birds and bees, everything else. But now I think
it's got to be a twelve. And maybe you want
to push the birds in the bees a little bit,
but I think everything else has to be a twelve
now for me. Marvel movies, but that the horses left
the barn on that we've seen almost every Marvel movie.
My daughter is nine and we've seen almost every She's
was in a huge Avengers kick for a long time.

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We watch a lot of the Event four is her favorite,
and I'm stunned. I'm going, how is Thor your favorite
of all? The Iron Man is so good in the
First Avengers, It's like, yeah, yeah. But she's into Thor
and the myth Greek myth and she does a lot
of it, reads a lot of books about Greek mythology
and everything. Now she likes the big Rick Reard and
Percy Jackson books. So she's just so we watched Thor
all the time and going, oh my god. Thor is
like really, we're gonna keep watching. We're gonna watch ragnar

(11:38):
Rock again. All right, We're gonna watch ragnar Rock. All right,
We're gonna watch that. So she's into that whole storytelling
part of it. But the Marvel movies, that's not something
that I think, Okay, can I show her this? Can
I not show that. There's a little bit of language
once in a while, there's murder, but but it's cartoon violence.
It's cartoon violence. Like, look, my we don't do Fortnite

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in my house. Um and my son who's only nine,
like he doesn't like Star Wars even though there's no
blood and Star Wars he just doesn't like people getting
shot or having their hands sliced off or whatever, and
so spoiler, so he does, he does, Yeah, I'm spoiling.
I'm spoiling Empire. You just spoiled it. Oh now specific

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but you just spoiled Empire for this Day's that there's
a ten year old kid listening right now on his
way to camp somewhere and he's going, wait that happens,
and you just ruined you ruined it for him. And
by the way, by the way, Darth is Luke's father,
Vader is father in German? How do you not get that?
All right? Sorry? Okay, so, um, you know anyway, I

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would disagree. I just I think it's I think nine
nine is a little early for that. Like I walked
out that last Aventuance movie and I took him to
see it with a buddy, and I like with him,
he was like, yeah, it was pretty cool. I was like,
there's a lot of kiling and he's like, I know,
I don't really like it. And I said, out, let's
just remember like it's just a movie. He's like, Okay,
I don't really want to see any of the more
of those. Like he was just not just not into it,

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and I, yeah, I just think it really hard. Well,
it doesn't end on an upswing either, you know. I
mean it doesn't, it doesn't, I was my spoiler. Yeah
it doesn't. It doesn't doesn't end well, but my whole
thing it sets up the next one where they're all right,
and I and I have a great theory about what
happens in the next movie compared to the end of
this one. I'm I'm sure we somehow. Yes, that's yes,

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we're doing movie We're doing movie previews for the Avengers.
You know, the Dan Patrick's Day. We got a lot
of stuff to get to today. Obviously, big day coming
off the fourth of July. We Wimbledon in action where
a couple of days rest of the World Cup. It
feels like it feels like the sports world. Uh swung
and missed yesterday though, because we're outside friends house in

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their pool, they cranked up the pool to like nineties
something that's always the best in it was like cocoon,
Like I feel like complete rebirth, you know. Um and uh,
but he had he has a grill and he had
the TV. He's not really a sports guy, but he's like,
you want me to turn something on. I was like
not really right, like not really could you throw at

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that early in the day here in southern California, Like
you get to afternoon on fourth July and there wasn't anything,
And I almost feel like baseball. I know that the
All Star Game was in two weeks in d C,
H and I want to talk about the Nationals in
a little bit, but it does it does feel like
we missed something. And you know, again, if you're if

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you're in d C, you had Red Sox Nationals. That's
like an eleven o'clock start that traditions super super early.
I don't know, it feels like the sports world World
Cup cranks back up today. There was no World Cup yesterday, right,
thank you to Russia. United States one yesterday yes Bi
had a hat trick out was great. So I just
it it felt like wimbled and there's like nothing really on.

(14:57):
And so it was a day to which uh suddenly
became the deadest day in sports, which I'm kind of bummed. Well,
I remember coming inside at one point because you know,
I'm one of those guys that always checks my phone
and I'm always you know, every few minale I haven't
checked my phone in an hour. I gotta see what's happened.
And I walked in and the TV is on and
and uh, I think it was on ESPN and just
breaking news, breaking news, breaking news. I'm standing. I starts,

(15:19):
I'm not breaking news. And like I said Carolin Wilsoniaki
is upset at Wimble and I said, oh wow, yeah,
well it's okay, all right, I can move on. I
can move on. I'm okay. Breaks score update, yeah yeah,
but yeah. But certain days it's like it's like local
news when they say we have breaking news, and sometimes
it's a crazy ass police chase somewhere and here's what's
going on, and the guy is weaving out of downtown streets.
And sometimes breaking news is this fire hydrant at the

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you know, at this big intersections has exploded and and
traffic has slowed down. I'm like, okay, that's really not break.
But it all falls under that batter. Sometimes breaking news
is big. Sometimes breaking news is well, just because we
say it's breaking news and we get you to the television,
I see what breaking news is. Happens that way. But
when it comes to the NBA, just because all the
big guys have signed doesn't mean there's not big news.

(16:03):
We got players tweeting out potential trades that could involve
them going to the Lakers. And one of Doug gott
Leeb's famous sayings is that, hey, you know what, sometimes
we can get an entire three hour show out of
what one player does on Instagram or Twitter. And coming
up next, there's a new wrinkle and a new left
turn in the Lakers Super Team Chase and involves Lonzo Ball.

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Thug and I taking you through this morning, and you
know we're we're past the point where you and I
talked yesterday. At the end of the show, he said, boy,
you know, NBA Free Agency kind of feels like it's over,
you know, Lebron signing certainly was a big deal. But
seeing all the pieces fall into place, and there's certainly
some guys out there that can help teams, you know,

(18:36):
the Clint Capella situation has gotta be figured out. There's
a few other players, but it kind of feels like
it's over. And now we're getting into the jockeying part
where the big dominoes have fallen, and now you're seeing
a lot of trade rumors. You're seeing we'll get into
the Damian Lillard story that maybe you know he could
be heading to the Lakers is possibly depending if you
want to believe you know, what he said on social media,

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what he's liked on social media. But the Lonzo Ball
story has taken a real left turn in the last
few hours. Now. I hate to say I told you so, Doug,
because I'm not that guy, except I do. I do
like to say I told you so once in a while.
I do like to, okay everybody, because I don't get
to do as long as you as long as you're
the person that says like, hey, my bad, right you

(19:19):
can't do one, and that you can't only be I
told you so guy, because then you become pompous, you know,
but if you're like, hey, sometimes I'm wrong. When I'm right,
I do want credit, Like I'll give you example. Uh,
people slaughter me because, uh there was when Steph Curry
declared for the NBA draft. I didn't. I didn't know
how his skills would translate. I didn't he hadn't played

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the point more than a year. He was super slightly billed,
and I thought there were other guys with more. I
thought Rubio had more NBA upside. I thought Johnny Flynn,
of course hurt his hip he was playing in the
triangle offense, that he had the chance to be the
next Kevin Johnson. Like I thought those guys had more upside.
And so people will slaughter me about, hey, you you
doubted Steph Curry, Like okay, but I can go through

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every NBA draft and you know, Derek Williams, for example,
at Arizona was the number two pick, and I told
people like, he ain't give me a good pro because
he played center in college, played five, played some four
and had to be a two three in the NBA,
and like it was just bad, bad fit. Just anyway,
My point is it's the same token of you can't

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be the I told just so and not also admit
sometimes you're wrong, which would you do? I'm not saying
you don't wrong. You also can't be can't go after
people and only go after the the takes in which
they missed on and not point out the ones that
they hit up. Remember when when when Steph Curry got drafted,
I said, listen, this is the beginning of a super team.

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You know, in five or six years when Steve, when
Steve Kerk gets there, are even on the radio, they're
gonna start ripping off champion. Somebody has somebody has that
audio somewhere. You wait till they're gonna get a kid
right now who's in high school, whose name just started
high school named Raymond Green. Watch him when he comes out.
So I hate to say I told you so, but
the Lonzo Ball situation is exactly what I feared when

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the draft came around a year ago. The Lakers completely
misappropriated the impact and the circus that Lonzo Ball was
going to bring to the Lakers. Everybody dismissed it all.
LaVar Ball is just a dad. He's just a guy
with a mouth, and everybody's gonna calm down he went
from being oh, look how fun LaVar Ball is to boy, wait,
LaVar Ball has said some racist things, and boy LaVar

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Ball may not be a good guy and all of
these things. But no, no, it's fine. He's just a dad.
He's just a dad. And when it happened last year,
as this is different, he has become a national personality.
And the problem the Lakers are gonna have, and this
is gonna be the big problem, is that he is
going to be loyal to his dad over the Lakers,
and that has come to fruition over the course of

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last year, since they've gotten him all a Lonzo Balls
got to do to get a clean slate from everybody
in the media. The fantas say, listen, my dad is
my dad, and I love him, and he talks a lot,
but I'm a Laker. I play for Luke Walton, I
play for Magic, I play for my teammates, and this
is where my loyalties are. And he has never done that,
even despite the fact he knows that that would buy

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him out of a lot of of worry and guilt
and and bad publicity. Let's get to the root of
the story, though, and that the story is that the
Lakers believe that LaVar Ball or Alonzo's camp leaked the
story about him had and having torn meniscus in order
to keep him from getting traded. Um, so I know,
I just had to set it up with I told

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you so before we got to this. So I just
I wanted to get I wanted to I wanted to
go back and then like a movie storytelling, I wanted
to go back and the Okay, look, the point you
made about a boat about Alonzo being his own man
is completely accurate, completely accurate, because I know people know
Alonso and they're like, look, I don't even think he
talks to his dad all that much, but he's he

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doesn't say as much. He does never he he doesn't
create any sort of break between him and his dad.
So when you hear his dad say things, it's only
natural for fans and even for coaches of the Lakers
in front office people to go, wait, is he getting
this stuff from Alonzo or is he creating it on
his own. He's been critical of their training staff. Look,

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if you look at Alonzo's body, it is changing, you
know they are, Uh, Gunner is changing his body. And look,
I don't know if Gunner is the right answer. I
really don't because he's been a trainer for the stars,
but not a trainer for athletes per se. The guys
who I know on that staff who watch him work out,
they think Gunner is incredible. But you know, like to me,

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I would have gone and gotten a guy who's trained athletes,
especially seventeen eight nine, twenty year old athletes, because you're
putting together somebody's body at a formative age, and if
you put it together the wrong way, it can break down.
That that would be my fear. So when Alonzo gets hurt,
hurts his knee and his body is changing, is working out,
and Lavarre is critical of it. Is he getting this

(24:02):
from Alonzo or is he saying because it does sound
like crazy dad stuff. But we never have Alonzo stepping
up and saying, hey, I speak for myself, and and
even Alonzo when he did speak for himself. And this
goes back to when LaVar said, um that Luke Walton
lost the team. Alonzo said he could play for any coach.
That wasn't the answer that they were looking for. What

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the Lakers wanted to hear, what anybody wants to hear,
is I don't play for any coach. I played for
Luke Walton. He's my coach. That's the only coach that matters.
I played for my dad growing up, but now I
play for for for Luke. He didn't do that and
that has He's never been able. He's a he's by
all accounts a good kid. His work ethic continues to improve. Um.

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They think that he actually had a pretty good year.
You know, people pick at pick apart the fact that
he wasn't making shots. They think what needs to be
fixed his finishing shots around the basket, his body and
eventually a three point shot will come. Um. But they
actually like Alonzo ball. The things that they don't like
are mostly all this other nonsense to which some of
which he could put to bed, and he's not, and

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it might end up getting his ass traded. This might
have the opposite of the intended effect, right where LaVar
puts out he's got to meniscus so he doesn't get traded.
That because he leaks out a story and usurps the
Lakers and how they want to handle things. The Lakers
maybe throw their hands up and go like, you know what,
we like Alonzo. We don't even mind LaVar like, we

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kind of feel like he's harmless in this whole whole thing.
He may spend all of Alonzo's money on this jb
A league anyway, but um, but we just did this.
At some point, we just gotta put an end to it,
and that may happen. Here here's the quote. Here's agent
wiljon Rowski on ESPN, which says that knee injury. I
think there was a belief around the Lakers that it

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was within his world that it got leaked out there
to keep him from getting traded. He doesn't want to
be traded from l A. It wasn't the Lakers who
wanted information out on that knee injury. There's a lot
of teams who were checking on possible deals with the Lakers.
They wanted to know. There were a lot of questions
about that knee. When the story came out, I said,
this was leaked by his camp because this was something

(26:08):
that if someone's got a torminiscus and their surgery and
they wanted out, the team releases that. But the fact
that this is a Yahoo report, I mean really yeah, yeah,
you know, Yahoo. Hey, they break a lot of stuff,
don't get me wrong, But injury wise, when someone's hurt
and this happened, you don't get this nothing from a team,
and you get this from Yahoo unless it was leaked
by people who are outside of what they want news out,

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and that's the Lakers. If they were okay with saying, hey,
Alonzo's got a torminiscus surgery, they would have put it
out there. They're not going to hide it from teams.
You know, they're not gonna say, oh, yeah, here you go,
san Antonio, here's a Lonzo. By the way, you have
torminiscus and uhh yeah, you're not gonna happened fitty two
games and he missed all his games because the knee.
So they're going to ask questions. But it's more what
becomes public and how it became public in the timing

(26:52):
of which my guess is, and this is this is
an educated guess, is that uh, suddenly he was including
the talks with san Antonio and uh, they freaked out
and they put it. They put it out there because
they feared san Antonio is a bad deal for us. One,
there's the John Tay Murray who he may or may
not be better then um and they value him. But

(27:15):
he would have been kind of a thrown in piece
of the deal and taking him out of l A.
But to just the idea you wouldn't be a Laker anymore,
especially with the Lakers getting Lebron James. I think there's
there's a ton of fear there. So yeah, like I
think all of this is accurate. I we nailed it.
I didn't. I did not see it. We talked and
then when when I'm wrong about stuff, we'll bring up,
I'll say my bed. I'll make sure I said it's

(27:36):
my bad. But when we talked about this the other day,
I said this will be the I said, I'll go bold,
this is the last season for a Lonzo in l
A because they're gonna go through this new beginning. And
I guarantee you there was a conversation when Lebron came in.
It was Okay, here's the roster, here's what it is.
Can you make it work with these guys who do
you like not like? And I'm sure a Lonzo was
a very big deal because of the very high profile
dust up with him in LaVar when Lebron had to

(27:58):
say keep my kids names out of your out. It was,
you know, not a fun thing, and now they got
to address that, and I'm sure Lebron said, no, no,
Alonzo's okay. We can make it where I can try
to make it work. I don't want to come in
ruffle feathers. He doesn't want bad publicity out there, which
is why the story about asking for the blessing of
said Sabaos to where his jersey was out there a
day ago. So I don't want to be suddenly the

(28:19):
person that comes in and forces a Lonzo Ball out,
because then I'll be fighting a war in the media
with LaVar Ball for a long time. So let's let
this play out and see if it works. By the
trade deadline, they'll be exhausted of this because nothing is
ever gonna be Alonzo's fault. Nothing. You know, when when
last year there there's there's certain things that happened in
the whole a Lonzo Ball circus that you gotta realize

(28:39):
this is a bigger deal than most when a Lonzo
wasn't scoring and it was probably i would say around
early January, and LaVar Ball said, well, the reason Alonzo
is not scoring and the taking as many shots is
because he sits for the first three minutes of the
fourth quarter and he can't get in a will flow,
so he's not taking shots. And I'm like, okay, so
sitting for the first two three minutes, which is what

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all the stars in the NBA do, this is what's
stopping him from shooting. I can't come back in the
game after resting for two or three minutes and shooting.
This is what. Nothing is ever gonna be his fault.
It's always gonna be somebody's doing something to stop stopping
a lonzo from achieving. And no matter what it is, Look, look,
he's he's just a dad. He's just a dad, and

(29:22):
he's not and he's the worst kind of dad. Where
he played a little okay, played in college, so he
thinks he knows everything and he knows very very little.
And the perfect example is that, you know, he he
brags about how much he coached his son, like, look,
my dad was a college coach, high school coach, college coach,

(29:42):
coached NBA seven leagues, coach in some of the minor leagues, whatever,
and um, I was prepared for college basketball, but not
perfectly prepared. A lot of things I didn't know. I
didn't do let alone. The n b A and as
much as I thought all of our workouts and things
we did would get me perfectly. It's just different. But
he didn't have the arrogance of LaVar talking about how

(30:04):
how well he prepared his son for this. His son
and never played pick and roll basketball in the NBA
outside of the Warriors, everybody runs tons tons of pick
and roll, especially when you're a point guard. Never play
pick and roll, never played trueman and man defense, was
bad finisher around the hoop. These are all coachable things
that they're having to work him through. He has great
natural instincts. He does. He's actually a pretty good leader,

(30:26):
and he's he's actually unselfish to a fault. But the
things that LaVar didn't prepare him for really hurt him
early in the NBA. But they were taking the long view, like, look, man,
he's improved in leaps and bounds in the fifty games
he's played. Next year, trying to play him seventies seventy
five games, he just he didn't know anything. But look,
there's lots of there's lots of dads who sit there
in their in their comp seats and grumble about the

(30:49):
coach being an idiot. The front office guy's not getting
it and their their their kids getting screwed. The difference
here is we and the media have decided to give
LaVar ball voice Fox Sports one, putting him on TV,
ESPN putting them on TV, and so that's made his
voice more prominent. And you know, when you do that,
there there's much greater ramifications for what you say. Now

(31:13):
what you say gets broadcast worldwide, and we're left to
react to him. And that's I guess if you saw
that coming, congratulations to you. I didn't because I always
took him as, Hey, he's just a dad. He's just
another loudmouth dad, one to which there are thousands of
in the basketball world. All right, now you say that,
and this is where we're gonna make more money because
we had our idea yesterday on competitive eating, on on

(31:35):
making that a big deal. Right here, here's my idea.
The TV show is basketball Dad's right, here's the show.
So you get the big loudmouth basketball because you know,
you have basketball Wives of Orange County is a big
show and all this and you know, all all the
all the different shows out there, they're all about women
and basketball wives and where you know, and it's great,

(31:56):
but you have a basketball dad show, and what it
is is you get a bunch of dads. You get
LaVar Ball's dad, you get the Aaron Fox's dad, whoever.
It is the dads that like to to have a
little bit of the limelight, and you put them together
and the show is the lead up to their sons
playing against each other in a game. And it's like
a couple of days leading up. You learn about their

(32:17):
lives and everything, and you hear more big smack talk
from LaVar and everything back and forth, and and then
the crux of the show, like the last act of
the show is them watching the game their sons are
playing against each other together and you put that out
there and that's the show. Basketball Dads. NBA, Well, you
can't say NBA because that a b copyright, So you
just do Basketball Dads and that's the show. Like four

(32:37):
or five basketball Dads the show is on. Maybe I
know you get like six episodes out of un So
I had a similar idea and I'll share with you now.
You call it Prodigy, And basically it's the idea of
the sports that the sports kid and the sports dad
and you follow them around from different different sports and

(32:58):
you just be amazed at how there's dads that try
and live vicariously through their kids. There's dads who try
and just open doors for their kids. Having a camera
on a dad while a kid is performing is look
watching your kid play sports big. It's really it's it's
an incredible experience. It's really because you want to You
just want them to succeed. Sometimes you actually want them

(33:20):
to fail a little bit to see what they do.
I tell the story I told a story about speaking engagement.
Um My son wrestled a little bit when he was
in Connecticut, and the greatest moment parenting that I've had
is he got He won a beginner tournament. So the
next tournament was and they moved him up to like intermediately,
and um, first his first match, he's he got gets delayed.

(33:44):
Those things. If you ever been a wrestling tournament takes forever.
Little kids everywhere and they're working on their moves on
the mat. Super cute, but there's just a smartest border
people and it's loud, and you're trying to pay attention
to your kid. The Undertaker comes in so it's actually
real wresting. So he gets pinned in eight seconds. Wow,
eight seconds. I mean what I was from filming it.

(34:06):
I'm like, wait, what what? What? What just happened? My kid?
And so um, you know the thing I like the
best about the sport is you go over and you
shake the kid's hand and you shake the coach's hand
of the kid who just beat you, like he just
beat you in eight seconds, and then his whole wrestling
group is celebrated and they're like, eight seconds, that was awesome.

(34:27):
Never happened. You know? My kid? It was six or
seven at the time, and he feels off. He's crying
and he's trying to keep it, you know, stiff upper lip,
and so I go over and I hug him and
I said, you want to watch it, you want to
see what you did. And he watched it with his
coach and then you're not like done. You have like
a flight. You have it's like a pool play, right.

(34:49):
So he's another one, and it was probably against kid
that was better. He just wasn't screwing around, thought he
was all slick, and he ends up winning that match
and then he lost in a really competitive match. And
the third one could won. The little flight could have
won the tournament out of it. The point is, sometimes
you want your kids fit like I by how I
parent like I. I. Sometimes I want my kid to fail.
I don't want to fail so miserably that he doesn't

(35:10):
get another opportunity, but I do want to fail a
little bit to see does he have excuse my language,
the nuts to step back up and get back into
the plate, because that's kind of what life. There's the
analogy to life. But I agree with you. Basketball dad's,
basketball dad's I would say, are the worst. But I
think that if you, if you listen, if we took calls,
they'd say, no, dude, baseball Dad's the worst. No dude, Uh,

(35:32):
football Dad's the worst. And I don't think kids have
changed that much. I think parents have changed a lot more.
And I think it's because the parents believe they know
what's at stake financially life changing, uh life changing money.
Had generational wealth and you put a bunch of money

(35:54):
out there, and this is what changes people's behavior, even
just the idea of getting a scholars ship. Like I,
kids have always wanted more, wanted freedom, wanted to try things,
push the envelope. That stuff hadn't changed. None of that.
The parents have changed and love LaVar Ball is a
perfect embodied admit of that he's trying to be a
Kardashian and the Kardashian thing. It only worked once. I'm

(36:19):
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Dan Nettes today all week long, My show herd nights
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three during the day. And you know, yesterday we talked
about this beginning of the show. You thought, like the
sports world, you had had a whiff a swing in

(37:40):
a miss yesterday with stuff going on the biggest story
outside of the hot dog eating contest, which we can
get into a little bit nimbit, because you know, like
I told you yesterday, the biggest thing was always seeing
that the resumes of the people who are who are
going to be competing. Was the Nationals lost yesterday to
fall one game under five hundred. This is a team
that Perennial lee Is said as well. And of course

(38:02):
the Nationals when you talk about World Series contenders, the
Astros the top of the Nationals. They've been in this
conversation now for the past five years, every year and
now they have a closed door meeting because they're playing poorly.
And Bryce Harper said following the meeting, Hey, you know,
every year we've been running away with a division, which
is not true, but every year running away. This year
we're struggling more. It's exciting. I like to see how

(38:24):
our team responds to this. But here are the Nationals
as we get to fourth of July. It's a great
benchmark day in Major League Baseball. Like you know, like
you like Sinco de Mayo being your big benchmark day.
Where do you want to go to Mayo? Where are
you on the fourth of July. And the bottom line is,
here are the Nationals the fourth of July, and they
sit under five hundred, and they are seven games back

(38:44):
of two rapidly improving teams in Atlanta and Philadelphia. They've
lost seventeen or last two games. They're they're playing poorly.
I don't even think the Mets have done that. Well
maybe we have, uh we Oh the emotional investment I
put in the Metsia, I can say, wait and see
we not we unless you've been to training camp and
you've been I'm not a not a wee guy when

(39:05):
you're a fan. Um. I look at the Nationals and
I see Hallie Berry. I like this, Okay, I like
anybody disputed. Halle Berry is beautiful. She's got her skin
is like cream, you want to eat it. So, she
has great hair. She has a great way about her.

(39:27):
Now again I don't know her as a person, but
she just has this way. Anytime she's interviewed, she's like, wow,
she is a beautiful, wonderful, smart woman. It's like she
has trouble putting together sentence right. And yet Halle Berry
has married, divorced three times. And I understand divorce does
happen Okay, Like, look, it happens, but it feels like

(39:48):
it should that Hallie Berry should be happier in her
personal life. Right, there's just something there that's a miss.
I can't put my finger on it, but something about
Hallie Berry. She's not she's not in she she doesn't
have to be the greatest actress in the world. But hell,
the Rock is in the best acting world and he's
in everything. I just saw an advertisement outside. He's in

(40:08):
a new movie sky It's like new movie Skyscraper. That's
gonna be terrible. It's gonna make a bunch of money.
And somehow The Rock will not receive any criticism for
the fact that he was probably really stiff and acting
like he just it's amazing. I think it's actually just
outtakes from San Andreas that they put together. Hey, we'll
make this a movie, right, and we're gonna string it together. Yes.
Um So, although the new Jumanji was Jumanji was very good,

(40:31):
very underrated. Yeah, I don't know, it was very good,
but it was under It was having no expectations and
it being okay, there you go, Okay, that's fair. It's
like when Terrell Prior played quarterback for the Raiders. Right,
he wasn't actually good, but he didn't line up under
he didn't line up under the guard, and he lined
up under center, and they actually won a couple of games.
That's how I look at it. So, so the thing

(40:53):
that's the Nationals are the same thing they have masters
are is a first ballot Hall of Famer. You win
three Cy Youngs and one in each league, your first
ball Hall of Famer. And Max Scherzer has been really
good this year. The rest of pitching staff not great,
but good. Um, remember your it's not just that they've

(41:14):
lost seventeen of twenty two. Major League Baseball is going
through the same thing that the NBA is going through,
where you have half the teams in each league are
trying to be bad. They're trying to copy the Astros
and tank and so to lose all these games when
you're completely invested in winning and look, you wanna tell
me their lineup is not the same. Fine, you wanna
tell me Bryce Harper is not performing up to his level, Fine,

(41:34):
all that great, But losing seventeen and twenty two, being
below five when you're more than halfway statistically through the season,
it's just something not right there. There's something amiss with
this team that they haven't been able to fix. And
it's the same it's got to be the same reason
that halle Berry isn't in more top level movies and
doesn't appear to be super happy in life. So this
part that, this is the this is the Rick Flair

(41:55):
Halleberry rumor part of the national season in which here
they are game under five having a meeting. This is
that way, Wait, gay halle Berry and Rick Flair hooked up.
That that's this part of that. That's the story where
it doesn't make sense. You're trying to explain it all. Uh, yeah,
basically I'll go I'll go one step further for you here,
and no, you're right. Their lineup is not what it was.

(42:16):
Their window is closed. Their window to win is close
because it's to three years ago. Their line up. It
was an all star lineup. It was point one through eight.
Look at these guys, they got stars everywhere. Here comes
straight Turner, He's gonna be terrific at all guys to
the pipeline. Then yet injuries, guys leaving, and now the
window was closed. Bryce Harper is gonna be a free agent?
Is he really gonna go for ten years and three

(42:36):
when he can go ten years and three million in
many places. Is he gonna do it here in Washington
where they're on the downside now and you have to
build around him? And oh, by the way, you haven't
really been paying him, so now you gotta pay other
guys to keep the team. Is good with Bryce Harper.
He's gone from Washington. It will be a new team
in Washington. The era of the Nationals is gonna be over.
So well, I'm gonna disagree with in terms of the

(42:59):
era of the Nationals. The first part is I don't
understand how baseball is going to march into another bad contract.
I mean, you gotta explain to me the Bryce Harper thing.
I'm not saying Bryce Harper is not good and he's
obviously having a disappointing season. You can tell me that
it's the pressure of of where he is. Uh, but
you know, look, two of the last three years, Bryce

(43:21):
Harper hasn't had great seasons. He just hasn't. You know.
You go back to two thousand sixteen and he had
to forty three's on base, uh, seven percent of the time,
you know, one point six war you know, last year
he was outstanding. In two thousand fifteen, he was incredible.
We'll have more on Bryce Harper coming up next. We'll
get into more of the Bryce Harper aspect of it

(43:41):
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(45:12):
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(45:34):
live from Mercedes Bench Studio, Mercedes. Ben's the best or Nothing,
and yet is the fifth of July. Coming off of
the sports day yesterday, a little bit to be desired.
Let's just say we're in a downtime in between games
and the World Cup, the big headlines yesterday, or you know,
Callen wilsony Aki is upset at Wimbledon. We have some

(45:55):
big time trade NBA trade possibilities coming your way in
a minute. But to finish the conversation we had about
Bryce Harper, certainly yesterday that was one of the big
topics of the day. Following the National's loss. They dropped
under five hundred there now really looking up at both
the Phillies and the Braves were at fourth of July,
a big benchmark day in Major League Baseball in which

(46:17):
they are incredibly underachieving. We talked about their window being
closed and and and potentially this could be it for
the national especially if Bryce Harper winds up going somewhere
after the season. This conversation you and I started to
get into a few minutes ago. Uh, you know, we
got to the Nationals part of it. But now the
Bryce Harper thing, this is where things are gonna get
interesting because he's not playing well. Scott Boris's agent said

(46:40):
a day ago, Hey, the struggles don't have to do
with his contract. He's just you know, he's just just
having you know, it's just one of those things he's
working through and it doesn't have to do with his
impending free agency's doing to That's baseball thing. Yeah, that's baseball,
which I know you love. That's baseball baseball. How did
Matt kemp go from being expected to be out of
the league by mid season to being a nationally he
VP candidate. They small, That's how you can explain a

(47:02):
lot of things that way in life, just by saying
that spaceball, How do you forget to take the garbage
out when you said you were gonna put and take
it out, you put it right next to the door.
You walked around it, and you got in your car
and left. Honey, that's baseball. How do you how do
you leave the gas grill on at not overnight? Honey?
That that that's baseball. Did you do that yesterday? I

(47:25):
did not. I have. I have tended to do it.
There's a logic behind it. Like a lot of times,
I like things, you know, medium, rare ish, you know.
I like things, especially steaks, even even I like to
even sear my seafood that I cook on a grill
by by fish. I cook on a grill, right, and
my my family generally likes a little bit more cooked.

(47:47):
And so I have a tendency to leave the grill
on after I take things off, just in case somebody
wants it thrown back on, because you can't restart the
grill right. So sometimes I go inside I forget that
I left the grill on. Then I get chastise, to
which I respond, I like that. That can that can
get I don't know if it'll get you out of
a lot of things, because eventually I think if you

(48:07):
run it too many times, and I know in my
outside I could probably say that like six times a day.
My wife would just to throw her hands up and
walk away and say, Okay, that's it. That's it. I
I can't take this anymore. I can't take you saying
that's baseball. I guess the question becomes this with with
Rice Harper. I think the Gnats are going to do
to Bryce Harper what the St. Louis Cardinals did to

(48:27):
our Pools. And I understand that our Pools was far
more accomplished than Bryce Harper. Us at a different stage
in his career than Bryce Harper. The Bryce Harper is
only six years old, so a ten year contract taking
the thirty six. I think they're gonna do what's smart.
I just wish that somebody else would do the same,
which is they're gonna off from a really good contract
knowing he's going to get a better contract offer elsewhere.
I just I don't see the logic in the perfect

(48:50):
example of of Bryce Harper's awesomeness not paying off for
the team. It doesn't even even even Mike Trout, who
I is the best player in baseball, Like Mike Trout's
having historically great season. The Angels are like five hundreds, right,
Bryce Harper is not having a great season, but they're
basically five hundred. They haven't done any The Nationals haven't

(49:12):
done anything because of or in spite of. It takes
a volume of players, volume of pictures. That's what it
takes to win. And if you're going to sign somebody
to a three D four hundred plus million dollar contract,
that's gonna cut out out of the potential volume. The
way you win in with baseball is get as many
good players under an under club control and that first

(49:33):
six years of their deal, and then move on from
them when they when when they get overpriced. I don't
I don't understand the logic in like, yeah, you know
what other guys have gotten three hundred, he's getting four hundred.
Why that's baseball. See. I would bring the NBA to
Major League basis. That's why I would be a great
New Age MLB GM because my philosophy would be, I'm
not paying anybody long term. I wouldn't pay I sure

(49:56):
as hell wouldn't pay for pitching. I wouldn't give any
any picture wants to walk in and go well, we're
thinking four years. Okay, uh, sorry, thanks for coming in,
appreciate it. I'm gonna have Mona validate your parking whatever. Here,
here's a coupon to have something of the Diamond vision. Uh,
lounge down here, you're gone. I'm not gonna pay anybody
long term because it never works out. Every single large

(50:18):
pitching contract in the history of baseball has not working
out for almost half of it. Okay, well, sure there's
working out. Well, Lander's starting to work back, working back.
Guys whose career you can look back and say, Okay,
how did that contract workout? Guys whose contracts have ended,
I generally believe you're right. Okay, generally, but that's not always.

(50:39):
There have been some contracts to which, like like Justin
Berr Lander worth every penny, but he had a he
had a big wide swath of being down until he
absolutely did no question. But Justin vir Lander and Max
Scherzer would be like, yeah, they're with the money. Yeah,
all right, so let's see how the rest of their
careers go and where where these careers end. But the

(51:02):
vast majority of and and look everyone that's been completed,
you could say, boy, that really wasn't worth it, and
the Angels are gonna go, Man, the end of this
poolholes contract. This is gonna be really, really difficult. Even
the Yankees with a rod at the end, and they
only went Look how bad that was. That was only
a year and a half of bad stuff they went
through with Alex Rodriguez. But I'll give you what you
want short term. I'll give you you want to Kevin

(51:23):
Durant one and one that kind of deal. Absolutely want
thirty million dollars for next year. I'll give you thirty
million dollars. You want thirty million dollars next year and
then maybe you know, thirty one million year after that. Sure,
but then that's it because I got to be able
to move on if it doesn't work out, I'll pay you,
but i'll pay you very short term. The problem is
that there seems to always be a team that will

(51:44):
give more years, and more years is more money and
more security, and you know, more to the agent as well.
And I'm with you. You know, signed guys to thirty
forty million dollar contracts for a year, I got no
problem two years. I got no problem with that. Put
him back on the free agent market. What's interesting about
free agency market? Is look at how bad it was
to guys who were plus thirty this offseason. Guys aren't

(52:06):
even in baseball anymore, or how to take pennies on
the dollar and so and and On the same hand,
we're gonna sit there and go like, well, yeah, but
Bryce Harper is different. Like why he's twenty six now
not having a great year. Even if he has four
spectacular years, you know, or five spectaculars last five years
of the deal, you know you're gonna start to see
to some diminishing returns. Why base you start to you know,

(52:28):
he started to struggle to keep up with a fastball.
He started to playing a hundred six two games. Where's
you down? I'm just fascinated by the um the fact
that history is going to repeat itself. He's going to
sign a huge deal, and no one lives up to
these huge deals. It seems like, I know there are exceptions.
Uh it's actually there are fewer exceptions in with hitters

(52:51):
and there are with pictures. Like I feel like pictures
it's about doesn't work out seventy does with hitters. It
feels like eighty to twenty or eighty five to fifteen,
it doesn't work out. To work out with the long term,
eight to ten year deals, and it should work out
for them because these are guys that don't have to
worry about injury as much. You don't have guys going

(53:13):
out there like Bryce Harper is never gonna go out
there and you're gonna say this could be his last pitch,
This could be his last at bat, But you think
that way with pictures. This could be. Every time Clayton
kershar goes out to pitch for the Dodgers, they hold
their breath. Is he gonna get out of this? Okay,
how's this back going to be? Look, he's thirty years
old with back problems. This is not gonna end well.
He's coming up for another contract and they're gonna pay him,

(53:33):
and they're gonna give him a ton of money, and
you're gonna go, oh man, the end of this curseh
Ow deal is just killing us. It's just absolutely killing us,
and we can't move on from it. But everyday players
are the guys, Hey, okay, this is gonna work out.
This is gonna work out because they these are the
guys you pay because they play a hundred hundred forty
five days a year. They'll take about fifteen days off,
you know, a couple of nagging injuries or days off

(53:54):
they need, you know, maintenance days. Let's just say. And
it's still you find go what why they stopped hitting? What? What?
You know? It's nice if they you know, hey, they're
still hitting to seventy five and hitting you know, twenty
four home runs and knocking in eighty five runs. But
you know, when you get paid thirty million dollars year,
it's you're supposed to hit three thirty knock you know,
hit forty home runs and not get twenty five. Then

(54:16):
we're getting our money's worth. So okay, but even if
they come down a little bit, it shows you how
much it's not worth it. But you can't. You can't
pay thirty five million dollars and you're thirty million dollars
for a guy that's gonna go it's gonna slash two
seventy and ninety five. That's the guy you give all right, Hey,
I'll give you a ten or twelve million dollars a
year because that's what's gonna be worth it. Jason Smith
got leaving for Dan and the Da Nettes. So look

(54:39):
at the end of it, the gnats are below five.
They've lost seventeen or less twenty two games, and they
had the dreaded players only meeting, like I guess, well,
I guess we'll see. Look, i'd be gloom and doom,
but I've seen the Dodgers turn their season around in
a heartbeat. And I look around and I do realize
that half the teams in National League A trying to

(55:00):
be bad. And so I don't think that you you
you uh, you canceled the season. I think the Nats
still have This is why this that second wild card
spot was created for teams like the Nationals. They can
find a way to creep in. I mean, well, you
want talking about being upset and being angry, there's there's
Nationals closed door meeting upset and then they're clearly what
is the best visual of the day from yesterday, Well

(55:22):
outside of Joey chest not shoving seventy four hot dogs
into his mouth, and that is Carlos Gomez of the
Rays who struck out during Tampa Bay's three nothing lost
of the Marlins, and oh, by the way, Tampa Bay
and the Marlins. While I'll tell you what, that's the
game I wanted. How would you like to try and
give away to be a secondary ticket brugger for that one.
I got Marlins Raise second level. What are you gonna

(55:43):
give me for him? Like? How much? Honestly, here's a question.
How much money would somebody have to pay you to
go see Raise Marlins? If you hm so that, oh
pay me. See I'm just thinking if you gave me,
if you gave if you gave me the tickets for
free that are close to the field, if you gave

(56:04):
me tickets like behind the dug out. But I get
do geta do I get used to? Like? Do they
like Alexis Lounge there where I can have the free
drinks and the free food? Oh? Sure, they coming to
their service. You're taken care of. You get part. You're
not gonna shell out a dollar. You're not gonna sholl
You're gonna have a great experience. You're gonna get the
waiters coming to see you. And you're right behind the
dugout and and parking. You're not gonna then I would

(56:25):
go that Wo don't have to pay me to go.
But if you experience, that's a maybe. Really that's hi me, Wow,
you drive a harder part. You should be an agent.
That's I'm just being realistic, being realistic. You know. Book
Shambie's a great friend of mine. He's calling the games
this weekend, the Angels, Angels Dodgers games, and he's like,
you're coming, He's gonna come ahead, get get some food tonight,

(56:47):
Like you're coming to the games. And I was like,
I gotta see if I get some good seats lounge.
Why don't you like the Angels? Yeah, don't like Dodgers? Yeah?
Would you come to the game, Like, I don't know?
That's Angels Dodger Okay, that's that's the best player in
baseball against one of the best teams in baseball. And
it's fifteen minutes from my house, and I would I

(57:09):
if I had parking, if I had Lexis, then I
would is pretty good. It is pretty good, pretty pretty good,
no question. But honestly, that's probably the only way I'll
go to the game. You gave me second level tickets
this zero chance, third level, no chance, none, none, don't
even ask. That's great. Wouldn't upper deck reserves? Oh never mind,

(57:35):
never mind, we're not We're not gonna do that. Okay,
that's fine, I wouldn't do it. What if what if
you got a hotel in an Uber. I wouldn't need
a hotel. I'll be staying right outside the stadium. It's
a night game. You're there after, you're partying in the lounge.
It's Miami, you know, or it's Anaheim. Sorry, and you
know you're hanging out. You go, you're going, You're going
to the Orange Grove. You're going. You know, I would
use the hotel in Uber maybe maybe, but again, now

(57:58):
you're like, now you're getting to what you're paying me, Okay,
all right on the fourth you're trying to get what
it's gonna get you to get to a game. See,
you take care of me for the experience for Marlin's race.
So Cargo, you mentioned Cargo. What do you do? So
he strikes out and then walks into the dugout and
takes better swings the water cooler than he did during
his at bat, and that you hear you thinks Gomez

(58:22):
absolutely losing it in the dugout. I always got store knuckles.
On the other hand, that is a water cooler dugout
melt down. That is a look the Carlos Perez video
of dugout meltdowns. When you're batting around a Gatorade water

(58:46):
cooler with a bat. That's the gold standard. This is
really close because he is beating the absolute crap out
of this cooler with swing after swing after swinging, continues
on after that. Now that's a meltdown. Now that's frustration.
That's I mean, maybe it's because you know, on the
fourth of July instead of being at a party, you're
you know, you're you're playing against the Marlins. But that

(59:06):
is that is anger, that is it's also the it's
also the visual of he's hitting this Gatorade uh, Gatorade
or Gatorade cooler and it's spraying the water upwards. Um.
I noticed a couple of things. I like how his
hips are turning. He's really putting some force into it.
Have you noticed the launch angle? Right? If this, if
this exact same thing happened ten years ago, right, he

(59:29):
would be chopping down more into the Gatorade jug now
because home runs are in strikehouse raine as well his
launch angle, he's hitting with much more of an uppercut.
That that's what I noticed this. I like that, you
know what I noticed this one. I would say if
I'm gator and I would go, hey, this is a
commercial endorsement for us. This is where we go. Hey, Gatorade,

(59:49):
the strongest water cooler. You'll never have to replace your
Gatorade cooler. And I would show this with a bunch
of other ones and players be because nothing ever happens
to the cooler. The cooler looks exactly the same as
it as it does afterwards, maybe because godn know, maybe
they superline it with steel or something. But that that
that's a commercial. That's the way to make money. Hey,
Gator strongest cooler out there, and boom flying off the shelves.

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Here's what I want to get to coming up next. Okay, Um,
last week or maybe the weekend was won by the Lakers, right,
Lebron James. Right, they got Lebron James. Right. It's like
an NBA draft. People always ask who won the NBA Draft?
Who got the best player? That's who won the draft? Right?
All Right? It feels like they've taken a bunch of

(01:00:34):
l's ever since, doesn't it. All Right, here's so you
got the Alonzo thing, you got Lebron hasn't spoken to
Luke thing, and now you have Damian Lillard's tweet about
potentially joining the Lakers thing. I gotta get the kind
of all right, now that the dust is sort of settling,

(01:00:55):
is it being ruffled up again? I want to get
into all things, all things Lakers, because this is what
started as an absolute win. Lebron in town has been
has been. The enthusiasm has been tempered a great deal
because there's so much stuff having to deal with building
this new super team. We'll get into the clown car

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Best or Nothing. Well, there's been no bigger interview this
week than when we had Kobe Bryant on earlier in
the week. Hopefully that's up there on the app because
you know, look, Kobe Bryant weighing in on on Lebron James.
That was really the peak of how good things were
for the Lakers. As you mentioned a few minutes ago,
they they kind of hit their peak. Lebron James signs.
Kobe Bryant comes on the show with us, you know

(01:02:37):
he did, he was on TV as well, but radio wise,
he did our show, did us UM earlier in the week,
and he was like, I love Lebron, we talk. This
is a great moment. I believe purple and gold. You
put that armor on and everything changes. I'll let him
use the mamba chopper, all of those things. And then
since then it's been like the Lakers got to the
top of the mountain and just started sliding down the

(01:02:58):
other side and there seemed to be no end in sight. Yeah,
I mean, I guess the first thing is the Kauai thing.
It's we're still in a holding pattern. And we talked
about it yesterday with the Spurs asking UH for you know,
just a ridiculous bounty in return, asking for a UH
offer they can't refuse, to which the Lakers have in

(01:03:18):
fact refused it um. And then you have the Sixers,
maybe the Celtics, although the Celtics apparently he has said
there's five untouchable players, the five good ones on the Celtics,
and so we'll just kind of wait and see on Kauai.
But you have the Alonzo Ball stuff, to which the Lakers,
through Adrian Warznowski's podcast, Lakers, believe that LaVar Ball and

(01:03:42):
the Ball family leaked out that Alonzo Ball had a
had a miniscal tear and in an effort to not
get him traded. Then you have Damian Lillard being asked
a question about potentially being a Laker, would you be
happy to play with Lebron? And he tweets back, Uh
quotes the tweet into eats back, I'm typically a happy camper,

(01:04:02):
leading maybe many of us to try and decipher what
he means. And then you have the report that um,
Lebron hasn't has has had zero contact with Luke Walton,
zero zero. So we're told Lebron James has had more
contact with Cedric Sabalos about wearing his number twenty three jersey,

(01:04:27):
then he has about his current head coach, Luke Walton.
There's some stuff going on in l A that would
be accurate, that would that would be accurate. See this
is when when when you when you tear it all down.
Why I don't have confidence in the Lakers that they're
going to make the right moves front office wise to succeed,
because you can talk about all getting Lebron. Lebron wanted

(01:04:47):
to come here. He wanted to come to the Lakers.
He wanted to come to Los Angeles. This is what
he wanted to do, regardless as a situation of the
front office, this is what he wanted to do. Now
the Lakers are hanging their hat on that, and certainly, yes,
you got him to come in and that's awesome, but
everything else is what you could classify as boy They
this is this is an epic fail. This is an

(01:05:08):
epic fail. They can't control the Lonzo ball situation. They
can't control Paul George not coming to the Lakers. They
can't control not getting him an offer. They are gonna
wind up biffing the Kawhi Leonard situation to the point
where they're gonna back off of negotiations because if it
really gets down to it, and their palms get sweaty
because the Spurs say, what what did you say? Was
gonna wind up in yesterday? Ingram and ingram Um Josh

(01:05:32):
Hart and and a pick which would be palatable to
get Kawhi Leonard. Absolutely, but when it comes down to it,
their palms are gonna get sweaty and they're gonna say,
you know Ingram made strides from year one to year too,
even though his player efficiency rating was still below league standard,
he made strides. Yeah, we like him, him and Jason.
You know what, Kauai is just gonna come to us
anyway next year, so you know, yeah, you know, we're

(01:05:53):
gonna back off and we're gonna see what we have. Now.
That's how the Lakers are gonna do it, and they're
gonna risk Kauai Leonard getting traded to the Clippers, are
going someplace else, him liking it, maybe not going there.
You're starting to hear stories now that maybe playing with
Lebron James might not be something he wants to do,
or if he could be getting cold feet. You don't
know what to believe what not to, but certainly we
saw it with Paul George. He was supposed to walk

(01:06:16):
through the door, but he went to Oklahoma City. He
liked it for whatever reason, didn't want to go to
the Lakers. And now the Lakers are going Okay, now
we gotta still have to worry about getting our next guy,
and they're gonna wind up doing the same thing with
Kawhi Leonard. Yeah, I don't. I think it's a completely
different deal. Next summer. Paul George and Lebron James were
essentially the only two max player free agents available this year. Okay,

(01:06:41):
next year it's I mean Kevin Durant could have been
Next year, Kevin Durand be free agent. Play Toms would
be free agent. Tramond Green's a free agent. I mean
Butler is a free agent. Are yourving is a free agent? Um,
Kawhi Leonard could be a free agent like you go through.
I think Kemba Walker would be a free agent in
as well. Like there is. It will be an unbelievable

(01:07:04):
list of free agents and team. Remember teams two years ago,
they spent poorly. You know, they got they were like
they were like most of us as Americans. You know,
they got a little extra in their paycheck and they
went out and spent it as quick as they could.
They just did. They had new money and they had
to spend it. It was burned a hole in their pocket.
And so they have bad deals and some of those
deals are gonna begin to go away or get traded away.

(01:07:27):
So I think it's do they want Kawhi letterd. Yeah,
I think they'll probably make a trade for Kawhi Leonard
and but I I just don't think they're going to
massively overpay because if you have to learn from the
knicks of the past, and and frankly you'll learned from
the thunder, right, Like, yeah, the thunder got Paul George, congrats,

(01:07:49):
patients got the better that trade they just did. Uh,
it's more physically responsible, and they got you know, a
starter and a half, probably two starters long term futures
opposed to one that was that was the better trade.
So I I look at it, and I think it's
going to be different next year, even if I still
believe the Lakers trap for Kauai. All right, let's imagine
this part of it here for a second, because Chris

(01:08:09):
Sheridan was the one who actually first came out with
the rumors the Lakers were looking at making a big trade. Certainly,
Damian Lillard uh threw it out there through little gasoline
on the fire with his tweet. But Chris Sheridan reports
about a few hours ago number of trade options being
considered by the Lakers. Names that are being bandied about
include Damian Lillard, Kevin Love, Demard de Rosen, Bradley Beale,

(01:08:33):
and John Wall, among others. So the two cornerstones of
the Wizard's franchise right now DeRozan, Kevin Love, Damian Lillard.
Which of those guys is the best fit for the Lakers?
Because to meet Damian Lillard stands out because he's exactly
what they would need. I mean, not not County. All right,
you have Alonzo, you have all the stuff, but Damian
Lillard is a guy who has gotten it done. I

(01:08:55):
get to see a lot of him because being on
at night, could see a lot of the West Coast
games and the Blazers, and he makes big shots and
the Lakers need guys that can make shots. He's done it,
He's done in the playoffs. He's the guy out of
everybody on this list up until this year, I would say, hey,
DeMar de Rosen, but you know, he really let me
down to the playoffs, really really let me down. But
Lillard's a guy who you know can come here and

(01:09:15):
come to Los Angeles and really fill that huge void
that the Lakers have Right now, who's that guy that's
gonna play with Lebron? Look, I think he could be
valuable with Lebron. Lillard is not perfect. He's a tremendous shooter. Um,
and he doesn't have to be really a point guard
with with Lebron, which is great because though he brings
the ball up, it's not like he's a creative playmaker.

(01:09:37):
He's not a great finisher. Um, he's not a great defender. Uh,
that hasn't shown. He's a little bit like a little
bit like Carrie Irving is that he's not ever before Lebron,
he's never shown a great attention to detail in playing defense.
So UM, I don't know. I think it's gonna be
really really interesting to see what happens. I just it's
amazing that the Lakers, whatever their plan, A, plan B,

(01:10:00):
plan C is. I don't think that Lonzo's camp leaking
out that he added to or meniscus. I don't think that,
you know, preparing yourself for Twitter conversations about where players
are gonna go, that's the hard thing to prepare yourself
for that. Now we gotta like, all right, well, how
are we gonna handle it? When social media starts talking
about trades that have not yet been proposed. I got

(01:10:20):
I gotta think at least that they're on Plan B.
There's no way that what they're doing right now is
Plan A. There's no way Plan A. Was Lebron and
Land Stevenson, JaVale McGee there at least on Plan B,
maybe Plan C. I gotta think they're on there. Okay, well,
you know, here's our thing, and if we get down
to it. But I think they're at that point where, boy,
we're down to it. We didn't think we'd be at

(01:10:41):
this point because we thought, hey, Lebron is gonna come
and Paul George will come in a Suddenly it's gonna be,
you know, the merry band of the Lakers, and we're
gonna suddenly all team up and everything is great. But
I gotta think at least there on be maybe Plan
C UM maybe Yeah, Like I think Paul George coming,
Paul George coming with Lebron was their original Plan A.

(01:11:03):
I think they had begun to nudge off of Plan
A in the three weeks leading up to it. I
really do um and so Kauai, the possibility of Kawhi Leonard.
I think is their plan A, and I think they
have to work through the two different you know, two
different types of plan A this year or next year.
And if it's this year, what do they have to

(01:11:23):
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Dante One. That's at Dante one. Dante Jones joins us,
how's it going good? How you guys doing good? Dude?
What do you think we got it? Now? We we
pass free agency, we're talking trade rumors now. This is
the best part, actually the best part of right. How
do you think it's going over in the Lakers front
offices that Lonzo balls Camp leaked out the information that

(01:12:07):
he might have a torminiscus um. I think it's unfortunate,
but I don't think that stops anything. A torminiscus is
nothing to to to be Um, it's not a negative
and injury where where you're going to spend that much
time off the court or he's still gonna start training
camp on time. So it's just unfortunate that, Um that

(01:12:29):
if that was a tactic used that that they would
try that, because it's just you're just trying to stop
the the the overall additions of the Laker at roster
and and you're trying to just keep yourself there rather
than do what's bets for the organization or or just
do whatever you can to to have your own push,
your own agenda. Can this work long term with where

(01:12:50):
things are at right now, because I look at it,
Dante and say, this is going to continue. Lebron's gonna
get upset that this whole circus cat and mouse thing
with Lonzo, his dad and his knee injury and all that,
and eventually they're gonna say we gotta trade him. That
could be at the end of this season. Yeah, I
think it works if Alonzo boz In and Alonzo starts

(01:13:11):
to learn and try to be the best teammate he
can and try to work under under Lebron. I think
he can work in that capacity. If the show keeps
going in the direction, I think they move up off
of Alonso and try to find a different option and
a better option to keep the team more focused. There's
there's a lot of things coming out of San Antonio.
They're asking for kind of ridiculous bounty in return to

(01:13:33):
get Kauai Leonard, and then there's the latest story that
Kauai he might play for the Clippers instead of one
to play for the Lakers because of everything that that
follows when you play with Lebron James team, do you
believe that to be accurate? Um? From from what I'm
hearing is that he just wants to be a Laker
and and he wants to be a Laker and he

(01:13:55):
doesn't have a problem playing with Lebron James. And Lebron
James is um a winner and that's what he's about.
He doesn't worry about the media and all the tension,
all the things that come with it. He just wants
to win, and he wants to win another championship. And
he and he has a lot of respect for Lebron James.
Now you play with both Lebron and Paul George, and
what since we're talking Lebron will stick with him right now?
What what what is his what do you what's his

(01:14:18):
takeaway now? Seeing all right, I'm signed with the Lakers
and here's a team that's around. We've got Land Stevenson,
all the moves have been funneled through him. Is Lebron
happy at this point? Is he at the point where
it's we'll see what we can get? Where is he?
I think he's happy because this is a reminiscent of
the two thousand fourteen fift team Cleveland Cavalier team where
when he signed the roster wasn't wasn't complete. It took

(01:14:41):
some moves to get it to where it needed to be,
took some tweaks to get it to where it needed
to be. Um, they got J R. Smith and Amman
Sheppard to trade that line. I mean in the middle
of the season they got uh, Timothy Mobs got They
made some moves and adjust their their roster to what
they needed to to get to the finals. And I
think this is this miss roster has the same capability

(01:15:01):
to be able to adjustice so that they can be successful.
What about Paul George Um, why do you think he
ultimately decided to stay in Oklahoma City. I think we
I think most people miss judged the relationship to him
and Russell Westbrook had and he was stuck with the
decision that was that was he had two great options here.
He got to play next to two great basketball players

(01:15:24):
and two guys that that get other people involved, two
guys to score the high level, two guys that are
passionate about winning. And but one of the guys he
had a great relationship, he created a bond with. So
he went that direction. And I can respect that because
you you have to show up every day to work
and enjoy the people that you work with. I think
that's the best time you'll you'll have is when you

(01:15:44):
enjoy the guys you played next to and you can
find some uh some commonalities with how they attacked the
game and how they want to be successful. I think
he had that in Russell westbook. Usually I don't get
the Dante Dante Jones with us thirteen years in the league,
NBA champion former team in about Lebron of Paul George,
is it for his entire life? Paul George has said
how much he wanted to be a Laker. He wanted

(01:16:05):
to go. The Pacers didn't trade him. Mary had his
big reality show documenting his offseason, saying, Hey, I wanted
to go, they didn't trade for me. The guys wanted
to be a Laker his whole life. He could have
walked in. The Lakers would have given him whatever money
he wanted. It would have been fine. But one season
with Westbrook, Oklahoma City, and no, no, I love it
so much. I'm here and now I'm here for four

(01:16:25):
more years. I don't know how that that computes to me, that, Okay,
the guy wanted to be a Laker his whole life,
but after one season here yet now this is it,
and this is it for me for the next four seasons.
I think his eyes were open to an organization that
that does a great job in treating their players well,
that doesn't get a drive of of trying to move
in a forward direction winning Sam prestig it's awesome, um,

(01:16:47):
and then you have one of the best players in
the game playing next to you. He made that decision
basically without knowing that Lebron James was going to be
a Laker, and he had some things going in that
direction where he was he was comfortable, and it wasn't
a bad decision. It just was what some people wouldn't
have chosen. But he had two great options and he

(01:17:07):
just chose um the one that he was comfortable with,
and he had the most success with. What's your reaction
to Boogie Cousins going to the Warriors. Um, I think
it was the best for him because the market trunk
on him and the teams to had cap space did

(01:17:28):
not want his presence in the locker room or or
I'm sorry, I'll rephrase that. They were scared of his
presence in the locker room. They were scared of his injury,
and they were not willing to use their cap space
at this point in time for him because they didn't
know if he'd be able to play. When he'd be
able to play, some of those teams are trying to
win now, so UM he had he didn't have him

(01:17:52):
any options. I think when when he signed with Golden State,
he he forces himself to be in a winning mindset. Uh,
there's no more uses. He has to adjust. He has
to um find a way to play winning basketball. And
I think this is the best thing for him for
his personal career. For the NBA. It may not be

(01:18:12):
the best for the competitive balance, but it's the best
thing for DeMarcus cousins growth. And I think they'll put
him in a position where he has to sink or swim,
and I think this this would be good for him.
One thing though that hasn't been mentioned. If he is
part of one of their best lineups, that changes the
way they play, right, Like, I look, I know they
had ja and I know they had Javail, but the

(01:18:34):
their death lineup does not include a big guy. They
switch everything and that's and they spread you out. Offensively,
he can shoot threes, but defensively, it changes them dramatically.
Does it necessarily change them for the better defense? I see,
And I'm one of the people who is not really
sold on it making them this monster team because one

(01:18:55):
of the in my and my and the way I
view the game, one of the best senses their defense.
Hands down, they're they're one of the best defensive teams
because they can switch and guard all positions. But once
you put DeMarcus out there, he's not a guy that
you switch, and he's a guy that you put in
picking rolls and you're trying to attack him that way
to wear him down. So if we look at it.
If he's coming back and he's not a d percent

(01:19:17):
let's say he's about eighty. Defensively, he's not going to
be a juggernaut. And then offensively, he's a guy that
tends to pound the ball. He's not a ball mover.
He tends to get his shots by pounding, pounding, and
and mostly are there twos. So if he if he
has the ball his hands, that means K, D, Steph

(01:19:37):
and Clay don't. And it's really not that much ball movement.
He's not necessarily a pastor. Andrew Bogan when he was
playing the center, he was a pastor, he was a pastor.
And Milwaukee he was a pastor. And in Golden State.
So um, we have to see a lot of changes
in his game to assimilate to their style. And I
don't know if it's going to be able to happen.
NBA World Champion Dante One on Twitter. That's at Dante

(01:20:00):
on on Twitter dot d Jones thirteen years in the league.
DJ appreciated my friend. We'll talk soon. Thanks so much,
thank you. All Right, there we go a little bit
of Boogie Cousins and his fit in Golden State. You
know you and I talked a lot earlier this week
about yeah, okay, it could work, could also not work.
It's you know, it's everybody's afraid. But you know, there's

(01:20:20):
a lot more that goes into Boogie Cousins than just hey,
here you are. You're adding a guy to a team
and suddenly toda, h yeah. I mean I just think
people think you moved twenty five points over here, is
twenty five points there, and so ye points a game like, Yeah,
it doesn't actually work that way unless they're gonna play
with several different basketballs, unless he's magically gonna have his

(01:20:42):
Achilles tendon repaired. Unless uh, you know, suddenly he's become
gonna become a lith athletically defensively like he's been a
defensive liability. Now he's going to a team that plays
a completely different style. I I I don't understand the
freak out fact. I really don't understand the freak out
factory over Boogie Cousins. There's a reason he was available
at the at the pay rate. He was available for

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Gottlieb in for Dan, The Danettes, My show Herd nights
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Smack Damn in the middle of the day every single day.
And since we are here in the fifth of July,
looking back at yesterday, we had an idea for a
new television show that would really take off. Competitive eating show.

(01:22:29):
We believe would take it. Yes, well, if we believe
we take off, then it would take off. We just
need to talk to the right people. Where you take
competitive eaters and you have them on a contest and
they have to eat the food that the judges make
them eat like. It could be steak, it could be crickets,
and that's the show. Professional Leaders amateur readers, you can

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you do everything to do in the Food Network, which
is we have the champions come back and face off
against each other and spin that off, and then the
winner spins off into his own show and all this
kind of stuff. So now we get a whole chance
all surrounding it. But let's start with the show now.
After seeing the hot dog eating contest yesterday and seeing
some of the things that these guys eight when they're
going through the qualifications, you know, and this man is
now comes to us from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He owns the

(01:23:12):
world record. But one guy owned the world record for
eating eighty three slices of pizza in ten minutes, right,
ten in slices of pizza, eighty three slices in ten minutes.
How enticing is seeing a show involving people that could
eat just about anything, whether it's pizza, they saw Joey
chestnuts qualification. There's man versus food, which is not it's

(01:23:36):
not as much competitive eating, but he tries to eat
something huge at the end. Right there, there's there's that.
That's just one guy trying to eat a lot of
food in one sitting. Right, Um, no, no, I okay,
So anyway, you were saying about the show. I think
people get the premise of it right and now. But
the best part of Yester the hot dog eating contest,
which we'll we'll get to. I know you think it

(01:23:56):
was both gross and and and not gross at the
same time. But seeing all all the different things that
people have eatn when they're going through all the introductions, right,
all the champion things they've eaten. You know, one of
them owns the world record for chim churry, and and
one of them owns the world record for tapatillo sauce.
And they get to Joey Chestnut and they literally scroll
through like a hundred things. He owns the the world

(01:24:19):
record for it's foods. You would never think they would
have competitive eating contest for, but yet they do. Now
I want to see this on television, But at the
same time, I'd also like to see be able to
just throw some of this out for some of them.
Here here you go, jars of mayonnaise, Delhi mustard, how
many just line up? The line up the Deli mustard,
the Hindes, Delhi mustards across. How much bustard can you

(01:24:40):
eat in eight minutes? Can you eat? Is it is
it three bottles? Is it five bottles? Is it six bottles?
I think that's the show. I don't know if you
have a winner there, but but it's definitely a show. Well,
you you like the idea yesterday, Now you like the
idea food. I don't like the idea of eating mayonnaise. Well,
you don't have to do it. It's competitive eaters that
are doing it. Yeah, but now getting into the what

(01:25:01):
was the show that Joe Rogan had? Uh? Which is
fear factor? Now we're getting a little there's a little
fear factor to which, oh, we're not gonna dangle anybody
over a bridge and you know and drop them or whatever.
You know, they just saying crickets and mustard and mayonnaise,
and at some point to be lard and Chris go like,
we're just we're going down We're going down a path. Here,

(01:25:21):
we're getting a little bit off our path. So why
do you think your tease was? You think it looks
that idea looks even better today? Yes, because seeing the
the excitement again of the hot dog eating contest and
seeing it was the one sporting event yesterday that everybody
was talking about. They own the day they own every
fourth of July and you saw it, and he set

(01:25:42):
a world record, actually despite the fact they screwed up
the count of the count. I don't know how you
do it. They're taking hot dogs off the two plates
and oh, I missed the one plate. He was saying,
there's two plates. How do you how do you miss
the You're taking off on one of the plates. Set
a record. It's you can capitalize the summer. This is
a great time. Now you can have the hot dog
eating test, kick off the competitive gatings, you're doing the soccer,

(01:26:03):
you're doing the soccer thing. Talking about well, how many
times have we've been told Women's World Cup as well?
Like next year and after everyone Women's World Cup, Like, hey,
professional women's soccer right here, it comes here, it comes now.
MLS is doing very well, was doing very well. It
doesn't do well on tv UM. It does well because

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they get people in the stadiums and it's a good
it's a good summer event. The fact is the only
reason this wins is because it was the only thing
on and because it's the fourth of July, and because
it's Nathan's hot Dogs, it's on Coney Island, and because
of the announcers and how they build it up and
because of you know, Joey chest dot whatever, like this
is a little this is the this is a niche sport.

(01:26:46):
It's horse racing, has three races, competitive eating as one.
But you can have you can have July. Start Let's
start off by owning July. Let's start off with that
and see where it goes. Because now at the time
of the Sports Counter, if you start watching watching firework
shows were boring, imagine watching every weekend like what will
Joey chest do eat this week? Our show is a

(01:27:07):
niche show that would go on the food network, right,
one of those channels, sure, Cooking Network. But in terms
of it being building off of the brand of of
competitive eating, they've tried that. There's a reason you don't
know of any of these other events. It's because nobody
has the appetite nobody excuse the word, then nobody has
the appetite to see it again. But Doug, you like
this idea yesterday? Now you're backing away front. I like

(01:27:28):
the show for a cable show. Did you talk to
somebody and they said, no, we're not gonna get financing,
And now now you're backing away. I did not talk
to anybody. Okay, that's more your thing. You're sure. The financing,
you're sure, Okay, just making sure you're you know, you're
not backing away from it. Twitter out, how about a
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Whether you're back at work, hanging out at home hopefully
you are out of whatever food come or you were
in a day ago, if you were barbecuing or grilling,
because they are two different things, as what you mentioned yesterday.
You can barbecue, you can grill, but if you're grilling,
you're not barbecuing. I got that right, Have that right? Right? Uh? Yeah,
I guess yes, Okay, you can barbecue, but but grilling

(01:30:05):
is not barbecuing. You are grilling, yes, and even though
you don't technically have to have barbecue sauce to be barbecue. Really,
you don't have to. You can put a different sauce
on and still be barbecue. If you do ribs, if
you do dry, if you do cry rub ribs, you know,
I mean, if you if you it's it's it's in
the style of cooking. Throwing something on a grill is grilling.

(01:30:26):
Barbecuing is just that. Usually it has pork or beef,
some sort of ribs or a pulled pork element to it. Uh,
And it's just a different style of cooking. Um, some
of the same means. See, you're already coming around and
maybe being a judge on one our food network. I
had no problem with the show. You're just like trying
to start to make this competitive eating league into some
national pastime. And I was like, look, it had fourth July.

(01:30:49):
It's kind of run his course already. Although he still
watch it every fourth, it'sie. It did. It was a
lot like you described fireworks shows. You know. The only
difference is that he keeps pushing the number. What is
the he ate seventy four hot dogs? Right? What is
the number? What is what is the human capability? At
what point do you get capped out? It's like with
the hundred meter dash. You know, whoever you say bot

(01:31:10):
owns the world record? Does he still in the world record?
I don't know, um, And what is what is the
fastest time a human being can ever actually run? Right? Like?
We have not reached that. We keep evolving, getting better,
but there does come a point in time to which,
like the human body will never run fast in that.
That's what I think we're creeping up on with Joey Chestnutt.
There's a point, there's a point of diminishing return to

(01:31:33):
which he will never eat that many hot dogs ever. Again,
I don't know if seventy four yeah, but you gotta push,
you know, if we we have the idea for the
show yesterday. Now we're starting to take over a little bit.
Now now you get bigger and bigger. It's global ideas,
and then you and I are buying the angels and
we're running things well once we get once we get
into China with this eating show, that's what they joining
us now on the hotline for more on NBA free

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agency trade rumors fifteen years in the league, Fox Sports
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Polonie one that's at Olden Polonies one. It is olden
Polonies now, first thing old And I want to know,
after we saw the story yesterday that Lebron James contact
and said Sabaos about getting his blessing to wear twenty
three with the Lakers, what players have contacted you about

(01:32:18):
wearing your jersey number? Uh, you know your fifteen year career? None?
Really no, no, But do you think that really happened?
That that one feels like a planet story that didn't
really like I like said he's a great dude and
he was a good player, But really Lebron contacted, said
Sabalos about number twenty three. Um, that's almost as good

(01:32:41):
as um Lebron calling Kevin durant Er. Yeah, yeah, I'm
not not not buying. I'm not I'm not buying he was,
you know, Kobe kare you know? Oh yeah, you know
if he was wearing thirty three? Hey, I need you know,

(01:33:02):
I need that number, Kareem. Yeah, come on, that's about
that number has been available, all right? So what about
this story that Lebron hasn't been in touch and no
no contact with Luke Walton? Should should that at least
poke up our Antennae because I think Luke was away
on the on the outside looking in any way, especially

(01:33:26):
with the whole thing with Alonzo and his dad. So
it's it's a such situation. You know, Lebron, we know
what's been going on when he was in UM in Cleveland.
You know, it's like one of the means that I
saw was, you know, Toron lou has been promoted the
head coach, you know, not that Lebron has gone to

(01:33:46):
the Lakers. And it was some truth to that, and
I think that's one of the reasons that Lebron ended
up signing with the Lake business. You know, he had
there were some things that they talked about here in
Magic and to where you know, hey, I want things
to be statis quote, you know with my friends with

(01:34:07):
high run things, you know. And so to me, that's
one of the main reasons he signed a long time
bill because I do believe, in my heart of hearts,
I don't think um Luke finished just the four years
with Lebron Man. Yeah, I thought I thought David Fizdale
was the guy that they wanted, and uh, you know
that guy kind of leaked out midyear, Fizdale going to

(01:34:28):
the Knicks. But if if not Luke, who can who
can who can coach him? Lebron? Yeah, Lebron can coach Lebron.
I mean they need I think the difference is gonna
be is Luke willing to accept that role. That's gonna
be the key question. It's not who can coach. Anybody
can coach him, but it's more of who can handle

(01:34:51):
being second fiddle on the bench, because that's basically he's
wielding that kind of power now you know he's been
doing that for many Is who lasts longer with the Lakers,
Luke Walton or Alonzo Ball? Great question. Yeah, that's the
tough ones here all the way because the story I'll

(01:35:12):
say lavely because nobody else wants them come down to
say long at least Luke. Somebody's gonna want Luke. They
don't want Laso. I mean, he's been throwing out portrays
already and everybody, you know, especially by Sam Selly, they've
boxed at that one. So he don't last longer because
he's gonna end up, you know, being with the guy

(01:35:34):
that ends up staying. But Luke, there's a guy that
people will say, hey, you know what, that's a good coach.
Let's bring him on. What ultimately happens with Kawhi Leonard.
I believe I've said this before. I kept telling you
about keep an eye on the Clippers. Papa Mitch is
not sending him to the Lakers. I hope these fans
realized that there's no way he and Osky Beauford are

(01:35:57):
gonna help through hackers out. It's it's not gonna happen,
especially in the same conference. They're not doing it. But
why would he want to be a Clipper? I mean,
like what not with him being a Clipper? The man?
All he said is I want to be in l A.
There's two teams in l A and it's the less

(01:36:19):
of the two evils. Um for the San Antonio's first
to send him to the to the Clippers rather than
the Lakers. And so it's either the Clippers in the
West or they're gonna send him somewhere out ease. But
they're not sending him to the Lakers unless the Lakers
give up a king's ransom. How much of it is
okay if they can't get what they want. That Kawhi

(01:36:41):
Leonard just doesn't play, and that he says, you don't
want to play with us. He threatens to sit out,
the Spurs suspend him, and he sits up until the deadline.
Um stall possibility that because now he's showing, hey, you know,
I do pout, and that's what got all this started
in the beginning anyway, is him pouting over them questioning
his its toughness or his injury. And so to me,

(01:37:04):
I see that as a spam possibility now because every
day that goes by is showing us that, you know, Kauais, hey,
I'm still in my feelings. You know, you guys still
hurt me. And you know, I don't think he's even
willing to accept an apology. Now at this point, let's
get to DeMarcus Cousins, who signs with the Golden State Warriors.

(01:37:26):
The reports that no one else offered him officially offered
him a contract. Some of the league just thinks you
almost like canceled the season even though he won't be
ready until mid February maybe later. What was your reaction
to DeMarcus Cousins and what he does to the Warriors.
When I saw that, I just lost my mind because
I'm saying to myself, this is one the top players

(01:37:49):
in our league, and no one, no one offered him anything,
and so but everybody is upset because he ended up
signing with the team was smart enough to snatch him up.
That's it's it's absurd that, you know, teams and players react,

(01:38:09):
you know, the way they do, because everybody, there's twenty
nine other teams that had they had a shot at
getting them. And so to me, the Warriors did Warrior things,
you know, they just made it happen. And it's tolf
watching that because you're gonna have five all NBA guys,

(01:38:29):
five All Stars from the season before. That's unprecedented. So
to me, it's gonna be fun only because it's just
as much pressure to under them now as it was
with the seventy three wins. And so that's what people
gotta look at. I would love it if I was
the opponent, Oh my god, I'd do Please let's get

(01:38:51):
let's get the season started. You know, I want to
be the team that knocked them off. So it's should
be competitive, but it's like it's not even about competition
anymore for some of these guys, you know, they just
want to complain and complain. I'm I've been the one
saying getting the gym. Stare complaining about the Warriors just

(01:39:11):
getting the gym, working on your skill set and then
you too can be a trademark or the Courier or
Clay Thompson. Is there a possibility this couldn't work, you know,
you know, adding Boogie Cousins and and it' say, okay,
here's five all stars on the floor. But still there's
a lot of assimilation that has to happen. He's not
coming back until after February probably at the earliest. Is

(01:39:31):
he going to have a good enough attitude really fit
in with what they want to do? Defensively, there's a
lot of things out there for Boogie Cousins to fit
in with the Warriors, of course, and all the pressures
on him and not the Warriors because the war is
it's five million dollars to them. Worst case scenario, they
cut them and they keep going, and so you know,

(01:39:52):
no one's really looking at all those things. The Warriors
have built a great situation, you know, within the organization,
and everybody has to been in, you know, not to
compare them, but you know, people said the same thing
about Joel McGee before he got there. Oh he's a
headcape he's a loop, you know, shocking a food candidate
or recipient every day, and so to me, you know

(01:40:16):
they're gonna say the same thing with Burger. You know,
he's a cancer. He's but at the end of the day,
the talent sometimes wigh those issues, and he's one of
those guys. He's like a Dennis Roman type. You know,
the talent is flogged labor than the headache. But I
think the culture of the Warriors, it's strong enough to

(01:40:37):
where they can withstand a book at cousin because and
one of the things I've learned with the Markets from
being in Sacramento for a while and being around him,
he wants to win. I think one of that was
one of the main things with him when he got
frustrated and demonstrative and everything else with the coaching staff
is because they were losing games and he hates to lose,

(01:41:01):
and he's not gonna have that problem. Williams in in
Oakland holding um. I still think we people haven't butt
into the idea that the Celtics can be legit competitors
to the Warriors, assuming they're all healthy. Is that is
that an accurate assumption? Oh? No, they're not competitive they're not. No,

(01:41:22):
they can't handle the war is the Warriors is a
different kind of beast. And I mean I like the Celtics,
but they're not in any way, shape or form on
the same level right now. Not to say that they
can't get better, to to evenly you know, get to
that point, but they're not saying right now. I think

(01:41:44):
you know, they got They still got to see how
Gordon fits into this, Gordon Haywards, because they only have
one game with them and he hasn't really experienced, you know,
all the negative with within the team structure, and you know,
it's still gonna be tough. That's a situation that has
to resolve itself. And the Kyrie, you know, towards the

(01:42:08):
end in the playoffs, not being on the bench, there's
a lot of things, a lot of little moving moving past.
There's still have to be addressed within that team. But
now if they start, you know, find a way to
get um Kauai into the mix, because I think that's
a situation because they have enough pieces that they can
handle a trade like that. But right now as is, no,

(01:42:33):
they're gonna be the best team in the East. But
that's about it, you know, And it's unfortunate right now.
I hate to say it myself, but we kind of
know who's gonna win the championship for the next sep
of years. You can fall on Twitter at Olden Polonie one.
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(01:42:56):
we'll talk all right. So there's old not not buying
into to us, uh talking about the Celtics title contenders
being able to win next year. Um, but it was like,
I'm I'm just telling you that things crazy. Kyrie Irving
is a legit top five, top ten player in the league. Um.
And Gordon Hayward was an All Star in the West

(01:43:16):
before you went east. You would make the assumption that
Jalen Band would be better in year three than he
wasn't year two, and the Jayson tATu will be better
in year two than he was in year one. They
still have alf Horford their bench. You remember they had
eleven new guys this past year. Morris, We'll see what
happens if they kee if they retained Marcus Smart like
the idea, they wouldn't get better because they have everybody back,
including adding their two best players. I think they're they

(01:43:38):
may you may not have known it. And then the
idea that well, it's just handing the trophy, the Warriors
trophy for the next three or four years. I did
Clays the free agent next year, Draymond's free next year,
and Kevin Durance free asient next year. None of the stuff,
and and Marcus Cousins is a free agent next year.
None of this stuff. Stuff is set. And so Celtics
one through eight, this is their window. One through eight
is talented, as they are the most talented team in

(01:43:59):
the league till guys start becoming UFAs. Hey, I want
to get paid, because eventually Marcus smart, I want to
say I want to get paid. I want to start
someplace else. They're gonna say, we'd like you to make
a jumper. He would say, well, I still think I'm worth,
you know, more than twelve to fourteen million dollars a year.
But right now they have the a perfect blend of players.
They have elite level talent, and they have young ascending
players under club control who are hungry, who need to

(01:44:20):
prove themselves every second they're out there on the floor,
and that's how guys like Rosier and Smart play And
certainly they're not as talented as the other guys, but
there's they never put out a line up where you go, well,
they gotta weather the storm the next few minute. They're
gonna put talented guys out there. Like I said, being
that strong one through rate is such a big deal.
Where's the where's the where do you get the one

(01:44:41):
through eight? Where be goes? I mean, like, look, I
I know that everybody thinks Terry rose Yers is a
great player. He was their fourth guard during the year.
He just was. I mean, he just he had a
couple of great playoff moments. But for the most part
he regrets to the to the mean. So but but
he's not gonna be playing He's not gonna be playing
the kind of minutes that he would be playing next year.
He's he's very good and small doses, he's no much

(01:45:03):
small doses and small doses, yes, but he's not like
you went through eight, like, well, that's what mean you're talking.
I'm talking about the guys in what they're playing responsibilities
and they're playing time is going to be Terry Rosier
four instead of thirty five minutes a night for twenty
to twenty three minutes a night will be very very good.
Marcus Smart the same thing. If he's playing a few left,

(01:45:23):
he'll be very very But these minutes that are added
are being added to Kyrie Irving and Gordon Ayward, which
which will which which Again, it'll have the opposite in
terms of stats for Terry Rozier, right, so that you're
you're doing that, you're gonna have to pro rate his stats, right,
but he'll still be an effective as effective players there
as there is you can talk about getting. When you
talk about getting set players, you know six, seven and eight,

(01:45:44):
you know what the Celtics are gonna come off the
bench with and have guys coming off that you're not
gonna be missing a lot. It's not boy, Okay, here
we are now second unit is on and this is
gonna be a situation where we want to stem the tide,
not want to lose the lead. And you can be
able to add to a lead or make a comeback
at that point. And that's gonna be over the course
of a year. When you get to the playoffs, especially
when teams get worn down, they're gonna be fresher than

(01:46:05):
anybody when you get to that point, you would you
would you would think that they have a good bench.
I just I think that people are being a little
bit emotionally misled, misled by their emotions and misled by
their eyes and what they saw in the playoffs and
not understanding that if you watch the whole playoffs, he's
he's a very talented young player who if if they,

(01:46:28):
if people felt like he was a starter elsewhere, somebody
would trade for him. Nobody's trading for him because his
best role is coming off the bench, where you can
just come in and try and energize you. You know,
the same thing that Marcus Smart. Like Marcus Smart was
a starter elsewhere, somebody would have offered him starter money elsewhere.
That hasn't happened yet because he's just not He doesn't
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Two big stories surrounding the Lakers in the aftermath of
their acquisition of Lebron James. That break today and kind

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of the the unofficial break we had between the end
of the first wave of free agency and now what
happens next is we talked about the dust settling. The
first part comes to us courtesy of a Lonzo Ball
in which agent Wozarowski Woes on ESPN said this yesterday.
When it comes to a Lonzo balls knee injury. Remember
we had the story a few days ago that a

(01:49:40):
Lonzo Ball's got a torn meniscus and he was gonna
have surgery, but he's gonna be okay for the start
of training camp. Woad says yesterday that knee injury, I
think there was a belief around the Lakers that it
was within his world that got leaked out there to
keep him from getting traded. He doesn't want to be
traded from l A. It wasn't the Lakers who wanted
information on that knee injury. There's a lot of teams

(01:50:01):
who are checking on possible deals with the Lakers. They
wanted to know. There are a lot of questions about
that knee. But Doug, I hate to say I told
you so, except I really do like that, especially when
it comes around a Lonzo Ball. But when this story broke,
it sounded fishy. This is not a Lakers story. This
is a Yahoo report about an injury about a torminusc said, Oh,
by the way, comes right in the middle of Hey,

(01:50:23):
Kawai Leonard's coming. What young pieces could the Spurs want
from the Lakers. And this is why a Lonzo Ball
is eventually going to be an ex Laker, maybe by
the deadline, but certainly by the end of this year,
because the Lakers are gonna get tired of this act
of this what's going on with Alonzo the shroud of mystery,
and mainly it's Alonzo's loyalty more so to his dad

(01:50:45):
and Big ball Er brand than it is to the Lakers.
If he would have one press conference and say, listen,
I'm my own man. My dad talks, we don't really
talk all that often, and and he says what he says,
but I'm committed to the Lakers, Luke Walton, Magic Johnson
winning championships. This is what I'm here for. That I
could get rid of it. But he doesn't do it,
And stories like this come up, and you go, what
other conclusion can you really draw? Well, hold on though

(01:51:07):
you're you're acting as though having the allowed desire to
be a member of the Lakers is somehow a bad thing.
I'll grant you that. If you're hurting the team's chances
of pulling off a trade for a Kauhi Leonard, that's suboptimal.
On the other hand, like, look, he's if his campus
saying he wants to be a Laker, I still think

(01:51:28):
he has that card to play as well. You're not wrong, Okay,
you're not wrong in that the Lakers have have privately
said that, like, look, at some point you gotta stand
up bre ou man. He still has that card to
play and it will be played before he's dealt. Do
I think he's been part of these trade discussions? Sure?
And are we completely sure that that a Lonzo Balls
camp leak this information. We're not. This is angel or Zanowski,

(01:51:51):
Who's that's the talk around the Lakers. But again, teams
are checking in on the Lakers. They got to check
in on Alonzo's knee. Exactly what happened with Lnz. He
was out for a long time if you remember, like
played a fifty two games. But even if we deem
it to be an accurate portrayal of how things went down,
he found you know, his his dad found out that

(01:52:11):
he might be sent to San Antonio and they freaked
out and they released that information. It looks bad, uh,
But it all depends upon your perspective, because at the
perspective of Magic Johnson is a Lonzo Ball saying, look, man,
I want to make it work here. I'll do anything
to make it work here, and I don't want to
be included in any trade because I am a Laker.
I meant I'm destined to be with the Lakers. I

(01:52:34):
think that that's it's received differently from Magic than it
is in terms of in comparison to LaVar planting stories
that can change the history of the team. Right, if
that was the case, that would have happened. If it was, Hey,
a Lonzo Ball really doesn't want to go anywhere. He
had a heart to heart with Magic Johnson. He wants
to stay. That would have been how they handled it.

(01:52:56):
But to have injury information leak out that it's not
how you'd handle if you really want to stay, if
you're not playing some kind of game, this is how
you handle it. You handle it that way and say
all right, because there's many players in the past, I'm
just going in the past few years that when it
comes to the trade deadline, we have heard in NBA
Major League Baseball that you here are out there and
they don't get traded, and you hear the general managers say, hey,

(01:53:18):
I had a conversation. They really wanted to be a
part of what we've got going on here and we
love that part, so we didn't include them. Now, whether
that's the real story or not, or that we couldn't
find a trading partner for them that you know that,
but at least up front, Hey, we had that conversation,
and so and so wants to be here and wants
to be a part of that. I can't buy that.
I I can't. There's too much of a shroud of
mystery and and and what real agendas are going on

(01:53:41):
surrounding Lonzo Ball to see too many stories like this
to go okay, is this really? Did this really how
it went down? Is it not? Look, I'll take you
back to last summer when he's playing in the Summer
League and it's nearing the end and they're gonna play
the Sacramento Kings the second game sacrament they're they're gonna play,
and they played, and it was a situation where it
was they were playing a couple of games in in

(01:54:03):
in in a very short period of time, and they
have that they have a game, they were off, then
they play a game, and then they were off, so
that a couple of games close to each other, and
it comes to the King's game was the last time
they were gonna play the King Sorry, it was the
last time they're gonna play the Kings in Summer League.
That's what it was. And a Lonzo ball had played
up until then, everything was fine, and then the day
before the game against the Kings, all Alonzo's got a knee.

(01:54:26):
We're gonna arrest him a little bit. Meanwhile, he had
played full minutes the game before, was at practice, everything
was fine. Yeah, he may sit out the game against
the Kings. And on the service you would say, okay, well,
why is he sitting out? Well, dear, and Fox is
a guy that worked him during the season, during the
n c A tournament and that was a big headline.
All let's see Lonzo and I so, like I'm telling you,

(01:54:49):
I know that's not the kid, ducking darn Fox. Suddenly
now suddenly, now he sits out for that game. Information
about Alonzo's health was never really made public. And he
he's playing in the next game, and he's back at
practice after that and he's playing. So when all when,
when you see continually see stories like this, how can
you come to any other conclusion other than there's something

(01:55:09):
going on behind closed doors, which I'm taking as they
didn't want the last time these guys play against each other.
If the Aaron Fox goes up against you're taking it
because you don't know, James, this is like Brandon Ingram
didn't play lest year in Summer Lay. How many Brandon
didn't play? Do you know why Brandon dn't playing somebody? Okay,
because he got played one game. Yeah, he rolled his ankle,
He's fine, Okay. His agent didn't want to play, so

(01:55:31):
his agent shut him down. Brandon and play him anymore.
That's how it goes down. So the idea that this
only happens with Lonzo Vault's not the agent shut him down.
They the Lakers badly wanted Brandon Ingram because he didn't
have a great rookie year and they wanted him to
get more experienced play with Alonzo. Then when they have
Alonso come in, like, look, it's a lot for those
guys to go from all of a sudden you're drafted

(01:55:51):
to putting in an NBA system to playing in Summer League.
And they did monitor guys. It didn't play guys every night.
Aaron Fox. Also, I believe didn't play in that last
game either. What was you know? I mean? So, look,
I understand you don't like Alonzo. I don't like the
LaVar Act either, but you're you're you're you're making A
plus C equals B. You're you're you're making a You're

(01:56:13):
making an assumption on something that's a little bit far fetched.
Did he have any issue this year? Yes? Do they
like him yes? Are they in love with him? Like? No?
They in their heart of hearts, they wish that. They
probably wish they would have taken Donovan Mitchell. He had
a great workout. They all liked him that, but they
did by I I think if Alonzo hadn't been in
l af hadn't been for his bad dad and being

(01:56:35):
from l A, probably would've gotten drafted this high. Anyway,
I just think you can only manage the situation as
of now. And however, I would take it if a
guy doesn't want to be traded, woas leaking this story
telling telling this, the story tells us lak Here's they're pissed.
They're trying to make a trade, They're trying to get
Kawhi Leonard. The last thing they need is information that
they want to hold back being out there. And I

(01:56:57):
agree with you, at some point he has to step
up and be his own man. But but let's not
take every different time he missed a game into question
and wonder whether or not uh he was ducking players
or he's a competitive kid that wants to be good,
that's never been coached, that has to change his body.
I think he has to change his shot. Uh. He
did do a lot of things that they like a

(01:57:18):
lot better than a lot of other rookies did. We
only focus on Donno Mitchell and Jason Tatum, and we
don't focus on the rest of the rookie class, which
is wildly disappointing, including MARKL. Fulton number one overall. Pick
How many stories do you have to hear before you realize, Okay,
there's more to it than just here's an isolated story.
This is a one off. I would say, okay, I

(01:57:38):
I get that, all right, did this happened one time?
But now you have this, You have other stories during
ther Now you will book end it with with that story.
To hear that, now you can make an excuse. You
can say, all right, this is this is conceivably how
it could have happened. But there's many times and I
I look at this and goo, something else is at play,
because this is not how normal, how how a normal

(01:57:59):
rookie season goes for anybody in the history of the game.
We don't we don't see things like this and so
when you see that, there's there's no way you can't
look into it and think that there's something else that
play here other than he's hurt. He's this LaVar Ball
has always been an opportunist and his sons have always
been in line with whatever he has going on. And
to see this go this way, do you really think

(01:58:20):
there's nothing going Really, there's nothing going on. Nothing. Whether
it was last summer, there was no bit of hey,
I don't want this headline to be boy dear and
Fox worked you in summer league because you're still working
your way into shape. You're still getting So let's sit
out this game and we'll be back and ready to
play the next game. The Lakers could have easily come
out and protected him if he was really hurt. In
summer League, lass Arks, you know what, Alonzo his knee.
We're gonna sit him down, and we don't want to

(01:58:42):
take a chance with him. They Brandon Inger played one
game and he didn't play the rest of Summer league.
Alonzo Ball just sat out one game in the middle
of games. He was back for the next game. He
was back at practice. He didn't miss practice before. But suddenly, oh,
he's not playing and that's the same thing as this story.
Oh suddenly, yeah, he's been working out. Everything has been great,
all the positive ports. Lonzo is bulked up, he's working out,
he's fine. He was off the court for a while,

(01:59:03):
but now he's back and working out. It's a big story.
Rona Shelburn had it on ESPN and now suddenly, oh yeah,
Torminiscus said any may need surgery. WHOA, Okay, wait a minute,
So what's the real story here, what's going on, what's
leading up to it? Or now what's been leaked to
the press there there's there's too much. I can't keep
looking at all this smoke and say no, there's still
no fire. There's still no fire. Well, the reality was

(01:59:23):
the best. He played his best when his dad was
in Lithuania most of the year his dad was gone.
He really started to play well. Uh he averaged was
at ten six and six, and they felt like he
really improved. And and the dad's a problem. He is
and he's a he's a problem because even now when
he's being supportive in everything he says, it feels it

(01:59:47):
feels forced, and it feels fake, and it feels like
he wants to say something else. He's the dad's trying
to make to to do what they want, but he
just is not al low guy. You know, he's got
his own professional league which nobody's going to, which he's
trying to promote. He's got this, you know, he's got
the brand which people aren't buying shoes. But of course

(02:00:09):
he's you know, pot committed to. So look, I don't
think it's a marriage that's going along super smoothly, but
that doesn't mean that ultimately it can't get worked out. Um.
You know, the the issue they have now is they're
trying to get Kauai, trying to figure out this roster.
Lebron still overseas. There's hasn't any communication between him and

(02:00:31):
and Luke Walton. There's a bunch of other things at play,
and uh, I don't think you know, you you want
leadership you don't even have necessarily, and it's really hard
to do if you're Rob Polinko, if you're Matt Johnson.
But we haven't even had a press conference, you know,
to announce the signing of of Lebron James yet, because
Lebron's not here and because the timing of how everything

(02:00:53):
went down so there's still a lot of stuff that
needs to be set in place. But if you're general premises, Hey,
if Alonzo wants to make it work, he's got to
be his own man and stayed as much. I would
agree with you. I think that sometimes though you're you're
lead to speculate on things that just aren't accurate. Well
do you know that they're not accurate? You don't know?
You know, you for you know for a fact, he
was injured last summer. This is he was. They wanted

(02:01:15):
to rest him. He was in terrible shape. That's why
when they did, they did a workout with him before
the draft. He was totally unimpressive. And then LaVar called
him and hadn't want to do another workout. That did
a private workout and he was a little bit better,
but not much better. Just wasn't in great shape. And
you go out there and all of a sudden, you're
playing in front of eighteen thousand people in Vegas, and
those games are real, and you're playing a forty eight
minute game, and guys are getting into you, and you

(02:01:36):
get and you get worn down. You don't play a
guy every day. Got all these summer league guys. I
remember Greg greg greg Greg greg odin right, he got
hurt in summer league. Blake Griffin got hurt in summer league.
They they don't people get monitored in summer league all
the time. It had nothing to do with dear. They
weren't trying to duck the arn Fox And then this
and this story, now, this is this is something that

(02:01:58):
I definitely think that's what the Lakers think. I definitely think.
Do you think that's but you don't think that's what happened.
I don't know if I that one. I don't know about.
I have no idea about. I don't know. So the smoke, No,
the smoke is the Lakers are pissed that that got out.
Why don't you know that that smoke? I think that's
apparent obviously, Uh yeah, okay, I you know, I it

(02:02:20):
was assumed. Maybe it was assumed before. But when he
says the thought within the Lakers is they have a leak.
Somebody leaked out that he has it tore meniscus. The
Lakers are pissed. They think it's LaVar. That's what that
says to me. How has this gone so not not
so bad? But how is this gone from the high
of Lebron, Lebron coming, and now suddenly that's all the

(02:02:42):
NBA is talking about, and the Lakers are here to
what's going on in the past few days with them,
because it's because they signed because they signed Lance Stevenson
and Rondo and Javail and didn't offer DeMarcus Cousins. I
mark Stein reported and we talked about this when it
happened that they need DeMarcus Cousins to play the start
of the year. The Warriors don't that they that's why

(02:03:03):
they weren't into DeMarcus Cousins. Plus, dude, DeMarcus Cousin has
been a losing player. Who are we kidding? He's been
the reason that teams are losing. Yeah, they're not a
great town around, I'm sure, but he's been a losing player.
And they don't want too many guys with a losing
mindset coming from losing background, you know, around their younger
players and around Lebron James. I think it's because of
the other guys that they've signed and because they didn't

(02:03:25):
get Paul George that that what should be received as
great with great positivity looks like, yeah, I guess they're
a playoff team, but man, there's not much around Lebron James,
gottlieb in for Dan. Coming up next. Well, speaking of
is a Kawhi Leonard going to the Lakers? Could it
be another NBA star the Lakers trying to trade for

(02:03:45):
a big breaking story this morning we get into coming
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The Dan Patrick Show, Jason Smith, Doug gottlieb in for Dan,
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Tomorrow you're filling in for Colin. You're in the herd
tomorrow morning. You're all over the play. The last couple
of weeks, you went from the herd now here with me,
and then you got the herd tomorrow you got rid
of me. I didn't bind your Alonzo ductor, dear and Fox,

(02:04:37):
and so all of a sudden, I get I get
a text that I'm I'm no longer co hosting tomorrow.
I had to make a phone call. I mean I
had to. I had to pull the power play. You
know that's what it is. You watched billions, you you
gotta you gotta know. You gotta know what when when
to make a move. You can't you can't let things
hang on too long. You gotta know when to make
a move. My my favorite line of Billions is from
the first episode, what's the what's the point of having

(02:04:58):
a few money if every once in a while? I
like when he was telling that when he was interviewing
one of the uh I forget. It was like, I
think the second season's interviewing somebody who was gonna, you know,
work for him. And he said and and and he said,
you seem like you're filled with hate, and and I
don't know, maybe because hate is great. It's an endless resource,

(02:05:18):
will never let you down, endless. Uh. But while we're
at a point now where free agency maybe takes a
little bit of a back seat to what's next in
the NBA, all the big players have chosen their new team. Still,
you know, Clint Capella is out there, and there's there's
some other names out there. Isaiah Thomas is still out
there as well. But now potentially we are talking about

(02:05:42):
what could happen next as far as trades go. Chris
Sheridan put this out here a day ago and then
Damian Lillard kind of fan the flames on it by
saying that the Lakers, after losing out on Paul George,
trade for Kawhi Leonard might not be happening. The Lakers
are looking at a number of trade options, including Damian Lillard,
Kevin Love, DeMar DeRozan, Bradley Beale, and John Wall, among others.

(02:06:07):
When this was brought up to Damian Lillard on Twitter
yesterday and said, hey, would that make you happy to
go to the Lakers, he tweeted back, I'm generally a
happy guy. And so now Damian Lillard could have ignored
the tweet, could have not said anything, could have just
let it go, but decided to respond to it, throwing
out there, hey here's the Lakers. I'm responding. I know
this could be going on. Of all of these guys,

(02:06:29):
Doug Lillard, Love de ros and Beale, John Wall, who's
the best fit, who would come in if the Lakers
make a deal for them? That could hit them right
away and suddenly, okay, you know what, this makes them
the best version of themselves? Oh uh? Well, what are
they getting rid of? Right? You know? It's like you're

(02:06:50):
not just adding a piece you're gonna have to subtract pieces. Okay,
all right, if the guy I like the most, we
talked about I like Lillard the most. What he brings
his shot making, clutch ability. Let's just say you have
to trade. I just don't. He didn't. He didn't play
any defense like he's he's one of the worst defensive
point guards. He was a little bit better this year.
He's a great shooter, a great shooter. And if you're

(02:07:11):
saying that opposite Lebron, okay, but can't you you could
hide him though they brought they have a lot of
good long defenders. You can hide him a little bit.
And you may be only really hard to hide at
that at that position, it's it's very that spot in
the NBA. If you can't defend, it's really really hard. Um.
But yeah, he's a great shot maker. Um. Again, say

(02:07:35):
you're losing one of the guys. You're losing one of
the guys in a draft pick. You're losing Brandon Ingram,
you're losing Lonzo and Josh Hart. You're losing Ingram and
a pick. You're losing Let's let's say you're losing close
to what you'd give up for Kauai because you think
it's gonna come down to ingram Heart and to pick
for Kauhi Leonard. If they wind up doing the deal,
let's say it's something a little bit less than that.
Let's see. I don't think they have to give up
a ton to get Kevin Love. And I like Kevin

(02:07:57):
Love a lot better than most people like Kevin Love
right just because he's playing those games he's played with Lebron.
He can make shots. Yeah, he again, he's not a
great defender. For the reason that he he'd be moved.
I don't I don't hate that Kevin Love idea. Um main, Hell,
DeMar de Rosen can just go get buckets. I mean
he is, he's Kobe light, but he's Kobe like that.

(02:08:18):
That's who he is. And I like Brad Beal a lot.
I like John Wallly just can't shoot. He just he
didn't shoot it well enough. And they're not they haven't
created a team that has enough space for John wall
to get the most out of himself. Um, I would
say probably, Yeah, I'm I'm with you on the Lillard
and Beal in terms of being able to play without
the basketball. Uh. De Rosen obviously it's a huge money deal,

(02:08:40):
and you that that would lock you up as a
second Max guy. So I would probably do bal One,
Lillard too, and then the Rose in three. But I'm
I'm I'm willing to slide Kevin Love into one of
those top three spots because I think that he will. Uh,
He's got I think like two years left on a deal,

(02:09:00):
and I don't think it would cost nearly as much
to get him as it would to get those other guys.
See Derosan. I don't know if it's just because of
the the proximity to the playoffs, but this is when
he's gonna take that jump the series against the Couch,
He's gonna take that jump back. And he was bad
against and he was really bad, and I you know,
I didn't completely close the door on him, but you know,

(02:09:22):
his name amongst all of these, I'm like, boy, it's
really tough for me to say, Hey, Derosan, with that
kind of money, come on in, and this is that
you're gonna be our number two guys. Okay, but what
has Brad Beal done? I mean, and and look, Damian
Lillar has put up some crazy, crazy numbers, but I mean,
were they what what exactly have they done? Um, there's
plenty of times in which he hasn't done done enough

(02:09:43):
in the playoffs, and you could say he doesn't have
good enough team around him. That'd be fair. Um, I
would look, I agree with you coming off the playoffs,
But there's another l a guy he can really score.
And Lebron is the guy who values somebody else he's
gonna need in this incarnation of his career, somebody else
who can go and get a bucket on his own.

(02:10:04):
And I do think Tamard Rosen is a guy who can.
He's probably the best score your score of that mix.
Is it the pressure because if they don't get Kauai,
they have to look at themselves and say, all right,
we we we've got Lebron, we're supposed to get Paul
George didn't happen. We're gonna try to trade for Kauai.
Doesn't happen, maybe he winds up coming to us next year.
Is the pressure that much that they're gonna say, all right,

(02:10:27):
we have to make this trade now, we gotta get
one of these guys. Or is it going to come
down to you know what, we really think Kauai is
gonna come and I know we got burned with Paul George.
We got burned because we thought he was coming and
he everything was I love l A. I can't wait.
And then I'm staying in Oklahoma City. Which is gonna
be the path they choose. Oh, I think they want
to add one of these guys and then add Kawhi
Leonard or at at another piece. I don't think. I

(02:10:48):
think everybody believes instead of having two stars, you need
three stars in order to to win big. That's what
the Warriors have, and I you know, I they'd also
offer up the possibility is still getting Clay Clay Thompson
or something like that. So um, you know, look, they
have lu All Dank's contract to trade away or to
stretch whatever. There's gonna be money there. They got all

(02:11:10):
these one year deals. I'm sure the plan is to
add two more players at some point. It's just who
do you who fits in best around Lebron And what's
Lebron gonna be during this four years at the contract
right because Lebron is not the same now as he
was last year or as he was three years for that.
Gottlieb in for Dan live from the Mercedes Benz Studios.

(02:11:31):
Mercedes Benz the Best or Nothing. So that's the latest
story we have right now. As far as big trades,
those guys that we just mentioned, Lillard, Love de Rosan, Beale,
Wall and I Love at the End, among others, among
others that could be traded. Give me you're tired, you're poor,
your wretchard or whatever. Masses yearning debris three. Yes, that's
what you're looking for. Doug, gotta leave. Jason Smith, Fox

(02:11:53):
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