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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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some New York Giants head football coach. We'll talk some Chargers,
We'll talk some Chiefs. We'll talk it all with Daniel
Jeremiah later on this hour. I love that rivalry talk.
I mean like we could have gone how many rounds
do you think we could have gone? There? Dan, Byer
in that like we I forgot. I didn't forget, but
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I was like trying to measure out. And part of
my thing with Dolphins Jets was a Dolphins Bills was
great back in the day. Recently Niners and if you're
just joining us, we did best rivalries in the NFL.
Niner Seahawks has probably been as competitive and as important
a rivalry as you can think of, but it's only
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like fifteen to twenty years old because they weren't in
the same division until twenty years old.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, it's also a funky situation because I think there
are a lot of different options that we can go.
But honestly, because the Seahawks didn't go to the NFC
West until the early two thousands, there isn't the thirty
and forty year history that we have, but it was
right up there. And I'm the guy that's saying this
that took Steelers Ravens because of how high it was
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at one point, and I think Seahawks forty nine ers
matched or darn near match that rivalry between the Steelers
and Ravens.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Would I would agree. I actually also think that's what's
missing with the AFC South, right, Like Why is the
AFC South so wonky, feels so weird, right, Well, Tennessee
used to be the Houston others, right, so there's I mean,
they've been there for a long time, but there's no
like unique rivalry there with the Indianapolis culture used to
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be the Baltimore Colts, right. The Jaguars were a team
that they've been around for thirty five years or so, right,
So it's just interesting that that division lacks the rivalries
all the other divisions have, even though some divisions have
broken up some rivalries of the past.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Here's here's the I don't want to say dirty little
secret about the AFC South because the NFC South also
kind of a newer division, if you will. But the
Houston Texans being the newest team you talked about the
move of the Titans and the Jaguars being new as well.
I think that it's kind of a mix because the
Colts were the AFC East at one point, the Oilers
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when they played were in the AFC Central when they
were in Houston, So you lost all of those rivalries. Heck,
Houston and Cleveland, Cincinnati and Cleveland, like those were great
rivalries within that division. A division that the Steelers were
in and this is the nineteen eighties, so they're really
hurt by it. Also I mentioned Falcons Saints. Yeah, Falcon
Saints were in the NFC West together. It's a built
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in rivalry that carries over to the NFC South. So
that's got a little bit more equity than Tampa coming
over from the NFC Central or just the Panthers being
new and I know the Panthers for a while we're
in the NFC West, but just not as much equity
as the other two teams.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
But it does make sense though, right Like you have
the AFC South, you're always trying to figure out, like
why is that the forgotten division? And I forgot the
point that the Houston Texans are the newest team in
the NFL, the Jaguars part of the other the second
and third new teams in the NFL, and then the
other two teams in division that's not their traditional home
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nor their traditional division. So you have all this kind
of mood. It's there's there's a reason.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I also think that the AFC South road on the
shoulders of Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts for so long.
And it's not to say that the Titans didn't have
good teams with Steve McNair and Eddie George, or that
Jacksonville didn't have good teams. But the fact is is
the Colts winning that division and having Peyton Manning, they
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were a top team in that in that conference, in
that league, you know, in the league. And now Peyton's
gone and there's really nobody there with that cachet anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yep. And and you brought up a point that is
not has not been brought up by anybody else, myself
included in sports radio. We everyone talks about the Patriots.
They just dominated their division. Their divisions stunk. Says the
exact same thing about the AFC south of Peyton Manning, right,
because because look, you had a couple of years of
the Jets being good off and on, the Dolphins have
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been decent or whatever. But for the most part during
those twenty years, it was the Pats. Remember the Bills
went through thirteen years of not making the playoffs, and
the same is true with the with the Colts. It's
one of those things where it didn't seem like they
were in the playoffs every year. They were in the
playoffs every year, and they would never meet, almost never
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meet in the first playoff game because they both won
their division every year. Really interesting. It's Doug out the show.
He's Dan Byer, Jason Stewart's the producer, Iowa Sam is
on the board and the ones and twos, and what
we like to do on Thursdays is, well we throw
it back, but we just don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
We look back on one of the years of the past.
And with that we turned over to Jase.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
You know what happened to years ago? Ten years ago,
the term fitzmagic came to be a thing. You guys
remember Fitzmagic. Well, you're gonna see him on TV tonight.
He's the zany guy with the long beard and those
crazy clothes. Doesn't have a lot of interesting things to say,
but he looks zany. So he's on TV. Fitzmagic took
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hold ten years ago. Guys, they're playing the Jets, were
playing the Patriots as they are tonight, and the Jets
won twenty six to twenty in overtime. Ryan Fitzpatrick led
an ot TV after a curious decision by Bill Belichick
to kick in overtime. Now, if you remember the old rules,
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if you score first, you win sudden death, and Bill
Belichick's confidence in his defense maybe blinded his spirit. Anyways,
the Patriots would lose that game. The Jets kept their
playoff hopes alive. The Patriots would go on in that
twenty fifteen season to lose to the eventual champion Broncos
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in the conference championship game. What a year, What a season.
It was the year of Cam Newton who won the MVP.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Dan Bayer.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Anything else to add about that twenty to fifteen NFL
season or anything.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Else, absolutely, because we talk about now the NFL schedule,
at least I believe with seventeen games, I feel like
it added three or four more weeks to the actual season.
It's going to be really difficult for a team to
go unbeaten. However, the Carolina Panthers were fourteen and oh
at one point during that campaign just a decade ago.
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They lost in Week sixteen to the Atlanta Falcons, ended
up fifteen and one, ultimately lost the Super Bowl. But
it's as close as we've gotten to a team really
challenging the Patriots for their sixteen and oh record, the
Carolina Panthers fourteen and oh in the regular season fifteen
to one on their way to their let's just call
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it runner up appearance in the the NFL as they
lost Super Bowl fifty.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, and that was a Super Bowl occurred in twenty sixteen.
Remember that year they played a really soft schedule. I
believe only one team with the winning record they played
all season long, all season long. Okay, twenty fifteen in
the NBA gave us a Golden State Warrior Championship. The
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Warriors beat the Calves in six games that year, and
you're like, wait, which Warrior team was that? That was
the one with Andrea Goodala winning the MVP where they
when they beat the Calves. That was when Kyrie Irving
hurt his knee in regulation of Game one, didn't play
in overtime or in the rest of the series after that,
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and the Golden State Warriors Andrea Godala, who is like
the fifth guy that didn't guard him, got a bunch
of dunks in some threes in the last couple of games,
ends up being the league's.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Also that year twenty fifteen, in college basketball, the Duke
Blue Devils cut down the nets, winning the National championship
all because of a halftime interview done by Mike Ryzewski.
That's what you'll you'll get if you ask Wisconsin Badger fans,
as Wisconsin was in the National championship game that year,
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Please everyone be quiet.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Tias Jones was one of the heroes, the point guard
for the Duke Blue Devils. Tias Jones is from Minneapolis
where I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
So that was the Wisconsin Duke National Championship game.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Do you know what he's talking about with the interview?
I'm about the officiated at half time and suddenly Duke
got every call in the second half.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Man, I remember a lot about that Wisconsin team though,
because wasn't Kentucky undefeated prior? Yes, and Wisconsin took him
out and if Frank the tank Cominsky it was.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
A payback from the year prior when Kentucky knocked out
Wisconsin in the National semi final.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Man, Wisconsin.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Who was the other stud on the Wisconsin team, Decker?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yes, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
She lives in Sheboygan, Sheboygan z own.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Let's head to the Diamond, Folks, where the Royals won
their first World Series title. Uh in forty years.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
How we Forgibs.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
That was the year after they went to the Was
that the year they beat the Mets?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Right, they beat the Mets that year? Yep, yep, they
lost to the Giants the year before. Now, the Mets team,
of course beat the Dodgers in the NLCS. That was
the series where Chase Utley broke the leg of the
shortstop going in high and changed the rule forever. You
can't go near that fielder now because of Chase Sutley.
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In the twenty fifteen NLCS.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Uh one correction, it was the nl DS.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
That's when I met ds ps.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
They beat the Cubs in the CS.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Oh, the rise of the Cubs was also a story
that year. Yeah, yes, good point. Remember Ronda Rowsey?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, do you remember rond Yeah, she did.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Her stride that year. A year of Ronda Rousey and
women's I just saard Joe Rogan the other day said
that that Dana White is more than willing or was
more than willing to never have a women's division because
it's it's really unsightly to see women beating the crap
out of women.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But Ronda Rowse a void the punches, so they just
come out looking honestly like their their face was stuck
through like a meat processor. And just the post fight
interviews for Women's mm A is really tough on the eyes.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Yeah, what's that one meme that's been floating around for
a few minutes, just the woman all bruised up and
she's like, yeah, I feel great, I'm doing okay, I'm good,
I'm good, doing great, feel great. Ronda Rowsey, she she
got beating so many people because she just come out
and pummel you. And then she was beating up on
I think opponents were lesser than and then she went
up against but Holly Holm and she kind of drifted
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away from the scene. Now she's doing mostly acting, I
think in pro wrestling, but she's you know, she's still around.
But she had a nice little uh surge there.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Just I hate to be that guy, No, I don't.
Isn't pro wrestling acting as well?
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Absolutely, with a little bit probably more probably more next
Nick Aches and you know Pains well.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I know the folks in the Pacific Northwest wish the
USGA would have acted better when it came to course
conditions of the twenty fifteen US Open held at Chambers Bay.
But what you couldn't do is deny the finish put
on by Jordan Speith and Dustin Johnson. Speith, looking to
go back to back Majors after winning the twenty fifteen Masters,
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was in the group ahead of Dustin Johnson, settled for
Bertie on the fifteenth. So when Eagle would win it
for DJ, A Bertie force his playoff and DJ's putt
ran about five feet past the hole for Eagle on
the par five eighteenth, maybe not even five feet, maybe
three and a half feet. He missed the comebacker in
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Jordan Speith when a second major of the year at Chambers.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Bay wasn't that was is that when the Shark was
still doing commentary.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Was the first year of it. That was the first year.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Of and and he choked. And they didn't ask Greg
Norman about choking when Greg Norman is synonymous with choking.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
I think they didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
He just said, I don't know, or yeah, good question,
something like that, like what's going through his mind right now?
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Interesting you bring up Dustin Johnson, by the way, just quickly.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I can't remember because I was there and then I
got to play Chambers Bay the next day, so all
right on to you.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Jason, nice, nice, humble brag.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I like it at the first Harry Potter buck took
place Chambers Bay, Harry Potter humor.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You know you have a Harry Potter. You got you
got a Harry Potter.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Harry Potter mouth love it.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
It's funny you bring up Dustin Johnson because you know,
Justin Johnson is known for golf, but he's also known
for his sweaty wife, the daughter of Wayne Gretzky, and
he loved this song in twenty fifteen because he loves
the taste of women.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
It wins something like this.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
This is the song Sugar by Maroon five at the
top of the charge for five weeks in twenty fifteen.
It was the second number one hit for Maroon five.
Of course everyone remembers Maps the year before, but yeah,
Dustin Johnson loved this song. It's about tasting women and
how sweet that sugar is. Great song, great year for music.
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What happened in the in movies as we try to
get to.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
A B well in movies. In movies, the number one
draw at the box office was Star Wars episode episode
the I I Sorry Sorry Worse awakens.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
You know I've never seen any of those new Star
Wars movies. I didn't see any of them. Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Seven was really good. Okay, Jurassic World because the world
needs more dress.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
Should we get Ryan Smith in here?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
There may there could be another Jurassic Who knows we.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
Can we can end those I think we can't. We can't.
My son loves that stuff.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Well, he can go back and watch all nine of
them now.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It was also a Hunger Games two was that year
that was going mocking Jay really good, good, And I
gotta tell you one of the most inventive Pixar films,
inside Out, Inside Out, Inside Out is a good one.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Didn't they make a sequel a year or two ago
and everyone freaked out about it. It's about like your
feelings and stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That's what inside Out is, right right?
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Okay, gotcha?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
But yeah, it's it's a further Yes, there's a there's
an inside Out too. Ant Man was that year as well. Man.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
I didn't see an of those movies.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
DiCaprio, We have a Dicapriole won his first Oscar for
the Revenant.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
The Revenant, Love the Revenant, Love the You know, he's
also good in that movie is a Hardy Tom Hardy
plays a real evil like Cowboy. Great great movie The Revenant, slow,
not a lot of dialogue, but fantastically shot film.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
It's one of the rare times that the Oscars where
the director won and didn't win Best Picture because the
Best Picture went to Spotlight. So kind of a light
comedy about the Catholic church abusing children.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
L that's a good that's a good movie. It's a
very good movie comedy.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I believe Narcos launched in twenty fifteen too. That was
like one of the of the of the big streaming shows,
like that was a big one that that a lot
of people empire. Narcos was that year. Better Call Saul
was that year, which of course is a prequel to Uh,
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what's it help me? Help me?
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Breaking Bad?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Breaking Bad? Yeah, pre quote of Baking Bad. There's some
good shows on TV on the streaming service in twenty fifteen.
That's probably the first year we got full streaming, and
that is don't call it throwback Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (17:30):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
So here's the question. All right, the argument, it's not
even argument. The reality is that the Dallas Mavericks fired
Nico Harrison because at home games it got to be
too much fire Nico. And again, let's just be honest.
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Anthony Davis is hurt, Kyrie Irving is hurt. Team looks
like crap, right, So is that a logical reason? And
again I'm actually I wouldn't do it, But I think
that Jason Sewart brings up a great point where Jaysus like,
look in any other business, the customer is right. This
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is a customer based business. The customers were furious with
Nico Harrison, blamed him for the trade. He essentially is
responsible for the trade. Doesn't matter if they got if
it went up the ladder that it had to stug
out lib show here on Fox Sports Radio, we hit
the Nico Harrison thing in one second. One point eight
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billion sounds light for the Padres, right, it sounds light
for the Padres. But whatever, maybe they don't own their
stadium and they're in San Diego. Feels like a bargain.
Like if I had one point eight billion dollars, I
think the Padres would be a damn goodbye uh by it.
Let me get your opinion. Okay, actually, let's just do this, Jason.
I thought it was such a really good point, and
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I know I sort of made it, but I wasn't
your voice your words if you could so, Dan, can
hear it from out of your mouth? Is that essentially it?
The customer is always right and the customer has clearly
stated they don't want Nico Harrison running the Mavericks. It
shouldn't be that big a deal that the Mavericks did
what the customer wants, which is what you're supposed to
do when you running a business.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I think that my take is a little bit different
than the customer is always right. I know that's the
cliche and it sounds good, but I think that what
my take was is this became an untenable situation. Untenable
they the players were being distracted at their own home
games by hatred for the general manager. This became untenable
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in the building where your consumers go, for your players
to play in front of that crowd, and the ownership
basically said, we're going to not only listen to our
fans that we made an awful mistake, probably, but we're
also going to make this more tenable by eliminating this distraction.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
So the question Dan is do you agree with that
premise as to why you make the move.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I mean I felt that Nico Harrison did not do
his job the moment he traded Luca. And some people
say that your job as a general manager is to
win championships, and that may seem like the obvious, but
I don't think that. I think that Mavericks fans again
would rather just be able to have Luca be their
guy for the next fifteen years and if they don't
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win a championship, then so be it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
They just but would they But would they really like again,
I understand, I know they have said that. Okay, but
let's just say let's let's let's build. Let me build
the scenario for me. Okay, for you, Dan, Let's say
he continues to come in heavy and on and off
with injuries because he's carrying too much weight and he's
really good, but they don't win a championship. Do you
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think there would be the same level of fantom form.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I think that they they they absolutely adored him. Maybe
I shouldn't have said the next fifteen years, but I
would say for the next five years they wanted Luka
Doncic to be their guy.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
And so that's really so even.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And by the way, we're not even talking about the
crappy package they got in return.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So, but that's completely separate to Jason's point and of
Cooper Flag's mom saying like, yes, stop chanting fire Nico
when we're shooting free throws, like like to that point,
like that's where it finally finally got to.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I just think that's Daniel Jeremiah joins this year on
the Doug Gottlieb Show DJ. We're talking about how Jason stated,
and I do agree with this idea. It's a little
bit of the customer's always right. He was just like, hey, look,
it was untenable in Dallas. Dan agreed, like untenable Dallas.
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Here's my perspective on the guys, which I had not
yet shared. I sat in the bleachers in Lambeau and
I listened to what I think are great football fans,
Like they're not on the phones, they're not worry about
other stuff. Obviously it's Monday night, so I do more
about fantasy football. But I mean, by the end of
the game, every member of the Green Bay Packers should
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be cut, every coach should be fired. And they lined
up and lost on a fairly unmakeable sixty five yard
field goal with the win at at their back, and
they're five to three and one on the season. My
point is that when I was sitting there, I listened
to the fans and I felt dumber because of it.
I just did, because they they now have some they
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have some a lot more information than they ever have,
but they think they have everything, and look, I was.
My difference is I'm a fan, but I admit I
don't know why, Like why weren't they throwing the ball?
More like, well, they lost their left tackle and they
lost their tight end, and the tight end they replaced
their left tackle with can't block, and so they didn't
want Jordan Love to get to get blindsided every time.
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Where are you on the untenable nature of the Mavericks,
And that's ultimately what led to them changing GMS.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
I think anytime if you move on from a you
know base of the franchise, you know type transcendent type player.
The stakes are very very high, no question, and the
challenges when you look throughout all all sports, it's very
rarely that when you trade one of those guys and
you can go to Wan Soto and baseball, you can
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go through all the different sports that you know normally,
even if you've got a great haul, which they didn't there,
you're not going to be able to approximate the value
and the stardom that just walked out the door. So
anytime you do that, it's just a very dangerous proposition,
even if you can justify it that you feel like
it's the right move and you've got to go in
that direction. But he just he was never going to
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be able to overcome that. You know, he was as
a general manager, he was going to be the point
person there. He was going to be viewed as uh
as the reason why their face of the franchise is
no longer there. And that's, uh, that's just throughout all sports.
That's difficult to work through.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I'll tell you the opposite side of his Landerfield's got
fired as GM of the the Hawks, and he didn't
make that move. And and look, I don't think that
I don't think that Trey Young is anywhere in the
solar system of Luca, but he's as popular in Atlanta
as Luca is in Dallas. And by not pulling that trade,
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they accepted their faith as never achieving much and and
he got fired. So you can be damned if you do,
damned if you don't. Okay, but what about the Packers.
Was it because they were down a left tackle in
a tight end? Like, wh why were they so conservative
on Monday Night?
Speaker 8 (24:53):
I don't know. I mean that's that that was just
kind of bizarre to me. I just think when you're
playing the bet teams and on the bigger stages, especially
when you get into the postseason. Again, I don't think
this is just football. I think it's all sports. Aggression
is usually rewarded. And to me that I think they're
to that place as a franchise, like they're ready to
go right now. This is their window, this is their time.
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It's not time to be cautious. It's time to be
aggressive and they've done that in personnel. It's time to
do that now on the field and their play style.
So that to me has been a little bit of
a disconnect.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Okay, what about the what about the other side. Okay,
the other side was the Eagles again, I walk away.
They win the game really on two offensive plays, right,
Saquon out in the flat and then the unbelievable throw
and catch to to DeVante Smith. But I actually understand
AJ Brown's argument to a certain extent. Like he had
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two completely nondescript catches. It's it's like they don't even
try and feature him. Why is their offense not just
so pedestrian, but pedestrian despite the fact that you have
some really talented pieces.
Speaker 8 (26:02):
I just think that's the way that the quarterback likes
to play football, and it's you know, about making him comfortable.
And I speak out of both sides of my mouth
here because I talked about the need to be aggressive,
but they are aggressive with him, and they have been
in Super Bowls and on some big stages, but it
hasn't really been required for them to navigate the regular season.
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And this is just kind of the mundane, boring brand
of football that they play that's been rewarded with success.
So I totally understand for AJ Brown is a you know,
an elite, elite player who could be piling up tons
and tons of numbers elsewhere. But you know, I've never
had I've never had an interview with the player when
they're coming to the draft process where when you ask him,
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would you rather, you know, have the individual stats and
success or win a super Bowl. I mean, they all
give the lip service so they want to win a
super Bowl. But this is kind of a this is
like truth theoreum to aj Brown because that's playing this
way is how they've won super Bowls and it's how
they think they can do it this year. But it's
going to be at the sacrifice of his numbers and
his personal success.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Brian Dabele fired. What was your reaction?
Speaker 8 (27:08):
I think it was you know, look, I think you
can you can understand the tough spoties in with the
injuries they've had and some of the roster limitations, but
I also see the side of it where they've just
blown games, where they've had opportunities, even with the limited personnel,
to put games away and they haven't been able.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
To do that.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
And I think the you know to me and I
don't I don't talk to anybody in that organization, but
this almost feels like an audition for Matt Kavka, not
as the future head coach, but potentially as the future
you know, offensive play caller with the keys to the car,
with the relationship with Jackson Dart that they don't want
to disrupt, and they can go out and maybe hire
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a defensive head coach and keep some continuity for a
young quarterback so he doesn't have to start completely over.
So I mean, I get it from that standpoint.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
All right, I'll give you three teams really good records,
but no one actually thinks are any good. You tell
me how they rank one, two, three, right, Seahawks, Seahawks, Broncos,
Colts one to three. Who's the best, Who's the worst?
Speaker 8 (28:09):
I will go Seahawks, Colts, Broncos, Broncos third, just because
offense is not has not been clicking, and you know,
though Nick still has some stuff to prove there. Defense
is really really good, ultra ultra aggressive. I'm anxious to
see how they do against Kansas City this week. But
I do love the defensive side of the ball. I
think the Cults are, you know, a complete offense, the
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best offense I've seen all year, while the Broncos are
the best defense I've seen all year. And I think
the Seahawks at the top of the list for me,
because I think they have the most balanced team. I
think they can they can beat you different ways. Offensively,
they ran the ball well last week. They've got JSN
who's playing great, Sam's playing great. And defensively they have
waves and waves of defensive front players they can throw
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at you. And uh and I think Leonard Williams is
complete stud I think they're really good at all three levels.
I think they're the most complete of those three teams.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Okay, what where are we with the Chargers? Right? They've
won three in a row despite all of these injuries,
but now Jacksonville on the road is a tough one.
Then Raiders, then Eagles, which is and then Den Chiefs.
They stuff to go to the Broncos. How are they
You know they're going to be able to keep him upright,
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considering how decimated that offensive line has been.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
Yeah, I actually think and I know that people will
look at the PFF stats and such. I know that
kind of made the rounds, But I think the last
couple of weeks the offensive line has played better. They're
running the ball, which is big. Herbert's kind of ran
himself into a couple of these sacks. Yep, where he's
trying to climb up into the pocket and it's kind
of got caught no man's land. So I think offensively,
the fact that the interior is healthy now and then
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they can help out the tackles. They're they're learning how
to play with this offense line scooting the ball out
to the perimeter quick, they're running the ball. So this
is a three week period. They needed to win these
three games, and they got the first one down with
the Steelers. If they could beat Jacksonville this week, and
I think it's the Raiders after right, and you'd be
does that put him at ten or right? You know,
right around ten ten wins, I think that you kind
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of punt punch your ticket and then it's okay, see
if you can maybe try and steal the division down
the stretch. But the first goal is just win these
three games and kind of secure the playoff spot.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah, you get to get to the bye week, you know,
you get to this bye week after they play, after
they play the Jags, and see what more you can
get get get health wise. Doug Gottlief Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Okay, this one's this one's sort of interesting
to me. What do you think the Browns do at
quarterback because Deshaun Watson's now working out.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
This funny thing is man Like, there's the preseason. Oh,
there's the pre draft. What are the Brown's gonna do
at quarterbacks? There's the post draft, there's the start of camp,
there's four games into the season, then there's eight. I mean,
it's like it is a soap opera with their quarterback position. Yeah, so,
I mean, I don't know. I mean, to me, I
guess I'd want to get another look at Watson just
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to see if somehow he could recapture what he once was.
But I mean, it still feels like their quarterback of
the future is not in the building right now.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
That's correct, He's the one only. Daniel JEREMYE. DJ, You're
the best man. I really appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Hey, if you want to buy the Potteris with me,
let me know.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, how many friends do you think we'd need? One?
Or two really really rich ones? But one point? He
kind of sounds like a bargain these days.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:32):
No, I think if we can get the saga in
the mix, I think we could pull it off.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
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the press, the press.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
All right, Doug, we have a winner at Fox Sports Radio. Wait,
Ryan Bursinger. He is repping a Dodgers' twenty twenty five
World Series T shirt today. The first bit of gear
that I've seen from any of our crew wearing Dodgers
World Series Championship twenty twenty five version.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
I saw that, I was like, oh, it's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
What that tells me is that Bursch either won the
lottery came into a lot of money recently. Because the
t shirts now that are forty five dollars after the
first year will be like twenty two dollars, and I
play it that way. I know Doug can appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Frugal again, Yes, yes, listen, I have I don't know
if you guys know this, for seven dollars. I have
Toronto Blue Jay's World Series Champion T shirts. Pretty good.
I thought I got a good deal on them. I
buy that for a dollar.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
I'd pay a lot more than that. I like those.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I do too. We should do that. When I was
a kid, my boy claim McKnight and I shout out
to Clay claiming Knight and I and Miles Simon, we
would go to the Final Four on Monday night or
Tuesday morning. Before we leave the Final four, we would
buy the shirts of the teams that lost on Saturday
night because they'd be super cheap and they just try
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to get rid of them, like five bucks. That was
our thing. So I have. I have Cincinnati Bearcats shirt
from was that ninety one? Like you named it? You
lost the semifinals? Yeah, ninety two. Yes, I have a
Minnesota Golden Golfer shirt from ninety seven. Yep, right, do
you not Jewish Jordan Sam Jacobson, like you name it,
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We would buy those.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
It's also rare because I don't think that final four
appearance exists anymore.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
It doesn't exist. You're right, ever happened, Yeah, it didn't.
Did not happen, like their schoolwork never happened.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Correct, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
By the way, if you didn't see yesterday, Michigan State
lost fourteen victories because of three ineligible players. But good
to know Michigan still national champs for the biggest cheating
scandal that college football or maybe any sport has ever seen.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
For that, Shame on you, Religan State.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
That's the biggest I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Be better, Michigan State. You don't deserve any of those
fourteen wins over a three year span. How dare you?
My goodness? All right, let's get to some other drama
happening in the National Football League or in football, this
time in the NFL. The NFL has filed agreements against
the Players Association because they want the union to stop
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those yearly anonymous report cards that basically shreds franchises across
the NFL talking about their facilities, talking about their meal options,
talking about their daycare options, locker room head coaching. The
NFL that it violates the CBA.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I mean listen. If it's if we want to do
it that way, I'm sure the NF the owners be like,
all right, fine, we can do that.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
We do.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
The guys that didn't show up at work, showed up drunk,
you know, called it, you know, call it sick multiple times,
you know, forgot their cleats, all kinds of stuff. I
understand it's the hey, just do better. But I also
understand that, like some of it also comes across like whining,
like your daycare options, your dining options.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Really, I like, I think that the NFL should release
which locker room has the most baby mamas. See what
the players think of that.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I love these report cards. It must be like Christmas
morning when they come in, like in your email. I
assume it's email and not snail mail. But still, that
would be pretty awesome to actually get a piece of
snail mail.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
That would be worth anything, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
In other news in the National Football League, Ravens quarterback
Lamar Jacks back at practice today, so he'll start against
Cleveland on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
CJ.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Stroud will not start for Houston. Davis Smills starts against
the Titans for the second straight week.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
What what why know? CJ.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Stroud concussion, knocked out in Week nine, didn't play last week,
and not going to play again this week. So college football,
Baylor athletic director and college Football Playoff chair Mac Rhodes
has stepped away from both positions.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
He's been in hot water this year, saying them the move.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
ESPN reports that it is not connected to the altercation
that he apparently had with a Baylor football player earlier
this year.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
And assistant coach, Right, yeah, what luck went on? Yeah?
I get I gotta note, like I know Mac and
I can. I've only known him to be a remarkably
good athletic director. I don't know about the workings on there,
but that's a that's a big thing. What just happened?
Speaker 7 (36:49):
You just mentioned it. Padres could possibly be sold.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Forbes says they're worth one point eight billion dollars, but
the side of their family over the past few months
have analyzed what they want to do and they are
centering a sale of the franchise.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
You don't consider a sale and then pull it back though, right,
that doesn't happen. So it's a lot like Hey, you
hit the divorce vorce lawyer. You're like, hey, we're just
thinking about getting divorced. No, it's over. It's it's over.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
And while there is Football Tonight between the Jets and Patriots,
there is also basketball Tonight Green Bay one and two
taking on Saint Thomas, who is also one and two.
Tip off eight a clock Eastern.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Tommy's are good. Tommy's won the seven League championship. They
opened a brand new arena where the second game in
the brand new arena here in Saint Paul, Minnesota.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
That's the press, get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
That was the press.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
You get to watch the night, not the hoops game.
You watch the NFL game night Dan.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
Yes, yes I will.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Because there's fantasy implications there. Sure absolutely I'll report back
on our score as well. Uh check out the podcast.
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