November 18, 2025 • 39 mins
On this installment of "Tuesday Morning Quarterback", Doug and the crew share the NFL stories that were largely ignored on Monday. Doug welcomes college football Insider Brett McMurphy onto the show to talk about the Lane Kiffin situation, the college football playoff, and all of the major headlines around college football. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through "The Press".
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We'll get his thoughts on all of these open jobs
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and what happens. But we'd like to do this on
a Tuesday. You know, we don't all get memos on what.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
To talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
But it is pretty easy to talk about the main
headlines in an NFL weekend, but there's lots of things
that go by the wayside we may have missed. We
get to it with Tuesday morning Quarterback in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well, Tuesday, to kid.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
This is Tuesday morning Quarterback in the afternoon. Mondays can
be overwhelming. Tuesdays are getting to whatever we didn't get
to on Monday. Yeah, this is Tuesday morning Quarterback in
the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay, let's get to Dan Bayer. Dan, do you sit
in the studio on a Sunday afternoon? And I'm sure
there's a million and things going on and something that
you're like, Man, I wish I would have gotten to it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Well, Doug, I was ready to take the low hanging
fruit that is Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy and just really
how awful he has been and the narrative around JJ
McCarthy finally started to see it over the last couple
of weeks of Yeah, I don't care about the fourth
quarter heroics. There's major issues with JJ McCarthy awful throws
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throughout the day against the Chicago Bears. But I want
to talk about the team that the Vikings lost to,
and that is those Chicago Bears, because in my algorithm
on tiktop TikTok, I have seen it on X the
Bears getting a lot of love as they are the
top team now in the NFC North, sitting there at
seven and three, and it's a Bears team, Doug, that
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I think that people are starting to really fall in
love with. And I'm wondering why, like, why is this
Bears team becoming a algorithm lover? And I think it's
Ben Johnson. But I want to warn people because I
don't think that the Bears are actually that good. When
you look at what the Bears have done in their
last five six games. They've won three in a row.
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They've now won seven of eight. They've gotten wins against
the Vikings saved by a kick return at the end
of the game that basically put them in field goal position.
They needed Jackson Dart to get knocked out of a
game against the Giants in the to win and rally
in the fourth quarter. Heck, they needed the Bengals to
make an awful attempt to tackle Colston Loveland to survive.
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Against Cincinnati, they barely beat the Ouajins. They barely beat
the Saints. They beat the Saints by twelve, but they
barely got past the Commanders on a crazy night in
DC a few weeks back, and then they won a
wild affair against the Raiders. You want to talk about
the worst of the worst that the Bears have been
beating and doing so just barely. It's that string and
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reality is about to welcome the Chicago Bears, as they've
got matchups with the Packers coming up in a couple
of weeks, two of them. They got the Steelers this weekend,
a trip to Philadelphia on Black Friday, So enjoy it now.
Bears fans, and I'm not rubbing it into their face.
It's just the point of I don't think they're seven
and three good, and I think we're about to find
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out that's just the case over these next couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Fools Gold Bears are fools Gold. Yes, Dan Byer Caleb.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Williams is running around running for his life at some
times throwing rocket balls as Mike Hogrin used to call them,
But there isn't. They are running the ball better like
Swift and and young Guy are a much better duo
than maybe we would have thought at the beginning of
the season. I think they have a better run game.
But for all of the tweets that we see Bears
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on top of the division first time since twenty eighteen,
Adam Schefter sent one of those today, they're on top
of the division via record, But I don't think as
a team they are the best team in the NFC
North by a long shot.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
No can I catch I First of all, I completely
agree with you completely. It's one of the things that
drives me crazy about the NFL that we do in
college football but we refuse to do in the NFL,
which is take schedule into play right.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
We just don't you know.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Bears wins are over the Cowboys, the Raiders, the Commanders,
the Saints, the Bengals, the Giants, the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Those are the wins. Are any of those playoff teams? No?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
No, So does it take away from the fact that
last year they couldn't beat the non playoff teams? No, Listen,
it would be fair to say, hey, the last couple
of years they couldn't beat anybody playoffs, non playoffs, so
it's improvement.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
But let me know after they play.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
The Eagles Packers back to back games, how this Bears
team looks right?
Speaker 7 (05:57):
And Doug, you and Dan are not, and maybe Jason
are not. The only ones that are skeptical of the
Bears are very own. Jonas Knox, who's been a Bears
fan his whole life, I believe a week or two
ago on The Challenge on NBC here in Los Angeles,
he said that they were the worst six and three
team he's ever seen. So put that into consideration that, yeah,
the record is nice, but it might be fool's gold,
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as Jason called him.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay, let's get to Jason Stewart take it up.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
The sam I'll take it from here.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Sorry to switching things around on my board. There slow
in the draw man, the back to you, Jason.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
I want the Chiefs to make the playoffs. That's that's
the headline. Here's the filler.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Last year I talked Dan Bayer into it's an amazing
storyline that we should get paid more attention to that
the Chiefs are going after the third straight Super Bowl championship.
Nobody had ever done it, especially in in our lifetimes anyways,
So we should appreciate greatness, and we have great things
to talk about with greatness. Now I need them to
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get into the playoffs. You guys, ever watch like your
favorite movie or your favorite maybe you're streaming a good
series and the villain that you invest nine episodes in,
the great character that took a lot of writing and
a lot of build up, is just kind of killed
off quickly at the end, like shot to death, and
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you're like, wait a minute, I invested all this time
for him just to be shot. There was no elongated scene,
no suffering. I don't want somebody to be a super
Bowl champ or win the AFC without going through the Chiefs.
It seems like if this is going to be the
end of the dynasty, I want them to at the
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very least be able to defend themselves in the playoffs
and get beaten in the playoffs before the dynasty ends.
If they don't make the playoffs, it'll be kind of
anti climact. So I'm rooting for the Chiefs to get in.
I don't they don't need to win once they get in,
but I think it would be a good story for
the NFL if the Chiefs didn't come up short and
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not make the playoffs. Does that make sense to you all?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I think the lasting image of the Titans beating Tom
Brady and the Patriots in that wild Card round game
where Brady gets picked off at the end because they
were backed up for a pick six, like that is
an end to the dynasty, like to that point. So
when you're doing the documentaries, I mean, unfortunately, we've had
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like eight on the Patriots already and it's only been
like five years. But the point being is you need
that sort of conclusion. And I felt that because the
Titans beat the Patriots, it felt like, Okay, you knocked
them out in the playoffs, like that's the end. I agree,
with Jason.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
I mean, if you're like the Knicks and or the
Rockets of ninety four, that had to feel pretty empty.
Nicks went in the East and the Rockets win in
the title. Nobody had to go through Jordan. You know
there was no villain to hand the baton to or.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
So, Jason, you're saying that the Chiefs deserve of true
villain's death, like falling into a vat of acid and
burning up slowly.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
I got that.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Just something really dramatic acid.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Okay, I'm gonna go here, Sammy, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Dan Campbell is making the classic mistake that coaches make,
which is he's feeling himself. Feeling himself. So look, Dan
Campbell played what a decade in the Nation Football League
as a tight end, and he's hired obviously very very
good coaches. We talked about Ben Johnson, or at least
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Dan Byer did earlier. Nowhere in his coaching career has
he called plays. And so his answer to the Lions
offense struggling with a new play caller is to call plays.
And what it looks like is he's a guy who
he we call it, we call it Twitter play call
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it right. If you go on to Twitter or you
go on to X whatever you want to call it,
and if it's in your algorithm, you'll see some awesome
sets in basketball, college, high school, overseas, pro, NBA.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And you can pick out a couple of them.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Okay, but you can't just run a couple of cool
plays and hope to be good offensively. It has to
kind of all work together. People have raved at about
Dan Campbell's you know, his forward thinking, go forward on
fourth down, and even if you don't get it, don't
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worry about These are mistakes, but aggressive mistakes. So you
factor in that he's going for it on fourth down
just because well that's what we do. He's calling plays
when he hasn't called plays before, and he's not doing
what really smart people, and I think Dan is really
smart people do, which is hire people who know what
you don't know and then let them do their job.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
This is the hardest thing for me, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And look, I haven't had the success of Dan Campbell yet,
haven't had it yet, but I hired some really good
assistant coaches, and I find myself during games, especially we're
playing a big game against Minnesota Saturday, asking it, Hey,
your opinion, who do you want in there defensively? I
know what I want to do offensively, but it's got
to marry with who you trust in there, so we're
working all together. I let them call the defense and
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switch it. I'll let them call the guys who I
have a coach who's coached for fifty years. If he says, hey,
make this adjustment offensively, I'm gonna listen to him. And
I just think that Dan Campbell, there's a lot of
things off about the Lions, but the biggest thing that's
off is you took away their superpower, which was creative
play calling. And you had a guy who previously maligned
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was like your new Matt Ryan, just accurate as hell,
steady as hell.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Now he's a mess. And I think that's because you.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Have an inexperienced play caller who's the coach is kind
of feeling himself and doing what they do even though
he's never done this play calling before.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Isn't him taking over the play calling an admission that
he chose wrong for the offensive coordinator. Isn't this him
kind of midstream admitting a mistake And this is the
only thing you can think of to remedy.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
This probably probably but you know again, when you said, hey,
I'll do it myself, and then you draw outside the lines,
you know you're sitting there going what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
But yes, it does feel that way.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Remember they lost both coordinators to head coaching jobs, yep.
And those guys will also take their guys that they
have on staff.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Sure, So anybody they're close with they relate to, they're
bringing with them because they're going to elevate them.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Correct. So like Tanner Engstrand is the Jets offensive coordinator,
he was the Lion's passing game coordinator last season. That
could have been a natural fit, but instead Aaron Glenn
takes him to New York to be It's.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
The best point Dan you can make is we always
look at the very top line guys that go and
not realize that when you have success, and they had
a lot of success, it's not just your coordinators to
become head coach, it's all the other staff. And then
you're caught like, do we stick with the same verbiage?
Do we break in new verbiage? Exactly what do we do?
And they are stuck because they looked mystified by the Eagles,
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just mystified by the Eagles, Sam, what do you got?
Speaker 7 (13:38):
So I looked this up. The Chargers are actually slight
road favorites against the Jaguars this past weekend. So when
the Jaguars won thirty five to six, a beatdown over
a good Charger team, a beat up, but a good
Charters team, I was surprised. And it left me with
the question are the Jaguars actually good? And I think
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that the jury is still out on that they.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Have nice Well, let me help you with that. What
is good?
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Well good as a playoff team. They look like they're
headed for the playoffs. They've got some nice wins. They've
got to win over a Carolina team that has is
over five hundred, a Houston team that looks like it's
figuring things out. I know they will.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
CJ. Strode back.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
They've went over the Niners, they went over the Chiefs,
and they've went over the Chargers. And then I look
at Trevor Lawrence, who this is his fifth year in
the league, and I just don't know. He's still a mystery.
He doesn't have any three hundred yard passing games this year.
He has six games with just one touchdown pass and
he has one game with three touchdown passes, but that
was a loss. So he's he's not he's in the
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let's see he's in. Just looking at my mini tabs
open here, I'm just gonna say he's well. On a second,
he's bottom half of the league in touchdown passes, he's
bottom half of the league in interceptions, he's top half
in in passing yards, and then his quarterback rating is
pretty low. So the Jaguars are a mystery because you
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don't have Liam Cohen has doesn't have a long track
record as a head coach. Obviously, Trevor Lawrence is up
and down, and the running game is good. But I
just I wonder this, what if you took Daniel Jones
from the AFC South leading Indianapolis Colton, you put him
on the Jags and you put Trevor Lawrence on the
Colts with that offensive line and Jonathan Taylor. What kind
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of result would you have? Because when he was coming
out of when Trevor Lawrence was coming out of Clemson,
you know, he looked like a surefire Pro Bowl quarterback.
And it's been up and down.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
No, he's one of the highest, the highest rated draftees
we've seen.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
And that was wrong. That was dead wrong. The can't
miss thing, you can't say can't miss mediocre career.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
So what do we How would you term it? Jay Stu?
Would you go very unlikely to miss? No, I'm asking.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I'm not being Syracuse, I'm not being a jerk in
any way. I'm saying, like, honestly, how would you guys
word it? Because you're right, like the whole camp miss
thing you could miss?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And they did.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
He had a twenty five and eight season in twenty
twenty two. Was that the year they beat the Chargers
and that comeback?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yes? Right?
Speaker 7 (16:07):
And then he had a twenty one touchdown fourteen interception
and last year, I know it was bad, only eleven touchdowns.
This year he's got eleven so far. But what he'll
probably finish with I don't know, sixteen to eighteen. So
he's just kind of middle of the pack right now
in terms of his so far in his career.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I think your question on whether the Jaguar, that's ultimately
whether the Jaguars for real, And it goes back to
when you talk about who they beat. I think that
you have to take them seriously considering the wins over
the teams that they have maybe the forty nine Ers
weren't playing as well as they could be now with
the healthy Brock party, but they beat him in week four.
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They beat the Panthers in Week one. Guess what Panthers
are sitting there at six and five? They beat the Chiefs,
destroyed the Chargers. I understand that the Chargers had a
Sunday night game, a physical matchup against the Steelers, and
then you're playing across the country Sunday, one o'clock Eastern
time kick. It's tough to do, but that's not thirty
five to six like that's like, So at least give
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them credit for that. And you've got two more games
coming up against you haven't played the Titans yet this year.
You've got a game against the Cardinals that's winnable this Sunday.
And you have the Jets side for the fact that
you have two divisional games against the Colts that if
you do beat them, you could be in the thick
of it for winning your division. Whether we believe in
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them or not. The Jaguars are going to be there
at the end.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Can I just say one more thing. I was about
ready to start fading the Jaguars when they were losing
three of four games, and their only winning there was
an overtime win over the hapless Raiders. But that thirty
five to six win over the Chargers, I was like, wow,
well it was very impressive.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Also, look at who they lost in those three of
the four Seahawks and rams up to of the better teams.
They actually were beating the Texans. They were up nineteen
in that game and Houston had the crazy comeback scores,
the defensive touchdown at the end. So yeah, a game
that they should have won. They'd tell you that they
should have won that one and maybe would have been
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more of a case to be one of the teams.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
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Speaker 2 (18:37):
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Speaker 3 (18:45):
This song resonates to me and I had I have
some really close friends, the Costers in Kenton, Connecticut. They
always went to Aruba, always went to Ruba's the Dutch.
It's it's province of Netherlands, right, believe so? And he
is John is half Dutch, I believe yeah. So they've
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always gone. But it's that song. That song is what
makes me like, yeah, I'd love to go to Ruba. Why,
I don't know. It sounds amazing. What do you mean
it sounds amazing? Well, the Beach Boys song about it,
you know, about thirty years ago when they dropped that song.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Doug, you can use that song as just like your
list to check off of countries and island nations to visit.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
There for you, Ooh, I wanna take it to Bermuda, Bahama.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Come on, pretty mama.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
That song is not about a Ruba by the way.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
He's just you know, there's a lot of places to
visit and that that gives you a nice easy list
to go off of.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I got it.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Brett McMurphy joins us here in the Doug Gottlieb show.
He's from the On three network. Ahead, damn by aer
you want to get in?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Sorry, Well, I was just gonna say Key Largo is
in Florida. It is well, so.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
It is, it is well.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Key Largo is in the is in the Caribbean though, Right,
it's a Key island south of Florida.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Right, No, it's a part of Florida. It's one of
the the islands. Yeah, but it's not like it's when
you're going to uh, the Virgin Islands, Like that's nowhere
close to Florida.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
If you stop Key Largo's that's your first stop because
you're going you're going uh south north to south, you.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Go, you go, baby, why don't we go south? Brett
McMurphy joints us. Have you ever been the Caribbean?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Brett?
Speaker 8 (20:28):
I have not, but I have Key Largo on the right.
Key West.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Uh, you know what I'll have to We'll have to
effort that one right now.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
No, it is, He's right, it's on its way.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
I've been to Key West one time. I drove the
other time.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, Key West is the furthest most Key Key Largo
is close one right, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Key West is the very bottom bottom bottom of Florida. Yes,
like six hours from Miami shows how far away it is.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Six hours.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Well, it's a it's a two lane road. It's you
can't go over forty So that's part part of the reason.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
All right, I appreciate it, Breck McMurphy sharing it with us,
bringing up because we're I'm taking my team in the
US Virgin Islands.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
We're going tomorrow. Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Sam hasn't been since he was a wee bit child,
so his advice isn't really great and they're just kind
of we're psyching ourselves up for the trip.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, Okay, Lane Kiffin, his family is in Gainesville, his
family's in Baton Rouge, or maybe he's not going anywhere.
What's what's the real story with Lane Kiffin right now?
Speaker 8 (21:40):
He's going to Ruba. I mean, come on, the real
story is he knows himself yet what he's going to do.
He mentioned, you know today when he we did an
interview with with McAfee that there is no ultimatum on
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him making a decision. We had on three have reported differently,
and we stand by well reported. I'm not saying Lane's
not telling the truth, but I'm just saying he's maybe
has a different version of what's going on. Basically, Ole
Miss wants a decision before probably before the end of
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this weekend. They don't want to go into next week's
game against Misissippi State not knowing if Kippen is going
to return in twenty twenty six or nine. So the
next question is, and I'll ask you, Doug, as a
head coach, what's the if you tell your athletic director, yeah,
I'm not going to resign because I'm taking another job
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somewhere else. Should you be allowed to coach in the playoffs?
And that's a real question that ole miss is going
to have. I've asked a number of ads about it.
I've got to as you can imagine, a bunch of
different answers. A lot of them reference the g. Schimbeckler
I want a Michigan man to coach Michigan when he
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changed coaches in the eighty nine NCAA tournament and then
Steve Fisher went on and won the national title. I
don't have any inside information. You asked what I think
my opinion strictly, strictly, my opinion is he will not
coach at all this next year. I do not know
if he will be at LSU or Florida.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
There is it that much more money Doug gets.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
I don't think money has anything to do with it.
I think it's I think it's a personal choice. He's
going to get. The money's going to be the same
or similar enough no matter where he goes. So it's
now a personal choice. And the thing I keep hearing
about why would he go to Florida? Why would he
go to LSU. If he goes there and he goes
eight and four, he's going to get fired. Well, guess what,
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Lane Kiffin's not going somewhere for a job, so he
can go eight and four not get fired. He wants
to go somewhere where he can win a national championship.
And yes, I know ole Miss is in the playoffs.
He can win a national championship and ole Miss, but
I would say Lane Kiffin has gotten old Miss to
that that level, not ole Miss got Lane to that level.
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Where if you go to Florida or LSU, those schools
have already established it. Multiple coaches have come to those
programs and won national championships. So now the question is
what is the difference between ole Miss, between Florida between LSU.
Do you feel like you can win a national championship?
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Got off three places? Is it a heavier lift at
one of those places also, is there. You know he's
got ties to Florida. You know his wife is the
daughter of former Florida coach John Reeves. His dad, obviously,
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Monti Kiffen was a long time since coordinator with Tampa
Bay Bucks. He's been in Florida lot obviously is at
Florida Atlantic. I don't think that comes into play at all.
So he has some ties there. Does that play into
the personal side of it? I don't know the LSU.
Whenever I talk to coaches, and I love ed Odern,
but the number one thing they say to me is
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if ed Odron can win a national title at LSU,
so can I Does that make that attractive? But then
you've got the flip side where you've got the governor
sticking his nose in different things. Do you want to
deal with that or do you just want to stay
at Ole miss because what you've accomplished, what you can
accomplish moving forward. Again, I don't think it's a it's
(25:38):
a definite answer, and it would probably be a different
answer for different people. But I think that's kind of
all the things he's kind of trying to digest. People
close to him, don't don't know what he's going to do.
I don't necessarily know if if Lane knows what he
wants to do, but I do know Ole Miss wants
to know because they're challenge Doug if he does lead.
(26:02):
They want to be able to go in and get
who they want to get and potentially not lose that
candidate to another SEC school or maybe one of these
other jobs that are open s.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the
voice of Brett McMurphy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Again, like that, that doesn't that doesn't make that the
I'm not saying your reporting doesn't make sense, but a
lot of it. If you're if you're happy, and your
program is financially supported and you can use this to
get more financial sport, if you can buy more players
(26:37):
and you're in the same league, I don't understand why
you leave, right, Like, I get that Florida you know,
has been and traditionally more prestigious, but is it really
now like is it?
Speaker 8 (26:51):
I don't know? You I mean, and again this was
you know earlier, not this season, but you know there
were times, you know, when Kiffen was was having to
go to the frat houses and sorty houses just thrum
up attendance to the games where if you know, fans
were all leaving at halftime and stuff, I mean some
of that stuff. You know, you don't have to deal
(27:11):
with that a Florida or an LSU. Is that enough
to decide to go to another school? You know? I
don't know. I think obviously NIL changes changes a lot
of things. Transfer, portal changes things. So the old Misses
of the world are not the is not the old
old Miss. Texas Tech can now compete on a level
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that they never had before because of all this, so
can all miss. But again, you know, forget about every Saturday,
but the other three hundred and sixty four days a year,
how does old Miss compare financially and resource wise with
the LSU and Florida? I would say those teams are
in a better position. Is it always going to be
(27:55):
that way now? And then you know, I know, we
just I'm mentioning portal and all that stuff. But you know,
recruiting wise, Florida is arguably, if not the best, It's
one of the top two states in the country as
far as high school recruits for football. So you're sitting there,
you know, and then you look at all the pro
players LSUS is put out every year. Again, those are
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some of the advantages that you have at either one
of those schools. And the other thing is which this is. Look,
this is the case no matter where you're at, if
you're if you're kipping, and you know, whatever happens, you
stayed on this, you go to the playoffs or whatever,
and you don't get to the playoffs next year, this
is gonna be again. It's like this everywhere, but it's
(28:41):
like it's a disappointment where you go into LSU and Florida.
Not that he needs to reset his clock, because in
no way is the end under any pressure, but you
know how that is once you're in a place for
a certain amount of time, I think fans get sick
of coaches.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
And yeah, there's an expression Brett in coaching where it's
you making you make an enemy every.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Year you're there, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
And.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
You know even without trying, you're gonna make an enemy
every year you'ar there. And I mean, look, my Gundy's
the perfect example. Granted last two years weren't good enough,
but here's the guy who literally built a program from
scratch to being the best program in the Big twelve.
And you know, a year and a half later, a
year and three games later, he's out of a job.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
Yeah. And I'm not saying, you know, Kiffen's under any
pressure or anything, but you know, you do, you know,
you do kind of start over, you start the process.
So plus quick, I would argue this is not a
move sideways, I'd say this is a move up.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
So yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's that much
of a move up as it used to be, because uh,
there's a there's a plus nimized to it. The plus
side is if you say, hey, you got to start over. Hey, honestly,
most of these schools you got to start over every
year anyway, whether you start over the same school or
a different school. But you do have to start over,
and you do have to create a culture. And I
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hate the idea of these coaches were let go mid
season just because you know, who knows what's going on
from that point in time till a coach is hired
and it's a much bigger mess to clean up. Let's
go through a couple of these what is going to
be James Franklin that becomes the first one off the board, right,
and because he doesn't have you know, you know, because
(30:28):
he has offset language in there. Now a sudden Penn states,
off the hook, we're all except for like nine million dollars.
What's the next one off the board?
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Uh, I'm going to say Florida or LSU. I think
I think I think that's because there's a you know,
there is the to call it a deadline, don't call
it deadline. There is the expectation that Ole Miss will
(31:00):
get an answer from from Kiffin before the start of
next week. So I don't I don't see any other
schools really making a move. The ones that are open.
I think everybody's kind of waiting to see what happens.
I think some of these schools that are open, you know,
maybe waiting waiting for these other coaches to finish their
(31:21):
season or at least get through the regular season. Some
of them may be involved in the playoffs, you know,
potentially some of the Group five coaches maybe uh, you know,
in the playoff mix. So yeah, as weird as it sounds,
I think maybe we get an answer from from Alsue
or Florida and it's not them make giving us an answer.
(31:42):
It's Kiffin, you know, making a decision. And then ultimately
you know, what does Ale miss? What does Ale miss decide? Yes,
you're going to coach in the playoff or no, move
on and good luck at your next job.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
If it's not Kiffin, then who gets those jobs? Who's
who's the next? Who's the next Florida?
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Huh at Florida? Yeah, at Florida. I would again, my
reading the tea leaves I think Jed Fish of Washington,
what have a great shot? He is a former grad
assistant at Florida or the Spurrier. There house ties to
the school, which is obviously a benefit. I would put
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him at one A. I would put one B at
Eli Drinkwitz Missouri.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
And then other big jobs come come open, right. Then
Missouri's open, right, and then Washington's open? And then who
gets those jobs? And that's why everybody wants to know?
And yet we still have games let to be played.
Like in a previous generation, you would have thought before
the Egg Bowl, there's no way you make this decision.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
But here here we are. Last thing, who's going to
get our own motor shop?
Speaker 8 (32:56):
Well? Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
From I've heard some roll from Tulane's big time. I've
already wants an SEC job.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
He'll be in the SEC. Yeah, he'll be in this.
I like that's one of the I think that's somebody
will Miss could go after if they lease kids. It's him.
I think Arkansas could excuse me, Auburn would be a
possibility for some raw. I think I would say some raw,
either Ole Miss or Auburn. Eric Morrison, North Texas. I've
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heard him is a potential landing spot for Oklahoma State.
But then I've heard he may be looking at another
job that's not open. So I don't want to repeat
it in a public forum, so I'll text you privately.
Alex Golish of the US was the candidate. I don't
know if the lost. The Navy kind of him his
(33:51):
star a little bit. Colin Kleine, the offense coordinator at
A and M. I think it's a possibility for the
Cowboys and maybe willmac Its Alabama, their defensive coordinator, former
head coach in a sunbelt. I think are there. I
think are the top four right now?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Awesome Brett, great stuff. I'll look forward to that text.
Let's talk offline. Love what you do.
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Let's get to Dan Byer with the press.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
The press, All right, Doug, we start with the robbery
of Shador Sanders home. Police in Ohio said more than
two hundred thousand dollars worth of property was stolen from
Shador's home while he was making his NFL regular season
debut on Sunday. Breaking lasted twelve minutes. They've got footage
(35:15):
of the suspects on a security camera entering and exiting
the home, but right now, no one is in custody.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I mean again, you can like or just like Shdor Sanders,
just like what I guess.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Part of it is criminals have gotten smart, but part
of it is like, this is what we're doing now.
And I know it's happened in LA for the last
couple of years or waiting until athletes are at work
and everybody knows they're at work, and then we're robbing
their homes.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Yeah. And the crazy thing was this happened at about
it was six point thirty Eastern, so about three thirty Pacific,
And it was around that time that Shador Sanders was
entering the game for the first time, because when Gabriel
got knocked out, all of a sudden, Sor came in.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But well you do know where he.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Is, yes, exactly. There's been a string of athletes having
their homes broken into over the past few months, so
Shador now a victim of that, but about two hundred
thousand dollars worth of property stolen. Aaron Rodgers has a
fractured left wrist, but he hasn't been ruled out of
playing against the Bears on Sunday. If he can't go,
(36:22):
Mason Rudolph gets the start against.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Chicago, Mason Rudolph my guy, and remember he's taken them
to the playoffs before, albeit as more of just a
facilitator than anything else. But Rogers' career ending with an
injury would be be suboptimal obviously, but it would be
(36:44):
right along the lines of what happened to Brett favre M.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
You know.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Golden State Warriors forward Draymond Green was given a warning
by the NBA following his interaction with a fan during
Sunday's game in New Orleans. Draymond has sproke spoken about
the incident, saying that the fan kept on calling him
Angel Reese. He said, it was funny at first, but
it didn't stop, and so that's why he ended up
confronting the fan.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
That makes sense. It's like, you gotta get the line.
Great now, you got a bunch of lines too many?
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Yes, it was he said that, Yeah, he missed a
shot earlier, got his rebound, missed again, got his rebound,
and that's why, like even Draymond said, like, okay, I
get it. But then when you keep on going with it,
he had to say something. But it also when you
see Draymond doing that, you're like, oh, here we go again,
(37:34):
can't confront fans even if he had every right to well.
Lebron James remains questionable Fortnight's game against the Utah Jazz.
He says that this is a no doubt or that
he will not play in the twenty twenty eight Olympics.
On the Mind the Game podcast that he does with
Steve Nash, Lebron says he's completely ruled himself out of
playing in the LA Summer Games, while Steph Curry says
(37:57):
it's unlikely he'll play in the twenty twenty eight Olympics.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, that's gonna be crazy, right.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
So we're three years away from having from a host
in the Olympics, and it feels like we're gonna have
a completely new group representing us in basketball and that
that doesn't seem like a great idea. Like if we
were gonna pick our team right now, Dan, who has
(38:23):
to be on it?
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (38:24):
I don't, I don't. I mean, I know, but I'm.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Just saying, like, who are the best American born NBA
players that will be around in three years? Is Tyrese
MAXI gonna be our kind of go to score right?
Jalen Brunson Jalen Brown, because the world has Victor webin Yama,
(38:48):
the world has shaved Gildses Alexander, the world has Luka Doncik,
the world has Giannis, the world has others.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Who are we gonna have? I don't know Jokic, I
don't know who we're gonna have.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
That's the press.
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and what happens. But we'd like to do this on
a Tuesday. You know, we don't all get memos on what.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
To talk about.
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But it is pretty easy to talk about the main
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that go by the wayside we may have missed. We
get to it with Tuesday morning Quarterback in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well, Tuesday, to kid.
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This is Tuesday morning Quarterback in the afternoon. Mondays can
be overwhelming. Tuesdays are getting to whatever we didn't get
to on Monday. Yeah, this is Tuesday morning Quarterback in
the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay, let's get to Dan Bayer. Dan, do you sit
in the studio on a Sunday afternoon? And I'm sure
there's a million and things going on and something that
you're like, Man, I wish I would have gotten to it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Well, Doug, I was ready to take the low hanging
fruit that is Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy and just really
how awful he has been and the narrative around JJ
McCarthy finally started to see it over the last couple
of weeks of Yeah, I don't care about the fourth
quarter heroics. There's major issues with JJ McCarthy awful throws
(02:30):
throughout the day against the Chicago Bears. But I want
to talk about the team that the Vikings lost to,
and that is those Chicago Bears, because in my algorithm
on tiktop TikTok, I have seen it on X the
Bears getting a lot of love as they are the
top team now in the NFC North, sitting there at
seven and three, and it's a Bears team, Doug, that
(02:53):
I think that people are starting to really fall in
love with. And I'm wondering why, like, why is this
Bears team becoming a algorithm lover? And I think it's
Ben Johnson. But I want to warn people because I
don't think that the Bears are actually that good. When
you look at what the Bears have done in their
last five six games. They've won three in a row.
(03:15):
They've now won seven of eight. They've gotten wins against
the Vikings saved by a kick return at the end
of the game that basically put them in field goal position.
They needed Jackson Dart to get knocked out of a
game against the Giants in the to win and rally
in the fourth quarter. Heck, they needed the Bengals to
make an awful attempt to tackle Colston Loveland to survive.
(03:39):
Against Cincinnati, they barely beat the Ouajins. They barely beat
the Saints. They beat the Saints by twelve, but they
barely got past the Commanders on a crazy night in
DC a few weeks back, and then they won a
wild affair against the Raiders. You want to talk about
the worst of the worst that the Bears have been
beating and doing so just barely. It's that string and
(04:02):
reality is about to welcome the Chicago Bears, as they've
got matchups with the Packers coming up in a couple
of weeks, two of them. They got the Steelers this weekend,
a trip to Philadelphia on Black Friday, So enjoy it now.
Bears fans, and I'm not rubbing it into their face.
It's just the point of I don't think they're seven
and three good, and I think we're about to find
(04:23):
out that's just the case over these next couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Fools Gold Bears are fools Gold. Yes, Dan Byer Caleb.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Williams is running around running for his life at some
times throwing rocket balls as Mike Hogrin used to call them,
But there isn't. They are running the ball better like
Swift and and young Guy are a much better duo
than maybe we would have thought at the beginning of
the season. I think they have a better run game.
But for all of the tweets that we see Bears
(04:53):
on top of the division first time since twenty eighteen,
Adam Schefter sent one of those today, they're on top
of the division via record, But I don't think as
a team they are the best team in the NFC
North by a long shot.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
No can I catch I First of all, I completely
agree with you completely. It's one of the things that
drives me crazy about the NFL that we do in
college football but we refuse to do in the NFL,
which is take schedule into play right.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
We just don't you know.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Bears wins are over the Cowboys, the Raiders, the Commanders,
the Saints, the Bengals, the Giants, the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Those are the wins. Are any of those playoff teams? No?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
No, So does it take away from the fact that
last year they couldn't beat the non playoff teams? No, Listen,
it would be fair to say, hey, the last couple
of years they couldn't beat anybody playoffs, non playoffs, so
it's improvement.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
But let me know after they play.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
The Eagles Packers back to back games, how this Bears
team looks right?
Speaker 7 (05:57):
And Doug, you and Dan are not, and maybe Jason
are not. The only ones that are skeptical of the
Bears are very own. Jonas Knox, who's been a Bears
fan his whole life, I believe a week or two
ago on The Challenge on NBC here in Los Angeles,
he said that they were the worst six and three
team he's ever seen. So put that into consideration that, yeah,
the record is nice, but it might be fool's gold,
(06:20):
as Jason called him.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay, let's get to Jason Stewart take it up.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
The sam I'll take it from here.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Sorry to switching things around on my board. There slow
in the draw man, the back to you, Jason.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
I want the Chiefs to make the playoffs. That's that's
the headline. Here's the filler.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Last year I talked Dan Bayer into it's an amazing
storyline that we should get paid more attention to that
the Chiefs are going after the third straight Super Bowl championship.
Nobody had ever done it, especially in in our lifetimes anyways,
So we should appreciate greatness, and we have great things
to talk about with greatness. Now I need them to
(07:10):
get into the playoffs. You guys, ever watch like your
favorite movie or your favorite maybe you're streaming a good
series and the villain that you invest nine episodes in,
the great character that took a lot of writing and
a lot of build up, is just kind of killed
off quickly at the end, like shot to death, and
(07:31):
you're like, wait a minute, I invested all this time
for him just to be shot. There was no elongated scene,
no suffering. I don't want somebody to be a super
Bowl champ or win the AFC without going through the Chiefs.
It seems like if this is going to be the
end of the dynasty, I want them to at the
(07:51):
very least be able to defend themselves in the playoffs
and get beaten in the playoffs before the dynasty ends.
If they don't make the playoffs, it'll be kind of
anti climact. So I'm rooting for the Chiefs to get in.
I don't they don't need to win once they get in,
but I think it would be a good story for
the NFL if the Chiefs didn't come up short and
(08:11):
not make the playoffs. Does that make sense to you all?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I think the lasting image of the Titans beating Tom
Brady and the Patriots in that wild Card round game
where Brady gets picked off at the end because they
were backed up for a pick six, like that is
an end to the dynasty, like to that point. So
when you're doing the documentaries, I mean, unfortunately, we've had
(08:36):
like eight on the Patriots already and it's only been
like five years. But the point being is you need
that sort of conclusion. And I felt that because the
Titans beat the Patriots, it felt like, Okay, you knocked
them out in the playoffs, like that's the end. I agree,
with Jason.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
I mean, if you're like the Knicks and or the
Rockets of ninety four, that had to feel pretty empty.
Nicks went in the East and the Rockets win in
the title. Nobody had to go through Jordan. You know
there was no villain to hand the baton to or.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
So, Jason, you're saying that the Chiefs deserve of true
villain's death, like falling into a vat of acid and
burning up slowly.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
I got that.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Just something really dramatic acid.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Okay, I'm gonna go here, Sammy, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Dan Campbell is making the classic mistake that coaches make,
which is he's feeling himself. Feeling himself. So look, Dan
Campbell played what a decade in the Nation Football League
as a tight end, and he's hired obviously very very
good coaches. We talked about Ben Johnson, or at least
(09:53):
Dan Byer did earlier. Nowhere in his coaching career has
he called plays. And so his answer to the Lions
offense struggling with a new play caller is to call plays.
And what it looks like is he's a guy who
he we call it, we call it Twitter play call
(10:13):
it right. If you go on to Twitter or you
go on to X whatever you want to call it,
and if it's in your algorithm, you'll see some awesome
sets in basketball, college, high school, overseas, pro, NBA.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And you can pick out a couple of them.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Okay, but you can't just run a couple of cool
plays and hope to be good offensively. It has to
kind of all work together. People have raved at about
Dan Campbell's you know, his forward thinking, go forward on
fourth down, and even if you don't get it, don't
(10:48):
worry about These are mistakes, but aggressive mistakes. So you
factor in that he's going for it on fourth down
just because well that's what we do. He's calling plays
when he hasn't called plays before, and he's not doing
what really smart people, and I think Dan is really
smart people do, which is hire people who know what
you don't know and then let them do their job.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
This is the hardest thing for me, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And look, I haven't had the success of Dan Campbell yet,
haven't had it yet, but I hired some really good
assistant coaches, and I find myself during games, especially we're
playing a big game against Minnesota Saturday, asking it, Hey,
your opinion, who do you want in there defensively? I
know what I want to do offensively, but it's got
to marry with who you trust in there, so we're
working all together. I let them call the defense and
(11:33):
switch it. I'll let them call the guys who I
have a coach who's coached for fifty years. If he says, hey,
make this adjustment offensively, I'm gonna listen to him. And
I just think that Dan Campbell, there's a lot of
things off about the Lions, but the biggest thing that's
off is you took away their superpower, which was creative
play calling. And you had a guy who previously maligned
(11:55):
was like your new Matt Ryan, just accurate as hell,
steady as hell.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Now he's a mess. And I think that's because you.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Have an inexperienced play caller who's the coach is kind
of feeling himself and doing what they do even though
he's never done this play calling before.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Isn't him taking over the play calling an admission that
he chose wrong for the offensive coordinator. Isn't this him
kind of midstream admitting a mistake And this is the
only thing you can think of to remedy.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
This probably probably but you know again, when you said, hey,
I'll do it myself, and then you draw outside the lines,
you know you're sitting there going what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
But yes, it does feel that way.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Remember they lost both coordinators to head coaching jobs, yep.
And those guys will also take their guys that they
have on staff.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Sure, So anybody they're close with they relate to, they're
bringing with them because they're going to elevate them.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Correct. So like Tanner Engstrand is the Jets offensive coordinator,
he was the Lion's passing game coordinator last season. That
could have been a natural fit, but instead Aaron Glenn
takes him to New York to be It's.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
The best point Dan you can make is we always
look at the very top line guys that go and
not realize that when you have success, and they had
a lot of success, it's not just your coordinators to
become head coach, it's all the other staff. And then
you're caught like, do we stick with the same verbiage?
Do we break in new verbiage? Exactly what do we do?
And they are stuck because they looked mystified by the Eagles,
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just mystified by the Eagles, Sam, what do you got?
Speaker 7 (13:38):
So I looked this up. The Chargers are actually slight
road favorites against the Jaguars this past weekend. So when
the Jaguars won thirty five to six, a beatdown over
a good Charger team, a beat up, but a good
Charters team, I was surprised. And it left me with
the question are the Jaguars actually good? And I think
(13:58):
that the jury is still out on that they.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Have nice Well, let me help you with that. What
is good?
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Well good as a playoff team. They look like they're
headed for the playoffs. They've got some nice wins. They've
got to win over a Carolina team that has is
over five hundred, a Houston team that looks like it's
figuring things out. I know they will.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
CJ. Strode back.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
They've went over the Niners, they went over the Chiefs,
and they've went over the Chargers. And then I look
at Trevor Lawrence, who this is his fifth year in
the league, and I just don't know. He's still a mystery.
He doesn't have any three hundred yard passing games this year.
He has six games with just one touchdown pass and
he has one game with three touchdown passes, but that
was a loss. So he's he's not he's in the
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let's see he's in. Just looking at my mini tabs
open here, I'm just gonna say he's well. On a second,
he's bottom half of the league in touchdown passes, he's
bottom half of the league in interceptions, he's top half
in in passing yards, and then his quarterback rating is
pretty low. So the Jaguars are a mystery because you
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don't have Liam Cohen has doesn't have a long track
record as a head coach. Obviously, Trevor Lawrence is up
and down, and the running game is good. But I
just I wonder this, what if you took Daniel Jones
from the AFC South leading Indianapolis Colton, you put him
on the Jags and you put Trevor Lawrence on the
Colts with that offensive line and Jonathan Taylor. What kind
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of result would you have? Because when he was coming
out of when Trevor Lawrence was coming out of Clemson,
you know, he looked like a surefire Pro Bowl quarterback.
And it's been up and down.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
No, he's one of the highest, the highest rated draftees
we've seen.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
And that was wrong. That was dead wrong. The can't
miss thing, you can't say can't miss mediocre career.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
So what do we How would you term it? Jay Stu?
Would you go very unlikely to miss? No, I'm asking.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I'm not being Syracuse, I'm not being a jerk in
any way. I'm saying, like, honestly, how would you guys
word it? Because you're right, like the whole camp miss
thing you could miss?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And they did.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
He had a twenty five and eight season in twenty
twenty two. Was that the year they beat the Chargers
and that comeback?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yes? Right?
Speaker 7 (16:07):
And then he had a twenty one touchdown fourteen interception
and last year, I know it was bad, only eleven touchdowns.
This year he's got eleven so far. But what he'll
probably finish with I don't know, sixteen to eighteen. So
he's just kind of middle of the pack right now
in terms of his so far in his career.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I think your question on whether the Jaguar, that's ultimately
whether the Jaguars for real, And it goes back to
when you talk about who they beat. I think that
you have to take them seriously considering the wins over
the teams that they have maybe the forty nine Ers
weren't playing as well as they could be now with
the healthy Brock party, but they beat him in week four.
(16:46):
They beat the Panthers in Week one. Guess what Panthers
are sitting there at six and five? They beat the Chiefs,
destroyed the Chargers. I understand that the Chargers had a
Sunday night game, a physical matchup against the Steelers, and
then you're playing across the country Sunday, one o'clock Eastern
time kick. It's tough to do, but that's not thirty
five to six like that's like, So at least give
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them credit for that. And you've got two more games
coming up against you haven't played the Titans yet this year.
You've got a game against the Cardinals that's winnable this Sunday.
And you have the Jets side for the fact that
you have two divisional games against the Colts that if
you do beat them, you could be in the thick
of it for winning your division. Whether we believe in
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them or not. The Jaguars are going to be there
at the end.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Can I just say one more thing. I was about
ready to start fading the Jaguars when they were losing
three of four games, and their only winning there was
an overtime win over the hapless Raiders. But that thirty
five to six win over the Chargers, I was like, wow,
well it was very impressive.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Also, look at who they lost in those three of
the four Seahawks and rams up to of the better teams.
They actually were beating the Texans. They were up nineteen
in that game and Houston had the crazy comeback scores,
the defensive touchdown at the end. So yeah, a game
that they should have won. They'd tell you that they
should have won that one and maybe would have been
(18:08):
more of a case to be one of the teams.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
To believe in. And that is Tuesday Morning Quarterback in
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Speaker 4 (18:18):
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Speaker 2 (18:37):
Thank you Sam for listening. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Honestly, like.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
This song resonates to me and I had I have
some really close friends, the Costers in Kenton, Connecticut. They
always went to Aruba, always went to Ruba's the Dutch.
It's it's province of Netherlands, right, believe so? And he
is John is half Dutch, I believe yeah. So they've
(19:07):
always gone. But it's that song. That song is what
makes me like, yeah, I'd love to go to Ruba. Why,
I don't know. It sounds amazing. What do you mean
it sounds amazing? Well, the Beach Boys song about it,
you know, about thirty years ago when they dropped that song.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Doug, you can use that song as just like your
list to check off of countries and island nations to visit.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
There for you, Ooh, I wanna take it to Bermuda, Bahama.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Come on, pretty mama.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
That song is not about a Ruba by the way.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
He's just you know, there's a lot of places to
visit and that that gives you a nice easy list
to go off of.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I got it.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Brett McMurphy joins us here in the Doug Gottlieb show.
He's from the On three network. Ahead, damn by aer
you want to get in?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Sorry, Well, I was just gonna say Key Largo is
in Florida. It is well, so.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
It is, it is well.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Key Largo is in the is in the Caribbean though, Right,
it's a Key island south of Florida.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Right, No, it's a part of Florida. It's one of
the the islands. Yeah, but it's not like it's when
you're going to uh, the Virgin Islands, Like that's nowhere
close to Florida.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
If you stop Key Largo's that's your first stop because
you're going you're going uh south north to south, you.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Go, you go, baby, why don't we go south? Brett
McMurphy joints us. Have you ever been the Caribbean?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Brett?
Speaker 8 (20:28):
I have not, but I have Key Largo on the right.
Key West.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Uh, you know what I'll have to We'll have to
effort that one right now.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
No, it is, He's right, it's on its way.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
I've been to Key West one time. I drove the
other time.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, Key West is the furthest most Key Key Largo
is close one right, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Key West is the very bottom bottom bottom of Florida. Yes,
like six hours from Miami shows how far away it is.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Six hours.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Well, it's a it's a two lane road. It's you
can't go over forty So that's part part of the reason.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
All right, I appreciate it, Breck McMurphy sharing it with us,
bringing up because we're I'm taking my team in the
US Virgin Islands.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
We're going tomorrow. Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Sam hasn't been since he was a wee bit child,
so his advice isn't really great and they're just kind
of we're psyching ourselves up for the trip.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, Okay, Lane Kiffin, his family is in Gainesville, his
family's in Baton Rouge, or maybe he's not going anywhere.
What's what's the real story with Lane Kiffin right now?
Speaker 8 (21:40):
He's going to Ruba. I mean, come on, the real
story is he knows himself yet what he's going to do.
He mentioned, you know today when he we did an
interview with with McAfee that there is no ultimatum on
(22:04):
him making a decision. We had on three have reported differently,
and we stand by well reported. I'm not saying Lane's
not telling the truth, but I'm just saying he's maybe
has a different version of what's going on. Basically, Ole
Miss wants a decision before probably before the end of
(22:24):
this weekend. They don't want to go into next week's
game against Misissippi State not knowing if Kippen is going
to return in twenty twenty six or nine. So the
next question is, and I'll ask you, Doug, as a
head coach, what's the if you tell your athletic director, yeah,
I'm not going to resign because I'm taking another job
(22:47):
somewhere else. Should you be allowed to coach in the playoffs?
And that's a real question that ole miss is going
to have. I've asked a number of ads about it.
I've got to as you can imagine, a bunch of
different answers. A lot of them reference the g. Schimbeckler
I want a Michigan man to coach Michigan when he
(23:08):
changed coaches in the eighty nine NCAA tournament and then
Steve Fisher went on and won the national title. I
don't have any inside information. You asked what I think
my opinion strictly, strictly, my opinion is he will not
coach at all this next year. I do not know
if he will be at LSU or Florida.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
There is it that much more money Doug gets.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
I don't think money has anything to do with it.
I think it's I think it's a personal choice. He's
going to get. The money's going to be the same
or similar enough no matter where he goes. So it's
now a personal choice. And the thing I keep hearing
about why would he go to Florida? Why would he
go to LSU. If he goes there and he goes
eight and four, he's going to get fired. Well, guess what,
(23:54):
Lane Kiffin's not going somewhere for a job, so he
can go eight and four not get fired. He wants
to go somewhere where he can win a national championship.
And yes, I know ole Miss is in the playoffs.
He can win a national championship and ole Miss, but
I would say Lane Kiffin has gotten old Miss to
that that level, not ole Miss got Lane to that level.
(24:16):
Where if you go to Florida or LSU, those schools
have already established it. Multiple coaches have come to those
programs and won national championships. So now the question is
what is the difference between ole Miss, between Florida between LSU.
Do you feel like you can win a national championship?
(24:37):
Got off three places? Is it a heavier lift at
one of those places also, is there. You know he's
got ties to Florida. You know his wife is the
daughter of former Florida coach John Reeves. His dad, obviously,
(24:58):
Monti Kiffen was a long time since coordinator with Tampa
Bay Bucks. He's been in Florida lot obviously is at
Florida Atlantic. I don't think that comes into play at all.
So he has some ties there. Does that play into
the personal side of it? I don't know the LSU.
Whenever I talk to coaches, and I love ed Odern,
but the number one thing they say to me is
(25:18):
if ed Odron can win a national title at LSU,
so can I Does that make that attractive? But then
you've got the flip side where you've got the governor
sticking his nose in different things. Do you want to
deal with that or do you just want to stay
at Ole miss because what you've accomplished, what you can
accomplish moving forward. Again, I don't think it's a it's
(25:38):
a definite answer, and it would probably be a different
answer for different people. But I think that's kind of
all the things he's kind of trying to digest. People
close to him, don't don't know what he's going to do.
I don't necessarily know if if Lane knows what he
wants to do, but I do know Ole Miss wants
to know because they're challenge Doug if he does lead.
(26:02):
They want to be able to go in and get
who they want to get and potentially not lose that
candidate to another SEC school or maybe one of these
other jobs that are open s.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the
voice of Brett McMurphy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Again, like that, that doesn't that doesn't make that the
I'm not saying your reporting doesn't make sense, but a
lot of it. If you're if you're happy, and your
program is financially supported and you can use this to
get more financial sport, if you can buy more players
(26:37):
and you're in the same league, I don't understand why
you leave, right, Like, I get that Florida you know,
has been and traditionally more prestigious, but is it really
now like is it?
Speaker 8 (26:51):
I don't know? You I mean, and again this was
you know earlier, not this season, but you know there
were times, you know, when Kiffen was was having to
go to the frat houses and sorty houses just thrum
up attendance to the games where if you know, fans
were all leaving at halftime and stuff, I mean some
of that stuff. You know, you don't have to deal
(27:11):
with that a Florida or an LSU. Is that enough
to decide to go to another school? You know? I
don't know. I think obviously NIL changes changes a lot
of things. Transfer, portal changes things. So the old Misses
of the world are not the is not the old
old Miss. Texas Tech can now compete on a level
(27:35):
that they never had before because of all this, so
can all miss. But again, you know, forget about every Saturday,
but the other three hundred and sixty four days a year,
how does old Miss compare financially and resource wise with
the LSU and Florida? I would say those teams are
in a better position. Is it always going to be
(27:55):
that way now? And then you know, I know, we
just I'm mentioning portal and all that stuff. But you know,
recruiting wise, Florida is arguably, if not the best, It's
one of the top two states in the country as
far as high school recruits for football. So you're sitting there,
you know, and then you look at all the pro
players LSUS is put out every year. Again, those are
(28:19):
some of the advantages that you have at either one
of those schools. And the other thing is which this is. Look,
this is the case no matter where you're at, if
you're if you're kipping, and you know, whatever happens, you
stayed on this, you go to the playoffs or whatever,
and you don't get to the playoffs next year, this
is gonna be again. It's like this everywhere, but it's
(28:41):
like it's a disappointment where you go into LSU and Florida.
Not that he needs to reset his clock, because in
no way is the end under any pressure, but you
know how that is once you're in a place for
a certain amount of time, I think fans get sick
of coaches.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
And yeah, there's an expression Brett in coaching where it's
you making you make an enemy every.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Year you're there, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
And.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
You know even without trying, you're gonna make an enemy
every year you'ar there. And I mean, look, my Gundy's
the perfect example. Granted last two years weren't good enough,
but here's the guy who literally built a program from
scratch to being the best program in the Big twelve.
And you know, a year and a half later, a
year and three games later, he's out of a job.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
Yeah. And I'm not saying, you know, Kiffen's under any
pressure or anything, but you know, you do, you know,
you do kind of start over, you start the process.
So plus quick, I would argue this is not a
move sideways, I'd say this is a move up.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
So yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's that much
of a move up as it used to be, because uh,
there's a there's a plus nimized to it. The plus
side is if you say, hey, you got to start over. Hey, honestly,
most of these schools you got to start over every
year anyway, whether you start over the same school or
a different school. But you do have to start over,
and you do have to create a culture. And I
(30:06):
hate the idea of these coaches were let go mid
season just because you know, who knows what's going on
from that point in time till a coach is hired
and it's a much bigger mess to clean up. Let's
go through a couple of these what is going to
be James Franklin that becomes the first one off the board, right,
and because he doesn't have you know, you know, because
(30:28):
he has offset language in there. Now a sudden Penn states,
off the hook, we're all except for like nine million dollars.
What's the next one off the board?
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Uh, I'm going to say Florida or LSU. I think
I think I think that's because there's a you know,
there is the to call it a deadline, don't call
it deadline. There is the expectation that Ole Miss will
(31:00):
get an answer from from Kiffin before the start of
next week. So I don't I don't see any other
schools really making a move. The ones that are open.
I think everybody's kind of waiting to see what happens.
I think some of these schools that are open, you know,
maybe waiting waiting for these other coaches to finish their
(31:21):
season or at least get through the regular season. Some
of them may be involved in the playoffs, you know,
potentially some of the Group five coaches maybe uh, you know,
in the playoff mix. So yeah, as weird as it sounds,
I think maybe we get an answer from from Alsue
or Florida and it's not them make giving us an answer.
(31:42):
It's Kiffin, you know, making a decision. And then ultimately
you know, what does Ale miss? What does Ale miss decide? Yes,
you're going to coach in the playoff or no, move
on and good luck at your next job.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
If it's not Kiffin, then who gets those jobs? Who's
who's the next? Who's the next Florida?
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Huh at Florida? Yeah, at Florida. I would again, my
reading the tea leaves I think Jed Fish of Washington,
what have a great shot? He is a former grad
assistant at Florida or the Spurrier. There house ties to
the school, which is obviously a benefit. I would put
(32:26):
him at one A. I would put one B at
Eli Drinkwitz Missouri.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
And then other big jobs come come open, right. Then
Missouri's open, right, and then Washington's open? And then who
gets those jobs? And that's why everybody wants to know?
And yet we still have games let to be played.
Like in a previous generation, you would have thought before
the Egg Bowl, there's no way you make this decision.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
But here here we are. Last thing, who's going to
get our own motor shop?
Speaker 8 (32:56):
Well? Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
From I've heard some roll from Tulane's big time. I've
already wants an SEC job.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
He'll be in the SEC. Yeah, he'll be in this.
I like that's one of the I think that's somebody
will Miss could go after if they lease kids. It's him.
I think Arkansas could excuse me, Auburn would be a
possibility for some raw. I think I would say some raw,
either Ole Miss or Auburn. Eric Morrison, North Texas. I've
(33:30):
heard him is a potential landing spot for Oklahoma State.
But then I've heard he may be looking at another
job that's not open. So I don't want to repeat
it in a public forum, so I'll text you privately.
Alex Golish of the US was the candidate. I don't
know if the lost. The Navy kind of him his
(33:51):
star a little bit. Colin Kleine, the offense coordinator at
A and M. I think it's a possibility for the
Cowboys and maybe willmac Its Alabama, their defensive coordinator, former
head coach in a sunbelt. I think are there. I
think are the top four right now?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Awesome Brett, great stuff. I'll look forward to that text.
Let's talk offline. Love what you do.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Thanks for our guest.
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Let's get to Dan Byer with the press.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
The press, All right, Doug, we start with the robbery
of Shador Sanders home. Police in Ohio said more than
two hundred thousand dollars worth of property was stolen from
Shador's home while he was making his NFL regular season
debut on Sunday. Breaking lasted twelve minutes. They've got footage
(35:15):
of the suspects on a security camera entering and exiting
the home, but right now, no one is in custody.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I mean again, you can like or just like Shdor Sanders,
just like what I guess.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Part of it is criminals have gotten smart, but part
of it is like, this is what we're doing now.
And I know it's happened in LA for the last
couple of years or waiting until athletes are at work
and everybody knows they're at work, and then we're robbing
their homes.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Yeah. And the crazy thing was this happened at about
it was six point thirty Eastern, so about three thirty Pacific,
And it was around that time that Shador Sanders was
entering the game for the first time, because when Gabriel
got knocked out, all of a sudden, Sor came in.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But well you do know where he.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Is, yes, exactly. There's been a string of athletes having
their homes broken into over the past few months, so
Shador now a victim of that, but about two hundred
thousand dollars worth of property stolen. Aaron Rodgers has a
fractured left wrist, but he hasn't been ruled out of
playing against the Bears on Sunday. If he can't go,
(36:22):
Mason Rudolph gets the start against.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Chicago, Mason Rudolph my guy, and remember he's taken them
to the playoffs before, albeit as more of just a
facilitator than anything else. But Rogers' career ending with an
injury would be be suboptimal obviously, but it would be
(36:44):
right along the lines of what happened to Brett favre M.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
You know.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Golden State Warriors forward Draymond Green was given a warning
by the NBA following his interaction with a fan during
Sunday's game in New Orleans. Draymond has sproke spoken about
the incident, saying that the fan kept on calling him
Angel Reese. He said, it was funny at first, but
it didn't stop, and so that's why he ended up
confronting the fan.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
That makes sense. It's like, you gotta get the line.
Great now, you got a bunch of lines too many?
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Yes, it was he said that, Yeah, he missed a
shot earlier, got his rebound, missed again, got his rebound,
and that's why, like even Draymond said, like, okay, I
get it. But then when you keep on going with it,
he had to say something. But it also when you
see Draymond doing that, you're like, oh, here we go again,
(37:34):
can't confront fans even if he had every right to well.
Lebron James remains questionable Fortnight's game against the Utah Jazz.
He says that this is a no doubt or that
he will not play in the twenty twenty eight Olympics.
On the Mind the Game podcast that he does with
Steve Nash, Lebron says he's completely ruled himself out of
playing in the LA Summer Games, while Steph Curry says
(37:57):
it's unlikely he'll play in the twenty twenty eight Olympics.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, that's gonna be crazy, right.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
So we're three years away from having from a host
in the Olympics, and it feels like we're gonna have
a completely new group representing us in basketball and that
that doesn't seem like a great idea. Like if we
were gonna pick our team right now, Dan, who has
(38:23):
to be on it?
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (38:24):
I don't, I don't. I mean, I know, but I'm.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Just saying, like, who are the best American born NBA
players that will be around in three years? Is Tyrese
MAXI gonna be our kind of go to score right?
Jalen Brunson Jalen Brown, because the world has Victor webin Yama,
(38:48):
the world has shaved Gildses Alexander, the world has Luka Doncik,
the world has Giannis, the world has others.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Who are we gonna have? I don't know Jokic, I
don't know who we're gonna have.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
That's the press.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Get out there and pressed was the press.
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Dateline NBC
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