Tua's draft status is in doubt

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and Ta's wonderlock score. Plus Joel Klatt joined us lead
college football analysts for Fox Sports. Will hear from him
upcoming in moments, get his thoughts on Joe Burrow, his

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Find out what he's been doing and how his wife
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guest in the third hour of the show. I will
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the biggest topic of next week, which is the NFL
Draft and the most discussed player in the NFL Draft

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who I believe has the strongest likelihood to fall um,
there's a there's a writer. You guys have been everybody's
been reading books, right, Ramas if you get a chance
to pick up a book now, Romo's has got a
little baby at home music. You told me two nights
ago that you guys not watching any Netflix. You guys

(02:34):
are reading correct, that's correct. What are you reading currently?
The third book of Game of Thrones? That's right, You're
in the Game of Thrones. You know, you're so much
better than the rest of us. By the way, finished
up Ozark last night. Third season, phenomenal. There are two parts,
two parts two like two storylines, which makes zero sense

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at all. But outside of that, uh in In totality,
it is a TV show. It is amazing. It's a
it's so gripping, so intense. If I misspeak, or if
I fall asleep at the wheel, if I pull a francessa,
it's simply because, dude, I've been watching a ton of Ozar,
all right, But but I've also been texting a bunch

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of calling a bunch of buddies in the National Football League,
And I've heard this as well. Adam shafter reporting on
the night before the league halted visits between college prospects
and NFL teams. The Dolphins rush to try and get
to a to uh tug of Violoa to Miami, a
league's sourcess. But on March twelve, as much as the
two sides tried to figure out the details of the visit,

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they could not get in done in time, and tug
of Voloa was unable to visit with the Dolphins doctors
in Miami. Tago Violoah was the first college prospect the
Dolphins tried to bring to Miami. Per the source, the
Dolphins doctors last saw tug of Violoa in person at
the Combine, but if not had any time with him
since then. Albert Brier said on the Herd earlier this

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morning that he's hearing too could fall in the draft. Look,
this is completely uncharted territory doing a draft, not just
where there aren't pro days, but your own doctors aren't
able late in the process to evaluate guys. Then you

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factor it. And here's where I bring in books. Um,
Malcolm Bladwell has books right best sellers, and there's several
of them Outliers Blink very good. But the tipping point
is the first one that everybody picked up was like
a New York Times bestseller immediately. And the tipping point
is about the moment that something tips, the moment that

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something changes, something becomes a trend. But when I I
read the tipping point, it was never just one factor.
It was a multitude of factors, multitude of factor And
I do believe that the main reason that tug of
Violoa could fall in the draft, the main reason is

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the hip. Okay, that's the you know, we we don't.
You can tell me other players have had hip injuries,
but most of them have been laboram issues. There's a
labor in the hip, not this sort of hip injury.
So that's the big reason he would fall. But then
you factor in the coronavirus to quarantine shutdown, the inability

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to evaluate a guy and his health in the month.
It's it's we are at April what April sev We're
talking about a month and five days since they would
last have been able to evaluate tug of Viola's hip
a month and five days. You factor in that, Then

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you wheel in the factor he's left handed. Then you
will in the act that he got hurt trying to
run away from dudes. He's not as athletic as people
thought like there's other little factors, and and and and
I think what what's happened with the quarantine is there
have been businesses which have been a little bit iffy
in the past, and they're just not gonna come back.

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Things are not going to be the same when they
come back. They're just not And we can chalk it
up to well, it's a quarantine, but the quarantine has
exposed any sort of weakness that we've we've previously had,
right that actually was like, look, the if you read

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a lot about COVID nineteen before and early on in
the quarantines and even now, the biggest fear was not
was not actually the virus. The virus does spread like crazy,
um outside of I think measles. It's it's the one

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of the most contagious things we've ever seen the humankind.
But it wasn't just the virus that was the threat.
The threat was because I mean, in all reality, our
health care system wasn't prepared, or that's what we were
told right now, enough ventilators, not enough hospital beds, and

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we be overwhelmed. It's a lot like Hurricane Katrina, right
Hurricane Katrina wasn't a disaster, and he didn't have all
of these deaths and the flooding simply because of a hurricane.
It was the hurricane on one city in America of
that size, which is under below sea level, and it

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was the levies that broke from all the water. It
wasn't because of the actual hurricane. So one of one
wasn't one of the top ten strongest hurricanes to strike land.
It was the other kind of ancillary things. And so
that was the fear with COVID nineteen was, Hey, our
our medical system would be overwhelmed, and because we've been

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on quarantine, it hasn't been as bad as previously feared,
which is good news. Then you you take a look
at you take a look at to a the hip
is the major issue, but your inability to evaluate him,
combined with the fact that he's left handed, combined with

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the fact that he's been brought down by guys how
athletic actually is he? You know? And then you start
to okay, and Joe Burrow surpassed him as a prospect
this year, and now you have other factors like, wait,
wait a second, this thing do I think on his own?
In a normal draft, you're you'd have a doctor that

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would go, you know what, let's go with it. I'll
give you the green light. But with no ability to
evaluate him in person for a month and a half
leading up to the draft. What doctor in his right
mind is gonna green light that thing. Then you factor
in the other injuries that he suffered, then you factor
in his left hand. He comes out of Alabama, there's
that fear that, oh my gosh, is he like one

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of these other talented quarterbacks that comes out of a
loaded system and he's you know, look at his His
two wide receivers are likely to be top fifteen picks,
his left tackles likely to be a top fifteen pick
as well. How good is he or how good is
just the talent around him? He's still very very good.
Then you factor in the hip, then you factor in
left hand, and then you factor and he's kind of smallest.
She doesn't run away from dudes. And now all of

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a sudden, you have this Wait a second, I might
pass on to um COVID nineteen is gonna the world's
gonna look different when we come out of this. There's
a little bit of Darwinism. There's a little bit of
a fear that's probably a lot greater than what it
should actually be. But if there's a reason to bail

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on an idea that you absolutely weren't sure of that
it works, this is a good excuse. And I don't
think it's simply because you can't evaluate him medically that
he won't be clear to be drafted early on in
the draft. But I think that's a good excuse for
the fact that teams are scared over his hip. He
heard his ankle twice, he heard his wrist. Now he

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hurts his hip. You start hearing Bo Jackson hip injury.
Even if medical science is better than it used to be,
you have no idea whether or not it's gonna be arthritic. Right,
you have the Todd Gurley deal, which is a knee
but it gets fixed in college and then you're like,
wait a second couple of years later he's you know,
you gotta cut him and eat all that money. What
I'm trying to get at, in in parallel to stories

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I've read in Malcolm Gladwell's tipping point is the point
that it tips could be to a falling in the draft.
But there's a litany of reasons why, maybe excuses why,
and of course, the big reason is the hip. It's
gonna be fascinating to learn about. Come up next Sunday
Night is gonna be a documentary that I'm to watch.

(11:00):
I think most of Americle watch Michael Jordan's The Last Dance.
What we're gonna learn about the greatest of all time
on Sunday, I'll tell you next. Be sure to catch
the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter Noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
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Sports Radio. When you think of Michael Jordan's what do

(11:26):
you think of? When I think of Jordan, I think
of unstoppable? You do, I do? What? What do you think?
What do you think? Um? Uh ry music? Uh? Probably shoes,
shoes huh, Dan Barer, what do you think of? As

(11:50):
six titles? Um? Okay. When I think of Michael Jordan,
there's many, many, many things. Okay. The first thing is
he's the best basketball player I've ever seen. I Mean,
he was so utterly and thoroughly and completely dominant. It
was crazy, crazy, crazy crazy crazy. And um, I also

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think of cool. But like Jordan's Michael Jordan's amazing today
because his shoes, his brand is still iconic, and he
hasn't played an NBA game in seventeen years, and he
hasn't been a great NBA player in like twenty two years.
You're talking about an entire generation of fans and who

(12:43):
buys shoes. Yes, guys, my shoes, my my age are
sneaker heads. But by and large, the eighteen to eighteen
to thirty is a big that's a big sneaker head
generation as well. And Jordan's brand, the brand of Michael
Jordan is still steam right. So what do you think

(13:03):
we're going to take away from Sunday full disclosure? Here's
my plan, okay, is a working plan and Ryan and
I are are working on it. Is that I want
to do a review podcast after every episode or every
you know, two episodes. There's two episodes and one is
that right Buyer that they're doing back? Is it one?

(13:24):
And two? Yeah? You know, and I'm not sure. I
just know that we get to on the first night,
So it could be you know, over five weeks, but
I just know we get two episodes the first week. Yeah,
and the and the director was on with Dan Patrick
earlier today. I thought it was interesting that things not finished,
right six and seven, he said, there at the one
yard line, UM eight nine, there in the red zone

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and ten, they're driving the ball down the field, Like
damn dude. I actually I'm into it even more because
that's generally I'm a procrastinator by name. Sure, and it
feels like they're like, wait, you guys knew this thing
was coming out in the summer. Whether or not you
thought it was coming out before the NBA uh finals
or there would be no NBA finals. Yeah, you had
to know. And it's still not finished. One. I'm in,

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but too, I'm even more in because it feels like
there's been some procrastination. It's not like you're adding new
new stories, right the things twenty years old? Anyway, I
believe that, Look, there's there's so many parts to this story,
and it really is going to be the Michael Jordan's tales.

(14:35):
This is not when it was. When I originally saw
the Last Dance, I thought it was simply following around
that last team, that last Bulls team before Scottie Pippen left,
before Phil Jackson left, obviously before Michael Jordan retired. That's
what I thought it was like start to finish a
complete chronicle of it turns out it's way more than
that that. It's gonna be basically the chronical of Michael

(14:57):
Jordan's up into the last Dance, which makes it more fascinating. Look,
you're gonna learn that, uh what Isaiah Thomas did at
his rookie All Star game that he still doesn't like
Isaiah Thomas. And by the way, I've said this on
their before, Isaiah still doesn't like him. That's why Isaiah
always says Lebron is the greatest player of all time,

(15:19):
like and you you saw Bill Amber backed him up.
They didn't the Pistons and the Bulls, if you remember,
the Pistons walked off the floor instead of and ducked
out while the game was still going on, instead of
shaking hands with the Bulls. Like that was the great thing.
The Eastern Conference back then was so incredible. You had
the Celtics and their dynasty, which which for the most

(15:42):
part kept the Sixers out of the NBA finals. Right,
The Sixers went to a couple of NBA finals and
did win a one NBA championship. But you had the
Sixers with Dr J and Bobby Jones and Mo Cheeks,
Moses Malone, fo fo fox right. I mean they had
an unbelievable team. And then and and and and there
was there was hatred but also respect. And then there

(16:05):
was the the Pistons that came in and as the
Celtics age and had injuries, the celt the Pistons vanquished
the Celtics and not the Bulls can never get past
the Pistons. Finally they did, and they wouldn't shake hands.
But look, you're gonna learn about the hatred. You're gonna
fall in love with Jordan's You're gonna remember how how
amazing those Bulls teams were, the story of him getting

(16:27):
cut in high school, the story of him drafting. He
wasn't drafted second in the NBA draft, third in the
NBA draft. Kim Sanbooie then him. But here's the number
one thing. I think you're gonna walk away thinking, Michael
Jordan is like the coolest thing ever, Like Joe Namath
was cool, but it was like he was trying so

(16:50):
hard and he won one title. As as as elegant
and refined as Derek Jeter was, that was is kind
of felt like a copy of a Jordan's right. I mean,
even he's Roger Federer today, Tom Brady, all of these

(17:11):
guys that are considered the greats of all time, any
level of coolness they have pales in comparison to Jordan's.
He made dressing in a suit lu cool instead of nerdy.
He brought the longer shorts to the NBA. He just
he had this walk and chewing gum, and that he

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wasn't just the best player on every basketball floor he
stepped on and he wanted you to know he was
the best player. He was the coolest cat there was.
I really believe that's going to be one of your
big takeaways. And if you think we're not going to
fall in love with Jordan's and guys that never saw
him play, or even guys that are lebron guys won't

(17:53):
be converted to the Church of Jordan's, think about this
two or three weeks ago people, I mean, look, there's
there's there was an actual legit conversation about should Joe
Exotic get pardoned by President Trump? A right, Joe Exotic
was so bizarre. He became cool because of this docuseries.

(18:16):
Think about every time you watch Hard Knocks, you fall
in love with the team you're watching on hard like
I kind of kind of want to see that team win. Now.
Remember Michael Jordan's is, if not the greatest of all time,
some people believe the second greatest of all time. You
watch a docuseries on his trials, tribulation, his dad, his
dad's death, his mom, getting cut in high school, not

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getting drafted first, the foot injury early on, the seven
years without a title. The Phil Jackson comes in, winning
going to baseball, then coming back and winning three You're
gonna walk away like that dude so much better than
anybody I ever saw, and so much cooler. Be sure
to catch the live edition of The Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. There's

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another piece to this, to a thing which I didn't
say in my rant about why he might fall. I
love Trent Offer, and Trent does throwing a little bit
of hyperbole. But the amount of hyperbole we're hearing from
Trent and people around to a leads me to believe
they might be covered. They might be covering the fact
that there's a lot of questions there right sure, overcompensating,

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could be could be too, could be in play at
number three overall. The Lions currently have three overall right
now in the draft. General manager Bob Quinn says he's
had trade talks involving that third overall pick over the
last week or so, and in fact talks have dated
back to the NFL combine. He did say today that
if he were he were to trade the pick, it
likely would have to be done by Thursday afternoon because

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he said that if they were on the clock, they
would then likely make the pick. That could be something
as well, with the technology being an issue of teams
maybe trying to do trades earlier than instead of when
they're actually on the clock. Giants GM Dave Gentleman says
they'll very seriously in our teane offers to trade down
from number four well. The NFL will reportedly test a
virtual draft process on Monday with all thirty two teams.

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ESPN reports that the NBA and players Union have agreed
to withhold of each player's paycheck on May fifteenth, May
first checks will be paid in full. North Carolina point
guard Cole Anthony announced he's entering the NBA Draft, and
NASCAR's post pointing it's race scheduled for May night that Martinsville.
NASCAR remains committed to running a full thirty six race

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schedule in that Martinsville race could be rescheduled later on
in the month of May. Doug, back to you, Doug
Olive Show, Fox Sports Radio. Yes, right, music, are you
shocked that to have got the lowest of all the scores? Like,
weren't we told that part of what makes him great
is his anticipation? Yes, football like you? Yes, Yes, I'm surprised.

(20:52):
I'm surprised. Um, I don't know how much of a
correlation there is? Right, what was Jamis Winston's What was
Jameis Winston's? Um? What wonderlick score? I know people like, well,
James Winson's a dumbass out of the football field with Nah,
I don't know if there's always a correlation. Thirteen is

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not good. That's very low. That's really low. Okay, So
let's let's go through the kind of factors here. Right,
you have a hip injury, significant hip injury, significant hip injury.
That's the big knock against him. I would say second

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in terms of Knox is a low wonder lick low
wonder lick. Third in terms of Knox is a history
of other injuries, right, um, And then I also believe
the way in which he sustained said injuries is also problematic. Right,

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These more injuries that were sustained out of the pocket,
joking dudes way down field. It was in the pocket
being tracked down, leading to believe like he's either holding
the ball a little bit too long, which is part
of it, or he's not as athletic as he thinks,
which is also part of it. So you got those two,
then I think you throw in like his left handed

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it's a little bit different, a little bit different. And
then there's some other stuff like you know, Alabama hadn't
produced it, and I know his numbers are obscene. Alabama
hasn't produced any sort of star or starting quarterbacks during
the Nick saban era. I feel like part of what's
going to make this to a situation. And he's little.

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He's also little. He not a big dude. Given the
current climate, there's no pro days. He wasn't healthy enough
to do anything at the combine, You're strictly going to
have to draft him based off of tape, which is
exactly what falls in line with this year. Like him
and Joe Burrow are on the same playing field because

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there's no pro days. There's no I mean even him
in Jordan's Love. You aren't gonna be allowed any other
factors to come into play to sort of convince you like, oh,
he may have scored low on the wonder Lick, but wow,
did you see his pro correct. Yes, you've got twenty
minutes to meet with him, and then you can meet
with him on a on a virtual call. Yeah, I'm

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telling you, like I think he might be screwed by
this deal. It becomes confirmation bias. That's amazing, Yes, right,
John Robbos, So, as a Chargers fan, would you be
hesitant now to take him in the number six if
he falls? There are very very even if you do
need a quarterback. Well, look, here's the thing that one

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thing the Chargers could have the luxury of doing, okay,
which is sitting him for a year, Sitting him for
a year, which not only helps in terms of his
body getting healthy, but getting acclimated within the offense that
they want to run. Um, So yeah, I would be
very hesitant. Look, I think the Chargers are good regardless,

(24:07):
you guys could think I'm crazy, Like, dude, Philip Rivers
was a big reason they lost so many games last year.
They also didn't have Melvin Gordon half the season. It
didn't have Derwin James most of the season. You know,
you lose your running back, you lose your best defensive talent,
and you're not going to be the same and then
your quarterback turns the football over. Of course they lost
all those one score games. I don't know. Joel clad

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joins us in the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Joel,
there's a report that to A scored a thirteen on
the wonder Lick, which is far and away the lowest
of any of the quarterbacks in the draft. Now, factor
in the hip, the other injuries, the fact that teams
can't see him in person, right, they haven't been able
to have their own doctors evaluate him. There's no pro day.

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What what would that do to you as an evaluator
in trying to see if you'd spend a high first
round pick to AA. Yeah, I am not a big
believer in the wonder Lick. I don't know. I mean,
I can't full disclosure. I don't know what what my
score was, but I want to see if a guy
goes out there and operates an offense with surgical precision.

(25:16):
That tells me if he understands how to um mentally
understand what's going on within his own schematics what's going
on with the defense, and he does, he makes decisions
quickly on the field. I don't understand why that's not
more of the barometer than the wonder Lick test. I
think that the wonder Lick test is is inequated, to
be quite honest with you, and that wouldn't factor in

(25:37):
much at all. Now if you were asking me, what
does factor more in on the to a decision For me,
it's the fact that I think that his injuries are
a result of his mentality. Okay, that's one, but yes,
but I think even more so than that, Doug, he
thinks he's more elusive than he is. Yeah, that's exactly what.

(25:59):
Exactly what I've heard from scouts is like he thinks
he's like Russell Wilson. He don't. He's Lamar, But he
thinks he's like Russell Wilson. He's not. And you've got
college kids tracking him down. What do you think they're
going to do in the NFL When he thinks he's
going to get away from guys. That's exactly right. And
every single injury has been in the same vein. He
thinks he's more lucive than he is. He's outside of

(26:19):
the pocket, he gets caught rolled up on spring to
his ankle or fracture as his hit. So he's had
three surgeries because of the exact same problem. Imagine if
there was a quarterback that had been playing in the
NFL for three years that had the exact same issues
or you know, would not make an adjustment, we would
be and rightfully so really ripping that player and saying

(26:40):
he's got to change the way that he plays. And
that's certainly the case for tah Um. If he can
change that, I think moving forward, he's a quality player.
I love his decision making, his accuracy, his ability to
put the ball on time on targets. He's mentally, I think,
everything that you would want from a quarterback. But that
that issue about the way that he plays, I think
it's aren't. Yeah, I do as well, Okay, so does doesn't.

(27:04):
That fact doesn't the wonder lick And I don't think
the wonder lick is the end all be all, but
it does. Then factor in if you're concerned at all
about the hip, if you're concerned at all about the
lidney of injuries and the decision making in terms of
can you be elusive? And then you factor in, Oh,
and he's gonna wonder lick. We haven't been able to
evaluate it in person. Is also left handed, which is
just different. You know. NFL people don't always love different. Um,

(27:26):
you're the Chargers, you're the Dolphins, you have a chance
at two. Oh, what do you do? Well? I think
that that quarterback need generally trumps some of those minor concerns, right, Um,
We've seen that time and time again. Now, I do
think that the conversation and some buildings and I'm not
saying for me because I'm I'm not a huge Herbert guy,

(27:49):
but I think that conversations in some buildings as as
I'm having, you know, my conversations with people in the draft,
I think there are more teams that are split between
Herbert and Twah than we think. And I think one
of them might be Miami. So I don't know if
Ta is a dead set number two quarterback in the draft.

(28:09):
Now he is. For me, I'm just stating that I
think there's a significant drop off on the field to play,
the decisions, the accuracy, the ability to move the ball
up and down the field. I think that there's a
pretty significant drop between TWA and Justin Herbert. However, that's
not the case in some of these buildings, and and
one of them being Miami. I know Miami is split

(28:30):
between Herbert and Ta and so I don't I don't
know what that means, to be honest with you. If
Miami thinks that they can get Herbert with their second
of their three picks, I believe it's at eighteen in
the second round. Do they do they wait to the
second pick in the first round to to pull the
trigger on a quarterback? Do they feel like they've got
to get to up there? Do the Chargers think that
they need to move ahead of Miami if they like

(28:51):
to Uh or Herbert. A lot of jockeying and a
lot of decisions have to be made up there. And
the team that I think that they're all looking at
that could be a potential trade suitor, Doug is Detroit,
because Detroit desperately needs Jeff Okuda, and they could probably
get him at the five or six marks. So it's
a win win for Detroit. They get stockpiles of picks,
move down, get the guy that they want and need,

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and those other two can service their own needs and
potentially move up and grab one of those two quarterbacks.
You can catch Joe Clad, j Glazer, Pete Schreeger next Thursday,
Fox Sports Tradier. They'll be live throughout the first round,
beginning at eight pm Eastern Time. They'll have picked by
Pick predictions analysis throughout the first round right here on
Fox Sports Radio. Unbelievable show that you do not want
to miss. So when you're driving around you're at home,

(29:35):
go to Fox sport tradier dot com as well. You
can stream that live as well. Okay, so, uh, you
mentioned you're not a Herbert guy, and you also mentioned
they're all fighting to be the number two quarterback. Colin
isn't as sold on Joe Burrow. Most of the NFL
guys that I talked to you are, Where are you
on Joe Burrow? What we should expect of him as
an NFL player? First of all, Collin's crazy. I don't

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know what in the world you'd be watching if you're
not sold on Burrow. Joe Burrow is incredible all around,
he's got the leadership, he's got the intangibles, he's got
the accuracy, he's got the feet, he's got the elusiveness,
elusiveness that he needs, and he understands his own elusiveness.
And very different from from to A. He's surgical with
his approach to the game. All five of the guys

(30:19):
that are out on the past concept at any given
point can get the football now, get it on time
with the ability to make a play. So his accuracy
is is really second to none. He throws a catch
a bowl ball um Burrow and and I don't think
this has gotten enough talk, but but Doug, if you
look at what l s U was on the four
previous seasons too, when Joe Burrow showed up, guess what

(30:42):
they were an eight or nine win team. That's what
ran less miles out. That's what was getting people all
riled up about at O Geron before he finally won
ten games with Burrow as a starting quarterback. People forget this.
They have not been on an Alabama style of run
eight or nine wins for four consecutive years. That's four
or five losses. Think about this, Doug, over those four

(31:03):
years before Burrow got there. The average recruiting finish nationally
for l s U was three and a half to
number two classes, a number five class at a number
six class nationally, and they were winning eight or nine games.
So who's the catalyst for change? It's Joe Burrow. Everyone
says like, well, he wasn't great his first year. Yeah,
but he increased them to the tin win mark. He

(31:25):
took them to a New Year's six game and that's
where he won them over. And by the way, he
did that with no off season. He didn't have spring
football to get ready with those wide receivers in order
to go out there and play well. And in the
year that he did have an off season, he went
out there and throw sixty touchdown passes and it was
the best quarterback season that we've ever seen. I candidly
have no questions about Joe Burrow, to the point that

(31:48):
even if Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields were in this draft,
I think I might have Burrow as the number one
quarterback even of those guys. Now that might change next
year if they have a great season, But this guy
was the catalyst for a from a leadership perspective, to
take a program that was perpetually underperforming, and he took
them to the point where they were fifteen and oh

(32:08):
and had the greatest season that we've seen a team
have maybe in the history of college football. There is
no question that this guy has left on the table.
He is outstanding. He's the number one pick, period. Joe Clad,
our guest in the Doug Gotlie Show on uh Fox
Sports Radio. There's a litany of wide receivers, and part

(32:30):
of this is the change in the sport, and guys
that would previously play basketball or play previously play some
other skill position are now focused on wide receiver. It's
like now they're throwing in high school and throwing high
school back when we were in high school, right, And
of course it started with you know that the advent
of the spread in college spread down to high school,
and now it has moved upward to the pros. There's

(32:52):
a ton of wide receiver. This a deep wide receiver draft.
Who's the guy you most believe will be a star
wide receiver? Oh gosh, I'm mean, there's there's I don't
think I can pick with just one. I'm sorry to dodge, right,
I don't. I really don't mean to, but I don't
think that there is just one. Let's let me just
take the top three of on my board, which is Judy,

(33:13):
Lamb and Rugs, and any one of those could be
the top wide receiver in any draft. But they're all
different from one another. You know, Jerry Judy is going
to be a guy that's fast, He's highly productive. He
took great route runner, He's a technician every level. He
can be fluid, get out of his break. I think
his best attribute, Doug is the fact that he creates
space at the top of his route as good as anybody.

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And from a quarterback perspective, that's invaluable because all I
want my guy to do is get open beyond time
and catch the football. Be reliable, and that's the one
thing that at times he has struggled with the consistency
of catching the football. But I wouldn't say it's it's
too much of a concern. From a CD Lamb perspective,
He's not quite as fast, but his threat after he
catches the ball is as good as we've seen in

(33:58):
the draft in a long time. You turn on that
tape against Texas, he's got four five long horns around
him and he's still scoring touchdown. The guy is a monster.
His body control along the sideline is second to none.
He's a phenomenal player and easily a number one wide receiver.
And then Doug Henry Ruggs is a guy that goes
four to seven at the combine. But the more impressive
part for me is that I see four to seven

(34:20):
in his pads on the field. He's just like Tyreek
killed to me, you give him the ball on a sweep,
you let him take the top off the defense, from
the slot on the outside, he can do it all.
He is a game changer with that speed. One of
the best things that he does, by the way, it's
not just from the slot, and it's not just running fast,
but it's his ability outside the numbers to force the

(34:40):
defensive back to flip his hips get going north and south,
and then he stops on a diamond. He has that
little back shoulder face. It's kind of a little stop route.
At twelve yards, it's almost indefensible. And then they wore
it out at Alabama. So any one of those guys
as a phenomenal player. Last thing, you're on conversations that
I will only dream of being in on when when
do we have college Do we have college football a

(35:02):
regular season? Do we have no fans? Do we have spring? What? What?
What do you think is most likely most likely to happen? Um? Yeah,
I mean I'm glad you said most likely. This is
this is not definitive whatsoever. But I would tell you
that I fully anticipate a college football season at some point. Um.

(35:22):
If I had to bet money, I would bet money
on that we would have a little bit of delay.
And the reason being is that fans are more important
to the college game than they are the NFL game,
just from a revenue standpoint, because remember, it's not just
ticket sales, but it's also the donation via those ticket
sales and those seat premiums and the that that are

(35:45):
so big, right, so, so the revenue structure of college
football is just a little bit different. Nicole hour Back
has a has a great thread on Twitter about all
that revenue side, So go check out out if you're
if you're worried about it. But I would bet money
that we're gonna have a season. I don't know if
it's going to be a full season or not, but
I think that we'll have college football to some extent,
And and they're gonna try their best to put fans

(36:06):
in the stadiums because of the revenue model that each
of those universities have. And I know you want to
be quickly on this, but I would just tell you
we are getting some unbelievably positive data out there, folks.
The Stanford study of the annaviral testing was out, and
as each day unfolds, we're getting better and better results
and tests and treatments and so on and so forth.

(36:27):
So what I would encourage all of these decision makers
to do, and I have Doug, is to just be patient.
There's no reason we have to make a decision about
the season right now. We can allow this to move
down the road just a little bit to get all
the data that we could possibly get so that we
know exactly how dangerous this is and how danger it
is it isn't in particular in the age groups that

(36:48):
we're talking about with college athletes from eighteen to twenty two.
We can think about treatments. We can be down the
road with a vaccine. We can be down the road
with again all those data points as far as how dangerous,
and then we can make decisions. I think that's the
biggest point, Joel, great stuff. Can't wait to hear your Thursday.
Thanks so much for joining us. I appreciate it, but
have a good one, Joel Clatt, J. Glazer, Pete Tregor. Thursday,

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(37:33):
Go alright, Doug, the game today is alright, Psychic. Will
we see the Lions trade down from number three in draft? Yes? Yes,
it makes too much sense right. The only question is
do they do the Pats a solid? If the Pats
want to jump up and take a quarterback, they would
cost New England quite a bit to do so. Will
we see the Giants trade down from number fours? Wow,

(37:56):
I'm gonna see a lot of action to top the draft. Correct,
a lot of action, alright, Psychic. How many quarterbacks will
be drafted in the top ten in Thursday's first I
believe two will be drafting the top Oh interesting. How
many quarterbacks will be drafted in the top five? Two?
All right there? It is uh psychic. The New England
Patriots will unveil a new uniform on Monday. Will it

(38:19):
be an upgrade or a downgrade to their current set?
I don't like their uniform, so I think it will
be an upgrade. Yeah, I agree with that. I think
anything that they they could do, especially if they would
go to the Patriots. Yeah, I even like their color
rushed with the all Navy Psychic. Will the UFC conduct
fights on Fight Island? Will this end up happening? Will

(38:42):
you be watching psychic? Finally? Will Call Anthony be a
top five pick in the NBA draft? I don't believe so.
I once thought he'd be the number one overall pick
as a lead guard. He just he's not a great shooter.
All of that. You know, He's not like terrible shooter,
just not a guy the guys love to play with.
He's not a freak athlete. I still like him, but

(39:04):
don't love him as much, and I think NBA people
feel the same. Won't be a top five This is
game time on the Dug Gottlieb Show. Well that was fast.
That was fast. Okay, the good that gives me a
plenty of time for the Cowboys and Dak. There the
Cowboys and Dak are a couple or a married couple

(39:29):
during quarantine. Will will explain what's going on in their house,
in their bedroom and how it plays out post quarantine.
M that's up coming next In Doug Gotlip Show, Fox
Sports Radio. Be sure to catch the live edition of
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noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the I Heart

(39:51):
Radio WAP What up Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sparks Radio.
I hope you're having a good day. I'll be ready
for a big weekend. Anybody else run out of stuff
to do? This? Guy? Um, you know, I probably should
have started doing this like two months ago, but now
I'm like, or a month and a half ago, but
now I'm like, you know, my backyard needs some like

(40:14):
trees to block it off from other backyards. Think about
digging those holes this weekend? Ramos? What do you think
that'll kill some time on it? It will definitely kill
some time. Yes, the ramas you can do with the
mask on. You don't you don't sound like Bain. Okay,
I want to make sure people understand what I'm saying.

(40:36):
Anybody do a Bain impression? Somebody does here, but it's
not in this show. On this show, I don't do
a Bain impression. I'm gonna work in my Bain impression
on a weekend again. Just looking for things to do.
Those are done, check that box, unorthodox done. I think
Succession is the next one that everybody recommends. Anybody got
anything else they want to throw out there? Does this
have to go along with you and your wife or

(40:58):
just just you, like, you don't ask you wife like
should we watch this? Or you just kind of say
I'm gonna watch this and if you don't want to
watch it, I don't really care. This is one that
I would like to watch with her. Um. She couldn't
keep up with the pace that I had, the appetite
I had for Ozark. She was in early on, and

(41:18):
then she had some other shows blank Creek um starting
this creek. I know it's not spelled different way, but
I can't say on the radio. So you know, there's
a couple others that she's in on. I would like
to have one that we could boast, sit down and
watch that's not cheesy chick show, that's not you know,

(41:40):
Better Call Saul. She hasn't seen big Breaking badge. She
never seen the wires, So I I feel like we're
not seeing Breaking bad She can't go to Better Call
Saul music? Can she do that? Could? Could you go
Better Call Saul without having seen Breaking Bad? Technically you could?
I mean it's not really worth it. I mean I
mean I in like, technically you could, because you're it's

(42:02):
what happens before, or most of it is. I guess
part of it happens after. Oh I give the stuff
away here by the way, I mean it's fairly obvious
from the first episode that you watch. I'm actually not
giving that much away. It's mostly based off of what
happens before. So you could, but it's not even close
to the same. Okay um m hm hm okay, Well

(42:31):
I gotta figure that thing out. But thinking about things
to do this weekend. Now, look, when you're under quarantine,
I think I think there's some good that can come
out of it, right, Like you can go on a
walk with your wife, you can talk. Now, some can
be bad. We're like, man, my family is driving me crazy.
I actually work from home was a Tuesday or Wednesday,

(42:53):
and I wanted Partially I was beautiful and I want
a cup of coffee, and part of was like I
just everybody's around you all the time, like I just
need to I got hopped on my bike, which is
the Beach Cruiser, rose to out, rode down, ordered a
cup of coffee, you know, took the long way back.
I didn't even call any beauty that I called somebody.
I didn't call anybody, just took a nice little bike

(43:13):
ride because you do need some air. I think the
Cowboys there's a report out today that there's been no
progress made, no progress made between the Cowboys and Dak
Prescott Cornine Rappwoard on his contract extension since you know,
we've all been kind of shut down here. I remember

(43:36):
he got franchise tagged. He has not yet signed the
franchise tender. He's he said he won't show up for
the virtual workouts. So look there are I think there's
there's talk of this. There's talk of this post quarantine,
either baby boom or divorce rush. There'll be some that

(44:00):
will be fine, but there will be a baby boom.
They'll be like, we ain't got anything to do. If
you don't have kids right now, like, what else are
you doing? A right man? I wish you didn't have kids,
you know, but you got kids in there around all
the time. You can't pot them off on families or whatever.
Um You're either you go one of two ways. And

(44:23):
I feel like if you look at if you listen
to what's coming out of Deck's camp right where, they're
not super happy. They're not happy at all with being
franchise tag. We're not gonna do the virtual workouts. Oh yeah,
by the way, we had a party, a dinner party,

(44:44):
which I don't care if it's ten people, if it's
thirty people, you're not supposed to having a dinner party.
You're not paying attention. And you can tell me it's
not that big a deal. It happens everything. You're the
quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, dude, it's a little bit different.
And don't downplay it. Right, you want to be the
highest paid guy in the NFL. All of these things matter,

(45:09):
Every little thing matters. And the same thing is true
when you're in quarantine with your significant other, Because what's
the excuse you always had isn't have time? You know,
and I didn't do the dishes. Sorry, didn't do the dishes.
But I just have time. We have domn time. You
got furloughed. You have all the time in the world.

(45:32):
You know that project in the garage. You just have time.
Now you do have time. All those things that irritate
each other and if you're not doing them, you do
the opposite. You're telling your significant other like it's not
really in on this, and being close to you, being
around you this much just kind of wearing me out.
That's what's happened with the Cowboys and Deck. It can

(45:55):
go one of two ways. You can reunite and be
much closer, and a fail marriage can be made great again,
or a good marriage can all of a sudden like
you know what, I don't kind of sort of don't
like the other person. We don't have a show that
we like. Before it was we didn't have time to
watch a show together. Now you have his time, all right,

(46:19):
So I think that I think the Cowboy's gotta be
sitting there going like, I'm not sure if this works.
I'm not sure this worse because even if you don't
want to sign the franchise tender, you go hey, don't
worry about it. No big deal, No big deal. We'll
show up for the virtual workouts. We'll do all the
right things, you know, when we get back to business

(46:41):
as usual, then we'll get back to talking about the contract.
You don't But when you're when you're not trying to
do the self quarantine thing, when you're not trying to
discuss a new contract, and when you're not trying to
lead the football to with these virtual workouts, what are

(47:02):
you telling your significant other? In this case it's the
Dallas Cowboys? What are you tell him? So? Um? I
I think that small things during this time can create
big fractures. Have you guys had a freak out yet? Music?

(47:25):
I wouldn't say we've had a freak out. There have been. Look,
we were supposed to get married, that got changed, We're
buying a house, like, there's a lot of stuff, kind
of some stuff that have happened. Am I Am I
gonna get furloughed? Am I gonna have to get back
some of my salary? These are things? Was was there
any because you're like, I just need to go on
a walk for a couple of hours and not with you.

(47:46):
Please don't take it personal. There wasn't very similar. It
was like, I'm gonna go in this room, you're gonna
stay here, and let's take it. Let's take a ten
minutes here, Ramas, you guys had a freak out. No, no,
I actually not to say that, you guys don't. But
I actually enjoy my time right now with Susanna and
the kids. I love my time with my kids. Okay,

(48:09):
but my kids, and they're older too, so they gotta
do a lot more stuff. Like Lucas is, sarahk does
her own thing. Lucas is in the age of like heyes,
where he wants to be a doing stuff. And Jonah
obviously is a baby. So you know, you just deal
with it. So well we have well, we we have
this kind of interesting dynamic. I have twin daughters that
are not really that good of friends at all. I

(48:32):
find that hard to believe. Actually they're really not. They
will like once a day, do they have these They
both ride horses, so they have these junior jumps in
our backyards. They will do occasionally junior jumps together or
the trampoline together. But they they're friends, don't One is
kind of a bit of a recluse, right, like this
is she's almost agoraphobic, and this is like her paradise.

(48:55):
But she will be in the corner, or she'll be
playing her bass guitar or watching a show. If they
don't watch the same shows, they don't have the same friends,
they don't do the same stuff, right, And the other
one is very social, always on FaceTime with one of
her friends doing our tiktoking or doing whatever. And then
my son he'll play with one of them or with me.

(49:17):
And I would say each of us periodically has had
I don't have a freak out because I do have
the outlet of this, had the outlet of either coming
to work or doing my job, or hey, I gotta
go make some phone calls, and I just I'm gonna
go ride my bike and or go for a walk
and put the your piece of air air pods in
and go do that. But we you have a freak out.

(49:38):
And like last night, my wife had major freak out.
She hadn't slept well in like three nights. And part
of the reason she said she didn't sleep well. Again,
you talk about little things being big things. I didn't
lock up. I was watching Ozark and I'm like so
into the show and then I literally fell asleep with
the headphones. I was watching on my computer try and

(50:00):
keep it quiet for everybody else, and I fell asleep,
and like, the lights are on downstairs. Her car was unlocked,
and like, look, we now we live in a good neighborhood,
but people know that neighborhood crimes are way down because
everybody's home anyway. Um, she just last night, she was like,
you guys are all being so nasty to each other. Like, dude,

(50:22):
you were having a freakout. Go upstairs, go into the room,
closed door. She was like in bed, like in seven
fifteen or something she had. It was a freak out.
So and it's because those little things that in the
past you can let him go. But now when you're
around each other all the time and there's nothing else
to do, there's no sports, no diversion. The NFL draft is,

(50:43):
you know it's gonna be on a computer. It's like
everything little things become big things. And I do wonder
how this cowboy thing ends up when we come out
of coronavirus. Right, just a franchise tag, all things considered understandable.
They were close to a deal. They haven't gotten a
deal done. He wanted long term stability. Okay, but now

(51:06):
you have a coronavirus party, and then when you have
the dinner party. The whole response to it was, well,
they reported all these people, and it wasn't like no, no, no,
that's not that's not what you do. You just go hey,
you know, listen, I'm really social person. I missed some
of my friends. We had people over. It was probably
a mistake. We did take precautions, but it's not good enough.

(51:26):
We apologize, right, that's how you handle it. But that
wasn't what he did. He's still holding firm on the
I'm not showing up for the digital stuff, for the
for the virtual meetings. They're stuck together in quarantine and
it feels like we come out of it and like,
I don't think they make it. All of the quarterbacks

(51:49):
in this year's draft are fascinating, especially this one. Let's
share with you. Next, be sure to catch the live
edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm
Easter noon Pacific. Doug Gottlive Show, Fox Sports Trading. I
got a problem, Ramos. I am a I'm a good,
not great ping pong table ping pong player, I'm actually

(52:10):
very good when I play a lot of ping pong,
which I have recently because I have a ping pong table.
I got a new ping pong table. I don't know
how long it would it go. I was six months
ago or so. And my issue especially now is no
one in my family is good enough. So um um,

(52:31):
I can. I can be ambidextrous. I can play left
handed too, when you're playing against inferior competition to kind
of even the playing right offset it. Like I'm um.
I got a couple of friends are nasty ping pong players,
and they would They usually beat me, although I don't
know how much they've been playing. Now that I've been playing,
I've probably raised my game, but it's hard because you're

(52:53):
playing against something blow your level. You get away with
things he couldn't get away with, you know. So the
only one of my family who's uh a decent ping
pong player is my son and uh, what's interesting. He's
left hand. Does he play right handed ping pong? Uh?
And he I think he plays. I gotta figure it out.

(53:15):
Does he play left handed? I think he plays. He
plays left handed, but he can play a little right
handed as well because he does a lot of things
with his right actually hits a baseball right handed, throws
left but um Ricky Henderson. But my son gets really
frustrated because not only can he not beat me, it's
not close when it's right hand, but when I play

(53:37):
left handed, I beat him. And then it's like, not
only are you kicking my ass, but you're kicking my
ass you're off hand, Like that's just mean. I'm like,
I'm not trying to be mean. I'm trying to make
it more fair, Like yeah, but now you're embarrassing me
because you're playing left handed. People walk out and like, wait,
why are you playing left handed? Like well, because it'll
be like twenty one nothing if it's right handed. Right,
I really wanted to be So yeah, that's the problem,

(53:59):
and we gonna have people over so it's not that great. Well,
I think you could think of the fact that he
will get better if he plays you a lot. He
will that I'm trying to tell him. He won't beat you,
He's not gonna beat you for a long time, but
he will get more competitive with you. And I think
that's a positive thing. It's fair, fair point. I like
that like that a lot. Mhm um quarterbacks are always interesting.

(54:25):
In the NFL draft, the number one overall pick is
most likely to beat Joe Burrow. One NFL NFC coach
tells Tom Pelisaro of the NFL Network he ends up
he being Burrow, ends up with a pro coach, Joe Brady.
Now it should be point out Brady did not call
plays this year per se. But now he's gonna call
plays with the Carolina Panthers. And he came over from

(54:47):
the from the New Orleans Saints in a really good
system with the best players. He's a good processor, and
he is everything i'd want in a quarterback if I
took him in the second or third round. He's not
a natural thrower, can't really pump it down the field.
Now he can throw it back shoulder and uncovered, and
he's got anticipation, but that ball's wobbling. Love him, but

(55:08):
I think he's a high risk guy at one this injury. Now, look,
we had Joe clad On before and he's like, you guys,
people are nuts if you don't love Joe Burrow. And
he went through bah blah blah blah blah. Bhi, right,
what were they before Burrow? And it's a fair I
mean the big thing was l s U was missing
both a quarterback who could throw the football at an

(55:28):
offense which understood how to have a quarterback throw the football.
You combine those two and you had one of the
great offenses we've ever seen. Should be pointing out SEC
defenses weren't what they had been in terms of overall
talent and dominance of the past, and as much as
he dominated SEC defenses to have dominated SEC defenses for

(55:53):
the last two years as well, to have just been hurt.
That's why his numbers weren't as good as Burrows. Right, Okay,
it so um, there's a little bit of a little
bit of hating on a party that they weren't invited to. Right,
there's an NFC coach it's like, yeah, look I like him,
bart I take him in the second or third round.

(56:13):
That's because you don't have a chance to take him.
This guy doesn't have a chance to take Nobody will
have a chance to take it with you going to Cincinnati. Right.
But there's also this thing that people don't talk about.
It's the number one pick syndrome. You can be a
bust as the number two pick, or you can be Okay,

(56:35):
as a number two pick. The how you're viewed as
the number one overall pick is completely different than how
you're judged as the number two overall pick. Right, I'll
prove it to you. Um, let's say give me a
give me a year, ramos, any sort of recent year.

(56:58):
I'll go. Here's one. Um, the NFL draft in two
thousand seven, two thousand seven, What was the NFL draft
in two thousand and seven known for? It's Jamacus Russell.
Now what hurts JaMarcus Russell is that he sucked. He

(57:18):
was addicted to syrup. It's a scissor up right, that's
cough medicine. The dude dudes drink constantly, right and drafted
behind him Calvin Johnson and Joe Thomas to one definite
Hall of Famer and another one Joe Thomas possible Hall
of Famer. But no one ever talks about Gains Adams

(57:41):
out of Clemson, Who's number four pick? Right? Adrian Peterson
went seven. Adrian Peterson went seven, Patrick Willis went eleven,
Marshawn Lynch went twelve. No one talks about Gaines Adams
do they? Of course not? You know why not? The
number one overall pick not the number one overall pick.

(58:04):
You go forward in the draft. Sam Bradford one overall all? Right?
Who went behind him? In Dominican sued Gerald McCoy, Trent Williams,
Eric Barry, Russell, Will Kong, Joe Hayden, Hey, Rolando McClain.
Remember him what a bust? Right? But he was the

(58:25):
eighth pick in the draft as the number one over
And this was told to me. I never forget. There
was a guy who a friend of mine who is
in the Calves organization, and the Cleveland Cavaliers had the
number one overall pick and they took Anthony Bennett, remember then, right,
And that that year they brought in seven dudes, seven

(58:49):
guys to potentially be the number one overall pick in
two thousand. Now in the two thousand thirteen NBA draft,
um of those seven guys, and here's all seven that
they brought in, Anthony Bennett, Otto, Porter, Cody Zeller, Alex Lenn,
New Orleans, Noel Ben McLemore, and Victor Oladipo. Now Oladipo

(59:14):
went to but no one talks about Alex Lenn being
that big a bust. Why because he went fifth. The
expectations are one thing to be a high first round
draft pick, to be the number one overall pick, you
have to nail it. Sam Bradford is a perfect example.
He never a terrible career. It's fine, but it was
back in the era where you got fifty million dollars guaranteed.

(59:36):
He did get hurt, he never became an All Pro,
didn't win a Super Bowl, didn't get close to winning
a Super Bowl, and he's seen as a bust, not
because he wasn't. He's a normal first round draft pick,
a seven pick, eighth pick, like I even starting quarterback,
the number one pick is judged completely differently. Be sure
to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. John Minhelkoff

(01:00:00):
joints this middle Koff uh to a scored reported thirteen
on the lick. Well, what's your reaction. Yeah, I mean
that's that's a little bit of an eye opener. I'd
say not ideal. I mean, we don't need rocket scientists,
but I think there's been studies done. I mean consistently,
the top quarterbacks are above, you know, in the low twenties.

(01:00:21):
Now you know Peyton Manning, Andrew luft. These guys weren't
thirty five. I mean, Burrows scores outstanding. I don't need
thirty four. Now that's speaks to Joe Burrows like he's
smart and he's good. But thirteen is just low. I mean,
that's that's really low NFL standards. So you factor in
that he had a hip injury, which freaks everybody out.

(01:00:43):
They can't examine him since you know, they enables and him,
and since the combine, he's had other injuries. He's left handed,
he's not that big, he's not that athletic, and it's
more maybe not the other life. But he seems to
think that he is right. That's why he keeps getting
brought down and getting hurt and now scores low on
the wonder lick. What do you think happens? So? Well here,
here's something like I bet all the all you know,

(01:01:05):
the Bengals probably talked to you know, all the l
s U coaches and Joe Brady and they're like, yeah,
you can give Burrow anything, he can handle it. Well,
the Chargers and the Miami Dolphins nitpicking these two quarterbacks.
Who do we want what's one of the number one?
How do they handle the playbook, Can you give them information?
Can they adjust on the fly? And if there is

(01:01:27):
if Steve Sarkisian on the phone, you know, off the
record to Brian Flores goes, you know, we had to
kind of dumb it down. You'd go, well, that kind
of matches up with the test score. Now if it
to me, if they go listen his football like you,
because at the end of the day, there's been a
lot of football like cues that don't match up academics,

(01:01:47):
you know, and this isn't technically an academic like this
isn't the g p A or anything. But it's much
more closer to an academic test than it is anything
football wise. Didn't take Jason Kidd like four or five
times the past the sad to get into County's one
of the highest basketball like you guys. Ever, so football
like cues number one, but that number really would I'm
doing a little I'm double checking. I'm calling sark but

(01:02:10):
but but my point is like, look, even if you
get the you know what he's he's football i Q
is high, then you factor in the all of the
other things. You're like, man, I don't know what we're
getting here, and then here and it's not, and then
here's and then here's the here, here's the thing that
that you tell me. I love Trend Dilfer and Trent.
Trent is a guy that can be a little prone

(01:02:31):
to hyperbole. The level of praise that he gives to
toa is almost uncomfortable to where you're like, I think
he might be I think they might be overcompensated. I
completely agree. I like Trend dilfor a lot, and I
think he's got a little Gruden in him, and not
just with too He's done it over the years. You
can get a little over aggressive when it comes to quarterback.

(01:02:54):
To compare him to Dann Marino and even use Dan
Marino in the same sentence is laughable. All you'd have
to do with an I'm thirty five years old, I
digncy Dan Marinos prime type in YouTube Dan Marino, watch
him throw a football. He has nothing in common with
Dan Marinos. If you ever met Dann Marino, I'm sure
you have. He's massive. So just that you can't make
that comparison, like if you wanted to make it to

(01:03:15):
Drew Brees or an accurate Steve Young, even Russell Wilson maybe,
but Dan Marino, like, that's that's crazy. I almost feel
like I feel almost feel like going Lloyd Benson Benston
on him. I don't know if you remember Lloyd Benston.
You may not be old enough. Lloyd Benston was once
running for vice president and uh, dan Quell, who was
the vice president, liking himself to Jack Kennedy and he said, Senator,

(01:03:38):
I know Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine,
and you, Senator, I know Jack Kennedy, right, which is
what you wanted to like, I, Senator, I knew Dann Marino.
Damn is a friend of mine. And to a tug
viola is no Damn reno. I would imagine if you've
pulled every person in the NFL that, and they probably
might not be as many now that we're around. When

(01:03:58):
Dan Marino would came out, or just or just coaches
and executives that were in the league even when he
was older, they would they would just be like, that's laughable, right,
I mean that's just to me though there are two uh,
like is either one of the great smoke screens and
he's just gonna go on the top five or six.
And it was like we we talked about this for
two months or no no reason, or he's gonna fall
like a rock, which I think that's on the table.

(01:04:22):
I do too, And fall like a rock could just
mean like are we looking at like picks fifteen and
he's just available because that all the Roman possibility if
he gets to around ten. The Browns ain't taking him,
The Jets ain't taking him, they guess. The Raiders would
be a wild card, but still like can they risk it? Uh?
The Niners ain't taking them, the Bucks ain't take you know,
he could just where where's he going? I guess they could.

(01:04:46):
But Bill's builds a big believer in size. I mean,
look at the quarterbacks they've had historically. He's also he's
also a big believer in intelligence. And everybody says, hi,
football like you, but I don't know, I mean, does
accuracy if he is he really going to go from
Tom Brady to take a fly not a flyer, but
take this guy who's dropping because of this major injury

(01:05:08):
when he hasn't been able to get his doctor. Like
that seems like a pretty risky proposition for Belichick, where
it's a pretty easy, you know, not smooth sailing, but
just people understand this year with Stidham kind of a
reset year. You go to Ah, the clock starts again
and then it's a bunch of pressure. They gotta win
with Tah. Yeah. John Mitilkoff joining us in the Doug
got Lip Show on Fox Sports Radio. I want, I want,

(01:05:29):
I want a true answer here. Are you more fired
up for the draft or for the Jordan documentary? Uh?
Probably pretty equal. I mean I might lean. I mean, listen,
if you were You're a little older than me, but
you grew up in that generation with Michael he was.
I mean, he's the sports Jesus. I don't even think
there's anything nothing but not only that, but there was,

(01:05:52):
like Brady is so kind of He's become better looking
and cooler. Brady is married to the most successful supermodel
in the history of the industry. And he's not as
cool as Michael Jordan's not even He's still not even cool.
I don't even think that. I don't even think it's
that's comparable. It's not. It's not. Michael Jordan is not
only you know, I think in arguably but maybe arguably

(01:06:12):
the greatest bassetl player of all time. He's the coolest
athlete of all time you buy a mile. I mean,
the coolest guy in every room he's ever been ever.
I mean, he was a phenomenon. I can't imagine being
like in your mid twenties and love sports. I don't
even know if the I mean, the documentary clearly is
going to be really powerful, but I don't know if
it's gonna quite do him justice of just you know,

(01:06:34):
I grew up in Davis, right next to Sack, and
the Kings were terrible. When Michael the one game, he
would in the likelihood now like he would have been
load management on a team like the Kings, but he
put back then you just played. If the team was playing,
you played. Especially Michael. It was such a big deal
the one game a year when he came into Sacramento.
I mean, it was such the one kid at school

(01:06:55):
whose either dad was rich or somehow family had tickets.
It was that guy was a legend. The next day
I got to see Michael Jordan's like elementary or junior high. Well,
we got to do a podcast on this sometime. But
remember when, like when we were kids, that the dads
that were rich were like the doctors. Right, Oh, your
dad's a doctor, You're rich. Now, it's like the guy
who's riches either had to start up. You know, he

(01:07:16):
owns he owns a bunch of commercial real estate, or
he's a hedge fund or something like this. You know
he works for Pimco. It's it's it's so completely changed
now anyway, John middle Cover. I also think just watching
a lot of I'm a sucker for nineties NBA. When
you watch those games now and just the players, it
was a lot. It had a lot of parallels to

(01:07:38):
the NFL these last twenty years. How famous these guys were,
but there was an edge to a lot of them that,
even though they were super rich and famous, they were
a little relatable. It's just the league was just in
such a great place and obviously led by Mike. But
you see all these clips of him postgame, always wearing
a suit, always smiling. It's never contentious. Really, like Michael

(01:07:59):
was just the ultimate use, a total package, but everyone
kind of followed his lead. Here Now it's like everyone
hates the media and players are doing stupid stuff and
they're all drinking wine on Instagram. It's like, guys, I mean,
can we come back to earth a little bit? Um.
I would also plan out that people forget the NBA
was more popular than the NFL back then, and and

(01:08:20):
Magic and Bird started it, and Jordan was the reason
why that. I wonder if that because remember there's a
time in the early nineties go back and read Sports Illustrated,
like the NFL was in bad shape. That's why the
that's why the Rams left, That's why the Raiders left.
They were having a lot of problems with attendance, ratings, etcetera.
And obviously that that has that has flipped since John

(01:08:41):
middle Koff, our guest on the Doug Gotlin Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Um, okay, so so. But Detroit and
the Giants they got to be looking to move out
of three and four, don't they, you think. But the
problem with the no pro days and lack of information,
I thought DJ was tweeting last night like this is
there's never have been less information out there just because

(01:09:02):
coaches and general managers and scouts, everyone's been sequestered, you know,
instead of the pro day and a bunch of people
talking in the flow of information, no one really knows
what's going on. So what if both Miami and the Chargers.
To me, it's only one of those two teams trading
up for Herbert unless there's some wild card, which I
guess you can never discount because it happened sometimes trying

(01:09:24):
to get up for one of the quarterbacks. But if
two is gonna fall, that basically means someone's just jumping
up for Herbert. But what if the Miami Dolphins just
like screw it, will wait for him. And clearly the
Chargers might be okay with just not drafting a quarterback.
So I don't know. I mean, who's gonna trade with them?
That's my thing? Like, are we sure they have offers?
And even if they get offers, if you know, if
you're like the Chargers and you know they're not really

(01:09:46):
getting any good offers, it's not like you're gonna overpay.
So does it even behoove the Lions to move back
to the spots instead of just taking the sweet corner
and just making sure you get a really good player.
Leonard Fournette came out and said, you know, basically, hey,
it'd be great to see Kim Newton compete here. I don't.
And look, I know for Nett probably likes Cam Newton,
probably grew up watching Cam Newton. I do think Cam

(01:10:06):
Newton would be popular in Jacksonville, and that's part of
the problem, right you don't want to bring in a
guy who's popular to be the backup when you're trying
to figure out if the young starter is good enough. Fair. Yeah,
but I would say for the Jacksonville situation that is
Gardner Minshew. I like Gardner Minshew, but I would probably
take my chances with Cam. But it's kind of irrelevant though,

(01:10:30):
until I know the guy can throw and walk, he
can put all the Instagram videos and they you know
up he wants. But there there are major questions right
now in the league about his shoulder. No listen. I
talked to a GM that said, like, forget all the
body language stuff and he wants to be paid. Like
I don't like the way he's throwing the past couple
of years. Yeah, it's the show, you know, the the NFL,
the guys, if they think he can play, well, they

(01:10:51):
look past all that crap. It's just the shoulder and
that's you know, he's taken a pounding. Not just the
way he heard his shoulder, but over the years as
a running back. I'm and he has a unique wear
and tear to him. At thirty one, years old. I
think we talked about him like he's thirty five or
thirty six. We also talked about him like he's had
this incredible career where he had he had one great

(01:11:12):
year and then some solid years. Yes, yes, and he's
never he's he and he also plays his style. Uh
some of it, you know, the old style of when
he ran is is very much in vogue. But the inaccuracies,
the inability to be more like look Lamar, you know,
some of it was the offense they ran fit him,
but some of it was he just got better and

(01:11:33):
worked and work to work to get better. There there
wasn't you couldn't see as much tangible statistical improvement over Cam.
He's been the league nine years. Well, what's the other
thing Lamar has gone for him? Beside the improvement, He's ultimate.
He's no maintenance. He's everything that you know you want to.
He's been the opposite of Baker Mayfield. Doesn't say anything,
never complains, they get beat, he wears it, he improves.

(01:11:57):
He just kind of he's quiet and gets to work
and good where Cam. I think the other polarizing part
about Cam is, like you said, he is really famous
and I think we talked about him a little like
we would an NBA player. There's untapped potential, well is there.
He's thirty one years old, he's been in the league
now almost a decade. We've we've seen what he is.
He's had five coordinators, he's had great coordinators. Like we've

(01:12:20):
seen it. Now. He is what he is and when
he's when he's on, he's good. But he's awful lot too.
He's not. He's not some consistent, sustainable player who also
now has all these injuries. Um, how much do you
like Isaiah Simmons? I like him. To me, it's just
the key is your defensive coordinator with these hybrid guys.
I mean, is the honey badger the honey badger with

(01:12:43):
every defensive coordinator. No, he's not. Now, I love the
honey badger. But when you get him with a good
defensive coordinator and he's comfortable, it's it's a rap. And
I think you anytime you get these versatile and Isaiah
sim is as different than the honey badger. But what
what style does he fit? Yeah? To me, you have
to have a defensive coordinator who can utilize him as

(01:13:05):
like this hybrid linebacker. Someone compared him to me as
like a less physical Cam Chancellor. Like if you put
Cam Chancellor on on several defenses, unlike Pete Carroll's, it
might not have worked. And but unlike Isaiah Simmons, he's
not like some home run hitter, which actually is a
good thing in two thousand twenty because could Cam Chancellor
hit like he did? He gets flagged all the time.

(01:13:27):
But I think some of these defensive coordinators did just
believe in, you know, we have a true safety, as
true strong safety is true linebacker. That's not really what
this guy is. Like you let honey badger in your defense,
you just let him cook right, he's in the bottoms
is another example of that. And look at Gus Bradley.
He has a lot of experience working with you know,
hybrid safety type players sometimes defensive coordinators. And maybe that's

(01:13:51):
dying because I don't think you can be like that
anymore because you're playing so many spread offenses. Uh. I
just if he truly a linebackers he's truly a safety.
I don't think he's truly either. He's just somewhere in
the middle, and you get the right coordinator. The problem, though,
is do a lot of times. If that coordinator is
really good, he leaves. You know, he gets a job,
he gets head coach. Last thing, I gotta go run.

(01:14:12):
So I need a real quick answer on this one.
We will have you next week. Give me a player
we talk about quarterbacks, wide receivers. Give me something non
quarterback you think is gonna be a star, even if
it's in a position that we don't normally care about.
You watch tape and you're like, damn, I love this guy.
I'd say Patrick Queen, the linebacker from L s U
just the modern day fly around sideline to sideline can cover.

(01:14:34):
To be a good middle linebacker or just a linebacker
in general, in today's game, you have to be able
to cover running backs. That means you gotta be able
to run, and this guy can. So I think that
guy in like the late teens early twenties is like
boom ten year starter impact player. John Middlecoff joins us
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Sports Wonder Fox Sports Radio. We call it this was
Gone Coward on the Odell Beckham Junior trade rumors, which
were shot down by both sides. Sorry, Cleveland, if we

(01:15:40):
don't believe everything you say, Chief strategy Officer, I've watched
your strategy. It's not great ever last two decades. Not
picking on this guy, but if you want to know
why guys like me your skeptical. And I don't think
oh b J is getting traded to the Vikings because
I trust my sources. But I totally support w f
AN reporting so thing. And let's be honest here, Minnesota

(01:16:02):
said they love Percy Harvin's they wouldn't trade him. They did. Minnesota,
said Stefon Diggs in our future. They lied, they traded him.
The New York Giant said, we won't trade O b J.
They did. And Cleveland is Cleveland is a misinformation factory.
Let me give you some facts about oh b J.
Nobody thinks he's ending his career there, even you guys
in Cleveland. Here's a fact. Oh b J wants to

(01:16:25):
win now. He doesn't want to rebuilding process. Cleveland in
a constant rebuilding process. Fact number three, Oh b J.
It was never a place and I talked to him,
it was never a place. He mentioned. He mentioned the Rams,
he mentioned the forty Niners, he mentioned the Patriots. He's
a Paris, New York, Hollywood guy. He's a bel air

(01:16:47):
guy and more than anything. And this is what we
talked about. Um when those trade rumors came out. It
doesn't mean that he's going to Minnesota. It just means
getting that story out there is a way of telling
the rest of the league. Here's the baseline for somebody
being interested. And we passed on that trade offer. If

(01:17:09):
you want Odell Beckham Jr. A second and a fifth
simply won't do That's what it is. It's a sign
that you can come and buy this house. But the
offer for the house that was made was far too low.
Come up a little bit and we'll talk, say from
Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Tradio. And also when

(01:17:30):
O'Dell wants out, he wants out period. You know, he
starts doing rogue interviews, he stops listening, he stops you know,
he just stops behaving. You know, so we don't know
where Melussa's got his info. It wouldn't be crazy to
think maybe you got the info from O. B J.

(01:17:50):
But the fact is, I know Mark, he does know
guys within the UM. He's the one who reported on
it from w f A n UM and he does
have legit NFL sources. And my guess would be that
Odell Beckham Jr. Can be had for the right offering
his favorite kind of potato chip, favorite flavor of potato chip,

(01:18:12):
not kind of potato chip, flavor of potato chip, promise
salt and vinegar. Yeah, why was there a question? Market Wow?
Because I wasn't sure that salt and vinegar music favorite
flavor of potato chip. Let's go sour cream and on you,
you guys, your breath is just awful of the uh buy,

(01:18:36):
are you gonna rescue me and go barbecue? Yes, barbecue
barbecue is amazing, amazing, and yes, any flavor dorrito is good,
although they don't have the truth coming back with the
old school nacho flavor is pretty amazing. I mean by
this this weekend. Oh, I love some potato chips um.
Sometimes helping people but then making it. You help people,

(01:18:59):
but then you make it worse. Right, it, I think
is happening some in society. It's happening with one NFL quarterback.
We'll tell you. Next to The Doug Gotlip Show, be
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(01:19:21):
You lockdown. It's five o'clock in the East Coast. You're
tipping one back. Welcome in. Ryan. Ryan Music is a
young wine connoisseur music. You can pick out one wine tonight,
reasonable cost less than hundred dollars a bottle? What would
it be? If it's less than a hundred dollars, then
I'd go Camus because Camus comes in around the you

(01:19:43):
can get it probably about eighty dollars a bottle. What
is it? Cabernet cab save, that's right, what a cool
cab save drinkers call it. They just call it a cabernet,
or they called a cab like a cab cab like
um ramas doesn't drink And then, uh, what about you buyer?

(01:20:05):
You can have one beverage tonight? All right, now, it's
five o'clock somewhere, five o'clock in the East coast. Where
would be what would it be? Oh? Nice cold mountain dew.
You love mountain dew. Anything? In fact, you know what?
I'm gonna have one right now right here? Can I
hear the opening of Can I hear the opening? It's
already been open somewhere East coast? Can I just say?

(01:20:28):
I don't drink beer, but I do I like a
whiskey sour. If that whiskey whiskey shadower, why don't you
get an embarreado or a Madori sours sally? Why don't
you whis whiskey sours? All right? Yeah, so I know
there's this thing that I don't. I don't drink normally,
but if I had to have a drink. I like

(01:20:49):
mixed drinks. So you're like, you're like the sorority girl.
Like I don't smoke, but when I when I when
I drink, when I drink, I'll have a when I drink,
I might have a cigarette. Okay, maybe, Like that's classic
sorority girl thing in Oaklama stave Like, I don't smoke,
but I had a couple of drinks at a sorority party.
I did have a cigarette. That's the most disgusting thing
I've ever heard. I'm sorry. Like, and I know there's

(01:21:11):
some listeners out there smoking. Let me tell those of
us in um who don't smoke, that's it's pretty much
the grossest habit there is. I think that's smoking a cigarette. Um,
picking your nose and eating it is the only and
is I'm not sure that's smoking a cigarette. Like if
I have to kiss somebody, one just picked her nose

(01:21:34):
and ate it. The other one smoked a cigarette. The
tough one. It's a tough one. That's a tough one.
I here, right, which one? Oh, all right, hey now now, um,
let's get to this story. Leonard Fournette was on over

(01:21:57):
on first take, and uh, Leonard four, Nette was seemingly
openly opining for Cam Newton to be his quarterback. Cam
went to the Super Bowl. He's a great guy. I've
been knowing Cam for a minute now. Hell of a sentence,
it's gonna let it. I'm just gonna leave that. Let
me just I've been knowing Cam for a minute now,

(01:22:19):
and I told some people that talk to me. It's
no disrespect to him, Guard Minshew. I'm just trying to
be in the best position as a team as we
can to win. That's all that was about, just a
friendly competition because it brings out the best in people.
There's a lot to that. Now, is Cam Newton better

(01:22:41):
than Gardner Minshew? Straight up? Right now? I think so.
A lot of unknowns we don't actually know of. Cam
Newton can consistently throw a football. You're like, what do
you mean, Mmm, I don't know. He played two games
last year and he had shoulder surgery and he's not
throwing the ball right. All these other teams have had
an opportunity and passed. He's a free agent. Even if

(01:23:05):
there was some sort of ridiculous contract demands, there would
be at least a discussion. There was no discussion there
has been no physical there hasn't been any like you know,
I pointed out, if he's if he's Cam Newton of old,
why wouldn't the Washington Redskins to talk to him about
you know, talk to him. You know, the the Chargers

(01:23:30):
are the same same they need a quarterback. He's out there,
have expressed zero interest in desire. But but here's the
bigger thing. When you have there's all different reasons that
you don't bring in a big name quarterback. One of
the biggest is if you have a young guy who
you're trying to figure out how good he is, you

(01:23:51):
can't bring in a former m v P because lots
of guys in the locker room whether or not Kim
Newton is as good as he used to be, even
if it's not those guy Leonard Fournette grew up watching
Cam Newton kick everybody's asking the SEC and then be
the league m VP. His vision of Cam Newton is
five years ago, Cam Newton. That's not Cam Newton, now,

(01:24:17):
you know, I get I get that. For Net is
trying to help a guy that he knows, that he respects,
that he likes. He's been knowing him for a minute.
That's a while something we translate Southern to the rest
of the world. I've been knowing him for a minute,
means we've known each other for I've known each other

(01:24:38):
for a long time. Sometimes you're trying to help somebody
out and you actually have the opposite of the intended
effect because now you're in the league and you're like, well,
for Nett wants him, the Skins passed, the Bills passed,

(01:24:59):
the Chargers passed, and the Jacksonville Jaguars don't want him,
right like, they got fulls contract off the books, so
it's not about how much they're paying a quarterback. Cam
Newton is pop very popular, especially in the south, right
dudes from there, you know, I mean John Milcoff was

(01:25:21):
just like, you don't understand how popular Kim cam Newton is.
Before Steph was staff under armed was trying to build
their football brand around Cam Newton. Right, so he is popular.
He could put and one is Jacksonville has always had
trouble putting people in the seats. There was a discussion
about why don't they bring in Team Tebow. He's really

(01:25:42):
popularly from close to Jacksonville. The same thing could be
said for for Cam camps from Georgia. Jacksonville essentially is
southern Georgia, and I know it's in the state of Florida.
I'm aware my dad used to coach at ju So
this this idea that you're helping Cam Newton, be like,

(01:26:02):
why don't we bring him in when the Jaguars haven't
done that? Again, sends signals to the rest of the league.
Everybody's got to know something sums up with that shoulder.
I don't want any part of that. I don't want
you choose Gardner Minshew over Cam Newton. That doesn't make
any sense if it's Cam Newton, Cam Newton, but what

(01:26:24):
version of Cam Newton do we have? Fair Sometimes when
you try and help people and you do the opposite
of it, it's the same idea as you know, whether
you call it socialism or welfare. Like sometimes there is
a certain extent where you want to help your fellow man, right,
Like nobody wants to see anybody on the street. On

(01:26:46):
the other hand, if you help your fellow man or
you are you teaching them, you know, to get up
off to their stuff and get to work. Now, now
it's really hard. It's just like nobody's going out and
getting a job you don't have a nursing degree. Or
we do this with kids all the time, Like I
don't want my child to fail, Like I have one
of my kids that's really struggling in math, really struggling

(01:27:09):
in math, and I don't want her to have to
redo retake the math class. But if what has learned,
if she doesn't do it, you know, I mean she
was sitting there yesterday, or the teacher this, and then
teacher like, did you take notes? Her teacher will allow
you to have like office hours and now, because nobody's

(01:27:32):
doing a thing, you can do of a zoom meeting
with your teacher whenever you want and just discuss and
write down problems and show it to him and all
this stuff. She's like, yeah, what you know, he's confusing,
And like, listen, I've struggled with math classes in college.
Before you go and you do office hours and they
give you the benefit of the doubt. As of now,
the only person emailing your teacher is your parents. So

(01:27:52):
your parents can't want it more than you want. If
you want the grade, you have to reach out and
you have to do it yourself, and if you don't,
you fail. I'm sorry, you gotta retake the class. That's
the way it works. That's life. You want to help
him out, but you can't do it for him. And
sometimes when you do help him out, you sit there

(01:28:13):
next to him, you know, you start working through the problems.
I mean, it's actually this is the ramash. I'm sure
you've experienced this music. Did you guys like school? I
love school? We did, I did. I loved junior high,
high school, and college. O god, I hated high Yeah.
I wasn't a big fan of school until I got

(01:28:35):
really really late into college and I was in journalism classes.
You start learning how to do TV and radio and
stuff like that. But for the most part didn't like school. Yeah,
late in college when you're doing I was a marketing major.
It was case studies. It was super interesting and I
think now, but if you when you have a kid
and you go back and whether it's history or literature
or math, like, you know, it's kind of fun to

(01:28:57):
relearn things and remember things, and you be the oh, yes, right,
we invert that we do this and um, so, so
what happens is you sit down next to your kid
and you start kind of doing it for him and
you're trying to talk him through it, and then you
pick up the pencil. You're like, no, no no, no, we
do it this way and they're like okay, thanks, and
they just take the answer and they write it down.

(01:29:19):
And that does. You can't sit next to them and
do the test. That's not how it works. They got
to do it themselves. And it's really hard as a
parent to once you remember it, or you learn the
new way of doing it, of not doing it. You know,
I'll do my you gotta you have to do the thing. Well,
I'll do mine and you do yours, and we'll see
how they match up, see if we come out to

(01:29:39):
the right answer. But it's it's almost addicting to where
you're like, I haven't learned anything in so long. Let
me relearn a little bit of math. And the way
you guys do it, you do it, you start writing
it down. You realize you're actually hurting your kid, because
your kids kind of My son has an outstanding teacher,
outstanding teacher, and her thing is, here's what I want
you to do. Nothing, Like what do you mean nothing?

(01:30:00):
I don't want you to do anything. I don't want
you to ask him if they have homework, nothing, But
you have to understand that if they don't do it,
they're gonna come home really sad or really mad because
they didn't do it. You shouldn't have to ask your
kid if they have homework. They you have to learn
it on their own. And you know what, it works.
It works. And that's the thing with for Net here

(01:30:23):
is he's trying to help Cam Newton. Like, look by
throwing out Cam Newton's name, I'm not sure you're helping things.
The reports all week are Jags are not likely not
drafting a quarterback now. Now, maybe they want to give
Gardner Minshew a real shot. Maybe they really like Cam Newton.
Maybe that's ultimately their plan. It's possible, possible, but whatever

(01:30:47):
it is. By you saying I know Cam Newton, I
think Cam Newton good competition, Like, that's not what they
actually want to hear, because that tells, that tells the
coaches like this is not a fair fight, and that
wouldn't be good for Gardner Minshew. That would be a
divided locker room. What if we think we that Gardner
Minshew has more upside whereas Cam Newton had that upsided

(01:31:09):
Now on a downward trajectory. Now you have your star
running back, the only one left from the a f
C champiship game, Like he is the last the Mohicans. Hey,
he's sitting around there going like I don't know any
of these people, and he's the one guy going like,
you know, I kind of like Cam better because I've
been knowing Cam for a minute. Try to help him.

(01:31:32):
Sometimes you don't. Brady and m J. They have something
in common that separates them from everyone else. I'll explain
what it is next. Be sure to catch the live
edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio Whap Doug Otlip Show Fox Sports Radio. I

(01:31:55):
just got the coolest text of my son, so here
here's how he goes. Uh, my son is eleven years old,
and um we always as as if you listen to
the show, you know, I hang out with him a
great deal. I coach him in baseball, not not the
club baseball, but it's regular baseball, like little league at
whatever you call it. It's Bronco. But and then I

(01:32:17):
called coached him in basketball, and I've coached him in
flag football. I might help out in tackle football next
ure if I can talk my way into it. Anyway, Um,
he's great and he's I said this to my daughter
maybe two years ago when we were driving around we
were hanging out where we went to a concert, and
I was like, you're a person now, I kind of
enjoy you as a person. Right They there's a they're

(01:32:40):
a little kid, and he's been the great. Like when
you have a little boy and music, Um, rama's your
son is eight now he is eight years old. I
feel like their babies until like four, at four, they
become little boys, and little boys are fun. They wanted
they'll do anything with their dad and they'll just try whatever,
you know, and boys just different than girls. Girls are

(01:33:02):
fun but in a completely different way. Um. But it's
when when once they're four, now they're they're little boys
in there, then they become people like somehow right before
their teenagers. And I really like him as it as
a person. He sent me sent me there's his favorite
rappers a Little Baby. You're familiar with Little Baby? Okay? Anyway,

(01:33:26):
his new albums out Dad, What Up? What's up? Man?
This album is fire? Listen to it on the way home.
I love that. O great? Is that? What's your favorite song? Uh?
East We started talking about that, and you know, like
when you you're trying to tell him Sunday, We're gonna

(01:33:47):
watch the was the last dance, which is the beginning
of what's a ten part series on the Jordan Era
and the end of the Jordan Era with Chicago Bulls.
And I was I was thinking, I was telling the
story on Colin yesterday. It was yesterday. I don't even
know what day. Today's Friday, Yes, Okay, So yesterday I

(01:34:09):
was on the Colin and I told this story. I
played with le Bradford Smith. Le Bradford Smith was a
first round draft pick combo guards scoring guard out of Louisville,
and le Bradford famously had like thirty one on him
at the Cap Center. And they played back to back
nights when I the Cap Center. He played for the

(01:34:30):
back then it was the Washington Bullets, and they played
the Chicago Bulls next night in Chicago. And so Jordan's
you know, went off the next night and had thirty
one in the first half on le Bradford Smith, right,
and he was muttering and talking to le Bradford and

(01:34:52):
that's the last time he talked trash to me in
the papers, like the Bradford's, Like, what is the matter
with this dude? He told people that he heard le
Bradford said, you know, I aut him tonight, Like he
just basically made up a quote to make up some
sort of motivation for him. And here's the peril, Like
I think when you watch Jordan's in the Last Dance
and be like, man, I forgot not just how freaky

(01:35:12):
athletic he was, but also how cool he was. And
the part that he's kind of a sort of apologized
for is how he found ways to motivate himself. Like
look the the Isaiah Thomas thing, where Isaiah, you know,

(01:35:33):
trying to freeze him out during his first NBA All
Star Game because he was getting so much attention. He
used that to fuel him throughout his career, like he
used that to fuel that hate at anger he If
you remember his Hall of Fame speech, remember we did
his Hall of Famous speech is unforgettable. It was not
very classy. But here's a guy who looked so classy,

(01:35:56):
and yet he flew up the dude, flew up the
dude who beat him out in high school and just
said like, hey, remember when you beat me out? It
was like, how you like me? Now? Why did you
five your high school coach? Wasn't that guy's fault? And
maybe you weren't that good? And had you whatever? Tom
Brady posted on Instagram, um all the quarterbacks that were

(01:36:20):
drafted ahead of him, with the caption twenty years ago. Nope,
haven't forgotten. Look, I think, I think to the I
don't know. I want to say. I don't like the
word average, But to most normal human beings, what motivates
us is to achieve something greater than our parents had,

(01:36:41):
you know, better house, better education, because that's what our
parents want for us, So that's what we want to achieve. Right.
I want a better relationship. I want a better car
than my dad, and I want a better life than
my parents had. I want to be happier. I want
a big of your house. I want more. And sometimes
you're trying to keep up with the Joneses or whatever,
the the greats of all time him. I have to
find ways to motivate themselves when they have all of that.

(01:37:06):
Like Michael George, I'm gonna you guys know this. His
house in Deerfield, Illinois still for sale. They've dropped the
price to like fifteen million. It is a compound. It's
got a beautiful NBA length Jim with uh, a workout
room that he used to work out with the bulls like.
It's got everything you're and honestly, fifteen millions almost a

(01:37:26):
steel Not that anybody has fifteen million around here, but
to have it, plus it was Jordan's house, would be cool.
George doesn't have it, and he doesn't has no effect
that he doesn't live there, he's divorced, no effect on him.
He wrote a check for a hundred sixty eight million
dollars when he got divorced. Nothing like, there's no he's
got reportedly a billionaire billionaire. So what would Jordan have

(01:37:49):
left to motivate him? Tom Brady has all the money
in the world. He married the most famous and financially
successful model in the history of the industry. Plus plus
he's won six Super Bowls. Plus he's earned over two
fifty million dollars in salary alone, not even counting all
that other stuff. It ain't money, it ain't acclaiming in anything.

(01:38:10):
But he still finds a way to be motivated because
twenty years ago, twenty years ago. Dun't be old. Tom
Brady was passed over five times, even by the Patriots
before they drafted him in the sixth round. You gotta
be saying, just these dudes are wired differently than most

(01:38:31):
human beings. And and that's really the interesting part about
Kobe Bryant was he was wired that way like Jordan's
to an almost psychotic level. And people like man I
really worry about Kobe post NBA career, And honestly, Kobe,
the best thing that ever happened was he got hurt
towards kill his tendon when he still had a couple
of years left, and so he's basically spent a year

(01:38:52):
with his kids and trying to figure out what was next,
and then went back to playing and really appreciated everything
when he came back to playing. So I think this
is really telling about people always trying to figure out, like,
what's the secret sauce. Thousand Island is almost always a
secret sauce, isn't it. But in Superstars, it's the constant

(01:39:13):
ability to motivate yourself, whether it's Tom Brady being passed
over twenty years ago by all these teams or Michael
Jordan's still pissed that he got cut his sophomore year
from his varsity team at Laney High School. Be sure
to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show
weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio Whap Doug Otlip

(01:39:35):
Show Fox Sports Radio. Um uh, let's let's welcome in.
He was the first round draft pick of the Washington
Redskins in two thousand seventeen. He's Jonathan Allen. He joins
us on Fox Sports Radio. What do you remember about
the draft the day you were drafted? Man? First of all,
thanks for having me on the show, cause, um, what

(01:39:56):
I remember about the dad guy drafted. So the whole
draft experience, it's super long, and I had mine in Philadelphia,
so every every year is different for guys. But I
just remember how how long the whole weekend was and
how tired I was, And I mean, maybe it wasn't
as bad as I thought, but I just remember being
so anxious just to figure out where I get, where
I gets played, and where I would be living at

(01:40:17):
because up to this point, I've made every decision, chose
where I got to go to college at, and so
this is really the first time that was out of
my hands. So I was really just anxious to just
finally I know where I was gonna be. And then
once I found out, and especially going back home, it's
for me, it's something I can just never fully grasp
because as soon as you get drafted, it's like, all right,

(01:40:37):
what's next. Like, you're on the plane, You're meeting all
these people. Men, you got rookie minicamp coming up, You're nervous,
you want to make a first good impression. You do that,
and then you're getting introduced to the team. So there's
really never a lot of time for you to sit
there and just really take it all in. But man,
it was I can barely remember. And I got engaged
the week before, so it was just a crazy probably
the craziest month of my whole life. That is really

(01:40:58):
really crazy. Um okay, so all these guys, this is
gonna be a completely different experience from any we've ever seen. Right, Like,
these guys there, they're not going to Vegas, They're gonna
be at home. There is no there is no there's
no O T S. You know, no no mini camp
right away, there's no meeting of the team. How does
that change the dynamic do you think for the rookies

(01:41:19):
entering this year's NFL Draft class. I think it changes
it a lot. Um. You know, I've been kind of
thinking about this a lot, and I always I would
just think about it and to myself if I was
in their shoes. The close thing we've ever had to
this was the lockout before the new CBO. I think
the year was twelve, I'm not really sure that year.
So if I was a rookie, I mean, most guys

(01:41:41):
have guys in their agency who's been who've been through that,
and I have many guys who have been through it,
and I would honestly talk to them and talk about
their perspective because maybe not to the extent of this,
but they didn't have Ricky Minicamp and some part of
O t S if I'm correct, So I mean there's
really nothing to really base us off of. But if
I was in their position, I would try to talk

(01:42:01):
to a guy who went through that, and just any
little bit can help you all, especially being a risk
coming in, you're already behind the eight ball and this
puts you further back. So every little bit of knowledge
and information you can take away from a vent who's
been through something similar, is the best you can do.
What what what's it been like recently with with the
coaching change, You've got a whole new regime. Uh. They
come up from Carolina, so there is knowledge of who

(01:42:23):
they are. It's the same, you know, it's NFC guys. Whatever.
What what What has it been like since the coaching
change has made It's been great? And you know, I
met with a coach Rivera a bunch of times just
to really just not talk anything because we would just
get to know each other and fill each other out.
And from everything I've heard from outside sources who played
with them, to guys who are on his team in
Carolina to seeing him in person, I'm I'm super excited.

(01:42:45):
I'm super excited. If you're a fan of the Washington Restkins,
you should be excited too, because this coach, first of all,
is the real deal. Like everything you see is what
you get. How he is when he's interviewing, is what
he's like in the locker room and with the players.
He's a no noz and this guy and he played
football for the eighty five Bears, arguably the best defensive
not the best team to ever play the game. So,

(01:43:06):
I mean he has the credentials, he has a criteria,
and then with the mindset and attitude he's bringing in
the like, we're not gonna put expectations because we could
talk about it all day. You have to go on
the field and do it. But I'm very excited. I'm
very excited optimistic. Um, are you guys doing. Do you
guys do any zoom meetings just as players or face
times or whatever. Is there any scheduled meetups aside from

(01:43:28):
the from the team stuff? Is there anything else going
on that that keeps you guys bonded because you can't
get the facility to work out. Um, before all this started,
I mean the d line all it's in the Mattinas
is wedding and that's the last time I've seen them.
But we're all in a group chest so I try
to talk to him in the group trip every now
and then. But man, this is definitely difference. I mean,

(01:43:49):
I feel like we're all trying to figure out ways
to stay in shape and mentally stay locked in because
when you look at the calendar, we should this should
be one of the busiest times of the year for me.
And it is not. So it's definitely an adjustment. But
in today's day and age, you have to be used
to distractions and just men and it's just I mean,
that's a part of being a pro, you know what
I mean. It's just one of the things you've got
to deal with an overcome. Jonathan Allen joining us. Talented

(01:44:09):
defensive tackle for the Washington Redskins, joining us in the
Dug Out Lip Show on Fox Sports Radio. All Right,
so what are you doing? Right? Are you doing? What's
your There's these speakeasy gyms, you know, guys that are
rehabbing stuff can still get in the facility. Some guys
are like Peloton guys that they go for the Tour
de France. What what do you? What do you? What
are you doing to stay in shape? Luckily I have
someone who has a private gym that I can work

(01:44:30):
out three or four times a week. Um. Really just
trying to take this time to really focus on what
can I what I can do to improve myself as
a player, that's beyond physical mentally, trying to stay in
the game, looking at old film, going over the playbook,
the new play with us coming out, trying to uh
stay on top of my diet because that's gonna be
a big thing. We're not gonna have it as much
time because nobody knows when the season is gonna get

(01:44:52):
back on track. So I'm just trying to say in
the best physical shape as I possibly can. My wife
runs a marathon, so I just started running with her
and she she's murdering me. So mentally that's helped giving
me training too, because that's some self work. Um, it's
really just trying to trying to stay shape and to
do every little thing you can. The worst thing you
want to do is just completely relax and treated like
an extended vacation. Because it's not Jonathan Allen joining us

(01:45:15):
in the Doug Ally Show. People forget we don't people
forget You guys were in first place before Alex got hurt,
Right Alex that that horrific injury. He gets hurt, and
Colt comes in, he gets hurt, and obviously your season
went south and this year was kind of a mess,
and obviously Dwayne came in. You guys want to won
a couple of games late to The quarterback position has
been a big focus. Um, there's been people critical of Dwayne,

(01:45:38):
even within the organization in terms of his work ethic.
What's your relationship been like in trying to guide this
young kid who's also from the area, UH into his
second season. Man, I love Dwayne Haskins. I love everything
about him. I love his attitude, all of his mindset.
I love his confidence that's not cockiness because he's not ignorant.
And I feel like that's a difference between cockiness and
confidence is ignorance and he's not. He knows what he

(01:45:59):
needs to get better at and he has a work
ethic to do it. Now, I'm not gonna make it
seem like he's a hundred cent perfect, because I don't.
I haven't met anyone to this day he was a
hundred percent perfect? Are there times Rocker work harder unred
percent and the same goals for Dwayne. But when I
look at a guy, I look at his desire to
want to be great, not just for himself but for
the team and I And he has that. And as
long as you have that drive in the work ethic

(01:46:20):
to match it, I can I can go to about
it without twenty times out of ten, Jonathan Allen joining
us in the Doug Gotti Show. Your first video game
system was what like, you're a you're a different generation.
So I remember when Nintendo first came out. I didn't
have Clico Vision or some of these other old school ones.
We had. Natari Atari was like Pong, and there was
there was a tank one. I could figure what that

(01:46:41):
was called. What was your first gaming system? The second Dreamcast? Oh?
I like that last second dream favorite game in the
second Dreamcast is what Man? There was so many games.
I used to love this, like Power Rangers. Power Rangers
game that they had. Don't even know the name of it.
I was so young, but that's probably the first game
I can ever remember playing. So what's your jam now?
Right now? I'm a Rainbow succeeds guys, the first person

(01:47:04):
uh tactical six v six shooter on the computer. That's
kind of the game I'm into right now. Yeah, it's interesting.
My son's eleven, so like now of a sudden, and
he's he's a little jock, so he hasn't been a gamer,
but now you know under quarantine you're like, all right,
So we have the we have a three six team,
we have the Xbox one, and he for a long
time he wasn't into shooting games and we kind of
captain way from it. And now there's a there's a

(01:47:25):
battlefield one that's a Star Wars one that he's super into,
and like, I'm kind of into it too, So i'thing, like, man,
maybe we can do a little C O D and
be on the states beyond the same team. Now, now
you're you, You're doing a docuseries on an E sports team,
aren't you. Yes, I am. It's called next Gen and
the sports company I'm partner with it's called Gaming Next.

(01:47:47):
So I mean, it's super cool. It's super excited. You know,
we have the first draft getting there. Um, Like I said,
it's super cool and I'm excited about it because gaming
is my passion and I love it, And I mean,
on us the docu series comes out, you guys to
be able to see. But I feel like it's one
of the only things that regardless of age, gender, race,
is something that first of all, you can be very

(01:48:07):
competitive and and to the point where sorry, hold on,
my dogs are getting loose, get inside of the house. Um,
It's like it's to the point where like it's colleges
are giving scholarships for it, so like before, it's hard
for people to get on board because they view it
is just a hobby. But now it's really starting to
pick up the steam and people are are viewing it

(01:48:27):
as like a legit, like a legitimate way that you
can pursue a career. And so I'm super excited just
to get in the industry and just learn and be
one of the be one of the guys who helped
bring this thing off the ground. What kind of dogs?
I have a golden Doodle in a lab Boxer mixed
golden doodle. That's good hypologetic as well. Who's the who

(01:48:48):
outside of you? Which one of the two is the
alpha outside of me? I don't know. It kind of
depends when when we go on walks, is definitely my
lab boxing mix, But when it's time to eat, my
Golden Doodle dominates. So I don't know. They're they're still
kind of fighting for position right now. They're still young
names Louisa and Bella. Um. You mentioned how big a
game you are. Have you ever um turned down your
wife because or or at least postponed your hanging let's

(01:49:12):
just say, hanging with your wife because you were so
into a game. The great thing I love about my
wife when we first got married. It was kind of
like a juggling act, trying to balance football, her and
video games. Now we've kind of gotten to the point
where she's more understanding of it, and she's always been
great with it, but it was kind of hard to
see why we'll put so much time into it. So

(01:49:32):
we kind of got a schedule that, you know, come
around thirty that's usually the time I get on the
game with my brother and some of my friends. So, yeah,
she's she's definitely a big supporter on that. People don't
understand how good they have it. Like my son, he
we moved from Cannell. We've been and moved to Connecticut,
and we're in California, and like he's, we got friends
in in in Oregon and so they're playing against their

(01:49:53):
friends online. They can talk to him and then they'll FaceTime.
We'll do that the house party at the same time. Right,
Like it used to be when you were gaming, you'd
lock yourself in the room and maybe have one buddy over.
Now you can you can be just as social, only
locked in your own room exactly. And one thing I
always tell my wife is the reason why I love
video games so much is because video games give me

(01:50:14):
that adrenaline and that competitive feeling that I get when
I'm playing on Sundays, and this is one of the
only other things that can get me into that zone.
When I played competitively, I noticed she didn't say Madden.
You don't. You don't not sports gaming always, you know,
always the shooting games and the and things like that.
I try to stay away from sports games when I'm
at the house. I feel like my life is football

(01:50:35):
and it's been my football and football has been my
life ever since I was five. So when I get home,
I really just try to take a mental break from it,
you know what I mean, because I can't. I can't
enjoy football anymore. So like whenever I watch football, I
don't watch it to enjoy it. I watch it and
I'm analytical of it, And honestly, I've lost the joy
of watching football. And it's not a bad thing. It's
really I played defense a line, so whenever I watched game,

(01:50:56):
I'm only looking at the defense a line, don't care
about the score. I'm only analyzing what they're doing. And
it's almost supoint where like it's mentally taxing from at
least for me personally, So I really don't watch too
much football outside of film and stuff like that, just
because when I'm away from the game, I want to
be away from it. I want to be president with
my wife and my dogs and just just recuperate. Middle By. Yeah,

(01:51:16):
it's probably super super super healthy. Um, what are your
thoughts on toa I like to a lot. I don't
know the extent of his injuries, but from everything I've seen,
he looks pretty good. I wish some nothing but the best.
I really do. I like him a lot. But for
as for the Washington Redskins, I love Dayne Haskins and
that's not gonna tray no, no no, no no, I got you,
I got you. Do you want to put you in
the spot that way? I was just I was I

(01:51:37):
was doing with the Alabama thing, and then as soon
as I said it, I thought, I was like, well,
I don't want to. I want to put him in
a in a in a spot. Uh. The the docuseries
just called Next Janet centers Around and the sports follow
around team in Minneapolis at St. Louis Park High School
should be outstanding. To watch, Hey, Jonathan, stay safe with
those with those dogs, have good walks, and to try

(01:51:57):
and keep up either wife. I'm sure she's laughing at
you when you're getting gas running running with her exactly.
It's terrible. We only run a mile and she's murdering me.
So what do you what do you run? The miling?
Probably like eight thirty, but it's not just a flat mile.
We're running upstairs and running down the hill. I have
my dogs with me, and my dogs. She's not a

(01:52:19):
percent trained when it comes to Russell. She's barking at
other dogs. I'm trying to pull on her. So it's
a work in progress for everybody. Real quick, did you
hear this story? Isaac Suppugoa or whatever? He bench pressed
to seventy four times at the combine? If you're seventy
how many times you get up to I did, dude,

(01:52:40):
seventy four? Seventy four? I don't know, like I like, listen,
you're a massive strong man. You're good at what you do.
But I'm just wondering, do you think you do like
one thirty five is forty five on each side? Do
you think you could do that seventy four times? Honestly?
Probably not. Yeah. No reason why I say that is
for him to do seventy four reps that doesn't show

(01:53:00):
as much to the strength as it does with muscle
and dirt. Yes, because isn't heavy, but his ability to
sustain is what is impressed about him doing. Yeah, paint taller,
paint tallerance two gotta be really high right, paint talent
is good for him. I would like to see that
this technique you use on that Yeah, Polynesian. Polynesian news
are wired a little different, man. I want to know.

(01:53:21):
I want no part of that whooping. Hey, Jonathan, stay safe,
Thanks for joining us. No appreciate alright, Jonathan Allen joining
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sounds good. My daughter last night, she's making my kids
got the comb of the things that used to have
a um like an after school specials. They would teach

(01:54:03):
you how to make things like popsicles where you'd you'd
have the ice tray and you put little sticks in it. Right,
we got We got on like a maker of that
where you can make your own popsicles. And she's so excited, like, Dad,
I'll make you a Arnold Palmer popsicle. I was like,
or you can make me an Arnold Palmer. She's like,
why not? Why don't you want an a popsicle? I go, well,
there's a chance if you make me an armor Palmer,

(01:54:24):
I will drink all of it. There's roughly a fifty
chance if you make me a popsicle version of an
arm Palmer, I will eat it. You have no very,
very sound I'd rather have the liquid form than the
melting solid form. Sham's Training of the Athletic and Stadium

(01:54:46):
just reported that Adam Silver says that the board of
governors in the NBA are an agreement that safety is paramount.
I'm taking this from Sham's tweet. Quote. We are not
in any position to make any decisions, and it's unclear
when we will be end quote. There's a status on
the NBA. Let me say nothing while saying something but
actually saying nothing. Yes, the NBA players Association agreed to that.

(01:55:11):
We agree that the commissioner just said nothing, but it
was an official nothing. Thank you shams. The Athletic reports
at Alabama quarterback to a tongue of il scored a
thirteen on the Wonderlock test, the worst of any player
at the quarterback position. Joe Burrow thirty four, Jordan Love
twenty seven. Justin Herbert and I saw your tweet, Doug,
I was Nate Stanley scored a forty three nets Ah alphabatis,

(01:55:43):
those moves, they know how to party. Y I tweeted,
I said that I quote retweeted that he was tri
lamb material giants. Gentleman said they would very seriously entertain
offers to trade down from number four overall four. I
love Dave. Dave Gentleman, Right, we got some analytics folks. Yeah,

(01:56:05):
we'll look at trade down. We got come on, and
we got computer folks. We are the computer folks. I
love Dave Gentleman. Yep. Just days after unvailing the new uniforms,
Browns Executive VP, one video of Dave Gentleman getting online
with Zoom. Hey, can we get some of these computer
folks in here? Sorry, Dave, you're gonna have to learn
do this by yourself right. Run of the draft is Monday,

(01:56:27):
but Brown's executive vice president owner J. W. Johnson told
the team's official website that they may add orange pants
to their uniform combination. Remember we talked about this earlier
in the week. A lot of fans wanting the orange pants,
so it's something They said that they would approach Nike
with the orange bridges. Yesterday, we had the breaking news

(01:56:47):
when we were wrapping up von Miller testing positive for
COVID nineteen. He was on NBC's Today Show, Today Go Away,
and my assistant she said, Um, why don't you just
go get tested? You know there's no harm to getting tested. Um,
I went down the street when you got tested, and
two days later they got My doctor called me and
said that I had a positive result for COVID night teen,

(01:57:11):
and I celebrated, Yes, positive result, like no, positive is negative,
it's bad. Negative is good? Positive bad, thousand points of light, recession,
bad recovery good. Now. The headline was that that was
pretty good, needs you and I thought that was a
terrible impression. We the the headline is that Taylor Swift

(01:57:34):
won't be opening, Sofi stadium in l A. In late July.
Because of the concerns about COVID nineteen, Taylor Swift canceled
her entire tour for so it's not necessarily a stadium
miss you in l A. It's Taylor Swift saying we're
just not going to tour in they'll get back after it.
She wrote a song about the tour that she could

(01:57:54):
have had that she didn't have. That's not press it is. Yeah,
they did a little documentary behind the scenes, did they
Did they do a story about our dad Swift Trucking
bought up all our albums that first to make her popular.
That's dad. It's noter dad thought it was. That's urban
urban legend, urban legend. It's an urban legend. Did people

(01:58:15):
not get their kidneys cut out in New Orleans and
end up? That's urban legend too. All Right, we're gonna
watch the Jordan's Special Report back Rick Bucker Monday and
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